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Now, here's the Podcast Metal Heads Podcast.

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Hello, and welcome to the Metal Heads Podcast.

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My name is George.

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This is Jay.

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This is Will.

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This is John.

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This is Matt.

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This is Markisan.

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And we are joined tonight once again by Temple of Void.

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Welcome back, guys.

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Why don't you guys all sound off and tell us who's here? Hey, this is Alex. I play guitar. Oh, this is Brett. I play bass. This is Jason. I play drums. This is Don. I play guitar. And Mike may or may not be joining us. And also, you almost did that in alphabetical order by first name. You fucked it up a little bit, but nice track. So, you guys just released your third full

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Lank album last month, The World That Was. How fucking appropriate did that title turn out to be? I saw that and I was like, oh yeah, this is definitely quarantined music here. Yeah, we got lucky on that one. That's for sure. It reminds me of when Rust in Peace came out and he had the song Holy Wars and that's right when the, I think the first Gulf War 1991 was kicking off.

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And it was sort of like this prophecy of what was about to come by the album. No, not the album, but the song. And this seems appropriate because I don't know if we're ever going to get back to normal. Well, I would also call the line here quickly, but this means you guys are in good company. You also have parallels to Death Atlas and God Hates Us All. All albums with, you know, ironic. Yeah. So before we get into the music, I want to check with everybody,

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How everybody's doing? Is everybody well? All your people well? Nobody's sick, hopefully? All good on my side. All's well. Yeah, all good here, too. Cool. Yeah, we had a little bit of death in the family a week ago. Yeah, it wasn't ideal. It was a weird situation, but it is what it is. We're moving out, I guess. But my immediate family,

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We're all healthy and happy. Was it related to COVID? Yes, it was. It was my wife's grandma. Sorry, man. Very sorry to hear that. It's hitting Detroit area pretty hard, isn't it? Most definitely. It's so hard for her. Jason, are you still nursing? Yeah. Are you in the thick of things right now? Yeah.

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So we're both full on

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Well we wanted to make

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And I mean that's like I get emotional

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When I go to the grocery store and those fucking people are still

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Working on them like thank you thank you thank you

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So with all sincerity

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I as a human being

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Not as a podcast dude

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Not as a metal fan I'm so grateful

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For what you guys are doing and thank you

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For doing what you're doing so we can stay home

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Yes thank you

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Thank you

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Oh, yeah. Alex, are you doing remote teaching and stuff now as well? Oh, that's Mike is the teacher. Oh, oh. Yeah, creative director. So, yes, I'm directing my craves from my bedroom. So, it's pretty easy for me. And Mike just started doing teaching last week, I think, was his first internet lessons, which is really weird because he teaches special ed.

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Some of them are really far on the autism spectrum. So it's a very physical kind of teaching that he has to do at times. So I imagine of all teachers, he's in the most difficult position to reach out and deal with these kids who have autism through a camera. But he can speak to that if he decides to show. Don, what about you? Are you affected work-wise? Yeah, I work in, I've got a chef background, but I,

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Last couple years I've worked in a worked in spice manufacturing place that produces spices, seasonings, flour mixes all kinds of stuff commercially for restaurants and stores statewide nationwide. I got laid off back in March right when the right when the lockdown stuff started kind of happening here.

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I think it was the 24th I think. Okay. I think that's when the stay-at-home order started. If I'm wrong, somebody can correct me. Well, for those of you that are able to stay home, and I'm one of those, and I say for those of you because I know we have some first responders here, how are you guys handling that mentally? I mean, like, are you enjoying some of your time at home? Are you going a little stir-crazy? I mean, it's, I,

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I've got a lot of music stuff to work on, so I've been able to keep myself occupied in that regard. I play a lot of guitar, play a lot of drums, and kind of record some stuff here and there. Like I said, I've been able to keep myself occupied that way. It hasn't been so bad. I go outside and walk around and stuff. It's kind of just like a general repeat of that kind of daily. Do some stuff around the house here and there.

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You know, just kind of wait for the next set of directions, I guess. Yeah, we've been doing a lot of interviews with some bands just to sort of wellness checks of like, hey, how's everybody doing? And, you know, what's your neck of the woods looking like? And well, one thing I've been asking everybody is like, and I know since Michigan is so bad, do you have enough supplies? Are the stores stocked up? You know, got all the TP you need?

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Yeah, for the most part, I haven't had too much time doing anything. Like, lately, the last couple of grocery store runs that I've done, like toilet paper and paper towel, have both been pretty barring as far as on the shelves. When everything was first starting, there was a lot more empty shelves, you know, like empty bread shelves, empty meat shelves, stuff like that.

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I haven't really noticed lately any kind of food shortages or anything, but like I said, toilet paper, paper towel are pretty scarce.

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Here's the new shortage, by the way, and those of us who'd like to keep our hair short can appreciate this. It's hair clippers. You can't get them anywhere right now because everybody's had about three weeks now and they're having their wives cut their hair.

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You know what else you can't get?

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Amazon doesn't have them. Nobody's got them. They're gone.

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I bought mine off Amazon right when this started because I actually needed a haircut.

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And my wife gave me a haircut. That's why it's all one length right now. Number five. You know what else you can't get? I just found out the other day. Webcams. Yeah. Because my dad messaged me and asked if I knew where he could get a webcam. And I was like, I got an extra one here. I'll just run it over and throw it in your mailbox. And he's like, yeah, they're all sold out online. I was like, I guess that makes sense. But I mean, you would think most people have like their phone.

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and stuff built another new.

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You're listening to the Metal Heads Podcast.

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These guys just be glad you can't smell them.

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Listening to them, don't you kind of think they may be a man?

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Okay, so I accidentally hit a button.

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Sorry.

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You know, George, for anybody who might ask me, where do I get an external webcam?

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The answer is 2012, bro.

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Yeah, really?

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So that's another thing that unexpectedly is missing. But have you noticed, I haven't been out, but my wife's been out. Apparently the stores now have arrows in the aisles so that they make everybody go one direction. And it's just, it's like every time, every week, there's something new that they're doing. They've got the plastic shields and all kinds of stuff. It's crazy.

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Which is sort of sneeze guards for our library. So when we open. Safe on the floor in six foot increments. Nobody pays attention to that at all though. I've noticed. Everybody's wearing, a lot of people are wearing masks. Like we've got like a, they're kind of telling us to wear masks if you go out and close public spaces. Yeah. We have to now here in the Bay Area, we have to wear them. Yeah, here too. I kind of want to press Jason a little bit more and I forgot who the firefighter was.

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Is it you Brent? Yeah. So would you guys mind sharing, you know, where appropriate some of your front line experiences that you've seen? And without describing people's terrible suffering, but I mean, are you guys short on personal protective equipment, things like that? My department, we have an abundance of stuff. They drop off trailers of governmental supplies. Some we can't even use, so they're letting us take some home for friends and family. But yeah, we have plenty of supplies.

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We can do our job without them. They make sure we get them. Have you been face to face with infected people? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like so you get ambulance calls for that and things like that. Well, that's pretty much all we're getting called for. A lot of the kind of the bull crap that we used to get called for has died down and now it's mainly fever, difficulty breathing, all the, all the symptoms. Yeah. We're doing a lot of weird things.

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a month and a half ago. It's pretty crazy, but it's a pandemic, so they're on the cuffs. They're coming up with new protocols, especially the first two weeks of this whole thing. A lot changed. That was probably the most stressful. Now we're just kind of used to it. Business as usual, I suppose. Have any of your compatriots slash coworkers gotten sick? Yeah, we've had about five guys that were sick.

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But right now, I don't think we have anyone off sick or in quarantine. So we're full staff. And I know the area I work for is one of the hotbeds in Metro Detroit, in particular our county. So that's a good thing that we're all healthy. Which county? Yeah. We're in Oakland County, Michigan. Okay. I grew up outside Ann Arbor, so I have an inkling. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Oakland County.

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And so Jason, I assume you're actually in a facility of some sort of hospitals. Are you, is that where you work? Yeah, I work. I work in a hospital. Yep. Yep. And so like our supplies are, we have supplies, but we, the N95 masks that we wear, we have to actually at the end of the day, after a 12 hour shift, they go into a brown bag and then they're sent off and they're clean somehow with some kind of infrared ray type of cleaning that they use. Yeah.

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Just douse it in and disinfect it. You'll be good. Or just shoot it straight into your lungs, I think. But that's when we get those masks back at the next day for our next shift. But it's pretty scary, stressful, full of anxiety. But like Brent said, this is like the new norm for what we do. Yeah. And I think probably for a lot longer than these shelter in place last,

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This is going to go on for a while. So, I mean, even though that they say that the numbers are starting to, the admissions are going down, we still have full COVID floors, full 40, 40 people on vents when we usually have about maybe six to eight. Wow. Can I ask you what I don't really even know is a ventilator just a constant flow of oxygen or is it something that is there something more to it than that? No, it's actually breathing for you. It breathes for, okay. So it's like a machine, a device that. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's breathing for you. Yeah. Okay. And then we, you know, we take those patients and we put them onto their fully intubated, completely knocked out, put them onto their bellies prone so they can try to help, you know, with their lung pressure and everything. It's just, it's insane. It's crazy. Yeah. Like the lay person has no clue. Yeah. Well, I had heard, I'd heard about the stomach thing and how, I don't know who discovered that. And maybe that's about a long time practice for people who are suffering.

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I think they started doing it over in Italy actually. Is that right? Okay. Yeah. I'm not 100% but I'm almost I think so. Right on. Well so you're in an actual hospital by the way. Is it like a private hospital? Is it a city state hospital? It's a it's a it's well it's a it's a private hospital. It's one of the biggest hospital systems in Michigan. Gotcha. Yeah. You're a fucking hero man. All right let's talk about something more fun. Yeah yeah.

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I want to talk about the new album, but since everybody's locked up, and I know Don mentioned this already, are you guys working on any music or anything just, you know, passing the time, or are you just too busy doing other things? Just in case you didn't feel like you released enough stuff already in the first couple months of the year. Well, I know a lot of people are, is the thing. Yeah, I know, I'm sorry. Well, Don and I have been really, really prolific.

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right now, which is great, because I think both of us are of the impression that by the time we get back together, we're going to just have so much material ready to go between the two of us that we're going to be able to release album four in record time. I think it'll, based on how the stuff we're kicking back and forth and the vibe that we have going on, we're really excited to get back. So it's just a matter of when can we get back in the room together, when can we physically start seeing each other.

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But I think we're just gonna go, especially if there's a derp of shows, you know, and we can't get out in the road for obvious reasons, then it's just more, you know, for us to double down and just write and keep writing. So another three years for the next. Did you have shows on the docket that were canceled? Yeah, we had a record release show. And tonight. And last night. Oh, yeah.

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Oh, tonight, no less. Sorry. Was it a local show? Yeah, we had, like, we had curated some bands from out of state to come in to do our, like a, you know, a big gangbusters record release show here in Detroit. And then we were going to do Toronto last night. So it was, you know, supposed to be a big celebration weekend between the two cities for the new record. And it's not happening, but we're going to reschedule both. You know, it's better late than never. We have gigs, as you guys well know, scheduled for August.

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So, you know, fingers crossed that we see, you know, we make it to DC and New York and Pittsburgh in August at the very least. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Well, we, cause your guys are specifically Atlas, uh, in late August and we're hoping it won't be canceled. Um, but I'll tell you this, it's going to be so fucking balls hot in there that I don't think any virus is going to survive.

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I assume you guys miss playing together.

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Oh, big time.

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Just getting together and playing music.

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So when you get back together, you're going to be very excited to play some new stuff,

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play the stuff that you were going to play on tour.

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Yeah.

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I think this, this might be the longest stretch that we haven't like gotten together and played.

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Oh, for sure.

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And it's extra, it's extra sucky because I'm really digging what Don's putting down.

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Cause we have a Dropbox folder and we share stuff back and forth and I hear stuff and then he hears stuff and they're like,

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We want to get together and just start jamming on this. Start putting these Lego pieces together and start building stuff. Is Mountain Doom open by any chance? Can you actually get in there? We could, but just like you have kids at home and I have a kid, we got a... From my perspective, I'm not going to rush this, especially hanging out with Brent and Jason being on the house.

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We're the official self-advent of the band right now. I believe the word is vector, Jason. Unless you have the antibodies, Brent, in which case we're probably going to hang out with you all the time, whether you like it or not. Hold hands, hug a lot. We just got our blood tested yesterday, so we'll find out in a week. Yeah, and I'm getting mine done tomorrow, so hopefully if some of us have antibodies, I know we can at least start hanging out with those people.

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So they're testing for people's antibodies now? I mean, I've heard the word antibody thrown around in the last week or so. People are immune. I want to believe I'm one of those. Yeah, if you've gotten it and you're over it, then you have the antibodies. You don't have to tell you. You can get it again, they're saying. Maybe, yeah. We don't know. That's the problem. We don't know stuff. This reminds me of a very short joke, I have to tell you, which is this guy goes to the doctor and he's been dealing with it.

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of serious illness and the doctor comes in and he says I'm sorry I just don't have any good news for you. The guy said okay well how much time I got left and he says 10. The guy goes 10 what weeks months help me out and the doctor goes 9, 8, 7, 8, 7, 8, 7, 8, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9,

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Well, I'm going to ask one question quick, and then I'll defer to some of the other people because I've already talked a lot. But I wanted to ask Alex, who kind of gave us a little tour of his, we'll call it his man cave. And he's got a lot of fantasy books. And I'm wondering if you own the book that is the cover of Terror in the Supernatural. I do. Yay. Look at that haircut on Alex. Whoa, whoa, yeah, you get the profile view. Oh, that's awesome, dude. Look at that, Will. That's awesome. That's rad, dude. Speaking of which.

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I just spent like an hour looking online trying to find a vinyl copy of that. Do any of you guys have an extra copy laying around so I don't have to buy it from eBay for like some from the UK for some ungodly amount of money? Well, we can't say anything, but you just did. There may not be a shortage for that much longer. Good. I can wait then.

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off my list.

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I can take you guys for a tour of the,

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the tomb of doom in a minute too.

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Cool.

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Is that your man cave?

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The practice space downstairs that we practice.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's just,

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it's pretty sweet.

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All right.

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Yeah.

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I'll,

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I'll get back to the album.

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So I can't remember who made the joke that you guys released a lot of

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material this year.

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You had the Decibel Flexi, you had the Unspeakable, what is it, Axe, the four-way split or something like that. Did you guys write all of that material in the sessions, or is that something that's been kind of going on for the last, what, year and a half, year or whatever since this stuff started coming out? We did the Unspeakable Axe stuff all at the same time. We did a Revell and Flash split, and

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We recorded those songs for the four-way split. I think we recorded that in 2018. It came out in 2019. The Revlon Flesh came out in 2019. Then Splits. That's why I just have a bone to pick with Splits from a collaboration perspective. It just always takes forever. We planned it as a stopgap. We wanted Revlon Flesh to come out and then a few months later The Four Doors to come out. Anytime you've got three or four bands collaborating on something.

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That's a big split. It takes forever. So then they back up and then it's like boom, boom, boom. All this stuff is coming out. We tried to space it out and just things happen. And then with the Flexi, we recorded that at the same time as the album. And it was by no means like a throwaway track by any stretch. No, it's definitely not. I thought it was great that you guys did it with Decibel. Yeah, we were...

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say arguing, arguing, arguing, maybe arguing over what made it onto the album because we really, there was a lot to think about. Well, what to give someone is like the first impression of Temple of Void and that's why we ended up going with that song because ultimately we felt if you don't like that, then you just don't like Temple of Void. So that's why that would be a good first introduction where there are some other songs, like if you took them off the album and there's like a standalone track, it wouldn't reflect Temple of Void as an entity.

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Like if you put Leave the Light Behind, that doesn't represent the band, you know, like collectively. But it makes perfect sense within the record. And it's Will's favorite song because it has clean vocals. Yeah. It's obviously a great song. I wanted to put it, well, from our perspective on the record. But that was kind of what it came down to, was if you'd never heard this, what would be the best track for you to hear as like a sample? And that's really why it went on there. If we had more,

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you know minutes on on vinyl then we just would have put it on the record it just what can you put on a physical on a 12 inch record you know that's what it came down to so the ravenous eyes at a distance if decibel didn't ask you that would have been on the world that was well no something would have been cut in order to put that on the world that was because we don't there's not enough it's like 38 minutes as it is if we put that on then it just would have it's too long to fit on the format

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So you're talking about like on vinyl like you wanted to have okay. Yeah. So you guys are basing then the albums off of vinyl times that when you put together your your song list that I mean, I don't see what other choice like. Yeah, doesn't it get pushed into three sides? Yeah. That reminds me to Jerry is your latest one printed. Yeah, vinyl and has it been held up if it's not. I was just gonna reach for mine.

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Also, did you solve your other vinyl problem? Well, because I was just checking my collection. Did one of these guys have a copy for you? I guess the impression that it will be imprinted again. These aren't the droids you're looking for. I just took all those extra songs and added them to my MP3 folder and just made one big album. I always listen to all of it together. They're all great. That's awesome. Perfect. Perfect.

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the 30-some minutes, isn't it? Those six songs? Five songs, whatever you have? Probably, yeah. Yeah, thereabouts. And that's been the tricky thing about getting a new pressing of Tear and the Supernatural when you're talking about vinyl length. That's a double LP. So that's just like a different can of worms for labels to deal with. Is it all four sides? Yeah, it's all four sides. We could fit it onto three sides, but none of us,

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The first press came out on the four-sided double LP. We liked that two songs per side. It just kind of balanced out real well. I don't think any of us really wanted to do a three-sided double LP. So it's just been harder to find a label to double the cost. It's funny because a month, I forget what album was, but I got my first three-sided vinyl. And then when I was on disc two,

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So to speak. And then I flipped it over to side four. And then I was like, I was like, what the hell is going on? I was like, oh, shit. There's no music on this side. First off, truth be told, I am new to vinyl. About two years ago, I bought a record player. So, well, yeah, if you notice there's no label on that side, you might want to angle them in the light to see if it's etching. Well, the other thing would be grooves is an important part of the process.

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The other cool thing though about a three-sider, and this would be the only reason that it would be cool to have a Temple of Void one, is I love an etch. I love it when people do an etch-to-etch on a fourth side, but totally your logic. Did you guys ever consider holding off on those songs and then putting them on another album and releasing two albums? If you had enough material? I mean, Don and I were just talking the other day about when we go in to record album four, how we'd like to do it.

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I like to have a lot of stuff to choose from so that we have extra stuff to do things with but I can't I don't know I mean like Brent do like a user illusion one and two like guns and roses is like that it's exactly like that yeah don't don't do that yeah those are good albums I would have just preferred one use your illusion I'd be okay if you cover November rain though that'd be pretty awesome for sure man of all the guns and roses

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That's why I picked it. It's really long and epic though. Civil War. Civil War would probably be good for us, I guess. Yeah. Well, you guys took a year off from performing live in 2019 to record that new record. So how did devoting that much time to writing benefit the album for you? I feel like I'm talking too much. Someone else say something.

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I feel like it's kind of almost the only way we can do it. We only practice once a week and for two hours. So when you throw a show or two in there, you have to rehearse the set for two or three weeks before you play the shows because you want to be tight for the show. It could almost be three weeks to a month not working an album and you're preparing a show. So we felt like enough time had passed between the albums.

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that we need to just basically focus and, you know, write. We all work and with family. So, you know, this isn't full time for any of us. So that's pretty much the only way we felt we could really get it done without dragging out. You know, it's already been three years. So. Right. Time flies, doesn't it? Because I mean, I don't feel like it was that long ago we talked to you guys, but it's been a while since we talked to you. Yeah, I was looking back at my,

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I had this collection of photos from all the shows at Atlas and I was like, man, why can't I find the Temple of Void? Then I realized, oh, it was two years ago. It wasn't last year. I was like, shit, time flies. Wow. Yeah, because I remember we were all at that show too. Yeah. Yeah, I just posted that on our Instagram, that picture from after the set at your venue. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, that was a great show.

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I posted that because we had such a

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in our band camp and I was looking all happy and not grim and dark so that was a good picture I used

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it was from your I don't know which one of you took it but it was probably me I always try and get everyone

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after after every set I try and get the band members up on the stage and take a picture and

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Someday I'll make some sort of book or something about all the

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shitty Samsung photos on my phone. The best ones are when we put the lights on and then it's at the end that we get the band members.

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Hey Brent, do you do all the stuff on Instagram? Because I noticed you've been grabbing, like I posted, when I got the album, I took a picture and posted it. And then I noticed, I don't know how, I guess you tagged me or something. And I noticed in this, what do they call this?

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the little video that shows up on people's Instagrams, you were using all the different pictures from different people who had posted the album on Instagram. And I noticed you were rotating that. That's actually very cool, I think, because at any given time, you could see your picture showing up on Temple Void's Instagram page. Yeah, I mean, I do. I hope people don't think it's to brag. But at the same time, we're super stoked when somebody likes our album enough to post online about it. You know, buy it, obviously, but post online and talk about it.

