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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, metal's my religion, and yeah, it's my dope. Standing in the thunder on stage in the pouring metal rain. What a feeling, baby, the lights are exploding.

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And I don't mean my gun. Metal's my religion. Yeah, it's my turn. They saved me from the politics, baby. Metal's my religion.

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Hey, this is Buke from the Metal Hits Podcast. And it is August 20th. And it's Gwarbecue 2016 day. The other members of the pod have elected to sit out this year and attend Black Sabbath tomorrow.

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But barbecue has become a can't-miss event for me. So I have brought unofficial members in the background supporting the pod on the street team in a sense. Stephanie, my wife. Steph, how are you? I'm doing good. Now that we got out of the traffic on 95. Yeah, we left Maryland at a... Now, quickly, people don't care about traffic.

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We left Maryland at 8:30 or so. We're cruising down, cruising down and hit the massive traffic on 95. So a quick couple hour trip has turned into four hours or so. It's 11:30 now. We'll probably get there about 12. Missed some of the opening bands. Missed ramming speed. But this year's lineup is a little bit... you know, GWAR has always been a band that appeals to punk people, appeals to metalheads.

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This year's bill is a little bit light on the metal bands with Ramming Speed, I Hate God, Phil Anselmo is filling in for I Hate God today. Lamb of God is the headliners and GWAR.

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There's other acts. Dillinger Escape Plan. Against Me. Lag Wagon. August Burns Red. So there's, you know, other, of course. So, forget where I was saying. Apologize. The batteries died. Unprofessional of me. But, again, like I was saying before,

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This year's barbecue. It's a little light on the metal bands. This is a metal podcast. Of course, I'm a metal head. I'm just making a fun day of it because like we've said the previous years, barbecue, if you've never made it down to Richmond and Haddad to Lake, the past couple years they have done the pre-barbecue, before barbecue,

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Where they had the summer slaughter bands and tour come through and play. And that happened last night. And of course that was all metal bands. But I didn't attend that. But it's a fun day of events at the lake. You know tons of different vendors. Tattoo artists. You know skate park. You know three different stages going of constant music.

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Great Food, the Guar Beer. So this for me is a can't miss event. I love covering it. I rave about it every year. So personally my highlights, what I'm looking forward to most this year with three metal bands, unfortunately traffic being what it was like I mentioned we're not going to see ramming speed.

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That's my GPS. Thank you Waze. But uh... of course Gwar. Yeah Gwar just... I love every single second they're on stage. They're so fun. And of course Lamb of God. They're one of my favorite bands. The energy that they play with on stage every time.

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Very few bands can match that in my opinion. So it's gonna be cool to see them again. I don't believe I've seen them outside before. So this is gonna be cool to see them outside on a big stage.

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What are you excited for? Or your thoughts on this? You, you know, don't really go to concerts. You know, you help us out the website on the back end doing things. But what are you excited for? What are you thinking? I'm excited to see GWAR finally. Yeah. That's my main reason for coming. Yeah. Stephanie, hope to maybe get her up close so she can, you know, experience, you know, maybe a little GWAR blood. Get a little on her. But, yeah.

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So, the name of God, are you excited for? Sure. I'm trying. It's the microphone in my face that's weird. The fuzzy microphone. But most importantly, I'm excited for a day with my wife. So, I'm trying to get us some interviews. I have a couple possibly lined up.

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I reached out to the guys in I Hate God reached out to Ramming Speed and I reached out to GWAR and a couple other bands and Lamb of God so hopefully you'll be hearing some interviews after this I'll talk to you throughout the day see ya

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by the one and only Blothar of Guar. Blothar, what's up today, Butler? That's a weird-looking microphone. You know, we refer to it as a cougar bush. It looks like you're holding a voodoo doll of Don King. You know what? That's what it will be known as from this day forth. Okay. Real quick, it's our third year covering the Guar-B-Q ever since you came aboard. How's everything been? Well, I mean, it's been absolutely miserable, you know, day in and day out.

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We're always training to keep in top physical condition, as you can tell. You're a fine specimen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we're holding out hope that one day they'll put real wrestling back in the Olympics. That's what we want. Actually, it's never been in the Olympics, but it should be. Who are you? Were you a Bret Hart man? Shawn Michaels? Were you old school Andre the Giant? You know, I hate the old, like the new wrestlers. They're all small. They used to all be fat.

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Like us, healthy men. Yeah, I don't like these. You can't have a dude in there that's like, that guy's not a wrestler. Get your abs out of here. Get your good looks out of here. Yeah, I mean, they, you know. We want you to come in the ring and scare children. Yeah, we want Ivan Koloff. That's what we want. Black Jack Mulligan. Hey, well, really quick, you guys are going on tour the next couple months, making a bunch of cities. Yeah, yeah, we're going to, well, we're going out for it. It's just a short run here in September.

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and I guess maybe some shows, I don't know if we're doing some in October. Yeah, we're doing, we always do something around Halloween. So we got a few runs around there, but it's really not very many shows we're doing because we're recording a record. So if you hear of Gwark showing up near you, make sure you go because you're not going to have a chance until after the new record comes out to see the band again because we got to go in and record, do all that stuff.

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Yeah. Well, I'll let you get the rest of the band. Maybe when I talk to you in four years, wrestling, real wrestling will be in the games. Hey, this is Buke with the Metal Heads Podcast, and I'm joined by the gentleman from August Burns Red. Gentlemen, say who you are. What you guys doing in the band? My name's Matt. I play drums. My name's Jake, and I'm the lead vocalist. Gentlemen, you guys just played. I had known of you guys and heard you guys for years, but this is my first time seeing you guys live. Jake and Matt. Fuck.

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What a set you guys just put on. Thanks, man. And that's why now I see people talk so much about you guys' live shows. You guys here for the Gwarbecue. You guys been fans of Gwar throughout the years? Have you had a chance to see Gwar in the past? Is this your guys' first time? Right. I was introduced to Gwar when I was 19 years old from a buddy that I worked with. And, yeah, I remember going to a Gwar concert a long, long, long time ago and just getting dressed.

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with red blood.

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That's why today for my first show I was picking what shirt I'm going to wear.

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Because I'm like, this may get ruined.

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Maybe.

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Yeah, it's going to get...

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I mean, yeah, that's what my buddy said.

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He's like, when you go, just don't wear a shirt that you like.

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And surprisingly, your guy shows aren't like that.

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Right, yeah.

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No, I think we're a little more toned back.

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But, you know, this is our first time here.

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And it was a cool experience.

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I think that the crowd is a little bit different than our normal crowd. So, you know, we got a chance to win some hearts over. You guys definitely did mine. Yeah, thank you, man. So it was a good fest. We enjoyed it. It was a good time. You said that it wasn't your normal, is that because maybe the other bands you guys were playing with or the fan base, maybe a younger crowd? Yeah, I think, you know, for our genre of music, there's different, you know, like we would never tour with Gwar. It just doesn't really make sense.

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The fact that we're here is awesome because we get to branch from our general demographic. So I think that some of the bands here would be fitting with us and some of them wouldn't be. So like I said, it's a little bit of a mixed crowd. So it's a great opportunity to knock on some doors and show everybody who we are. So tell us about this. You guys, past couple months, next couple months moving forward. You guys are going on the road. New album. What do you guys got? We are going on the road in about three weeks.

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on a US tour.

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Who are you guys with?

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It's a headline tour with Silent Planet Era and Make Them Suffer.

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Oh, wow.

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Okay.

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So it's a good lineup.

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We're doing, it's about a month.

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It's about a month long.

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Hits a lot of B markets.

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So if you haven't seen us in a while, because we've been playing a lot of the big cities,

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check out the tour dates, augustbrinsred.com, and you'll be able to find out if we're playing,

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you know, close by and come out.

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It's a good, you know, affordable ticket price.

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We're playing a long set.

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And we're excited. We're excited to be on the road. It's going to be the last time for the year we're playing in the States. So don't miss out. Now, I was looking on Spotify. You guys, not lying here, you guys catalog. I was your early catalog. I know well. But looking on Spotify, did you guys do something special with this new album, release a couple different versions of it? Yeah, we did an instrumental version of it.

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It's the music. Not that singing or screaming isn't music. But it's a layer that we took off the cake. Literally anyone can scream in a microphone. Anyone can do it, including me, but it does not sound good when I do it. It sounds really good when he does. It's a layer that we took off and now everything else is there and you can hear it for what it is. Is that something you guys went into saying, hey, let's just try it? That's something we've all known.

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We could do for a while just with how intricate our music is, but it just worked out with, I think, having Fearless behind it and having some new opportunities there where they were also interested in doing it. So it's just a matter of it being the right time to pursue that opportunity. Now, in the metal world, you know, there are some instrumental metal bands like Russian Circles just released a new album. Do you guys listen to those instrumental metal bands? Is Animals as Lears instrumental? They'd be considered instrumental, I believe. So, yeah.

