WEBVTT 00:00:00.020 --> 00:00:05.160 Metalhead Podcast, Metalhead Podcast, go! 00:00:26.180 --> 00:00:27.840 You must listen. 00:00:28.899 --> 00:00:30.060 You must listen. 00:00:31.460 --> 00:00:32.460 You must listen. 00:00:36.379 --> 00:00:40.400 Now, here is the podcast, Metal Heads Podcast Go. 00:00:41.020 --> 00:00:42.340 Hello and welcome to the Metal Heads Podcast. 00:00:42.550 --> 00:00:43.300 My name is George. 00:00:43.940 --> 00:00:44.500 This is Jay. 00:00:44.720 --> 00:00:45.220 This is Will. 00:00:45.620 --> 00:00:46.280 This is John. 00:00:46.860 --> 00:00:47.460 This is Matt. 00:00:48.060 --> 00:00:49.000 This is Markisan. 00:00:49.420 --> 00:00:54.800 And we are joined today by someone we have probably mentioned many times, but we have never had on. 00:00:54.960 --> 00:01:24.720 And I just learned how to pronounce his name. Dan Clanchar. Welcome, sir. Hey, guys. Hey, hello. Welcome. Was it Clanchar, though? Was it Clanchar? Clanchar. Sure, whatever you guys want. We're going to call you. No, no, no. One of us is right. One of us is wrong. We're just going to call you Timmy for the rest of the night. Timmy. Yeah, no, it's all good. Yeah. So if the audience is confused, this is actually Dan Cladgencar. 00:01:27.020 --> 00:01:54.920 That's how we've been pronouncing it anyway. That guy we talk about up in Winnipeg that we don't know how to pronounce his name, but there you go. So Winnipeg, huh? Winterpeg, too. Well, Winterpeg, isn't that what they call it? That's what they call it on the hockey, when the sharks are up there. Yeah, that's about right. It's still pretty freaking cold out here, so yeah. It's supposed to be snowing north of here this weekend. It did. It snowed in Buffalo. Is that right? How cold is it up there, Dan? It's well... I'm saying American, not Canadian. Yeah, see, there you go, because I don't know what it would be 00:01:54.940 --> 00:02:22.280 I think I can do it. Tell me and I'll tell you because I know the formula. Well, today it was like a balmy 10 Celsius. Okay, so that equals what you do is double it and add 30. So that is 50 degrees here. There you go. So, yeah, I learned that from my cab driver in Ireland. My sister taught me that because she lives in Norway. Did I get it right, Chase? Did I remember it right? Yeah, it sounds right to me. Double it and add 30. But Dan, I don't think you and I are horribly far apart. No. 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:53.400 Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think we're about just over six hours away from each other. Yeah. Which is like, you know, six degrees. Yeah, I'm 40 degrees right now. You can't get it. Let all meteorologists do it. I'll bet you any money, Matt, you can get to Dan's house a lot faster than Will and I can get to George's house. Yes. Before the end of this episode. Yes. Yeah, probably. 00:02:55.720 --> 00:02:58.980 I did drive to John's house in the middle of an episode once. 00:02:59.540 --> 00:03:00.480 That was pretty funny. 00:03:04.900 --> 00:03:10.880 Yeah, it's actually one of the questions I have for you, Dan, is just, so you're in Winnipeg. 00:03:12.320 --> 00:03:14.960 What's the local music scene up there? 00:03:15.430 --> 00:03:19.700 And when you don't have local music, and I know sometimes you drive down to Minneapolis. 00:03:20.700 --> 00:03:21.000 Yeah. 00:03:23.700 --> 00:03:52.200 That's a six-hour drive to go see a show. Yeah. And I'll gladly do that anytime if the right band is playing. The local scene here is actually pretty good. Actually, there's a pretty strong... There's a lot of good local bands, for sure. And you get a wide range. You get anything from grind to death metal to punk. I'm sure you guys have probably heard of Propagandy, right? They're probably one of the bigger punk bands around. 00:03:52.340 --> 00:04:22.280 and they're from here. All of them except for their newest member. I think she's from California. Metal bands, sure. There's quite a few from here as well. So I think, Will, I think you actually like that band Wilt a lot. Yeah, I do a lot. Yeah, right. Yeah, they're from here. There's a famous audio clip we play sometimes because, as you know, I'm not the biggest fan of black metal, but that album is like a beautiful symphony of black metal. I even have a sample. 00:04:23.020 --> 00:04:52.280 It is this epically beautiful symphony of black metal. That's exactly what you said. Did you just tape that right now? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we do get our fair share of shows as well. We have a couple of promoters here, especially one called Ninja Cat Productions. They usually bring in all of the really big shows for sure. Like, I was pretty stoked. I was all set. Actually, it was yesterday. 00:04:52.360 --> 00:05:22.220 They were actually supposed to see Inter Arma for the first time, right? It was their first time here. Yeah, supposed to, right? Yeah. But yeah. Have you ever seen them? No, no, they've never. The closest that they've come through here was I think they played Fargo and I couldn't make it out that that weekend that they were in Fargo. But yeah, that is a show. How far drive is Fargo? Is that like five hours? No, Fargo is pretty. It's basically three hours tops. Oh, okay. Yeah. 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:51.200 That's pretty close. So, yeah. I complain driving an hour to Baltimore. So, how's the pandemic doing in your part of the world? Are you, is it, I mean, I don't know how, how, you know, it seems less populated than, you know, like New York City and areas like that. So, I would assume maybe it's not as bad. No, I mean, our province here in Manitoba, we've actually done a pretty good job with it. 00:05:51.260 --> 00:06:20.660 and handling with it. I think we're probably under 300 cases overall, which is... That's less than I have here. In the whole province? Yeah. So that means everybody has it. Yeah, well, right. Well, that's just good too, right? I don't think they nearly test enough as what they should be doing, but... That seems to be the case everywhere, man. Yeah, yeah. They just started actually opening up the city a little bit on Monday. 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:22.900 So now you can go to a patio, 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:27.700 but the patios have to be 50 at 50% capacity. 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:29.400 And you're still respecting, 00:06:29.960 --> 00:06:31.740 respecting social distancing as well. 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:32.320 Yeah. 00:06:32.640 --> 00:06:33.140 Yeah. 00:06:33.340 --> 00:06:33.680 I mean, 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:35.180 there's other parts in Canada though. 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:36.260 They're just getting nailed. 00:06:36.660 --> 00:06:39.120 Like a province of Quebec is just, 00:06:39.780 --> 00:06:41.700 and it's just out of control there right now. 00:06:41.860 --> 00:06:43.160 It's the French thing, 00:06:43.280 --> 00:06:43.360 man. 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:43.820 They don't get it. 00:06:49.960 --> 00:06:51.100 I shouldn't say that. 00:06:51.160 --> 00:07:20.620 Joel speaks French. Sorry Joel. How much? You ever seen Life of Brian? You're like, splitters! Yeah. I think more along the lines of Letterkenny and the Letterkenny guys versus the Quebec guys. The DGens? Yeah. DGens. Well, actually the DGens are north of Ontario. Oh, excuse me. Yeah. But, yeah. So, are you able to work from home or are you out of work at the moment? 00:07:21.140 --> 00:07:49.560 No, I'm working. I'm actually still going in. So I work in an office and it's probably about 250 people in this office or so. And I would probably say around 95% of the people are now working at home. It was kind of my choice to continue to still going in. It kind of gives me... Chance the rifle through everybody else's desk. If you don't lock it up, then you snooze, you lose, I guess. That's right. 00:07:51.780 --> 00:08:21.120 I think it's good for me mentally just to kind of get out there still and I feel pretty safe going to work like the people that are there we're all still respecting our social distancing there's sanitizer stations stations everywhere everybody's still washing their hands of course it's so it's I don't mind it at all to be honest. Hey Dan tell the truth you like the traffic situation don't you? Yeah. You know what actually since true but since they started opening up the city just in the last 00:08:23.220 --> 00:08:51.120 It's unbelievable of how it changed and like overnight. So you went from nobody on the street to gridlock. Yeah, it's crazy. Crazy. John, you'll appreciate this speaking of traffic. So at about 330 this afternoon, I got in the car with the kids and I drove on 395 South at 330. Friday, on a Friday, no slowdowns whatsoever went down the fair winds my old brewing because when 00:08:51.160 --> 00:09:20.840 The Franchise was on the other night. He had a bottle of double barrel age Ghost of the Mariner from Fairwinds Brewing Company, which is the second brewer I worked at. And the name is a rift between Ghost of the Navigator and Rhyming the Ancient Mariner. And when the franchise is like, yeah, they got it. I texted the brewer, Charlie, and I'm like, dude, you still got this? He's like, yeah, we got this. So I went down and helped myself to one. And I was also, 00:09:21.160 --> 00:09:48.760 would be completely ashamed of myself if we had Dan on as a guest and I did not have a big boozy stout to drink. As I know, Dan likes his stouts. That's awesome. Thanks, man. You know, it's funny because every time I go out here, doesn't matter what time of the week, what time of the day, I expect to hop in the car, get on the road and it's walking dead. 00:09:49.400 --> 00:10:18.040 And it, I, every, every single time it's like, there's no pandemic at all. There's just millions of people everywhere. Yeah. Actually for the first time I went out, well, we went to get a pizza tonight for supper and, and it's, and John, you would not recognize the traffic here, but tonight was the first time. Suddenly they're starting to slowly open some things up and there was traffic again on the freeway tonight. Not terrible, but I mean, before you could just, everybody, there was more a hundred mile an hour speeding tickets given out 80% more than the last. 00:10:18.740 --> 00:10:48.260 God knows how long because everybody's just fucking driving, man. They're going as fast as they can. What's ironic is Will and John know, and actually Jay probably knows too, how kind of boony I am. And despite that, the one road that I can take to get back into Frederick to civilization, every time it's a 50 mile an hour road, even now, every time I get on that road, somebody's doing 25, 30. And there's no passing the whole way. 00:10:48.740 --> 00:10:50.520 I'm like, God damn it. 00:10:51.340 --> 00:10:55.220 Are you out in the country yourself, Dan, or are you in town? 00:10:55.800 --> 00:10:56.740 No, right in the city. 00:10:57.100 --> 00:10:57.560 Right in the city. 00:10:57.720 --> 00:10:57.860 All right. 00:10:58.460 --> 00:11:02.920 What's the, maybe you already said it, what's the population of Winnipeg? 00:11:03.280 --> 00:11:04.500 It's pretty small. 00:11:04.700 --> 00:11:05.040 It's 300. 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:05.900 He said it earlier. 00:11:06.300 --> 00:11:08.580 No, it's around 800,000. 00:11:09.820 --> 00:11:11.000 Oh, that's not that small. 00:11:11.130 --> 00:11:12.860 I mean, I was in Calgary. 00:11:13.020 --> 00:11:16.880 I went to Calgary last year for the first time, and I was surprised at how not big Calgary was. 00:11:16.890 --> 00:11:18.560 I didn't realize it's not a real big town. 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:45.240 Yeah, it's about 15 hour drive. Jesus Christ. Listen, you know what you're reminding? Everything's six or 15 hours from here. It reminds me of Oh Brother We're Out There. You remember that movie? Yeah. Where he's like, he wants to order some pomade and he goes, yeah, it'll take two weeks to get it. And he goes, well, forget it. I need to get this car part. He goes, okay, it'll take two weeks to get it. And he says, wasn't this place a geographical oddity? Two weeks from everywhere. Yeah. 00:11:48.680 --> 00:12:18.620 movie. You hated that movie? Why? I think I'm not smart enough for it. Everybody else loves that movie, and I'm like, it's kind of boring. I mean, now it's based on the Greek thing, which I like, all the Greek stuff. The Odyssey. The Greek thing really kind of resonated with me. I mean, it's fucking funny. Yeah, I just didn't get it. Granted, I watched it once, like, what, 20 years ago? Let's just go back to the part that you weren't smart enough to get it. That has been my... 00:12:18.680 --> 00:12:48.620 Exactly. I need to watch it again. And maybe I'll be like, oh, maybe I just had a bad day. Sometimes you have a bad day. You just hate whatever you see, you know. Maybe you just didn't understand humor at the time, George, and now you do. I don't know. Based on my Facebook Messenger posts, do you think I get humor? I don't read those. That sort of answers the question. Dan, I always post a photo on the podcast when we're recording and it's some old-timey radio bullshit thing so that people 00:12:48.700 --> 00:13:16.760 just because it's a thing I do. And I wanted to just point out to you that we're interviewing you. You're with us tonight. But I purposely misspelled your name. So I don't want you to think I did that. No, that's perfect. I would expect nothing else. It goes on for about 16 letters. Oh, that's the best. And no vowels. Clench and jerker. No, that's just it. I remember I had a friend saying, I'm pretty sure you're missing a couple of vowels. 00:13:20.020 --> 00:13:46.140 But before you got on, I told Will and John, I said, in my world, J and N don't go together unless there's an OH in the middle. For John. Anyway. That was the same response villain I had. I was like, yeah, okay, whatever, you weirdo. I mean, people can't pronounce my name either, so I understand. Mark Anus? 00:13:49.140 --> 00:14:16.140 Collagencar does sound like an emperor of death metal, so I'm kind of disappointed that's not it. Yeah, I think it sounds like an old jalopy, like, you got a Collagencar, dude? Those were all gone. Did they get up by Yugo? Right. Right up there with the Studebaker. So I like to ask everybody that comes on that's actually heard the podcast, how did you come about to hear and find out about us? 00:14:18.660 --> 00:14:48.620 Like from what I could remember, it was, uh, I think it all kind of stems, uh, through Adam Tepedilla just because it was when the book just came out, I guess. And I think he was promoting it on Twitter. And I think I commented on something that he said, and then I think Will did as well. And then we had a little bit of a back and forth. And from what I can recall, I think it all happened from there. And I don't know, Will wasn't on the podcast at the 00:14:48.640 --> 00:14:51.200 time, but he might have been guesting here and there, I believe. 00:14:51.710 --> 00:14:52.720 So that's a pretty long time ago. 00:14:52.860 --> 00:14:55.180 I think I guessed it the first time in like 2014. 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:56.340 Yeah. 00:14:56.340 --> 00:14:57.700 You were like the end of the first year. 00:14:58.400 --> 00:15:00.680 So whenever that, I can't remember when the book came out. 00:15:00.900 --> 00:15:01.840 Was it, was it around? 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:06.220 It was 2012, 13, I think. 00:15:06.540 --> 00:15:07.360 Is that when the book came out? 00:15:08.040 --> 00:15:08.180 Yeah. 00:15:08.490 --> 00:15:09.300 Because I, okay. 00:15:09.560 --> 00:15:12.420 It was out by the time we started the podcast. 00:15:12.880 --> 00:15:13.020 Yeah. 00:15:13.030 --> 00:15:14.200 It was like 2012, 20. 00:15:14.290 --> 00:15:14.580 I know. 00:15:15.520 --> 00:15:15.720 Okay. 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:17.180 Well, or maybe. 00:15:17.490 --> 00:15:18.100 Let me check. 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:47.760 I think it's 2013 Will because I was already living in my new house. Yeah. I was just out of high school. But we did not know about the book until Will introduced it to us. So maybe that made it seem like a new thing at the time. Yeah. Yeah. Like the shit this thing is. I have a pristine copy. That's right. I remember making. I actually remember making a comment about that Will because I think you had it in some bag or whatever that you always took it with you everywhere. Yeah. I had a. 00:15:48.440 --> 00:16:18.180 It was in my rucksack. Yeah. God, I wish I had my glasses right now. I remember seeing it look. Yeah. Holy shit. Okay. No, you hold on. So we know how you started listening. Why do you still listen? Now that you know what we talk about. It's fun. It's weird in the sense that I think. Just stop there. It's weird. No, no, no, no. It's weird in the sense because I obviously I haven't met any of you guys. 00:16:18.420 --> 00:16:23.760 person before or even until really today other than like messages on twitter or 00:16:23.980 --> 00:16:28.440 facebook or whatever it is right yeah listening to the podcast it's just like yeah you know 00:16:28.550 --> 00:16:33.360 these are guys i would probably hang out with for the most part if they were in my city and i'd be 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:39.880 going to shows with them definitely so i think that's what it is it's that and i think age wise we're all 00:16:40.060 --> 00:16:48.400 kind of give or take you know around around the same for the most part so except for mid to late 00:16:51.300 --> 00:16:53.060 Yeah, there you go. 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:54.040 62. 00:16:54.810 --> 00:16:55.960 But I think that's what it is, though. 00:16:56.820 --> 00:16:58.280 No, you know what, dude? I can relate to that. 00:16:58.750 --> 00:17:01.400 I used to listen. I hadn't listened to it in a while, but I used to listen to... 00:17:01.400 --> 00:17:03.880 In fact, I talked to George about this when I was first on the podcast. 00:17:04.660 --> 00:17:07.939 And I used to listen to Tell Him Steve Dave, that podcast. 00:17:08.220 --> 00:17:08.860 Yeah, I still do. 00:17:09.380 --> 00:17:10.819 And I used to feel like I was hanging out with those guys. 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:15.260 I was like, I could totally go in there and just have the best conversation with these guys. 00:17:17.819 --> 00:17:18.380 I totally... 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:48.360 came around because of Kevin Smith. Really? Yeah, because I used to listen to his various podcasts. Tell him Steve Dave. He's not on that one, I don't think. But, you know, it's tangential to him. And then I met him in D.C. in 2013, 2014. It was probably 2014. It was probably like right before I started it. And, you know, if 00:17:48.560 --> 00:18:16.620 I haven't listened in a while because I don't know that I have a podcast. I don't have time to listen to podcasts, but he would always be like, start your own damn podcast. I don't do anything special. Just grab a couple of friends, set up a microphone and talk. And when I met him, you know, he was just, and his motto is don't meet your heroes, but he was fucking awesome. He was like the most accommodating and friendly person that you could ever meet. And I left there going, I'm going to do what he said. I'm going to start a fucking podcast. 00:18:17.620 --> 00:18:47.560 And so I've tried twice now to contact him through Twitter to be like, dude, you inspired this podcast. You need to come on and talk about like, why the fuck is King Diamond in Clark's too? And, and I thought by the way, they love him. They, I, they, I was listening to Tom, Steve, Dave one time when they were all saying what their favorite merciful fate songs. Just this last fall, I saw a picture of him with, with Kevin and Jay. Jay Muse. Yeah. Yeah. No, they are like legitimate fans to those. I think that Jersey bunch, the guys, when they were kids, 00:18:47.620 --> 00:19:17.260 were listening to the same shit we were. And I could totally see why King Diamond would have appealed to that group. Yeah. And so I thought maybe the way to go is to go through Brian and be like, if I could get a hold. Because Brian always like on Comic Book Man, he's always wearing the metal shirts and stuff. And I was like, maybe if we could. Yeah, I think he's the most misanthropic. I think he'd be like, fuck this email. I'm not going to read this shit. I know, probably. I have to elaborate on your story a little bit, though, because you told this story a couple of years ago now. And it was such a funny story. 00:19:17.300 --> 00:19:18.220 And I remember, because 00:19:19.280 --> 00:19:20.760 you told this story, and you were like, 00:19:21.140 --> 00:19:22.940 so I reached out to you, like, you told him the whole story 00:19:22.980 --> 00:19:25.060 that you just told, and then you were like, and so I reached out to him. 00:19:25.320 --> 00:19:28.120 And I Was like, hey, you know, this thing, you know, this, 00:19:29.180 --> 00:19:30.780 I have a podcast, and I was wondering if you could probably, 00:19:30.860 --> 00:19:32.100 you should check out, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:19:32.140 --> 00:19:32.980 And it went on and on and on. 00:19:33.040 --> 00:19:35.360 You told the story for the longest time, and the end of it was that sentence. 00:19:35.580 --> 00:19:37.640 And then you said, and then you paused for about three seconds, 00:19:37.760 --> 00:19:39.400 and you said, but I never heard from him. 00:19:39.940 --> 00:19:40.660 That was the end OF THE STORY. 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:44.240 I just love that it was like this passion, passion, passion, passion, 00:19:44.520 --> 00:19:44.800 buddy fucking. 00:19:44.860 --> 00:20:14.480 Well, he's so, so very active on Twitter. I thought maybe if I sparked a little recognition of the fact, because he offered to give me a ride home if I missed the last train. You should have taken that ride. I know, I know. I'm too fucking honest. I couldn't just blind be like, yeah, I missed the train. You know, but I tried again like a couple months ago and still didn't hear anything. So did you watch that latest thing? I didn't watch the new one. 00:20:14.500 --> 00:20:43.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's awesome. I loved it. I cried a lot. Okay, cool. It's like on Netflix now or something. So I bought the Blu-ray as soon as it was up. Okay, cool. I will watch it. Anything he puts out, he can, he can make German Shaysa videos and I'd be like, I support this man. I'm going to buy that. Have you seen him live? I kind of like that anyway. So that's not really. Yeah, that's how George met him. Yeah, he did. They did the super groovy cartoon movie. They, they played it at the Warner here and they did a little, they did. They, 00:20:44.520 --> 00:21:14.400 That's my favorite thing, when he just goes around and tells stories about things. Yeah. I love how he does. The other reason he would totally fit on this podcast is when he does the speaking things, they ask one question, and that's the whole two-hour segment. And he doesn't, you know, nobody gets a second question in. I'm like, dude, you belong here. Let's do a t-shirt beer check. Man, you're going off script, but let's do it. Oh. It's actually on the script. 00:21:14.500 --> 00:21:43.980 There's a fucking script. Yeah. But all right. I'll count you off in the squares that I see you. But we're going to start with Dan because you're first. So T-shirt, and are you drinking anything? I am. Well, since I'm hanging out with a bunch of Americans today, I'm drinking a beer. It's a barrel-aged Russian Imperial Stout, and it's called Fake News. There you go. Well played. 00:21:44.500 --> 00:22:13.460 Yeah, so locally brewed. Actually, probably about a good 10 minutes away from here. First time I've had this one, the barrel-aged version, it's nice. Definitely some oak, not too boozy. Yeah, it's very good beer, so yeah. And what are you wearing? Oh, I'm wearing an insect. Who are you wearing on the red carpet? I'm wearing an insect warfare t-shirt. Nice. Yeah, so. That's awesome. Yeah. All right. Actually, why don't we just go on order after that since. 00:22:13.500 --> 00:22:42.960 So we'll go with Margazan. Cool. I like the insect warfare because I just listened to a podcast on the murder hornet. So that is perfect. I'm wearing a bucket of blood like a baseball shirt. So bucket of blood is my favorite on Chicago. And what are you drinking? I'm drinking an Eclipse 2019 barrel aged imperial stout with banana and sugar. Interesting. 00:22:44.059 --> 00:23:13.280 I thought the banana might overpower it. I always worry about that with stouts, but it's really well balanced. Usually the eclipse does do a nice job. Cool. Matt? I am drinking a, let's see, it is a triple dry hop, triple IPA. It's called Thirst Encounters of the Third Kind. It is by a brewery called Blackstack from St. Paul. It is for their third anniversary. And I am sporting a Trypticon t-shirt purchased. 00:23:13.500 --> 00:23:43.400 at the Decibel Middle and Beer Fest, Philadelphia, the 2019 version. Nice. Every time it comes up, I beg Dan to come down to this thing and hang out with us. And now look what happened, Dan. It's always around. It's always in April. And in every April, we always do a lot of traveling for my daughter's basketball. And yeah, we do end up usually going to the US. 00:23:43.520 --> 00:24:13.480 but it's not any farther than like say Grand Forks or Fargo or anything like that right but it's just like I just can't do two trips in the same month right so yeah understandable in any way not with that attitude um John what are you drinking and wearing John what are you wearing what are you drinking I'll say what I'm drinking first I'm drinking Brimminghorn Meadery Freya's Kiss just got it in the mail 00:24:13.520 --> 00:24:43.420 the other day. Thought I'd have that. And a few people on the podcast like this band, but I wore this for Dan because he's been going on and on about this band, how much he loves their new album. I'm wearing my Ron C. Pazuzu shirt. Right on. Cool. I can't see it. There we go. All right. Well, well, like, 00:24:43.520 --> 00:25:12.840 I said earlier I made a special trip today. I took a field trip with my kids down to Fairwinds Brewing just to pick up a double barrel double bourbon barrel aged imperial stout called Ghost of the Mariner which is a riff off Ghost of the Navigator, Iron Maiden and Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner. And so I'm drinking that. I went down there and got that because the franchise had one the other day. I'm like oh yeah I like that beer. 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:43.460 And then I am wearing my Mortiferum shirt from when they played at Atlas. I like this shirt because it actually says, you know, the date and Atlas Brew Works on the back. I like it because I have one different variation, but same logo. I like it because it is just impossible to read. Yeah. It was such a good set. And they're the nicest fucking guys. That was a really good set. Yeah. I have to report what I just drank and then what I'll drink later. 00:25:44.120 --> 00:26:13.380 I'm not going to drink any beer right now because it would be a waste of money because I'm really fucking full. But I had, oh man, there's this fucking wine we've been buying, this Infandel thing from a winery here that I can't even remember the name of. And then in the fridge I've got the Supercluster, Lagunita Supercluster, which is this one I've discovered recently I kind of like. 21st Amendment, so that'll be after the pod. And I'm wearing, I obviously got on the website the other day, another carcass t-shirt. This is the Under the Scalpel Blade, so this would be for the new, 00:26:15.120 --> 00:26:43.240 I like how it looks like the UN logo. It does. I know. I actually like it too. Even the colors are right, right? Yeah. More or less. It is. It's from Jay's summer carcass line. I've got another one still. I've got this other one that's like, you know, the swan song Zeppelin 1976 world tour shirt. Like you'll know it if you saw it. That's a 77 black shirt. Yeah. That's one carcass did one and it's, and it's just this swan song carcass 2016 United States is fucking rad. Cool. 00:26:44.860 --> 00:26:50.560 I wore my shirt partly because it's awesome partly because it's Canadian for Dan my woods my woods of 00:26:50.560 --> 00:27:11.239 v prey woods three deepest roots and darkest blues and I started off with just a taste because I had to try it because Alex was so fond of it from temple avoid when we talked to them I've got some Viking blood but I'm just gonna have a taste of that and move on to the 00:27:13.340 --> 00:27:41.040 Chocolate Breakfast Stout. Did you order that, George, or is it like somewhere in your local place? No, that's just down the street. They had it on the shelf. Which one? Viking Blood. Yeah. Yeah, I just happened to, I was actually looking for the Chocolate Breakfast Stout, and I was like, wait, that says Viking Blood. Viking Blood's pretty easy to find. And it's just as expensive as the other. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. Noted. And I forgot it was a mead, is that right? Or was it? 00:27:41.240 --> 00:28:11.100 Yeah, that's really good. Alex was right on with that. Markisan, you like it too? Yeah, I mean... So bringing this back to our guest, what have you lost, Dan, in the metal sense? I know it sounded like Inter Arma was upcoming and you lost that. Right. Are there some other shows that you were anticipating that you're not able to go to? Or obviously you're not able to go to? Yeah. I mean, in April, we have an annual Metal Fest here as well. And while it's not, 00:28:11.300 --> 00:28:40.580 Gigantic. So it's two days and that was canceled. So on that. Wait, wait, you're saying you can go to the, the, the Winnipeg April two day metal fest, but you can't come to Philadelphia. There's a huge difference there. Well, I mean, come on, cut the guys in slack. You know, it's a, it's a 15 minute ride and I'm there. So yeah. Yeah. So we missed that. I think, I can't remember who it was. I think the second night cryptopsy was headlining. 00:28:42.260 --> 00:28:43.180 I think was, 00:28:43.710 --> 00:28:45.920 I think origin perhaps on the other night. 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:47.580 And I think wake was playing as well. 00:28:49.040 --> 00:28:49.260 Yeah. 00:28:49.350 --> 00:28:49.940 I can't, 00:28:50.330 --> 00:28:51.720 I can't even remember all the bands, 00:28:51.900 --> 00:28:52.940 but there was quite a few. 00:28:53.500 --> 00:28:54.760 Is wake from Canada? 00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:55.380 Yeah. 00:28:55.420 --> 00:28:56.560 They're from Calgary. 00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:57.580 Yeah. 00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:57.820 Okay. 00:28:57.960 --> 00:28:58.080 Yeah. 00:28:58.080 --> 00:28:58.340 Yeah. 00:28:58.550 --> 00:28:58.700 Yeah. 00:28:58.870 --> 00:28:59.100 I mean, 00:28:59.180 --> 00:29:00.340 that new album is good. 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:02.400 Those three right there is a solid lineup. 00:29:03.360 --> 00:29:03.500 Yeah. 00:29:03.560 --> 00:29:04.020 I can't, 00:29:04.140 --> 00:29:05.300 I can't actually recall, 00:29:05.600 --> 00:29:05.820 but in, 00:29:06.080 --> 00:29:06.880 in April alone, 00:29:07.050 --> 00:29:08.160 I think it was like, 00:29:08.340 --> 00:29:11.200 there was a decent show every week for the entire month. 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:41.000 And then in May, I was actually also pumped up because Flotsam and Jetsam was going to come here and I've never seen them before. But that's now officially postponed until May 2021 as well. Insomnium was supposed to be here as well. There was a few other ones as well. So yeah. Yeah. So yeah, we lost a ton. So. Hey, you know, we've been asking you questions about current metal, but we haven't asked you how you got into metal. Yes. 00:29:41.200 --> 00:30:09.580 You know, tell us where it started. Where did you go down the rabbit hole and end up the person you are today like us? Addicted to metal. There you go. I think it would probably be safe to say, like, I do have an older brother, an older sister. She didn't really listen to anything at all like that. I had a brother that kind of dabbled in it, but not really. Like, I remember he, if anything, he would borrow albums from friends. 00:30:10.620 --> 00:30:40.600 And, you know, like, say he borrowed Screaming for Vengeance, right? He would tape You Got Another Thing Coming. Whereas for me, I, like, dove into that album from start to finish. I gotta stop, yeah. I wanna hear more, but I just gotta tell you, I hated it when I was a kid, and people would go, and people would say, like, you like Judas, no, when I, people would be like, would you like Judas Priest? They'd be like, yeah, and they'd go, like, you got another thing coming, and they'd be like, get 00:30:40.640 --> 00:31:10.440 Yeah, no, for sure. So I think that's kind of how it all started. So indirectly, you can say influenced from my brother, but it was just more on the fact of him kind of borrowing albums from friends. But I'm the one that actually kind of really dove into those albums probably more than him. And then coming in junior high, I mean, really, I think you had an option to either listen to metal or hard rock or whatever it was back then, or you didn't. And that was basically it. So the school, 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:40.600 was kind of divided back then. But yeah, I guess I chose the hard rock side. So, and yeah, I remember. Was it like the difference between like the sharks and the jets? I don't know. Stoners and the jocks. It's the correct terminology is you chose the left hand pass. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. No shit. Sometimes the stoners were jocks. It was a good time though, for sure. Like I remember looking at shout at the devil and thinking that was probably the most 00:31:40.640 --> 00:32:09.960 most evil album cover of all time for the longest time. And those chicks were hot. Exactly. Honestly, it was. For about three minutes, it was. Yeah, and then you're like, wait, those are dudes? Oh, never mind. I remember I bought that album in a Kmart with my mom. My mom was with me, and I was sort of like nervous because I was pretty young. I was like 11 or something. And I remember I was like, oh, it's a shout the devil, and it just sounds, it's evil. 00:32:10.320 --> 00:32:40.060 But my mom never blinked an eye. She was just sort of like, whatever you want to do, I don't give a crap. I got punked twice like that. First shot at the devil and I was like, whoa, those chicks are hot. And then Poison came out and I was like, wow, these chicks are hot too. And I'm like, nope. Dan, what is the first metal record you remember purchasing for yourself? I guess I was 00:32:40.080 --> 00:32:45.980 I was really young and again I was with my brother and he was insistent that 00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:50.860 there was a great song on this album you should buy it or whatever and I was super young I was in 00:32:51.180 --> 00:33:10.060 elementary I don't know maybe grade five or grade six I ended up buying Rush A Farewell to Kings so that was the song he wanted you to hear closer to the heart closer to the heart okay and for him that was his song again he's the one song kind of guy right whereas for me it was everything else for me I 00:33:10.060 --> 00:33:40.040 I remember it was Cygnus X1 even as a little kid I was like I don't think I got it but I just thought it was just I loved it though so yeah yeah just you just keep talking for the rest of this podcast yeah you're speaking my language I even remember the price all right how much was it it was $3.99 for the gatefold album wow for the album yeah yeah all right and then so there must have been some game changers for you too where you were like something come into your life and you're like holy fuck you know I was screaming for vengeance aside 00:33:40.060 --> 00:34:08.879 Some band must have leveled you at some point and you were just like, that's it, man. Yeah, for sure. I mean, or any number of bands. Yeah, like round grade, probably when I was again in junior high there, started listening to other things as well, like punk and hardcore, et cetera, et cetera, and buying magazines all the time, anything to do with metal, right? Whatever was there. And I remember seeing always, there was always advertisements. Do you remember Hit Parade or Magazine? Yes. Oh, yeah. I would buy them for those. 