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I commented on some merciful fate thing one time and Michael Denner liked my comment and I've ever since been like yeah Michael Denner is a friend of mine. Not true but I mean he did like it and I was just like thrilled somehow in some universe he knows about me. Simple pleasures of life. Brent do you do the Facebook stuff too? Facebook I'm Instagram. Who does Facebook?

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I do the Facebook. Okay. I was scrolling through. I was very impressed by all the reviews coming in from different countries. You know, the Spanish, you had Czech, there was Italian. And just the quotes, just the one thing I wanted to pull out, one of the quotes that somebody wrote, what was it? To be carried away on the blood foam waves of the Death Doom medal of their performance. That was from a Czech blog.

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I mean, it was just some amazing writing. I mean, based on an amazing album, obviously, but I don't see that a lot on different Facebook pages, you know, different like reviews from so many various countries. That was pretty awesome. Yeah, it's cool. I mean, sometimes we get some hilarious ones because of Google Translate, you know? Well, yeah, I was going to have to say, because obviously you use Google Translate for those. Yeah, yeah. And just to get the gist of it, you know, for the main part, but I like to,

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You know, from a global perspective, it's nice to post those so that people in country, because we know we have people in Greece and Italy and wherever, you know, supporting us. So it's nice that they can read something in language. So I'll just try and get a snippet, translate it. Yeah, the most recent one from Finland was talking about Mike's diaphragm, like he had the best diaphragm in the business. So I think something got lost in translation.

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I love Temple of Void long time. You know, Steve Martin used to do a joke about that, John, about some vocal coach who was trying to get a woman to sing from her diaphragm. That would take years to learn, wouldn't it? Have you guys... That's actually really good. He had a way of doing that. I mean, everything that I've seen, the world that was, has gotten rave reviews, but have you gotten,

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A. Bad Review? Yeah, some guy told me that I hold my drumsticks like a child. Nah. That was a YouTube comment, Jason. That was a YouTube comment. Oh, yeah. And that's more like a personal attack and not like a commentary on the record. Stop doing that. We haven't got any bad reviews. We haven't got any bad reviews for the world that was. That's good.

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Oh, that's great. That's wonderful to hear. Decimal gave you an eight, which is, you know, pretty respectable. Well, especially since they knock three off of everything. So that is true. Yeah. We had a conversation with Albert one time when we were at Maryland, when we were at Maryland death fest a couple of years ago. And I asked him how the reviews go. And he basically, Albert basically said like, yeah, they submit the reviews and their number. And then I usually knock it down a couple of points. So that means you were like an 11. Yeah.

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I wanted to ask about the artwork for the album. That's once again some pretty awesome artwork. I'm sure we'll be seeing that on our year-end album covers list. Who did the artwork? That was done by Adam Burke. He was the guy that we went with after. We had a list of artists that we all were into as far as what we wanted.

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to do for the album cover. Adam ended up being the guy that we went with. I still can't pronounce the name of the record. Corner Bog. Alex? Oh yeah, that Russian guy. Yeah. The cover's got the eye in the mountain. That cover blew me away when I saw it.

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Alex and I have talked about that before and you know he said that you know you bought that strictly just because the album art looks so cool. We were all blown away by what Adam did for the record I think. I think I can speak to everybody on that one. So was this an original thing that he made just for your just for the album and like did you did you send him the tracks and the lyrics and stuff did he make it based upon the album or like how did how did the process go?

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I think we gave them the title and some loose ideas. Maybe like color, scale, and Mike had some loose ideas. But in general, we try and allow the artists to be the best that they can be. And we don't want to breathe down their neck and dictate and whatever. So we need to be happy with it, but we try to give them freedom at first and allow them to express themselves.

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So I'm guessing that most of it is based upon Leave the Light Behind? Yeah. Yeah. So as I mentioned, we do a year-end album covers list. And the highlight of that tends to be Marc-Asan talking in great detail about his album cover choices. And being that our listeners cannot see the album cover that Will held up earlier, I was wondering if maybe Marc-Asan

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If Marcasson could maybe work your wordsmithing and give us a description of this album cover as you do. Okay, put me on the spot. Let me take a look at this thing. It's got some red in it. No, he's good. He's good. Watch what he does. All right. Picture, if you will, Metalheads, a planet.

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Once thriving, now blanketed in a primordial marshland of poison fog and bile, where all the great structures of man and goblin lie forgotten beneath an endless unforgiving swamp. Only a handful of sentient creatures remain here. Their only hope is to travel to the equator by makeshift boat and find the temple of void, where the nexus of realities converge and offer the faintest

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possibility of another life in another realm far from the horrors of the world that was. Did you literally just make that up right now? See, you need him to record an intro for the next album. Also, that just made number five on our top five list this week. Marcus, did you literally just make that up now? No, no, I wrote it. George warned me about it. I gave him a heads up.

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But man, that would have been awesome. You should have lied. You totally should have lied. I can edit it out. All right. So I have an album comment slash question, and it's about the instrumental track. I don't want to say the word wrong. Sable Obulus. Obulus. Thank you, because I was going to pronounce that wrong. Absolutely. And I want to tell you that that is, without being any kind of, only in the most positive sense, it's one of the most best and most authentic and yet unique

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to your own visions, nods to those wonderful things that Tony Iommi used to put on Sabbath albums that were those little segues between Song Tom's. You know what I'm talking about, just these great little musical pieces he did, up to and including that there's even some bongos or something on there that it's just so, it's original, but it's got that Sabbath thing all over it and it's just great. I just love it.

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I kind of wish Mike was here to talk about it, but I did do a little research and my assumption is that was because the song is dedicated to Dave and I can't pronounce, I'll butcher the last name. Yes, I played in a band. I played in a traditional flamenco band for a very, very long time. And David was a guitar player I played with and he passed away and he was a classically trained master's degree musician. Right. Cause he spent.

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He spent some time in Venezuela and started picking up on that kind of music, right? Exactly. Then he came back to Detroit, went to Wayne State, got his master's degree, and was a classically trained guitarist. And we played in a flamenco band together. Yeah, because there's a lot of... Because what Mike did with the acoustic is there's a lot of Latin influence in that song, what I noticed. Oh, it's... Yeah, it's full on. Oh, it's a great piece, man. It's really good. Am I the only one who's feeling that?

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I have a thing though or is that just am I crazy no it's been brought up yeah it's been mentioned

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before it's a compliment by the way I mean it's not at all kind of like I was trying to really not make a

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shit like you guys were like oh do anything they do I mean it's fucking cool and those are hard to capture too like it's really hard to get the vibe right on something like that and there's a sadness to that and because it's you guys there's also a little foreboding yes I love that kind of stuff on records I love that kind of stuff especially on a metal record so anyway it's very cool edition awesome man thank you it's interesting because the what

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So the title of the song leads into Leave the Light Behind. I'm assuming that was the titling of the song was on purpose like that? Yeah. That was Mike's. Those two tracks went together. Yeah. Yeah. So did Mike come up with the concept or the lyrics for Leave the Light Behind? Yes. He does all the lyrics. Okay. He is one sick motherfucker.

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What is that other band Mike's in? Is it Acid Witch? Yeah, it is him. Okay. Yeah, I was trying to remember. They pop up into my vision every once in a while. Yeah. He plays guitar in Acid Witch. Everyone always thinks he's the singer for Acid Witch. Yeah. He's actually the guitarist for Acid Witch. Gotcha. I'm assuming Leave the Light Behind is about the char and taking the dead across the river Styx and all that stuff. Yep. Yeah.

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Sarcasket of Shame. We're going to have to argue over that pronunciation for a little while, though. Whatever it is. I go with the King Diamond pronunciation, but he pronounces Sarcophagus, so don't get me wrong. Who can name what record? Aluminium and Oregano. Somebody better know what record that's from. None of you guys. Where it says Sarcophagus. I'm hanging up song, motherfuckers. It's on Abigail.

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Speaking of, is it safe to assume that the five figures in the boat are the five of you on the cover? Yes. Yes. Awesome. Who's steering? Not Jason. No, it's not. That's good. Definitely not him. That's good. Yeah, it's a ferryman who's steering. We're just passengers along for the ride.

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You know, it's a shame that Mike's not here because I have all these questions about the lyrical content. Whenever I get a new Temple Void album, I'm always trying to decipher, okay, what weird horror story is this from? And then I noticed that the Four Doors to Death, both the three songs on there, but the two that are not instrumental,

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They're about Dungeons and Dragons Forgotten Realms stuff, if I'm correct. 100%. So is that Mike as well coming up with that? That was a requirement of the comp, I believe, right, Al? Like, the kind of cosmic horror? Yeah, like, they asked for a cosmic horror. It's supposed to be themed around cosmic horror, and Mike didn't want to go Lovecraftian on it, although we did name the second track after an August Durlith.

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A Short Story. So the second one is technically Lovecraftian. But the... I've just asked him before, you know, like he likes Warhammer, I like Warhammer obviously. So like I'll throw him, hey, do some Warhammer shit. And he rolls with it and he was just, I don't know. I think that was his interpretation of the cosmic horror without getting too, I guess, obvious.

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I heard that you guys play D&D. A couple of you play D&D too, right? Yeah, like every week I play Call of Cthulhu with Eric, the old guitarist. And Eric and I also play D&D on a monthly basis. And then pretty much every Saturday night he comes over here and we paint Warhammer figures. But that's obviously not going on at the moment with COVID. But yeah, and Mike's into Warhammer too.

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I swear.

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Well, I feel like your band always offers something different with each release. Your records don't ever seem like a rehash of what came before, even though they still sound like Temple of Void. So I was wondering when you approach the writing and recording, is that a goal that you set out to achieve to deliver something completely fresh every time?

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As opposed to doing everything the same?

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Yes.

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I would say yeah.

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There's a lot of bands that retread what they do.

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No, yeah, you're right. And I think it's a pretty conscious effort. We definitely have a formula that we think it has to be temple avoid. And if it doesn't meet certain criteria, it doesn't make it. But yeah, we had no intentions of writing of Terran Supernatural again when we did Lords of Death. And same thing, we weren't going to put out Lords of Death Part 2.

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We still try to write a heavy Death Doom album and we try to, yeah, maybe surprise people a little bit. Alex would have a lot more to say. Well, I just think we grow as humans and your influences change. And when you're putting out a statement of a body of work that takes three years to come out in between records, it just makes sense that you're going to

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different influences are going to come in. You're going to hear different things. As you're writing riffs, you're in different head spaces. So it's bound to manifest itself differently. And at a high level, we're talking about death, doom. We're talking about the whole genre of death metal, the whole genre of doom metal. There's so much to play with within those gigantic genres of music that we can pull from so much in death and so much in doom. And you can put it together in so many, such a variety of ways.

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that if we it'd be hard to kind of do it the same twice you know um that's just not where our heads are at and then if you've got that as the basis you're layering on like jason just said he was in a flamenco band for years and years so you can't extract that from his dna and then you can't take out what i listen to that's like non-metal from from this and everyone has so much stuff going on that it all creeps in

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I think most of you guys have other bands except maybe Jason I don't know if you do no I play I play a few other bands too oh you do okay yeah but I know like I look at Hellmouth and that's like most it seems like like hardcore punk kind of thing yeah very different we're on hiatus right now just because I'm kind of like a one one band guy you know like I find it if you're doing something a hundred percent

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If you do two things, you can't do them 100%. That means anything you're doing on one, you're subtracting from the other, and vice versa. So it's hard for me to split my time and give focus to two different entities. And also in between Sarton Hellmouth and Temple of Void, I had a kid who was three and a half. So that really makes you prioritize things in life when how many band practices am I really going to afford myself?

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I can just do TOV. Hellmouth hasn't broken up, but we'll resurrect ourselves when the time is right, I guess. Brent, do you have any other side project bands? Or not side project, but just other bands that you're in? Nope. Only Temple of Void for me. That's the same thing. I can't imagine trying to cram more. I mean, even once a week. I work 24 hours. When I go to work, I'm gone for 24 hours.

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So that's three days a week that I'm gone for my wife and then you throw it in band practice in the evening. And yeah, I couldn't afford more time. Yeah. I don't think we ever asked this question, but what do your families think of your music? My wife in particular loves it. I would say she's one of our biggest fans and she hears like all 20 mixes we get every album. So she hears it from the roughest six up until

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You know, till it's finally done. And so, and then she's also in, while we were in quarantine, she was part of our shipping and receiving. So it was her and I shipping out all the pre-orders and t-shirts and all that stuff. So it was a full-time job. She's awesome. And yeah, she's, she's super supportive. So she likes metal. Yes. I don't think I can be married to someone who didn't. I can't even imagine what that's like. Trust us. It's rough.

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Six of us, man. There's not a single metalhead wife out there. Oh, man. Bummer. I don't even know what it would be like to be married to somebody that loves metal. Wait, wait. Women like metal? Right. You know what? I don't even know. It doesn't have to be a woman at this point, Matt. You, me, come on. Let's do it. Exactly. We're all your work wives, Matt. Them too.

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I realize that he's late to this and he might try calling in now. Okay. Anytime is fine. Yeah. Is he like on the cusp of a different time zone? No. Michigan's all one zone. Well, but maybe it's like the Mike time zone or something. Well, I'm just saying because it's exactly 10 o'clock and maybe he's like, oh. The THC time zone. Fuck that. I've been getting high all day. I came here on time.

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You're a total pro, bud. You're a total pro. Totally something to hang my hat on, right? Yeah. So I was going to ask, too, about, there's like a greater emphasis in the album on synth layers. I mean, you guys viewed synth before, but I feel like it's more prominent on this and adds a lot of texture to the songs. How did that come about? Is that something you wanted to build up to for this record?

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We've always collaborated with Omar. He's been on all three records. He's a friend of mine. And he's a musical genius. Like legit musical genius. So we've always relied on him to add stuff sporadically. And I've always thought what he's done is, you know, added a lot of texture and dimension. It's been great. And for the new one, I thought, let's,

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Let's double down on that. Let's go even further. And so I tapped a friend of mine who does sound design. So we had Omar interpret some songs and then we had a friend of mine named Meredith to do sound design. And it was a different ask from her. So Omar is doing very musical stuff. And Meredith is doing more atmospheric as if she's scoring a film. So it's less about notes and notes.

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and adding swells and noises, if you will. And it was just all about... So we decided to do that on every song. And then I did Leave the Light Behind. Just because I like tinkering with that kind of stuff too. And I like all that kind of spacey stuff. So I did that track. But as opposed to having the other albums that had maybe two tracks or three tracks it's in, we said let's do it on the whole thing. So we did it on the whole thing.

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between Omar Meredith and I did the one song. I think the title for that is Satanic Foley Artist, just so you know. Yes. And it's really just, I think on this one, it was about dialing in the mix correctly so that it didn't overpower. But I felt like on some of the other albums, we had, we weren't confident enough to push it where it needed to be. And it was a little too far in the background. And O-Taps to L-O-D to the world that was,

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with the same producer, same engineer, and the same setup, and we've improved in the production. And this was just one more element that improved, was finding the pocket to have it sit in and really resonate and contribute to the atmosphere. And I just can't ever imagine going back. Now that we've got this whole sound design thing down on this record, I think this is the way forward. You know, a lot of my favorite records have that, and I can't tell you how much I enjoy.

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having the headphones on and then catching something that you might not have caught five times in a row or ten times in a row and then there it is and you hear it and it to create soundscapes like that is so hard i think but honestly important it's it pushes some of the best records out there over into great records you know so i applaud you for doing that i think that's a great notion you know i agree i love discovering new things each time you spin the album there's a lot of that on this one do you like

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The Dungeon Synth?

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The Dungeon Synth?

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The Dungeon Synth was not to, we never, I don't think, I don't think we ever want the synth to be the primary instrument.

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Sure.

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So that if we played it live, you go, where's that synth part?

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So we have to find that balance where it contributes to the listening experience when you've got headphones on and you're listening to the album.

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Yeah.

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But it doesn't overpower it so that when you see us live, you're like, oh, I felt like they were lacking something.

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So like a visceral live experience, but a nuanced, deep headphone experience. You know, there's, I've, for some reason over the last two days, I've listened to Heartwork and Surgical Steel twice, both days. I've listened to the Carcass albums and I was listening to one and I'd forgotten that in the headphones, you could hear that they did this background thing in one of the songs and you'd know it. I can't remember the name of the song, but it's where he just goes under every phrase and it's so fucking cool. And it's, and it's not something you can do. I mean, he's,

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And it was as quiet as I just described. So my point is that's the kind of architecture I love, dude. That's good stuff and you guys need to stick with it. That's a great concept. Yeah, I don't think a lot of people use synths in the way that we use them as pure sound design. I think people often use them more from a musical perspective. I think that for me that might be something that is piquing people's interest more and maybe they can't articulate why it sounds so deep.

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I think the way you guys do it is the right way to do it

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just my two cents you know a death doom band and when you

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putting the sense in like I just I think it adds like that extra flavor like that extra extra like

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cosmic almost like what you were describing earlier like it's like part of the soundtrack

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it's not part of the music it's just part of the soundtrack like the background and I really like it

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And I'm not usually a synth kind of guy. Not to keep you on the parallel, but that's a Sabbath trick too. Sabbath on all of the later era Sabbath albums, that's happening. And they tour with a synth player, whether you know that or not. Yeah. Rick Wakeman's son. Adam Wakeman. Oh, there you go. In any case, this is fun to talk about. And it looks like Mike joined us. Yeah. I think, and then he left. Is he there? I don't know.

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It's just as fun. Michael's iPhone has joined us. It's like a visual synth. Also, it's sort of like this to me. This is not unlike talking to my grandmother or something via Zoom. Mike, can you hear us? Yeah, I can hear you. All right.

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Welcome.

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Welcome.

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Thank you.

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Sorry, I'm late.

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No worries.

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We're describing you as, as it's like, because your camera's moving as like when you talk to your parents, it's Mike, honey, you're too close to the camera.

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Yeah, I'm using my phone.

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I'm working on my laptop doing work stuff.

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And so now I'm trying to get somewhere to balance my phone where you can actually see my face.

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There you go.

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That works.

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There you go.

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And we got you.

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And you got the razor shirt on.

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Nice job.

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You got quite the man we were talking earlier I don't know if we were recording it but we're talking about everyone's man cave and you just got like a man cave full of books who does you is that are they books behind you no those are LPs oh Jesus that's a lot yeah I've been I've been collecting since I was in high school I don't know I'd say it probably got over 2000 at this point

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They used to do this thing in, I think it was Metal Hammer, where they would take an artist's iPod and hit random, and then they'd have to explain why they have the song. So reach behind you, grab one record, and let's see what it is. Randomly. God, please let it be Britney Spears or something like that. Hour 13. I actually got this. This was at Hell's Head Bash 2. Oh, you even know what you got. Okay, you're cool. Shadow Kingdom stuff that they had actually marked down, and I

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I picked up a bunch of that. So yeah, it's pretty cool. Cool doom stuff. You're cooler than the rest of us. And I know that dude, you know, you guys talk and whatnot. That was fun. We're back over here in the H's. That was awesome. We got to do that more often. I can pull you another one if you want. Do it. One more. Let's do one more.

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It's heavy, whatever it is. Billy Cobham, Spectrum, awesome fusion record. All the way to the other side of the spectrum. Tommy Boland, you know, who did some fusion shit with him and Alphonse Muzan and he was the dude that replaced Richie Blackmore when he was on Come Taste the Band and all those Deep Purple albums too. Really underrated player. Yeah, and died at a young age of, what was it, an overdose or did he? I think it was.

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He either overdosed or he drank himself to death. I know. I'm pretty sure that he dabbled in many things. There you go. Pills, parters, and potions, as Phil Lina would say. Will, did you have some questions you had mentioned about lyrics? Yeah, well, I got a million of them about lyrics, but now that you're all here, I wanted to ask you, do you guys each have your own personal favorite song from the new album?

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Jason, what is going on at your house? I know it's Mike. Hold on. Anthony. Shush. If that works, you're going to be get father of the year. Yeah. That's how you do an Italian over here. Shush. I thought you'd just give him a spicy meat to ball.

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I think the last track is my favorite, Leave the Light Behind. It's just I really enjoy playing the third movement. I like the, I mean, it's kind of three movements, so like a doom part, a death metal part, and then whatever you want to call the final third. You said the last track, but then you said Leave the Light Behind. Are you talking about the world it was? Yeah, Leave the Light.

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The World It Was. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it's in three movements. The last part is just really fun to play. It's just very cathartic. I think just like physically to play those notes and everything that like Jason's doing, it just gets, it's kind of transcendent, I think, from like just a physicality perspective. Just playing it, it's a lot of fun. And the death metal part is just super boneheaded and

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We like the boneheaded stuff. So it's kind of got it all for me, this catharsis, boneheaded shit. And then I like the, I don't know. It's very emotive in the beginning, the doom part, playing those harmonies with Don. I don't know. There's a physicality about it that I really enjoyed playing that song. Since you mentioned that, that's, like I was saying earlier, I tried to like really delve down into all the lyrics.