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Yeah, I've listened to a couple songs. I actually prefer instrumental metal to screaming. Sometimes. I like Lamb of God because I like Randy's vocals, but a lot of times I just like to hear the music. Yeah. Oh, cool. I tell you, you guys, it was interesting having you guys on the bill here because I will admit a lot of metalheads go into it and they're like, those guys are playing. But when they don't realize you guys are no different than any other metal band. You guys are just as heavy as the bands.

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that we listen to.

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We just wear Puff Pops and Polos.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But, you know, I have to ask you.

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I've mentioned it many times on the podcast.

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I'm 33.

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The guys I do my podcast with are in their 40s.

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I say that because Killswitch Engage is one of my favorite bands.

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But I get crap for that to some pure metal fans.

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They're like, oh, what do you allure in listening to that?

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Because guys aren't wearing all black.

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They don't look pretty like some people would say.

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Is that something that you guys have had to overcome through the years? Yeah, we just don't care. That's the way to be. It's like, you know, we're artists and it's not necessarily our fault that we can't fit everybody's mold, you know, like, so kind of like go screw off kind of thing. You know what I mean? Like, we're musicians and we're artists and that's all we are. So wherever we're, you know, positioned as far as in a genre or a sub-genre, then that's where we're at. But if it was up to us, we wouldn't,

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We're not trying to fit anybody's mold or say, "Hey, look at us," and prove anything to anybody. We're happy where we are. We've been doing this for 10 years. We know what we're doing. We enjoy it, and we have a great, loyal fan base. You know what? A lot of the bands that we listen to and we praise, you guys are a lot more successful than those bands are. But I'm sure you guys learned at a young age, not everybody's gonna like you guys. Even when you're in a high school band and stuff, everyone's gonna have bad stuff to say.

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everybody so just screw them you know I mean that's I kind of thought that that was what metal was like I thought metal was the minority in in in high school or college and you know it's funny like these metalhead guys you know probably get picked on in college and then they go into the metal scene look at another picking on us it's like oh okay cool dude like you know you you were bullied and now you're the bullies so congratulations you know really quick I see you wearing that Philly set I'm a DC sports fan are you a Philly sports fan okay so I'm

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I'm a big Eagles fan. I support PA because we're all from PA. I'm a hockey fan first and foremost. Are you a hockey fan? Hold on a second. I'm a Caps fan. Now we've changed gears. Let's really get into it now. Your farm team is my local team. We have to go soon, but I'm just going to say this. My buddy Isaac Stone from Columbia, South Carolina is where I was born and raised basically. He taught me to love the Bruins. I'm a Boston Bruins fan first and foremost. I love Chara.

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And then I would say, you know, after everything else, it's PA. It's Eagles and, you know, but yeah. I'm a Skins fan, so what can I really say about my team? You got to admit, the NFC East is a fucking wreck, right? It's so bomb. Gentlemen, it's a pleasure. You guys meet some fans now. So the blood and guts have dried. We're dusty. And barbecue 2016.

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has come to an end. Back in the car heading home. I had a blast throughout the whole day. Stephanie, your first barbecue. What are your thoughts? Next year's tip is to drink more water because I almost died of heat exhaustion or stroke. One of the two. I had to go sit in the air conditioner for a half hour. I'm just not used to being outside.

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these crazy heavy metal shows. These people are nuts. No wonder they drink so much. They don't feel the burn of their skin from the sun. I thought it was really fun. Matt kind of tricked me. Or buke, I guess. Tricked me. He said we can go up in three songs. We'll take pictures of guar and then we'll leave and we won't get dirty. Well, first thing, the thing comes out and it's Obama, I think. And they cut off Obama's head.

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And then the blood, fake blood or whatever, spilled out, got me right in my eye. Literally. And the security guard was so sweet. He was like, wipe your face, wipe your face. And I just couldn't believe it. And I was like, Matt, you died. And of course, you know, he was laughing it up. But once I got over the initial shock of the blood and the gore, it wasn't too bad. I really had fun. And then they played my favorite song last. So that was nice.

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Yeah, you definitely got a full dose. I was like George. I was like George in the sun. You got a full dose of the barbecue experience. So I had a chance to sit down. I talked to the nice guys from August Burns Red. I talked, which

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Their set was awesome.

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Not a lot of people in the metal world where people talk so much shit about what people like and stuff like that.

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They've had a lot of stuff said about them.

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But seeing them and hearing them, Stephanie and I are walked away fans.

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Yeah, definitely.

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They were one of my favorites.

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That guar.

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Aren't they from the Virginia area? Um, the first man. August Burns Red, they're from Pennsylvania. Oh, what? Yeah, it's been a couple hours. Yeah. Um, and then I interviewed Lothar from GWAR. That was, you know, five minutes of random conversation, but a blast as always, an honor to speak to him and those guys. And I spoke to

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That was it. That's actually the interviews that I did. I had more lined up, but

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you know, if a big festival like this when people are getting pulled all different ways,

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none of the other ones fell into place. But

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no hard feelings at all because it's just how it goes.

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Phil Anselmo with I Hate God was pretty awesome. He brought his

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He screams and does more of the harder stuff to them. It was really cool seeing him play those I Hate God songs. Of course, GWAR was awesome. I enjoy every second of their set. The setup this year with the Olympics going on,

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They had a galactic battle for the belt. They were fighting to see who would win the belt. So all the characters came out. They were fighting over the belt. That was pretty fun to watch. They played the standard set list that they do. And after that, Lamb of God closed it down.

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new songs from their new album. Played some of the classics, but a lot of new stuff. Randy didn't sing clean. I think that's what that track, Overlord. He didn't do any of his clean singing out here like he did last tour I saw him with, but Lamb of God brought their normal energy level that they do to a show. And we left.

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Right before the last song was kicking off. And we beat the crowd. We found a nice home. And some nice homeowners who had parking literally right down the street. That we kind of pulled into and parked. So that worked out nice. Because this year the parking, it's almost like they had it a half mile away or something. Yeah, they had it a half mile away down the road.

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other side of the street where guar is like the entrance and they had shuttle buses which was nice but who wants to sit in line and wait for a bunch of junk people to get on a bus and go across the road and stuff and then um i learned that the parking lot where you parked last year is staff parking only this year oh and that's why i guess because it was easier for the staff to park there and just walk up okay but the guy was really nice we parked at his house we saw his puppies and dogs and he was really cool he said he listened to metal too so what did

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What did you think of the whole barbecue experience? Like the vendors, the people for your first metal show? The vendors were really cool and like down to earth. I thought it would be more like, you know, like NASCAR like vendors that were like rigid, I guess. But I had no idea. I did get a new shirt. A new Ring Dog Rescue shirt? Yeah, Ring Dog Rescue. I literally wore the one today from last year's, I think. And I got a new one. It's silver. Not like you care, but.

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on it. So it's a nice one. And

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Steph and I being big animal lovers and rescuers of animals. We got one to support their awesome charity for rescuing animals and dogs. So Steph did her part. The Odorous

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Ale. Sorry Steph you were going to say something? I thought the food was really good too.

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They had a bunch of food trucks and vendors.

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Yeah, they had a bunch of food trucks and they had barbecue catering and corn on the cob and they had Mr. Softie ice cream, which was nostalgic. It was really nice. I had Cajun french fries and boneless fried chicken. That was amazing. Then they had mixed drinks for the people who don't want beer, which is me. Even that was a little rough, a little strong for me. Guar even makes their own tequila, was it? Yeah, some of them. Vodka. Vodka.

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And that was really good. And then the vendors were cool. The setup was nice. I thought the pool was really cool. I'll have to bring my bathing suit for next year. And they had like a rope swing and a trampoline. And then they had like where you can swim. And then they had like on the lake, the other side of the pool, they had little boats that you could take out. Of course, at your own risk. But it was cute. Stephanie got to observe her first drunk casualty.

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Oh yeah. Of a heavy metal show. Oh my god. It was crazy. So this guy comes running over and talks to the cops that are in front of us. And he's like you gotta go help the girl. You gotta go help the girl. Well apparently she had one too many adult beverages and landed face first or got smacked or something. But she had a bloody nose all over her face. And of course you know she's drunk so she didn't want to go. And they finally convinced her. And then as we were leaving she was outside you know drunk walking up and down the street. And the officer was trying to tell her to get out of the street.

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It's not a guar show until somebody gets bloody, right? Exactly. And this traffic is awful. Like, why is there traffic on 95? It is 8 fucking o'clock on a fucking Saturday night. Some people are listening to us from different countries and locations, babe. They don't know what this is. Just understand, people. Understand, it's a three-lane highway and we're going about 25 miles an hour and then slamming on your brakes for about 20 miles. It's ridiculous.