00:34:10.780 --> 00:34:39.159 And I remember like there was like they were advertising like nasty savage and I remember Metallica was in there and I remember there was like maybe like a little small tiny little article about Metallica or whatever and so Kill Em All was already out so I missed the I missed that one but I ended up buying Ride the Lightning right completely blind and so for me I would say that was the album that actually changed everything for me. 00:34:39.760 --> 00:35:08.660 When I put it on, when I brought it home, I didn't even know what to think, right? Like fight fire with fire to start off with that. I was just like, I didn't get it. I just didn't get it at first. So yeah, but that's the album though. You know, it's, have you, have you watched Murder in the Front Row? It's on Amazon Prime now. No, I haven't. It's not on Prime. It just came out. It's a documentary about the Bay Area thrash scene. Yeah. Okay. It is mandatory watching. Absolutely. 00:35:09.160 --> 00:35:38.680 Right? Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. And there's a book too. Yeah. The book was first and then they made like a documentary style movie on it, but it is absolutely fascinating. And I finished it last night and then around 12, 12 o'clock midnight last night, I said, you know what? I'm now I'm going to watch the documentary on rainbow, like the rainbow bar and grill. That was in LA. It was really good. And, um, like, I didn't really understand the whole, the, the, the, the connection between whiskey. 00:35:39.160 --> 00:36:09.140 I didn't know that either yeah and that was fascinating and then I had my phone on me so I went on Spotify and I just started listening to Bonded on Blood I bonded by blood uh and it was like because I haven't listened that year I mean I remember getting it I probably didn't get that I probably got to be honest I probably purchased Fabulous Disaster okay my first one and then retroactively went back kind of like you got um Rided Lightning and then probably went 00:36:09.180 --> 00:36:39.120 and got kill them all you know what i can honestly say and this is makes me proud of myself is my first exodus was a tape trade before oh wow before they had any records out this um i used to get every copy of metal forces and shit i could find and you know those these were like zines really they were so unprofessional but they were still great full color and stuff and they always had the tape traders in the back and always saw everybody always had slayer exodus venom uh creator sometimes was in there and so i was like i gotta get one of these exodus tapes i traded some dude a 00:36:39.160 --> 00:37:09.120 for a live show for Exodus. And I was like, fuck yeah. Let's talk about that in a minute, by the way. How surprised were you that Kirk Hammett was kind of the start of that whole scene? Yeah. Because he influenced all those dudes around him. He started Exodus. He taught those guys how to play guitar. He introduced them to UFO and the bands they liked. He was kind of the beginning of the thrash scene, and I had no idea about that. That was crazy. Anyway, highly recommended, Dan. It's Murder in the Front Row just came out, and the book is a photo essay. But it's really, they gave him access 00:37:09.160 --> 00:37:36.840 to everybody. These guys from Possessed and Exodus and Slayer. Yeah. One of the things I was completely caught off guard by, and probably if I was good at math, I'd figure it out, but Larry Lelon. He was like 15 when Seven Churches came out. I was like, what? A couple of them were in high school. That's insane. Jay, that's why I asked you if they talked about Joe Saturani, because he taught all those guys. I knew that. 00:37:39.140 --> 00:38:09.080 Not that it's a crime that he's not in it, but he literally, and I think somebody had asked him recently, would you think of Kurt Hammond when he was with you? He said, I knew he was going to be great. And of course the Twitter verse and Facebook, whatever, everyone started trashing Satriani. I'm like, okay, yeah, you're, you're the guitar God. So you knew what, what Kurt Hammond was like, you fucking assholes. It was just interesting to hear him talk about him as a student. Why are they trashing Satriani? Because they said he was just saying that just to get some press because it was 30 some years later. 00:38:09.140 --> 00:38:09.940 or whatever. 00:38:10.540 --> 00:38:12.460 Do they know who Joe Satriani is? 00:38:12.660 --> 00:38:13.600 No, that's the whole point. 00:38:13.820 --> 00:38:14.980 Yes, they don't know who he is. 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:18.480 Because you would never say that. 00:38:18.860 --> 00:38:21.660 I mean, the guy taught Steve Vai, who's considered, you know, 00:38:21.820 --> 00:38:24.480 whether they like his music or not, one of the greatest guitarists ever to live. 00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:26.780 You know, so I just find it. 00:38:27.080 --> 00:38:27.760 Did you watch it, John? 00:38:27.820 --> 00:38:28.720 I forgot if you watched it yet. 00:38:28.780 --> 00:38:31.160 No, I actually ordered it from a different site, 00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:34.360 and they just sent me a message that it was in the mail. 00:38:34.580 --> 00:38:35.760 So I'll be watching it soon. 00:38:37.119 --> 00:39:06.220 There is a passing mention of Satriani, but it is simply in Larry Lalonde talking about this Debbie Abano, who I'd actually heard of before, because I see her as manager on all these bands' album covers. And she died a few years ago, and I remember a bunch of guys on Twitter being like, yeah, she's gone. Anyway, she gave Larry Lalonde the money it costs to get lessons, and he mentions he got them from Joe Satriani. Satriani is only mentioned once in the whole thing, and exactly what Jay's talking about is the only time he's mentioned. And the reason why I asked, 00:39:06.260 --> 00:39:36.240 is because he was living in Berkeley at the time and all these guys were from the East Bay. I know Slayer of the Land is in El Sobrante now. A lot of these guys still live out 2, 3, 4, 5 miles from me. Which by the way, I might tell you guys, Ruthie's Inn is now a bookstore. It's still here, but it's a bookstore now. And that was the center of the scene. In any case, I'm the one who keeps digressing. So that would maybe also have been not quite extreme metal, but one of your first slightly extreme 00:39:37.260 --> 00:40:05.760 experiences, Dan, did you, I mean, when was the first Bathory or Exodus or Slayer that came into your life? With all due respect to, you know, fight fire with fire. Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. Yeah. So, like, so what was the next one? You know what? I don't, I don't know. Maybe, maybe what's that second sepulchral? Schizophrenia, right? 00:40:06.260 --> 00:40:36.140 Yeah, yeah. Most likely, I'm pretty sure it was a buddy of mine that had it on cassette. I remember borrowing it off him, and I think my deck ate it. But besides that, though, yeah, I think that was probably it, though, yeah. The pain of cassettes. How many people borrowed a tape from a friend, had their tape deck eat it, and wrapped it up and gave it back to him without telling him? I had a bunch. When I got my Walls of Jericho Halloween cassette, I thought that thing was so badass. Because at the time, you know, 00:40:36.180 --> 00:41:04.180 There wasn't anything quite like that. And I let a friend at school borrow it and never saw it again. And he was just like, what are you talking about? I don't know if he just liked it so much. He didn't want to give it back or if it got eaten and he didn't want to tell me. But it's the last day I saw that tape. You know, what's funny is, you know, we're talking about this and, you know, back when physical media was the only media for music, I remember almost getting in a fight with my buddy, Vern Moyer. Because his name is Vern. 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:36.140 No, you guys met Vern. He was at one of the shows and he's the guy who introduced me to Slayer. Okay. Yeah, I remember him. He was at Atlas. Him and his wife came to Atlas. Anyway, but we found Sacred Reich's ignorance on CD and you could never find this in our area. Never, never, never. And we love Sacred Reich. And then when we found it, we almost like, I remember a physical altercation, like kind of like good natured, but we were 00:41:36.220 --> 00:42:06.100 We're like, no, this is the only copy we have. And now you're on digital. You're like, hey, you want to borrow this? Yeah, but I've had that fight. Yeah, me too. Not about Sacred Reich, but I just, you know, like there's one copy, motherfucker. Yep. It's you or me. Metal Thunderdome. The early years. That's weird because we never fought over A-Tracks. I don't know why. Yeah. You can keep it. 00:42:06.180 --> 00:42:12.160 I don't want to. I'm not wasting the gas money for this album. 00:42:13.240 --> 00:42:36.120 Drive around. Actually, this is actually a real question. Did they have eight tracks that were not in cars? Yes. My friend had a boombox with one. Yeah. I had one and I, and we had, I didn't even have that. It was, I don't think I had any metal for it at all. And I remember we had a kid, the Kenny Rogers gambler album, whatever the song, the gambler was on. Um, Dan, what was your favorite? 00:42:36.180 --> 00:43:06.040 What was your first concert? Metal concert. First metal concert was the Scorpions. That's a good first one. Yeah, I saw the Love It First Thing Tour. Nice. Was it in Winnipeg? Yep. Are you originally from Winnipeg? Have you been there your whole life kind of thing? I have, yeah. Born and Raised here, yeah. Sweet. So did you then go to watch, did you ever see Worldwide Live, the DVD slash VHS? Yeah. Yeah, I remember renting that when I was a kid. Me too. 00:43:06.160 --> 00:43:32.820 And it was when the Scorpions were still okay. Yeah, I totally love that live album. They're still okay. For me, it was like reliving the concert. No, no, no. I mean, their output was still okay. I just don't think they put any good records out since then. But they still sound great live, yeah. Currently, they're putting a new one. Yeah, see, there you go. I mean, and I'm not interested, but I did see them live a few years ago, George, and they were great. Yeah, yeah. But I would love to have seen them like on the Blackout Tour or something. Yeah. Yeah. 00:43:36.180 --> 00:44:05.660 I'm going to ask a question that Markisan posed to me and hasn't posed himself yet. So I'm going to do it for you. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know if my thing will work. So, so far, so good. But Markisan was like, what, what, what, what three metal albums would help people understand you as a person? Oh, geez. Probably should have told you that ahead of time. Yeah. Well, the homework there. You know what? Giving you all these lists. We're going to start with three, move you to five and then 10. Right. 00:44:06.180 --> 00:44:35.440 That's actually pretty tough. Like, I don't know. Like, Arise from Sepultura. Because Max wears cargo shorts and I wear cargo shorts still sometimes. So, yeah, I don't know. Like, camouflage cargo shorts? Yeah, camo ones, right? No, not right now, though, no. They're just basic green. But I think I like Neurosis a lot. They're kind of a bleak band. 00:44:36.160 --> 00:45:06.140 I guess sometimes I'm kind of a half empty person but I still like to have a lot of fun and that album makes me feel really good so maybe maybe something from Neurosis maybe I don't know Souls at Zero or something like that that's a great album early stuff early stuff yeah yeah I like Through Silver and Blood and Times of Grace as well those those those three are probably an enemy of the sun those first four I guess other than Pain of Mind are probably my favorite there so okay and then for a third album 00:45:06.160 --> 00:45:36.140 I like beer a lot. So and I like metal. So maybe Trappist about the Trappist album. What's it called ancient brewing tactics or something like that? There you go. There you go. So 20 songs all about beer. And yeah, there you go. That's me then. They played they did a like a tour and they played all these breweries and they played Atlas and I was not at that show. I forget what I was. I was I was somewhere. I don't remember where. I was probably on 00:45:36.600 --> 00:46:06.000 It has to be like I'm out of town. And so I must have just been out of town probably with the family doing something somewhere. And that's a neurosis guy. Dan, I think it was Scott Kelly just announced he's got a new record coming out. Just Steve until Steve until excuse me. Yeah. Yeah. He's always got something coming out. Doesn't he know? Yeah, he doesn't stop. Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm a huge neurosis fan. Like, well, you know what? Not so much. Anything after through silver, I kind of, 00:46:36.360 --> 00:47:05.620 Storm or Sun Never Sense? That's my favorite. Not my favorites. No, no. Like, you know, I think just a little bit of maybe not too much of a departure, whatever. I mean, bands change, you know, they evolve, whatever. But for me, there's that group of four albums from Neurosis that I just truly love. So yeah, yeah. We all we all like what we like, right? Great. Yeah. And have our little pockets like that. Yeah. Yeah. I learned a long time ago that there was a point there was this point in my own metal journey. 00:47:05.660 --> 00:47:07.600 And I think we all probably experienced it where you realized 00:47:08.020 --> 00:47:10.020 I can admit I don't like a record by this band. 00:47:11.180 --> 00:47:11.760 You know what I mean? 00:47:11.820 --> 00:47:14.960 Like where you're like, I can't, because there was so much about metal in the 80s 00:47:15.060 --> 00:47:17.440 was this kind of like macho representation bullshit thing. 00:47:18.220 --> 00:47:22.840 And I can remember like it took, I had to learn some hard lessons to be like, 00:47:22.940 --> 00:47:23.280 you know what? 00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:25.660 I fucking, these guys are my heroes, but I don't like this. 00:47:26.080 --> 00:47:26.440 Whatever it is. 00:47:26.520 --> 00:47:26.780 All right. 00:47:27.240 --> 00:47:28.620 We'll learn that in 1991. 00:47:28.900 --> 00:47:29.320 You know what? 00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:33.120 It's funny is I have to say this because, you know, as Jay say, it's like a, 00:47:33.200 --> 00:47:33.600 what do you call it? 00:47:33.660 --> 00:47:34.160 The running agenda. 00:47:34.180 --> 00:47:34.720 Running agenda. 00:47:35.080 --> 00:47:35.140 Yeah. 00:47:35.220 --> 00:47:35.300 Yeah. 00:47:36.640 --> 00:48:05.260 But as I was up late last night and I just watched Murder Front Row and I just watched The Rainbow, I actually went on Spotify because I don't fucking own it. I listened to the Black Album. I listened to, you know, like half of a song. I'm like, you know, let me just revisit this. Let me just think like, okay. And it was glorious. You know, it's been, what, 30 years. Sure. It still sucks. Oh, my God. It's still a flaming pile of shit. Like, I fucking hate it. 00:48:05.380 --> 00:48:35.340 Still! I went in with an open mind. Alright, Dan, Black Olimp. Yes or no? Yeah. No. I don't need it. I truly don't, though. I remember when it came out, and I didn't hate it, but I just don't need it. I don't care about it. George, someday you'll meet your Cinderella, and that slipper will go right on that. Well, hey, Brent from Temple of Void was behind me on that one, so I'm still basking in that glory. Did Brent go justice 00:48:35.380 --> 00:49:05.240 For All or he went Justice For All? He did, yeah, because everybody but Mike went Justice. I love that. I love that that made, who was it that was so upset about that? Well, I think Alex. Alex, I love that that upset him so much, too. He texted me the next day and he was still mad about it. But I love that because George said it best. Like, you put it in the best way, George, which is one of these bands, this is their best fucking record. And the other band, and John, I know you may argue. Yeah, I like Peace Sells more. And fair enough. 00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:35.060 You know, totally legit point of view. But to me, that's absolutely right on the money. Justice for Hell is not even close to being their best record. And it's not the only reason it's a better record. It's just whatever. Right. And like I told you guys, the only reason I chose those two, because I could have chose Master of Puppets or Ride the Lightning, but I chose them because it was the last albums before they went commercial, their sound. Yeah. So that was the reason why. No, I think I have to pick the next one, and I don't know how I'm going to follow that up. I really don't. You've got to work on that. 00:49:35.380 --> 00:49:39.060 I know. I'm not sure either. I was joking. You know, 00:49:39.900 --> 00:49:42.500 now I'll talk about it when we get to it. Cause we're going to talk about it in a little bit, 00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:45.360 but I love, I love that. It's been as hard as it's been though, 00:49:45.370 --> 00:49:48.120 to which I guess is the point, you know, like, I mean, especially for three of them, 00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:51.920 all three of them have been hard and pretty brutal. I've been hard for all three. 00:49:53.900 --> 00:49:56.460 Did you, uh, did you vote Dan? I did vote. 00:49:57.320 --> 00:49:58.820 Do you want to hold that, hold that George now? 00:49:58.890 --> 00:49:59.920 Or do you want to tell us what your vote is? 00:50:00.570 --> 00:50:01.360 Go ahead. Are you willing to tell us? 00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:03.080 Go ahead. Tell you how to vote. 00:50:03.780 --> 00:50:04.880 I voted for rest in peace. 00:50:05.020 --> 00:50:33.580 Oh, that's right. I think you even commented on that. It was easy for you to choose. It wasn't even close for me. So I'm the only guy here right now that voted for Metallica. It's not injustice for all. It's injustice for all. And it should end in a question. You also have to say the dots and it goes like this. Injustice for all. Oh, no, excuse me. And just ice for all. The dots are the lean forward. 00:50:33.580 --> 00:51:03.140 You know, when I did the Facebook poll, I did not know there was a character limit. So I got and justice dot dot. I didn't even get into three dots. It was just and justice dot dot. And that's all they would let me fit in there. I was like, what the fuck? Isn't it dot dot dot and justice? Right. No, I started with that, but then I got and just. So I got away with just justice. People would have got it. Yeah, I thought about doing just justice, but Facebook is bringing us all together. Yeah. 00:51:06.160 --> 00:51:33.020 All right. So moving on from three to five, Dan, what are your top five quarantine albums? Yeah, this is like we, I think we chatted a little bit this afternoon about this and it's definitely, I'm definitely missing a ton probably, right? I'm probably going to regret at least three out of the five that are on here. Right about the third or fourth week, you're going to be like, damn it. But that's the way it is, man. 00:51:33.080 --> 00:52:02.680 It's like the house is burning down. Pack your suitcase. Get the fuck out. What are you taking? What are you taking? Right. Well, I mean, this afternoon I was actually listening to it. So it made the list. I was listening to bloody kisses from typo negatives. Yes. Fine. Yeah. Number four. I actually have focus from cynic. So you're tweaking John's nipples again. What is this? And then every dog has to stay in the sun. 00:52:03.420 --> 00:52:33.040 Number three, this one would probably stay. The very first Wasp album. Oh, yeah. That is on my phone right now. I absolutely love that album. I do, too. I want to be somebody. I used to get made fun of by so many people because I love Wasp. That's a great fucking record. I love them up to Headless Children. Headless Children, I fucking love that album. One, two, four. It's just like, yeah. One, two, four. Last Command is amazing to me. Headless Children's okay, but 00:52:33.040 --> 00:53:02.400 Singing Children is not. Yeah. Inside the electric circus is kind of, I mean, I even liked it at the time, but it doesn't hold up. So I have to share some, well, first off, they were legit. You can easily write them off, but I remember getting like the Jump in the Fire single on the same day I got the Fuck Like a Beast single, and they sat next to each other fine. Nobody was like, who the fuck are these guys? So there's that. But also I have some trivia about that record. I remember reading an interview with Blackie Lawless at the time. Who was one of my favorite people in the 80s? It was James Hetfield, Dee Snider, 00:53:03.080 --> 00:53:33.000 Yeah, I fucking loved him too. But he had a real focus. He was very smart. And his focus was that the first album was geared towards American audiences. Excuse me, the first side. The second side is geared towards European metal fans. And if you look at that record and the way it's split apart, side two is way more like a kind of Judas Priest record. And side one is a little bit more catchy, hooky stuff. Anyway, that's a great fucking record, dude. Wait, which record? The first one? Self-titled? Yeah. Huh. I'm going to check that out. 00:53:33.060 --> 00:54:02.360 And I was so crazy about that record, by the way. And I'm sorry, I keep going off on this stuff, but what that I looked in a magazine and they had a list of imports. I was buying imports, everything I could find at the time. And they had Wasp winged assassins. And I said, what the fuck is this? A Wasp record? Another one. They've got another record. And I ordered it. It was just the European name for that fucking record. Everything else is about it. It's the same, except on the spine, it says winged assassins. That alone, though, that would be worth the purchase. It was worth having it. Yeah, for sure. 00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:32.380 So I stopped you sir please continue Yeah no worries Number two I would say Human from Death That's probably my favorite Death album and I know Listening to this pod I know you guys Sometimes the Death albums rotate for you guys Which one is going to be your favorite Not for me that's my go to every time You're still preaching to John Yeah I know Markisan loves that album too I thought I was your favorite You know what we can do it again right now if you want I bet you I might answer different than I have every other time 00:54:32.420 --> 00:55:02.320 Leprosy. Yeah. Leprosy any day, every day. Symbolic. I'm going to stick with symbolic, me too. And I've said different things before, but symbolic for sure. I got mine. My, my leprosy guy says, I do your leprosy guy, Will. Hey, you know, it's funny as I wanted to make the joke that once I finally get back to, once I finally get back to work, the one thing I'm worried about is that on my desk at work is my scream bloody gore bobblehead. Yeah. And it's, I just hope it's still fucking there when I get back. 00:55:03.080 --> 00:55:32.380 Dude, my fucking cat broke the back off of mine. Which, I don't know how she jumped up on this high thing I'm pushing. Anyway, it's a clean break. I couldn't fix it, but I was so fucking mad. See, I'm the only one that was smart enough to keep mine in the box because the box is so badass. Yeah, I still have the box. I still have the box. I never opened mine. Did we get all five there or did we only do four? One more. One more. Yeah. Heaven and Hell from Sabbath. Nice. Damn, Dan. All my way down to 00:55:32.400 --> 00:56:02.200 Fairwinds today, got in the car with the kids, and Children of the Sea came on. All right, what's your favorite? Give me a couple of your two of your favorite tracks off Heaven and Hell. I'm trying not to choose the obvious ones, and you've already told me you don't, so there you go. Right, well, I mean, honestly, Children of the Sea. That would probably be one of them for sure. And if not to be obvious, then I would probably say Die Young then, so yeah. That's great. And if you are obvious? Yeah. And if they were obvious, Heaven and Hell. Also, 00:56:02.420 --> 00:56:31.820 Good choice though. But let's, here's something I have to say about that. One of my favorites on that record is that imagine that Ozzy left Sabbath. It's 1980, whatever the fuck it is. You're waiting to hear what they're going to accomplish with this new singer. And the first thing you put the needle on is neon nights. You knew everything was going to be fine, dude. That song is so fucking good. What's interesting to me is like, it sounds like two completely different bands. Like it's not even Sabbath. It's basically Dio. Like whatever Dio became is what Sabbath to me, 00:56:32.420 --> 00:57:02.380 The Way I Interpreted It Is Like What Sabbath Was Is What Dio Became So Like They Became An 80s Metal Band At That Point Yeah Basically Yeah But They Were No Longer The Old Black Sabbath But They Weren't The Old Black Sabbath Since Volume 4 So I Mean It's Not Like That Was A New Thing For Them To Change But You Know What Why One Of The Main Purposes Maybe For That Is Who Produced That Record It Was Martin Birch 00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:32.320 That was my guess. By the way, Jay, I do remember getting that album when it came out and hearing that and being like, what? Wow, who is this? Yeah, I do remember that. But it is Martin Burch, and so do not underestimate the influence that guy had on that fucking sound of their record and how he wrangled them in. I mean, that's the guy who took Maiden from Killers to Number of the Beast. In fact, I've just seen it now. He's probably 50% of why that record sounds the way it does. 00:57:32.400 --> 00:58:02.240 Were you familiar with Dio then? Like prior to this album? Yeah. It still blew me away though because I was like wait a minute. Right. And then Ozzy's album came out and then I was confused. Completely confused. And how fucking cool. How fucking cool that these two, this dying ship that was about to sink went to different ways and both came back. It crashed, sunk, 00:58:02.420 --> 00:58:03.340 and was resurrected. 00:58:04.020 --> 00:58:04.680 Yeah, to be sure. 00:58:04.910 --> 00:58:05.320 To be sure. 00:58:05.690 --> 00:58:09.240 So, but I still, I can, that's not how I experienced it. 00:58:09.250 --> 00:58:10.760 I heard Live Evil before I ever heard. 00:58:12.060 --> 00:58:22.400 See, and I can't, I don't like Live Evil that much because, well, I have a, Will kind of said it when he mentioned about the sound with Dio. 00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:26.820 I can listen to all the Dio songs that he sings on and I love them. 00:58:26.910 --> 00:58:32.260 But then when I hear him sing Sabbath songs, I'm like, and I would feel the same way, obviously. 00:58:32.360 --> 00:59:00.620 if Ozzy was singing Dio's song. I'd feel the same way. It just wouldn't ring for me. No, that resonates with me. I like those. I like Dio singing those, but I have heard Ian Gillen singing some of those, and it does not fucking work. You mentioned Children of the City, Dan, and that's the first song they actually ever wrote, Tony Aumi and Dio. There's no way, as much as I love both singers, there's no way Ozzy could sing that. 00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:32.220 I had a hard time hearing Dio try to sing NIB. It's just a personal thing, you know? Actually, that isn't a particularly good version on there, but I do think his version of the song Black Sabbath is pretty great. Well, I think that lends to his voice a little better. Yeah, yeah. But it's also, some of that stuff just, it's sort of, it's like putting a Corvette on a fucking dirt racetrack, you know what I mean? With all due respect, because I love that old Sabbath stuff, don't get me wrong, just. No, I agree, yeah. And Will's right, it was completely, completely different band. 00:59:32.360 --> 01:00:02.260 Yeah. You know, but that's what makes it so cool. Did Speak of the Devil come out before Ozzy's album? No. That's the third one. Yeah, it came out after. Oh, it did, right? Yeah. Actually, John, it might have. No, it's the third one. It was. Because Brad Gillis is a guitarist on there. Yeah. He is ripping on that album, too. And I know that because I saw Brad Gillis with Ozzy in 82. 01:00:02.380 --> 01:00:31.460 too. But I have to say, I thought that was one of the better Black Sabbath albums without Black Sabbath on there. Yep, for sure. Me too. Yeah. I'm willing to admit that's the first time I heard a lot of those songs. You know, because being of the age I was when that record came out, it wasn't like it is now where everything was spinning constantly on the internet. I mean, once Sabbath kind of disappeared with the Aussie version, it was just gone. You know, it wasn't everywhere. Oh, see, probably the only song I didn't know that well on there was Symptom of the Universe. I knew everything else already. 01:00:31.500 --> 01:01:01.460 because I was already a Sabbath fan. I mean, there's some of it, but. By the way, that's a great version of the Symptom of the Universe. Oh, it's amazing. It's so good. And Ozzy's wearing a wig on that, too, because he got his head shaved. He got his head shaved, yeah. He was drunk, yeah. I gotta hear someone look around it. He looked a little bloated, too. Yeah, he looks like shit. Oh, he looked horrible. I used to have this on a t-shirt, too. One of those t-shirts that 01:01:01.500 --> 01:01:26.940 She got the at the county fair, and it was like a really bad version. So I don't know if she got like jelly in his mouth. Is that supposed to be like a bit of a thing? He's mocking it. Yeah. Hey, Jay, is that what version is that? Because I was so tempted to buy that Aussie vinyl box set as much as I would not want like 70% of what's in there. I just wanted to get those early albums just because they look really good. 01:01:31.480 --> 01:02:01.460 in it's the re um what do you call it the recordings you know they went back they reverted to the original Don Aaron but not Don Aaron but you know what and it's got this amazing dvd that's just like more Randy Rhodes stuff than I've ever seen in one place do they include all the Randy Rhodes outtake stuff and all this like um you said it all which they did that one sound check I think you said it all is in there but um not all the outtake stuff is in there okay because they apparently you said it all was not the 01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:31.380 to really go down the rabbit hole. But they did that sound check and they just recorded it and they threw it on the Mr. Crowley live EP. Yes. That's the only time it's ever been played. And it's, and they threw it onto an EP and it's, then it disappeared. I will say this. You can also get a, probably that at a bargain price. Cause it was one of those things that just didn't really need to be made except for, unless you're like me and those are two records you love. So it's worth buying. Oh, that's the reason why I won. You should get it. Yeah. But then it also comes with the, a cross that's the same as all the cross that they, that's literally, 01:02:31.480 --> 01:03:01.440 They patterned after the cross they all wore. And that's cool. It was kind of cool to have that. Yeah, it's a cool set. Yeah. All right. It's awesome. Sorry. All right. Well, do we have any more questions for Dan before we move on to the episode? I think we can melt them into the rest of the episode. Easy. All right. Meaning we're going to get Dan's opinion on some of these matters. Well, before we do, I'm just going to make a quick check onto Facebook because last time we did the Metal Thunder 01:03:01.460 --> 01:03:02.320 as we have mentioned. 01:03:03.020 --> 01:03:03.380 Oh, 01:03:03.450 --> 01:03:04.400 I wrote it down too, 01:03:04.500 --> 01:03:04.920 just in case. 01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:06.820 And, 01:03:06.910 --> 01:03:07.020 uh, 01:03:07.580 --> 01:03:09.160 I wanted to give an update. 01:03:10.120 --> 01:03:11.220 So as we mentioned, 01:03:11.250 --> 01:03:13.240 it was injustice for all versus rest in peace. 01:03:14.220 --> 01:03:16.800 And when it first posted on Facebook, 01:03:16.950 --> 01:03:18.240 it was neck and neck. 01:03:19.180 --> 01:03:22.440 Like it was either tied or like off by one vote, 01:03:22.620 --> 01:03:23.800 like for several days, 01:03:23.890 --> 01:03:24.820 it was just like back and forth, 01:03:24.870 --> 01:03:25.260 back and forth, 01:03:25.290 --> 01:03:25.800 back and forth. 01:03:26.680 --> 01:03:27.440 But right now, 01:03:28.020 --> 01:03:30.860 rest in peace is up at 55% of the votes. 01:03:30.940 --> 01:03:31.180 So, 01:03:31.180 --> 01:03:31.380 so. 01:03:31.780 --> 01:03:32.000 Woohoo. 01:03:33.060 --> 01:03:34.700 We got like 62 votes, 01:03:34.720 --> 01:03:35.020 I think, 01:03:35.120 --> 01:03:35.340 didn't we? 01:03:37.580 --> 01:03:37.980 62. 01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:38.700 62. 01:03:38.780 --> 01:03:38.920 Oh, 01:03:39.060 --> 01:03:39.300 62. 01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:39.740 Excuse me. 01:03:40.100 --> 01:03:40.180 Yeah. 01:03:40.460 --> 01:03:41.200 That one struck a nerve, 01:03:41.240 --> 01:03:42.380 I guess people wanted to. 01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:45.400 We've done it three times now. 01:03:45.460 --> 01:03:46.660 So maybe people are catching on. 01:03:47.020 --> 01:03:47.420 Catching on. 01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:47.560 Yeah. 01:03:48.380 --> 01:03:48.520 The, 01:03:48.980 --> 01:03:49.380 well, 01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:50.020 you know, 01:03:50.460 --> 01:03:51.240 I feel vindicated, 01:03:51.940 --> 01:03:52.380 so to speak. 01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:52.940 I'm just joking. 01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:53.320 But I mean, 01:03:53.460 --> 01:03:55.320 I do say it's the better record. 01:03:55.580 --> 01:03:55.660 So. 01:03:56.380 --> 01:03:56.520 Yeah, 01:03:56.520 --> 01:03:57.420 it totally is. 01:03:57.480 --> 01:03:58.360 If you're listening, 01:03:59.140 --> 01:03:59.520 go vote. 01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:00.580 If you haven't. 01:04:00.660 --> 01:04:30.640 That's cool. It's like it's almost triple what we got before. So that's great. Well, let's see. What were the we did? This is our third one, right? Or is this our fourth one? Yeah. Yeah. First one was Dio versus Merciful Fate. Then it was Carcass. Well, yeah. Fourth total pull the third since we did the Thunderdome. Right. With the mild exception of this last one, I feel like this whole thing is a bad joke against me. And they're all like, let's just let's make let's do things that Jay will fucking hate us for. Oh, Jay. Maybe that's true for all of us. But I mean. So what I was going to mention earlier 01:04:30.660 --> 01:04:58.060 I was going to joke. We were talking about how evenly matched this one was. And I said, well, when it's my turn, I'm going to do something like, what was the good one? What did I say the good one was, John? It was going to be something really good versus Steel Panther. Shit, what was that? I plan to fuck with Jay and just do two chemist albums. 