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and try and figure out what they're from. And then, um, so for the world that was the best, the best summarization of the lyrics that I could come up with, what they're meaning is it's, it's almost like the crusaders coming back from like a never ending war. Is that kind of close to what it really is about? Um, what I, what I wrote it on, like, I mean, just as far as like storyline goes, it's just kind of the idea of,

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y si,

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just kind of suck away into the void which is supposed to talk about the whole like coming of the age of Sigmar like Warhammer War kind of stuff because I was talking with Alex about that and like with the title of the world that was and and all that sort of stuff I kind of played into that and there's some like references to it like um and you know within the song itself but yeah I mean it's all just kind of like existentially sort of like you know what you watch

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Watch it all just kind of go to the void and get sucked away and it's just kind of like well what ultimately is you know what was the point of this you know like a lot of like the 40k war is it's like you've gone so far into the future that all there is is war it's just war for the sake of war and it's it's dying and it's it's you know all just these like great negative things that come from that and just like the callousness and the lack of humanity and you know the question the existential question of like

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What is it ultimately for? Because in the end, the void takes it all away, you know? And I thought that was kind of cool to try and tie back into the idea of the whole, like, Temple of Void, you know, I guess giving some mythos to the band itself. I feel like it sounds very pretentious right now, but I'm trying to explain it. Super pretentious. But, yeah, I don't know. And there's other things, you know, death is, yeah, I said in another interview, you know, death is a great ego.

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You know, Tom G. War, your only death is real kind of shit. And I don't know, just kind of that sort of thing where it's like, it doesn't really matter who you are, you know, what your sexual orientation is, your gender, your, you know, whatever, race, class, anything like that. I mean, in the end, we all die. It's kind of the unescapable thing, you know, and I guess in the question of

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I don't know what the battle and everything going on and looking at it. You know, what is what was the purpose of it all? So Mike, what's your favorite song on the album? I don't know. I also sent another interview to where it's like, I feel like they're all pretty important and kind of worked into each other. I think the way that things incidentally worked out, even with the track ending or the track listing, like the first

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the song that comes in is really the only song on the album we had another song that ended up being the decibel flexi but those are the only two songs on the record or like from that recording session that had lyrics on it that were essentially similar to like the previous albums like some sort of like short horror story or some sort of you know i don't know it's some sort of nod to that you know some sort of horror element to it whereas everything else lyric wise

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was just kind of like approaching concepts of death and trying to write from different ways like address death from different sides and stuff like that so it's hard for me to pick i like the world that was it for the same reasons alex does i mean it's it's a 10 minute song that honestly really doesn't feel like a 10 minute song because i definitely know bands that have 10 plus minute songs i mean you're feeling it and i i will say that i mean it moves swiftly

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And it's good and it's cool and it's a lot

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It's still heavy but it opens a lot of doors

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You know for the future and a lot more options

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For us and you know

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And kind of creates

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A little bit more of that band identity

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Sort of thing like here's a whole other

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Like side to the palette

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That you know where you can

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Take it and you can add elements now

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You know

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So I don't know I might say the title track

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On it

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How about you Brent?

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Cast Me to Shame. I love the ending. I love when we rehearsed that because we have yet to play it live. So the same thing is kind of what Alex and Mike were saying. I feel like the song breaks up from kind of heavy grooving death metal to something a little more atmospheric and hypnotic at the end. But Cast Me to Shame. Yeah, that's my favorite. I'm looking forward to playing it live. How about you, Jason?

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It's hard to pick. I enjoy playing and listening to every song. I think the rule that was is just it has this enormous epicness to it. It's so fun to play. It's so fun to listen to. But Self Schism for me is just it's heavy. It's groovy. It has cool little breakdown parts to it. And I don't know. It's heavy and it's catchy. And that's my song.

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I dig it a lot oh Don man Jason totally stole you stole my line man

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and for a lot of this for a lot of the same reasons you know it's got like a it's not that real like

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heavy crushing groove that drives like you know the first like half more or less of the song the uh you know

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that atmosphere kind of like clean part comes in with the toms and stuff. You know, Alex mentioned earlier about, you know, using, you know, the synths as a way to create, you know, a kind of atmosphere across the record. And I think we were able to do that with some of the guitar work that we were doing here, especially in that song. I feel like a lot of, like a lot of riffing, like in Celtskid's and is, I don't want, I guess minimal, you know, is, you know, is maybe one way to word it. But we, like I said, we, we use a lot more,

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There's more atmosphere in that song. There's more, you know, there's, you know, there's a little tension, there's some push pull kind of stuff going on, you know, and then when it all, when it comes back towards the end, you know, it comes back into like, you know, a whole other different kind of groove. That's what I'm really looking forward to playing. I'm looking forward to playing all these songs live when we finally, you know, get back to that point. But Celestism, I think is going to be a really, really fun one.

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And it's still like crazy to me, that track has three notes in it.

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Yeah, I feel like that's kind of the song we were able to take like, you know, kind of that main that main riff and just kind of run with it and just kind of shift it around just a little bit to kind of make it work in other in other areas of the song. Three notes in the truth. So I got to ask so that I remember when

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We got the promo or yeah, I got the Alex sent us the promo for it. And then

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the thing that I noticed first about this album that it was way more, not way more, but it was more melodic than the previous two releases, terror than supernatural and Lords of death. But probably the biggest striking difference is the clean singing on leave the light behind. So my, so my question is like, how did you decide to kind of do that? Cause you had clean singing,

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Graven Desires, but it was like a much different type of clean singer, and it was much shorter. So here you got the whole, almost the whole chorus. A good portion of the song is clean singing, but it's layered. You can tell, is it all of you doing it? And what decision did you, what was the decision to kind of incorporate that aspect into it? Honestly, it's one of those things, the song, I mean, it's the same kind of instance where Graven Desires had clean vocals.

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It's kind of, it felt like the song, it worked. And it was like, didn't think too hard about it. It was like, okay, if I'm going to put clean vocals, this would be the place. I didn't want to oversaturate the album with clean vocals just because the album itself is so like melodic comparatively. You know, you didn't want people, you know, because you're never going to make everybody happy. But I didn't want, you know, you don't want people being like, oh, this is a complete, you know, like 180 stylistic shift. So the vocals still,

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that and a lot of the riffing like Casket of Shame and stuff. Still keep it like pretty rooted in death metal. But... So is that all you... Bring me back. Yeah, so Mike, is that all you just in layered vocals or is that... Yeah, yeah. Okay, bring it back to Leave the Light Behind. Yeah, with me, I did about three or four tracks of it where there's actually a vocal harmony track that's in there that I think,

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I ended up getting omitted from it but it was kind of going for like a

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almost like discouraged ones catatonia kind of vibe where it has sort of like that sort of somber sort of

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melancholic kind of drawl sort of sort of singing style chorus with it and you know we added some other stuff to it like added kind of a low-end thing to kind of give it a little bit almost even like an October rust vibe and you know just trying to bring bring something in there it felt like it needed to be a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit

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a very somber, melodic vocal line there. And it ended up working out well. I think that song, out of all the songs on there, is the one that a lot of people really gravitate to and mention. So hopefully it means it paid off. And then the lyrical content is about the, I don't know how to pronounce it, the Chiron or whatever it is? Yeah, Chiron. Chiron. Yeah.

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Yeah, essentially, you know, just I don't know, I was thinking about it, where it's like, okay, here you are, you know, this is your job, like your your one job is you just take people from point A to point B, and you cross these, you know, treacherous, you know, rivers and bring them to, you know, this, this land of the dead. And I mean, this is everybody that dies, you know, I mean, it's like, you have to do it over and over and over. So it's just kind of coming from where it's like the monotony of it, where it's just like,

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being almost numb to death in a sense where it's just like it's serving death as a livelihood whereas death now no longer really matters. Your identity as a person doesn't really matter. That's where the chorus kind of suggests. It's like your face is different but essentially we've done this before and you're really no different than anybody else and this and that. There's kind of reference in the lyric wise where it's like those that couldn't pay are

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for centuries, just kind of drifting the shore and swerving in and out.

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It's like he talks about where having the light kind of reveals that.

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You can see the specters and it kind of haunts him.

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He can hear their screams and see them and things like that.

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So sometimes it's even easier to go blindly into it.

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Yeah, and just kind of taking it where it's like, I don't know,

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Just kind of taking,

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trying to take a different novel concept or,

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you know,

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approach to the concept of death,

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I guess.

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Yeah.

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Cause one thing I noticed is that I think on Lords of death and,

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um,

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of tearing the supernatural was,

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it was,

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I,

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I may be wrong on this,

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that it seemed like a lot of the lyrics were more based upon actual

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like stories,

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whether it's Lovecraft or some sort of mythos. And it seems like on this album, you have the Chiron, the guy taking people on the boat, crossing the river Styx and all that stuff. But Ravenous Eyes in the Distance is about the Ward-O-Lac or whatever it's called. Yeah. But am I right in saying that the Leave the Light Behind is the only one that's actually kind of based on

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on some sort of mythos or story. I know Beast Among Us is kind of like about a werewolf to a certain extent, but it's not... It's not really specified, but essentially, yeah. Yeah. So you're asking... Yeah, I guess it just seems like there's a little bit more just like you writing lyrics about concepts rather than actually trying to retell a mythical story or a short story or a Lovecraftian.

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story or something like that.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's I was kind of touching on that in the last one.

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I'm a little I'm a little ADHD right now.

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I feel like just because I've been I've been working my butt off for my job trying to get stuff set up.

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So because, you know, everybody clearly with the coronavirus, we're all working from home or, you know, we're essential workers who are still out there.

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But yeah, so I'm doing that.

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So I was a little ADHD with that.

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But anyway, bringing it back where I was talking about A Beast Among Us and the way that the album was laid out, like, Beast Among Us is the first track. And it incidentally, I think it kind of worked. It's kind of a coincidental thing. But that being really the only song on there that kind of references some sort of horror from the previous thing. So it's kind of like a nod, almost. And it's almost like an unofficial sequel to Deceiver in the Shadows, because it also talks about an unspecified sort of beast creature. So it's almost like kind of a sequel to that sort of

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of leading in. And then from there, it just kind of goes on a completely different path. Like it goes into self schism. It like splits, you know, and then it goes into this different path here, you know, and it works, you know, it works well. You've got the journey into the land of the dead and then, you know, and take it on. I mean, I guess you can draw conclusions if you want. I mean, that's for the listener to infer, I guess. But yeah, I just, it's what was inspiring me at the time. Just the same as like, if you talk to Don and Alex and,

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You know, talk to everybody when they're constructing stuff, you know, and I mean, it's whatever was influencing them at this particular time, you know, that's the way the songs kind of came together. And that was kind of what I was looking for. I was having a hard time, hard time finding inspiration, hard time coming up with any sort of like story that that I wanted to do or anything, you know, just any sort of like horror tale. I really wasn't feeling writing on any sort of like movies or books or,

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and just nothing was really jumping out and

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it was just kind of

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things like that some life events

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that kind of went down and

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that's where you know the eureka

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moment or the light bulb kind of went on and I was

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able to kind of pen most of that

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kind of come from different angles

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and I think it worked out because

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you know this album opens a lot

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of doors and you know

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I like I like

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writing about horror and I like writing about

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you know that kind of stuff but

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It's a pretty cliched trope at this point. You don't want to pigeonhole yourself into it. It's kind of nice. I enjoyed writing it. I felt like it was a lot more emotionally cathartic for me to write this sort of stuff versus the previous album stuff. It was kind of cool. I tried to be a little bit more metaphoric with it.

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The lyrics are definitely a little bit more existential, a little more playing on some classic duality stuff, kind of using space around death. And I don't know, hopefully people enjoy them and I want the listener to kind of build their own identity to it. So I'm kind of hoping with that and I think that you'll have a little more success with that than writing about horror or gore or whatever.

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It's just really typical for death metal in general.

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Well, there's some pretty gory stuff on there, like self-schism.

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I mean, it's pretty gory, if you like.

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Well, yeah, I had to laugh a lot.

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I mean, the idea of, like, whipping yourself into pieces or, like, tearing yourself down the middle, it's like, you know, that's a fairly death metal concept in general.

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I have a couple other questions, but anyone else got some questions?

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I'm done.

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Yeah, so for Alex, Don, and Brent, just out of curiosity, I just really love that filthy-ass, low-end, dirty sound that Temple of Void has. But yeah, there's obviously some of the block. What pedals do you guys use? What's your go-to pedals that you're using?

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to get that sound.

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All right.

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Gear talk.

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Yes.

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How much time do we have?

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Yeah.

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This is all just a big preamble up to talk about pedals.

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Now.

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Yeah.

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Good night, guys.

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I'm good until Monday.

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Hi.

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Well, for me, I keep it pretty simple for pedals.

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Like I go just guitar into my amp.

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I use a 5150 through, uh, it's either, either a Mesa 412 or a Marshall 412 or a PB 412, um, for a combination of two of those, if I'm going to run a full stack, um, you know, but I, I, you know, I use like a chorus and a delay and a flange. Um, but my, uh, like my, like my overall, like, like the heavy, the heavy part of the, of the, of the tone, like that's all,

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That's just all amp and guitar. Oh, wow. You also run a laser light show, though. Oh, that contribution gives credit for that. That is a beat in and of itself. It keeps me sharp, you know? How about you, Alex? Yeah, there's really no mystique to it. I'm in the same boat from a tone perspective as Don.

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I had a dual rectifier as my main amp for I don't know like 15 years or something like that like I just I love the dual rectifier sound I have a dual rectifier full stack as my main rig I've tried over years to pair it with something to see what my favorite pairing has been right now I have an orange so I have an orange stack also I use that for band practice but with Don and his 5150 really all I do like live is just bring my

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He brings his 5150. It's a classic pairing. And same thing in the studio. That's always my primary amp. I go into it with Gibsons. So either an Explorer or a Les Paul. And I use really high output pickups. DiMarzio X2N. So I'm getting all my distortion from the X2N and the head. So a Mesa, a Gibson, and a X2N. That's my signal chain for getting this.

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And from a pedal perspective, I have a lot of pedals, but none of them contribute to the distortion and all that kind of stuff. It's all amp-based and guitar-based. So just like John, I really love using a flanger and a chorus and a phaser and any kind of modulation pedal. I really enjoy modulation. I also have delay and reverb. I've got a ring modulator.

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And I've got a looper, you know, a VY pedal, a tuner, you know, there's like a lot of different things on there. And then I have more in the cupboard and I'll kind of switch things out, you know, here and there. But like when we get on an airplane, for instance, if I just have only room for like a couple of pedals, I'm just going to bring like really like one modulation pedal is like the main thing. So I could probably just bring like a phaser or a flanger. And as long as I have that, that like,

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will give enough depth to the live show. And then all the other stuff is like nice kind of like cherry icing, whatever you want on top. Yeah, and in Botox, we actually did all the sound afterwards in Pro Tools. I recorded everything with, not direct, but I recorded like the guitars and then just did all the effects afterwards. For Lords of Death, we did it inline. For The World That Was, we did it inline.

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So it's all like pedal based effects. But there's really no like, it's not like a secret, you know, like a Les Paul into a dual rectifier, you know, and some high output pickups. Oh, how about you, Brad? Yeah, I'm pretty simple too. I directed my orange base with my BC rich this time.

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the other two albums, but no, there's not a lot of emphasis on it. I think, I mean, Alex, correct me if I'm wrong, a lot of it is we get into the studio, plug and play. It's a pretty live sound. It's what we sound like in rehearsal or live, so I don't know. Every band's going to have their own tone. Yeah, I mean, I think we adjust some things here and there, like when we get into the room, we got the amps set up as opposed to how we might have them set up.

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during rehearsals. But yeah, like Brent said, it's pretty straightforward when we're tracking for the most part.

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Well, I guess there's one thing that we haven't mentioned. And that is we do... So we split our signals when we record. So we've got one signal that's recording the amp. So it's capturing the sounds coming out of the speakers. But we also split the signal so that we can re-amp everything that we're playing to.

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So we'll take our main amp. So my Mesa will come out of my channel. That's like the main sound. But I'll also have everything that I played going into Pro Tools or whatever. And then I can model something and then kind of blend that together. So I can add a little bit of a little kind of magic by kind of mixing things together. And sometimes we'll just do it in Pro Tools. Sometimes we'll just reamp it with like the orange or reamp it with a 50

01:26:16.100 --> 01:26:42.740
1.50 or whatever. And it just gives an extra layer of depth by having that second identical channel being played to kind of fuzz things up if you want or just add an extra layer of texture. But I think at the end of the day, my Mesa is always driving the tone. And what I add for extra effect kind of changes from album to album.

01:26:45.820 --> 01:27:11.240
Yeah, one other, probably two other quick questions. I just noticed today on YouTube that you guys have this extra track that was supposed to be on the demo. I guess it's a bonus track, the Word of Prom, which is, it sounds very different from the rest of the stuff you guys do. Is that, like, was this actually, like, recorded for the demo, but wasn't on the demo? Like, I'm kind of confused by this.

01:27:12.180 --> 01:27:14.900
First song I ever wrote. That was the first song I ever wrote.

01:27:15.120 --> 01:27:15.220
Okay.

01:27:15.340 --> 01:27:44.780
Yeah. And it came out on a, was it Ukrainian label? We did the demo, it was like a four song demo and then it came out on CD as a five song and that was a bonus on there. And yeah, it was the first song we ever wrote. Wait, no, there's only three songs on the demo. There's three songs on the demo. We were recording five because there's also an alternate version of Rotten Solitude.

01:27:45.880 --> 01:28:14.360
We recorded five and we cut two. And we ended up using one as a bonus track and then the other one came back on the full length as a different recording. Like it's got some slight variations. But yeah, I remember that. That was because when I had come into the fold, you guys had three songs and then we finished that out. And then that was one of the first ones.

01:28:14.460 --> 01:28:44.420
And I know you guys were really wanting something more like sword and sorcery and all that. So that was kind of my take on doing that. And you guys, I think, wanted like Conan. And I so I just kind of tried to write something Conan based. And I think it fit lyrically because the song itself is a little bit different. Like the melodic kind of quality to it is a little bit different. It's a little less death metal than the other material. And I think that was just kind of like the idea of people, you know, I think that was a lot of people.

01:28:44.460 --> 01:29:12.880
It was just everybody at that point forming into the adjustment of like collaborating together. You know that fusion you know that first fusion of all the influence. And I think Xanima Gaze was the second track and for me that was like okay that's what we want to do like that's the sound of Temple of Void and that at least from my perspective. Yeah me too. It wasn't Ward of Prong it was Xanima Gaze that's the board.

01:29:14.160 --> 01:29:43.320
Okay, cool. And then the last question I had is, I just noticed this today, but on the back cover of this, this is you, Mike, drawing this. What? Did you draw the back cover? Sorry, this is the... Wait, wait, wait. Back cover of what? Mike's never seen that before. It says the back cover illustration is done by you, Mike.

01:29:44.060 --> 01:30:10.280
On what? The demo? No. Look at the screen. I can't. Hold on. I'm not seeing you. Usually it's the delivering the dead split with Revell and Flesh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was actually some... Okay, the delivering the dead split. Okay. You weren't on my screen for some reason. Oh. Wait, wait. Can you tell me how to get Will off of my screen? Oh, look how Will just keeps showing it.

01:30:14.780 --> 01:30:16.100
Show it a little more way.

01:30:17.130 --> 01:30:17.240
Um,

01:30:18.980 --> 01:30:19.320
dude,

01:30:19.320 --> 01:30:21.060
I had no idea that this is,

01:30:21.200 --> 01:30:22.240
you've just changed my life.

01:30:22.900 --> 01:30:24.020
Somebody send me those commands.

01:30:27.380 --> 01:30:27.580
Okay,

01:30:27.860 --> 01:30:27.940
cool.

01:30:28.160 --> 01:30:28.320
Well,

01:30:28.480 --> 01:30:28.680
all right.

01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:32.240
Now that I know what you're talking about and I can actually see what you were holding up.

01:30:32.310 --> 01:30:32.420
Uh,

01:30:32.700 --> 01:30:32.820
yeah,

01:30:32.820 --> 01:30:33.380
I did that.

01:30:33.500 --> 01:30:33.780
I've,

01:30:34.200 --> 01:30:34.880
I've done some art.

01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:37.600
I did some t-shirt art and stuff like that for temple avoid.

01:30:37.710 --> 01:30:41.820
I did like the embalmers art shirt and I did the rotten solitude shirt.

01:30:42.040 --> 01:30:43.300
And like I did,

01:30:43.410 --> 01:30:43.520
uh,

01:30:43.780 --> 01:31:13.400
some stuff for like, like we did a cycle Las Vegas shirt. Yeah. So like, I'll, you know, I, I try to offer, I, it's just always a time constraint. Cause I'm also like hyper meticulous about it. So like it takes forever, but yeah, that was something that I had that, uh, I had originally done for a flyer. I think when like under gang and, uh, I'm trying to think who else came through neck rod or something, uh, came through Detroit. And it was something that like, I was like, Oh, well it looked cool. I'd like to use it for something, you know, instead of just like,

01:31:13.780 --> 01:31:43.200
a flyer that came and went. So I gave it to Alex because he was looking like, hey, do you have any extra art? Just kind of, you know, so I gave it to him and yeah, we ended up using it for like the back of the Psycho Las Vegas shirt too. But just like a simple top board or some light skull, some other. Because Alex, you do quite a bit of the artwork too. Some touch-ups and the layouts and stuff, correct? Yeah, I do all the layouts and put together all the shirts. I've designed one shirt.