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Like everybody should be at home in their jammies listening to metal music and relaxing. But nope they want to be on this fucking highway. End rant. So GORBECU 2016 was a success. I want to thank. Oh yes. Good job for reminding me Steph. Samantha Mac. The what do you say MC.

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Co-host of events. Introduces the bands and everything like that. Yeah, Samantha was a sweetheart again. It was a pleasure talking to her. We talked to her and her husband, her boyfriend. Forgive me. I think it's boyfriend. I know they're not married, but they might as well be married. But we had a blast talking to them. We probably spent 20-30 minutes talking to them. Spent some time talking to

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Sean the Butcher from SiriusXM Liquid Metal. He said he'd come on and join us in the future. So it was a lot of fun. Thank you John Freeman for allowing us to come cover the guar-beque. Thank you to Guar for putting on the guar-beque. So I'm sure if you haven't heard them already you'll hear my interviews. And Stephanie I'll let you

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Take us out. I can't wait to go to Gwar next year and get more bloody. The end.

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Hi, my name is John. And my balls appreciate it. Speaking of which, have you been watching the Olympics? Did you see the diver? His name was Steel Johnson. I was like, hell yeah, it is. Are you serious? Yeah, his name was Steel Johnson. Did he win a gold, silver, or bronze? I don't know if he won anything the night that I was watching. His name is Steel Johnson. He wins. He wins. No matter what. You cannot make fun of that name. He's like, I got to Steel Johnson, you.

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There has to be a porn star with that name already. There is no... Well, you know, the first thing, because I'm a metalhead, the first thing I thought of was, because it's spelled steel with an E at the end, so I thought, typo negative, Peter Steele. But then once I made my way to his last name, I was like, Johnson, Steele Johnson, that's fucking awesome! When I grew up, my friends, one of my next door neighbor friends was named Tommy Butts. His dad's name was Richard Butts. He literally went

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by Dick. His name is Dick Butts. I'm like, how do you choose to go by the name of Dick if your last name is Butts? You just don't do that. But Steele Johnson, that's cool. That is very cool. I knew a guy once named Dick Gunn. I'm not kidding. He was one of the nicest guys I've ever met in my life. I knew this guy who's the craziest dude I ever met. His name was, hi, my name is John. Anyway, so we are currently at Tin Cannon Brewing in Gainesville, Virginia,

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We're sitting

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apparently just over

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yonder from

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Jiffy Lube Live.

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Nissan Pavilion.

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Nissan Pavilion or whatever it's

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called this week.

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And we're getting ready to go see Black

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Sabbath's The End Tour.

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The End.

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This is the end.

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Oh, wrong man.

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That's the doors.

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Yes, the end.

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We hope.

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Yeah, if they focus on this one.

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Well, technically I think they did, didn't they?

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Didn't they really?

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It wasn't supposed to end in New York and it added more dates after that. Which I had tickets for and thought was the end. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it was it was at Madison Square Garden. Yeah, I thought that too. And I was like, oh, I got to go to New York. Wait, so John, did you buy tickets for the last show ever? And now it's not the last show ever? We thought that and apparently now Phoenix is. Congratulations, Arizona. You got the end. Now you're saying that would be the last American show because I thought they were last American. I thought they were ending in Birmingham. Yeah, that's appropriate.

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L.A with you. Truth be told, he was at the wedding that I was at, yes. And he was like three feet over from me. Was this the photographer wedding? Yes, it was. My good friend Ann was getting married and he was there. And there were a bunch of other rock stars there too, weren't there? A couple. Do you want a name drop? I don't like to do it, but I will. Will just shot beer out of his mouth. And Will just spit beer out of my mouth. Or you still didn't come out your nose.

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Sure, I'll name drop. Whatever. Slash was there. John Payne for all you prog rockers. Yeah, Geezer was there. Michael Ackerfeldt was there. And there was somebody else. I can't remember. And I got called Eddie Trunk, so it was a good day. So it's safe to say we should be polishing your balls because you're royalty yourself now. Again with the balls, huh? Yeah. No. I was just a willing participant at a wedding. They happened to be there. And I don't even know if I talked to anyone.

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Well, I talked to one person. I don't know if I talked to the other guy. So, whatever. They were there. They were just regular guests. Yeah. John told me this story, I don't know, a few months ago, I think. And he really didn't, you know, just so he's not name dropping, I had to drag that out of him because he was kind of like, you know, I don't really like to, you know, brag about this or anything. And so I was asking, and I'm like, that's like the coolest story ever. So that's why I made you do that. There was somebody else there. I can't remember who it was. I'm going to feel stupid for not remembering. Didn't you say Dio was there?

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was supposed to be there and he couldn't make it obviously. Oh, because this was when he was sick. Yes, this happened after he had gotten sick, so he couldn't, he was on, well, he had passed away already at that point, so. Okay. George, have you ever been to a heavy metal wedding? No, no. I don't know that many heavy metal people. I currently know more heavy metal people than I probably ever have. You know, I had, you know, some heavy metal friends back in Michigan. What's up, Josh? But other than Josh,

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They've all kind of pussed out and gone, you know, alternative or whatever these days. It was my friend Anne in California. So I would not miss that for the world, even if there were no rock stars there. I would have still gone. So there you go. So what are we drinking, fellas? I am drinking Humble Admiration, which is apparently an homage to Stone's Arrogant Bastard. Their humble admiration of Arrogant Bastard, which I like.

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So I thought I'd give that a shot. What are you drinking? I'm drinking the rusted pipe black IPA, which is pretty, pretty darn good. Yeah, I had some of that too. We before we got these full glasses, we tried samplers and I had a little bit of that, which I thought it was pretty good. What are you drinking, John? I think it's called twin cannons. It's their double IPA. Right on. That's all I have to say about that. Little J reference there. Yes. So yeah, so we're drinking some beers and getting ready to go over to Sabbath.

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what is likely to be at least my final opportunity to see Black Sabbath. And I guess Rival Sons are opening the show. I don't know if we're going to make it in there for them or not. Maybe not. Maybe not. I mean, is Rival, I've never heard of them or heard any of their music. I mean, is it worth checking out at all? I don't know. I mean, when their first album came out, I reviewed it. And I was like, it's not bad. I remember,

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It reminded me of Zeppelin or something. A very retro rock kind of thing. But I know they've had at least two or three or four more albums since then. And I have not listened to any of those. So I honestly don't know what they sound like now. So it's not like... So there's some retro bands out there today that we all know and love. Like newer retro bands. I can think of a few off the top of my head like Trouble, which is not really retro because they started with...

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way back in the day. Ghost. Yeah, like Ghost or Uncle Ass and the Deadbeats or some of these other... Graveyard would be perfect. They probably fit more with Graveyard because technically they're not metal at all. They're just a hard rock band. I saw them in New York for the Other End version of the U.S. tour. And yeah, it's just a rock band. I mean, whatever. I wasn't really interested only because I was there to see Sabbath in Madison Square Garden.

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I just wasn't interested. Fair enough. Okay. I'm just trying to figure out whether we should actually get in there and check them out. I wouldn't mind seeing them, but, you know. We've got a little time yet. There is beer inside the venue, right? Yeah. Cheap, bad, expensive. I mean, expensive, cheap beer. You want to get in to get your $10 Coors Light? Is that what you're saying? Yeah! Not. No, I want to pay $12 for Bud Light Lime or something. Or $15 for that Jack Daniels drink and another $5.

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For an additional shot in there. And then to have your wife spill three quarters of it. I didn't know John was your wife. Yeah. He's my, you know, I have people have like work wives. He's my podcast wife. Oh, okay. I'm so jaded. I can't believe I'm not that. Well, technically, technically I have a podcast wife harem and you're all my bitches. I've never been so proud to be called a bitch. All right.

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So, you know, I got a question for you guys, not to cut you off. Are you excited for tonight? Seriously? I am. Yeah, yeah, of course. I have to say it's one of those things like, and I was saying this earlier off mic, but is this really the end? Because... Everybody has done that. Ozzy's done it. Right. So, it's sort of like, if this is truly the end, then I'm excited to say that I saw Sabbath on their last final tour ever. If they're going to come out,

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I did look at the set list. I'm glad that it's all old stuff. I saw every song that they played in the last show a couple days ago. It's Fairies, Weir, Boots, Paranoies, Iron Man. It's all the ones you want to hear. It's nothing off the new album, which I'm happy about. I wasn't a big fan of the new album. It was good. I liked it, but give me the old stuff. Just give it to me. Right in the face.