01:05:00.680 --> 01:05:28.460 It'll be hard for me to pick the one I like the least. Or Chemist vs. Utkiaru for Jay. Well, no, I had a second one. Yes, you did. I didn't do it because you weren't on that episode, Jay. Yeah, yeah. Oh, is that the kids show? The last show before the end of the world? Yeah, so save that for the next time. All right. We did t-shirt and beer check prematurely so we can move on to the news. 01:05:40.840 --> 01:06:00.400 First up is I was on Facebook the other day and Dan Svanu, I follow him on Facebook and he had a little post about this new metal social app called Band Bond, which doesn't flow off the tongue real well. Band Bond. 01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:30.640 And it's a metal app that you can download. As we know firsthand, when you post things on Facebook, even though people like you, they do not see what you post. Facebook is like, oh, well, you have to pay us to actually have everybody that likes you see your posts. So they made this app. So it ties into bands' Facebook pages, and apparently they can put original content on there too. But anything the band posts will show up in your feed if you follow 01:06:30.680 --> 01:06:59.940 a band on band bond. Correct me if I'm wrong here, George, but I read it from a distance. I was like one of those things where I read the headline in the first four sentences, but I thought somebody in a band was involved in developing this. Yeah. Yeah. I've heard it from dark tranquility. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. He's in the video sitting there smirking while he's looking at it. Did any of you guys download it? Yeah. Yeah. I had a bunch of bands just to mess around with it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, cool. I think it's awesome. 01:07:00.680 --> 01:07:30.640 I love it. I mean, it gives you the ability to follow the favorite bands, but you can also add the members of each band if you want to. Yeah, which I do like to do, by the way. I thought there was something about being able to buy the music, too, but I haven't seen anything about that. I didn't see that. I mean, the only bad part about it right now is there's just not that many bands. Hopefully it grows and we get a lot more access to it. That's funny you should say that, Marcasson, because I checked again tonight before we went on, and it seemed like there were a few new bands that I didn't see that I was looking for before. So it's... 01:07:30.860 --> 01:07:59.480 And Glenn from Prog Power, the promoter, he actually posted something about that, that everyone needs to get off their ass and get it on their phones immediately. And I was like, this is cool. If it's hitting, if promoters, you know, or people involved in the industry are posting it, that's good. I know Prog Power is small, but that's awesome. I feel like it just started and there's a reasonable amount of bands. So hopefully it doesn't die on the vine like metal dating.com. 01:08:00.680 --> 01:08:29.960 Yeah. Speaking of following and or just friending up with bands, members of bands, I heard from Matt Slug Moss the other day. I reached out to him and I was just like, hey, dude, I hope you're feeling better. And, you know, we kind of interact via Facebook in the vaguest way, but we do, you know, like, and anyway, long story short, we had a rather lengthy back and forth, but it ended with the Slug's album has really been slowed down because Matt's got laryngitis and a bunch of other shit left over from coronavirus. 01:08:30.040 --> 01:09:00.020 It really fucked him up, man. We really should get him on a war journal. Well, we can't now because he can't talk, but he's I actually invited him and he was like, sure, I'd love to, dude. But he said, just give me a minute to get my voice back. Yeah, of course. Well, yeah. And then he seemed very sincere. Like I sent him a message once every month or two. Yeah. He's a great guy. Super nice guy. He's your Joel. You know, he really kind of is, man. I still I say that every two episodes, but I fucking love that last record so much. And that was actually I wrote to him. I was like, dude, I can't 01:09:00.060 --> 01:09:30.020 I tell you how many times I've listened to this and shelter in place and how we record is one of the things that's kept me saying I'm revisiting it you get it you know what I love I love and what I loved about that last comment is because you know this is all visual we're doing this on zoom and you can see everyone's reactions and even Dan laughed at that joke because he listens to the podcast and he knows what the fuck we're talking about hey guys what do you think Matt Slug Moss is doing right now I know I'm such a douche I it always blows my mind when people 01:09:31.299 --> 01:10:00.000 tell us about things that we talk about like as far as i'm concerned we're just getting on here and talking and nobody actually listens to it and sometimes people will like be like hey i remember when like an episode 87 you said and i'm like no i don't remember that talking into the void it reminds me of uh one episode of uh the office where creed wanted to do a twitter page or something like that so one of the other characters in the office just set up a word file because he doesn't understand computers because they're like the world 01:10:02.020 --> 01:10:29.740 So he would just type it onto a Word document and hit save and he was pretty sure he was sending it out to the world. It might be more or less what we're doing here. That's awesome. Sorry. All right. So first. Oh, sorry. That was the first news item. Second news item. Hijab wearing Indonesian metal band called Voice of. Any guesses on this one? It's a Baki. 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:59.980 Baki Prat. Thank you. I looked it up. Yeah, I meant to try and check the pronunciation on that and forgot. So yeah, there are like three women in Indonesia that apparently they're a music teacher. They came across some metal on their music teacher's like laptop or phone or something and they were like, what's this? And they just like lost their minds and like fell hugely in love with heavy metal. And our, you know, Indonesia is a mother 01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:00.480 Muslim country. 01:11:02.320 --> 01:11:04.260 And so they're being persecuted. 01:11:04.440 --> 01:11:04.920 And they, 01:11:05.450 --> 01:11:05.800 one of the, 01:11:05.920 --> 01:11:06.400 I read they, 01:11:06.660 --> 01:11:15.040 they were like having stones thrown at them with wrapped in paper that had like messages about how they should be killed and stuff because of. 01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:19.680 Indonesia is the world's largest Muslim country. 01:11:20.220 --> 01:11:20.360 Yeah. 01:11:21.420 --> 01:11:22.120 And what's their, 01:11:22.160 --> 01:11:23.300 what's their major export? 01:11:23.540 --> 01:11:23.640 Well, 01:11:24.440 --> 01:11:25.120 I just fucked with that. 01:11:26.300 --> 01:11:26.540 Mr. 01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:28.440 And I liked at the end of the article, 01:11:28.550 --> 01:11:29.060 it was like, 01:11:29.090 --> 01:11:29.800 and by the way, 01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:59.800 the president of Indonesia is also a metal fan. So that's kind of fucking ironic. Oh, no, I think that was a thing. Oh, no, no, that was somebody else. That was Thailand or something. Somebody, there was a dude that was a world leader who was a big fan. There was a feature on, in that movie, Global Metal, right? Yeah. Indonesia was in there, so. Yeah. Was it the leader? I think so, yeah. Prime Minister or whatever the fuck. Hey, Dan, was it Indonesia where they had the one band that he was kind of questioning their motives? Where was that? It was in Southeast 01:12:03.980 --> 01:12:08.200 I think it might have been Indonesia movie yeah it was it was pretty 01:12:08.320 --> 01:12:15.260 hardcore with their plan is like yeah okay I mean the thing of it is they're standing up right and still 01:12:15.400 --> 01:12:19.900 playing metal even though they're in this country that you know it's gonna persecute them exactly 01:12:20.220 --> 01:12:24.659 they're not they're not backing down they're like this we like this we're gonna do it fuck you yeah 01:12:25.240 --> 01:12:54.620 As a matter of fact, we don't care what you say. Fuck you. Dan, you mentioned global metal. I think they do a thing in Iran, don't they also? About the guys that do the underground trading and everything. They play these secret shows and there's times that they have to have people looking out for them. Heavy metal Baghdad too, right? Yeah, they have to break up the shows to get out. I remember the heavy metal Baghdad because I was really into that because I was in Iraq and Baghdad at the same time. 01:12:54.740 --> 01:12:55.900 that was being filmed. 01:12:57.700 --> 01:13:00.680 And so I got the first album that they put out. 01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:01.540 I was like, oh, this is okay. 01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:02.340 You know, it's pretty good. 01:13:02.400 --> 01:13:04.740 And then the second album was like, oh, they totally got the United States 01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:05.860 and just fucked this up. 01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:06.960 Yeah. 01:13:07.140 --> 01:13:07.480 Oh, seriously. 01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:08.720 Yeah. 01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:13.680 Like it turned into like new metal, metal core kind of like the first. 01:13:14.300 --> 01:13:15.180 The EP was good. 01:13:15.940 --> 01:13:16.140 Yeah. 01:13:16.420 --> 01:13:24.640 And then I've been wanting to watch Death Metal Angola because I've been to Angola as 01:13:24.660 --> 01:13:54.320 And I've been to, I think it takes place in Wombo. And I've been to Wombo. Angola? Angola. I don't have to say this often, but where the fuck is Angola? I know. Angola is, it's on the globe somewhere. Southwest Africa, isn't it? Yeah, it's Southwest Africa. So the, obviously the southernmost country in Africa is South Africa. If you don't count Swaziland, Lesotho. 01:13:54.660 --> 01:14:24.060 And then if you go up the west coast of Africa, you get Namibia, which I've been to. I've been to South Africa, Namibia. And then right above Namibia is Angola. Where's Hyboria? Is it in the Horn? No, no, the Horn is Somalia, which is I've been there too. It's on the west side of the continent. Okay. Yeah. It's the thick, if you had to read, it's like northern Arizona. No, no. It would be, 01:14:24.660 --> 01:14:27.320 be the LA of Africa. 01:14:27.930 --> 01:14:33.060 So that makes me think angle might actually be an African word for angle. 01:14:33.210 --> 01:14:35.740 Cause isn't that kind of where the country does the corner there? 01:14:35.940 --> 01:14:36.060 No. 01:14:36.630 --> 01:14:36.740 No. 01:14:38.620 --> 01:14:40.700 Suggestion might be to just Google it. 01:14:43.340 --> 01:14:43.480 No, 01:14:43.480 --> 01:14:43.500 no, 01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:43.720 no. 01:14:43.820 --> 01:14:45.060 I want to keep trying to picture it. 01:14:45.120 --> 01:14:45.280 John. 01:14:46.700 --> 01:14:49.460 So you're talking about central West, 01:14:49.700 --> 01:14:51.240 you're talking about central West Africa, 01:14:51.490 --> 01:14:52.120 which is like, 01:14:53.330 --> 01:14:53.440 uh, 01:14:56.300 --> 01:14:57.020 Sierra Leone, 01:14:58.320 --> 01:14:58.680 Benin, 01:14:59.560 --> 01:14:59.860 Nigeria, 01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:02.160 Nigeria, 01:15:02.700 --> 01:15:02.940 Liberia. 01:15:03.060 --> 01:15:04.240 I've been to half all these fucking places. 01:15:04.280 --> 01:15:04.780 I was going to say, 01:15:04.860 --> 01:15:05.780 where have you not been? 01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:06.000 Well, 01:15:06.700 --> 01:15:08.060 I've never been to Minnesota. 01:15:09.320 --> 01:15:10.140 That will change. 01:15:10.420 --> 01:15:11.320 I've never been to Winnipeg. 01:15:11.960 --> 01:15:12.640 That will change. 01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:13.040 See, 01:15:13.070 --> 01:15:13.500 look at that. 01:15:13.590 --> 01:15:14.700 Even our guest has been to Minnesota. 01:15:15.040 --> 01:15:15.200 See, 01:15:15.300 --> 01:15:15.900 I'm telling you, 01:15:15.900 --> 01:15:16.540 we need to do a, 01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:18.700 I've been wanting to for at least two years now, 01:15:18.820 --> 01:15:22.480 do a road trip where we go and we hit three Floyds. 01:15:23.080 --> 01:15:23.320 Matt, 01:15:23.400 --> 01:15:53.080 I like how as soon as you said that somebody's wife in the background is laughing hysterically. Yeah, it's my wife. Tracy's like, do you know how fucking far away we live right now? Yeah, I think it's more like, oh, yeah, you're going on a road trip, buddy. Yeah, well, but you know, three Floyd's Matt Utkiaru and Keith. We got to like do the Midwest tour and then yeah, maybe Dan can come down to there you go. And then John can come out and see me in California. 01:15:53.380 --> 01:16:23.360 The rest of you guys can just stay on the East Coast like you always do. Barbara and I were just talking about going to L.A. again. So you could come down. It's funny. My six-year-old son just today when we were, I don't know, we were going down the fair winds. Out of the blue, he's like, Daddy, I really want to go to California. Did he learn that Disneyland is out here or something? No, no, he's out of the blue. Completely out of the blue. I think I was talking to John about this before the War Journal the other day. There's a, you know, the cake shows, like on the 01:16:23.400 --> 01:16:52.860 The Home, the cooking shows and stuff, there's Duff that does, and some of the guy named Buddy. Duff Goldman of Charm City Cakes made my groom's cake for my wedding with the Fist of Rock cake, which was on the opening of every show of that TV show. And they made, these two guys have a show where they- You had a cake that fisted? Wait. It was a fist of rock cake. It was a black cake with band names. You got fisted by a black one? 01:16:52.940 --> 01:17:19.880 And it had a fist coming up out of it. And it had flames around it. Where you got fisted by something black and was on fire? It's cool, man. I've seen it. Have you not seen it? This explains everything. And the double-barrely stoat is kicking in. There it goes. Not even close. Not even close. But it was a surprise. It was a surprise for me at our wedding. We had a wedding cake, but then this was a surprise cake. 01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:52.780 at Galaxy's Edge in California, and they did Star Wars cakes. And the one guy did a cake of the Millennium Falcon. And these are like six-foot gigantic cakes. And Duff did the Yoda lifting the X-Wing out of the swamp. But anyway, I'm like, so Barb and I were like, we need to go to Florida and hit this place because this is awesome. And I immediately said, and then after that, the podcast guys, 01:17:52.860 --> 01:18:22.800 We all need to go to this thing. Hey, by the way, I have anything to tell you, Star Wars fellas, of which I am one. I just don't talk about it as much as you guys. But there's a pretty good docuseries on Netflix called The Toys That Made Us. Have you guys seen this? I started watching. Yeah. They did an episode on Star Wars toys, and it was super fun to watch about how the Star Wars toys came about and evolved and the contracts and everything. It was actually way interesting. And the rarest ones and stuff. It's worth watching. 01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:51.640 My favorite is the Transformers one because those are the toys that I really played when I was a kid. That and He-Man. I just discovered this last night so the only one I've seen is Star Wars but I'm going to watch more. You said it was Netflix? Netflix. It's called The Toys That Made Us and I think it's a Netflix series. Okay. It is. It is a Netflix series and they're about 45 minutes to 50 minutes. Yeah. They have like a side series called The Movies That Made Us as well. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember watching. 01:18:53.940 --> 01:19:22.220 Ghostbusters is one of them, right? That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that one. Yeah. And that was when I watched. Which one did I watch? Is Alien one of them? Maybe not. I'll have to look at it. I've only watched one of those and I liked it. Oh, no, no, it wasn't. I saw a documentary the other day about Guardians of the Galaxy. Galaxy Quest. Galaxy Quest. Okay. They were revisiting this and it's called, I'll have to look up and tell you what it's called. It was a great documentary. It was like an hour and a half long. 01:19:22.460 --> 01:19:52.420 I feel like I saw something about that but I didn't know it was related I'll send it to you at the link to it yeah it's worth watching all right it's a documentary on the Mandalorian now too oh yeah is that right sweet yeah I saw it it was pretty interesting how all the different different the directors and their backgrounds and how you can see how each episode was different presumably only available on the Disney plus thing or whatever that's right yeah so our next 01:19:52.460 --> 01:20:22.420 The next item is nearly as interesting, but I just wanted to put it out there as a cautionary tale. Jack Osborne says that there is a biopic that is going to happen. He insists it's going to happen about Ozzie's early life. And this is where it goes off the rails. His courtship with Sharon. Whatever. I didn't realize there was a new Exorcist movie in the works. I mean, nobody wants to see that. I asked you this as a bit of a trivia question. You know, she used to date one of the other people. 01:20:22.460 --> 01:20:52.040 the Black Sabbath memories, right? Years ago. Okay, I probably laid that on you. Plus, you guys, if you read the book. Wasn't it Tony? I read that book, and she's the Antichrist. Yeah. You know who else I've kind of realized is the Antichrist, though? And her dad, too. And this fits in with that lineage. I think I've slowly come to learn a few things that make me think Wendy Dio is just another Sharon Osbourne. Yeah. I see things over and over and over, which, by the way, like she, for instance, is the reason like Vivian Campbell left. 01:20:52.900 --> 01:21:22.000 I heard Vivian Campbell tell the story recently where he was like, he was like, we kept, uh, Ronnie kept saying, just stick with me. And if we start to make money, we'll redo our contracts after the third album, which would be Sacred Heart. And, um, and, and he went to him and he was like, can we do this? And, and he was, and, and he didn't answer him or whatever. And he came back and he's like, yeah, we kind of can't or something like that. And it was, and he knew at the time Vivian knew it was because Wendy wouldn't let him do it. And then I've read some other stuff about her too, where she's just kind of a shit. 01:21:22.460 --> 01:21:52.420 So my only thing I'll say about Vivian Campbell is he has flip-flopped so much over the years. I don't doubt that story, but I don't know what his motivation is for what he says because he used to just shit all over Dio and Dio passes and then he's the biggest Dio guy in the world. And I'm just like, you're a hypocrite as far as I know. Isn't he playing in that last in line? Yeah. That whole thing. We've got that and the 01:21:54.060 --> 01:22:22.040 The only reason though, and I agree with you, John, you're absolutely right, and that totally fits with what I remember too, which was Vivian Change's story when Ronnie died, but he cannot possibly be doing the last in line thing for money, because he's got to be making shit tons in Def Leppard, so I assume he's at least got a love for the period, but anyway, my summation or my thesis statement there is Wendy Dio is a Sharon Osbourne. I've heard that, yeah, from some people. 01:22:22.440 --> 01:22:51.880 I'm not as interested in the Ozzy Sharon movie. No. Fuck no. Actually, I would be interested. It's called the Osbournes. It was on MTV. I'll be honest. There's an A&E biography that's coming this summer. Oh, yeah? Anyway, you were saying, John. Actually, I would be honest to see about how she dragged his ass out of the gutter and got it cleaned up. That, to me, is more interesting. I mean, because I think that's around that period. But that would probably be sugar-coated. I mean, it might be. 01:22:51.900 --> 01:23:21.580 You've heard the story so many times. I mean, and you've even seen pictures of that hotel room where he was living, and it did look like a fucking death zone, man. And, you know, there's pizza boxes everywhere and shit. The guy's overweight, ordering drugs in, blah, blah, blah. And that was really, really, she came in and pulled him out of the mob death there, and that's what happened. As much as I hate her, I have to give her that much. No, you're right. And she was smart enough, too. I'll give her that. Well, she did it against her father's wishes, too, I think, didn't she? No, no, no, he handed him over. She said, give me Ozzy, and he said, okay, you can have him. Yeah, because he was going. Because he thought he was going to die or whatever, yeah. 01:23:22.820 --> 01:23:51.880 Well, close to... I mean, watching that fucking movie is my point. Yeah. So, in related news, Tony Iommi says he is not opposed to a one-off Black Sabbath show. All right. Yeah. Well, I think they said that even before they retired, that they wouldn't be opposed to doing something. That's absolutely true. It's just like no more tours. I mean, how that worked out. Yeah. They need to do something with Bill. I mean, that's... 01:23:51.920 --> 01:24:21.820 That's the bottom line in my opinion. Bill's got to be able to play too, though. There's truth to both stories there. Ozzy said that he won a gag with Bill. But after they got, they were the ones who were validated because he set up a little tour a year ago or something they had to cancel because of a heart attack. I mean, they were right. He was not fit. But also, let's all remember too, they've all got to be fit. 01:24:21.900 --> 01:24:51.520 Well, not through this two years from Funkin' Now. Yeah. When they get in the arena again. So it's easy to say they're going to play something that they're never going to play. So this next item has me feeling a little old. Gwar is going to release a 30th anniversary box set for Scum Dogs of the Universe, which I bought after I was even out of high school. So. You are old, dude. I'm old. Not that old. No. I remember buying. 01:24:51.900 --> 01:25:21.220 Hello when it first came out before Scum Dogs. Yeah, yeah. And that had to have been 1988, 89, something. Yeah, probably 88, 87, 88 maybe. Yeah. And then it was weird because I thought I thought Hello was like this greatest like underground punk weird. Like it was it was like my first like debaucherous metal album that I could remember listening to when Scum Dogs came out. It was still debaucherous. I'm like, wait, where'd all this production come from? Yeah. 01:25:21.900 --> 01:25:51.840 Yeah, well, they made a couple bucks, you know. I loved that album when it came out. Oh, I still love it. Yeah, I think so. Oh, yeah, I agree, Marcus. But I think they did do and have done well enough, right? When you see the guy, I think Wars made a living, you know. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely. They're tourists. Make a lot of money. Yeah. I mean, it's not to saying that Dave's not there. Not even close. Yeah. No, but because I'm even friends with Volvatron who made an appearance. Yeah, briefly. Yeah. Did you see, did you, 01:25:51.900 --> 01:26:21.880 Did you guys ever see Dave Rocky when he was doing the stuff with CNN or somebody? It was so funny, dude. And he was, he was, it was like some, like, uh, the, the red zone thing or whatever. And they check in with him and he was in full guard, full guard. And they would like ask his opinion. And it was his opinion was always like, well, the world is going to be destroyed in three weeks by us. So it doesn't matter. You know what I mean? It was great. It was a regular contributor for a while. I got to, I got to interview, uh, one of the guys, uh, we interviewed beefcake at 01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:51.380 Yeah, beefcake. That's right. You were there. They endorsed the Trump thing about ingesting fucking disinfectants or whatever. I thought that was the most brilliant thing ever. Those guys have been on CNN in the last few weeks about the quarantine. Oh, wow. Yeah, but you know what's funny about that? Everyone jumped all over that on both sides for whatever they believed in. Guar's been doing that with every president. Yeah, that's right. It literally had nothing to do. 01:26:51.900 --> 01:26:57.780 They just go after everybody. It is interesting. It is interesting. I remember when the whole 01:26:58.460 --> 01:27:20.760 Cathy Lee Gifford holding the head of the bloody head of Trump. That's right. And I think Gwar respond like, well, we've been doing that for every fucking president. I think when I saw them, I think they did something with Bush on stage when I saw them. Every single president. It doesn't matter. Obama. Every single one. They did Hillary. 01:27:21.440 --> 01:27:51.420 Some Hillary stuff too, though, and everything. And it's by the way, Will, I hate to know this much about pop culture, but that was definitely not Kathy Lee Gifford who did that. Oh, sorry. It was Kathy Griffin. Sorry, not Kathy. Kathy Lee Gifford is that redheaded. Will, did you see Regis? Was Regis there? Kathy, the redheaded. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, whatever. Guar takes a page out of typo negative. We hate everyone. Yeah. Yeah, that's the South Park motto. Everyone's gangsters. 01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:51.980 - Fair game. 01:27:52.700 --> 01:27:53.680 - America must be destroyed. 01:27:54.040 --> 01:27:54.320 - Indeed. 01:27:55.370 --> 01:27:56.700 - That box set's pretty expensive. 01:27:57.610 --> 01:27:58.300 - Yeah, I get it. 01:27:58.300 --> 01:27:59.500 - I mean, I didn't plan on getting it, but it's expensive. 01:27:59.850 --> 01:28:01.120 - So what is in the box set? 01:28:01.340 --> 01:28:06.080 - So it's $150 for the unsigned edition and $250 for a signed one. 01:28:06.360 --> 01:28:06.660 - Jesus. 01:28:06.940 --> 01:28:08.360 - Is it just the record? 01:28:08.510 --> 01:28:09.580 Like what comes with it? 01:28:09.740 --> 01:28:13.460 - It has a, it's a remixed, remastered album on 180 gram. 01:28:14.130 --> 01:28:16.660 I think there's a cassette of demos and rarities. 01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:17.220 There's like. 01:28:21.940 --> 01:28:47.880 Slip mat in there. I think you get a death certificate in or something. I don't know. There's a poster. Mark a sign you cut out. Did you say dildos? Yeah. He's fucking with you. He's coming through clear here. Am I coming through clear? Am I actually coming through? No, no, no. You did cut out, but it's mostly coming through. It is, Will, but you could squirt blood and it shoots like 50 feet out like at a shot. 01:28:47.960 --> 01:29:17.440 No. I was making a joke, but you actually did say dildos? No. I'm so confused. They have that edition. The dildo edition, yes. It's the Will edition. But it's a little more for double-headed. It's actually called the Willie edition. I'm still confused. I'm just going to let it go. We should just move to the next item. All right. I will do that. Hank Sherman has six or seven songs written for a new Merciful Fate album. 01:29:17.940 --> 01:29:47.420 Shut the front door. Yeah, well, it's like Hank, Hank, step back. We're still waiting for the King Diamond album. You know? Merciful Faith's getting done first. Yeah, actually, it probably will. But I, so I wanted to say a couple things about this since I'm the resident Merciful Faith nut. But it's at this point that I'm a little disappointed that Michael Denner is not involved. And it's not clear that he's not, but I assume he's not. Because they're a pretty important duo, guitar duo. So there's that. 01:29:47.500 --> 01:30:17.440 And then second, I was going to mention, but I mean, that kind of worked out like when they came back, because like Kim Rez wasn't on the reunion stuff, the drummer, and they did all right. But since we're talking about reissues, they are reissuing all the early Merciful Faith stuff, which is important because they're going back to the original master. And if you're a Melissa freak like I am, there's an added vocal on that record that fucking destroys me every time I hear it. I want back my old version that I just don't have a version of. So thank God. 01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:44.580 So those are all up for pre-order. Oh, by the way, Super 7 Captain Strips is up for pre-order if anybody gives a shit. Really? Yeah. Interesting. I wanted to ask you, Jay, as part of my Bandcamp addiction, I was on there trolling for classic albums the other day, and I realized that while I have Melissa and Don't Break the Oath on Bandcamp, 01:30:52.480 --> 01:31:16.780 She's coming through better than you are, dude. I think she plays games with her co-workers on Friday. So I think she's online too, which is probably contributing to the MyFast action. All right, fair enough. Exactly, exactly. We'll just fill that in. But anyway, I wanted to ask Jay. 01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:47.260 So I went on there and I was like, oh, look, like pretty much every Merciful Fade album is on Bandcamp. And so I was like, I should just totally fucking go and grab all of these. And I was listening to some of the later ones and I was like, eh. Some were pretty weak. Yeah. I was like, eh, you know, time, I like that one. Are you talking about the actual music and songs? Nah, the songs were just like not good. I think it was because he was, they were, he was doing, he would be like, 01:31:47.500 --> 01:32:16.620 King Diamond, he was going back and forth. The guy was putting so much stuff out. But you're not wrong, and you know how much I love them. And I also admitted earlier in the podcast that there was a point where I had to be able to admit I didn't like something somebody did. And those last two or three or four even are not really very good at all. So what's the last good one? Honestly, Time. Yeah, that's my favorite. Yeah, so really it's the first one in the shadows or whatever it's called, and Time are the only two you really need. Yeah. 01:32:16.620 --> 01:32:46.400 So it's not gonna be shocking that I'm kind of a vocal snob and I like certain vocals. You're just a snob. Well, that's true, but I'm just not I can't get into King Diamond merciful fate vocals, but what is actually King Diamond's real name? Kim. Where where are they from? That's where I thought I thought they're I thought they're Texas. Yeah, I was gonna say he grew up a neighbor. 01:32:46.640 --> 01:33:16.600 Lars Ulrich. Yeah. You know, funny, funny story. And I think I told this on the pod a while back, but when they were recording, you'll remember that they recorded both Master of Puppets and the one before that. Ride the Lightning. Yeah. Fleming Rasmussen. Dan's Game Changer. Those were both recorded in Denmark. And when they were recording. What the fuck was that? Was that Tracy again? Yeah. Jay, I think she thought you were going to mention 01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:45.740 a black album. Honestly, it's supposed to get a coven of witches over there, dude. But okay. But that Metallica, they were living in Europe for a period of time and somebody stole a van's worth of their equipment. So they actually recorded Ride the Lightning with amps that belong to Merciful Fate. So probably the same amps that are on Melissa are on Ride the Lightning. That's pretty cool. Now I'm going to go back and listen to both of them. They don't sound at all alike. No, I know. 01:33:47.120 --> 01:34:16.600 I'm not getting it but George if you don't have a corpse without soul you should get that that's that first one I have it digitally I figured you would yeah yeah no I mean I am I am no J when it comes to King Diamond Merciful Fate but I am a big fan indeed so all right and so our last news item Iron Maiden is going to release remastered versions of Live After Death and Rock in Rio now I know that's not After Death was already remastered 01:34:16.660 --> 01:34:46.600 I don't know what I thought it was it's been remastered a couple times re re re re garage days re revisited this is to release the uh the action figure right uh I think yeah but live after death is I mean I know beast it's not no beast over Hammersmith but it is a great album as far as I'm concerned and rock and Rio is not bad either oh I like rock and Rio a lot so so uh it has a lot of brave new world on it yeah 01:34:46.620 --> 01:35:16.560 The only thing I would want from Live After Death, I don't know how if you guys are complete, it's like I am about that album, but it would be nice if they would add Sanctuary to it. I don't have to have the guitar solo, but Sanctuary would be nice because then it'd be a full show. Yeah. Well, and also, John, one of the things that came in the box set that had Beast Over Hammersmith in it was outtakes from that and Lost for Words was actually part of that. Yeah, so that's actually, Jay, that's on another release of Live After Death. 01:35:16.640 --> 01:35:46.020 There's a second bonus disc that has that, Murders in the Room Morgue, and Sanctuary. So two songs are from Europe, and one song is from the LA show, or Long Beach. And Sanctuary is the one from Long Beach. Fuck yeah. But we all know the greatest part of Live After Death is... What not to do. When the bird shits on you. No, no. That's the next greatest part. The greatest part is fucking Churchill. Oh yeah. We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. 01:35:46.620 --> 01:36:15.620 It's a fucking... You know. Yeah, that's pretty cool. No, I'm sorry, but I fucking dig that shit. And then it goes right into Ace's High. I love it. Actually, if you're going to do that, then for me, it's just the beginning of Two Minutes to Bendight right after Ace's High. Because that's the best that's ever sounded, that song. The greatest part about that is when Churchill records all that shit, that dude is drunk as fuck. Yeah. Oh, hey, did you watch the... That's why it sounds so good. Great Churchill movie. 01:36:16.680 --> 01:36:44.140 Last Year. The one with Lithgow? No. It was either. I know what you're talking about, Jay. It came out the same time as the one. The other one. The one just is called Churchill. Hold on. I'll find out. There are two back-to-back films that came out at the same time. Yeah. Lithgow plays. No, it's different. Yeah, no. Oh, 1917? No, no. This is different. Sorry. 01:36:46.620 --> 01:36:47.680 It's a word like that. 01:36:47.960 --> 01:36:48.620 Jay, it's... 01:36:49.020 --> 01:36:49.560 Darkest Hour. 01:36:50.160 --> 01:36:51.160 Darkest Hour, yeah, yeah. 01:36:51.300 --> 01:36:52.920 It was partnered with Dunkirk. 01:36:54.050 --> 01:36:54.120 Yeah. 01:36:54.240 --> 01:36:54.940 Goddamn, that was... 01:36:54.940 --> 01:36:55.520 Did you guys see it? 01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:56.300 Yeah, it was good. 01:36:57.060 --> 01:36:59.100 Yeah, Dunkirk, and the actor is... 01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:00.040 What's his name? 01:37:00.140 --> 01:37:00.560 Gary Oldman. 01:37:01.080 --> 01:37:01.160 Yeah. 01:37:02.540 --> 01:37:04.980 Yeah, and also Dunkirk was fucking great, too, dude. 01:37:05.080 --> 01:37:07.160 I didn't see that right away, but when I saw it, I was like, fuck. 01:37:07.380 --> 01:37:08.600 Yeah, I think Dunkirk came out first. 01:37:08.810 --> 01:37:10.100 Have you seen 1917 yet? 01:37:10.240 --> 01:37:11.080 Still haven't seen that. 01:37:11.320 --> 01:37:11.480 Not yet. 01:37:11.700 --> 01:37:12.180 Oh, that's good. 01:37:12.880 --> 01:37:13.220 You know what? 01:37:13.280 --> 01:37:14.980 It's just as good as everybody says it is, George. 