01:31:43.800 --> 01:32:13.260
But otherwise, I mean, I'm a creative director, so it makes sense for me to get all the files ready and do all the design and all that kind of stuff and kind of facilitate that. And, like, there is a little bit of nepotism, I guess, you know? Like, we like to keep it, like, inside, but then, like, my wife drew some filigree and a skull for a quarter in the world that was. And then on Lords of Death, like, Brent's wife was on there.

01:32:13.280 --> 01:32:43.240
She played the Tibetan Singing Bowl. So we'll bring in wives and friends and family. It's a very close-knit, Detroit-oriented, friend-oriented band. Cool. Cool, man. Hey, how was Psycho Las Vegas? That must have been a blast. Oh, it was awesome. She gets to meet some people you love and stuff, and all that kind of thing? Not so much that kind of thing. You just said, well, yeah. Cool. We didn't get invited to that.

01:32:43.320 --> 01:33:12.380
those parties. Yeah. Okay. I understood. I understood, but still, I bet it was a blast. I mean, it was incredible. Yeah. Yeah. It was awesome. So cool. Should do a beer check and a t-shirt check, George. T-shirt check. Let's do shirt check first. All right. We used to not tell people, but we realized we all put on different metal shirts. So you guys got to get in on this. No, wait, wait, what? We have to change? No, no, no, no. No, just no shirt check. This is an audio show. So we tell people what shirts we're wearing. It's a little weird, but hey.

01:33:13.280 --> 01:33:42.740
All right, we'll start with, I'm just going to go down the rows here, so we'll start with John up in my left corner. John, what do you got? I'm wearing a Primordial shirt. All right. I'm wearing a Coronavirus World Tour shirt. Matt? I've got King Dunnan from the most recent tour. Nice. God damn. Will? I'm sporting my new Temple of Void shirt that I got a couple weeks ago in the mail. Yes.

01:33:46.500 --> 01:33:47.680
We're in Drown.

01:33:49.060 --> 01:33:52.360
Is that the same Russian guy that we were just talking about?

01:33:53.540 --> 01:33:53.740
Oh yeah.

01:33:54.640 --> 01:33:55.140
That's his other band.

01:33:55.140 --> 01:33:55.580
Oh it is.

01:33:55.620 --> 01:33:56.040
No shit.

01:33:56.500 --> 01:33:56.680
Yeah.

01:33:56.840 --> 01:33:58.380
The Torno Ork guy.

01:33:59.280 --> 01:33:59.560
All right.

01:33:59.620 --> 01:34:00.220
Jay, what do you got?

01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:07.300
The Cattle Recapitation came with the pre-order record shirt.

01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:08.140
Cool.

01:34:08.420 --> 01:34:08.660
Alex.

01:34:10.820 --> 01:34:11.280
Crips.

01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:12.920
From the last record.

01:34:12.940 --> 01:34:41.640
That was on some lists. Oh yeah, that was on my list. Condamnation, circulation. It was awesome. Mike, we know we can read it, but go ahead and say it. Yeah, Razor's Executioner song, Hot Metal. Awesome. Jason. Yeah. I have my Iron City workout shirt on. Nice. Designed by Alex. Oh, really cool. Nice. Yeah, actually I did. Cool. Don.

01:34:42.960 --> 01:35:09.540
The Morbid Angel Worldbeater shirt from their last tour with Incantation and Latane. I was actually on the tour. I got to do sound for both Morbid Angel and Incantation. Awesome, dude. That's cool. Yeah. And Brent. Repping Slugathor here. Slugathor. Wow. I don't know that band. Looks like we'll be getting the Google machine out later. Yeah.

01:35:12.960 --> 01:35:42.600
Iron City. Awesome. Do you guys all go to the same gym? Just Alex and I. Yeah. I've been for the props on the new record in the thanks list. I don't know if you guys noticed when my kids came in.

01:35:42.960 --> 01:36:12.420
My son was wearing his suffocation shirt. Metal kids. T-shirt checking my son. Absolutely. And beer check as well. Cool. And we're going to go back through here. John, what do you got? All right. So my first beer, both first ones from a local brewery, Ocelot Brewing, and the beer,

01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:13.860
is a,

01:36:14.050 --> 01:36:14.140
uh,

01:36:15.560 --> 01:36:16.520
what does this say on here?

01:36:16.940 --> 01:36:17.000
Anyway,

01:36:17.220 --> 01:36:18.060
it's called hell's awaits.

01:36:18.340 --> 01:36:19.100
It's a hell's beer.

01:36:20.060 --> 01:36:20.200
Uh,

01:36:20.520 --> 01:36:20.800
and yeah,

01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:23.400
I think it's a Slayer reference and then,

01:36:23.450 --> 01:36:23.540
uh,

01:36:24.100 --> 01:36:24.460
yeah,

01:36:24.580 --> 01:36:25.300
I'm pretty sure it is.

01:36:25.420 --> 01:36:25.580
Yeah.

01:36:26.180 --> 01:36:28.020
And then I had a second beer,

01:36:28.100 --> 01:36:30.340
which I'm drinking right now from three notch,

01:36:30.490 --> 01:36:32.060
which is a Virginia brewery.

01:36:32.280 --> 01:36:33.460
It's called King of clouds.

01:36:34.240 --> 01:36:36.800
I'm not big on the new England IPAs anymore.

01:36:36.980 --> 01:36:37.620
Cause I'm sick of them,

01:36:37.620 --> 01:36:38.760
but this one's actually decent.

01:36:39.420 --> 01:36:39.580
It's a,

01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:39.800
well,

01:36:39.840 --> 01:37:09.100
It's juicy, whatever that means. It's the thing. All right. I'm still working on my six to love flying dog, doggy star. Matt, what do you got? I've got a Surly Abrasive. They're flagship WIPA. Cool. You know, speaking of Surly, I just realized that I put my darkness in the fridge to drink tonight, and I totally fucking forgot about it. Oh, shit. Well, it's still there, isn't it?

01:37:12.940 --> 01:37:39.640
Your son didn't drink it, did he? Or is your fridge like two blocks away or something? Go get your fucking beer. Beer's not quarantined, Will. No, it's more of me going up at nearly 11 o'clock at night to get a 22-ounce high-alcohol bomber in front of my wife. It's that last word. It's that last word. Well, what have you had? Oh, I, uh, so,

01:37:40.900 --> 01:38:08.340
I had my first beer in a month yesterday. So it's still the same thing. I had the Atlas Dance of Days and then the good Dr. Lang. We haven't mentioned the good doctor in a while, but for the old ox, the hoppy place. So basically two different IPAs. And when you say doctor, you got to give us all a chance to say. Doctor. Doctor. Doctor. Doctor. Will, could you just tell your wife that you want to show us the bottle?

01:38:11.160 --> 01:38:39.080
I mean, there's a slight chance she's in bed right now. Like, like, we don't believe you that you have a darkness. Use your soldier step skills. Do some reconnaissance. You're like, it was always empty. What are you talking about? You said the Minnesota guy doesn't believe you that you have a bottle of darkness. That's the, that's the equivalent of saying, Hey grandma, can we, if you bought a motorcycle, we could both ride it. Markisan what do you got? I drink.

01:38:39.820 --> 01:39:09.100
If you're still breathing by a droid theory, which is a hazy imperial IPA, as you can see. They ship all the way to you in Hawaii? Yeah. Well, they don't normally ship, but they started shipping because of everything going on in the pandemic. Nice. But I switched to the ninth labor of Hercules, the belt of Hippolyta from Brimminghorn, which is a traditional mead aged in oak barrels. That's pretty, pretty damn good. Nice. And Jay, I'm assuming,

01:39:12.020 --> 01:39:35.800
It's almost 8 o'clock, man. You better get started. No, I start when I start playing video games. I'm trying to get through Doom Eternal and you cannot play that. Well, actually, I can't get through a certain spot, so I should probably not start drinking later after that. Alex, you drinking anything? Yeah, I'm actually going to really, I hope everyone's sitting down in TOV because I have two beverages.

01:39:41.940 --> 01:40:09.740
Yeah, well, yeah, I have three if you include the water. So I just finished some Viking blood, which is hands down my favorite alcoholic beverage in the world. It's a mead. I love it. My favorite. And then my fantastic wife just brought over a cocktail, which is, I think it's an old fashioned. I'm not open to my cocktail names, but it's got bullet rye in it and other things. It's an old fashioned. You got a pretty classy, big ass ice cube there too.

01:40:09.840 --> 01:40:10.580
Yeah.

01:40:11.120 --> 01:40:12.320
Is that like the big round thing?

01:40:12.840 --> 01:40:12.980
Yeah.

01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:14.660
4802, dog.

01:40:16.360 --> 01:40:21.600
Alex, have you had the GL from Vikings Blood, the ginger one that they put out?

01:40:22.340 --> 01:40:22.720
Yes.

01:40:23.380 --> 01:40:24.800
I've had like three.

01:40:25.080 --> 01:40:31.800
There's one in like a black, a white, and like a golden color.

01:40:32.300 --> 01:40:33.700
So three different bottles.

01:40:34.680 --> 01:40:36.700
Yeah, it's the gold one that I'm thinking of.

01:40:37.180 --> 01:40:39.220
Have you had the brimming horn that I'm drinking?

01:40:39.620 --> 01:40:39.700
No.

01:40:41.680 --> 01:40:43.320
That is the meat right there.

01:40:43.700 --> 01:40:44.940
In general, have you had their stuff?

01:40:45.460 --> 01:40:45.580
No.

01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:49.080
And they do a lot of collaborations with metal bands.

01:40:49.200 --> 01:40:51.640
So if you're like me, you should probably talk to them.

01:40:52.500 --> 01:40:56.880
One of the best things, best alcoholic beverages I ever drank,

01:40:57.000 --> 01:40:59.380
and I think this goes for most of us,

01:40:59.580 --> 01:41:02.460
they did a collaboration with Incantation called Goat's Blood.

01:41:03.280 --> 01:41:04.080
It's unbelievable.

01:41:05.380 --> 01:41:07.100
So they're based out of Milton, Delaware,

01:41:07.420 --> 01:41:09.080
and you can get in on their clothes.

01:41:12.320 --> 01:41:15.420
So here's the thing though. I'm not like a mead

01:41:16.020 --> 01:41:22.120
fan. Like that's not my jam. Just Viking blood I think is the most incredible beverage, but I don't like all

01:41:22.220 --> 01:41:39.140
meat. So how does brimming horn compare to Viking blood in particular? It depends. Well, I mean, brimming horn makes a lot of different kinds of mead. If you're drinking your Viking blood, you like a really thick, strong traditional mead, but they do have that brimming horn. You just have to not

01:41:40.400 --> 01:41:41.640
I don't like as much.

01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:44.540
I'm trying it down.

01:41:44.870 --> 01:41:44.960
Cool.

01:41:45.160 --> 01:41:45.360
Yeah.

01:41:45.460 --> 01:41:46.560
Viking blood is one of my favorites.

01:41:48.120 --> 01:41:50.200
I haven't had it in a while because I've been getting the brimming horn.

01:41:50.270 --> 01:41:51.980
They have a subscription service.

01:41:52.070 --> 01:41:53.780
So I get it sent here to Hawaii.

01:41:56.260 --> 01:41:56.580
Awesome.

01:41:57.420 --> 01:41:58.260
I'm going to plug my phone in.

01:42:02.340 --> 01:42:02.460
Well,

01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:03.800
Mike looks to have stepped away.

01:42:03.940 --> 01:42:04.380
Oh,

01:42:04.620 --> 01:42:04.900
there he is.

01:42:04.970 --> 01:42:06.360
I had to go grab a different beer.

01:42:07.420 --> 01:42:35.940
I was, you guys are going to make fun of me. I was drinking a Pabst Blue Ribbon. They were voted best in 1893 and they're still milking that. To be fair, there were only four people in 1893. By all the population has grown. So yeah, I have, I'm about to pop this bad boy open here. It's a Sierra Nevada Torpedo Extra IPA.

01:42:36.420 --> 01:42:46.040
I like I like I like craft beer I also like craft beer so you know right now I'm

01:42:46.060 --> 01:42:51.440
talking what I'm limited to in my fridge so you're talking to guys who'll drink anything yeah it's cool

01:42:52.790 --> 01:42:57.280
uh Jason no I'm just talking up front like I'm some sort of beer connoisseur I know you guys you know and

01:42:57.360 --> 01:43:06.400
everything and Atlas Brew Works and all that actually I still have my growler from when we played there I have that on display on my fridge so you're only you're only pretentious when it comes to

01:43:06.440 --> 01:43:07.100
Lyrics then, right?

01:43:12.340 --> 01:43:14.380
Well, at least I know those because I wrote them.

01:43:16.360 --> 01:43:16.780
Jason.

01:43:17.980 --> 01:43:20.240
I just did the Vikings one as well.

01:43:20.400 --> 01:43:25.300
And I'm on my third glass of Maker's Mark 46, actually.

01:43:26.580 --> 01:43:28.620
I recognize the red wax.

01:43:29.380 --> 01:43:29.860
Yeah.

01:43:30.020 --> 01:43:30.660
But I didn't.

01:43:30.660 --> 01:43:33.720
But it's, you know, it looks like that's the 46 meaning what?

01:43:35.060 --> 01:43:36.160
It was for my birthday.

01:43:36.340 --> 01:44:04.640
So I have no idea what the 46 even means. Okay. Did you turn 46? I think it's about seven years ago. All right. I'm 49 myself. No shame there. Don, I haven't seen you drinking anything. No beer for me, but I do have a bond full of weed in my living room. So that's about three seconds. All right. Brent.

01:44:06.340 --> 01:44:34.100
And I was going to say, Don and I are more kindred spirits in that regard. So that's right. What is it? Yellowstone bourbon. Oh, right now. I thought it said Yellowstone when I, but I felt like an idiot. I thought it'd be an idiot if I said it. All right. Cool. Bourbon. Haven't had that one. Nice. All right. All right. Let's like this candle. Yes, indeed. Now, before we get into the news, our last episode was episode 100, which was obviously a milestone.

01:44:34.200 --> 01:45:03.840
And we did our top 50 albums for the first 50 years of heavy metal, one for each year. And John did a little statistical analysis for us on all the picks that we all made for that. John, did you want to mention anything about that? Yeah, I completely forgot we were going to talk about this. So I'll wing it here for you real quick. Let's see. It's no surprise that Black Sabbath got the most selections.

01:45:04.160 --> 01:45:34.140
from us both by the total number of albums and the number of individual albums i think we selected nine total albums different ones from them on our list and i think they showed up 29 times so we had 300 picks so roughly 10 of our picks were black Sabbath picks which makes sense but just real quick i'll run down uh maiden and death were the next two that finished with 15 total

01:45:34.220 --> 01:46:02.620
selections on our list. Followed by Priest and Slayer at 13 and 10. So it's the usual suspects, you know, for the total number of selections. Well, you don't get to be the best by sucking, you know. Right, exactly. Exactly. And then for total number of albums, Sabbath, like I said, had nine. Death showed up six times. Six different albums showed up, which is pretty amazing when you think that they only had seven releases.

01:46:05.300 --> 01:46:14.200
which one wasn't uh spiritual healing so uh slayer thanks to will showed up with six albums

01:46:17.320 --> 01:46:21.260
not true i mean we had a number of other selections but i think will had the most slayer on there

01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:27.800
uh and then priest with five and then thanks to george sentence it actually showed up all together

01:46:27.880 --> 01:46:57.260
with five picks. Nice. So just real quick, everyone's top album or top band was Black Sabbath except for me and I went with Opeth. So George had Sabbath and Sentence with five albums each. So there's that. We had only three albums that all six of us selected, which is pretty good when you consider all the choices we had.

01:46:57.300 --> 01:47:27.200
But two of them we had no choice because there wasn't really anything else that came out. Right. Those years. So in 1970, 1973, we all selected Sabbath, Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath. We all selected Judas Priest Dane Class for 1978. And then the only one that really stood out in this selection was in 82. We all took Number of the Beast from Maiden. And then we only had two other albums that got five picks from all of us.

01:47:27.280 --> 01:47:56.960
One was the first year, 1970, Black Sabbath. We'll went with Paranoid, which is a perfectly good pick. We all went with the... Yeah. I think the word is Splitter, but okay. Splitter. I think it's smarter. And then in 1971, everyone took Master of Reality. I went with Led Zeppelin IV. So that's it. I mean, we could dive in deeper if you wanted to, but there's no reason to.

01:47:57.300 --> 01:48:24.880
Yeah, it's not the same as the top 40. Oh, the only thing actually I will bring up is that apparently Matt had the same number of picks as Jay and Will at 19. So literally 40% of your picks were the same as theirs, which is, I don't know what's going on there, but. Well, we have our own little podcast on the side you guys don't know about. See, we'll talk about it in episode 102.

01:48:28.380 --> 01:48:46.600
So I thought they'd be completely different. I thought we'd have a lot of the same picks, but it ended up probably pretty much going the way I thought it would, which is we all had our own picks in certain years. We all had the same ones. So cool. Thanks for crunching those numbers. Yeah. All right. Let's move on to the news.

01:48:59.239 --> 01:49:26.380
A few episodes ago, we mentioned that Will Carroll of Death Angel had the coronavirus and wasn't doing well, but he has apparently recovered and is back. He's recovering. Recovering, yes, but he's well enough. He's doing like the radio show on, what the hell is that called? The fuck was it? Gimme Radio? Gimme Radio. There you go. He was in a coma for 12 days. Yeah.

01:49:27.300 --> 01:49:56.720
to walk and eat again. And he's probably still in the process of doing that. And doesn't expect to be well enough to play drums until late, late summer. I mean, he's really got to go through some rehab, that guy. I don't, I think I brought it up last time, but read his story, man. He tells the story of what he went through. Oh yeah. He talks about like having an out of body experience where he went to hell and he was punished for sloth and was like a job of the hut type character. He's vomiting blood.

01:49:58.220 --> 01:50:26.020
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then he came out a kind of reformed man, quit smoking and drinking and the whole thing. And, you know, wow. Good for him. Yeah. He's in a fucking coma when he woke up. He didn't know he was in San Francisco. They wouldn't, they didn't tell him much because they didn't want him to go into shock. I've been hearing that, uh, I read an article anyway, that, uh, people that have been, uh, on the respirators have, uh, like some sort of like post respirator dementia.

01:50:26.780 --> 01:50:29.640
going on where they're really confused.

01:50:31.330 --> 01:50:32.000
And that was kind of scary.

01:50:33.340 --> 01:50:34.140
Yeah, it's true.

01:50:34.700 --> 01:50:34.760
Yeah.

01:50:35.420 --> 01:50:36.440
Have you seen some of that?

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I mean, no, not post-recovery, but it's, I mean, it's just, it happens.

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It's true.

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Wow.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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Yuck.

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All right.

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So a couple more, actually, several of these next items are related.

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There's a few albums that have been pushed back because of the coronavirus.

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Enslaved moved theirs back, Carcass of course, much to our dismay, Benediction and Lamb of God have all pushed back their albums because of the pandemic. So no loss on the Lamb of God, that's fine, they can keep pushing that one. I mentioned earlier and I'm sincere, I listened to Heartwork, well actually and I listened to the whole Carcass catalog over the last few days but then a couple albums twice on two days.

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Long story short, I was listening to them and I was like, God damn it. That really kind of ticked me off. But it does occur to me that these delays really are based on that the manufacturing stopped. They don't want to put out the electronic version until they can also have it to sell hard copy because I'm sure they're afraid nobody will buy it when it comes out if they don't. Not nobody, but you know what I mean. So. What a fucking car though. My list will still hold a spot for carcass this year. I agree with you. I'm sick of saying it. I say it every year. No, no, no. But to quote you exactly, you said it's going on my list whether it comes out this year.

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or not. I'm with you, buddy. Yeah. Yeah. And among all the other concert and tour casualties, Valken 2020 has been canceled. Jay and I both had tickets to that. Yeah. There it is. The useless ticket. Yeah. Here's the thing. You guys may have tickets for 2021 reserved for you. Yeah. The way things are going, I don't even know that 2021 is going to happen. Yeah. So I don't know. I'm going to be sad if I can't go in 21. Yeah.

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I do have something to chime in on this because

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Dan DeForce is the guy who books your shows, right?

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Guys from TV?

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Yeah.

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And it was interesting because I think he wrote some sort of article.

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I don't know what it was for, like Metal Injection, Metal Sucks, or I don't know,

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whoever posted it.

01:52:46.770 --> 01:52:49.800
But he was talking about, hey, you know, I don't think there's going to be any shows

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until the fall or something like that.

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And then two days later, he emails me.