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All over the, yeah. You know, in this case, I would give them a pass if three years from now they came back and said they were doing another tour because that would mean that Tony Iommi is still with us. Yes. Yeah, so maybe that's not such a bad idea, you know, but yeah. I'm excited just because I was joking earlier. I first saw them 34 years ago on the Mob Rules Tour, so this is kind of nostalgic for me in a sense, even though it was Dio back then. I get that. It's still kind of fun to see them again because I didn't

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I didn't get to see this version of the band until post-reunion. What, 98 was reunion, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, so I've seen them, what, four or five times post-reunion, but... I have to take a little bit of umbrage what you just said. The tonation, the intonation, the incantation, in the incantation in your voice, whatever. Is he like, oh, but it was just Dio back then. But Bob Rules is a phenomenal album. No, no, I was... I think he was saying that because this is the Aussie version. It wasn't the... Oh, fuck,

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rules is awesome man heaven and hell awesome i love all that stuff i was just referring to the fact that this tour obviously dan is with ozzy not with dio okay singers alone ozzy or dio uh ozzy but i the d i love the dio years in sabbath i love i i mean just as a singer not as the singer for sabbath dio oh yeah as singer dio for the band both yeah okay yeah i have to go dio too but i do love ozzy i'm not knocking ozzy but if you think about go back to the

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The Original Albums, Black Sabbath, so classic. Hall of Fame, Desert Island. Did I say that out loud? Yeah, I mean, Ozzy's is awesome, but Dio is a much better vocalist than Ozzy Osbourne. You weren't on the Desert Island list. Can you rattle off five albums right now, Desert Island Discs? Man, Desert Island Discs. Well, I guess I have to say Black Sabbath because I just said that. Man. Everyone picked a Sabbath album. Yeah.

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Let me think. There's got to be a Slayer one in there. So I'm going to choose Season of the Abyss. I will pick Cannibal Corpse in there. Cannibal Corpse, death. Cannibal, Kill. My favorite by far Cannibal Corpse album. Death Leprosy, absolutely. One more. Is that four or three? That's four. Yeah, yeah. Man. I have to pick something Doom.

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Probably Paul Bear Foundations of Burden. Right on. I was thinking maybe some Billy Joel. The Stranger. I do like The Stranger. I love me some Billy Joel. What, not the bridge? I like all Billy Joel. Don't even fuck with Billy Joel. You know, I just realized we're sitting outside having this conversation. It is not raining like it's supposed to be. It's not raining and it's not hot. Yeah, I mean, it's a little humid, but it's not bad.

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This is probably our best day, what, in two weeks? Maybe? In the last three months? No, I mean, like, well, the last week and a half has been, what, 95 plus every day, hasn't it? So, yeah, it's actually a breeze. It's only 80-something. Yeah. So, you know, what, do you have a particular song that you're looking forward to hearing? Two, because I've already seen this tour. After Forever and Hand of Doom. Nice. Big time.

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Boots because it is my daughter Evelyn loves that song. I literally have videos of my son William and my daughter Evelyn dancing around in their pajamas late at night to Ferriswear Boots. I've grown to love that song so much and I was second-handed doom because I first, weirdly enough, I first really started to love that song when I heard Slayer do the cover of it. Went back and heard the original. The original is phenomenal. I just love that song. It has the word doom in it and it's all about

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Heroin, obviously. Yeah. Oh, that reminds me of Snowblind. Yeah, Snowblind. There's a beer named after that. Star Hill, Snowblind, Brewhead's Column. I think it was the first Brewhead's Column, maybe. Yeah, I think so. Too bad the song's not about beer. No, it's about beer. Oh, it's about beer. Cocaine! But it's a great song, you know, despite that. Are they playing Sweetly? They're not. No. No, I'm with John on After Forever. Wait, do you want another? Not right now. Wait, hold on. Wait.

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I'm kind of surprised that they're playing that. I mean, Master of Reality was also one of my early albums. And I never really heard anybody talk about that album. I always thought it was like the red-headed stepchild of the Black Sabbath albums because nobody ever talked about it. Which is crazy because from start to finish, it is one of my favorite albums. But anyway, so I always thought After Forever was a really cool song. And I never heard anybody talk about that song.

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And I think it was in the setlist last time I saw them too, but I'm like, right on. I think I've seen them, like I said, four or five times. It's been in a setlist since post-reunion in 98. I think it's been in the setlist almost every single time, which I found bizarre. I love it because it's one of my favorite songs by them. And that's always the song I go to when people, back in the, they don't do it so much anymore, obviously, but back in the 80s, everybody was, Ozzy Osbourne is Satan and he bites bats and people rip up puppy dogs and whatever. And I go, have you listened to After Forever? It's... You can be religious.

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He's pretty religious. Yeah, it's definitely not satanic, that's for sure. And if you don't know anything about Sabbath or not that much, Geezer Butler wrote most of those lyrics in those early years, if not all those years. Just saying. Yeah. But other things I really want to see, you know, rumor has it that their final song is Paranoid. I love that song. That's a shock. I never think they played Paranoid last. Yeah. Sarcasm. Sarcasm. Okay. You had me there.

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And probably NIB, Nib, Nativity in Black, whatever you want to call it. I got a question for you guys. Give me a couple songs you wish they would have played or you would want to hear them play that they probably wouldn't. Top of the list, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. 100% in agreement on that. Without question. Yep, ditto that. By the way, I just got a text from the great Dr. Lang. Dr. Lang. Dr. Lang. Dr.

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She texted me somewhat foolishly like, are you going to the Sabbath show tonight? I'm like, yes. She goes, are you, I really like the opening act. Like I listened to that band. Rival Sons, right on. Rival Sons. And I just texted her like, yes. We just tore them up. We might not see them. No, we, I have to see them now. We have to go. The doctor's orders. Doctor's orders. Doctor's orders. Thanks, thanks to Dr. Lange. I have to buy a fucking $12 Michelob. No, the last, the last time I was here, I think sometimes they have

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Star Hill and stuff. No, they had Goose Island when I was here last time. Well, because it's Budweiser. Sorry, that was Meriwether, not Japan. No, they'll have something. They'll have something that's drinkable. If it's literally Budweiser, I'll... Actually, I feel like last time I was here, that was pretty much it. I got a song for you that I would love to hear tonight. They won't never play it. Tomorrow's Dream would be fucking awesome. Maybe. Do you like it?

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We were like, is that the new Metallica song you're listening to? Yeah. Do you like it? Yes. I don't know. This is the first time I've heard it. It's much better than anything they've put out in the last 10 years. I'm with you there. Might be longer than 10 years. Yeah. 1991? 1990? So that would be the last 26 years? Yes. So since

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We've had this conversation off air, but on air, I like it. My only issue, and you knew this was coming, there'd be an issue, but it's really from a technical standpoint. I don't like the way the drums are mixed for the kicks. That's all. It's a drummer thing. I don't like how they're up front. It kind of drown out the bass work itself. That's all. Other than that, I love everything about it. It's cool. I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to debating this album with everybody. That'll be fun.

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So my first impression, I did preorder it. And I had some reservations about preordering. But based off the first song, I did preorder it. At least knowing that it was closer to Death Magnetic than Load or Reload or Load on Your Face or whatever. Load on your album cover? Yeah. Closer to their 80s stuff, I think. More. Closer. Getting closer. At least it's fast. It's thrash.

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No ooh yes. John and I were talking about this earlier before you got here. And yeah, I was like, you know, the production's better because they got a lot of crap for Death Magnetic because it was, you know, the mix was pushed, you know, to the limit. So it's just brick walled. And so it would distort a lot on people's speakers and they got a lot of shit for that. So now I just saw an article talking about look at all the dynamics in this. You know, there's a lot of peaks and valleys in the, in the,

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the waveform for this because, you know, I'm guessing they took a lot of shit for that. So they took that to heart. Also, yeah, there's no ooh yeah, yeahs in there because James is taking a lot of shit for that. Yeah, so my criticism of the song is it sounds very formulaic to stuff from Death Magnetic that was thrashing and fast. There's no bass in it whatsoever. That's not true. I don't agree with that. I 100% agree with that. I feel like why would you have True Hue in your band?

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and not have bass. That's all. It's very up front to me. Maybe you're just not hearing it. No, you know what's up front to me? Drums. Lars York's ego is up front to me. First thing, after you said that, I went back and started it again and I was like, there's the bass right there. It's just, it's very in front. Yeah, you guys too. Yeah, we're going there too. Have a good night. You too. But I just feel like, I don't know. They're just not that,

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Anger in it anymore. And I do. I am that guy. We're so fucked. Shit out of luck. I know, but like, it just like, it seems, it seems superficial to me. Like, I'm, I'm, I am that guy who wants to hear Master of Puppets again. I want Ride the Lightning again. But you're just not going to get that. I'll take, I know, but I'll take Master, Justice for All at this point. You would take that a thousand times because that production was better though. That's the pain thing right there. It's not that the album was bad. It's the production.

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S.T. Anger. No, no, that is the worst. St. Anguish. St. Anguish, oh, we gotta start using that. I did pre-order the album based on that one song. At least it reminded me of something. Death Magnetic was sort of a resurgence that there was like 40% of the album that I could say, yeah, I'll listen to that song again. I like it. I like Death Magnetic pretty much just about front to back.