01:37:15.080 --> 01:37:15.260 It is. 01:37:15.660 --> 01:37:15.980 Oh, fuck. 01:37:16.300 --> 01:37:46.160 Yeah. Especially when you focus on the fact that it's one continuous long shot. Not the whole movie. It's like that. But there are parts of a couple of cuts. Well, I mean, they obviously, they filmed it over months. But the way it is presented is one continuous long shot. It is, it is, it's amazing filmmaking. My wife does not like gore and violence. Yeah. And she loved it. Well, you can see where the cuts are. But that being said, there are sections of that movie, like, 01:37:46.300 --> 01:37:48.520 15 minutes long where there's clearly not a cut. 01:37:48.980 --> 01:37:49.140 Yeah. 01:37:49.460 --> 01:37:51.060 And I thought it was just one part. 01:37:51.540 --> 01:37:52.860 It's the whole movie's like that, huh? 01:37:53.280 --> 01:37:53.480 Yeah. 01:37:53.680 --> 01:37:54.360 The whole movie. 01:37:54.600 --> 01:37:54.700 Wow. 01:37:54.960 --> 01:37:58.560 He goes underwater for a minute and then it's another 15 minutes where just the amount 01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:01.360 of choreography that goes into that fucking thing is just outstanding. 01:38:01.520 --> 01:38:02.600 Oh, now I gotta see it. 01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:05.440 So it's all because of Iron Maiden. 01:38:05.960 --> 01:38:07.200 Just a quick sidebar. 01:38:07.300 --> 01:38:10.520 That reminds me, just real quick, you guys ever see the movie Heat? 01:38:11.120 --> 01:38:11.240 Yeah. 01:38:11.360 --> 01:38:11.480 Yeah. 01:38:12.480 --> 01:38:14.480 Do you remember the downtown scene, the gunfight? 01:38:14.660 --> 01:38:14.740 Yeah. 01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:45.900 That's like my favorite five minutes of any movie. There's not one word said and there's like about a thousand rounds shot off. Yeah. And so you know why I think that's so effective, John, is because they just went with the sound of the guns bouncing off all those buildings and it sounds like it must have would sound. It was just so brutal. And one second. Do you guys want to know what it sounds like? Is it? Yeah, I'll tell you. It sounds like that. No, you never know where when you're in an urban environment, you have sounds bounce. 01:38:45.980 --> 01:38:48.580 You have no idea where the gunshots are coming from a lot of times. 01:38:48.760 --> 01:38:49.720 That's one of the great scenes. 01:38:49.740 --> 01:38:50.400 It's maddening. 01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:52.700 Yeah, so it makes me think if it's... 01:38:52.700 --> 01:38:54.720 Tracy, that's not fucking funny. I've been there. 01:38:56.320 --> 01:38:58.640 He laughs every time Will says something. It's pretty funny. 01:39:01.280 --> 01:39:02.860 I'm glad she's having so much fun. 01:39:03.480 --> 01:39:06.180 I have one addendum to all of this because it came out because of Maiden. 01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:07.820 That's how we got off on this tangent. 01:39:07.990 --> 01:39:13.260 But it was because John was saying he thought those remasters were related to the action figures, which they most likely are. 01:39:13.420 --> 01:39:13.600 Yeah. 01:39:13.880 --> 01:39:14.040 Yeah. 01:39:14.420 --> 01:39:43.460 And there's this thing that keeps showing up in my feed or something. Some company is doing this like $1,200 Eddie statue. I'll send it to you guys so you can see it. I would actually consider buying it if it wasn't like an Eddie I didn't give a shit about, which is like some Oriental blah, blah, blah. But it's like this high class kind of fucking. Man, it's Asian, not Oriental, dude. Fuck off. Oh, my bad. It's got savages and Indians. Hold on. I'll send it to you guys. 01:39:43.980 --> 01:39:46.880 But it's just not 01:39:47.860 --> 01:39:49.900 It's what I'm trying to say is it's not like one of the 01:39:50.060 --> 01:39:51.920 Eddie images that I don't even know where the fuck 01:39:51.940 --> 01:39:52.500 it comes from 01:39:52.880 --> 01:39:54.140 What you're saying is it's $1,200 01:39:54.540 --> 01:39:55.460 And I'll give you shit what it is 01:39:55.640 --> 01:39:55.980 Yeah, exactly 01:39:57.320 --> 01:39:59.620 It's amazing, but yeah, $1,200? Come on 01:39:59.940 --> 01:40:00.580 Yeah, sorry about that 01:40:00.660 --> 01:40:02.220 Yeah, well, I mean, it's like one of those 01:40:02.720 --> 01:40:04.000 You know, uber collectible things 01:40:04.220 --> 01:40:06.600 If it was made in Japan 01:40:07.020 --> 01:40:08.660 And it was the alternate album cover 01:40:08.880 --> 01:40:10.260 Where they're holding Paul D'Anno's head 01:40:10.720 --> 01:40:11.480 After it got cut off 01:40:11.820 --> 01:40:12.780 Then I'd be down on that 01:40:13.720 --> 01:40:13.960 Yeah 01:40:14.080 --> 01:40:41.680 I've got a Boba Fett figure that's in a samurai outfit. It's like that. It's like a samurai thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's a company that makes Stormtroopers, Darth Vader, like all that stuff in the form of samurai because George Lucas thought of the Jedi's as samurai. Yeah. All right. Fair enough. I mean, it's cool, but you know. Whatever. All right. Let's move on to the new releases. 01:40:51.600 --> 01:41:13.580 First up is Alchemist and their second album Sanctuary. They're a Danish prog sludge band. We got the promo. I didn't really pay too much attention to it until Will was like, hey, this is pretty good. And then I was like, oh, you're right. It is pretty fucking good. And so I bought that and the, 01:41:13.620 --> 01:41:42.640 the first album and they're fucking good. They are like high on my list for this. Yeah. I'm really liking it a lot. I got it. I still haven't checked it out yet. I got to listen to it. You'll John if like if anybody's going to like it you're going to like it. Yeah. I figured as much. I think you said something similar to that and that's I just haven't had a chance yet. There's a lot of prog elements in it that you will like. Cool. And if I like it that means you're going to like it. And he likes it even though there's some clean vocals. 01:41:43.620 --> 01:41:43.920 Yeah. 01:41:44.760 --> 01:41:44.880 Yeah. 01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:47.300 But there's a lot of chubby bass. 01:41:49.080 --> 01:41:49.520 Chubby bass. 01:41:49.720 --> 01:41:50.180 You know what? 01:41:50.240 --> 01:41:54.140 I love chubby whatever you were about to say. 01:41:54.380 --> 01:41:55.760 Oh, well, come on over, baby. 01:41:59.480 --> 01:41:59.860 All right. 01:42:00.080 --> 01:42:02.740 Next up, we just got the promo the other day. 01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:05.120 I haven't, I've only given it a cursory listen. 01:42:05.680 --> 01:42:06.600 It just came out today. 01:42:06.980 --> 01:42:11.360 And Oceans, their fifth album, Cosmic World Mother. 01:42:12.040 --> 01:42:41.920 They're a Finnish kinda black metal band. This is their first album in 18 years, which blows my mind, because, I mean, I'm familiar with these guys. Didn't realize it had been so long. Did anybody check this out? Just a couple songs. Yeah, I did. It wasn't really my cup of tea. Yeah. Yeah, that was good. The beginning of it, the first few songs are pretty straightforward. Yeah. And then after that, though. Then after that, though, it turns into My Little Pony. 01:42:42.040 --> 01:43:09.080 My Little Pony. Next up we have Black Pestilence. And their sixth album Hail the Flesh. They're from Calgary. And they're sort of a blackish punkish band. We got the promo. I thought it was cool. So I picked it up on Bandcamp. Give All the Money to the Band-Aid. Whatever they want to call that. Anybody else listen to this? Yes. Dug it. Yeah? Yep. Excellent. 01:43:12.480 --> 01:43:42.000 Hey Dan, do you like them or dislike them because they're from Calgary? They're from Alberta. Fuck Calgary, man. Yeah, I don't care where they're from. I listened to a couple of songs. It's okay. That's also especially just okay is not okay. You guys don't do that in Canada though, do you? You're not like those guys on the East Coast, West Coast, whatever you guys. I don't know. I mean, in general, I kind of, well, I mean, and when it comes to sports, we do, but I think that's probably every city though. Hey Dan, do you hate 01:43:42.400 --> 01:44:11.140 They do that in Quebec. Come on. Oh, of course. Come on. Yeah, we don't know that. But do you hate the D-Gens? The D-Gens? Yeah, the D-Gens, you know, the ones north of Ontario. It's Letterkenny. Do you know Letterkenny? I know the show, but honestly, I haven't watched a lot of it. It is your right and your privilege and your duty as a Canadian to watch Letterkenny. I know. I'm going to get my citizenship. See, I would watch. 01:44:11.240 --> 01:44:41.100 I would say Schitt's Creek. I think that's a great fucking show. There you go. I actually watched Schitt's Creek. So yeah. On Letterkenny, did they kidnap Alex Lifeson from Rush? No. End of story. That happened in Schitt's Creek, boys? Yeah, they kidnapped him and then he was accused of being, I think, a child molester. Did he have any on the show? Yeah. Oh, he did it with them. I mean, he was a part of the show. No, I mean, 01:44:41.260 --> 01:45:11.180 It's cool to know he was on the show. Oh, yeah. And then they were at a live rush show. Somewhere. I can't remember where they played. Maybe Halifax or something like that. It was awesome. Yeah. Bubbles was actually one of their roadies that night. That's awesome, dude. I didn't know that. I have to tell you, too. Are you a Jets fan? I am. Okay. Clearly, you do not follow Dan on Twitter. It's mostly him complaining. 01:45:11.260 --> 01:45:39.900 about the Jets. I don't look at Twitter much as well. I see Dan's Facebook post. I remember doing the whiteout. Was it last year? What's that? The whiteout during the playoffs. Yeah. I'm so happy to have Evander Kane. No, dude. When I remember when we used to play the Jets, I was always just like, man, that guy is so fucking fast and everything. I love him. We just signed him for seven more years. I think I'm probably one of the few people in Winnipeg that actually like Evander Kane. Yeah. 01:45:41.240 --> 01:46:11.020 He pretty much got run out of town here, but I actually do like him a lot. That guy plays hard every single game. So I'm probably gonna get lynched now if anybody from Winnipeg listens to this. Well, he can be dangerous though, too. I mean, he's sort of like Rafi Torres and, you know, Logan Couture and one player. You know what I mean? Yeah, but Torres is pretty good. But I love him. Oh, no, no, no. I wouldn't say Evander's dirty, but he's done some fucked up stuff. Yeah, for sure. But that's stated. I love having him, dude. 01:46:11.100 --> 01:46:37.600 Boy, the game has changed. If you get something, he's kind of dirty. Well, I mean, but no, but he's right. I mean, what the Rafi Torres comparison is unfair. I'm just thinking of what I was when I was in grade school, high school watching, you know, and just thinking, well, he's, he's, you know, this guy's protector. And then you see some guy's head just getting absolutely just pummeled into the glass and they're like, oh, that's a clean hit. 01:46:41.100 --> 01:47:10.480 Yeah, you took a dive. I don't think you guys know. Two things. I don't think breaking news is that Roy from Siegfried and Roy just died. Oh, wow. The other one was already gone, right? So that's the end of them. I don't know. One of them got mauled by a tiger. One just died. Which was which? And did he die by tiger or coronavirus? Or corona tiger. Yeah. Well, did you see one of the tigers in the Bronx Zoo had the coronavirus? 01:47:11.080 --> 01:47:40.880 Yeah. Did you see that today they said that cats had it already to begin with? Oh, is that maybe that's true? Yeah. Cause my brother was like, we are not doing this social distancing thing. Right. If our tigers are getting this. Yeah. I thought all, I thought that that was part of it for cats or something already. Okay. What do I know? I don't know what to trust anymore. Bats, not cats. Yeah. Well, no cats actually do have something. Well, my biggest concern is I saw today that it can be, that it is present in semen. Yeah. So we gotta be careful guys. Yeah. 01:47:41.080 --> 01:48:11.020 And then tomorrow, yeah, we got to be, yeah, we'll leave it at that next item. So, all right. So the, what are you worried about the tissues or the sink getting coronavirus or I'm talking about, I'm talking about mid-year, baby. Don't worry. We're going to be home. So it's good. Okay. You're in now. I'm definitely going to be home. Oh, he did die of coronavirus though. Did he? 01:48:11.100 --> 01:48:40.980 Yeah. Wow. Just checked it. Got it from a tiger. Hey, Dan, I do want to say that my claim to flame is his podcast. Sorry, I was looking at George. I did Dirty Dan's pretty hardcore with your first lady. My first lady? This country's first lady? Yeah. Did you really? Yeah. 01:48:41.080 --> 01:49:10.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my research partner at the University of Pittsburgh. I can't even imagine where the story's going from. Yeah, I'm just playing. So my research partner, this guy Greg, I won't say his last name, but he got married up in Quebec. And he's French-Canadian, and he got married up there. And so I went to his wedding. I just came back from Afghanistan, like two days before this, and I flipped to Quebec to get to his wedding. 01:49:11.460 --> 01:49:40.960 He is boyhood friends with Justin Trudeau. And the greatest part about this story is apparently there's pictures. I have no memory of it whatsoever. I'd like to see these pictures. I do have pictures of the wedding. I do not have pictures of me and the Canadian first lady. That's amazing. But apparently it did happen. That is wonderful, man. Shit. Nobody puts a rock star in the corner. She was like, I hear you're called Beefstick the Mighty. Why is that? 01:49:41.940 --> 01:49:42.720 There you go. 01:49:43.260 --> 01:49:43.400 Yeah. 01:49:43.600 --> 01:49:46.080 And then you take off your pants and she was like, no, seriously, why is that? 01:49:51.240 --> 01:49:52.000 It's Canadian. 01:49:52.400 --> 01:49:53.840 It's American units of measurement. 01:49:54.120 --> 01:49:54.540 That's right. 01:49:54.660 --> 01:49:54.780 Yeah. 01:49:56.020 --> 01:49:56.880 It doesn't translate. 01:49:57.180 --> 01:49:58.140 Double and add 30. 01:49:58.460 --> 01:49:59.260 Double and add 30. 01:49:59.360 --> 01:49:59.640 I know. 01:49:59.660 --> 01:50:00.100 I know. 01:50:00.300 --> 01:50:09.120 It's like nine inches doesn't sound a lot, but if you say 27 centimeters, I mean, come on. 01:50:09.400 --> 01:50:09.820 I love it. 01:50:11.120 --> 01:50:39.540 All right. All right. So, uh, meanwhile, back at the podcast next up, uh, this probably isn't done anybody's list, but mine because I forgot to add it, but cryptic shift visitations. Okay. So what's next visitations from enchiladas or enciladas? I guess it's, I listened to some of that today. Actually, I dig it. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. There are UK tech thrash, 01:50:39.980 --> 01:51:09.640 Banned, apparently. And yeah, I'm still investigating this one personally, but I know John digs it. Yeah. And apparently Dan. And apparently Dan. A couple of us. It was good. Yeah, it's, people are trying to compare it to Blood Incantation's last album, but it's... No, it's nothing like it. No, no, only because it's got one long song and then three songs on the other side, but it's nothing like it at all. It's, there's a lot of thrash, but there is, there's some deathy moments, 01:51:09.960 --> 01:51:20.880 But if you like Thrash, and you like it to be fast and aggressive, then it's got a whole sci-fi thing going on, too. 01:51:21.480 --> 01:51:23.000 Yeah, they start... Go ahead. 01:51:23.560 --> 01:51:25.860 No, I just think they do it really well, though. 01:51:26.300 --> 01:51:31.820 Yeah, it's actually... I hate to use this word a lot of times, but it's... Smoking? 01:51:34.280 --> 01:51:39.180 Well, I dropped that word after that first episode I was on. Smoking! 01:51:41.600 --> 01:52:07.480 I think I was in Cheech and Chong. No, Dan, would you agree? It's fairly classy the way they did the album. I thought it's very well done. I could be completely wrong here because I haven't heard it, but you guys feel like you're describing Vector. Surprisingly, oh, no. Well, no. Vector's not classy from what we hear. Well, yeah, I mean, there's that, but I mean, also, I did not like that record as much as everybody else said, and I know that's not what you're talking about. 01:52:07.500 --> 01:52:37.440 No, but it, I, yeah, I would have some of that approach that Vector had, which was very technical and skilled, but not, it's not sloppy or any, or crazy. It's, it's really well done. So. Okay, cool. I'll check it. I'll check it. This next item is also in the John arena. And that's the new green carnation album leaves of yesteryear. They are Norwegian prog metal bands. This is their sixth album, but it's their first album in 14 years. 01:52:37.480 --> 01:53:06.120 That's crazy. I didn't think they'd ever do another album again. And what's the deal, George? They are in the woods before In the Woods actually started. Something like that. Something like that, yeah. These guys have been around a long time. Yeah, well, I don't think he's in the band anymore, but Chort from Emperor was in the band at one point. At the very beginning, yeah. That's how I heard about them. I was like, oh. You know, I like it, but I like Prog, but it seems to be getting decent reviews. 01:53:06.180 --> 01:53:35.160 If you're not into this stuff, you're probably not going to like it. I gave it a listen today. It wasn't bad. No, it's cool. I mean, there seems to be a lot of bands that have been gone for a long time that are coming back and doing albums again. That's sort of the theme. That's the theme of new releases this week because the End Oceans, this was their first album in 18 years. Yeah. And George, we saw them, didn't we? At Prog Power. At Prog Power, yeah. Yeah, they were freaking great. They did, what was the album they did? Light, the light, light one. 01:53:36.180 --> 01:54:06.160 Light of Day, Day of Darkness. It's awesome. It was just like one long track. Yeah, it's one song. This next one is also another one. Well, I thought they hadn't been around for a while. Apparently they haven't stopped. But I haven't heard of them in decades, and that is Mekong Delta. But this is their 12th album, Tales of a Future Past. They're a German prog thrash band. Who knew they were still around? But it's only been like six years since their last 01:54:06.640 --> 01:54:35.760 Well, John knew, but the, um, and I bet you the one that you are thinking of George was the music of Eric Zahn, which was like in the eighties, that was like the prog thrashy blah, blah, metal thing going on at the time. Do you remember that record? Yeah. Music of Eric Zahn. Yeah. That was your second album. I actually liked, um, I heard of them, but I never listened to them back in the eighties. I liked more than that, which was when they got, I think they're kind of proggy tag was with that one. 01:54:35.780 --> 01:55:05.320 Yeah, fair enough. Yeah. But they were one of the early technical thrash prog bands. Them and Corner. You know, Corner kind of went from the full technical thrash to technical thrash prog. New Corner album coming. Oh, I can't wait. Yeah. This could be awesome. Or not. Will, were you into Corner, Will? I remember listening to them and I remember liking them, but it's been a long time. 01:55:05.420 --> 01:55:35.200 Yeah, I remember, I mean, this is like, but they would seem like they would be right in your will house. Yeah, like high school years, like 30, 40, you know, 50 years ago. Yeah, yeah. Not that long. That was me and Zeppelin. So yeah, it just I feel like that's a band that's kind of criminally unrepresented in the thrash scene because they're awesome. Yeah, I agree. Next up, this one's all for Matt. This is the only reason he's on here because Matt was like, hey, 01:55:35.280 --> 01:56:05.140 Do we have the promo for this? I want this promo. Secrets of the Moon. Black House. I want Secrets of the Moon. It's their seventh album. They're a German gothic metal band. I tried to listen to this dude and I was like, eh. I'll tell you why this is bullshit. Matt's never going to talk. English language Secrets of the Moon. It's not like, secrete, da da da, la luna, na, buah. Okay, anyway. Matt, go ahead. Which is me imitating Matt. 01:56:06.900 --> 01:56:35.220 It doesn't sound like new metal, and I hate it. Actually, what you just did was a really good job of the hut, Will, to be honest with you. Okay. Everybody shut up and let Matt talk. This is completely not the band I thought they were. You were thinking of the other band, weren't you? I was, too. By the way, this sounds like work. I'm going to stop you right there. The visual is that Matt is, like, leaning back. 01:56:35.280 --> 01:57:04.440 I'm cold. Got his headphones on. He's got his knees up. He's all relaxed. And there's flames just going in the background. You look like you're in my aunt's house when she's got the fake log in the chimney. This is my tribute to six people. Jump in the fire. I've got a tiger. It's over here. It's sleeping. Do you want me to get that on? All right. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up and let Matt talk. 01:57:05.280 --> 01:57:35.240 King Diamond, no makeup. That's what I'm going for. There must be another band that has Of The Blue. It's the same band, Matt. Is it really? Yeah, it's the last two or three albums. They went from being like a crazy black metal band to they kind of... The orgy. Well, yeah, then they kind of had some little bit... I guess they discovered Tiamat and they started sounding a little bit like that. Wow, that's unfortunate. Last album before this one was a little bit of a 01:57:35.280 --> 01:58:04.760 of goth and metal, but this one is like... I was super excited, and then I downloaded it. I was like, hey, George, can you get this? And like two seconds later, you had it, and I started listening. I'm like, oh, I'm never going to hear the end of this. This sounds like Blue Monday. Speaking of Tiamat. These guys toured with Kory. I was going to say that. That's kind of what Tiamat did. Yeah, speaking of Tiamat, John and I saw them at MDF, and boy, was that the biggest disappointment ever. Because I loved it. 01:58:04.880 --> 01:58:34.780 Oh, everything through Wild Honey, I love. Yeah, first few albums are great, and after that, it is just super suck. There's a couple that are okay, but it, yeah, it's not. We are on Sojourner under new releases. I love that Sojourner album. It's their third album, Premonitions. They're an international band, and they play on atmospheric black metal, and I know they've been, I know John likes them, 01:58:34.860 --> 01:59:04.080 I know their album artwork has been on our lists before and they seem like decent people because I feel like we've talked to them a little. Did you like the new one Markisan? I did. I thought it was really gorgeous. It's a folk influence atmosphere at all but I love Chloe's vocals on it. I love that siren like guitar sound. It's one of my favorites. I think it's more folky than the first two. Personally. Yeah. Definitely. I gave it a listen today. It was not bad. It's not bad. Yeah. I dug it. 01:59:04.260 --> 01:59:06.220 Did you say we talked to him at some point, George? 01:59:06.380 --> 01:59:06.960 Did you talk to him? 01:59:07.280 --> 01:59:09.140 I mean, just like on social media kind of thing. 01:59:09.320 --> 01:59:09.760 Oh, okay. 01:59:10.060 --> 01:59:14.000 We were thinking, because I know that a couple of them are from New Zealand 01:59:14.090 --> 01:59:16.400 that we were talking about maybe having them on. 01:59:16.640 --> 01:59:18.180 The time zones are just fucking crazy. 01:59:18.420 --> 01:59:18.540 Yeah. 01:59:18.820 --> 01:59:22.160 Although now that we've got Markisan in Hawaii, anything's possible. 01:59:23.280 --> 01:59:23.360 Yeah. 01:59:23.500 --> 01:59:29.020 I think I remember like last year, two years ago, their album cover, which I didn't really 01:59:29.240 --> 01:59:32.500 like the music much, but the album cover was like one or two. 01:59:32.840 --> 01:59:33.620 It was amazing. 01:59:33.920 --> 02:00:02.480 Yeah, and they still have some good album art. Yeah, the new one's cool too. Yeah. All right. All right, next up. If you want to take like an hour break. So it was briefly mentioned last time, but now officially under new releases is the new Thrasenblatt EP Insula. And this is the fourth EP. It sits nicely between T4 and T5. And it is fucking awesome. 02:00:05.740 --> 02:00:33.880 Well, can I just say something before you do it, George? Before you go off? I mean, I think George's man crush on Joel mostly resides in his pants, but some of that adoration definitely comes from his second head because that Joel kid is very good. It is. Heave the oars is amazing. It's good. And you guys introduced me to Throwsenbaugh, you know, when I was a listener before I was on the cast. But I think this is my favorite. I like the previous 02:00:33.900 --> 02:00:39.680 efforts that he's done but i think this might be my favorite throst and blot effort it's really good 02:00:40.780 --> 02:00:46.680 as the resident canadian on this episode dan what do you think no i think it's a great release too i uh 02:00:46.940 --> 02:00:53.040 gave it a quite a few listens in the last last week or two there and i think yeah it's really solid so i 02:00:53.080 --> 02:00:58.900 think joel did a great job so yeah excellent job were you a fan previous or is where you did you just 02:00:59.020 --> 02:01:03.880 check it out for the no no yeah no i'm familiar with the previous work as well too yeah so 02:01:03.900 --> 02:01:33.460 Did you know them before the podcast? Is that what you're going to ask, Will? Yeah, no, I did. I actually was, for me, it was just the connection was that, oh, look, another Canadian doing metal. So there you go, right? What's your opinion? Did you like it enough to go balls deep in a man's ass like George? Well, no. Next question. Okay, so were you and are you a Woods fan? 02:01:34.540 --> 02:02:02.820 A Woods fan? Woods of Epre. Oh, okay. Yes, yes I am. That means do you want to go take a walk in the woods with George and see what happens? George wants to be like to go camping. A midnight stroll through the Throssenblatt forest. Fuck yeah, I'm in the forest. You go camping with George and you wake up anyway. George, do you write fan fiction too? I don't, man. I don't. These guys just like to pick on me because I'm a fan. He does in his dreams. Nah. 02:02:03.880 --> 02:02:30.720 He is just super dedicated to Joel. The greatest part of all of this joking is the fact that Joel will come on and he will hear them fuck with me and he will join in. Oh, for sure. It doesn't freak him out. Did you say fucking and joining in in the same breath? Hey, I have stayed at his house. He knows what's up. All right. Joel is deep in a man's ass is what you're saying. No. 02:02:33.880 --> 02:03:03.860 I guess he gets the joking and is not put off by it so that's awesome I mean the amount of I think Joel's been on what like three times at least five at least right maybe five yeah so yeah I mean he always comes across super great and just a very nice dude so yeah he is an incredible person for sure yeah no no complaints there he's a great yeah for sure yeah you know Canadian and George really does above all else and I'm 02:03:03.880 --> 02:03:33.700 Sure, they are, I think, very much friends at this point, but Joyce fucking loves his music. There you go. I do. For sure. I mean, I loved his music before I knew him, and then this is another one of those go ahead and meet your heroes moments because, you know, and then after I met him and knew him, he's still an amazing person, so. Sure. You can't complain. I don't know if it's because he's Canadian and it's just inherent in Canadians, but. There's a lot of assholes up here, too, so. All right, fair enough. I mean, Dan is like night and day from Joel, clearly. Right? 02:03:33.880 --> 02:04:03.840 How? He's been great. I'm waiting. That's Joel not understanding jokes again. My hope is that the part of this relationship I'm waiting for is when Joel puts out something you don't like. And the existential crisis you're going to have. I told you about the existential crisis I had last week. He was talking about something that I can't go into too much detail about. A non-throssing blot thing that he was like, hey, what if I did this? 02:04:03.880 --> 02:04:33.820 What do you think? I thought you told us what it was. Is it a covers album or something? No, it's not a covers album. It's just like, it's just, it's just not the awesome blood. Okay. That's all I'm going to say. Imagine writing music to, to looking at Matt's porn stash in his background with his knee up right now. Like if you had to write music for that. Yeah. But yeah, anyway, I don't even know where I was going with that, but no, the existential crisis part. I mean, just, 02:04:33.880 --> 02:05:03.580 Yeah, it was just that him. Oh, yeah. Smooth favorites. I freaked out with him asking me about like, hey, what do you think if, you know. Oh, yeah. What do you think about this? And I was like, dude, don't ask me my opinion. I do not want to color what happens with your music with my stupid ass, dumb ass opinion. George, just say no. Exactly. But then he got mad at me because he was like, dude, fuck off. 02:05:03.600 --> 02:05:33.580 Don't give me your opinion. I don't. You know, that's pretty cool though, right? I mean, obviously the way, like, I mean, I don't know Joel, but I would imagine, you know, for him to ask you that, he's just like, you know, it's like talking to a buddy. It's just like, hey, what do you think? Yeah, I mean, and that's the way. That's pretty cool. That's the way I take it because like I got to hear all of the tracks on the new EP, like before they were even mixed, let alone mastered. And I gave him input and I'm used to doing that, but it's, it's just more 02:05:34.820 --> 02:05:36.120 It's just like encouragement 02:05:36.350 --> 02:05:37.180 because it's good. 02:05:38.580 --> 02:05:39.460 It's good. 02:05:39.660 --> 02:05:40.640 It's not like I have to go, 02:05:41.540 --> 02:05:42.740 well, that snare sucks. 02:05:43.600 --> 02:05:43.900 You know? 02:05:44.720 --> 02:05:46.540 It's really just, yeah, dude, that's awesome. 02:05:47.440 --> 02:05:50.720 But then when he's asking for actual input, 02:05:50.960 --> 02:05:52.300 I'm like, I don't want to influence you. 02:05:53.620 --> 02:05:54.480 So anyway. 02:05:56.860 --> 02:05:57.740 Two more new releases. 02:05:59.160 --> 02:06:00.700 Vader, Solitude in Madness, 02:06:01.680 --> 02:06:02.740 Polish death metal band. 02:06:02.880 --> 02:06:05.060 This is their 16th freaking album. 02:06:06.120 --> 02:06:10.720 They don't turn left. They don't turn right. They just fucking put the hammer into the fucking gas and go straight forward. 02:06:11.100 --> 02:06:12.740 And I have no problem with that. 02:06:13.000 --> 02:06:15.740 They use the overkill methodology. 02:06:16.680 --> 02:06:20.420 No frills, no surprises. Just if you like Vader, you'll like that. 02:06:20.680 --> 02:06:22.880 It's like overkill and Cannibal Corpse. 02:06:22.960 --> 02:06:26.980 Like, just don't change. Keep making the same shit. 02:06:27.400 --> 02:06:31.380 And that's fine with me because this is a fine record. It's good. It's just as good as the last full-length one. 02:06:31.420 --> 02:06:32.620 And the EP, which was good too. 02:06:32.720 --> 02:07:02.660 So I really love that EP that came out last year. It was good. Yeah. Yeah. And this is more of the usual of anything where it's just like, it's like 12 or 13 songs, which is, which they usually do long records too. So in any case. So this last new release is the new witchcraft album, black metal, which it is not. It is an acoustic EP. It is their sixth album. They're like psych doom. And I will turn to resident witchcraft fan Jay for an opinion on this one. 02:07:03.060 --> 02:07:32.300 Well, first off, John P.T. has a bone to pick with you because you must have said you didn't like it or something. I do not like it. No, fair enough. Well, first off. I think I'll sum it up as a waste of time. Yeah. I mean, I say what you're going to say and then I'll follow up. Well, I, you know, OK, so I'm Matt Slug Moss is my Joel or whatever. But honestly, Magnus Palander is kind of one of my Joels. And I love this guy. 02:07:32.720 --> 02:08:02.300 I really understand him and this is more about like what he's going through in his life and he seems to be going through this kind of deconstructed. Honestly, I think he's like chronic depressive or something. So this is so the last record was Nucleus, which was an amazing record. Then he did that solo record called Pellman Bear, which was acoustic. Yeah, which was good. This is an even sparser acoustic undertaking. And I honestly think he's going through some sort of crisis, but and which doesn't mean it's a bad record. What I mean is he's he's an artist, man. 02:08:02.380 --> 02:08:31.740 And somehow he's able to just show you how fucking broken he is. And I'm not saying I don't like it as much as the Pelander record, but it stands out as a piece of art like that. I mean, there's Celtic Frost stuff I don't like listening to because... It sucks. No, yeah, actually, yeah. In a way, it does. It doesn't translate. Blast for me! There's two... No, no, no. I mean, well... Yes, and there are. Cherry or Cheds. 02:08:32.360 --> 02:09:02.280 Wow, that one's almost its own genre. I mean, that, but it's, um, I didn't, it's, so what I'm trying to say is I do like it. I think it's good, but it's also, I have spent so much time listening to that band that I feel like I understand him philosophically and it totally fits with what's, what his trajectory. I just hope this guy's not getting ready to kill himself or something. Well, I will agree with that. I don't want anybody to harm themselves. However, listening to this, um, kill yourself. No, I mean, I like witchcraft. 02:09:02.460 --> 02:09:32.340 I'm not J but I have nothing against witchcraft I like witchcraft yeah but I felt like this was poorly produced I mean the sound quality is pretty crap that might have been on purpose but I don't know that and it just felt like it was thrown together quickly as a quarantine thing which is not necessarily a bad thing I mean but but then you look at what Joel did in quarantine come on it just I was just like it just so you know that and I'm sorry to bring this in to this but do you guys know the Bruce Springsteen album Nebraska 02:09:32.340 --> 02:10:02.220 Yeah. This is like his Nebraska, I think. And Nebraska was that. He made this acoustic demos to make a rock record, and he just decided to put out the fucking demos. And the other thing I know about Magnus Palander is he's a massive fan of music, and I'm almost sure that this is, he's referring to some point in somebody else's career with this. Like, he wanted one of these records. It's weird as that sounds. I just feel like you should have spent a little more time on it, is all. Oh, no, definitely. And I do like it, but it's hard to listen to and all that. 02:10:06.200 --> 02:10:32.320 I hope they do on the next record quite frankly I think after the Pelander thing I was ready for a little more electric guitar myself so hopefully I'll get back to that but but yeah I think this guy's I wouldn't be surprised if he just gave it all up and became a painter now or something that's how much of an artist I think this guy is and I think he's really truly trying to express honestly I think he has some mental illness to be blunt like schizophrenia or one of those the guy that cut his ear off Van Gogh 02:10:32.360 --> 02:11:02.320 Yeah, and he refers to it in his music. And I can't say that for sure. I don't know that he's been diagnosed with anything. But I also know that some of my favorite artists have been mentally ill people, in truth, in all truth. And that sounds odd, but it's true. Thank you. Thank you. I will also just point out, and I don't think he would mind me saying this, because he said it on our very big podcast, but Matt Slug Moss has schizophrenia. Yes, he does. He shared that with us on the podcast. And I tend to find that some of those people have this artistic connection to 02:11:02.340 --> 02:11:31.120 some stream of something that's meaningful. I'm not saying that I don't articulate. I suspect that about Magnus Billander. I feel like everything I love has this X factor to it. And a lot of them tend to be the guys like that. Take that for what it's worth. Well, even in comics, it's like that too. There's a lot of people just have mental issues. I've noticed, especially artists. And they deal with it, you know, but I think part of it kind of informs what they're doing as well. 02:11:31.720 --> 02:11:55.460 You know, I would, just as another example of that, I have pitched Rocky Erickson on this podcast a couple times who died not long ago, and Rocky was a schizophrenic, and, but he had this, every once in a while, he was so tapped into the vein of something, man, and it was because I think he lacked some of the filters we all have. Natural filters that keep us away from the fucking ether, or whatever the fuck you want to call it. I don't know. 02:11:55.470 --> 02:11:58.880 Well, remember Jay from Crowhurst, too, who was talking about that. 02:11:59.160 --> 02:11:59.340 That's right. 