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Like, wait, maybe you just write something about no shows for like,

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like until the fall or maybe next year. So anyway, it was just, well, you know,

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the thing is though, is if like no one has a crystal ball,

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we don't know how this is going to play out.

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So if we don't take the chance to at least book the shows, you know,

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then we'll, what happens if we could have played them and we'll fuck.

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No, no, no, no. It was just more of like the guy who was the booker for your shows. Yeah. Like, he's like, I don't think there's going to be a show. Then he hits me up by email the next day, like two days later. That's probably me saying, hey, well, what the hell? You know, we got these shows or not. Good for you. There you go. Yeah. I mean, I really hope it happens because I can't wait to have you guys play Atlas again. Yeah. But I mean, it makes sense. Just try it. Roll the dice. You know, if it works out.

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It's much better to have them on the book and not be able to play them than not have them on the book and then opportunity. Truth. Yeah. And both Ticket Bastard and Live Nation, which are, as you might have guessed by my pronunciation, are not real popular on this podcast, have started refunding concert tickets, of which I have like a half dozen. And I hope it hurts them because fuck them.

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They're only refunding if the show's canceled or officially rescheduled. Yeah. While I feel for everybody other than them, those two can go fuck themselves. So give me my money back. Well, doesn't Live Nation own Ticketmaster? One of them. I know they're related. Yeah. Some sort of incest going on there. Yeah. Jay, I think you mentioned this next one. Do you want to talk about it?

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So let's see. Yeah, sure. That's it. Put this one at my door. David Coverdale has announced that he will likely retire in 2021, which means he's retiring now. You know, I, that's how I turn years too late. Yeah, I exactly do. Well, first off, I, I, I'm not, you know, there, there's an era of David Coverdale that was great and even important. Let's not forget he was in deep purple and that, and then also slide it in. And the early white snake records are good fucking records.

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I'm with you. I'll back you up on that. I think David Coverdale is a great fan. He is. He is. And the song Sail Away on Burn. Fuck, he's so good on that. That's a good tune. But we really wanted to talk about this story because there's a couple things that we see going on very possibly in the industry here. And that is that, unfortunately, this is going to hurt some, I think, more than small bands, medium-level bands who really are in a position where they're at least

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to pay their rent. This is going to be tough on those people. And I mean pay their rent through music. But it's going to be just as hard on a whole generation of guys who are like 62 to 64 right now. They're close to retirement anyway. I think Ozzy's been a waste for a long time, but I don't think we'll ever see Ozzy do an arena show again. I predict that. Because you push this out two years, his health gets a little worse and that's the end of it. And I'm not saying that lightly. So it's a thing we think is

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a very real possibility. I mean, Rob Halford is in his mid-60s, you know. Jay, and there's one band that's going to be playing five years from now. It'll be their 60th anniversary. Did anybody, did anybody, they just released a new song. Did anybody hear that? I didn't listen to it. No, but I had Stones tickets that are now useless. Oh, you did? Don't worry, George. They're going to play a few more tours. Don't worry. Or at least Keith Richards will. Which, by the way, I don't,

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I don't say that lightly by dancing on anybody's bad misfortune. It's just that's how big the effect is on this thing. And we're going to have some people we have seen perform for the last time. Let's put it that way, even though they hadn't planned on it being that way. Well, Coverdale had a lot of physical issues going on before this because didn't you have surgery to replace his knees? Yeah, and he can't sing anymore either. So that's kind of an important process. I mean, Coverdale is like 70 or 71, isn't he? He looks fucking good though, doesn't he? Extensions, I guess.

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In any case, I kind of like him as a guy. I don't know why, but I see these, maybe they're on Blabbermouth, like these video updates he does every once in a while. He seems like a real nice guy. And he was in some stuff I really like from back in the day. But in any case, the overall theme there being Ozzy won't be performing live anymore. That's my prediction. Can I just make note? Will, did you go get the darkness? I did. Nice. I went upstairs to,

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just to do a reconnaissance.

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And she's in bed.

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So I'm like,

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yeah,

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she'll probably notice like,

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Hey,

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where was that giant bottle?

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You moved all this stuff from like the refrigerator.

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So you can put this giant bottle of beer.

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Now,

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where is that bottle now?

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So,

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well,

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when I was a kid,

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the refrigerator was just outside close to my parents' bedroom.

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And my dad always had ice cream in there that we weren't supposed to fucking eat.

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So if you went up there and my parents were in bed watching TV and you got some other

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refrigerator,

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you always had to shout,

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I'm just getting water.

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Because inevitably somebody was going to be like, you're not eating that fucking ice cream.

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So I'm wondering if you have to do that when you go to your fridge.

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I'm just getting water.

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I'm just getting gin.

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It's just beer, honey.

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I think Will just did a stealth mission, but that would work too.

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Yeah, good man, Will.

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Wilderun, which is a very popular band on this podcast, has finally signed a deal with Century Media, and they're going to be re-releasing their last album, Veil of Imagination. That's one of those bands that we're like, how are these guys not signed anywhere? Because these guys are freaking amazing, and it's finally come to pass. Wilderun? Wilderun. I mean, of all the unsigned bands out there, I think Wilderun was the most baffling to me.

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They're pretty pro. They're pretty pro. They're a veil of imagination made a bunch of our lists last year, so I'm glad they have a label to help get their music out to a wider audience. Central Media is a pretty big label, so they're taking a giant leap in terms of visibility of them. They need some reach. And our last news item, Markisan has apparently corrected me on this. It's listed as previously unreleased Death Concert from 1987.

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Released, but Marc Hassan tells me that is actually 1988? Yeah, I mean, I think they just made a mistake, because when they put out the press release, it said 87, but if you actually go to the band campaign, it's a 1988 show. But it's a cool release, man. They're doing the Death Estate and Relapse. They're doing a series of these non-analog shows that touch upon all the eras of death. So it looks like they're doing it monthly, because they kicked it off in March with a Montreal show from 95. The audio quality on that one's pretty bad.

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There's just something cool about hearing a show that sounds like you're actually at it. I don't know if they're going to just keep doing it every month. I haven't seen what the release schedule is. It's a series. It's a series and I don't think it was. It seemed like it came out right when the lockdown started and I was wondering if it was a reaction to the lockdown. I don't think it was, but it might have been. I thought it was, Jay. Okay, there you go. There was a reason that was in my head. But anyway, I think there's at least three or four or five more coming. Has anyone seen Death Locked?

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Live? Nope. No. Nope. Am I really the only one? I've seen half a death live. I saw Cynic. When did you see him? Symbolic Tour. Symbolic Tour. No, no, sorry. Individual Thought Patterns. Wow. Yeah, it was like 1993, I think. That's awesome. At the Mad Monk in North Carolina, which was just outside

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Wilmington or was in Wilmington, which was just south of Camp Lejeune where I was stationed at. Looch went down there with me. Looch. Yeah, that was a phenomenal show. I have a weird trivia question I'm going to throw at George. Just speaking of who have you seen them live? George and John and ask you, who did you see last year? An individual musician that was playing with a band you saw that was on Rainbow's Down to Earth album. He's on Ozzy Osbourne's Blizzard of Oz album. He's a bunch of other

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He was in Deep Purple for a little while, so on and so forth. Do you know who this is? Sorry. The fact that John left, like, threw me, so I, like, missed part of that. Oh, okay. Well, anyway, long story short, I hadn't realized until after we saw Deep Purple that Don Airey was playing keyboards. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. That was a big deal. He's on everything. Yeah. That didn't even register with me. Oh, yeah, no, I was cognizant of that at the show.

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I almost wore my deep purple shirt tonight too. All right. Well, let's move on to new releases then. First up, we have the new abysmal dawn album, phylogenesis. This is their fifth album. They're an LA death metal band. And I freaking love this album. I don't know if anybody else checked this out. And I thought it was a good technical death album. That's not my preferred

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I definitely admire the song craft and the skill on that one

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all right

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it's too bad I checked it out tech death is sometimes it's

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like there's some band like some tech death bands like brain drill I love and other ones I'm like

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it's not I mean it's not like it's arch spire you know it's not I don't even I mean it is

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It's techy, but it's not like overly techy like Archspire or any of those bands. I just thought it was just kind of, you know. No, I mean, I listened to it. I liked it. It didn't blow me away, though. All right. That's fair. Next up, we have the new Catatonia album. City Burials is their 12th album. I got about halfway through the first song. I really want to. I heard it's great. That's the best I've heard. I like it. Yeah, I think there's some great riffs on there. Harmony's on there.

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The production's gorgeous. I think Jonas' vocals sound way more varied and alive than maybe I've ever heard him sing. I've always liked Catatonia, but I kind of greeted the last couple albums with a bit of indifference just because I felt like I knew what they were going to bring to the table. But City Burials has a lot going on, way more than I expected, and it feels like a reinvigoration to me of the band. So I was surprised, and I think it's a really good album.

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Cool.

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Next up we have the new Chemist EP, Doomed Heavy Metal. They were just on our last episode. And that's a pretty cool EP. You know, the capstone, I think, is the cover of Dio's Rainbow in the Dark. Yeah, have you guys, the guys in Temple Boy, have you heard, do you guys know Chemist and have you heard this cover of Rainbow in the Dark? I don't think so. I mean, I know Chemist.

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I haven't heard this. You should check it out. It's not many bands can really cover Dio, but I think they did a pretty damn good job. Yeah, I agree. I enjoyed it. Yeah, they have their Decibel Flexi single on their Empty Throne and then Conversation of Death, which was from the split with Spirit of Drift, which is also a cover of an old folk song, really. And the live tracks on there are really good, especially the Bereaved

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I like that one quite a bit next we have of human bondage will do you want to talk about these two at all you're the one that yeah a virtual buddy of mine Mike Klassen who is in culted up in Winnipeg Canada this is this is his old band and this is all unreleased material the new the new album that they came out with and so I

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I don't know if it may be like 10, 8, 10 years old and then it just never saw the light of day and so they finally released it in 2020. So, you know, it's pretty damn good. It's like this blackened death sort of kind of like thrashy. It's kind of like it's a little bit of everything, but it's pretty good. I like it a lot. Cool. Check it out. Yeah, they have a little two song EP. I forget what it's called. It is called.

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Yeah, pandemic 2020. So I don't know. I'm assuming that's old stuff too. But yeah, of human bondage. Check it. That's all band camp. So check it out. Just released. What was interesting, I don't know if this is normal, but I think it was released on like Google Music and Spotify and all these other venues before it ever went on band camp. Okay.

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Next up, we have the new Aranti Pazuzu album, which title I will butcher, Mesterin Kinsey. I don't. John, you got anything for me? Any guesses? I know the English. That's pretty close. All right. This is their fifth album. They're a Finnish psych black metal band, and they are truly something special. I know Markisan doesn't think this album is particularly special. I mean, I know this band's a favorite here on the Metalhead.

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I have a hard time getting into them. Their experimental genre straddling style is really in my wheelhouse. And I like bits and pieces of this album. But I never like whole songs. So since we've gotten the promo, I've listened to it 10 times on headphones just to try to see if I can magically connect to this album. But it's just not happening for me. It happened for me when I saw them at MDF with John. That was an incredible set. And I've been a fan since. I fucking dig it. I think it's great.

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Was it the music or was it John? I'm never going to forget John was like, you're going to like it. Well, I made him like it. Their MDF set, they literally just completely destroyed Ram's head and people who had never heard them that I was friends with came up to me afterwards and was like, do you know who that band was? That's like the best thing I've ever seen live. And I'm not joking. Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah. I liked it. I liked it.

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this new album a lot Warren our good friend who we mention all the time that we always see at shows and drink a lot of beer with he and I saw them with uh horrendous and instant arc I don't know last year and they played half of the new album which I had to I had a feeling because I didn't know any of the songs and it was awesome then and I loved the new album too so is anybody else avoid guys have you guys played uh Maryland Death Fest uh yeah we played the pre-fest

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What year was that? 17, I think. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I was supposed to play this year. That ain't happening. Were you supposed to play in Acid Witch? Yeah, Acid Witch. Oh, yeah. Acid Witch played in 2011, too. But, yeah, we were supposed to play this year. But, yeah, it's canceled, clearly. Are they moving you to next year? I know they were talking about that.

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I think they're going to try and keep the lineup the same. I don't know. It'd be cool to do it with Temple of Void again. Do it like nice proper. Rams said wouldn't complain about that. That'd be cool. Yeah. That'd be awesome. All right. Next up we have Shards of Humanity and their second album Cold Logic. They're a Memphis death metal band and this was the first I'd heard of them and I kind of dig it. I think John did you like it?

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I liked it's it's got kind of a deathy thrash feel I thought oh yeah it's cool I mean it's not excessive it's only what I think like 38 39 minutes maybe I'm wrong 40 minutes it's cool I like it it breezes by it's punchy fun death metal with thrash and then there's a little bit of prog in there I think and yeah I enjoyed spinning that one it's really good cool and I know you like the next one Markisan Ulcerate Stare Into Death and Be Still

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the death metal band. Yeah, they should have named this album Be Still My Beating Heart because I'm completely smitten with Ulcerade after listening to this. It's just massive. It's flawless to me. Atmospheric Death Record. It's definitely an album of your candidates. Ulcerade is great. I haven't listened to much of the new record yet, but their other records are really good. No, the new ones. I'm really liking this one a lot. I had no idea they were from New Zealand. For some reason, I thought they were Polish.

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I can see that because I'll tell you what some of the best metal is coming out of Poland lately I mean aside from behemoth and you know aside from the children singing crap but uh like every time I can't let it go Jay what do you what do you call that thing like uh when you when you have a meeting at work and you have like their running item or something what do you call that running agenda item running agenda that's one of your running

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Yeah, so a black album and children singing on the new behemoth. I'm going to get this wrong, but isn't Dope Lord from Poland too? Yeah, Dope Lord. There was another band that I really fucking loved from Poland. Vader. Yeah, Vader. Oh, yeah. We got that new promo, didn't we? We did. I haven't listened to that one. I love the last Vader album. The last one was an EP too, wasn't it? Oh, no, they did an EP. That's right. I'm talking about the

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Yeah, I think it was like the EP was like last year. It was really good. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, they don't they don't step too far to left and right, but you always get something you want. Yeah, a good time for the family. And our last new release, Warbringers sixth album, Weapons of Tomorrow. I've been hit or miss on these guys over the years, but I kind of dig this one. And I wanted to point out that the the last song on the album, which I should have pulled up ahead of time,

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I think it's called

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Fuck me

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There it is

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Glorious End

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Did anybody listen to this and get to that last song?

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Because this song is so

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like thrash

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man o' war

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It's like Defender

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It's all about him talking

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about his dad and there's like a

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you know, it's not

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Orson Welles, but there's like a dad

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speech thing that gets interspersed within the song. And he's like, and it's all about, you know, battle and dying and, and shit like that. Wilson Wells would be pretty hard to get right now, to be fair. Yes. Yes. Point being that I don't believe it was anybody of that caliber. I know. I know. I want to add one more new release here. Far out of alphabetical order, but let's let us not forget that Dancing Sings Elvis came out. Right. Or maybe we should. I haven't listened to it yet. It's not.

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It's not bad, actually. I listen to a couple tracks. I kind of like it, yeah. I mean, it probably sounds more like Danzig than Danzig does. It's pretty straightforward interpretation. It is, but with a lot of echoey stuff on it and stuff to make it sort of sound like a 1950s hot rod kind of Frankenstein. Is it heavy or is it old? No, it's not heavy at all. Wow. Okay, I gotta hear this. I would say it was minimalist, actually. Yeah, there's no heaviness. Zero heaviness. I mean, does he pull it off? Well, does he? Because my main concern would be to his vocal.

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sound tired.

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No,

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because they sound real tired on the last one.

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They did,

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but he actually sounds good on this.

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He does.

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On that last one was absolute crap.

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Everything since dancing core has been absolute crap.

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By five different people.

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Yeah.

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Five different stints in rehab or so.

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I don't know what the fuck was going on that last album.

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There was some,

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there was some good songs.

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And then there was like,

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what the fuck is going on now?

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But the prediction,

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the production made it unlistenable.

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Yeah.

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Incidentally, they're starting to come around and say new misfits music is possible. So, you know, don't do it. I don't do it. I don't think they should either. They're just trying to get paid. That's all they're trying to do. You can do nostalgia tours until you are literally like Rolling Stones territory. Like you could, I mean, we just talked about it. Like you can do that. Don't put out new material. Like don't take that legacy.

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By the way, I did go to one, they did play here last year, and it was fucking awesome, dude. I have no complaints about that shit, but I totally agree with you on the new music thing. I mean, whatever, I want to have faith and say that they can do it. No, they can't. The last Danzy album, I liked it, just the production was terrible. It was awful. There was a couple songs I liked, but it was shit. But now the one before that was actually pretty good. It didn't have great production either. It was called Red Dead's Side by Oath or something like that. That was actually a pretty good record.

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I really because

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I think you're a fan on here

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I'm saying rock boy

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his voice has been dog shit

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since like 1995

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but go listen to this Elvis thing dude

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he's pretty good on this

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no he doesn't

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he sounds terrible

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I like it when people call me out in real time

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like that that's good

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I'm a fan of yours now

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you're like fuck you dude that's sex

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now I want to listen to the whole thing now

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because I'm a liar

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I just checked out a couple tracks. His voice, it's like so paper thin. It's there's nothing to it. It's like one dimensional. All the effects to cover it up. The typical awful production that you guys have talked about that plays everything since he got rid of since he stopped working with Rick Rubin. Dude, it's so bad. You're just you're like rose colored glass. Well, I admit that I have to admit I haven't heard the whole thing either. But I will say this.

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that impressed me was always on my mind. And I was like, wow, this is fucking good. So maybe you try that one and I'll try the rest of the record and we'll see if we can meet in the middle. I just tried a couple and I was like, oh, this is... But I will say this, it's more likely, I'm willing to believe it's more likely you're right than me. I get that because I haven't heard the whole thing, but... You should invest in some auto-tune. You what? You've heard mixed reviews? Yeah, mixed reviews. I've heard people say it's really good. I've heard a lot of people say it's bad. Now, can I just also point out

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I love the cover. It looks like an old Elvis cover. You should look at it. It's pretty great. I haven't liked anything since John Christ was in the band, which was Danzig 4. Yeah. That was the last good one. I'm with you on that. By the way, they were going to play Danzig 3 at Psycho Vegas this year, which was really making it hard for me not to go. And plus Merciful Fate was playing. They played most of Danzig 3, though.

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the year that we played. I think it was Dan's dick too this year. Oh, okay. I could be wrong. Yeah, he called the sound. He told the sound guy he sucked donkey dick. Floppy donkey dick. Well, I just found out that John Christ actually lives in Baltimore or at least lived in Baltimore. I want to run up there and be like, dude, go back and fix this shit. If he lives in Baltimore, he's probably dead by now. Yeah, probably.

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It's like the murder capital of the world right now. I like the strange kind of logic of that sentence. If he lives in Baltimore, he's dead. Or wishes he was. He's a guitar teacher. He just does like regular, just as if you were to go to your local guitar store and just walk in. He's a guitar teacher. Gonna take some fucking lessons, George. Yeah, it's only been 30 years. I'm probably getting better. That's awesome.

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I've given up on guitar. I'm working on drums now. And just for the record, that's going poorly. Your skin flute skills are astronomical, according to Jay. According to Jay. They throw me under the bus like they will. I'm really just throwing. No, no, no. I appreciate it. It's nice to be thought of. All right. So let's move on to our

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Metal Thunderdome. Last time, we forgot to mention this on the last episode, but last time, our Thunderdome was Celtic Frost's Monotheist versus Carcass's Surgical Steel. That's an asshole. And unfortunately, thanks to Markisan pimping it, it is now tied. Is that true? Well, here's the thing, though. I want Temple of Void to vote because they can break the tie. Wait, wait, wait. Explain what's going on. So Metal Thunderdome,

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Metal Thunderdome is two albums enter, one album leaves. And we vote on it on an episode, and then we put it up on our Facebook and let everybody on Facebook vote on it. Currently... So it's like three people vote on it, by the way. No, we had... It's like 30 people. Yeah. And it was, for the longest time, Celtic Frost Monotheist was winning, and then after Mark San, who voted for Monotheist, pimped it, Carcass caught up, and it's tied.

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If Temple of Void is the guys to break this, I already know who's going to win, dude. Yeah, there's five of them, so we're going to break the tie. And I don't care how much. No, no, no, they're all going to vote for Celtic Frost. There might be some Carcass fans in that band, but I don't buy it for a second. All right, well, let's just make this quick. Any Carcass votes? Celtic Frost wins. I thought it was awesome. I thought that was a great reunion album. Surgical Steel's really good.