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I mean you like a lot of things front to back. I'm easy. Yeah. Not not. Yeah. Don't shoot more. I was just thinking of something I could say. I just not going to just not going to say something about Georgia stubby fingers. Wow. You put some bot into this.

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How dare you, sir? Shame. But, so, you know. Ding, ding. Like, probably just about everybody, when I saw that the song was available, I was, like, dreading hitting the play button because I was, like, don't suck, don't suck, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And right out of the gate, I was, like, I like this. Like I said, I think the production's a lot better. It's really fast. This is two albums in a row now, though. So that's a good thing. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait.

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Wait, wait, wait. It's one album, one song. Yes. In a row. Yes. But based on the strength of that song, I too pre-ordered it. I gave up a kidney to get the triple vinyl box set. And I do have to lodge a small complaint here that... Your back hurts? No, I'm paying like $70, $80 for a triple vinyl. Iron Maiden, I paid $19.99... I think I paid less than $19.99 for a triple vinyl. Wait, wait. Triple vinyl of the new album? The new Metallica?

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Because the new album is a double album. It costs like $15 on iTunes. That's a lot for digital. It was like $50 something plus $18 to ship it. You're getting fucked on the shipping. That's why. I was like, good lord. You gotta pay for the Lars Zarr collection. Come on. You can pay for Bob Rock. You probably owe him money still. I think I get a digital MP3 of the album. But I don't get a flat copy. You can buy. In the option

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on their site, you could buy it digitally. And you had the option to get flack for like $8 more. Oh, fuck that. And I'm like, you know, yeah, they need to learn something from Bandcamp here. You know what, though? But there's those people out there that will pay that. And I'm one of them. Well, yeah. Because there's these people who don't know what they sounded like back in 1983 and 84. I do. Yeah, but that's the thing is, you know, there's a lot of people, and there's a lot of young people,

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that talk shit about Metallica. And there's a lot of people our age that do too because they know Kill Em All Metallica and they don't like where they are. Dave Mustay Metallica? Yeah. I know Jay hasn't been a big fan since Puppets really. And Justice Fraud for me. And honestly for me the ones I don't like, I don't like St. Anger obviously. I don't like Reload. I like some stuff offload.

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I'm pretty okay with everything I like I don't I like the black album and my reasoning here is this in 1986 I was born again Christian Metallica when Master of Puppets came out I was like this is the greatest band in the world and so well they probably were the greatest band in the world when that album came out yes but so they became you know my but they still they weren't that big though believe it or

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I know. I know. That's just crazy. They got big with Injustice for All because MTV. Right. And one. Yeah. So, you know, they became the be all end all of heavy metal for me at that time. And so I have a great deal of feelings and nostalgia built up in this band. You don't have feelings. Don't lie. I know. I don't have any feelings. I'm a heartless, cruel mistress. No, I get what you're saying. That's me with Sabbath. Right. And so. Because they were my early gateway band. And so I'm.

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No matter what, no matter what they do, I'm always going to cheer for them and hope for the best. Even if I don't like what they do, I'm always going to be hope springing eternal going, come on, come on, you can do this. And so I'm the first to jump up and go, yes, when I hear a song like this that I think is pretty awesome. Yes. I almost have the complete opposite position because they've sucked for so long and they sold out. They destroyed me and like tore my heart out. I've told this story a million times.

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podcast about being down at Paris Island and Marine Corps Boot Camp and buying that album and listening to it and being so disappointed that part of me just wishes that they would just go away so I could just remember the early albums rather than putting out mediocre stuff that sort of harkens back. I just want them to be, I just want them to do Master of Puppets again. Yeah, well, and I know they never will. And I know they're trying to get back to the thrashier roots.

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I accidentally touched my pinky to his forearm holding the microphone out and so I just went with it and started stroking his arm. You're stroking me. Do you guys need me to leave? Do you mind giving us a couple minutes? No, you're going to be in the middle. John Sandwich. That's a big middle. Trust me. Hey man, when I go to Subway sometimes I pay for the extra meat. I wasn't referring to the extra meat.

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Anyway, you were saying. Sometimes I pay extra for the footlong sub. I give it what I got. I give it what I got. You take what you can get. Anyway, that's my two cents. All right. Well, I guess I'm holding the microphone here, so I'm not finishing my beer. I guess we should do that and get headed over, right? Yeah, man. It's the end. Wait, wait. What time does the... Metal Chris from dcheavymetal.com posted the set times and I retweeted it. 7.30, I think. Yeah, but it's jiffy.

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Man, you know this. What time is it? This place sucks. So Rival Suns is 740, so we literally have an hour. We have time for another beer. Up to you guys. We have an hour before they go on. But we have to... We're way in the back of the brewery, literally sitting outside in the parking lot. In the parking lot. In the loading zone. Yeah, we're in the loading zone. It's very strange. You get to walk through... You said reload. Nah, I did not say reload, though. The memory remains, though. They're back on TV, by the way.

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Are they? New episodes? I'll take it what I can get, man. So when you said that, I was like, you said load. I am Corn Hoyle! I am Corn Hoyle! Yeah, we're crazy. Yeah, so it is kind of weird just sitting out back here where there's the UPS loading truck over there and like some sort of big like, you know, those machines with the shovels on there, what do you call them? Front loader or

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A Bobcat is a Bobcat yeah and then and then here we are sitting here at these wrought ironed tables drinking beer at a 30 degree angle here you have to address this so some like old some old withered lady literally in flip-flops who looked like she just like came off like a meth high disheveled walked into the brewery through the back door and then within two seconds walked right back out and I'm pretty sure they probably refused her service because

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because she looks like...

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She's going to that UPS truck.

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Oh my god, please don't say she's driving that truck.

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You're cold, man. You're cold.

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I'm going to go ahead and say yes.

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So that now it makes total sense.

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She probably is a meth head because she drives a...

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Anyway.

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She'd probably hear you.

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That's cold.

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You that mean, John?

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Maybe.

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It depends on the person.

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Son.

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Son.

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Bring us more beer.

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Please.

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Well, we've got to fill some gaps here while we're waiting for beer. Let's talk about Dave Lombardo and Sioux Salad Tendencies. Okay, that has nothing to do with Black Sabbath. Okay. Another round of beers? Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'll wait for the moment. I still have too much left. I'm a wuss. Actually, just give me another humble admiration and I'll get to it. I'll have one of those. Two humbles?

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Thank you, sir.

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All right.

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Keep it easy.

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So who's your favorite member of Black Sabbath?

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Being a former sort of guitar player?

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I mean, Tony.

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Tony's been the backbone of Black Sabbath the entire time.

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Yeah.

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I have a great respect for Geezer, but I am a Tony fan.

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Yeah.

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Geezer and Tony are the reason I'm here.

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I got nothing against Ozzy. But we've seen him a million times. I've seen him a million times, whether it's himself or with the band. And so my main thing is to see Iommi and Geezer one last time. Now, here's something I was thinking about earlier. Oh, wait, one thing with your dress. Who's drumming on this tour? I don't know his name. It doesn't matter because his name isn't Bill Ward. Yeah. Is it the Rage guy? Or is it somebody else? That's who it was last time. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. That's who was on the album.

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The Studio.

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It's the other guy that's been touring with him.

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Look, I mean, everyone's like, oh, Bill Warren or No Sabbath.

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Okay, if that's the case, who wrote all the lyrics and who wrote all the music?

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Iommi and Geezer.

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That's the way I look at it personally.

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Just me.

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Nothing against Bill Warren.

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I wish he was here.

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He's not.

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Okay, but it would be better if he was here.

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It would be better if it was the original, original Birmingham line.

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But are you going to say you don't want to see Iommi one last time?

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The fucking creator of all these riffs from all the bands we listen to.

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The creator of heavy metal.

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For the most part, yeah. Are you going to say, fuck, I'm not going to go see him because Bill Ward's not there? No disrespect to Bill Ward. So let me ask you this then. If Iomi was not in the band, would you go see it? Negative. Negative. That's the point. Yes. Yes. I'm here to see him and Geezer Butler who wrote a lot of their lyrics. Yeah. And wrote some cool riffs along the way too. Now, I was griping at John yesterday when I saw him about the set list. I was like, you know, there's some songs on there that are not.

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Dirty Woman is one that comes to mind. I don't really care. There's a reason for it, though. Because you get the porn on the big screen. We like the titties, yes. But also because that's when Iomi does a solo. And I was like, rat salad. And he's like, that's the drum solo. Okay, but no Bill Ward. You don't need it. Who cares about the drum solo from the guy that nobody cares about? I agree. And that's to give Ozzy a pee break. Or a break to do something else. Geritol? As Rush used to say, we're going to take a 15-minute Geritol break. Thanks, man.