02:11:59.360 --> 02:12:00.500 He was almost suicidal. 02:12:01.160 --> 02:12:30.380 That's another guy we should definitely have on for a wellness check. For sure. So you let me rant longer than you should have but the truth is that I think it's a complicated record in all truth and I think it I'm interested to see what happens next but I actually got this whole suicide message from it that just bothered me. Wow, that's not cool. No, and I mean he talks about it. He says like I think some of the last lyrics are I hope you haven't gotten bored listening to my Requiem but happiness comes from sadness or something like that and that's fucked up dude. 02:12:30.700 --> 02:12:31.220 We'll see. 02:12:31.600 --> 02:12:31.700 Yeah. 02:12:31.860 --> 02:12:36.880 No, I mean, I'm not a big fan of this album, but I certainly hope he is well. 02:12:37.820 --> 02:12:37.940 Yeah. 02:12:38.520 --> 02:12:39.760 He also, he's got, you know what? 02:12:39.820 --> 02:12:41.840 I think he might be a big fan of Sid Barrett. 02:12:42.500 --> 02:12:42.900 Oh, no. 02:12:43.600 --> 02:12:46.620 And you remember how Sid Barrett, how different he looked towards the end of his life? 02:12:46.740 --> 02:12:47.440 You know what I'm talking about, John? 02:12:47.600 --> 02:12:47.700 Yeah. 02:12:48.560 --> 02:12:51.700 And Magnus Ballander does not look the way he did when the Firewood album came out, dude. 02:12:51.840 --> 02:12:52.680 He's gained a lot of weight. 02:12:52.980 --> 02:12:55.320 He's just kind of, he looks like he's a shut-in. 02:12:56.980 --> 02:12:57.400 So what are you saying? 02:12:57.480 --> 02:12:58.920 If you gain a lot of weight, you're going to kill yourself? 02:13:00.960 --> 02:13:28.580 No, but to be a fairly charismatic front of a fairly charismatic rock band and you don't have that weird trigger that so many of them have, which is like they feel like they're being watched and so they have to look good. Yeah. And he doesn't have that because I think mental illness can do that to you. I should shut up. I like it. And I really want to know why it's called black metal. I want to interview him so bad. He named a black metal for a very specific reason. 02:13:28.660 --> 02:13:58.580 And I don't know what it is. Or it's ironic because it is so nowhere near black metal. But yes, I assume it's black because of the content and not the musical style. I have a theory about it because it's also a really narcissistic record. And I know I'm really like going off here. But and black metal is a kind of narcissistic type thing. And I feel like this is his interpretation of black metal, believe it or not. I may be attaching too much genius to the people. 02:13:58.660 --> 02:14:00.260 that I love, but I would love to talk to this guy sometime. 02:14:01.380 --> 02:14:01.580 All right. 02:14:02.340 --> 02:14:02.420 Yeah. 02:14:03.180 --> 02:14:04.100 That was too much. 02:14:04.540 --> 02:14:05.700 Nah, it was good. 02:14:06.220 --> 02:14:06.680 It was good. 02:14:06.900 --> 02:14:07.300 It was tuned out. 02:14:07.880 --> 02:14:08.000 Yeah. 02:14:08.860 --> 02:14:09.080 All right. 02:14:09.260 --> 02:14:16.060 Well, we're going to move on now to our top, not five, but 10, because it's me and 02:14:16.060 --> 02:14:17.600 I indulge myself. 02:14:42.360 --> 02:14:43.780 The top ten. 02:14:44.380 --> 02:14:46.280 By the way, we totally could have done five. 02:14:46.720 --> 02:14:46.800 Nah. 02:14:47.120 --> 02:15:14.800 It had to be 10. It turned out to be 10. I was like, oh, 10 is a good number. So our top 10 favorite concert sets. Now, there seemed to be a lot of confusion about this. So when you go to a concert and there's multiple bands, each band has a set. So if you hate the headliner, but like the opener, you can say the opening band's set is on your list. 02:15:14.880 --> 02:15:44.720 So our top 10 favorite concert sets. And to put him on the spot, we will start with Dan. What is your number 10? Sure. Number 10 is a Canadian band out of Toronto called Sacrifice. I don't know if you guys are familiar with them at all. I am. I saw them. Yeah, I saw them on the Forward to Termination tour. So that was their second album. And I even put down the dates and everything. What year? What year? September. 02:15:44.920 --> 02:16:14.740 September 15, 1990. Dude, I saw them around, right around then. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's going to come into play with my number 10. That's all I'm going to say. All right. Yeah. No, it was, I still remember a lot about that show. It was insane. It was, I think they opened up for Razor, I believe. And it was in a venue in the, we actually have like a French part of Winnipeg called St. Boniface. And it was in a venue there. 02:16:14.880 --> 02:16:44.780 called Le Rendezvous. And it was just out of control of how many people were in there. And it's a small venue, and it definitely overcapacitated, over way too many people, I would say. But it was a great time, though. Isn't St. Boniface the patron saint in brewing or something? Is it? I think so. Look it up. Let's just say yes and move on. I'm sorry. After 30 minutes, 02:16:44.900 --> 02:17:14.780 of an acoustic black metal bullshit album and you're going to move on because I say something about brewing. Fuck yourself. I mean, we do have fun. Okay. So, so if you go, if you go on Google and type in St. Boniface and it suggests the first thing it says is beer. So I'm going to guess you're right. You nailed it. You know, just so you guys know too, Le Rendezvous in English is the rendezvous. So I don't know if that helps. 02:17:16.639 --> 02:17:44.580 Sorry. Didn't Sacrifice just reform fairly recently? They've never broken up. Oh, well, there you go. Yeah, they've still been around all of these years. Like they've played here maybe three or four times in the last 10 years or so. So not a lot, but no, they're still doing it though. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. All right. Markisan number 10. All right. Hopefully I'm still coming through here. You are sounding perfect. 02:17:44.880 --> 02:18:13.019 Oh, that's great news. It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. That's awesome. All right. So I put a couple like hard rock things on here just because they're more memorable as well. And my number 10 would fall in that category. And it's a King's X at the House of Blues in Chicago. That is the most animated I have ever seen, John, on the podcast. King's X is awesome. I know. I'm one of my favorite bands all the time. And they're one of the loudest bands I've ever seen. Yeah. 02:18:17.239 --> 02:18:43.120 I've seen Kings X probably like 20 times. So I'm a huge fan. I got a couple of my friends who ended up going with this show. And it's a different show for me because Kings X was the middle band in the show. And I went just to see them play because I love Kings X. And that is the opening point of this fucking top 10. 02:18:44.880 --> 02:19:14.840 That's another reason why I wanted to put it on here, even though it's hard rock. Yeah, but they get heavy. They have mental moments. Yeah. Yeah. So the opening act was this insanity called the Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp, which is this interactive musical circus where these average Joes get to perform on stage with a rock star mentor. I've heard of this. It was Kip Winger who was one of the mentors that night. I think. Yeah, you say that, George, but he's actually a pretty good 02:19:14.880 --> 02:19:43.460 Yeah, but fucking winger. Sorry. But this is a train wreck, though. So I suffered through that, and I made sure to arrive late. So I only saw a little bit of it. And then, of course, King's X tore it up in the middle. I made sure to arrive late. That's a good show. I know that one. And so King's X was amazing. Who did you ditch for the headliner? The headliner. Extreme. I like extreme. On what tour? What tour was extreme on? 02:19:44.040 --> 02:20:13.600 I have no idea. I have no idea. Awesome guitars. I agree, but I don't, I don't, I don't. I like the first three extreme albums. I would, I would be there to check them out for the porno graffiti album. I really would. Yeah, for sure. Even, even the third albums. Yeah. People think to hear the two songs. They think they know extreme and they're nothing like that. So, yeah. Well, I stuck around for a couple of the songs because one of the guys wanted to do that, but, you know, 02:20:14.060 --> 02:20:43.900 I'm just not a fan of Extreme. Even though, yes, I recognize they're pretty good players, but I just don't like their albums. So as far as I can remember, this is one of maybe two or three times that I've gone to a show specifically to see the supporting band. Oh, I've done that a bunch of times, yeah. That's totally worth it for King's X. I mean, anytime King's X comes anywhere near me, I'm going to go see them play because they're always good live. They're awesome. Right on. All right, Matt. My number 10, also a little bit outside the metal genre, 1998, I saw Fuga. 02:20:44.040 --> 02:21:13.420 Oh, I love Fugazi. Awesome. They were the headliner. But yeah, it was, I mean, to this day, I still remember how amazing that show was. Yeah. Why was it? You know, I'd want to see Fugazi for years and I convinced Eric to go with me. Eric! And it was literally $6 and we went to this very popular venue here called First Avenue. And I mean, you could just see like, 02:21:14.680 --> 02:21:35.800 What I'd heard previously is that they don't actually have a set list when they play. And you could kind of tell that when they were doing it based on their nods to each other. But I mean, it was just this, you know, just this set of, you know, it just flowed perfectly. And it was just, you know, to hear all these songs on albums for years, for probably a decade, and then to watch them play, it was such a different experience. And man, I mean, my mind was blown. 02:21:35.980 --> 02:21:37.760 What's your favorite album by them, Matt? 02:21:37.960 --> 02:22:05.980 You know, honestly, I'm this guy who I tend to love the first album I heard by the band. And with them, it was In On The Killtaker. And while that's a huge departure from things like 13 Songs or I can't think of the one after that. Repeater. Yeah. Even Study Diet of Nothing. But, you know, I feel like In On The Killtaker is a much more like refined and polished album and kind of the start of that for them. Did they play merchandise? 02:22:08.220 --> 02:22:37.180 Fuck, I can't even remember. My favorite's Red Medicine, actually. Red Afternoon. Same. Red Afternoon is my favorite. Absolutely. Let me ask you this. Did they have merchandise? Yes, they did. That is my favorite song. And I've lived in Fugazi Town for 23 years and I've never seen them. Absolutely. Ian McKay's got so many other bands. It was so funny. I've never really been a big Dave Rill fan. And then he did the whole Lost Highway show and I was like, 02:22:37.940 --> 02:23:07.700 Fuck, this is going to be lame. I turned on first episode. I turned on first episode. I'm like, fuck me. All right. So this is legit. You know? Yeah. I liked it. I mean, I'm a, I like Foo Fighters. I mean, I'm don't like everything, but I like them well enough. Foo Fighters is like a greatest hits band. Like, I don't want to listen to their albums. I just want to listen to the best songs from each album. Yeah. I mean, they're like the living remnant of the nineties. You know, everybody else is dead and yeah, they're still around. 02:23:08.579 --> 02:23:37.240 How do you put them up against Lady Gaga? You know, it's funny because Dan and I had a conversation earlier today that I'm not going to out him on anything, but we discussed Lady Gaga. No, we discussed her. I'm not going to give an opinion, but Dan can say it if he wants to. All I'll say was, no, I just saw her live on SNL and I was just, I was actually impressed by her, to be honest. It was her and the piano and nothing else. 02:23:37.280 --> 02:24:07.200 And I was just like, wow, she can actually sing. Yeah, she's telling it. Yeah, for sure. She's telling the musician, but I've been blown away like that before too. I remember, and I'm not making this up. I remember singing, seeing at the height of his fucking popularity, seeing MC Hammer, who I hate on Saturday night live. And it was like this explosive performance though. I was blown away by the dancing. I was just, they all, it was this manic, manic dancing that blew me out of the water. That's the last thing I thought you were going to say. And it's my first and last experience with them. 02:24:07.300 --> 02:24:12.760 I can't stand that shit but I was just like what a fucking production so would you say you can't touch this 02:24:14.540 --> 02:24:20.300 hey Matt it's because they're both ace fans I got you that's right he does show up at the uh he comes 02:24:20.380 --> 02:24:27.280 through his first pitch every once in a while he's the funky headhunter all right let's move on to let's move on to John 02:24:28.660 --> 02:24:37.260 okay so uh like our Matt and Markisan I went with a hard rock band because this is my very first 02:24:37.280 --> 02:25:05.640 show that I didn't go to without my parents. I was 13. It was 1982. Jay will appreciate this. It was at the Cow Palace in Daly City. Does the band start with an M? No. 1982. There you go, George. It was the Red Rocker home show, Sammy Hagar. Wow. It's just unreal how good it was. 02:25:07.260 --> 02:25:10.640 I was going to guess Montrose. 02:25:13.219 --> 02:25:15.040 And half the show was Montrose. 02:25:16.780 --> 02:25:19.760 But just to be a 13-year-old, and he opened up with heavy metal. 02:25:24.520 --> 02:25:28.440 So it's strange, because you have to live in the Bay Area to know how the Bay Area scene is. 02:25:29.360 --> 02:25:30.680 And there's just so many bands. 02:25:31.200 --> 02:25:33.200 And you end up liking a lot of bands. 02:25:33.500 --> 02:26:03.360 I love St. Man, but you like bands, even if they're not your thing, just because it's a Bay Area thing. And they're always playing there. And the shows are huge. And it kind of gets forgotten because everyone says, oh, L.A. and New York and all that. But the Bay Area has such a diverse scene. And it was just a crazy show. It was insane. And if you've been to the Cow Palace, you know what I'm talking about. It's just this weird place for the ground. Was it Grand National? Yeah. I have not been to the Cow Palace. 02:26:04.540 --> 02:26:32.740 However, I did see Sammy Hagar once, and it was like six years ago, maybe. Under what guys was he? It was solo. It was at the Washington Nationals Baseball Stadium. In the summer, they do these after-game concerts, and Barb and I went to a game, specifically because Sammy Hagar was going to be there. 02:26:33.500 --> 02:27:03.480 And, you know, the game ends and like 95% of everybody leaves. And they bring this stage out into the outfield and Sammy Hagar plays. And in a stadium, a baseball stadium, he sounded fucking amazing. And there was like, you know, 100 people there. And I know that was a few years ago, but you know how fucking old that guy is? He's like 70s. Like 72, I think. No, 71 or 72. By the way, Jay, when I saw him, I'm sorry, George, but I saw him, half the band was from the NBA. 02:27:03.520 --> 02:27:33.220 Montrose. Because it was like, well, let's see. It was Bill Church. I think the drummer. What was the record he was touring for? Do you remember? Standing Hampton. Standing Hampton. Yeah. He's a big conspiracy theorist. Did you guys know that? Yeah. He says he's been abducted by aliens. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. I read his book. He's fucking nuts. I don't care. He's Sammy fucking Hagar. It makes pretty good tequila. Yeah. I was going to say so. Yeah. I've got some upstairs, man. That Cabo Wabo. 02:27:33.500 --> 02:28:03.460 Every move that guy's made, he's made gazillions of dollars. Yeah, by accident. He turns the corner and he's fucking rich. He has so much money. Yeah, I think I'll join Van Halen. We'll sell more records than they did with David Leroth. I'll make tequila. He also has really good hair. Yeah. He does, for a guy who's fucking 72. That's his curls for days. Yeah. All right, Will. What are we doing now? Ten. We're going to be here a while. Will, they're just going to all be Slayers. 02:28:03.520 --> 02:28:04.680 shows to just give the tour. 02:28:05.220 --> 02:28:07.100 No, there's only two. 02:28:09.960 --> 02:28:12.460 Nuclear Assault at MDF in 2016. 02:28:13.060 --> 02:28:13.640 Yes! 02:28:14.360 --> 02:28:23.100 It was 25, 30 years, whatever it was, since I saw Nuclear Assault for the first time at the Allentown Fairground. 02:28:23.640 --> 02:28:28.320 Allentown Music Hall in probably 1989, probably 1990. 02:28:28.980 --> 02:28:30.120 Damn, it was like Survive? 02:28:32.220 --> 02:28:32.780 or like... 02:28:32.780 --> 02:28:33.500 Your Handle Care. 02:28:34.040 --> 02:28:35.300 Yeah, one of them. 02:28:35.560 --> 02:28:38.800 But then when I saw them at NDF, and that was the first time they played in a long time, 02:28:39.660 --> 02:28:41.440 it just harked me back to high school. 02:28:41.800 --> 02:28:43.040 That was such a cool set. 02:28:43.160 --> 02:28:43.640 I was there too. 02:28:43.760 --> 02:28:44.460 I just... 02:28:44.680 --> 02:28:45.280 We were all there. 02:28:45.340 --> 02:28:45.820 We were all there. 02:28:45.940 --> 02:28:46.520 Yeah, we were all there. 02:28:46.720 --> 02:28:47.980 But it was just like... 02:28:48.399 --> 02:28:49.680 Yeah, that was awesome. 02:28:49.940 --> 02:28:50.320 It was. 02:28:51.680 --> 02:28:51.980 All right. 02:28:52.859 --> 02:28:54.700 And now to Jacef. 02:28:55.659 --> 02:28:59.660 Mine comes from that very same couple of days. 02:28:59.860 --> 02:29:01.640 I wonder if George could put it on his list. 02:29:01.760 --> 02:29:31.200 It's the only one on my list that is the band that I'm honestly not that crazy about. And this didn't necessarily change my opinion of them, except that they came out and just played this fucking knock you over, drop dead set. It was at MDF 2016 and it was Hyricks. Do you remember that fucking George? Yes. And we met him. We met. Oh, yeah. And I can't say enough. Like, and I think George even tweeted at the time or Facebooked, Hyricks wins Death Fest. And it was, they were, and I was like, Exciter was coming on right before after them. 02:29:31.240 --> 02:30:01.100 And I was so excited to see Exciter. Hyerics took all that away. I was just like, they made my day. Oh man, I forgot about, I did not include that, but that is what, that was a great set. Yeah. So that's it. I'm not, not even close to being one of my favorite bands or anything like that, but it was just one of those things where it was like magic. But he's so fucking metal and so consistent. He's awesome. I found out recently, just recently that he is the DJ at the rainbow. Wow. Yeah. Interesting. In any case, I pass it on to you, George. All right. My number 10, uh, is, 02:30:01.240 --> 02:30:27.620 as it relates to Dan's number 10. Dan's number 10 opened for my number 10. And this is Morbid Angel on their Altars of Madness tour. And I saw them play the Michigan Death Fest along with Sacrifice, Nuclear Death, and some other bands that were not memorable. 02:30:31.220 --> 02:31:00.880 My first like extreme metal show. I mean, I'd been to Metallica and like Death Angel and stuff like that. But and I locked my keys in the car at this fucking show. I was like almost almost the most memorable moment of this was having to get somebody to bring me my keys. But me and Bill Copenhaver from Dexter, Michigan, we went to Jackson, Michigan, where they had the first and possibly last annual Michigan Death Fest in 1990. 02:31:02.180 --> 02:31:02.580 Wow. 02:31:04.300 --> 02:31:30.560 You know, I meant to editorialize briefly or share a story myself because just because of the King's X thing. And I had to tell you that I saw King's X and the Gretchen Ghost in Nebraska tour in Tucson, and it was not at all publicized. And this is I'm telling you the absolute truth about the someone plays called the Tucson Garden, which is just a club. And there it was me, my friend, his girlfriend, and maybe two other people there. That was it. 02:31:31.159 --> 02:32:00.560 I mean five people that the band that opened for them was Masters of Reality if you remember them yeah and the crowd size doubled when Masters of Reality was done because they came out and sat with us because they felt so sorry for King's X and it was it ended up being the most amazing show to the point where they kept playing and they were kind of laughing because it was like the smattering of just golf applause even though we were going nuts literally like eight people dude and they said they finally just said okay what do you guys want to hear they just stopped started talking to us and they're like and we and 02:32:00.580 --> 02:32:30.240 I'm not joking. We asked them to play a song that they'd already played once or they played it again. That's an absolutely true story. And then they just, when they were done, they came down and sat with us and we all just sat around for an hour and had beer and stuff. It was fucking awesome. That was the album that had over my head, right? Yeah. Right. So was that, was that before, like when, when you saw that show, was that before say like that song kind of broke, broke on MTV? Yeah. I actually, I mean, I'm not joking. It might have broken MTV. 02:32:30.600 --> 02:32:59.940 or showed up on MTV like that week. Because we saw, me and my friends saw this video and we're like, check these fucking guys out. This is awesome. And then just, I swear to God, we're walking down the road and saw a poster and we're like, dude, that's that band. Let's go see them. And we even apologized. We were like, dude, seriously, we didn't even know you were coming until two days ago. You know what I mean? Like we were telling them why nobody showed up. But so it was like right at that moment when they were becoming visible. And I'll never forget that show was amazing. And they were so good. They came out and played a whole fucking show. They were fucking awesome. 02:33:00.020 --> 02:33:29.960 That should be on your list. I guess it's like you're nine and a half. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. It should have been because it was special. All right. Fucking bad. So I forgot to do this. We're going to take a quick break between 10 and 9. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds good. Yeah. So let's just take a quick break. We'll be back in a couple minutes. All right. Yeah. You're listening to the Metalheads podcast. These guys have faces made for radio. I apologize. 02:33:30.020 --> 02:33:35.640 in advance for the fact that it's almost midnight and we're on nine yeah i was gonna say like let's say 02:33:35.800 --> 02:33:42.900 well dan welcome to our world you may listen to two and a half hours it actually takes four hours to do 02:33:43.040 --> 02:33:54.500 this um somebody wanted to do a top 10 i know i know well hey somebody's thinking of a 10 if we didn't stop and spend half an hour on each album it would move faster 02:33:55.020 --> 02:34:24.320 Well, you've got to talk about. I know. I'm sorry. But it's just I had so many good ones, I didn't want to leave them out. Well, we can all try to make the promise to be super succinct. All right. Yeah. All right. Moving on to number nine, Dan. Yeah. So number nine is a band where my connection actually kind of starts with their demo days. I remember being with a friend and we were driving to the US. 02:34:24.520 --> 02:34:54.480 for my very first time we were going to Grand Forks we were both 21 and we were listening to Gore Guts yeah and the name of the demo was what and then comes Liberty or whatever I think I think that's what the name was but I saw Gore Guts finally for the first time even though they're Canadian just four years ago actually October 10th 2016 at the Park Theater in Winnipeg and so that's like whatever I don't know 30 years in the making you can say that that I 02:34:54.520 --> 02:34:56.180 I've been waiting to see these guys. So yeah. 02:34:56.720 --> 02:34:58.680 Actually, I guess see Luke LeMay. So yeah. 02:34:58.980 --> 02:35:00.020 So that show was mind blowing. 02:35:00.500 --> 02:35:00.680 Yeah. 02:35:00.920 --> 02:35:02.600 It's him and the guys from Disprism. 02:35:02.760 --> 02:35:02.980 Yeah. 02:35:03.779 --> 02:35:04.140 Yeah. 02:35:04.620 --> 02:35:04.700 Yeah. 02:35:04.940 --> 02:35:06.060 Call it card Martinson there. 02:35:06.240 --> 02:35:06.420 Yeah. 02:35:06.660 --> 02:35:07.080 That's awesome. 02:35:07.620 --> 02:35:07.760 Yeah. 02:35:09.240 --> 02:35:09.560 All right. 02:35:10.020 --> 02:35:10.880 They're done now. 02:35:10.950 --> 02:35:11.040 Right. 02:35:11.200 --> 02:35:11.740 And at the end of that, 02:35:11.850 --> 02:35:12.180 I was in, 02:35:12.250 --> 02:35:13.020 they call it a day. 02:35:14.480 --> 02:35:14.780 Did they? 02:35:15.200 --> 02:35:15.420 No, 02:35:15.540 --> 02:35:15.760 no, 02:35:15.760 --> 02:35:15.820 no, 02:35:15.840 --> 02:35:17.240 I'm thinking I got a lock. 02:35:18.020 --> 02:35:18.100 Yeah. 02:35:18.240 --> 02:35:18.520 Yeah. 02:35:18.600 --> 02:35:18.700 Yeah. 02:35:18.810 --> 02:35:18.900 Yeah. 02:35:18.900 --> 02:35:19.400 Yeah. 02:35:19.400 --> 02:35:19.580 Yeah. 02:35:19.580 --> 02:35:20.100 Yeah. 02:35:20.410 --> 02:35:20.500 Yeah. 02:35:21.739 --> 02:35:22.280 All right. 02:35:22.380 --> 02:35:22.920 Mark is on. 02:35:24.200 --> 02:35:53.680 Number nine for me is Graves at Sea at Reggie's Music Giant in Chicago. Nice. April 24th, 2016. They came around to Chicago to support their album, The Curse That Is, which is one of my favorites in 2016. Great album. I have the shirt. Yes. They played at Reggie's, which is a pretty well-known venue for metal and other music in Chicago. There's a record store upstairs, and they have two stages. One's the Rock Club, which has a capacity for about 400 people standing. 02:35:54.200 --> 02:36:24.160 And then there's the music joint, which is a small bar set up in the back. And there's just like a rug and the stage is basically ground level. And you can maybe get 100 people in there. So that's where Graves at Sea played. But like Jay was saying, when he saw King's X, there's only, I think, maybe only 25 people showed up to the show. And honestly, most of them, I think, were just there to be at the bar and drink beer. So this set was just particularly memorable to me because there were times there was just only maybe two or three 02:36:24.200 --> 02:36:52.699 people standing in front of the band like where the pit would be you know and they put out an amazing show and i liked it because you could hear everything very clearly because there's no background noise um i love small intimate shows but this was just like on another level of intimacy and i think it's always going to stand out because of that and i ended up just drinking beers in the band and stuff so pretty cool yeah that's very cool great great band great album cool but i wish more people had come to see him too you know yeah 02:36:53.720 --> 02:37:22.460 All right, Matt, number nine. My number nine, it was 1997. I just graduated from high school and four of my chums, including our friend Eric, made a road trip from Duluth to Milwaukee for Lollapalooza. And this was, I don't dislike this band now. I just don't follow them as much, but this is probably the high point in my interest in them. That was Tool. I got Lollapalooza. 02:37:22.700 --> 02:37:52.200 A bill that also included Snoop Dogg and Devo. Korn was also on the bill, but they had to cancel because someone was sick. For the best. I mean, they were touring for, I say, Enema, because I don't feel like making the weird pronunciation of the album. It's Enema. Yeah, Enema. I think that's how they pronounce it, yeah. And I just remember them playing like Hooker with a Penis, and they were so tight, and I mean, just pounding. I love Hooker with a Penis. 02:37:52.240 --> 02:38:21.800 Yeah. And it was the song too. Yeah. But we were, I mean, we were like in the, you realize you just said hooker of the penis. So I was like pounding. I did. It was out loud. We were in like the, I don't know, probably like the 20th row in front of speakers. And we were all just blown away. But I mean, they're great live. They're just, I saw them on Lollapalooza for undertow. Oh, nice. Nice. Why can't we not be sober church? Indeed. 02:38:23.040 --> 02:38:51.760 I'm not at all. All right. John. So my number nine is a band. I'm not that big of a fan of, but it's probably the best live show I've ever seen in terms of crowd participation and band performance. It was insane. And I had no intentions on watching them. I was with TR at Prague power last year. We weren't going to stay. We said, 02:38:52.280 --> 02:39:22.200 a couple songs. I really care. Oh, I have a guess. I'm so interested. And we stayed for like 13 of the 14 songs. And then we just got tired. It was unreal. I've never seen a crowd like that before. And that was Demons and Wizards. Oh, yeah. I was wondering. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of Hansi anyway from Blind Guardian. And John Schaefer's a decent guy, a guitar player. You know, he's all right. He's a little bit weird. 02:39:25.020 --> 02:39:28.620 He's a decent player. He writes some decent stuff, but 02:39:29.380 --> 02:39:32.560 together, those guys are magic, man, on stage. They really are. 02:39:33.740 --> 02:39:36.900 I think they're making another record right now. They did. It came out this year. 02:39:37.250 --> 02:39:38.880 I think they're making another one. Oh, fourth. 02:39:40.240 --> 02:39:47.980 But just real quick, I mean, they played a lot of stuff in the first two albums, but they did two songs from Blind Guardian, two songs from Ice Earth. 02:39:49.620 --> 02:40:17.280 But when they played Valhalla, I'm not kidding when I tell you this, and T.R. will back me in the state, the crowd sang the end of Valhalla for like five minutes after the band had finished playing the song. Wow. I mean, it was just insane. I mean, I mean, they ripped off Burning Times by Ice Earth. It just went crazy. And then it went right into Welcome to Dying by My Guardian. Damn. And I was just like, I'm staying. I'm not going anywhere. This is fucking awesome. 02:40:17.380 --> 02:40:20.440 I meant to mention it earlier during 02:40:22.160 --> 02:40:22.920 new releases 02:40:23.520 --> 02:40:24.900 the Mekong Delta 02:40:26.099 --> 02:40:27.340 that gave me 02:40:27.740 --> 02:40:29.300 like whenever he goes to hit a high note 02:40:29.740 --> 02:40:30.740 that's so Matt Barlow 02:40:32.439 --> 02:40:33.760 totally I was like 02:40:33.780 --> 02:40:35.000 oh this is so Iced Earth 02:40:35.740 --> 02:40:37.160 or Matt Barlow anyway 02:40:37.660 --> 02:40:38.320 or Paul Stanley 02:40:40.800 --> 02:40:41.820 Matt Barlow sounds like 02:40:41.940 --> 02:40:43.280 Paul Stanley on those notes man he does 02:40:43.720 --> 02:40:44.640 what ifs 02:40:45.220 --> 02:40:46.141 I'm telling you 02:40:46.140 --> 02:41:16.100 I cannot confirm or deny that at this time. I have to listen again. But yeah. Anyway, I meant to mention that and I forgot. All right. Will. A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, I used to travel around the world and do all kinds of weird shit. And one of those times I was traveling around the world doing some weird shit. I was in Bogota, Colombia. I was walking down the street. I was walking down the street. 02:41:16.160 --> 02:41:45.740 Oh, I know what this is. I know what this is, too. And I'm very used to walking down and seeing, like, you know, the bills plastered all over the side of a wall of a building or, you know, whatever construction site. And you see, like, oh, Iron Maiden in Bogota. Oh, with Donkey. Yeah, and that was six months ago. Oh, Metallica's gonna play. Oh, that was last year. And then one time we were walking down and I was with this guy. 02:41:45.800 --> 02:42:15.780 He kind of likes metal on the periphery. And I saw sick of it all. I was like, oh, that's cool. And I'm like, didn't really pay. I'm like, wait, that's in like three days. We'll be out in the field. I'll be embedded with the Columbia military. I'm going to come back. I'm going to come back. I literally saw sick of it all in Bogota, Columbia in this weird abandoned warehouse where because of the security situation, I literally had to leave my 02:42:15.820 --> 02:42:45.720 belt, guns, knives, like everything, like literally my belt. I was like, okay, I can see my guns and my fucking belt. But it was. Hold on. Hold on. I love that you're like, the security was so tight that like I couldn't take my guns. No, but no, no, but it was weird because you had to take, you had to literally take your belt off. Like, I'm like, what the fuck? That part, like, okay, yeah. Like, you know, guns and knives and all that. Anyway. 02:42:45.780 --> 02:43:15.760 But sick of it all in Bogota, Colombia, the reaction from the crowd, what I remember, and I've been a sick of it all fan since their very first like hardcore album came out, Blood, Sweat, No Tears. And I almost put that on my Facebook feed as in like albums that influenced me because that's one, I'm a sick of it all fan. It's not my typical genre that I like, but I love these guys. But seeing them and the reaction of the crowd of all these guys, 02:43:15.800 --> 02:43:42.840 These mad raving young fucking kids. And I'm talking like I was probably in my late 30s and I was the oldest person there by 20 years. It was a great set. It was unbelievably fantastic. A lot of fun. Yeah, I can't imagine that would be awesome. Did your pants stay up with no bell? Nah. I don't think it was that excited they did. 02:43:45.780 --> 02:44:14.700 Let's just say he was excited enough that it stayed up without it because there was something holding it up. Hey, Marcuson, he had a second belt. Probably a garter belt. All right, Jay. All right, I don't mean to keep giving shout outs to Marcuson, but I also just want to say I saw Graves at Sea on that tour and it was fucking badass, dude. More people than at your show, but not a lot. It was a pretty quiet show, was probably under advertised and that record was so fucking good. 02:44:15.800 --> 02:44:45.360 They came out and tore it up. And they did. But my number nine is after growing up in the Lake of the Ozarks where there was no concerts, they had to drive four hours in one direction to get to a concert. And there certainly wasn't anything underground or extreme or anything. And I moved to Tucson my senior year. That summer before school started, Slayer came to town and I was a Slayer fanatic. And so I went down. 02:44:46.739 --> 02:45:15.040 And I was excited about it for weeks. Spent a whole day running around town with a friend of mine, smoking pot in graveyards and stuff, and just doing the most slayer shit we could think of. Anyway, go to the show, get there five hours early or some fucking thing, greet the bus when it comes in, got to meet all the guys, got pictures taken, which I don't know where they are. This would be a 17-year-old Jay with long hair, with Kerry King, with hair. We've seen some long-haired Jay pictures recently. 02:45:15.100 --> 02:45:45.020 I have a friend who I know has these photos and I want to get them. But in any case, and it was like all of my metal dreams kind of like this was probably only my third or fourth or fifth real concert because I had lived in this like bucolic place. And here it was like my favorite band and it was everything I thought it would be. It was a South of Heaven tour. They just came out and just fucking tore the roof off the joint and people went nuts, dude. This place was great. 