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I love Bill Steers playing on that album. He sounds like he has done nothing but practice between albums. But I mean, like there, there's some really solid material on there. But I will say Monotheist, I thought was a really, really, really good, like, comeback record. It was different. I mean, and we it was Alex's Choice Act. I think that was his suggestion to do Azibizmi off of that one. But yeah, I mean, it's there's some real like bleak and just sort of like

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just really unnerving soundscapes on that album. And I mean, the riffs are crushing the productions, crushing like as a standalone album. That's it's a good album. So I got I could I could make the argument and I mean this that it's the heaviest fucking record ever made. But and I know that's saying a lot. But in any case, I knew you guys would shoot it because I knew you guys are devotees of that. And I am too. It's like one of my favorite post 2000 albums. It was very fortunate enough to see the tour.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. You know, I love Trypticon. Those Trypticon records rule. They fucking rule. That is the last one, yeah. I said this on a cast before, but I just, I felt like Tom G. Warrior was looking for that perfect sound, and it started with Monotheist. You know, I mean, he'd been searching for it his whole career, but Monotheist started it, and then Trypticon perfected it with those albums. They blew me away live.

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Yeah, absolutely. Just took me away. That's right. We saw that at MDF that year. Yeah. Yeah. It was like almost just crushing your chest. It's amazing. We saw them. They came out and they opened with Procreation of the Wicked and they played it like super, super slow. Yeah. One of my favorite facts about Tom is that in Only Death is Real, and this is why I think he's an artist for a lot of reasons, but that when I think it was in League with Satan came out,

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the first Venom single. That he and Martin discovered it was heavier if they played it at 33 speed. It was a 45. So that's the way they listened to that record. They didn't give a fuck. They were like, this is heavier this way. This is the way we're listening to it. So that's what I love about Tom Weir. He's a fucking artist. It's almost like Idiot Savant in some ways where it's just sort of like it's like the Celtic Frost guitar tone. It's so nasally. It's so identifiable.

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It's so whatever. It's the fucking tone knob. You turn your tone knob off because it doesn't feed back. You know what I mean? You defined it as something and you created a genre sound just by doing what you can by grasping at whatever level you were at doing it. He's one of those right place at the right time kind of people where that kind of shit was really innovative because he was on a different wavelength and it worked in his favor.

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I had the good fortune to meet him at the Decimal Fest LA and I interviewed him without a microphone. I asked him a bunch of questions. I was too nervous to ask him to do an interview but I asked him like was the Grave Hill bunker there where they used to record I don't know if you guys read his book and all that stuff just a bunch of questions like that. The only death is real book yeah. Yeah and I got a signed copy of that which was awesome. Anyway I say Matt's an asshole because I also do love the Carcass Records. Yeah I mean it's a great record. That's true. So we

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We have a new Thunderdome this time, which was chosen by John. I will let John speak it. So last time Matt got me thinking when he wanted to know which was the better comeback album between Carcass and Celtic Frost. So I was racking my brain on what I could come up with that not the same, but a type of theme. And the theme I came up with, and I know Will will appreciate this underlying theme, is

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Which of these two albums was the better before these two bands decided to go down the commercial route? Because let's be honest, after these two albums, they did both bands. Floppy Donkey Dicks. Yes. Again, running agenda item. Is that Glenn Danzig? So I decided who had the better album before that. Was it Metallica's Injustice for All or Megadeth's Rust in Peace?

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All right. So I guess I'll go first. Well, well, no, let's go on our regular order just for the sake of so we'll start with Markisan. We'll go through us and then let's do the guests. That's what I meant. All right. Which is better or which you like better is fine, but you can say which is better. However, you choose to do it. You're now in the metal Thunderdome. Make your choice. We'll start with Mike. Let's go. One lives, one dies.

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So to speak. Mike, Mike, Mike, are you awake? Yeah, I'm here. I'm thinking about it. Okay. I'm between Rust in Peace and a Justice for All. I'm going to say Rust in Peace. I love Marty Friedman. He's definitely like easily top five, maybe top three guitar player. I love hearing that guy play. I love his lead style.

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I think it's an incredibly technical record. I'm going to say, yeah, I'm going to say. All right, Jason, you can hear David Elson play. Never been a Megadeth fan. Okay. And just injustice for all for me all the way. Okay. And that's the last Metallica record. Yeah. Yeah. We all agree with that. No matter who you are, you agree with that. But actually, actually, no,

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George does not agree with that because he thinks everything Metallica's ever done is great now I don't like saying anger and I don't like reload but everything else is all right you love it all well will has admitted that he's listened to Sant Anger at least 107 times so I actually I want to story behind that I just want to add to Jason's thing there because I feel like he was looking for an end of that sentence because the sentence was that's the last Metallica album the sentence is that's the last Metallica album period

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That man appeared. Can I buy a period? All right, Alex. Without a doubt, Metallica. And it's honestly pure, not purely, but a huge aspect is I hate Dave Mustaine's voice. It's a hard thing to get through. And I hate the guitar tone. I hate it. 100% Metallica. Without question. Even if Dave had a better voice,

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Oh, yeah, Metallica. That was their album, their greatest album, which is the Black album, in my opinion. I love the Black album. That's my favorite. Thank you. Thank you. It's not my favorite, but I like it. Dude, well, in 1991, I'm like, you know, 12 years old. It blows my mind. It's the first thing I heard from them, so I think it's fucking awesome. Yeah.

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All right. Don. Will's having a stroke. My face is paralyzed and I'm like. I can listen to the Black Album any day of the week. I love the Black Album. Yeah. You fucking fly that flag, dude. I love watching Will be tortured like this. Hey, Will, I'm on your feet, Will. Don. And Justice for All.

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Like, hands down, that's not even a question for me. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's, that'll always, that'll always be my favorite Metallica record, like, until the end of time. And there's, man, there's good stuff on the Black Album. I mean, like, I mean, there's just, there's so many hits on that record, or singles, videos, whatever. But, like, the B-sides, man, like, My Friend in Misery, Struggle Within, God That Failed. Yeah, love those songs. Awesome. All right, now we will go to Marcasson. Am I the only one?

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The Bandit.

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For All is not metallic, his best record, but

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I'm really fond of it because that's when I was getting into metal around that time. And the story and the video for one really stands out to me. But yeah, it's really hard. I'm actually, I haven't picked, so I'm doing it right now. I think I'm going to go with Rust in Peace just because of the lasting impact on heavy music. I think it set a new standard in 1990. And yeah, I'm just going to do that. Rust in Peace.

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Matt? I would say there's probably two albums that I really cut my teeth on when I was younger. But we're not talking about Limp Bizkit. But the other one was Injustice for All. Tell us about the Nucky. Yeah, Injustice for All. Be my pick. All right, thank you. John? Okay, so I won't waffle like Markisan, but I will be emphatic like Mike.

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There's just no way in my mind that I can go with Injustice for all as much as I like that album. Rest in Peace is from the start way more balls out in my opinion. It's more technical. They just come out with such aggression and I just can't listen to Lars's playing. He sucks. He's terrible. I don't care what anyone says about him. Granted, my years of playing are 30 years gone, but I hear Nick Menza just brings so much more to the world.

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So for me, I prefer Rest in Peace. And while not a big Dave fan, because I know probably more about him than I need to know from personal stories, I just, like Mike said, I love Marty Friedman's playing. Just, to me, it's a better album. John, I agree. Jumming-wise, I totally agree. And I'm not the banging Lars band camp, but he's fucking horrible.

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And I don't want to take away from what he brought in the early albums, you know, because he did contribute something to metal. But at that point, it was gone. Still a good record, though. Yeah. Oh, I still love it. Justice for All in a Rock. I love it. March of the Saints. Everybody wants to talk crap on Lars, but every band needs a Lars. Maybe not like a Lars in like a totally pure sense, but they need somebody that like knows how to go and push the band and market the band.

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Metallica really wouldn't be Metallica because Lars was the guy that was going like, here's new wave of British heavy metal. Here's this. Here's this. Here's this. You know what I mean? I'm talking about his playing, not his influence. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. On his playing. I mean, he's definitely the weakest sling. What I'm saying, his value is served in other ways. And, you know, historically through that. But they wouldn't sound the way they sound if he didn't play the way he did.

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Agree. Yeah. I agree. Will. Weirdly enough, when I first saw like this in black and white where John suggested this, I'm like, oh, this is going to be tough. But then it was weird because I instantly gravitated to one more than the other. And even though my first time seeing Metallica was Injustice for All and it was an amazing stage show. It was. You know, they had like everything falling.

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down, it was like crumbling stage. It was, it was amazing, but there was no fucking base. And I just felt like the songs just kind of like went on and on and on. And then I think about rust in peace. And it was like, like, I think John said it best. Like it was just, it was a technical punch in your face. And I'm not the biggest Dave Mustaine fan, but man, I just think that that was a far superior album. So I'm going with rust in peace.

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Excellent. All right. So I come from, I have, I share a lot of common experience with a bunch of you guys. So meaning like, not unlike Alex for, and I changed, but I could not stand, I didn't understand why anybody like Megadeth in the 80s. It's like Dave's voice drives me fucking nuts. But then somewhere along the line in truth, and this was post 2000, in all honesty, I broke through that wall somehow. And, um, and became a fan of Megadeth. Um, something clicked. Were you like a big fan of risk or something? Like, you'd be like, Oh,

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Yeah!

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No, actually, well, it's funny, you know, the punchline to the joke is that all of that, you know, when you look at all of these best metal albums of all time, Rust and Peace is always on them, so I was like, okay, fucking, I hadn't even probably heard it from start to finish, because I hated them so much, and I got it, and I was like, okay, yeah, this is fucking great, but anyway, so there's that. Now, my second part of this story is that I was a Metallica fucking fanatic from basically Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets, blew everybody's mind, Garage Days Revisited, and I'm probably one of the few people that

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When Injustice came out, I was really disappointed. I was like, okay, I guess this is kind of over. No, I agree. Like, I was a little disappointed. Compared to Ride the Lightning and compared to Master Puppets, to me, Injustice for All was sort of like, it was a little bit of a letdown. And then the Blackout, we didn't forget about after the Blackout. Well, actually, I can articulate that a little bit. First of all, I just think, like, Master Puppets was a hard record to follow. But second, they were like these street punk skater guys. They fucking always were like, we're never going to make

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a video and it doesn't matter to me that they made a video but they were a whole different group of guys before injustice fault for all came out and and honestly i think cliff leaving the band changed everything and by leaving the band i was that was absolutely leaving the world but anyway i've gone on too long but my choice is also rest and uh rest in peace and it's it's for me it's no contest and i'm a big metallica guy but you know i i rest in peace is great it's really a fucking seminal album

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And it's, by the way, a seminal album that was after most of the 80s seminal albums came out, even though it came out in 90, that they were being that kind of European and that kind of technical and everything. It's great. It's fucking great. Yeah. Hence my vote. All right. There's a, well, we know George are going to pick in Justice Frost. So anyway, so what's the next thing on the list? I don't know that. I don't know if that's true. He loves the Black album. He knows he's going to pick this.

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So there's a phrase we use on this podcast. Sometimes it's called Sophie's Choice. Whereas it's two things that you have a really hard time choosing between. I love both these albums. Thanks for explaining Sophie's Choice. Hey, young people don't know that movie. So I really had to think about this one.

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And one of these is the best album. By the band. And Justice For All is a good album. Rest in Peace is the best album. That's actually, that's a very good way to put it. So I'm Rest in Peace. You know what, you did, Josh, we all did this really shitty math. George brought it down to like two plus two is four, bro. Well done. It's funny, George, because I actually like Peace Sells more, but. Yes, Peace Sells is the best Megadeth.

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Favorite all-time Megadeth song, Tornado of Souls. And I also agree with George that Rest of Peace is their best record. But Peace sells is a reasonable argument. Devil's Island is pretty cool, too. Yeah, it is. Weirdly enough, I'm a big fan of So Far, So Good, So Good. I like that one, too. All right. So I have no idea, actually. What's the count, then? The final count? Six to five. And that's going to be Metallica? Rest in Peace. Really? Wow. Wow.

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We heard the telecom a lot more. Basically, it was like podcast versus Temple of Voice. So, Mike, you were the deciding vote there. I also say, but it looks like I may have very well done the split. Yeah, it looks like we have a new lead singer, boys. Yeah, Matt was bitchy for the podcast. I was.

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all right let's move on to our top five and will you came up with this one so you get to talk about it oh yeah so um

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Let me get my notes here. So knowing that the guys from Temple of Void are big fans of horror, and I know the last time we interviewed them, it was, I'm not exactly sure who is the curator of all the B-movie VHS horror flicks, whether that's all of you. It's Acid Witch. Yes, Mike. Yeah, okay.

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So when we were thinking about like what can we be our we always have a top five so what will be the top five and I felt like some sort of like horror thing like there's obviously Temple of Void there's a lot of like horror stories horror movies horror everything so what is your top five horror like basically medium whether it's a an album whether it's a movie whether it's a book so top five horror themed

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Stories.

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Stories.

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I have the list compiled, but I can come up with some stuff off the top.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Well, we're doing, everybody's going to do the number five and then we're going

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to rotate back and do our number fours and so on.

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Oh, okay.

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We'll start.

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So you only need one right now.

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So what would you be?

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Yeah, I'll say mine or mine or not in a one.

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Okay.

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One that comes to mind that I actually liked.

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It's from, I'm not quite sure which one it is.

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You guys remember the old like scary stories to tell in the dark, like novels, the ones

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I had the Stephen Gamble drawings and Schwartz wrote them or whatever. They were compiled from folklore. There was one in particular that I always really liked and it wasn't exactly gory. It was more or less kind of a twist ending on it. It was like three old men that lived in an old age home and they were kind of geriatric and sort of bedridden and things like that. They shared a room and a line and the one guy passed away and the other guy moved them down the line in the bed order. The one guy would just constantly

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describe everything they saw out of the window and things like that.

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The other guy couldn't see out of the window, so he devises this plan where he's going to knock his medication off the shelf or something.

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So he ends up having a heart attack. He can't reach it and get it.

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So then he dies, and the twist ending is he looks out the window and finally wants to see all these things that he hears about,

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like people walking and animals and just all the scenes that were being described, and it's a brick wall.

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You know, he just looks out the window and it's immediately just another building. There's nothing. I always thought that was kind of cool. Kind of lended to a lot of like the power of imagination and the power of the mind's eye, I guess. And the disappointment of reality. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So thanks for spoiling the whole story. Yeah. Spoiler alert. Fuck. Oh, whatever. There's like. No, no, no. We're fucking with you.

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at least like 53 other stories that are fine all right moving on down the line jason you can skid me okay yeah alex uh devil's rejects all right that's fine choice dude almost an exploitation film or snuff film if you will yeah rob somebody does have plenty of punches yeah yeah and i'll say it's because it's the blend of psychology and the visceral like gore stuff

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I'm not a big horror guy from a gore perspective. I'm way more into psychological stuff. But the way he blends the two, it's just a knockout. So Devil's Rejects. I like all his movies. Some of them are a little worse than us. So sorry that Sid Haig died last year, by the way. Moving on down. Brent. The Re-Animator. I love that movie, man. I love Re-Animator too. You know, H.B. Lovecraft.

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It's a classic 80s vibe. I can watch that seasonally. Every October, I feel like we put that on. Right on. Don? Let's see. Number five, High Tension. Okay. What's that? That came out in, I think it was 2002, 2003. Brent, I think you're familiar with that too, yeah? We talked about that. Yeah, I watched that actually a couple months ago.

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It's like a like a almost like a cat and mouse chase kind of thing going on. But there's a there's a whole lot of psychological stuff going on to it, too. That's a fair amount of gore. There's a little bit of something for everybody going at it. Pretty good twist at the end. Yeah. Nice. All right. Markisan my number five is a bright burn. It's a show produced by

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by James Gunn of Guardians of the Galaxy

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fame last year.

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It's quickly become one of my favorite horror movies. It basically

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asks the question, what if Superboy was

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an evil fuck?

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I wanted to say that.

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As a lifelong comic book reader,

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I've seen the Man of Steel use his

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power set in creative ways to help

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people, so the idea to flip that

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around and have him utilize his abilities

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to kill is just terrifying

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to me. I was on pins and

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the whole film waiting to see what power this kid was going to bust out and how he'd take somebody apart the film is has really great pacing the kid they cast and lead was perfect and creepy and that mask he wears is scary and metal as fuck so i can't recommend this one more highly really enjoy it

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Matt

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for my top five I kind of went with things that

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in terms of like where they influenced me in my life so these would be the five that influenced me the most

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as I was younger I mean I've always loved horror but I can't say in most more recent years I've gotten

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you know the chance to go super deep with it so my number five is a film it is the pit in the pendulum

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with Vincent Price

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That's a good one. That's cool. Good pick. Cool. Where are we, John? So, I, like Alex, I prefer implied horror over gore. I like to think more about what's going on than rather see it. So, I don't think anyone's going to have this on their list, but Jay, I think, can appreciate this. I grew up in a small town in Northern California called Heftmoor Bay, which is Surfer's Paradise.

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And there's a lot of sharks out there. I mean, a lot. It's basically called Blood Triangle for a reason. So my number five, because I remember when this film came out and people were scared to go in the water, is Jaws. I love that movie. The idea of if you just fell in the water, you may not come back out for a reason. Which is why I don't go into the ocean past my knees. And that damn shark wouldn't die. I thought for a second you might say plant breaks.

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Point Break.

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Actually, Marcus, I was going to go with the Black Album as my number five.

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Acceptable.

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Oh my god, I should have totally done that.

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There was a pretty good meme for a while that was probably still, I mean, I'm sure it's still circulating, but it was just, it said the mayor from Jaws is still the mayor in Jaws 2.

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That's why it's important to vote.

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Which is true.

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He's still the fucking mayor.

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How'd that guy pull that off?

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Yeah, well, there's the other meme going on.

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The, uh, the, there's a meme going around now saying, uh, yeah, this guy thought it was a good idea to open the beaches too. So, and let's be honest, that film has the greatest ad lib line ever in any film, which is, we're going to need a bigger boat. I didn't know that. Yeah. Nice. Weirdly enough, we were last year. We were, uh, the family, we, we,

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All went to Brinty, New Jersey. And my uncle, who's super cheap, still has a VHS player in this rental house, his condo right near the beach. And he had Jaws. And so my kids watched Jaws and they loved it. And so now when I say we're going to need a bigger boat, they all know what I'm talking about. Nice. And what's your number five, Will? So my number five. So I kind of went with a mixture of

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of movies, literature, and music. But my number five, I fucking love this movie, Army of Darkness. Yeah, baby. Give me some sugar, baby. I just fucking love that. Bruce Campbell. God damn. Did you watch Ash vs. Evil Dead? Well, because it was fucking great. Oh, the show is kick-ass. That was so good. Lee Majors. Yeah, it was good. Get on that, Will.

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You'll love it. Yeah, it's good. All right, Jay. I did like Will. I've chosen different eras and different mediums, but my number five is what I thought was one of my personal favorite late era post 2000 horror movies, and I still think this is a really good fucking movie. Insidious. Hell yes. I just fucking love that movie. I just, I've probably watched it five, ten times. Dude, that's a great movie. Yeah, it's fucked up. That's it. No more comment. All right.

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and my number four are both things that terrified me as a child. And a black album. No, no. I was a I was an adult. I knew what I was doing. Is it something about girls? No, no. It is a movie that I only as a kid, I only saw the like trailers for it and it gave me nightmares. And that was an American werewolf in London.

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funny movie, but as a kid, I did not know. It's got some rough spots in it. I was going to say, like, the gore and the special effects in that are actually really good. Yeah, yeah, but, you know, as much as it terrified me as a kid, when I saw it as an adult, you know, there are funny aspects to this movie. Oh, no, absolutely. So, but I didn't get any of that as a kid, so. All right, well, Mike, back to you for a number four. Okay, I'm actually, I'm in my,

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I'm in my movie room right now looking for things. And I'm going to... Can I actually accept this, boy? I can. There we go. How about this? Wolchee Zombie. That's a fucking great movie. This is my movie room, by the way. I love zombies. That's great. But yeah, I mean, just quintessential is supposed to be kind of an unofficial cash grab sequel to

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of the dead. And, uh, I don't know, just something about this, seeing this like as a child, like renting and going into the video store, I had to rent it and my dad was cool enough to let me rent it. So, uh, this kind of started my trek on like cult, weird horror movie, whatever. So yeah, I got to definitely give some props to this. So that's my choice. This is my, uh, this is my movie room, by the way, these are my VHS tapes. So don't feel bad for having a VCR.

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I think I just got rid of the rest of my VHS tapes. I showed my kids a cassette tape today and they were like, you used to listen to music on this, daddy? Yes, I did. I still have beta tapes. I still have a few of those around somewhere too, yeah. Hey man, I got some beta. Can you play them though? Yes, I have a beta. Well, actually I have a beta max, but I haven't even

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I can't test it yet. I can rewind them. Check this out. Can you rewind them? All right. Who's next? Let's keep this list rolling. Alex. I'm going to go with Rosemary's baby. And I'm going to go with it because the book and the movie are both incredible. Also the score. And it's my favorite movie poster of all time. So it has like everything across.

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It actually has one other level of creep to it in that it's Polanski and then the whole Sharon Tate thing happened and I've always sort of thought that was just such a weird no relation just like of course there's something I don't know. Yeah I showed it to my wife for the first time I mean maybe a few months ago and she loved it. She likes the psychological horror as well. You talking about your penis or what are you talking about? What? No Will. Psychological horror.