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Are you going to the show? I wish. Are you stuck here? I am. It's crazy too because it's literally on the other side of those trees. Well you could probably just come out here and listen. We're from the Metalheads podcast so we're covering this. We're famous. We're legends. In our own minds. Thanks man. We appreciate it. Raleigh can't get out of here fast enough. He's like yeah. I wish I could go to the show but I saw Ozzy at Ozfest.

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Cool. Thanks, man. Thanks, man. Cheers. Audible. Audible cheers. Somebody spilled beer out. I'm still spitting it out of your mouth. I never spit my beer out, unlike some people around here. Okay, let's move on to this one. I'm behind. I'm holding the mic and talking too much. I gotta tell you guys, I don't know, maybe the whole Aussie thing has ruined it for everybody. For me, this is like a maiden weekend.

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For metal. Just because I've been growing up with these guys my whole life. I still remember getting... I've said this before on the podcast. Getting what? Heaven and Hell. I remember buying that and getting that vinyl the first time. This has been a long process. It sucks that Sharon Osbourne ruined it for everybody. I don't even blame Ozzy. I blame her. That's part of it when we were saying total respect for Gizr, total respect for Tony. I actually don't have a lot of respect for Ozzy anymore.

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I really don't. And part of it is the overexposure, the dumb Osborne TV show, the just his last few songs. Since probably either No More Tears or No Wrestler Wicked, it's all sucked. It still had a couple good songs on it, I thought. It was a solid album. I liked Osmosis okay. Yeah, it had a couple good songs, but that's when it all went to pot. It's almost pop.

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It's almost pop music at this point. So... Let me hear you scream. That's horrible. No, but I was actually about to say that one was not as bad as some of the other stuff I heard. That's so formulaic. It's like this new Metallica song. Like, yeah, you know, okay, I kind of like it because it's not nearly as horrific as some of the other stuff they put out. The lesser of many other evils. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, that... I'm not going to say anything. All right. I don't like the lesser of two evil concept, but whatever.

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The Lesser of Two Weevils. Now that I like. Everyone likes Weevils. I don't know. I got a soft spot for Ozzy though too because when I had the Heaven and Hell album I also had Blizzard of Oz. You know which you look back on it now that should have never happened. Blizzard of Oz or Diver of Mad Men because he was a fucking mess back then. So yeah I agree the whole show thing is kind of annoying but at the same time. It was like what 15 years ago? He has a new show.

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The Sun, which is actually kind of funny. I wanted to see that. It's him and Jack traveling around or something. And his son saying, you're really an idiot, aren't you? Which is, yeah, whatever. I heard Ozzy got emotional going back to the Alamo. The Alamo, yeah. Did he pay again? I don't know. I haven't seen it. We're so desensitized to all this stuff now. I mean, whatever. It's funny because, you know, back in the 80s, Ozzy was Satan, man. You know, he was the poster child for Satanism.

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Everybody fell for it. Yeah. And, you know, he's probably the least satanic person in the world. Yeah. He's a lovable loser, perhaps. But the devil? Come on. But, yeah, I mean, I remember reading all these articles. Of course, the PMRC went after everything. PMRC is the greatest thing that ever happened to the medal. Yes. Greatest. Dee Snider said it perfectly. He's like, slap it on, baby. You just sold me how many more records? Strap it on, baby. Is that what you meant? Maybe. Yeah.

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Do you guys remember the PMRC? Dude, I remember every minute. Timber Gore, baby! Yeah, I wrote an article for the school paper about him. Oh no, Angelia, come over. Do you like Sabbath? Come in, the podcast. She can't talk now. It's not going to pick you up unless you're right on it. She's not on it. Oh yeah, so anyway, the PMRC, yeah. I was a huge Twisted Sister fan, so when D went to the Senate and was talking

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about censorship and stuff. That's when I, I mean, I was already a huge fan, but I fell in love with that man then. I was like, he's our, he's our white knight. He's our hero. Well, do you guys remember who the three, the Holy Trinity were for that? Yeah, it was, uh, no, no, no, no, no. On our side, it was Dee Snider, Frank Zappa, and John Denver. John Denver? Because he had that, it was Rocky Mountain High, yeah. Yes, and, but, Dee Snider, with all respect for what he did,

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He did a lot. He always likes to say, nobody thought I would come out here. I thought I was a dope. But Frank Zappa is the one who slayed them. Frank Zappa was a genius. He just destroyed them when he sat there before the committee. And he did too. But Frank was so articulate because he was waiting for that moment of his life, it seemed like, almost. Even though he never planned on it, obviously. And I'm not the biggest Zappa fan. I enjoy it. But I really loved when he was sitting there just crushing it. Watch out where those huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow. Because he was already doing that.

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his music years before that you know so my father was a huge frank zappa fan and i remember to listen a lot of frank zappa about the spilled my beer yeah and he's flicking it all in and around my face right now um your head and shoulders and necks um yeah mental heads podcast yeah hey more beer um we're gonna have an episode alone just on this city i know it's kind of going on for a while but um yeah my

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My dad was a big huge Frank Zappa fan and I grew up listening to Frank Zappa. One of my favorite mega songs ever is Hook and Mouth which is all about the PMRC and it's just it's great. F is for fighting, R is for red. Ancestors blood in battle they shed. E we elect them, E we eject them in the land of the free and the home of the brave. I love those fucking early mega death albums so much. I really do. And what's weird is I thought, no. I didn't even get to finish. Sorry. M they cover my grave with manure.

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D is for dying, O, your overture. M is for manure. This is something I spell freedom to me. As long as there's a PMRC or something. I loved that song so much. What's funny is So Far So Good So What seemed like it got panned by it. I love that album. It's a great album. You got 502. You got the Anarchy in the UK cover. Mary Jane.

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I'll give Dave this. They covered all the Sex Pistols stuff great. I mean, they did Problems off of the... The Diodex. Not Diodex. That was a song. Yeah. Hidden Treasures, yeah. Their version of Problems I thought was awesome. I mean, I'm not a Sex Pistols fan, but I love that song by the Sex Pistols. I enjoy it, so... I like the pistols. Oi. Oi. Wait, insert J. That's a bad accent, John. Oi, what are you talking about? That's my Monty Python. Oi. You know, he's making the oi.

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Get back that rabbit's dynamite! Confuza cat! For those of us who remember the show on late night television. Oh man. As we digress. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more. That's Jay, I think. I don't know. More beer. Where is Jay? California. All right, well, are we gonna...

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or do we want to uh we have any more sabbath related things sabbath sabbath do you want to talk about i mean i think i feel like we already talked about our favorite sabbath albums i think we're gonna drink some beers and go to sabbath yep we'll we'll uh we'll catch up with you again afterwards and give our post-mortem on the show yes post-mortem i do love the fact that we use that post-mortem yeah it's from raining blood don't you know yeah you're raining in blood rather

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Sky. Bleed in its heart out. Oh, by the way, have you guys heard Hellbringer? Yeah. Sounds a lot like early Slayer. Right on. Oh, and two other things I want to mention. I sent this out in an email. I'm sure you guys already know. I haven't listened yet, but I want to. Thank you. The band Eerie. Yep, I listened to that. They're kind of cool. I only got a couple songs in. It's weird because the album cover looks like a total 80s death metal cover. It's like a troglodyte album. Yeah, exactly. It does. Will likes the bands.

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that cover Bigfoot. Yes. Oh, my son has the greatest shirt. He's got that classic photo of, you know, photo in air quotes of Bigfoot. And it says, hide and seek world champion. My son has, I've been trying, I've been dying to take a picture of this shirt. And he doesn't know what it means. No, no, absolutely not. But I want to, I want to send it to Traglodyte in Twitter. Like, dude, is this your shirt? It's like, are you selling these shirts to kids at Target? Oh man, that makes me think of the shirt I bought via,

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which is the famous photo but the back hand is a fucking beer glass and he's chugging through and i wanted to have that for death fest and it came and it just it didn't look good on me don't you hate that they say it didn't fit oh it fit if you're if you're a simpsons fan you remember the episode where homer starts wearing the moomo i may be big but i ain't that big yeah i hate that you know it's like he i get shirts

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And like I ordered a Death Sound of Perseverance shirt. It was like gold Death logo. It looked sweet on the page. And then I got it and I put it on. I'm like, that doesn't look good. Kind of like the shirt I gave Will today. The Gojira shirt. I was like, this is a fucking headband on me. Well, you know, it's like I get like three X's because I'm a big boy. But sometimes they just don't hang right. It's like where the art is or something. And they just look wrong. The neck stretches and then you look like the fat guy homeless guy.

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the street, you know? Yeah, it's just like, nope, not wearing that. I've probably got more shirts that I will not wear like that than I do that I will wear. Sorry, I'm making gestures. This is the weirdest weather day ever in Virginia. Yeah, now it's super bright and sunny. Which is typical Virginia weather. Yeah, it just broke out. It's Florida weather today. Now we need sunglasses. I'm probably getting sunburned. I'm moving out here for like an hour. I was hoping it would be raining at like 840 when the show started. For various reasons why, but without giving away the show. Yes. There's still some dark clouds.