02:45:45.120 --> 02:46:14.940 And on a couple of occasions, they had to replace the, they had like this, uh, AstroTurf carpet in there. And on a couple of occasions, them. And when I saw Anthrax one time, they had to replace the carpet because the mosh pit was so insane that it was ripped. It was ripped up from stuff. And I remember seeing this guy come out of the pit, which is like jaw, like dislocated. And he went right back in. I have, I have, I now have three comments on that. First of all, the, uh, my number 10, the morbid angel concert, somebody, 02:46:15.120 --> 02:46:43.180 We fucking came out with a broken arm. Sure. From the pit. Those were the days. Yeah. I saw my first time seeing Slayer was on Divine Intervention, which was also in the Orbit Room, a small place in Kalamazoo, Michigan, which was fucking intense. And, you know, I mean, it was like seeing them at Fillmore, which we have. The Fillmore is not small. It was smaller than the Fillmore. Okay. It was smaller. 02:46:44.660 --> 02:47:13.120 Fuck, I forget what the third thing is. Well, actually, while you're thinking of it, I'll quickly mention too, this was the Tucson Garden, the same place I saw King's X a few years later. So this would have been 88, and it was just like, anyway. It was the high point of my life to this day. I had the only extreme band, if you want to call them extreme. So it's your number eight and not your number one. Well, I mean, yeah, but I mean, there are other reasons that some of my stuff is rated higher. 02:47:13.180 --> 02:47:43.160 But I had the only thrash saw I had seen before that was Flotsam Jetson when they came and they were doing it on the No Place for Disgrace. They played a week before No Place for Disgrace came out. They came because they're from Phoenix. They came out in Tucson and played one show to celebrate the record, get ready to come out. And that was insane, too. But wow. Anyway, Slayer. All right. That leaves me at number nine. Motorhead on the 1916 tour on the Operation 02:47:43.460 --> 02:48:12.480 and roll tour, which was during Desert Storm. So it was, you know, military inspired. And this was the first time I saw Motorhead. And this is when I absolutely fell in love with Lemmy. Particularly when he came out and played Love Me Forever or Not at All. I was just like, I mean, I was like, Lemmy is a fucking rock and roll god. 02:48:13.180 --> 02:48:41.860 And this was Alice Cooper headlined the show, which, you know, if there was like an 11, would have probably made it because this was also my first time seeing Alice Cooper, which was also freaking amazing. Hey, to bring it to you, George, Lemmy was pretty straight. Yeah, so was Dio. What are you talking about? But I was just like, it was just that moment, you know, when he came out and did love me forever, not at all. He was just. 02:48:44.180 --> 02:49:13.120 It was just, it was just, it was lemmy. It was like, this dude is a rock and roll warrior. I'm pretty sure he was straight, George. I don't care. And again, Will, pretty sure. Pretty sure. Maybe not that day. But yeah, so that was my number nine. Back to Dan for number eight. Nice. So this goes back to July 1992. Buddy and I, we decided, we saw, there's a festival. 02:49:13.220 --> 02:49:43.160 that was happening in the US. We saw who the headliner was, so we decided we got to go. Went to this festival, tons of great bands. It was a two-day thing. It was out in Milwaukee. The headliner that year was actually DS-side. Was it Milwaukee Metal Fest? Yeah. The Legion album just came out about two or three months before the show. We saw them on the Legion tour. Wait, wait. They headlined a giant metal festival 02:49:43.220 --> 02:50:11.540 on their debut album. No, it was their second album, dude. Second album, yeah. What was the first one? Self-titled. Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry. Yeah, yeah. Get with it, dude. Well, even still, Deicide headlining on their second album on a metal fest is pretty amazing. Yeah, the band before them was, I remember it was obituary right before them. So, yeah, it was crazy. It was a great fucking show. 02:50:13.180 --> 02:50:43.160 too much money that I could not afford at that time in my life, but I would do it again in a second. It was crazy. That's cool. I lived in Michigan and I never got to Milwaukee Metal Fest. You know, I've been to Maryland Death Fest one and a half times and I've lived like an hour away. I know. Memorial Day weekend. You can't. Why have any? No, we took. I think 02:50:43.180 --> 02:51:13.080 Yeah, it was a flight. Yeah, we took a it was a flight to Minneapolis and then transferred to Milwaukee. And then we actually couldn't even stay in Milwaukee because there was an Italian festival, I think was happening. So we actually stayed in Kenosha. And then we had to drive from Kenosha to the festival to I think I think it was about an hour and a half or so. Most of my relatives are in Racine, which is across. Okay. Yeah, for sure. All right, Mark is on. 02:51:14.460 --> 02:51:43.160 Yeah, number eight, I guarantee Jay will not have any remembrances to piggyback off this pick because he is the chemist. And I have picked chemist for number eight at Reggie's in Chicago on July 1st, 2018. This is when Desolation had just dropped and chemist did three special release shows for the album. One in LA, one in Denver, and one in my town of Chicago. So they played the album in its entire 02:51:43.220 --> 02:52:12.880 along with a few other songs from previous records. And they sold this limited edition Orange with Black Splatter, Destination LP that you can only get at those shows. I was right up front and they just, they killed it live. They were just so good. Probably the best they've been. I have seen them maybe five times. And I just really like when bands play that entire album because I'm an album guy. I'm not really like a gym mix dude. You know what I mean? So I like listening to a collection of songs that, 02:52:13.200 --> 02:52:43.040 a band makes specifically for a record because it's almost like a time capsule of where they are in their musical powers and abilities. Yeah. So hearing Desolation from front to back just was special to me. And at the very end of the show, Ben hands me his guitar pick because I was wearing a Glacial Tomb shirt and he thanked me for wearing that shirt. Nice. So very memorable show for me. Yeah. When I, when we saw them at Decibel, I, I only knew Dan and Zach. 02:52:43.200 --> 02:53:13.140 at that point. And I, uh, I bought like some shirts and a pin from, uh, Phil and Ben at the, at the merch booth. And they didn't know who I was. I was like, I know who you are. Anyway. You know, what's weird is I don't, I'm not even sure why, but my daughter says her favorite member of Kenneth's chemist is Ben. Okay. She's like, I like the way he looks. Well, he's kind of cute and cuddly, like a animal doll or something. 02:53:13.200 --> 02:53:42.760 and dug them up at Animal or something. They're all pretty sexy. We should let him know that. Maybe he'll put it as a description on his face. He's got that look. I mean, you know, when he wears a pair of mirrored sunglasses, fucker looks like Lemmy, man. Yeah, I get that. He does. Yeah. All right, Matt. All right, me. Number eight, 1999. My friend, our friend, Eric and I got a harebrained up our ass. I love Eric. 02:53:42.880 --> 02:54:11.900 I did to drive to Rome. Yeah, I did too. We decided to road trip to Rome, New York for Woodstock 99. And while we were there, we saw many performances. The one that stands out to me most is Rage Against the Machine. I was going to say Limp Bizkit. Yeah, Limp Bizkit. I remember that show because there was like bottles flying everywhere. Were they at that one? Yeah, they were at that one. Yeah, they had that one. That was like the whole break stuff. Yeah, yeah. Limp Bizkit. Matt, I was there. Limp Bizkit played before Rage Against the Machine. 02:54:12.000 --> 02:54:14.080 and Rage Against the Machine made them look like babies. 02:54:14.740 --> 02:54:15.400 Yeah, they did. 02:54:15.900 --> 02:54:20.980 I mean, all Limp Bizkit had going for them was like a water bottle fight with plastic bottles of earth. 02:54:21.400 --> 02:54:24.780 I would say, I mean, I totally, like Rage for me was the highlight. 02:54:24.900 --> 02:54:28.760 It was in between Evil Empire and Battle of Los Angeles. 02:54:29.080 --> 02:54:30.700 So you got all this stuff up to that. 02:54:30.760 --> 02:54:35.160 And then a couple of tracks off of Battle of Los Angeles, which we didn't, you know, nobody knew about at the time. 02:54:36.200 --> 02:54:40.240 The most metal thing after that would have been like Megadeth, but I thought they sounded fine. 02:54:40.400 --> 02:54:44.920 But it wasn't as spiritual as seeing Rage there. 02:54:46.440 --> 02:54:53.540 But the coolest part about it, well actually Will might not like this part, but Rage burned the American flag on stage. 02:54:54.320 --> 02:54:55.220 Which was crazy. 02:54:56.000 --> 02:54:57.700 It was really... 02:54:58.540 --> 02:55:00.540 Yeah, you're right. Go fuck them. 02:55:03.841 --> 02:55:06.920 There's nothing metal about burning the American fucking flag. 02:55:07.521 --> 02:55:08.460 I'm with that. 02:55:09.400 --> 02:55:39.340 I hate to do this to Matt again, but last time it was Tool and I was like Lollapalooza, Tool Undertow. Same fucking year, Lollapalooza, Rage Against the Machine first album. Right on. So I was not at Woodstock, but I will say this. It's been a while since I watched it, but I used to just watch it every once in a while. And that is the nine-inch nail set from that is fucking insane. 02:55:39.939 --> 02:56:09.200 If you guys have never seen it, it was like, it's so fucking crazy. Yes. Yeah. And that's when Nine Inch Nails was like dangerous. Yeah. Yeah. John. Yep. So, shockingly, this is the first time I saw all three of these bands or artists. They were on the same bill. It's a shameful moment for me to admit, although I had seen one of them. 02:56:09.420 --> 02:56:10.720 Previously in 1982. 02:56:12.601 --> 02:56:15.780 But it's still one of my favorite shows of all time. 02:56:17.540 --> 02:56:20.000 And it was, we all know where this is. 02:56:20.480 --> 02:56:34.080 I was at Star Lake in Pittsburgh to see opening Motorhead, middle band, Dio, headline, Iron Maiden. 02:56:34.880 --> 02:56:38.220 Wait, in 1982? 02:56:39.160 --> 02:57:08.400 No, no, no. I'm saying I saw one of them in 1982. Oh, I was going to say, because I saw that tour, the Maiden Dio Motorhead. I saw that here at Merriweather. I saw Dio with Black Sabbath. I never saw Dio solo. Okay. So surprisingly, this is the first time I saw all three bands. First time ever. It was at the same fucking show. That was a great tour. Oh, my God. It was a great tour. And I was like, you know what? They finally get it. We're going to get tours like this. And then it stopped. It was that tour, and then nobody did it again. 02:57:08.540 --> 02:57:38.200 And we had like, so it's a star like Burkittstown, whatever you want to call it, Post-Gazette, that's a different name. It's like. Yeah, Burkittstown is what I remember. Yeah, it's like. It's like Post-Gazette Pavilion. Yeah. It's like Nissan, but we had club seating, so we had like people bringing us drinks the whole time. And I'd never seen Maiden, shockingly, up until that time in 2003. And the opening song is my favorite song of theirs, which it's cliche, but they opened up with Number of the Beast on that tour. 02:57:38.540 --> 02:57:41.320 I was like you gotta be fucking kidding me and of course if 02:57:42.550 --> 02:57:46.280 go ahead that's think that's the tour they did rhyme of the ancient mariner I think they 02:57:46.580 --> 02:57:49.940 brought that that wasn't that one okay no because that was one of my favorite reasons but go ahead 02:57:50.240 --> 02:57:55.220 no the song they play which I haven't seen them play since and will knows how much I appreciate this song 02:57:55.600 --> 02:57:59.660 because I wish I had my boots on for it but they played die with their boots on at that show and I was just like 02:58:00.360 --> 02:58:03.941 I couldn't have asked for a better maiden show absolutely my favorite iron maiden song yeah 02:58:06.180 --> 02:58:33.720 And Dio and Motorhead were freaking awesome too on top of that. That's my number seven. All right, Will. Number eight, Crip Servant. When we saw them at Atlas Blue Works. That was a good show. White boots, that's all I'm going to say. Brooks, the lead singer, had white boots on. But it was a fun show because George and John were there. 02:58:34.020 --> 02:59:03.760 We got to interview the band for a little bit. And we kind of knew them from interviewing them. And I booked it. This was the Decibel show. Pre-fest. Decibel pre-show. The Decibel pre-show at Atlas before the Metal Beer Fest. Dan, you should really check this festival thing out. It's Decibel Magazine. You may like Decibel. I'm not sure. I heard one or two things about it. Yeah, yeah. I heard the beer's okay, too. It's just okay. Just okay. 02:59:03.820 --> 02:59:33.680 is not okay, but it's just their day. It's no Muslim Canadian, so. No, no, it's nothing like that. Dan Howell is your daughter? Right now, she is. She's like 14? No, she's going to go and she's actually going to be finishing high school next year if there is going to be a high school. She's 17. Yeah. So this is the weird thing. This is how time flies because one thing I know about Dan's daughter is she loves basketball like my daughter and they have the exact same birthday February 3rd. That's right. Yeah, that's right. 02:59:33.800 --> 02:59:34.220 Yeah. 02:59:35.640 --> 02:59:39.940 But yeah, well, I guess I knew she was like 12 or 13, but I guess it was probably like four years ago. 02:59:40.920 --> 02:59:41.040 Right. 02:59:43.200 --> 02:59:48.480 But yeah, Crip Sermon played Atlas and for the decibel pre show. 02:59:49.100 --> 02:59:56.700 And this is when they they previewed a lot of the new album that came out last year. 02:59:57.340 --> 02:59:59.520 And it was just it was an amazing show. 02:59:59.550 --> 03:00:00.220 It goes tight. 03:00:01.320 --> 03:00:29.820 We literally were the second venue audience to preview all the new songs. It was amazing. I loved it. That's awesome. That's all I got to say about that. Jay. Mine is Iron Maiden. I've seen Iron Maiden a bazillion times, as we all have, I think. My runner-up Iron Maiden showed, I was going to mention the tour where they trotted out. 03:00:31.340 --> 03:01:01.080 That gave me chills and tears to my eyes and all that shit. I saw that. It was so good. It was so good. I'm trying. It was like the Somewhere Back in Time tour or something like that. But it was the Power Slave set, you know, like whatever. But anyway, long story short, but that's not the one I'm going to call up to. You may remember a few years back, Maiden, for whatever fucking reason, ended up doing Oz Fest. And they were the Sharon Osbourne eggs year. Hey, Jay, the early years. Yes, that's right. 03:01:01.320 --> 03:01:31.260 The Early Years DVD came out, and so they came out and just did stuff up to Number of the Beast, I think, as a matter of fact. No, it's through peace of mind. Peace of mind. Thanks, John. But I mention it because I didn't plan on going because I think Ozzfest had kind of, by that point, it was like there was so much shit you had to sit through, and I've seen it made a million times, but somebody gave me tickets, so I was like, wait, I'll fucking go. So I go to the show, and the famous eggs incident was Los Angeles. This was up here in Mountain View, so it was the day before that show, or the show before that show. I don't know if it was the next day. 03:01:32.020 --> 03:02:01.080 And the kerfuffle had already started. So they were down in the area in front of the stage throwing fake money at Bruce. And this was like Kelly Osbourne and some other people because he was going on this corporate rant every time. And he just fucking belittled them and they went on and played the most angry fucking maiden show I've ever seen in my life, dude. It was just like it was not like any other time I saw them. They were just like, we're going to fucking play through this and we're just this is fucking adversity and fuck you. 03:02:01.320 --> 03:02:31.240 And Bruce did not let up on his rants. He was just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, throw your money at me, blah, blah, blah. And then it was the next day that got all the publicity because they actually threw eggs at him at the show. The fight started the day before because they were tired of Bruce's corporate rant. And it was awesome. They were just fucking balls out. Fuck Sharon, fuck Kelly. Yeah. And it was a great set too. As John mentioned, it was up through, I had forgotten, but up through Peace of Mind. But it was, yeah, that would be all the stuff that the early, 03:02:31.340 --> 03:02:35.480 which by the way a dvd if you don't own and haven't watched a thousand times you 03:02:35.600 --> 03:02:42.360 should yeah exactly which by the way has a large chunk of beast over hammersmith on it not all of it 03:02:42.880 --> 03:02:48.300 a large chunk i just listened to that beast over hammersmith i hadn't listened to it in a while but you 03:02:48.300 --> 03:02:55.660 guys keep bringing it up it's so good yeah it's so good it came out and bear in mind that was recorded 03:02:55.840 --> 03:03:00.401 like a week before number of the beast came out so people didn't really know what was going to happen 03:03:00.420 --> 03:03:30.020 Yeah, that's where he says we're going to play our new hit single, Run to the Hills, and literally like one guy claps. Georgie. My number eight. This was the first time I saw a little band from California called Metallica. This was their Injustice for All tour when they came to Detroit at Kobo Arena. 03:03:31.319 --> 03:03:32.120 And wow. 03:03:33.100 --> 03:03:33.420 Wow. 03:03:33.560 --> 03:03:34.640 You've been to Cobra arena. 03:03:34.660 --> 03:03:35.260 I never would have. 03:03:35.480 --> 03:03:36.040 Of course you have. 03:03:36.200 --> 03:03:36.860 Of course I have. 03:03:36.900 --> 03:03:37.640 It's Detroit dude. 03:03:38.040 --> 03:03:38.340 But I mean, 03:03:38.460 --> 03:03:38.800 that's a, 03:03:38.900 --> 03:03:41.220 I know that's the famous home of kiss alive one. 03:03:41.300 --> 03:03:41.540 Yeah. 03:03:41.680 --> 03:03:41.800 Yeah. 03:03:41.940 --> 03:03:42.000 Yeah. 03:03:42.260 --> 03:03:42.360 Yeah. 03:03:42.360 --> 03:03:43.400 It's not there anymore. 03:03:43.560 --> 03:03:44.160 They tore it down. 03:03:44.180 --> 03:03:44.640 I'm pretty sure. 03:03:44.640 --> 03:03:44.980 Is it gone? 03:03:45.240 --> 03:03:45.380 Yeah. 03:03:45.380 --> 03:03:45.760 I think so. 03:03:47.720 --> 03:03:48.120 But yeah, 03:03:48.520 --> 03:03:52.680 it was one of my early concerts and it was the justice tour, 03:03:53.280 --> 03:03:54.260 which was fucking amazing. 03:03:54.480 --> 03:03:57.380 And Queensryche was there and played awesomely as well, 03:03:57.780 --> 03:04:00.200 despite being totally ravaged by the crowd. 03:04:02.359 --> 03:04:29.840 And that was my first time in a completely insane pit. Because I was done on the floor for that. So, yeah. I find that happens to Queensryche a lot, though, on their tours. Right? Like, I saw, the first time I saw Queensryche, they opened up for ACDC. And that is such a mismatch. Yeah. You know? And they got destroyed here. I love them, but not the rest of Winnipeg. So, yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, this was the, this was the mind crime tour. 03:04:29.980 --> 03:04:59.960 This would be the non-evander-kane crowd, I understand. But it was like, this was mind crime, and they so deserved more than they got. You're right about that. They had extraordinary bad luck for a while with their matchups, and they were hard to match up anyway. This past summer, I went to what is called Rock Timber, and it's at a casino between Minneapolis and Deliveroo. 03:05:00.020 --> 03:05:28.060 And it's basically like 80s nostalgia bands. M3 for the further in the Midwest. Yeah. And Queensryche. I was like, why is Queensryche in the middle of all this? And I mean, they were amazing. They sounded amazing, but it was totally the whole time. I'm thinking like, you guys should be like on a regular tour, like playing at clubs or, you know, like in a barn or something like that. So yeah, they played a casino here too, actually on that same tour. So yeah, I think they've played a lot of casinos. 03:05:30.439 --> 03:05:59.700 I saw Molly Hatch in a bowling alley once and that's not a fucking that's a true story and I don't even think there was a poster episode they were playing they might have just been bowling right no people were still bowling insane all right back to Dan for number seven number seven it's it's another US trip honestly I do see shows in my own town but so this was I think this was my first time in Minneapolis and yeah 03:06:24.601 --> 03:06:29.260 Weezer played at First Avenue, and the blue album was gigantic at that time. 03:06:29.700 --> 03:06:59.280 Yeah. It was a good time for sure. I didn't expect that. Yeah. I'll tell you, those guys put on a show. Honestly, for a hardcore band, and there's a lot out there, of course, that are heavy, but sick of it all, I think their live performance is just... Sick? There you go. You can't ask for a better description than sick, right? So, no, I absolutely love them. So fucking heavy. 03:06:59.720 --> 03:07:29.680 And just they really know how to work the crowd too. So it was a good time. I don't think there is a hardcore band out there that I really listen to at all religiously except for Sick of All. I will pick up every single one of their albums. I just love them. When Blood, Sweat, No Tears came out and it was my introduction to, oh my god, they have a song that's 13. This is around the same time as S.O.D. and all that stuff where it's like, wow, they have a song that's 03:07:29.700 --> 03:07:57.200 13 seconds long. Like, it's like, what the fuck is this? And it was just, but it was good music. And I just loved it. And I fell in love with it. And I remember being art class in high school and dudes I knew in high school and art class who were like, check this shit out. And I'm like, wow. Yeah. I covered it all. And I've seen them so many times. And when I saw them in Bogota, it was like mind blowing to me. Yeah, for sure. All right, Markisan. 03:07:58.920 --> 03:08:28.360 Number seven for me is the band Slough Feg. I saw them at the Alehorn of Power 3 Festival at the Double Door in Chicago on August 9th, 2008, just a couple of days after my birthday. I went to this show with my metalhead friends from college. They made the trip from central New York to see me and go to the show. And I believe it's the only time they ever came out to Chicago. So it was really amazing to get together with them, have some beers, 03:08:28.920 --> 03:08:58.720 some cool metal. The show had a pretty good lineup. I had Pharaoh, Icarus Witch, Bible of the Devil was there. And the headliner in the one I really wanted to see, Trouble. Oh, wow. Corey Clark on vocals. I believe he had just joined the band after Eric Wagner had quit the band. It was like months after or something. So the main draw for me was Trouble, but I was really into Slough at that time too, especially the earlier album. 03:08:58.900 --> 03:09:28.660 like Twilight of the Idols, Down Among the Dead Men, Traveler. Traveler, fuck yeah. But Atavism was cool too and that was the tour you saw. That's a good record. Yeah. And that's the... So Joel's from Chicago, right? Uh-huh. Yeah, but Corey Clark is Warrior of Soul, right? I believe so. I think so, yeah. Yeah. So yeah, so Slough Feg also happened to be my friend Garrett's favorite band at that time and he was one of the guys that made the trip. 03:09:28.900 --> 03:09:58.860 We were really excited to see them play. And I just had no clue that they were going to steal the show like they did. And I don't know if it was because my friends were there with me or and they just brought or they just brought it at the show. But it was pretty special there. There's the riffs were really fucking bombastic. The energy was like on a super high level. I just loved every second of it. And I also thinking back on these shows, a double door was like one of my favorite places to go see. 03:09:58.900 --> 03:10:28.660 and metal shows. And they actually had to close their doors a few years ago because of gentrification in that area of Chicago. So, and there was like a big legal fight and everything and they lost and they were supposed to move to a different area and never did. So that's another reason why that the show with Slough Feg stood out. But also because I just, I'm not really a huge Slough Feg fan now. I think we talked about the album that came out last year and we're just not that fond of it. You know, it's the early, early years that I liked, but, 03:10:28.900 --> 03:10:32.200 I'll always be really fond of this particular performance. 03:10:32.680 --> 03:10:37.240 But I've seen them a million times because they're from San Francisco and they bring in every time. 03:10:37.500 --> 03:10:38.320 They're always like that. 03:10:38.560 --> 03:10:44.200 And also I used to work at the reserve book room in San Francisco State University before I had my current job. 03:10:44.380 --> 03:10:48.440 And Mike was going, Mike Scalzi was going to school for a philosophy degree at that time. 03:10:48.440 --> 03:10:49.440 He teaches philosophy now. 03:10:49.680 --> 03:10:51.540 And so he's always coming to get reserves. 03:10:53.000 --> 03:10:54.420 I bothered the shit out of him. 03:10:54.420 --> 03:10:56.680 I had to ask him all these questions about traveler and stuff. 03:10:57.700 --> 03:11:27.460 And I'm sure he was like, dude, fucking serious. But at first it was just like, wait, what? You know my band? And I was like, yeah, I fucking know your band, dude. Dude, just give me the fucking book I want. So he was trying to do his homework in a bar. Yeah. And I'd see him again, you know, even though I'm not into their albums as much now, I mean, I'm sure they still put on killer performances. He's getting kind of weird, actually. The last time I saw him, they took this big section in the middle of it, and I'm not making this up. And he went and literally changed clothes and put on a jacket. 03:11:27.700 --> 03:11:57.140 and came out and sang Frank Sinatra songs. I'm not making this up. Mike's a weird dude. And then he went back and then they finished the Slough Hague set. They were all out there together the whole time. But he's an odd guy and he's an artist. So you might not like what they're doing now. I don't know if he's still doing this Frank Sinatra thing, but I'm not making that up. It was so strange. And their new records kind of lean in this weird way. I like how several times tonight we said like, oh, he's just fucking weird. He does this weird shit. He's an artist. 03:11:57.280 --> 03:12:27.260 I kind of liked the new album. Artists are just fucking weird fucking people. I bought the new album. No, no, no. I didn't dislike it, but like I thought they kind of peaked with Traveler and Atavism and then, you know. He's really into vintage sounds too, so he can't use anything newer than a 1968 Marshall Plexian. That's fine, but that limits their sound somewhat. Right. All right, Matt. All right, my number seven and number six are fairly 03:12:27.280 --> 03:12:56.660 The description is fairly identical, and you'll understand why once I get to my number six. George, I double dare you to lullapalooza me on this. But it was 2010, and it was my first time going to Europe. It was my first time going to Valken. It was my first time seeing this band. Other than that, the band is Rod in Christ. I saw them on the wet stage, which back then the wet stage was by itself. It's an indoor stage at Valken. They have three main, 03:12:57.300 --> 03:13:25.860 Like I said, I knew nothing of Rod and Christ whatsoever. And I saw them play and it was the, I want to say it was the Aelo tour, however that's pronounced. And they totally blew my mind. Well, I actually, I saw them on Lollapalooza for the Triarchy of Lost Lover. God damn it. Kidding, kidding, totally kidding. Son of a bitch. That was one of, that was, by the way, coronavirus. 03:13:27.739 --> 03:13:57.200 What do you call it? Casualty here. They were just about to play here in the next couple of weeks. Right. Yeah. No, I haven't seen them, but I would love to. And after this, after I saw them, I kind of went back and kind of immersed myself in their previous, you know, catalog, obviously. But yeah, Hassan booked them at Atlas, but had to cancel it. Yeah. I was looking forward to that show because I think we all, well, you liked the last record, didn't you? Well, quite a bit, I think. And then the last Ryan Christ, I loved it. Yeah. And the one before that, I really dug. Not that they weren't doing fine. 03:13:59.240 --> 03:14:26.500 I'll do this real quick uh still at Burkittstown and Post Gazette Pavilion near Pittsburgh this was 2008 this was never one of those super tours heaven and hell had a letterhead testament but the set that I liked the most was Judas Priest where they pulled out a bunch of stuff I never thought I'd ever see them play like hell patrol between the anvil and the hammer 03:14:27.300 --> 03:14:55.800 A Song for Will, Rock, Hard, Ride Free. And of course, Dissident Aggressor. Just a great set. And a lot of non-traditional songs in the set. They just sounded great. What year was that, John? 2008. I did see that tour, but I saw it here in Virginia. I had the good fortune to see that tour too. And my claim to fame from that tour is, not my claim to fame, but I saw them at Mountain View, John. 03:14:57.280 --> 03:15:27.220 This weird thing. Okay, so I was in the seats, and then outside of the seats, there's this little just slightly raised concrete thing that goes along. It's the thing you walk down. It's next to the stairs you walk down to get to your seats. And Ronnie James Dio during their set came out, got on that little raised thing, and walked all the way up to my row seats. And I walked over and shook his fucking hand. That's awesome. And nobody was going near him. I was just like, he's there. Let's go fucking talk to him or whatever. And he was saying, saying the whole way up. I went over, shook his hand, and then everybody came over. 03:15:27.300 --> 03:15:57.240 and they went back down. So I got to shake the hand of the man. It's fucking rad. You shook Ronnie James Dio a hand. I shook Ronnie James Dio's hand. That is awesome. It is, dude. I will never forget that. And he just walked right up to my row. Jay, I will let you cut raw flesh off my elbow any time now with that hand. Just think, hey, hand job. You would have done that before the story. No, I know. But now it'll feel like Dio's doing it. 03:15:57.320 --> 03:16:27.120 Yeah, exactly. Wendy deal. We'll charge you some money for that. You'll have a hologram of deal in the room with you. Well, you're going to see a pattern here for the next two after this one. But my number seven, inter Arma at Atlas, February 2019. I'm pretty sure some of you guys were out there. This was the benefit show. 03:16:27.280 --> 03:16:56.600 for the local DC band, Ilsa. They were out touring out in Portland, Oregon, I think. Had their van broken into. All the shit was stolen. And so all these local, when I say local, Richmond is two hours away. Three. Well, three from you, fuckface. I'm sorry. Georgie Poo. No, no, no. I know, Will. That's Mr. Fuckface to you. That's just 95. 03:16:57.280 --> 03:17:27.200 95 South Traffic in general. Just split the difference and call them fucky poo. Yeah. Hey, fucky poo. No, but Inner Arm, like I'm a huge Inner Arm fan, as you guys know. And they, I do get super excited when there are huge, to me, to me, underground huge bands that play my venue. And when Inner Arm played for the first time, it was a charity concert for Ilsa because I got, 03:17:27.280 --> 03:17:29.700 they brought it. 03:17:29.860 --> 03:17:30.460 And like, 03:17:31.090 --> 03:17:31.620 Inner Arma, 03:17:32.020 --> 03:17:32.120 Dan, 03:17:32.130 --> 03:17:33.940 I'm sorry you did not get to see them recently, 03:17:34.260 --> 03:17:36.000 but just think of, 03:17:36.080 --> 03:17:38.120 just think of how heavy their albums are. 03:17:39.100 --> 03:17:43.100 Toss out all like the interlude shit that you don't need to listen to. 03:17:43.570 --> 03:17:45.220 And just listen to like the heavy, 03:17:45.560 --> 03:17:45.980 brutal shit. 03:17:46.080 --> 03:17:47.280 Like think of Yob. 03:17:48.979 --> 03:17:49.860 Slightly heavier. 03:17:50.100 --> 03:17:50.180 No, 03:17:50.580 --> 03:17:50.660 no, 03:17:51.160 --> 03:17:51.260 not, 03:17:51.390 --> 03:17:52.120 I shouldn't say Yob. 03:17:52.240 --> 03:17:52.640 No bullshit. 03:17:53.440 --> 03:17:53.500 Yeah. 03:17:53.500 --> 03:18:22.900 I get it though. Yeah. Yeah. Like don't think of their albums and they're going to play the album. They're going to cut out all the bullshit and it's just going to be heavy as fuck. It was awesome. Yeah. That's it. Just think of the greatest thing you've ever heard. And it's them. Yeah. They're amazing laughing. The greatest thing I've ever heard, but I'll never get to see in person. Yeah. Yeah. Well, at least not for the next year. You know, double it and add 10. I believe it's double it and add 30, Matt. You're skimming off the top there, buddy. 03:18:26.339 --> 03:18:53.440 I won't waste too much of your time then, especially since every single person here was present, with the exception of our good friend Dan, and that is InterArma at the pre-show at Decibel was just off the charts, man. It was so good, and at that time, I don't think Soul for English was out. It had just come out. Or was it? In any case, it seems to me they played more. 03:18:53.520 --> 03:19:23.480 I don't think it was out I think it was about to come out yeah but I did get it they were selling it and I bought it from them and they signed my copy and I think Matt or somebody else got a copy and we chased around and got them all to sign them and then you cut pieces of Will off but it was so good you guys were there so I don't have to tell you about it but it was just one of those sets where and I know they may bring it every time but it was like the right night and also we were all just seeing each other again after a long time we walk in see this amazing show I think I I walked 03:19:23.540 --> 03:19:53.220 I just came up and hugged Matt for the first time. Like the first time I ever met Matt in person was at that set. Yes. Yes, indeed. And we all. Well, I think I bought all you beers. You bought a lot of beers. You were fucked up. But it was so great. But it was just it was a wonderful performance. And it was so heavy. It's just like one of those things where you just take the paint off the wall. It was so heavy, you know. Yeah. All right. My number seven. 03:19:55.120 --> 03:19:56.100 Type O Negative. 03:19:57.260 --> 03:19:58.100 Oh, shit. 03:19:58.550 --> 03:20:00.180 The Bloody Kisses Tour. 03:20:00.560 --> 03:20:01.180 Oh, man. 03:20:01.720 --> 03:20:01.980 Gosh. 03:20:03.040 --> 03:20:04.520 They played the Capitol Theater. 03:20:04.820 --> 03:20:04.960 Oh, shit. 03:20:05.330 --> 03:20:05.740 Oh, man. 03:20:05.860 --> 03:20:08.000 They played the Capitol Theater in Flint, Michigan. 03:20:08.600 --> 03:20:09.420 Fuck me. 03:20:09.560 --> 03:20:11.680 But they didn't even play in the theater. 03:20:12.580 --> 03:20:14.500 They played the fucking lobby. 03:20:15.700 --> 03:20:19.580 I got to this show and I was like, wait, why are we still in the lobby? 03:20:20.580 --> 03:20:50.200 It's because Life of Agony opened, which was also fucking amazing. And then, typo negative, in the fucking lobby. So they're like right next to the fucking popcorn stand. You know, it's like going to a movie theater and seeing them playing in the lobby of the movie theater. It's a perfect story for me to go get more scotch or something. And, I mean, you know, obviously, Bloody Kisses was an amazing album. And, you know, 03:20:50.580 --> 03:20:53.260 My quote from this is obviously 03:20:53.940 --> 03:20:55.980 Black No. 1 was the big song from this tour 03:20:56.780 --> 03:20:57.400 and this album. 