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or if shown it to your wife for the first time? Brent. Tracy. I forgot who was next. Brent. Oh, I'm going to go Exorcist right now. Yeah. Read the book, watched the movie. I saw the movie before I read the book and then reading the book, it really helped me appreciate the story. You sat on the steps too. I sat on the steps too. Thank you.

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There is a fantastic made for TV slash documentary type 60 minutes thing that came out right when that movie came out and it was about how people were fainting in the theater and stuff. It's so fucking good. I'd kind of like to send it to you. So are you on Facebook, Brent? I am not. Okay. We'll get it to you somehow. You've got to watch this thing. It's only available online and it's just like all these people fainting in that movie. The effect it had on people. I would definitely like to watch that.

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You can send that to me. I'm on Facebook. Okay. All right. I will. I will. I'm going to find it right now. All right. Don. Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Nice. He likes it good. That's a good one. Leatherface. For now. All right. Mark's on. All right. Yeah. I mean, this whole list is really hard because you could do anything you wanted. So I definitely had to get some comic books in here as a big comic book reader. So my number four is

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Rachel Rising, which is a graphic novel. It's written and illustrated by Terry Moore, published by Abstract Studios. It was a 42-issue comic book series, and it's collected into seven trades and a hardcover omnibus, and it follows a character named Rachel Beck. She's a woman who wakes up in a shallow grave after she's been strangled, and she doesn't remember what happened to her. And she starts trying to solve her attempted murder with the help of her friend, her Aunt Johnny and her friend Jet. And during the investigation,

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They learn that there's this demonic plot to destroy their town of Manson, Massachusetts. But in order to prevent the destruction, they have to align themselves with a murderous little girl named Zoe who's possessed by a demon for decades. I'm a big fan of Terry Moore because he writes amazing characters that I care about. And Rachel Rising is the first series where he applied that character work to horror. And it just makes a hell of a creepy story. There's an underlying ancient

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It's an epic quality to it that I really enjoy. It's one of my favorites. Nice. I'll have to look that up. Matt? All right. For my number four, I have another Edgar Allan Poe. This is the actual, the writing. It was the first thing of his I ever read, and that is the Telltale Heart. That's a cool story. That's a good one. Classic. Yeah. Is that the one where it's like under the floorboard? Yeah. Floorboards. Yeah.

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I mean, I don't remember how old, I was young, but it just totally blew my fucking mind. Well, I just think it's funny he murders the guy because the guy's got a fucked up eyeball. Like, what a reason. Like, God, you're trying to be insane, I have to kill this guy. Yeah, so, John. My number four is a remake of, I can't remember what, if it's the 50s or,

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I think it was the 50s this film came out but this made my list just for the last scene of the movie my number four is the thing from 1982 it's just that one moment at the end of the film where it's Kurt Russell and the other guy and they say well how do we know if it's you or me and Kurt Russell just says I guess we'll just have to wait and find out and if you made it through that whole film you just realize that alone just like fuck we're doomed either way so

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John, it's one of my favorites of all time. If I was just doing films, it would be on here. I felt like I had to represent. I know I'm pulling movies and I had it. I'm going to pick something different now. Do you remember Fangoria magazine? I don't know if they still do it, but back in the eighties, Fangoria magazine, I used to, I was too young to see a lot of these movies. Uh, but I'd go to the grocery store and, and look through the magazine and the thing and like all the early, uh, Friday the 13th movies and stuff. You'd see all the gory scenes in there.

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Well, the cool thing is, I mean, that's an old movie, but it still holds up because all those special effects are practical and they're amazing. It's a good remake, too. The remake is good. Yeah, I agree. For a remake, it's good. The original is great, yeah. Will. I'm going into the musical realm and my number four is the self-titled Rigor Mortis album. Fucking love it. And they, it is all about

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They have a song called Reanimator. I mean, it's just, it is B-movie horror come to life in musical form. It is un-fucking-believable. One of my favorite albums of all time. Great album. The guitar playing on that record. Yeah, Mike, rest in peace. The dude is just phenomenal. And that was an album where it's sort of like, this guy kind of like,

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plays solos through the whole album it's not really riff oriented it's just like it's almost solo oriented it's crazy yeah it's like it's like fast single note like almost like lead lines yeah all right jay all right this is the only story slash uh literature i included in mine though there are plenty of horror books and things that i've read that i've loved but like so many people love h.p lovecraft and there's a lot of obvious choices you can make

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I'm not going to cheat by saying a bunch of them. I'll just say that probably my favorite story by him is the Dunwich Horror. It's just such a good story. If you guys don't remember which title goes with which story, but that's the one where that Wilbur Waitley starts to pull a demon into the world, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And this professor from Arkham University has to stop him. It's just such a fucking great story. And so insulting to rural people. Lovecraft was kind of a

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Racist slash classist, you know. But anyway, it's a great story, and I love it. And I read. It's funny that you mentioned you watch Re-Animator every October. I reread a bunch of Lovecraft stuff every October. And by the way, I put the Exorcist documentary thing in the chat window so you can cut and paste it. Totally worth your time. It's like 23 minutes long, but it's like 1973 or whatever television is so fucking good. Nice.

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Okay. Before I get to my number four, I thought of something. So think of this as like an honorable mention. I, because I didn't think of it before, but this is a movie that when I was a kid, there was like creature feature on Saturdays, like on the UHF channel in Michigan. Hey, Michigan. And there was a Peter Cushing movie. And it was only a couple of years ago that I finally found out what the name of this movie was, but it's called Island of Terror.

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Has anybody heard of that? Yeah. It's this weird fucking movie. I just pulled it up on IMDB. An isolated remote island community is threatened by an attack by tentacled silicates which liquefy and digest bone and tissue. And it was just such a weird fucking movie of these like lumpy things with like an elephant trunk that would like, yeah, just like go over people.

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and kill them and like desiccate

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them and uh i wish the movie was called lumpy trunk well google it uh Markisan

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because it's a total love crafty and bad guy i'm gonna google lumpy trunk for sure anyway but my

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number four uh i couldn't i couldn't go with just a movie i had to go with a series and i've done that twice in my list

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uh the the series of the omen movies

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Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, they are all pretty good. I mean, maybe not the last one, but you know, that was okay. Sam. What's this? Fuck. Who's the guy who plays him? Sam Neal. Sam Neal. I mean, that scene where they kill the babies. That's pretty fucked up. And the one lady does it with an iron. All right. Number three. We are back to Mike.

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Ooh, number three. Okay. I grabbed the thing, but, uh, I'm going to pick something else. Now I am going with, uh, with secret life of Jeffrey Dahmer.

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It's kind of a labor of love for him. It's actually very comical and unintentionally comical. Lots of actually pretty good, cheap gore and whatnot. It's basically a dramatized recounting of the Dahmer story. It's definitely worth checking out if you can find it.

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I just recently saw something about Dahmer on Netflix. It's called Young Jeffrey Dahmer. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. He was in high school. Yeah. It's really good. I like it. Oh, you watched it? Yeah, I watched it. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, because I mean, it was like supposedly, I mean, he was like a fairly normal guy, kind of a class clown, kind of, you know, whatever, not, you know, not exactly like a super studious.

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guy or whatever, you know, just normal enough to where you wouldn't think that he would be capable of doing the things he did. Interesting. But yeah, I'd like to watch it. What is it available on? Netflix, I think. It's either Netflix or Amazon, yeah. Just type in Dahmer. I'm on VHS tapes, dude. I don't even have streaming at this point. Wow. Alex. Yep.

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with the wicker man the original obviously fuck yeah dude oh not the nicholas cage one i haven't seen that

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so the original one and i when i was watching it a couple times ago i've seen that a lot

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i realized i recognized the where lord summer isle lives and it was shot at a castle called cologne castle

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and I grew up in Scotland and I used to visit that castle as a kid. Oh, wow. And I had an idea and then I'm watching it and I'm like, I've been to that garden before. No fucking shit. Yeah, like IMDB did and I was like, holy shit, it's Haleine Castle. That's awesome because I've always wondered where it was filmed. I've never looked it up and I've seen it like you have seen it many times. Oh, that's awesome, dude. It's also awesome that you grew up in Scotland. Yeah, now I know why you say metal. Yeah. Metal. Metal.

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How much accent does Alex have? He's like, mail. Now it makes total sense. Now it makes sense. Hey Alex, how do you say the word crap? Shite? It's crap! Come on now. Saturday Night Live. He really wanted the crap. That was a great answer. Brent. A great film, I think. Brent.

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I'll go with Halloween, the original. That's another seasonal movie that I've probably seen way too many times and don't ever need to see again, but I'll always walk year in, year out. Yeah, I like the Rob Zombie remakes too. Oh, hell yeah. I'm a huge Rob. Yeah, I like those a lot, the remakes. Cool. Hey guys, I gotta go. All right. See you Jason. Later guys. See you JJ. See you man.

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All right, Don.

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Uh, Exorcist.

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Okay, classic.

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Yeah, I, uh, I remember seeing it when they, uh, when it got re-released in the theater, um, with the extra scenes.

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I always, I will always remember, uh, Linda Blair going backwards.

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Yeah, it's pretty fucked up.

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They really had a lady come in and do that.

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That's a real, that's no special effect.

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It's a woman who was a gymnast.

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Ah, nice.

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But it's like how they left that scene out. I don't know. Cause it's fucked up, dude. Should have been. Yeah, man. That's, that's the, that's, that's one of the ultimate scenes I think in that film for me. All right. Markisan. Number three, I'm going with another graphic novel. And that's Uzumaki. It's written and illustrated by Janji Ito published by Viz Media. Ito is the absolute master of horror manga and he's created a lot of great graphic novels. But I think this,

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is his masterpiece. It's about a small town plagued by a supernatural curse involving spirals. Spirals. Okay. My, my ex actually had that book and I, I looked through it. I love that guy's artwork. It's got that like iconic photo of that girl where like half of her face is like that spiral void. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's cool. It's unsettling. It's like, uh, the characters, they become completely obsessed with spirals. So then you will see people's eyes spiral on the back of their heads. There's dudes that break their own bones and rearrange.

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them to imitate spirals. It's really fucking bizarre and surreal. And it's just terrifying, especially with the artwork. I love that book. Interesting. I'd like to check that out. Matt. My number three, this was not the first Stephen King novel I read, but it was definitely one that stuck with me. And that is Salem's Lot. Oh, yeah. Nice. I love that. It's probably the scariest of his novels, I think. Agreed. Mm-hmm.

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John.

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My number three is a Stephen King story, but it's an actual movie.

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And it's by far got the best act scene ever in any movie.

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That's The Shining.

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Are you going with the book or the movie?

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The movie.

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Just pure psychological hell that whole time.

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You know, it just keeps building to the very end.

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Did you see Doctor Sleep?

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I did see Doctor Sleep.

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That's not bad.

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I thought it was fine. Yeah. All right. Well,

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I'm going with music for the second and last time cannibal corpse kill. God fucking amazing album. And just, just fucking brutal. All right. My, uh, my number three is, uh, and under, it's the only album I've gotten. It's, uh, on my list and it's under,

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and underappreciated King Diamond record called The House of God. And I'll just give you a brief summary. And it's that in this, in the book supposes that Jesus didn't die on the cross and rather moved to France and married Mary Magdalene. And then they put him in the catacomb of this church, this, and where that King Diamond comes upon and he's mummified in the basement and blah, blah, blah. It goes on and on. And it's actually a truly creepy and atmospheric story.

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that they could make it to a movie. It's so good. And it's his most blasphemous thing. They did. It's called, what's his name? The Dan Brown thing. Yeah, the big one. Da Vinci Code. It's basically Da Vinci Code. Yeah. And Da Vinci Code is basically based off Holy Blood, Holy Grail. Yeah, I got the book. But this is done in King Diamond Gothic nightmare mode, so it's a little different. But it's so good. It's probably based on the book, though.

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The Holy Blood one. Possibly. I stand with you. House of God. Great album. Very underrated. Underrated late era. I was going to say that came out after Puppet Master, right? No, it was before Puppet Master, but it might be the one right before that. Okay. Yeah, my chronological whatever right now is a little off. But yeah, good album. Jorge. This is my first non-movie. This is

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This was, it wasn't my first horror story that I had read. And I'm going with Stephen King as he's been mentioned several times already. But this was the one, the first one by Stephen King that I read as a kid that just captivated me. And that was it. Not the movies, which, eh, but the book is fucking awesome. I agree. All right, back to Mike for number two.

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I will you know what I'm gonna pick I thought about it because I know we were talking about stuff we were talking about Lovecraft I was thinking about picking another story I was gonna pick Pickman's model perhaps but I think I'm gonna go back with another movie this is a little underrated one kind of only a handful of heavy metal or not heavy metal but horror Thanksgiving movies this is called Home Sweet Home and stars Body by Jake who plays like this like PCP maniac who basically

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Ersteht man,

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like squeezing some guys like head crushing

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them and you know smashing them in a car hood and stuff like that is this before or after he

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became bodied by jake oh no way before this is like before he really had like any sort of like career

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okay alex i'm gonna go with psycho for number two uh the film hitchcock is my favorite director

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and Psycho.

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Yeah.

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I don't really think it needs much of an explanation as to.

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Does not.

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All right.

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Brent.

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I can't remember if anyone mentioned this, but Texas Chainsaw, the original.

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It's a horrible movie to watch because it looks like a snuff film.

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It seems like it's actually happening when you're watching it.

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But yeah, Texas Chainsaw.

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I love pretty much the whole series, honestly.

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Hillbilly Horror is one of my favorite genres of horror movies. Hills Have Eyes? Yep. It really is one of the great horror films of all time. It's got the X Factor going for it. I put the Devil's Rejects in there with the Hillbilly Horror a little bit. All right, Don. The Omen, the first one. Nice. Man, just the film score.

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There are so many scenes in that movie that are that I can that I can reference I mean the nanny jumping out of the second story window during the birthday party um I mean animals freaking out when they're driving through the zoo I mean there's it's that's just a that's a great just scary movie all the way around uh-huh yeah love that woman all right mark us on uh my number two John mentioned this in movie form but uh I'm gonna

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I devoured Stephen King books when I was a kid. So it was a hard choice for me. George mentioned it and that had a huge impact on me because I was the same age as those kids in the book when I read it. But The Shining is the novel that really scared me. And it's the book that made Stephen King a superstar. And I also think it's his best written novel. As a writer, it's a masterpiece, I think. So The Shining novel.

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Cool. Nice. Matt? My number two, going back to film, I think this is one of Jack Nicholson's first movies. It also stars Boris Karloff. It's called The Castle of Terror. I think it was also called The Terror. Don't know that one. What's that about? Like, Jack Nicholson is a, I believe he's a soldier, and his ship runs aground, and he stumbles upon this castle.

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And Boris Karloff is the person who lives there. That's too bad. You know what? I'll look and see. Fuck had to be Boris Karloff. Yeah. John. I still remember when this film came out in the late 70s. I need me a scream queen. So my number two is going to be Halloween. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Right on.

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Sorry.

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I'm going with I'm cheating a little bit. I'm going with HP Lovecraft's

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compilation book. Obviously, this was not compiled by him, but

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blood curling tales of horror and macabre. I remember

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buying this. I think I was in middle school, maybe

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and just what I loved about it is it had

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the same cover as Obituaries Cause of Death. Yeah. And so when I saw this, I'm like, I need to get this. And I was aware of H.P. Lovecraft, but I devoured the entire book. I think I made notes and everything in it. And I, when we had, when we talked about having this as the top five, I came down to my little library, such as it is down here. And I don't have it anymore.

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So I bought it on Kubo, which is some sort of like kind of like buying it on Kindle or something like that. But like, I'm super excited for the next couple of days. I'm just going to start reading the whole book again, which is all is a collection of all the short stories. But yeah, anyway, H.P. Lovecraft, blood curling tales of the horror and the super or the something. I don't know where the fuck it was. Not to correct you. And I'm not this geeky guy, but it's not all of his stories to be fair. Yeah, no, no.

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I own that edition.

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Well, I know that.

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So it has the cause of death thing on it?

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Yep.

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And not everybody will know that cover, but it was a common one.

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But in any case.

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Oh, yeah.

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I know exactly what you're talking about.

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That's it.

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Oh, yeah.

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I've got a handful of these.

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Mine actually is different than that a little bit.

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It's got more of the thing.

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Mine is another recent horror film that I thought was excellently done,

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And it really appealed to my young teenage sense. What I loved when I was a heavy metal kid as a kid and I was listening to Welcome to Hell and Merciful Fate and stuff. I really got into reading New England witch tale folklore stuff about how witches were in New England and what people believed happened. And it was a dream come true for me when the guy came out and made the movie The Witch. It's so fucking good. And it is just, it's not scary, but it's based on New England folklore.

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and what they believed witches did and how they got their powers and yet the witch doesn't even show up in the movie much i mean i assume you've all probably seen it oh yeah great yeah which also so the witch but i also want to point out that guy did another film called hereditary that's just as fucking good so but the witch is not on my list but hereditary was fucking badass so if i can inject a little bit of like weird brewing knowledge in here is that they um so there's this thing where on wheat or

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on barley there's um there's a fungus that grows on it called ergot and it's like this black fungus that grows on the end of like wheat or barley and if you eat it it makes it it's almost like eating a mushroom yeah like it makes you like psychologically like completely fucked up and they say that there there's um evidence that suggests that that the the people who are going crazy during the salem witch trials and all that stuff is because they're

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which is that fungus that grows on the wheat anyway.

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A little weird brewing thing.

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Do you know where I can get some?

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Yeah.

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Go to a wheat field.

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Thank you.

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Speaking of which, speaking of which is the Blair Witch, which is not on my list,

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but Burkittsville, where that takes place, is like 12 miles from here.

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Oh, I didn't know that.

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Yeah.

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It's a great one.

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I was seriously, seriously close to putting it on my list because when I saw that, I was in grad school, I think, when I came out when I was at Pitt. It was messed up. I saw that in a movie theater and that blew me away because it was movie making like I've never seen before and it was super creepy as fucking hell, man. Just the dude standing in the corner not looking at it. I was just like, what the fuck? Yeah. No, that was good. That was super close to making my list. Yeah, it's on my honorable mentions list for sure.

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12 miles, Burkittsville, that way. So anyway, my number two, I went with another series as opposed to an individual film because I love all three and I don't really care about the remake, but Evil Dead series. So Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness. Can't go wrong with those, George. Nope. All right, back to Mike for number one. Ooh, okay. So I grabbed Fantastic.

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But I seriously thought someone else would have snagged this. So I grabbed a backup. So for discussion's sake, I'm going to go with the backup. I'm picking Curtains, which is kind of like a B-list slasher. But I love this movie. And you guys were talking about watching the UHF station and stuff. I used to watch TV20 over here in Michigan used to do this show called Thriller. It was like public access. And the intro was actually like the middle part.

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Yes, that freaked me out. The first time I heard, I heard a whole lot of love. I was like, Oh, shit. Because that terrified me when I would see that. Oh, yeah. I mean, at that point, I was, I was fairly, but I didn't even know what it was. But yeah. And I remember watching this for the first time. And it clearly because it was on TV, it was like an edited version. But that scene where they're out, there's a there's a scene where the girl's outside and she's on the ice rink. And the killer's

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comes in and it's got this mask which is similar to what's painted on the cover here and she's just like out there and she's got this like total like rounded like simple like blade and it's all slow-mo like coming after her and it was like i remember that just being ingrained in my brain is like one of the like scariest things i remember seeing as a kid do you remember the guy that used to host that show back in the day he was kind of this like captain kangaroo looking guy

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No, I don't. Maybe that was before your time. I don't know how long they did it because I left Michigan a while ago, but as a kid, I used to watch that every Saturday. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, I vaguely like very, very vague like glimpses because I remember seeing stuff in like my first exposures to stuff like Alice Sweet Alice and all that and like, you know, clearly they were like edited so I could watch it, but you'd still get like the horror aspect to it. But I remember seeing that.

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And I remember that being in my brain for so long. And then finding out later what it was, you know, like I feel like, man, I saw that movie as a child. What was it? What was it? And then, you know, when I finally got into and I started renting horror movies regularly and things like that, and then finally stumbling across it going, that's the movie. That's the one. But yeah, curtains. I'll pick that for, uh, for discussion sake and a little bit more of an underrated movie. I think this movie is cool. Nice. Well, it's cool. Cause I haven't heard of it.

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Check it out. All right, Alex. I'm torn. I have a number one, which is a Cthulhu mythos, which hands down, I believe, like overall, just like you've been saying different series or the book of, you know, the compendium. I'm just going to say the whole mythos. But I have some like frustrating ones that didn't make it on the list. Shout them out, man. Get them in. Give us your honorable mentions, man. Okay.

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Yes.

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But that made a huge impression on me as a kid.

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It stands up.

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It stands up really well.

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And I would say is the death proof planet terror double feature.

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I saw that opening day,

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New York,

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the just,

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just those two together as one is a fucking amazing horror package.

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But I'm gonna put those aside.

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Cthulhu with us is my number one.