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Yeah.

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You know what.

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The only thing I will say is Blood Incantation.

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New death metal band.

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Dude, it's good.

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It's a little more old school.

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Yeah, I know.

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But that's why I love it.

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I mean, it sounds like stuff I grew up listening to.

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I've been reading some reviews.

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People love it.

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No, I think Decimal gave it a nine.

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Did it really?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Oh, nice.

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And I was listening to it before that.

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Before that.

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Yeah.

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Before fucking Decimal.

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He was listening to them when they weren't even around yet.

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Oh, by the way.

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There's a lot of by the ways in this episode. Yeah. By the way. Like a five minute. This is a five. Hi, my name's Jay. But I'm not going to talk anymore about that. I'm not going to talk anymore about that. But I really would like it and I think it's great. So Decimal Magazine may or may not be planning a huge heavy metal and beer festival in Philly in April. Is that something that you can legally say? I don't know.

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It may or may not be. There might be an event, maybe, is what you're saying? Yes. Are you like, I shouldn't have said that? No, no. Well, I don't know, but I'm super excited, and there's a very good chance that Atlas Brew Works will be part of it. Right. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. Say no more. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. We are working on it, and we've been invited. Right. Excuse me. When is it?

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The End of April in Philly. So instead of say Maryland Death Fest we could go to Philly. What's coming in April? There's a show coming that I'm going to in April. Amorphous. You're going to Amorphous with us. Amorphous and Swallow the Sun. We're going to that. Where is it? In Baltimore. Well we'll go to Philly too. Soundstage isn't it? Yeah you're going. Okay. Yeah. Swallow the Sun. Gotta see that. We're going. We're going. Yeah. All right. That's all I got. Yeah. That's all you got. All right. Cheers. Cheers one more time.

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Sabbath!

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Woohoo! Sabbath!

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Alright, what's he after?

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Not their fucking heads off!

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Not exactly Black Sabbath, but it'll do.

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Yeah.

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So, here we are post-Sabbath the end.

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And, uh, why don't we start with trying to get to the venue?

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Hmm.

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Let's start with who's here.

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No, this is all part of the last one. It's still George and John and Will. Okay. Hey. Hello. Hello. Hello. My name is John. Hi, my name is John. And last we... Oh, yes. John, just... We're on university. He just orgasms. He just had a cargasm. Because we just spent about three minutes eventually moving out of the parking lot after spending almost the whole entire show trying to get into the parking lot. Yeah, so last we left you, we were leaving the...

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The Tin Cannon. And we were literally, what, two blocks from the venue? It was, I think, roughly a total of a mile. A whole drive. Yeah. One mile. And as usual, Jiffy Lube Live in Bristow, Virginia is a flaming piece of shit. Yes. And getting that last mile took, let's see, at least an hour. I think it was an hour just to get to the parking lot. One mile. Yeah.

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walk like a mile it seemed like just to get to the seats yeah so we literally we completely missed rival sons didn't even hear them they weren't even playing when we were trying to walk out i'm sorry dr lang we didn't we didn't we tried we really tried and there was some a-hole who decided to have another round of beers at tin cannon and that's what killed it who was that anyway that was me well but hold on i don't think that counts anymore because we got out of the parking lot literally

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Five minutes when the car started up. Yeah. Maybe six minutes. Maybe six. I don't know. So it worked out in the end, I guess. Yeah. So we managed to walk in like we were getting to show our tickets at the... Not to get in, but you show them your tickets so you can go down the aisle and want to get to. It was when we heard the crowd go crazy and they started playing Black Sabbath.

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as we were walking in and going to the seats. So, at least we didn't miss any of that. No, we got to actually see the whole show. So, that was good. And I don't know about you guys, but I thought it was a really good show. You know, the last time I saw them, Ozzy sounded like shit. And, frankly, I thought he sounded really good. Probably one of the best I've heard him sing. I mean... He was better than he has been, yes. He was in key, which, last time I saw him, he was way off. He was in key, and I actually remember...

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Remember the lyrics? That's always a plus. There's a reason for that, though. Yeah, he's got the teleprompter. Yeah, you saw he had more monitors in front of him than the whole band combined. You know, that's what you gotta do. I did not notice them, but that's a good point. They're probably sitting in front of these speaker monitors. So, and I only know that because when I saw them at Madison Square Garden, we were on stage, meaning up on the side, looking straight down the stage, and you could see the monitors right there in front of them. Okay. So that's the only reason I know. And, you know, it's like, he wasn't perfect. No. You know, but he,

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He was in key, but sometimes he would be getting to the end of a line and he would fall off a little short of hitting the high note or whatever. Yeah. And he only said, we love you maybe 40 times tonight. Yeah. Which was not much. Yeah. I would actually have to say, he probably may have said it six or seven times, which is about 40 short of what he usually says. Exactly. And he didn't do what I like to call the leapfrog, which he used to do the leapfrog a lot. He'd bend over and he'd hop.

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Like a freaking frog or something. And that was really. He did this weird thing at one point where he was like. Just looked like he was standing over. Like bending over. He was like doing like a mummy thing. Like the arms out. Yeah. Yeah. Like it looked like he was trying to touch his toes. Like a fat man who couldn't. It was very bizarre. Yeah. And then there was the Pee Wee Herman dance. Yeah. That was weird. You mentioned that to me. I was like. Oh my god. He really is. It was like. It was fairies wear boots. And it was like. You know. The riff. And at the end of the riff he'd go like.

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And he'd throw his hands out and thrust his crotch out. It was like, ee! It was like the little Pee Wee Herman dance. That was kind of funny. So at least, you know, he's always got some kind of dance. My daughter, Evelyn, would be proud. She loves that song. And you filmed some of it for her. I did. So I can't wait. Tomorrow morning I will show her the video that I did for the Fairies or Boots. Excellent. That was a good time, though. Yeah. I mean, it seemed kind of short.

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given how long we were in the car. It was an hour and a half set roughly. And you know, since we didn't catch any openers or anything, it was like in and out. And they started early for a headline. It was like 840. Most headliners probably start at 930 and then end at 11. They started at 840 and finished at like 20 after 10 or so. I actually have a responsible job now, so I'm good with that. Oh yeah, me too. I've got an extra hour drive home.

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So it's still going to be late, but it's not going to be 2 o'clock in the morning, hopefully. Which is nice. And at 4 a.m., like Death Fest was. Yeah. Oh, fuck. That sucked. And I got home before. You dropped me off first. I was just like, oh, my God. Is the sun coming up yet? So any disappointments from tonight? Anything that you really wanted to hear them play that they didn't? And we all knew the set list. Yeah, we knew it. So it was like we said before, you know, Sabbath blow.

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Or something like Symptom of the Universe. The setlist being only two songs post-Master Reality is kind of a bummer, but whatever. They kind of did their early years greatest hits kind of thing. Before we were talking and I was bitching about Rat Salad and stuff. The drum solo had to be at least ten minutes long. It was way longer than it needed to be.

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two more songs or even one long song instead of the stupid drum solo, which is just an antiquated thing that nobody does anymore except the old time bands. And that really was just their bathroom break and changing diapers, I guess. Yeah. I guess what the drum solo tonight, what makes it irrelevant, even though it was very good and I'm not a drummer. I don't know. It sounded really good. It's not billboard. So like, why are we listening to this other guy do a gigantic drum solo for 10 minutes where I'd

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I'd rather have another Sabbath song. Yeah, no offense to him, but he's, you know. Yeah, and it's like, he's a great drummer, clearly. He knows his stuff. He's drumming for Black Sabbath. I don't even know his name. Tommy something. Yeah, whatever. Like, does a great job, but I would rather hear something of the universe in that time frame. I'd rather them just have two sets and just take ten minutes and everyone take a break, turn the lights on for a second, and if you're not going to play a song. Yeah, for the end, you'd think they would

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It would have really gone out all out like a two hour plus show. But still, you know, it was good for what it was. Oh, yeah. So those are the bitches. What are the highlights? What are the accolades? Tony Iommi. Tony Iommi, man. His solo during Dirty Women, it was just, yeah, I realize. On fire. He's not technically as great as some of these young guys today, but it doesn't matter. He just, for him, that was awesome.

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He's obviously a phenomenal guitar player. A technically bad guitar player. His thumb is way over the bridge. It's one thing I always look at. That is technically a bad technique. Technically a bad technique. Does that make any sense? He has bad technique. He probably could be a much better guitar player. Most of the great guitar players have bad technique. I know. Because they're doing their own thing. Yeah. Their own thang.