03:20:58.360 --> 03:21:00.000 And Pete comes on and goes 03:21:00.560 --> 03:21:02.760 yeah so for this song 03:21:02.940 --> 03:21:04.820 I wrote four notes and I made 03:21:04.820 --> 03:21:06.720 a million dollars. Next time 03:21:06.740 --> 03:21:07.640 I'm gonna write eight. 03:21:12.100 --> 03:21:12.940 And holy 03:21:13.040 --> 03:21:14.360 shit was it an amazing set. 03:21:15.559 --> 03:21:16.780 So number 7. 03:21:16.780 --> 03:21:17.300 That's great. 03:21:18.740 --> 03:21:48.700 I never got to see those guys though ever saying yeah they've never made their way here though so all right well Dan number six uh number six uh I think it was the first yeah it was the first time I ever saw them so napalm death on uh utopia banished tour nice um yeah with uh brutal truth opening so extreme conditions just came out I actually saw brutal truth 03:21:49.499 --> 03:22:16.920 I think it was I guess probably about four months no I don't know more like eight months prior to because they were also at that Milwaukee Metal Fest show where I saw Deicide as well but the album the album wasn't out yet so I only knew that Danny was in the band I didn't know anybody else in the band and it was funny at that time I didn't think too much of them but when they played in Winnipeg they were ripping but for me it was all about Napalm Death because I was a pretty huge fan 03:22:17.960 --> 03:22:46.680 I started off with Harmony Corruption. It kind of made my way backwards. But really loved Utopia Banished, just how over the top it was. At least for me it was back at the time. Yeah, it was a great show. Do you like Scum? You know what? I do. I like it for what it is. How's that? All right. I mean, I'm a huge Napalm Death fan, but I really don't like Scum. I really like the first two albums. 03:22:48.439 --> 03:23:16.100 I'm a big fan of From Enslavement. I like the Mentally Murdered EP a lot as well. The way I kind of look at it, if there was no scum, right, you wouldn't have, you know, the code is red along with the code, et cetera. I mean, I get it. I just don't listen to it. Yeah, no, fair enough. You know what? I'm not putting on scum on a daily basis by any means. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right now, right now, time waits for No Slave. 03:23:16.940 --> 03:23:18.880 is my fucking jam. 03:23:19.700 --> 03:23:19.760 Yeah. 03:23:20.420 --> 03:23:20.560 Yeah. 03:23:21.200 --> 03:23:21.260 Yeah. 03:23:21.420 --> 03:23:23.720 Napalm's been on a fucking streak lately for sure. 03:23:24.400 --> 03:23:26.860 The latest single, I like it. 03:23:26.960 --> 03:23:33.800 It's a little bit odd, I would say, compared to what they've done in the last 10 years, really, I would say. 03:23:34.000 --> 03:23:34.960 But you know what? 03:23:35.600 --> 03:23:38.000 Still going to listen to the new one whenever it comes out. 03:23:38.280 --> 03:23:39.840 And yeah, looking forward to it. 03:23:39.960 --> 03:23:40.060 Yeah. 03:23:40.300 --> 03:23:40.960 Hopefully this year. 03:23:40.970 --> 03:23:45.960 I mean, it's been rumored to be ready, but with things being what they are, who knows? 03:23:46.860 --> 03:23:48.780 I was really looking forward to them at the 03:23:48.820 --> 03:23:49.300 Decibel Festival. 03:23:49.760 --> 03:23:50.860 Yes, I was too. 03:23:51.380 --> 03:23:52.420 Who knows if they're going to be 03:23:53.359 --> 03:23:54.300 the new date. 03:23:54.840 --> 03:23:55.120 Whenever. 03:23:55.520 --> 03:23:56.880 I mean, it's probably not going to be this year. 03:23:57.880 --> 03:23:58.880 Despite what we've heard, 03:23:59.020 --> 03:24:00.160 it's probably not going to be this year. 03:24:00.660 --> 03:24:01.820 I was in the restroom, 03:24:01.940 --> 03:24:02.340 so I missed that. 03:24:02.440 --> 03:24:03.080 Who was it? 03:24:03.340 --> 03:24:03.820 Napalm Death. 03:24:04.400 --> 03:24:04.840 Oh, yeah. 03:24:05.080 --> 03:24:06.100 I know that record will come out, 03:24:06.320 --> 03:24:07.280 I think, this year. 03:24:08.540 --> 03:24:09.300 I have no reason, 03:24:09.640 --> 03:24:10.420 nothing to base that on, 03:24:10.540 --> 03:24:11.180 but that's just what I was saying. 03:24:12.260 --> 03:24:13.000 Well, all right. 03:24:14.980 --> 03:24:16.420 I just got off the phone with God. 03:24:22.021 --> 03:24:46.200 That and Carcass will come out. Mark is on. My number six is the band Pelican at the Bottom Lounge in Chicago on October 23rd, 2010. This was the band's special 10-year anniversary show. And Pelican was the first Chicago band I started seeing when I moved to the city in 2000. That's when they debuted. So it was super nice. 03:24:46.440 --> 03:24:47.500 to do that just for me. 03:24:49.800 --> 03:24:52.520 Some say Pelican't. You say Pelican't. 03:24:52.780 --> 03:24:53.340 I do. 03:24:54.920 --> 03:24:58.320 Yeah, I almost consider them like my hometown team. 03:24:58.550 --> 03:25:03.380 You know, like if you have a sports team, Pelican's like my hometown band for Chicago. 03:25:04.160 --> 03:25:06.420 So they put on a great performance that night. 03:25:06.690 --> 03:25:12.500 I remember I was at the show with my friend the captain, and we got there really early so we could drink beers 03:25:12.500 --> 03:25:42.480 because they put out this doppelbach beer from three floyds called the creeper which is named for one of their songs from their 2009 album what we all come to need and it's fucking an amazing beer i love doppelbachs you don't see them that often but i read that the band asked three floyds to make that doppelbach because it was the that kind of beer was the only one that all four members ever agreed on because they all like to spot an op and op and optimator oh i'm getting all drunk was that word right is that was the 03:25:48.180 --> 03:26:11.740 So yeah, it was really great. I mean, I've seen Pelican, I don't know, probably like 20 times or something. And they're all in different locations now, but everybody just considers them Chicago bet. So great show. All right, Matt. All right. Are we on seven, six, six, six. So six is, as I said, six is very similar to my number seven. 03:26:12.500 --> 03:26:42.460 Except I will say, with the whole going to Europe for the first time, going to Valken for the first time, not sleeping super well, I experienced a lot of anxiety. And so it was seeing Rotten Christ. It was seeing this band that kind of was like, kind of brought me back to normal. This band is Soulstaffir. Again, I knew nothing of them. I don't listen to them as much as I do. I don't listen to them as much now as I did back then. But seeing them was like nothing short of spirit. 03:26:43.579 --> 03:27:12.460 Yeah, I love those guys. Yeah, they're great live. Perfect. Theatrical. They're theatrical. Yeah. My friend manages them. Oh, shit. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Well, then why don't you give us your number six, too? Here's a side note. Yes, sir. You're no better than me. Yeah. My number six. I don't think anyone has seen this guy. 03:27:12.500 --> 03:27:13.540 I soloed before, 03:27:14.260 --> 03:27:17.560 but I got the chance in 2011 at Prague power. 03:27:18.740 --> 03:27:23.120 And it was by sheer luck because the spot was originally held by our tourists, 03:27:23.640 --> 03:27:28.040 but they flaked on the festival because they said they couldn't practice and get ready. 03:27:28.260 --> 03:27:31.580 And instead they played a show this roughly the same time in Norway. 03:27:32.540 --> 03:27:33.140 So fuck them. 03:27:34.460 --> 03:27:35.900 But it was to my benefit. 03:27:36.100 --> 03:27:39.220 I got to see Eson and his first ever solo show in the U S. 03:27:39.460 --> 03:27:39.580 Oh, 03:27:39.980 --> 03:27:40.120 fuck. 03:27:40.120 --> 03:27:40.260 Yeah. 03:27:40.500 --> 03:27:41.680 It was just 03:27:42.420 --> 03:27:44.500 It's the most intense show I've ever seen in my life 03:27:45.159 --> 03:27:46.880 And to Will's dismay 03:27:47.340 --> 03:27:48.760 Leprous was his backup band 03:27:48.980 --> 03:27:51.200 Because the lead singer of Leprous is his brother-in-law 03:27:51.720 --> 03:27:52.740 They were an amazing band 03:27:53.150 --> 03:27:54.580 It was unreal 03:27:54.670 --> 03:27:56.760 It was probably the gateway drug for 03:27:57.160 --> 03:27:58.540 Prog power for harsh vocals 03:27:58.940 --> 03:28:00.200 Which I was already into obviously 03:28:00.460 --> 03:28:01.620 But a lot of people weren't 03:28:02.200 --> 03:28:02.980 And they saw Eson 03:28:02.990 --> 03:28:04.980 And he converted a lot of people to 03:28:05.350 --> 03:28:06.140 More extreme metal 03:28:06.500 --> 03:28:07.720 Because it was for the first three albums 03:28:08.380 --> 03:28:09.960 And a few Emperor songs 03:28:09.960 --> 03:28:39.420 It was awesome. Fuck yeah. Yeah. Really good. I like this brevity thing we're doing here too. This is really working. Yeah. So then we'll call it brevity. We don't do brevity on here, but we'll do something like it. Will. Sorry, I'm eating peanut butter crackers. You can't talk when you're eating peanut butter crackers, dude. Don't you know that? I know, but it's almost one o'clock in the morning right now. I know. 03:28:39.980 --> 03:29:09.940 It's going to be an all-nighter. Yeah. My number six, Temple of Void at Atlas in July 2018. Holy shit. Like, we are privileged, I feel sometimes on this podcast, where... There you fucking are. Where, whether we meet our heroes or we just befriend our heroes, but there's a couple bands like Temple of Void 03:29:09.960 --> 03:29:39.820 which I just absolutely adore. I fucking love them. And somehow we've befriended them. I was a tour guide when they came to Washington, D.C. I spent the entire day with them taking them to the. Dan, you may appreciate this or Matt, have you ever seen the night of the museum movies? Yes, I have. That was me. I took the Temple of Voy guys to the to the Natural History Museum. And I'm like driving them around. 03:29:39.980 --> 03:30:09.940 the van and stuff and being the tour guide and taking them to the exorcist steps and all this shit like we got a lot we got a lot to see guys that really needed to keep together keep up there guys come on yeah yeah stop writing the songs and keep moving yeah um anyway it was just but when they play atlas on it was i remember it was just fucking hot as balls deep in a squirrel's ass and in south carolina hot and um george you know what i'm talking about and um 03:30:09.980 --> 03:30:39.940 Because of the squirrel thing? Yeah, yeah, man. It's about the only thing I can fit in. But anyway, when they played Alice, it was amazing. It was a great show. Yeah, it was amazing. I loved it. All right. Mine is somewhat similar to John's pick, but a whole tour previous in a different band from that tour. And it was, you know, I grew up loving the Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, but also 03:30:39.960 --> 03:31:09.720 I was also living in Black Sabbath, Theo era, and was convinced I would never experience it on any level in a live setting, especially since Black Sabbath did the reunion and all that stuff. But sure enough, around came heaven and hell, and that just came out of nowhere to me. I didn't know that was going to happen. And, you know, fucking probably stayed up all night just to be there at 10 a.m. to buy tickets on my computer. You know what I mean? I was that excited. And if I remember right, it was like Megadeth? Yep. Machine Head, maybe? Yeah. Possibly Suicidal Tendencies? 03:31:09.960 --> 03:31:39.940 Not here, but... Okay, that was something else. I like how George was like, yeah. No, and I saw The Heaven and Hell and Megadeth, and I think it was Machine Head, yeah. Machine Head, yeah. It was more of your enthusiasm. No, no, it was just that I was just remembering, because I was there too. But I don't really care about Machine Head that much. I have a record I like, or a few things. And Megadeth is Megadeth. Machine Head kind of sucks. We can all admit it. Yeah, fair enough. And Megadeth, though, is Megadeth, but I didn't even care about it. 03:31:39.980 --> 03:31:45.520 It was like one of those things where I'm like sitting through Megadeth to get to the thing I can't see. 03:31:45.520 --> 03:31:47.600 Yeah, it was so weird, but it was a good set. 03:31:48.460 --> 03:31:50.720 Yeah, it was fine. It was fine. Serviceable, let's call it that. 03:31:51.190 --> 03:31:52.900 But then it was just everything I hoped it would be. 03:31:52.970 --> 03:31:59.340 They came out and just did stuff from those two fucking records and just fucking changed the fucking world, man. 03:31:59.470 --> 03:32:01.540 It was so fucking good. 03:32:01.670 --> 03:32:03.480 And this was before the record came out and everything. 03:32:03.610 --> 03:32:05.320 They didn't know they were going to do a record at this point. 03:32:05.880 --> 03:32:08.860 I was just so pleased to have the chance and it was everything I wanted it to be. 03:32:09.280 --> 03:32:39.080 You guys know, you guys all went. I'm sure you all went to the first tour too. Yep. Yeah, it was awesome. Awesome. So I think I have the first repeat here for number six. Finally a repeat, and that is Inter Arma at Decibel 2019. That set, I'm sorry, Dan, but that set blew my fucking mind. Yeah. I mean, that's probably one of the only, 03:32:39.280 --> 03:33:08.360 Like, okay, well, there's a couple more. Actually, most of them are more recent. But in terms of, like, the last decade, that is one of the obviously best sets I've seen. It was fucking amazing. That's crazy. And I got to see Will Bleed. I just hope James is listening. Yeah. And it was the fucking pre-show. Yeah. Yes, actually. Very good point. Very good point, Jay. Yeah, that blew my mind. And then I got to see them again in January of this year. 03:33:09.480 --> 03:33:39.100 Obviously, I knew what I was in for, so it wasn't quite as stimulating, but it was still really fucking good. Is after that show when we went on a boat and recorded? Yes. Yes. The bloody, bloody will, white leather couch boat. Chicks on the boat. Wait, wait, we're recording. Wait, we're recording. But I actually, can I just add to, and this is worth saying, it was everything everybody says it was, but it was also, we were all there together too. That was the other cool part. Yes. 03:33:39.280 --> 03:33:41.100 Yeah, that we got to see such a killer, Seth. 03:33:41.380 --> 03:33:41.480 Yeah. 03:33:41.540 --> 03:33:43.060 Which we did not get to do this year. 03:33:43.800 --> 03:33:46.360 Marcus, I do not think you were there, right? 03:33:46.580 --> 03:33:46.860 Yeah, you were. 03:33:46.940 --> 03:33:48.500 I was not at the pre-show or on the boat. 03:33:48.820 --> 03:33:49.280 Oh, yeah. 03:33:49.360 --> 03:33:49.780 Right, right. 03:33:49.900 --> 03:33:51.040 But you were there the next. 03:33:51.360 --> 03:33:51.440 Yeah. 03:33:52.260 --> 03:33:52.660 That's right. 03:33:52.700 --> 03:33:56.380 I literally, it was at that pre-show where I think I hugged Matt for the first time. 03:33:56.440 --> 03:33:58.560 I saw Matt in person for the first time. 03:33:58.600 --> 03:33:58.900 You did. 03:33:59.760 --> 03:34:00.320 It was deep. 03:34:01.140 --> 03:34:01.600 Excuse me. 03:34:01.740 --> 03:34:03.120 I think I was balls deep in your ass. 03:34:03.980 --> 03:34:33.080 Can I just say that the casual mustache, Matt, and a hoodie with slangs shooting out from behind him is the most metal thing I'm saying. I'm kind of like a combination of secret and really, and maybe the unibar. It looks like the world's most confusing call and show. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, Matt, I'm having a problem with my lawnmower. You know what I mean? It's kind of like Kelly. It's so bad. Come on in. I did take a screenshot of that a couple of times. 03:34:35.239 --> 03:35:03.540 The best part is like you're just like your knee kind of. It's the casual style. Yeah, you're just like, what's up? Exactly. Right now, when you put your arm over it, and depending upon the shadow, it looks like the world's biggest penis. Why are you saying that I'm right here? I'm right here. I'm not in there with him. No, no, but you're not the center square, George. Sorry. But also, can I just say, well, second biggest. 03:35:07.720 --> 03:35:31.940 Are we measuring in metrics or Imperial? We really have to ask Dan. Let's go back around to Dan. Number five. Again, I swear to God, I do see all whoever you want to swear to, but I do see shows in Winnipeg. But again, this one's in St. Paul now, July 2018. Yob at the Turf Club in St. Paul. 03:35:33.960 --> 03:36:03.500 I think that was the one show where I think where I tried to alert one of you guys like I'm pretty sure that that of Northern Darkness was at that show with you Dan. I think it was I think it was a little bit afterwards though that I finally realized because I remember Matt was on the show but it just didn't click to me that that I could actually reach out to him at that time. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was Bell Witch and former worlds. Yeah. 03:36:03.600 --> 03:36:33.220 Yeah, right on. But then did you, there was a, I think they played it like the final, Yob played it like the final line or something that you're going to maybe. A year later. Yeah. Yeah. You went to that one. I did. Yeah. I had to be a dad that night. Um, because I remember you reached out to me and I was like, God, I would have known it was that easy. Yeah. Cause I think it was them, Voivod and Amon Ra. And I can't remember if there was anybody else, but yeah. Yeah. Matt, I love how you say that it's that easy. That dude just drove six fucking hours. 03:36:33.580 --> 03:37:03.220 Sorry, let me rephrase that. It's not that easy. It's so easy for me to see you. I can take a lift. Anyways, that was, yeah, I mean, that was a long time coming for me. So that show meant a ton to me, seeing them at the Turf Club there. So yeah. That was an awesome show. Yeah. Markisan. Yeah. I mean, I just like to point out if we didn't have George's whims and fancies, we would have been done with this section already. What? 03:37:03.600 --> 03:37:33.540 The Second Part. Me? Oh, because I wanted Ted. Gotcha. All right. My number five is... Sleep is overrated, motherfucker. Well, I mean, for me, it's early. Yeah. For the rest of you. Iron Maiden is my number five. The Book of Souls tour at the Hollywood Casino Appa Theater in Timley Park. You said Book of Souls, and it was not in a negative way. I love you. Yeah, but it had the word tour after it, so that changes it a little bit. Yeah. It's 2017. I died a little bit. 03:37:34.560 --> 03:38:03.560 I like Book of Souls goddammit. Oh my god. Me too. That's like up there. It is not. I listened to it again the other day. Garbage piece of shit. I listened to it again the other day just to know it is good. Yeah, I like it. Well, continue on. This is the only time I've ever seen Maiden actually live. And I was blown away by the performances, the energy of those old guys, and just the craziness of the sets, the theatricality of it. I mean, obviously I know Maiden's live show 03:38:03.580 --> 03:38:33.460 because I've seen many videos. I've listened to the albums, but I guess I wasn't really prepared for the scale of the show and just the feeling I got from being around thousands of other Maiden fans. Just singing the songs, throwing up the horns. It was just crazy. I drove about an hour and change to get to the suburbs to go to the show. And it was a huge outdoor arena and I was by myself, but the people there were really nice. It felt like a good community at the show. But I'll never forget. 03:38:33.600 --> 03:39:03.460 The guy next to me was a complete redneck. And he started chatting with me and he ended up showing me photos of him and his Asian neighbor just so he could demonstrate to me that he liked some people of color. And in half the photos, there was like a Confederate flag. That's not surprising. Not only was I surprised by how amazing Maiden was, but that day I also found out that Maiden makes it okay. 03:39:03.580 --> 03:39:33.560 for rednecks and brown people to hang on. Oh my god. Yeah. Hey, but you know, just off, you know, how cool was that last main tour, though? We haven't really talked about it that much, but I mean, that fucking set was amazing. The airplane. Yeah, the Aces High thing. It may have been amazing for you, but when we saw it, it sucked. It did not. It did. Oh my god, the vocal, like they had some. They had trouble. No, no, no, no. Yeah, I mean, okay, so Bruce forgot to come 03:39:33.580 --> 03:40:03.500 to sing Die With Your Boots On, but on the whole, it was a decent set. Oh my God. Like, do I need to? Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. But yeah. Yeah. It sucked. No, it was. You can say it sucked. There's a couple of times. I have never seen Maiden and it sucked. Never. This was my fault. Who's next? John. Matt. Matt. Number five. I feel like every time I've seen this band has been my favorite. So I will go with the first time I saw that. 03:40:03.580 --> 03:40:33.280 It was at a place in St. Paul called Station 4 and the band is Cannibal Corpse. They were on tour with 1349, Skeleton Witch and Letras Nocturne. I mean, it had been a band I'd listened to for years and just had never gotten around to see them. And I saw them and I'm pretty sure I cried most of the time. I got a good parking spot. I love that dude. I remember those too. I was next to the tub of beer and the girl gave me a piece of ice. 03:40:33.580 --> 03:41:03.540 because it was so hot and I got a sinus infection later on and I was in love with her at the time and I was happy to have a sinus infection because of that but it was an amazing night awesome dude I still remember my parking spot from the when the behemoth came around played the Satanist on the decimal tour it's a huge part of my night I was right right across the street man on the street it was beautiful the one time I yeah go ahead George the one time I saw cannibal corpse was at Jack 03:41:03.560 --> 03:41:33.180 and it was the most violent pit or possibly second most violent pit. Slayer on that divine intervention tour that I mentioned earlier was also an extremely violent pit. But Cannibal Corpse at Jack's was so violent that they broke the fucking guardrail and they had to stop the show to fix it. Fuck yeah. I'm pretty sure I was at that show and I have a I have a picture of me with a giant I mean like literally giant shiner. 03:41:33.560 --> 03:42:03.360 from being in that pit. It was a fucking great show. Yeah. Just the shiner in the shape of a guardrail. They were they stopped it because they were worried people were going to get impaled on the thing because they ripped it off. So, yeah. The risks we take. Okay, now. Now it's John. Yeah. Well, that's really interesting. You should talk about violent pits because my number five had a violent pit also. 03:42:03.560 --> 03:42:33.540 The craziest pit I've ever seen. It was a show at Rams Head in Baltimore. And George and Will will understand this. This is when they still had the guardrail, you know, down the side, in the front, where it was pretty much a safety hazard if it got really crowded. And it was crowded this night. And Flames was the headline. I didn't care about them. I left for them. But the first band was 36 Crazy Fists. And it was always like a little hipster kids that thought they were 03:42:33.580 --> 03:43:03.540 Cool, pushing and shoving. John, I think I was at the show with you. No, this was the next tour. Oh, goddammit. But you might have been at the show. You ruined my moment. Then the next band came out and the whole fucking place blew up to the point where people were getting smashed against this guardrail. But this wasn't at the front. This was in the back. Gojira. On there, it was the Way of the Flesh tour. I've never seen a pit break out like it did a 03:43:03.600 --> 03:43:31.580 Especially, Darren, when they played the heaviest matter in the universe. It was just intense. Are you sure? I'm pretty sure this is the show that we met. No, that was Devin Townsend and Gojira. No, that was when you guys did it in the front. This is when he did it in the back. Oh, that's every show. But it just was the most intense pit I've ever seen. This is before they kind of got a little bigger. It was awesome. 03:43:33.560 --> 03:44:02.600 Nice. All right. Well, we're on number five. Yelp. Slayer. Final Tour 2019. Oh, yeah. I mean, how can you possibly fuck with Slayer when they do their final tour and they play their entire catalog? I mean, you just. And Tom just stands there and looks at you. Right. And what it was awesome about is I saw that twice. 03:44:03.560 --> 03:44:32.700 I saw him once at Meriwether up in Maryland and I guess the other time was at Burkittsville or something. Burkittsville? Not Burkittsville. Burkittsville is in Pittsburgh. Bristow, Virginia. But you do like it's one of those things like Jay may be one of the only people who kind of loves Slayer the way I do. 03:44:33.560 --> 03:45:02.480 When you just see your favorite band ever and they're just like, this is their final tour. And when you see Tom, Araya, the front man, just like standing on there. And I saw this twice. Just staring at you. Just staring at you. Yeah. Like just soaking it in. And I do not think it was like some sort of weird publicity stunt. Like he literally just wanted to like every single fucking show. He's just going to stare at you. Yeah. 03:45:02.520 --> 03:45:32.280 He was moving. He was bringing his memories. He was trying to take all those memories with him. I saw that tour twice too. I also saw it twice in the Repentless tour and the last four times I saw Slayer, they were fucking amazing. I have to say that the first time, I saw the first time with Gary Holt and it sucked. I remember this, it was my birthday and somehow I got a hall pass. I'm like, I'm going to go see Slayer on my fucking birthday. 03:45:32.680 --> 03:46:02.480 I mean it was probably like 2016 or so whatever it was he was with him for like 10 years so yeah it was one of the first it was one of the first so it may have been way earlier than that but it was one of the first shows that he ever played with them it kind of sucked I have to admit like Slayer sucked he could not live up to Jeff Hanneman but the second time I saw that saw Gary Holt with Slayer it was it was amazing like it was just like we saw him at the film more with him yeah yeah yeah 03:46:02.520 --> 03:46:32.360 Yeah, it was. It was at the Fillmore when I saw Slayer with Gary Hole. And it kind of sucked. Like, it was not, he could not keep up. Like, he, it was clearly they needed more time to rehearse or something. Anyway. But the last Slayer show, it was amazing. Very emotional, you know. I saw him in Chicago at Riot Fest. And I love when everybody, and they did this for like 15 minutes. Thank you, Slayer, that baseball clap. 03:46:33.040 --> 03:47:02.480 You know? Yeah. Thank you Slayer. Like for 15 minutes they did this thing. Yeah. It was really crazy and it was the biggest pit I've ever been in. It was like the entire like third of the front row was like this pit. It was awesome. That was an amazing tour. My very first time seeing Slayer I went with my friends Sammy and Noble. Sammy is a female. Noble and I got up in the shit. This was at the orbit room in 03:47:02.500 --> 03:47:30.860 in Kalamazoo, Michigan. So we already know this is a lie because you had no girls hung out. No. Well, she was there because her boyfriend was there and I was friends with her boyfriend. So Noble and I were there. Okay, now we get the story. It's the Orbit Room in Kalamazoo, small venue, fucking insane. And the show ends, Noble and I go back to the back of the room to find her and she is in tears because she thinks we are fucking dead because this pit was so insane. 03:47:34.339 --> 03:48:02.480 We laughed at her, but you know. All right, I'm moving us on. Mine was another thing I never thought I would see actualized, and I kind of didn't in a weird sort of way, but I did see all three members of this band in the same year, so that sort of counts. And that is Venom Incorporated came and did a tour a couple years ago, a few years ago, where they just came out, and it was Mantis and Abaddon from Venom, and then Tony 03:48:02.520 --> 03:48:04.600 who was the one who originally replaced Cronus. 03:48:05.180 --> 03:48:07.920 And they came and just did shit off a black metal and welcome to hell. 03:48:08.080 --> 03:48:11.200 And it was fucking groundbreaking and shaking and fuck. 03:48:11.260 --> 03:48:12.700 It was so fucking good. 03:48:12.820 --> 03:48:14.200 Cause he kind of sounds like Cronus too. 03:48:15.080 --> 03:48:15.300 Um, 03:48:15.600 --> 03:48:17.080 and then I got to meet him after the show. 03:48:17.760 --> 03:48:20.920 I was a huge venom fan as a kid still am. 03:48:21.020 --> 03:48:23.760 I never thought I would see those guys play that music in any way, 03:48:23.840 --> 03:48:24.460 shape or form. 03:48:25.140 --> 03:48:25.960 So the fact that that, 03:48:26.000 --> 03:48:27.620 that came to pass was amazing. 03:48:27.880 --> 03:48:32.180 And then as luck would have it late or that summer of that same year, 03:48:32.400 --> 03:49:02.120 was MDF and the Cronus fronted Venom played. So I saw Cronus anyway. I would still take the Venom Incorporated show even though Cronus is kind of my favorite member. But it was fucking brilliant. And it was another one of those things where I didn't think I'd ever get to see it. And then everybody just left afterwards and they were outside in their cheap ass little camper bus and spent 10, 15 minutes talking to us. And I still can't believe I met those fucking guys. I still can't believe it. 03:49:02.400 --> 03:49:30.800 I mean, of all people, Venom, how the fuck did I meet those guys? Jesus. Yeah, really? And the show was amazing. All right. My number five may or may not have been mentioned. It's been so fucking long, I don't remember. Trypticon at MDF. Actually, I think I'm thinking of that because it was mentioned by the Temple of Void guys last episode. 03:49:31.800 --> 03:50:01.360 But yeah, Tripticon at MDF. That was my first time seeing Tom anywhere. It was daylight still because it was like middle of the fucking day at MDF. But I was just, you know, I mean, we were like up front on the stage and, you know. Yeah, it was fucking amazing. And it blew me away. So yeah, it was an amazing set. Vano. Number four. 03:50:02.220 --> 03:50:31.100 We're getting there. So back in 2006, so again, this is probably at least 20 years of waiting for a band to finally show up in my city. So Celtic Frost or Celtic Frost, whatever you want to prefer. They played a small club here actually with 1349 and Sog and it was probably, yeah, I mean, again, 20 years of waiting to see them or longer, whatever it was. 03:50:31.160 --> 03:50:37.160 Yeah, it was the Monotheos tour. 03:50:37.610 --> 03:50:38.120 It was, yeah. 03:50:39.520 --> 03:50:45.300 But when I saw him on that tour, it wasn't Sog, it was Son O, and I would much rather have seen Sog, dude. I love Sog. 03:50:45.780 --> 03:50:45.900 Yeah. 03:50:47.420 --> 03:50:48.780 I was probably disappointed at the time. 03:50:49.699 --> 03:50:51.740 Sog's debut album, actually. That's right. 03:50:51.850 --> 03:50:53.820 Which is a great fucking record, too. 03:50:54.030 --> 03:50:56.780 Yeah, I remember seeing, oh, what's his name there? 03:50:56.870 --> 03:50:59.500 The guy that was in, he was in Gorgoroth, too, right? 03:50:59.700 --> 03:51:00.920 What's his name? King, I guess? 03:51:00.960 --> 03:51:30.940 Yeah, I can't remember his name either, but that's where they all came from. Yeah, six foot six tall blonde guy. I remember, yeah, you really stood out, though, yeah. Yeah, King. That is King. Yeah. Moving on down the line. It's me. 2015 at the United Center in Chicago. June 12th. Rush. This is the only time I've ever seen Rush play live. It's all thanks to 03:51:30.980 --> 03:52:00.940 My friend Brian, he knew I was a big Rush fan. He bought us tickets just because he wanted to experience the band live together. I had shied away from big stadium shows because I always thought the sound would be bad and there's just too many people. I just like smaller venues, but I loved the show. It was just really cool to see such virtuoso performers play the songs I loved since I was a kid, even up in the bleachers, you know? So the highlights for me, they played a Cygnus X1, Xanadu from 03:52:00.980 --> 03:52:30.940 Farewell to Kings just mentioned before it's like me and John's our favorite album from Rush so cheers to Brian for taking me to see Rush I won't ever forget that it was a great gift and especially now that Neil's gone so nice great show all right Matt I my number four 2017 this is probably not this band's you know best performance in my town but because it was my first time seeing them in my town 03:52:30.960 --> 03:53:00.500 I saw them at Valken in 2010, but I was about four miles away. I think what made the show even more cool was that I had seven friends that wanted to go with and you could only buy four tickets at a time. And so my wife joined the Iron Maiden fan club so I could buy the other four tickets. So I could buy four and she bought four. But it was Iron Maiden on the Book of Souls tour. And yeah, it was awesome. I mean, we just, we hit, it was at the Excel Energy Center. 03:53:03.179 --> 03:53:30.540 We took a lift down to St. Paul and had some beers and hit the show. I mean, I couldn't have asked for a better time. Indeed. Anytime with Maiden is good. Yeah, exactly. Despite what Will says. All right, John. My number four, George, was with me for this show. I never thought in a million years 03:53:31.261 --> 03:54:00.540 I get to see this. And Marcus, I mentioned this earlier. This was a show where a whole album was played. It was down all the way in Georgia at Prague Power. Fate's Warning, the Awaken the Garden shows. Awaken the Garden. Awaken the Guardian, excuse me. I'm tired. I've been up since five. Just never thought I'd get to see that whole album, let alone see everyone from the 03:54:00.580 --> 03:54:22.000 that album played on it there so it was a lot of fun it was amazing and we are in the album artwork we are and we were there for the recorded show that they released and the dvd it it was it was a lot of fun yeah awesome i'd love to see that it was amazing all right uh well 03:54:23.900 --> 03:54:51.100 And you know why now why the end of the episode is get like a complete shit show. It is. It's only 1 15 in the morning. Yeah. Fucking been drinking and shit. My number four. Are we on number four? Yeah. Yeah. Chemists at Maryland Death Fest 2018. Yeah. That was. 03:54:52.060 --> 03:54:57.960 It was a little game-changing for me. I saw them the year earlier at 03:55:00.100 --> 03:55:01.620 Decimal Metal Beer Fest. 03:55:02.680 --> 03:55:06.160 But what was super, super, super special to me 03:55:07.020 --> 03:55:13.080 at this 2018 MDF Fest is that they all had Atlas beer in cans. 03:55:15.181 --> 03:55:19.200 They were cheering each other and then they played that set. 03:55:19.600 --> 03:55:21.500 Yeah. And it was an amazing set. 03:55:21.520 --> 03:55:49.680 Yeah, but I have to say it was at MD, not MDF, it was at Maryland Death Fest, not Maryland. Shit, fuck. It's in Maryland at Death Fest. Yeah, sorry. Sorry, it was at Philly Death Fest the year earlier where the chemists really, they made it for me. Anyway, it's fucking, it's 1.16 in the morning. Fuck. 03:55:51.500 --> 03:56:20.800 And then you saw them at Maryland Death Fest in Baltimore. And that was what clinched it. But the Maryland Death Fest in Philly was just amazing. It was. Jago. Maryland Death Fest in Philly. I don't know. Whatever. In Baltimore, dude. I will say again, for any listeners, it's 1.17 in the morning right now where we are. Because George wanted you a top 10. I know. Fuck me. Fuck you, George. 03:56:21.520 --> 03:56:50.420 Fuck me. Fuck me. So mine is, it's unfortunate John's not here, which is perfectly fine. John had to get him to use the restroom because he's the one who would most appreciate this. But when ISIS Oceanic came out, I became a huge and immediate fan of that band. And there was a sudden announcement of a show and they were going to open for Mogwai, who's a band I don't give a fuck about. 