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I like you sneaking the ones you wanted to say by all means and you can't be the Cthulhu mythos he opened the door and his mind exploded you know what I mean like I said that's all his stories and I but I love it and I did it no good service there but I has anyone made a movie about Cthulhu from Lovecraft no well yes there are a couple of things but there's not any really good ones but one of the best I've seen and it's not a Cthulhu thing but it is based on the shed over Innsmouth it's a Spanish movie

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and it was the best. I have to look up the title. Um, it's the best HP Lovecraft attempt I've seen. There is a call of Cthulhu that's done in like a silent film that somebody made recently in the last few years. You can probably find it on YouTube. Can you figure out that Spanish one? Can you put it in the chat or message us later or something? Yeah, for sure. Thanks. Brent. Uh, yeah, I'm going to go with the Evil Dead series as well for my number one. Sweet. And I will include the remake because I actually

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I actually really think the remake's awesome. But those are some of my earliest horror movies. I grew up in a video store in the 80s. My dad owned one and the cover of Evil Dead 1 and 2 just grabbed my attention and I would stare at them all the time. The first time I watched them, yeah, terrified me. So Evil Dead. Sweet. Don? Shining is my number one film. Yeah, I mean, nothing, I guess.

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I can't really add too much more to it than what we've already talked about. I mean, it's come up a few times already in this discussion. But I mean, you know, the soundtrack, you know, John mentioned earlier about it being just, you know, just like nonstop terror for, you know, an hour and a half or two hours. That's a pretty good synopsis, I think. Yeah. All right. I just, just to interrupt, I put that up there. It's called

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Dagon, D-A-G-O-N, La Secta Del Mar. And it doesn't follow Shed Over In Smith exactly, but it's really fucking good. Thank you. Dude, Dagon's awesome. That's actually a really good one. I agree. Cool. And I interrupted somebody's flow. Who was next? Marcus Arnstein. All right. My number one. Okay. Well, I'm a huge sci-fi nerd and a big horror fan.

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There is no other film in the history of cinema that combined those two genres as well as Alien. It's not just one of the greatest sci-fi films of all time. It's not just one of the greatest horror films of all time. It's one of the movies, period. I love the pacing and directing in this movie. The characters are memorable. The music is chilling and foreboding. The creature and set designs based on H.R. Giger are breathtakingly scary and iconic. Just the chestbursters.

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scenes alone are some of the scariest moments in film. And when Alien came out 1979, long ass time ago. That's crazy. That's CGI back then. All practical effects, suits, artwork, and it holds up really, really well. These tangible props that they made, and it's terrifying, and it feels real. All that, and Harry Dean Stanton is in it. Yeah. R.I.P. And, you know, a female heroine, you know,

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There wasn't that many at that time. It was the start of Sigourney Weaver in those films. Yeah. Aliens probably should have been my number one. It is not. But while I liked Alien, Aliens was the first R-rated movie I went to go see in the theater as a kid. And it was on a snow day. My mom dropped me off, bought the ticket and sent me in because I don't know how old I was.

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But it was a snow day. There was nobody there. So I went and sat down on the front row and it fucking terrified me. That's probably the most scared I've ever been in a movie. Aliens is like a hybrid of horror and action, whereas Alien to me is a pure horror film set in a sci-fi universe. Yeah, it's like Alex was saying. Outside of the chestburster scene, it's like the

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the entire length of the movie up until like you actually see the monster it's just like you see these glimpses you see these like things like that whereas aliens it's just like full on over here and aliens over here and you know i mean it was it was definitely action yeah that's why i mentioned the pacing in alien it's perfect i think i don't think any of anything has done as justice as good as the first one but i will say this there's a scene in the latest one called alien covenant that i fucking loved and it was when they you know the

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The Oversized Dudes that are obviously the racial kind of genesis for the alien based on some stuff if you haven't seen the movie. Long story short they figure out a way to they go up there to kind of reanimate this guy and they reanimate him and they're thinking we're gonna and the guy who's in pushing this is like we're gonna get the answer or whatever it is how what knowledge they must have and the guy wakes up and the first thing he does is just fucking try to kill him he's just like fuck you and there's something disturbing about that scene to me that his first notion is destroy.

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You'd have to see it if you haven't seen it. It's really good. It's not as good as Alien, but it's pretty good. No, nowhere near as good as it's decent. In any case, Matt. I don't know how old I was when I saw this movie, but I know I was not old enough to be watching this movie. That's been mentioned before. The things that stick out about it for me are just the camera angle looking through Michael Myers masks where you can see what he's seeing. And the doctor

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those lines, pure evil, and just the theme song itself. My number one is Halloween. Nice. John. So I would like to say Mike was onto something when he mentioned Phantasm because I was actually petrified when I saw that film as a kid. However, I didn't go with it, even though I did like that film. George, I would love to have Game Over, man, Game Over as my film because that's still

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We use that phrase around our house all the time. Why don't you put her in charge? Yeah. But I have to agree with Markisan there is no film better at just pure terror in the middle of empty space. You can't be heard. I'm with alien is my number one too. When I saw that when they came out, just absolutely petrified me thinking that that thing came out of whose stomach or chest. And I,

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If I'm not mistaken, it's Ridley Scott, is it not? It's Ridley Scott, yes. And he followed that up right after that with Blade Runner, which is my favorite film, so I was in heaven back then. John, that's also my favorite film of all time. Just so you know, somebody is selling, I saw it in my Facebook feed or something, Coronavirus Quarantine Facehugger. Nice. I saw that, yeah. Will. Will. Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

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Perfect.

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Just what,

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but after all this alien talk and I can,

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I,

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you know,

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I almost feel like I should pick that.

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And I did think about that.

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I actually thought about alien,

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but,

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um,

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just,

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just talking about,

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and,

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and like when I saw that for the first time,

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all those visceral reactions that you guys were talking about,

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I was like,

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holy shit,

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that,

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that movie scared the absolute crap out of me.

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But so did the Texas chainsaw massacre and

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Texas Chainsaw Massacre to me was just more like, wow, how fucked up are these cannibalistic? Like just, it was just so messed up that, and just so raw and just like literally a guy like me, like me looking at this when I was, I don't even think I was a teenager yet. Just a guy running around the chainsaw, killing people and eating them. Like it's pretty fucked up.

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So that's what I'm going with.

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All right.

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Jay.

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All right.

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My number one doesn't require too much description,

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but it really fits under Matt's Matt's description of his film,

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which was when I saw this,

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I was too young to fucking see this.

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And it's funny and it's charming and it's weird as all the sequels came.

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When I saw evil dead for the first time at about 12 or 13 years old,

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it fucking terrified me.

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Well,

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the first one was not funny.

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As I recall,

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it's not funny.

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And it was,

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and I've seen it a million times since.

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It's probably my favorite horror film, but like where the pencil goes in the ankle and the so on and the so forth and everything. That movie fucked me up, man. I probably didn't sleep for two days. I was so scared. And then I made all my friends watch it. That's like, you're going to love it. And I swear to God, they all have the same reaction. It was the meanest thing to do to them. Anyway, Evil Dead for sure. Right on. Awesome. I feel like my number one's kind of lame, partly because I already did a Stephen King book. Is it Disney's The Witches with Bette Midler?

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No. Okay. It's another Stephen King book. And honestly, it's probably not that scary, although it's kind of relevant right now. But it was particularly the unabridged version of the book is just so crazy. I already know where you're going. The stand. Sure. Captain Trip and, you know, the Randall Flagg. Randall Flagg, yeah.

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Who shows up many times in various Stephen King books. Now we're going to say, isn't that kind of like his catch-all name? He uses it in a lot of different stuff. Yeah, he's like in Dark Tower. He connects the universes. Yeah, he does. So. All right. I guess that's it. All right. So we are in the homestretch then. All we have left is what we are listening to.

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Mike, what are you listening to?

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I actually had a playlist I started putting it away but

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last stuff I jammed

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I had

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over here

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Stormbringer

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in hearing of Atomic Rooster

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Leslie West

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Solo

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This Attila record, which very young Billy Joel. My Dying Bride as the Flower Withers. And as always, one of my favorites, Odyssey and Oracle by the Zombies. That album is absolutely amazing. Odyssey and Oracle? Absolutely love it. Oh my God, amazing. Yes, I agree. All right, Alex.

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Okay, I'll give you some metal and then some non-metal. So I just looked to see 2020 out on iTunes to see what I've been listening to a lot in 2020 or whatever. So Warp Chamber, the new Warp Chamber record that just came out, the new Funeral Leech, and Vadiat, their EP, is brilliant. The opening track is one of my favorite metal songs from 2020 so far, or maybe 2019.

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I don't know but I just thought it would. And then Slow Crush is the album that I've listened to or the band I've listened to the most this year. I'm thinking about with a record called Aurora. And that's like a grunge. It's kind of like a grunge hybrid with like kind of a super thing. Oh, Shoe Gaze. Shoe Gaze and Grunge. That's awesome. Shoe Gaze and Grunge and then Dream Pop and that record. I just can't stop listening to it. So that's cool.

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Last year? It came out last year, but I got it this year. And that's the record that I've listened to the most in 2020. And then Catherine Real Chrome. I've been listening to Chrome a shit ton. And a lot of Swerve Driver. The first three, four records. Cool. Yeah, I love that Slow Crash album. Yeah, it blows me away. Brent? I'm going to give a shout out to Cemetery Filth.

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They just put out a new album. I don't know if you see that. That's good. Yeah. Yeah, I really like those guys. They're friends of ours. And they finally put out a full length and it was worth the wait. Another band, they're a demo band, Undeath, from Rochester, New York. Young guys, but I really like their brand of death metal. And then probably my favorite album in the last year or so has been the latest Orpnagar, True North. Oh, yeah.

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I don't know. I haven't paid attention to those guys since the 90s. And I don't know. Their latest album really fucking blew me away. So I listen to that one a lot. The last one is really good, too. So if you haven't spun the one before it, it's actually quite good. I might even like the last one. I can check that one out for sure. I might even like the last one. The one you're talking about, Mark, is on a little better. But I didn't listen to this one until real late in the year or maybe even early this year. And I was like, gosh, I should have put it on my list because it's fucking great. I think it was on your list, John. Yeah, it was on mine. Okay.

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It was on my honorable mentions list, I know. But it did come out late in the year. Don. The newest My Dying Bride record, The Ghost of Orion. I've been listening to that a lot. That'll probably be one of my favorite records of the year, probably. That most recent Bulzer EP, Let's Say Majesty, that came out last year.

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from Switzerland.

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Yeah, they were at MDF two years ago? I saw them there in 14, and that was the first time I had even heard them. And man, they had such a strong sound for just being a two-piece. Their newest EP is really good. And a lot of Slayer lately. Hello8s mainly. Nice. Mark is on. Okay.

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to Forlacene, which is their album is called Hierophant Violent on Hypnotic Dirge Records. It's a stirring palatial mix of black, doom, dark, ambient, post-metal, and slowcore. It's one of my favorite records this year. There's only two songs on it, about 40 minutes long. I've listened to it every day since it came out. Disembowel Echoes of Terror on maggot stomp records is a dark bottle of old school death filled to the brim with syrup thick wrists.

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Siguria, Maiden Mother Crone on Burning World Records. It's a high-octane stoner doom with a big 90s rock influence on it. The singer kind of sounds like a mix between Kurt Cobain and James Hetfield. I love 90s rock, so it's really in my wheelhouse. Perdition Temple, Sacraments of Dissension on Hell's Headbangers records. Just a fucking death cyclone of venom and terror. It's really awesome. Yeah, man, it's awesome.

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Wayward Dawn, Haven of Lies on Target Group Records is another excellent old school death metal album with some of my very favorite riffs so far this year. Really flying under the radar. I think it's got like six people bought it on band. Yeah. Mammon's Throne, Forward Unto Flame on Black Farm Records. Kind of a grim, fuzzed out, stoner sludge doom record. And last but not least, Dark Forest, Oak, Ash, and Thorn on Cruise.

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It's really catching traditional metal with folk elements. Some top-notch songwriting on this. Think Iron Maiden merged with the Renaissance Festival and you'll kind of get the idea. It's really good and it will lift your spirits. It's a really fun record to spin. Markasson, you'll be happy to know that I think I spent about five or six hours in my backyard like mulching and weeding and everything and the entire time. We are happy to know that, Will. Yes.

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More importantly, I subjected my neighbors and my wife to Mammon's throne the entire time. I think it just it just repeated on loop for for hours. A bunch of for sale signs go up on your street. Yes. Yeah. You know, I'm not really into like a stoner doing that much. But for something about that record, I think they change it up enough that it really intrigues me because I thought they were.

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They keep one sound throughout the whole album, but they don't. I'm a big fan of the Stone and Doom, so I'm good with it. Matt? I'd like to refer to it as Stoom. Still really digging that Black Curse album, Endless Wound. Really enjoying the new Aranci Pazuzu. I will not say it in Finnish, but from what I read, that means Master's Fingernail in English, which I thought was interesting. The new Caligram, it's called The Eyes,

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The First Circle, Cemetery Filth, Dominion, a band called Svartkonst, which is, the album's called Black Waves. It's a one-man black and death metal band from Sweden. The new Ulcerate, as well as Shards of Humanity, Cold Logic. Nice. John? Okay, we've mentioned Chemists already. We mentioned Durante Pazuzu. And by the way, I'm happy that their album's doing well because I'm friends with their,

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I'm a current manager or a new manager

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that I've known for years.

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So I'm happy for her too

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that the band is doing well.

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We mentioned Shards of Humanity.

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I'm still spinning the Black Curse,

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Endless Wound a lot.

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I love that album.

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If you don't know it,

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Death, Black, whatever you want to call it,

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from Denver,

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Members of Chemists,

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Blood Incantation,

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Spectral Voice,

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and Primitive Man.

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I'm surprised no one's mentioned it yet.

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I don't even like Grancor.

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But I've been listening to the Chopin' Mall, mauled by a magical bear with scalding hot liquid cheese spraying from its eye sockets. I've been listening to that like that. And I've been spinning a ton, the new Sweevan, which is their debut, The Eternal Resonance, which is out of the ashes of Morbius Kron. I love that album.

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Cool.

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Yeah.

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Will?

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I've been listening to the human bondage, the abyss of being, wayward dawn, heaven of lies. The more I listen to it, the more I like the new dope lord, sign of the devil. There's something about their song that just, where they're just yelling at hell, Satan. And I played at the latter end of me mulching and cleaning up my backyard, having this blare to my, all my neighbors. It was quite, quite.

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Awesome. I think Alex mentioned Funeral Leech, Death Meditation. Fucking love it. I'm going through the list here. Blah, blah, blah. Madness Throne, which Markisan mentioned, which makes me super happy. And Seasick Gladiator, a local DC band, put out a new album, which is instrumental, but it's almost like they replaced a lead singer with a violin. It's fucking super awesome.

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I love it.

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Wake Devouring Ruin, Livatar Lightness, and Dan Klagen-Gar mentioned Necrovolt to Me and their new album Totenzug, Festering Something or Other.

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That's an odd title.

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That's weird that they had such a serious, yeah, first part of the title was so serious, then they were like, something or other.

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It's festering peregrination. Yeah. All right. You did pretty good with that. I assume you did pretty good with that. I'm going to, I don't have much to mention around Sipazuzu, the dope lord I've been listening to. I've also just been listening to a bunch of old shit just because we're all quarantined and I'm like listening to the whole catalogs of bands like Carcasses I mentioned earlier, things like that. I'd like to shame the rest of my fellow podcast members for not,

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I mentioned the Temple of Void fucking record, but whatever. I guess you guys just don't give a shit. That's implied. Implied. Guests. And that record's okay. I like your record. I like your record, guys. I think it's great. And we've liked all your records. So, nice job. I have been listening to it. I'm enjoying the hell of it. I'm walking six miles a day. It gets listened to quite a few times. Thank you. With that, I'm going to use, of course, and thank you for sharing your time with us, guys. Now, that stated, I wanted to get through my list fast because I forgot.

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I have to say my honorable mentions for the horror stuff mostly because these are movies I think people should see. The Midnight Meat Train is fucking awesome if you've never seen that. Dark City if you've never seen that. Not totally a horror film but a favorite of mine. Horror slash science fiction. And then finally a Norwegian vampire movie called Let the Right One In. It's so fucking good. I like that one. I just wanted to say them out loud in case any of our listeners are looking for good ideas. Those are all movies.

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If you guys haven't seen the movie Event Horizon, you should definitely watch that. Great. Especially the guy in that black dude. Sam Neill. Huh? Isn't also... Sam Neill and Morgan... Not Morgan Freeman. Lawrence Fishburne. Lawrence Fishburne. Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. Thanks. That's it. Passing it on to you, Joe. All right. That's for you.

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You will. It's not too bad. I actually had a reasonably short list, but then all this last minute stuff came up and it expanded. But it's not too bad. So the Temple Voy guys, hey, thanks for joining us. You don't need to stick around for the next 10 minutes while George goes through his list of all the shit that he's bought and listened to. No, I didn't even touch the scratch of the surface.

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So really, it was good talking to you guys. First up, benighted, obscene, repressed, grindcore. As John mentioned, the chopping mall mauled by a magical bear with scalding hot liquid cheese spraying from its eye sockets. An album that came out last year that I didn't find until a few days ago, consumed by vultures, Pseudo Biblion. That's a Swiss death metal band.

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Feed Them Death, Panopticism, Belong slash Be Lost. It's a second album from a UK death metal band. I think it might be a one-man project. One that's not coming out until June, but we got the promo for it, and I could not listen to it after hearing the band title. The band is called Fetal Juice.

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Oh, that rules.

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And the album is called Gluttony. It's actually pretty good. I like it. It is. It's pretty good. It's their second album. And I thought it would suck, but it's good. Mentioned previously, Funeral Leech, Death Meditation, a band called Molder. M-O-L-D-E-R. It's their first album called Vanished Cadavers, Illinois Death Thrash. It was their first album called Scully. Yeah. Not Molder. Molder. M-O, yeah.

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I didn't write down where these guys are from, but there's a band called Puncture Wound. Oh, wait, I did. They're Australian. It just went down the next line. The alliterative album title is Complete Carnage of Coagulating Cacaffinous Corpses. Wow. Australian Death Metal. Sorry? It sounds great. It's not bad. Slave One and their second album, Omega Disaster.

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Disciples, French Death Metal, Symbiotic Growth, self-titled first album. They're a prog black band from Ontario. This one's not out now, but it will be next week. And this is the new EP from Throssenblatt called Insula. Joel was on to, is one of our coronavirus war journal episodes, and he talked about this. It's a four song EP. Each of the four songs is a point from the Chris Hadfield.

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astronaut thing. I don't remember. It's a Canadian astronaut. Yeah. And it's based around this. I'm not being sarcastic when I say Canada has a space program. Yeah. I didn't know that. But it basically jump on our rockets. Yeah. Okay. But basically this EP, he wrote this EP during lockdown and it's very much about everything that's going on right now. And it's, I mean, it's Thrassemblatt. I'm a huge fan. It's awesome.

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A Band Called Two-Face Sinner, Spiritual Nemesis, their third album, a Peruvian Black Death Band, Vampire Squid, Reinventing the Eel, California Tech Death, Band Called Werewolves, The Dead Are Screaming, it's their first album, it's an Australian death metal band featuring two guys from The Berserker and the drummer from Psychroptic.

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And finally, the last item, out of Indiana, Witch Taint, Sons of Midwestern Darkness. Is that W-H-I-C-H? Alex immediately started cracking up. Is that because of the band name or do you know who these guys are? No, the band name. Okay. Yeah, Witch Taint. At first they were thinking whose taint and then they went with witch taint.

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And it is funny. They're like a tenacious DM. They're hilarious. I would really like to get these guys on because they're just fucking hilarious. They were live on Facebook yesterday doing some sort of interview. It was hilarious. I saw that. I want to watch that. So that's it. I can turn this off now. For my part, I'd like to thank you guys for putting up with what is a long form podcast. We're aware of that. But you've also just wasted four hours.

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for a lot of people who are in quarantine by spending your time with us tonight. Three hours for Mike. Also, we love you guys. We think you're a great band. Ouch. These guys, four hour podcasts. I'm coming out late. But I, you know, I tend to keep a little bookmark in my head of the bands that we've loved talking to. And I remember really enjoying talking to you guys last time. And it was just as fun this time. You guys are obviously like nice fucking down to earth metal heads with a fucking cool band. So.

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We had a great time too. We appreciate it. Yeah. Thanks for coming on. Can I back up one more time with our thanks to the first responders in your group? I mean that with all of my heart and I know the other guys mean it too. Keeps doing the good work out there and I promise you we'll stay home to try to make your lives a little easier. Thank you. All right. Thanks guys. Thanks a lot everyone. Very much. Hopefully I will see you all in August. If not, next time. We'll be there if we can. Yep.

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Thanks so much, guys. We appreciate all the support. It's been a lot of fun. We really dig it. Awesome. All right. We'll see you next album. Yeah. All right. Take care. Which may happen before anybody gets to even play shows again. All right. Thanks a lot. We'll talk to you next time. All right.