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Did you literally just say thang? Ass of dad. R.M.N. Asses. Speaking of which, you know, nah, I'm not going there. What? You talk about my ass, it's okay. It's alright. I'll tell you later. I saw you eyeing up John's ass. I mean, it's cool. You know, one thing I was thinking about during that drum solo was, you know, I'm sure

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Each of these, at least, Ozzy, Tony, and Geezer have their own, you know, rooms. What the fuck do you call them? Dressing rooms. Which, by default, I guess, would give the drummer his own. Unless he, like, has to go with the opening band or something. But I was curious about that. I was like, you know, he's the hired gun. How much does he actually hang out with the band? You know, is he, like, he shows up for rehearsal and then goes home?

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and then shows up for the show and they just go out on stage and they like never talk to him or does he like hang out and you know come over for barbecues and you know stuff like that we also have to wonder how much is Ozzy, Geezer, and Tony hanging out at this point there's a stretch limo right next to us that could be them yeah John why don't you rent one of those for us I mean come on why don't you follow it man see where it's going yeah I don't know I mean really that's that's probably just a bunch of drunk people that took a limo

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And Ozzy's going to look out the window. No, no! We love you all! We love you all! Yeah. Yeah. Well. It's funny, you know, he's up there clapping and stuff. It looks like he's, like, you know, enjoying watching his grandchildren do something funny. He's like, oh, bully! Yeah. That's the one thing about him. He doesn't move around anymore on stage. And yet he moves around a lot more than Geezer and Tony. Oh, yeah. That is what my one takeaway is.

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don't move at all. And Ozzy, I think I saw him run back and forth on the stage twice. That's it. Geezer and Naomi do this real slow walk. They just kind of walk over here and you're like, oh, when did he end up over there? Yeah. You don't really notice it because they don't run around the stage at all. It's like magic. Yeah. They're too busy playing history. Yeah. You know, like during the Paranoid, the encore, I got a little sad. I'm like this morbid,

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that I've never had at a show before, knowing I'm probably never going to see any of these guys in the flesh again. I mean, you know, Ozzy's not going to retire, but I'm probably not going to go see him either. Right. So what is the status between Sharon and Ozzy? Are they getting divorced? Are they separated? No, they're back together. They're back together. She does not want to see the gravy train leave. Probably. Okay. Yeah, who knows? I want to talk about the ridiculous price

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is a beer. There's one thing to be said that not a single one of us had a beer actually when we got to the venue because... Not that we really had time to either. Well, we didn't have time, but there was a... Basically, there was a line that was zero that you could have walked in and you grabbed your own craft beer out of the cooler. Craft type... There's some air quotes going on here. There was one large bottle that was like $40. So they had goose...

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Island Sophie, Goose Island owned by Budweiser. You got a large bottle of Sophie, it's a Belgian pale ale, for $42 fucking dollars. And you can get a bottle of another Budweiser product. You can get... They should be ashamed of themselves for that. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. So you can get Devil's Backbone Vienna Lager for $11 for a 12-ounce bottle. Shame on them. And yeah, I pointed out to Will, there's a sign that says, Craft Beer, $16.

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I'm like that is just fucking robbery. So um

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thank you Team Cannon we got our fill of beer

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there and yeah it was just it was it was outrageous it was more outrageous than I remember I think you could usually get like

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a big like 16 or 24 ounce draft beer usually Star Hill or whatever something like that for like nine dollars. Yeah that's where uh

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what the hell is the other outdoor um

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Meriwether is a lot better for options and even pricing is a little lower. No, it was just ridiculous. Anytime Live Nation is involved, you're getting screwed. I mean, it's just like a serious epic fail on their part. And I have to say, like, it's got to drive down sales. Like, how many people are really, like, I didn't see that many people drinking or eating, like, around us. Except for those funnel cakes that smelled so damn good.

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They were doing some other things around us the whole show. Somebody was busting wind. There was that too. It's funny because you go to a metal show or even a rock show and you're used to smelling pot when the bands are playing and you're like, oh, there it is. It's funny. I remember a lot more as a kid and then there was a 20, 30 year period where it just seemed like it was very intermittent.

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If ever, and then now it's way more. I remember, I had to go to, when we went to Maryland Death Fest, I think two days later I had to take a drug test for the government. I was nervous because I didn't do it, but secondhand contact, high smoke, I was like, I may fail this. It's funny because while we certainly did smell pot, there was a lot of cigar and possibly even pipe smell

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It was a lot sweeter than like a cigar smoke. Well, yeah, you gotta think the cost of those tickets is nobody's gonna be smoking some cheap-ass black cats out there or something like that. Yeah. So... It was nice to be... I think I was maybe the youngest person there tonight. You were definitely one of them, yeah. Yeah. Oh, my buddy's kids. They were probably younger. That's about it. Yeah. Oh, so that was Joe's kids? Him and his two kids. He's left? Yes. Okay. Yeah.

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Who apparently didn't have any better luck getting in either. It took them a long time to get in also. So, uh, what, uh, anything else? Uh, we're just driving home on 66 right now, right? I wasn't paying attention. We're on 66. We are on 66. We are somewhere near Fairfax. So nobody knows what that means except if you live in the area of Northern Virginia. Yep. So it's fine.

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It's funny how ridiculous 66 is trying to get into the show, but when you get out it's relatively peaceful. For now, don't jinx it. Sorry. We haven't gotten to the bell way yet. I do want to give a big shout out to my buddy Sam. Sam Puffenbarger, who was a brewery. Sorry, I spit all over you when I said that. Thank you. You can't say Sam's last name, Puffenbarger, without screaming it in some German crazy nonsense.

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Anyway, so Sam was there with his wife Anka. So Sam was a brewer with me at Atlas and we both left Atlas sort of around the same time. Under mysterious circumstances. Under mysterious circumstances. Now he's at DC Brown now, which is another great brewery. We've mentioned them a couple times. He was there with his wife Anka, who's a phenomenal human being who loves metal. And Steve Woz was there who works in the taproom at Atlas. Steve Wozniak.

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Yeah, do you know Steve Wozniak? I mean, that is his name, Steve Wozniak. That is not his name. Yeah. Like, yeah, like the Apple guy. Yeah, the Apple guy. That's what I'm saying. Is that, that's really his name? Yeah, his name is Wozniak. Everyone calls him Woz. Yeah, his name is Wozniak. Anyway, he was there, so I snuck away, as you guys know, for like... Half the set? No, no, no. It was during some song, and then I snuck away for Warp... It was during Warpigs, which I heard it.

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I left at Hand of Doom maybe? No, no. I stayed for Hand of Doom and stuck away for some song. Anyway. Behind the Wall of Sleep maybe? Yeah, yeah. That's what it was. And then it was War Pigs. But anyway, met up with those guys. It was great to see them. Anyway, big shout out to Sam and the Waz and Anka. Yeah. It was good. You know, we all knew like 20 people

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I knew you and you. I knew like 20 people who were there. And DC Metalcrest. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, we didn't see it. Yeah, we didn't see, but I felt like I had to see somebody I knew. So it's not a show unless we'll see somebody. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. It's crazy. Just because we didn't have any time, didn't run into anybody for the first time in like a long time at that place. I usually always see at least five or six people I know. I didn't even use the bathroom at the venue. I, when we were, when we pulled into park,

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I went into the porta potty and then as we were leaving I hit it again. I didn't even sit in my seat. I just walked in. I stood there. I watched and I left. Yeah. I mean that's all we did you know. I was hoping to stop by the merch booth on the way out but that was ridiculously long lines. Yeah. So. Because it's really smart to put merch right where all the sections filter out and so they all collide into each other right there and fights break out when people push each other. That's a

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Smart Move on Nissan Jiffy Loop, whatever your name is, venues part. And then they've got a merch booth at the exit that was already shut down. Yeah, exactly. It's unreal. So, you know, no new Black Sabbath Yen tour poster for the bar. Nope. But you can probably get one on the site for $52.99, so. Plus $100 shipping. Yes, exactly, because it'll be coming from late. So you'll have to pay tax, shipping, and. Provide your own too. And whatever the share.

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A sharing tax as well. Yes, thank you very much. Oh boy. Alright, well, you know, it didn't rain at all. No, we got lucky considering it was pouring when we were driving down, you know, in certain spots. So we got lucky today with that. Just getting in was the only issue for the whole day. Yep. So, yeah, it was fun. It was good to see you guys. And any closing words? It was great.

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I only regret is not bringing my daughter. Okay. John? I had a great time. It was really fun seeing my friends. And I hope we can do it again real soon. Yes. Yes. Well, next up, John and I will be traveling to Atlanta for Prague Power. Not Power Prague, as I am so fond of saying on the podcast. I like power more than Prague, so I put that first. So, yeah, a couple of weeks we'll be driving to Atlanta, so we'll probably be doing more of these recordings.

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Oh yeah, that's gonna be fun. Yeah, so we'll talk to you then. See ya later. Goodbye.