03:56:51.520 --> 03:57:20.420 at the Fillmore in San Francisco. So I went down and they announced it like two days before because I didn't know they were going to be on the bill. They got added to the bill. I went down to the Fillmore that night of the show, stayed for ISIS, left afterwards to hang out with ISIS a little bit, meet them all outside, and then went the fuck home. Didn't watch a minute of Mogwai and ISIS was fucking off the charts. It was oceanic period. Fucking killed it. 03:57:20.500 --> 03:57:50.360 It was so fucking good. Such a great album. Yeah. And it was just totally worth going and just fucking leaving. I was, there was people in the crowd were like, what? Yeah. They want to talk, you know, people like to shoot the breeze. It's like, no, I was here to see ISIS and they're like, who the fuck are they? Yeah. Yeah. It was great. Epic. Right on. My number four is a show that probably should have never fucking happened, but because of the way things were, 03:57:50.520 --> 03:58:17.760 with metal. Ronnie James Dio played the Wrecker Theater in Towson, Maryland. Wow. I hate that place. And I'm sending a picture of right now of the Wrecker Theater. And you can, if you look at this, you can see how fucking small this place is. It is, it is probably smaller than the Fillmore and Silver Spring. And I think this was like the Killing the Dragon tour. 03:58:19.960 --> 03:58:49.560 And it was a very, very intimate show with Ronnie James Dio. You know, I was extremely close to the man. I was like, damn, this dude's small. He's small. He's a very small guy. Was a very small guy. But it was, it was just one of those shows where you're like, holy shit, I am seeing history here right up close in this teeny venue. You do not get to see this. I mean, after this show was the, 03:58:49.940 --> 03:59:19.780 The Iron Maiden Motorhead Dio Tour was after this. Yeah, it was this, let's call it his low as far as popularity is concerned, but yeah, it's just a great time to catch somebody, frankly. And, you know, and he did a lot of like talking intimately between songs and it was just like, holy crap, that's Dio. Holy shit. And it's very small. I just looked at the picture. Wow. Yeah, it's crazy. It is an extremely small place. Just to be clear, that is absolutely not a picture. 03:59:19.840 --> 03:59:47.540 that was taken at the deal. No, but that is the size of the venue. I mean, it is smaller than the Fillmore in Silver Spring, which John and Will, who just put his headphones back in, would know about. So, yeah, it's amazing to see him in something like that. You're right. It's amazing. Exactly. All right. Back to number three for Dan. 03:59:49.840 --> 04:00:18.440 Yeah. So December 3rd, 1984, the World Slavery Tour made its way through the city there. Oh, no. Got to see Iron Maiden with Twisted Sister opening. Oh, my God. Oh, that is such a boner for that. And that was the Stay Hungry Tour. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. You rock. Yeah. I remember the next day in school, I swear to God, like 20, no, more like 20, 04:00:18.740 --> 04:00:48.660 70% of the school had power slave shirts on. Oh my God. So yeah. My, my town, there would have been like one, maybe one. Yeah. Wow. That's awesome. Maiden is definitely represented the most on these lists. Yeah. Yeah. So far. All right. Mark is on. Number three for me, I'm going all the way back to 1996 at the Lost Horizon in Syracuse, New York, November 30th. And it's the Deftone. 04:00:49.979 --> 04:01:18.700 This band seems to be coming a lot lately. I don't know why on the cast, but they're one of my all-time favorite bands and the show was insane. They played the Lost Horizon, which is infamous for being this dive bar show venue to see metal and hardcore and other music in Syracuse. It had this giant pit in it in front of the stage. It's deeper than a regular pit. So it's almost impossible for anybody to actually climb up onto the stage if they wanted to. And they had these giant speakers that came down from the floor all the way to the ceiling. It was really 04:01:18.760 --> 04:01:48.700 really weird setup crazy so in 96 deftones only had one album out there's adrenaline and that's super heavy and the band went balls out playing this thing the chino was climbing the speakers the band was tearing up like swirling around crashing into shit they just wrecked all their guitars at the end of the show the crowd was like in a complete frenzy i've never seen anything like this show it was super high octane and uh the the bands that came on before also have 04:01:48.720 --> 04:01:50.700 kind of whipped the whole crowd into a frenzy. 04:01:51.260 --> 04:01:54.660 But the cool thing too about this is that I had just turned 21 that year. 04:01:55.440 --> 04:01:59.120 So I could get into bars, get hammered and see metal at the same time. 04:01:59.740 --> 04:02:01.760 So it was the most intense show I've ever seen. 04:02:01.760 --> 04:02:03.720 I don't think I'll ever see a more intense show. 04:02:04.460 --> 04:02:06.860 And first time, basically I could go out and drink. 04:02:07.360 --> 04:02:08.660 Nice. Awesome. 04:02:10.100 --> 04:02:10.280 Matt. 04:02:11.280 --> 04:02:11.480 All right. 04:02:11.500 --> 04:02:12.240 My number three. 04:02:12.660 --> 04:02:17.660 If I look at all the bands I've seen live, this band would be at the top of the list. 04:02:19.100 --> 04:02:46.760 And while all their shows have been amazing, this is kind of the one to me that stands out the most. 2018, I saw Slayer on their farewell tour, actually twice, but I will take the one that was in Minnesota. Yeah, I mean, just to watch them play like every classic song they have, along with, you know, Anthrax and Behemoth and Testament. Yeah, it was awesome. I bet. Awesome. 04:02:48.859 --> 04:02:49.340 John. 04:02:50.380 --> 04:02:50.620 All right. 04:02:50.980 --> 04:02:52.300 My number three is a repeat. 04:02:52.800 --> 04:02:54.660 Literally same venue, 04:02:55.000 --> 04:02:55.420 same city, 04:02:56.000 --> 04:02:57.460 same band as my last pick, 04:02:58.100 --> 04:02:58.740 but different year. 04:02:59.640 --> 04:03:03.640 So it would have been fate's warning at Prague power in Atlanta in 2009. 04:03:05.220 --> 04:03:06.240 I just like this set. 04:03:06.740 --> 04:03:07.140 It just, 04:03:07.360 --> 04:03:08.860 it's probably if all the times I've seen them, 04:03:08.940 --> 04:03:09.640 I've seen them a lot. 04:03:09.940 --> 04:03:11.140 It's probably my favorite set. 04:03:12.040 --> 04:03:14.960 The highlight of the fact is they encored with the ivory gated dreams, 04:03:15.240 --> 04:03:16.760 which is like 22 minutes long. 04:03:16.820 --> 04:03:46.760 I thought that was just awesome way to finish up the show. It's one of my favorite songs by them. And that's it. Nice. I've already mentioned them. No more to mention. Will, I want you to know, because you always give me crap about it, well, you don't give me crap about it, but that we've gone so long here that we've actually crept into my drinking time finally. Jay is finally drinking on an episode. It's 10 o'clock. That's about the time they get cracked open over here. It's 1.30 here. 04:03:46.800 --> 04:04:16.300 Yeah. All right. Well, 1024. Yeah. Yeah. I actually want to go get a little bit of a refill, but I want to I'm going to wait until after my turn. So we'll go. My number three, suicidal tendencies at the Trocadero in Philadelphia, September 1990. They were on tour with Exodus and Pantera. Fuck it. Exus. Fuck Pantera. Holy fucking shit. Suicidal tendencies. I mean, they came out with like, you can't bring me down. You can't. 04:04:16.360 --> 04:04:20.100 Worn Inside My Head. 04:04:20.800 --> 04:04:21.740 Possessed State. 04:04:24.340 --> 04:04:26.400 Just at the Chocodero of Philadelphia, 04:04:27.340 --> 04:04:28.240 Suicidal Tendencies, 04:04:28.460 --> 04:04:31.540 the first four or five songs they came out with 04:04:31.820 --> 04:04:33.780 was absolutely amazing. 04:04:34.120 --> 04:04:34.980 I've never seen them. 04:04:34.980 --> 04:04:35.860 I wish I could see them. 04:04:36.840 --> 04:04:38.740 Well, I mean. 04:04:40.180 --> 04:04:40.860 I saw them not long ago. 04:04:40.860 --> 04:04:41.500 They were fucking great. 04:04:41.540 --> 04:04:42.320 I've seen them twice, actually. 04:04:43.760 --> 04:04:45.180 I've been listening to them a lot lately. 04:04:45.620 --> 04:05:15.560 The How Will I Laugh Tomorrow album's been on my playlist a lot. Awesome. I put the first one on recently. All right, my number three is the first time I saw Opeth. It was the Deliverance Tour. I literally paid for a friend of mine to fly out here to see them with me to know anything about them. I was like, do you trust me? This is going to be amazing. It's their first American tour where they headlined, as John could probably tell you. So they had been here briefly with Nevermore for Blackwater Park. I saw them in a fucking death trap that, and this was shortly after the station fight. 04:05:16.679 --> 04:05:44.080 And it was so fucking hot. It raised the tension. And everybody there was an opeth devotee without question. They were like, I can't believe this band's coming to town. And it was off the charts. Fucking amazing. So good. Probably the best time I've ever seen them. Was it opeth? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So that was awesome. That's what you get for me. Nice. My number three, one of you is there. 04:05:45.640 --> 04:06:15.200 It's the first time I met you. No, that's not the last time I met you. But it was in a field in Germany. And one of the greatest shows I've ever seen. I cried at this show along with Chris. And this was Emperor at Wacken 2017. Holy fucking shit, that was amazing. And Matt was there. Yeah, it was. And Eric, of course, and Chris. 04:06:16.400 --> 04:06:45.600 Sweet. Yep. Damn. Let's get through this. All right. Number two. We're getting there. We're getting there. Yeah. Just like almost everything else on my list. Just waiting a lifetime to see these people. So for me, it was seeing Dio with Heaven and Hell. Oh, yeah. March 18th, 2007. So, yeah. It's fucking great. Yeah. Sweet. Markson. Number two for me was 04:06:45.640 --> 04:07:15.020 at the filmar in Philadelphia. Last year, April 14th, and it is Enslaved. The show represents a lot of firsts for me. First time attending the Decibel, Metal, and Beer Festival. First time meeting all of you guys in person. First time seeing Enslaved play live. First and only time I'm likely ever to see Enslaved play Frost in its entirety. First time I ever met the band after getting a sneak peek at their documentary. There was a lot of great sets. 04:07:15.640 --> 04:07:44.680 Bands at Decibel. But for all those reasons, and the fact that they just put on a hell of a show playing Frost in its entirety made it just the best for me. And it was also first for my cousin, Sandy, who came to the show because he lives in Philly. He's not a metalhead at all, but he was curious to just experience metal. And one of the highlights for him was Enslaved, because after the set, I remember him coming up to me and asking if I could send him the Enslaved albums. 04:07:45.040 --> 04:07:48.140 So my favorite, 04:07:48.320 --> 04:07:49.540 that was my favorite at decibel. 04:07:53.200 --> 04:07:53.420 All right. 04:07:53.600 --> 04:07:55.320 My number two is also from decibel. 04:07:56.220 --> 04:07:57.080 A different band though. 04:07:57.860 --> 04:07:59.960 I'd been waiting a long time to see this band. 04:08:00.860 --> 04:08:01.140 In fact, 04:08:01.380 --> 04:08:04.300 the previous summer I'd been at a wedding for my wife's friend, 04:08:05.040 --> 04:08:05.440 California. 04:08:06.260 --> 04:08:07.240 They knew nothing of metal. 04:08:07.560 --> 04:08:08.380 They knew I loved metal. 04:08:08.540 --> 04:08:08.880 They're like, 04:08:08.940 --> 04:08:09.060 Hey, 04:08:09.660 --> 04:08:11.920 what band is a band you've never seen live? 04:08:12.580 --> 04:08:12.940 And I said, 04:08:13.000 --> 04:08:13.680 what it was. 04:08:13.760 --> 04:08:43.740 And I thought, you know what? I have no idea when this is going to happen, but then it happened in Philly. And that is Trypticon. They totally blew my mind. I've been wanting to see Tom live for years, and I had the chance to see him twice in one year, and once was a Trypticon in Philly. With all of us! That's right. Absolutely. John, my number two. So I think yesterday I said that this was the most 04:08:43.780 --> 04:09:12.420 I've ever saw, but a day has passed since then. Cause that was a while ago and I'm changing my mind. This is the most intense show I've, I've ever seen. And George is with me again for this. And it was the second time this band had ever played in the United States. And now they're blowing up all over the world, but not a lot of people knew them and they absolutely destroyed MDF. Aranti Pazuzu. 04:09:15.459 --> 04:09:42.280 In 2017, I forgot how intense that was when I mentioned Eson, and I have to scale that back. This was the most intense show I've ever seen. They put on just an amazing show. I had friends who came up to me afterwards who had never seen them or knew who they were. We're like, I got to buy everything. This is the most crazy thing I've ever seen in my life. They were outstanding. It was a great show. And Jeff got beer dumped on him. Twice. 04:09:43.760 --> 04:10:12.560 Next Friday they're doing the live stream, eh? Yeah. They're doing the full new album, I believe. A whole new album, yeah. Which, by the way, our good friend Warren and I saw them last year and they played half the new album. I had no idea they were playing it because I was like, I don't know these songs, what's going on here? It was the new album. I wanted to go to that. You saw them with Horrendous, right, John? Yeah, Horrendous. Fuck. Will. 04:10:14.280 --> 04:10:43.260 We got number one or number two? Two. Two. Metallica, July 29th, 1989 at the Allentown Fairgrounds. This is, to me, their last concert before they fucking sucked. Why? What happened after that? I don't know. They released an album. They got haircuts. Yeah. 04:10:43.760 --> 04:11:13.060 No, they didn't get haircuts yet. They still had hair for that album. It wasn't so low that they cut their hair. What was nice about this is that I did find out that you can find this album, or sorry, this show on YouTube. Oh, I love that. I love it when you can see a show you're at. Yeah, like, shit, I was at the show. It's not quite the angle that I was watching them at, but holy fucking shit, like, yeah, I was there. You're part of the noise. 04:11:13.340 --> 04:11:19.460 The first time I wanted to see Metallica 04:11:20.140 --> 04:11:23.160 was on the Master of Puppets tour opening for Ozzy 04:11:23.620 --> 04:11:28.440 with Cliff Burton in Detroit, in Michigan in 1986. 04:11:29.720 --> 04:11:30.880 That's a nice story, George. 04:11:31.040 --> 04:11:32.520 And my parents wouldn't let me go. 04:11:33.460 --> 04:11:34.560 No, I wanted to go. 04:11:34.800 --> 04:11:35.480 They wouldn't let me go. 04:11:37.639 --> 04:11:40.400 But the video is on YouTube, so I watched it. 04:11:41.960 --> 04:11:43.240 All right, I'm going to move you along here. 04:11:43.460 --> 04:11:45.260 Yeah, so sorry. 04:11:45.600 --> 04:11:50.040 Sorry, George that lied to us and gave a bunch of bullshit about the Black Album. 04:11:50.240 --> 04:11:51.700 But what are you talking about? 04:11:54.060 --> 04:11:55.400 All right, I'm at my number two. 04:11:55.600 --> 04:11:58.940 And thankfully, I can be kind of brief because we can get to our number ones. 04:11:59.100 --> 04:12:02.660 And I can be brief because it's already been mentioned by somebody here, at least the tour. 04:12:03.520 --> 04:12:07.840 And I have to give a shout out to John BT, who I know is thinking, Jay, you better mention this show. 04:12:08.060 --> 04:12:09.600 And I am going to because it was fucking amazing. 04:12:09.800 --> 04:12:38.200 It was Gojira on the Way of All Flesh tour. You're right, John. They really weren't big yet. It was their first headlining tour in America, period. They played Slims here, God rest his soul. And just came out and just destroyed the fucking place. You know, they were so glad to be headlining and filling a place. And it was fucking amazing. They were so fucking good. And they don't play with that level of energy anymore. This was like youthful fucking... Picker. 04:12:39.780 --> 04:13:09.460 just go out there and fucking kill. So it was great. Yeah. Nice. Awesome. Great tour. My number two has also been mentioned by John because John was there and so was TR. You know what I'm talking about, motherfucker. That would be Fate's Warning. Awaken the Guardian in its entirety at Prague Power. Yes. Yes. And yes. This was my number one briefly, but it got bumped down. But so fucking good. I mean, 04:13:10.439 --> 04:13:38.740 I never thought to see them with John Arch. I never would have guessed that I could see this album. Or John Arch at all. Yeah. And when they announced this, I was like, dude, dude, dude, dude. And I was like, I got to get tickets for this. I don't go to Pride Power like John does, but I was there. It was fucking awesome. And you got to experience that venue, which is kind of cool. Yes, it was a very cool venue. And my brother literally works right across the street from me. Oh, I didn't know that. 04:13:39.780 --> 04:14:09.160 All right, this is the one that matters. We got here, boys. It's a long fucking trial, but let's do this. Number one. Be done with this fucking shit. Number one. So December 13th, 1986, about three months after Cliff passed, I got to see Metallica play on the Master of Puppets tour. Not a big venue. It was probably about 1,200 seats. It was sold out. And it was today, that's still the best thing that I've ever seen. 04:14:09.280 --> 04:14:38.660 I was right up front. I was right against the stage for the entire show. And yeah, that was life changing. Yeah. So there you go. That's a good claim to fame. That's a good one. Wow. That's a long time ago too. Yeah. My number one, coming back to 98 at the Main Street Armory in Rochester, New York, September 2nd. Slayer. This is part of the Diabolus. 04:14:39.340 --> 04:15:09.000 or the fear factory. And I went to it with my metalhead buddies from college, which is where I really got into heavy music. It's my first ever road trip to see a band play and my first time seeing Slayer play. And we traveled a couple of hours from Muspego State to go to the concert. And it was in this weird, like gymnasian setup inside an old army facility for that used to be for training soldiers. There was a ton of energy that night. I was right up front and rocked the pit for most of it. 04:15:10.260 --> 04:15:38.700 People were just incensed. Like, they're just crazy. And then after Slayer finished their set, a fight actually broke out. And I stepped in to break it up. And one of the guys in the scuffle got in my face. So I just dropped him in the straight right. And because everybody was like running out, I was like, fuck, I can't leave this guy here. He's like, he's gonna get trampled. So I actually had to help him over to the wall so he wouldn't get trampled before we jetted out of there. You're like, here, die here, man. Gotta go. 04:15:40.779 --> 04:16:08.680 So in college I was known as the jackhammer and this is one of the many exploits I am known for under that nickname. And it's funny because that Slayers last show that we kind of mentioned, I was at Riot Fest for that, I also broke up a fight in the pit, but I did not have to throw my mitts in that one. So. Evolution. Nice. Britt killed a guy. That reminds me of something that I have to. I have to interject. 04:16:12.320 --> 04:16:38.800 The second time I saw Manowar, the first and only time that I saw Rhapsody and interviewed Rhapsody on their tour bus, which was like probably the very first band interview I did. It was horrible. Never got published. Was it Sonar in Baltimore? It was Manowar and Rhapsody. And I was at this show and there was this 04:16:40.059 --> 04:17:07.600 who was like drunk and being an asshole to people. And there was this other guy at the show that I, I knew from seeing at other shows. And this dickhead guy was like being a dickhead. And the guy that I knew turned around and gave him a good fucking shove. Cause he was in his face. And the dude like just planked, fell down and cracked his head open on the fucking like concrete. 04:17:08.820 --> 04:17:38.600 To this day, I have no idea if he's alive. Like the show stopped. The police came. The fucking paramedics came. The dude was like out cold, bleeding and pissed himself on the floor. And I have no idea if the guy lived or died. Fucking metal, bro. Fucking metal. Wow. Matt. Matt. All right. My number one. I did not think this was ever going to be my number one, but it is my number one. 04:17:39.239 --> 04:18:08.780 2009. I've referenced this show before, Jay, I feel like you were at it as well. It was at the Fine Line here in Minneapolis. The band is Mastodon, and they were on the Crack the Sky tour. And they played Crack the Sky in its entirety with the movie in the background. And then they came out and they played like 12 or 13 more songs off of their three previous albums. And I've never seen such a show. I mean, I'm exhausted just talking about it. 04:18:08.840 --> 04:18:38.560 which is just a fraction of how exhausted I was from just watching it. I mean, you know, I mean, they completely blew my mind in the fact that they could sit there and just output this like, you know, song after song after song. And it's like, I still feel like my balls are a little bit swollen to this day from how hard I got hit in the crotch from that. So they are. They were at the height of their powers, man. Yeah, absolutely. The height of their powers. And I'd seen them a few times before. And as we have talked about this and yeah, I fucking, 04:18:38.820 --> 04:19:08.500 That's a great memory. I wondered if that was going to be on your list because you've spoken of it with Reverence previously. Yeah. On that tour was there with Kylisa and Intronaut. Not that that's super important, but. That same tour came through Winnipeg as well. So, yeah. Right, yeah. They did it a couple times too and then, yeah. They did the, I think later they did the Death Clock tour. They did the same thing minus all the extra songs. Yeah, they just played Crack Sky, yeah. I haven't seen Intronaut, but I bet they were pretty good live. Yeah. 04:19:11.459 --> 04:19:38.780 I haven't mentioned these guys yet, but eventually they'd have to show up on my list. It's no surprise. It's Opeth. It was at the House of Blues in Chicago in 2006 for the Chronology Tour where they basically came out and played a song from each album, but they did it starting at the very beginning of their career and ended at Ghost Reveries. They played for what seemed like two and a half hours. It was awesome, except for the dude who kept yelling. 04:19:39.580 --> 04:20:08.180 Played Black Rose Immortal for two and a half hours. John, I was at the show. Yeah. And it's just the guy wouldn't shut the fuck up the whole time. And the nice thing was, is I had VIP seats for it. I was sitting in the, they have the, at that House of Blues, they had these like box seats up top and I was sitting side stage. So I had all monitor sound for the whole show. It was awesome. So it was very cool. Let's see if we can get a hold of Will. 04:20:08.840 --> 04:20:38.600 Will. Will. Will, it is time for number one. Number one, you made it. We're still here. This should be good. Okay, Will, this is going to be a surprise to you, but you're on the podcast right now, honey. And it's recording. You're number one. You've been on the phone for four hours. Four hours and 41 minutes, actually. It's 12 years later. It's maybe the Navigator. This may be the longest episode. 04:20:39.980 --> 04:21:08.320 Can you work it? Work it real good. All right. Did I ever mention Slayer? Yeah, I did. Not Slayer. Metallica. Fuck. It's only 1.42 in the morning. Slayer, Week in the Abyss, in October of 1990, they did three shows or whatever. 04:21:08.840 --> 04:21:38.640 on the east coast and one of them was the Trocadero in Philadelphia. And holy fucking shit. I've talked about it a million times. I don't need to say anything more. Sounds good. Yeah. I'll do the same. Mine. It's John. I'm sorry, John. No, wait, John already went. It is you. Sorry. Okay. Nevertheless, if you know me, you know, it was going to be probably maybe to this. I don't know. Fuck. That was a fucking thing to say. But here's the thing. I was already been mentioned. 04:21:39.739 --> 04:22:08.800 One of those things you didn't think was going to happen in your lifetime. I don't have, it would take too long to truly explain how much it meant to me and how good I thought they were. But without question, my number one favorite set of all time is Celtic Frost on the Monotheist tour 2006. Blew me away. It was a culmination of their career and my love of that band. It was fucking awesome. Enough said. Enough said. And in that 04:22:08.840 --> 04:22:37.780 That documentary, Dying God Coming Into the Human Flesh, there's scenes from that show. So unfortunately, there's not a whole thing of it, but you can see some of my show on that, and I've watched it a million times just to see that. Nice. Yeah. My number one has not been mentioned, not even close. But if you listen to our episode 100, you probably might know who this band is. Yeah. We're going to be sentenced. And it is sentenced. 04:22:41.301 --> 04:23:08.780 The one and only time that I got to see this band, and as far as I know, the only time they may have come to the United States was at Jax. The headlining band was In Flames, but fuck them. The next band was Killswitch Engage, but fuck them. The next band was Dark Tranquility, but meh, okay. But the opener of this whole fucking ordeal was Seth. 04:23:10.479 --> 04:23:37.680 And the room was packed. I mean, I've told this story before. The room was packed. Nobody fucking knew who they were. I was the only one that was engaged in this show. And I was singing along. And V-Lay, the singer, was like, hey, there's one dude here that knows who we are. And he was like reaching out to me. I was like five rows back and I was reaching out to him and he was singing directly to me. 04:23:38.800 --> 04:24:08.460 You can't fucking top that shit. When the singer is like, I see you, you see me, and he is singing to you, how can you fucking top that? Great, George. That's awesome, George. Favorite band and an amazing moment. Yeah. And nobody else there was like, they were like, oh, who is this? Fuck them. What tour was that for in Flames? It was, I want to say it was Reroute. Okay. Yeah. Oh, that's unfortunate. I mean, I'm kidding. I, I, I, 04:24:08.800 --> 04:24:38.740 I don't like anything they've done. Yeah. Anything after like the fucking pinball. I mean, I like Colony. You have to leave early though, George. So there you go. No, I stayed for the whole show because that's what I do. I did. But I was just like, after that, it was just like, yeah, whatever, you know. Yeah. I mean, I mean, that was the same show that we saw the dark tranquility singer in the parking lot on the cell phone. Cause you know, we're like, fuck what, you know, fucking flames or whatever. We were left early and he, and, 04:24:38.820 --> 04:24:40.960 We went outside Jack's and if 04:24:41.690 --> 04:24:43.220 the two guys here that have been to Jack's 04:24:43.980 --> 04:24:45.400 know, you know, there's like 04:24:45.410 --> 04:24:47.240 the little parking lot outside and there's like 04:24:47.290 --> 04:24:49.240 other restaurants and stuff and the singer for Dark 04:24:49.380 --> 04:24:51.460 Tranquility was out arguing with somebody on the phone 04:24:51.820 --> 04:24:53.080 and we were like, dude, sorry 04:24:53.540 --> 04:24:55.520 Dark Tranquility guy, but you know 04:25:19.620 --> 04:25:23.580 I would like to suggest that nobody gives a shit what we're listening to at this point. 04:25:24.080 --> 04:25:53.980 No, no, no, we must. It's so late. It is, but I only have. If you haven't realized, I'm falling asleep. Like, it is 1.47 in the fucking morning. But we've gone this far. Come on. No. Who gives a shit at this point? I'm with Jay. I'm with Jay. We can do a vote. Do a vote. Is anybody dying to tell everybody what you're listening to? Me? Maybe let's just pick one or two. 04:25:54.080 --> 04:26:23.120 Let's just have Dan. Dan tells us what he's listened to and then... I'm dying. Y'all can fucking leave and I'll do mine. I don't fucking care. It's like, why did they come on with this freaking five-hour cast? I'm starving. Exactly. That's the point. They're too fucking long. It's like South Park. You're blaming Canada, aren't you? Blame Canada. Blame Canada. I like Terrence and Phillip. Yeah, man. There you go. 04:26:24.100 --> 04:26:53.980 Can everybody do too? I'll do too. Blame Fredericksburg. Blame Fredericksburg. Seriously, I'm last anyway. I'll just do what I want to do. Dan, what are you listening to? Okay. So, revisiting back to an album that actually came out in February because I didn't give it enough time. And it's the Tombs album, Monarchy. Oh my God, I can't even speak. Thank you. Monarchy of Shadows. Yeah. I didn't give it much time, but listening to it lately, 04:26:54.100 --> 04:27:24.020 It's a fucking ripper, honestly. Like, from start to finish, I know he picked up a couple of musicians from another death metal band, I believe, out in New York, and I think they helped out a little bit with the songwriting, and to me, this is probably the most solid Toombs album that I've actually ever heard. EP. So from start to, yeah, EP. Well, it's a long EP as well, though, so, right? It's no 20-minute EP, but, no, it's a great album, so if you slept on it in February, 04:27:24.100 --> 04:27:53.360 I would suggest revisiting it now. So definitely. Awesome. What else you got? Um, triage. So triage is, I don't know if you ever. Yeah. So kill the client was a, was a really great grind band. Um, triage is three quarters of kill the client is what it is. I did not know that, but I did, I did dig this. Yeah. So that's exactly, I mean, it is what it is, right? It's, it's straight up grind, uh, great riffs, great vocals. 04:27:54.080 --> 04:28:23.560 I'm a big fan of the band myself. I like the singer quite a bit actually. I like a lot of the other projects that he does as well as the drummer. So yeah, huge fan. It's a great album. So check it out. Awesome. Yeah, I like it. That's, well, are we just doing two? Just do it. All right. I got one more. So I think it's pronounced Cabara, I believe. I think it's got members of 16. 04:28:24.100 --> 04:28:54.000 and goatsnake, I think. So this thing is just filled with like, I don't know, just like snarling riffs. The vocalist is like spewing bile. Like it's just, it's just pounding. At times it comes across a little bit industrial. It's pretty far from industrial, but it just kind of gives you that vibe. Just a really heavy, heavy album. Sludgy. Yeah, there you go. Sludgy. Like a doom sludge. Yeah, for sure. Solid all the way. Heavy. 04:28:54.080 --> 04:29:23.120 I just really highly suggest you guys check it out if you haven't yet. Sweet. Well, that's it. That's what I got. Mark us on. Okay. All ripped as well. Cryptic Shift, visitations from Enceladus, Blood Harvest Records, excellent cosmic death metal, ultra progressives, heavy, surprising at every turn, I think. Really like that. Like Rats, Death Monolith from Hibernation Records. This is one of the best death metal records this year, I think. Hell yeah. 04:29:24.900 --> 04:29:50.240 It's really good. Merrowfields, Metamorphosis on Redline Records. A really good doom record with sung vocals. I'd never heard of them before. What's it called? Merrowfields, Metamorphosis on Redline. Faith Extractor, Proverbial Lambs to the Ultimate Slaughter on Hell's Headbanger Records. 04:29:54.080 --> 04:30:22.740 a few days ago and answered questions about incantation and somebody asked him what he was listening to and he mentioned Faith Extractor so I checked them out and now I can't get enough of this band. Ripping, Death Metal, Darkness. I love the guitar tone on this album. All their albums are pretty good but the newest one is the best. Head of the Demon, Deadly Black Doom on Invictus Productions. I love that album. Yeah man it's a great one. It's a great album. 04:30:23.180 --> 04:30:53.140 It's like a join our cult kind of doom. I feel like I'm almost hypnotized by it, you know? Yeah. Hellgate, Par de la Lée as Extance. It's French, so hard for me to pronounce. It's kind of like a barbarian version of Alcest. I'll skip down a couple of these. Malice, To Mantle, The Rising Sun, Northern Silence Productions. Just grim, deadly, atmospheric black metal. Really well crafted. Probably my favorite black metal release this year. I don't know. 04:30:53.200 --> 04:31:21.320 There's a lot of good ones actually coming out. Sinistral King, Serpent Uncoiling on Vendetta Records, Cavernous, Destructive Black Metal. I know John likes this one. Lakai's Shroud, Other Cosmic Divinations, one. Self-released. It's a fantastic progressive doom death. Lots of synths in it. It's inspired by science fiction and fantasy, which always hits me right in the feels. 04:31:23.200 --> 04:31:53.160 The guy who does it, Brett Windangle from Soulmask, does everything on it. There's only three out of five songs up right now because he's not able to finish it because of the pandemic. But you still get 33 minutes of amazing music on there. I'm really looking forward to hearing the last two tracks. Good stuff. All right. Matt. All right. We've mentioned this before on the podcast, Barishi. The album is Old Smoke on Season of Miss. It's the third album from the U.S. kind of sludging 04:31:53.180 --> 04:32:00.900 Sludge Doom Noise Band. An album that came out today, Drot. They are an Italian black metal band. The album is called 04:32:02.121 --> 04:32:22.280 Gimurti on avant-garde music. Another band, Endless Forms Most Gruesome. The album is self-titled. It's the first album from a Finnish Sludge Doom groove metal band. I believe the singer is from Ghost Brigade and the other gentleman in the band is from Soul of the Sun. 04:32:23.060 --> 04:32:51.740 And then digging around the box, I found Cosmic Putrefaction, The Horizons Towards Which Splendor Withers. That's on I Void Hanger. It's the second album from an Italian death metal band. I really dig it. And then also on the box was, I believe this is a one-man project, a Swedish death crime band called Henry Kane. Yes. The Idol on Transcending Obscurity. That's their second album. Really digging that one. Nice. I'm glad somebody listened to that. 04:32:52.420 --> 04:32:53.280 All right, John. 04:32:55.479 --> 04:32:58.320 Okay, I'm going to mention one band, and then I'm going to give you instructions. 04:32:58.960 --> 04:32:59.880 I'm really tired. 04:33:00.320 --> 04:33:05.381 So just go to the Metal Heads Podcast Facebook page and look for New Music Friday, 04:33:05.721 --> 04:33:07.641 and you'll see all the albums I'm listening to. 04:33:07.801 --> 04:33:11.980 I will provide you links to their Facebook page and to the Bandcamp. 04:33:12.279 --> 04:33:13.561 So you got everything there. 04:33:13.660 --> 04:33:14.420 I'm not going to mention them. 04:33:14.420 --> 04:33:15.580 I'm too freaking tired. 04:33:15.740 --> 04:33:17.119 It's almost 2 o'clock in the morning. 04:33:17.260 --> 04:33:17.840 I am sorry. 04:33:18.439 --> 04:33:20.141 And I've literally been up for 24 hours. 04:33:21.061 --> 04:33:22.600 So my one band, 04:33:23.119 --> 04:33:23.699 Cryptic Shift, 04:33:24.260 --> 04:33:25.561 Visitations from Enceladus. 04:33:26.080 --> 04:33:28.359 This album just is killer. 04:33:28.391 --> 04:33:29.180 I mentioned it earlier. 04:33:30.061 --> 04:33:31.100 I'm not going to say any more about it. 04:33:31.160 --> 04:33:31.699 Go check it out. 04:33:32.422 --> 04:33:33.141 I will, 04:33:33.439 --> 04:33:33.660 please. 04:33:36.260 --> 04:33:38.520 Are we mentioning our number one or are we? 04:33:38.660 --> 04:33:38.840 No, 04:33:38.920 --> 04:33:39.801 what we're listening to, 04:33:40.160 --> 04:33:41.080 what we're listening to, 04:33:41.221 --> 04:33:41.340 dude. 04:33:42.500 --> 04:33:43.801 Did I mention my number one? 04:33:44.090 --> 04:33:44.320 You did. 04:33:44.369 --> 04:33:44.641 You did. 04:33:44.650 --> 04:33:45.080 It was awesome. 04:33:45.359 --> 04:33:45.641 All right. 04:33:46.400 --> 04:33:46.740 By the way, 04:33:46.939 --> 04:33:47.039 Dan, 04:33:47.141 --> 04:33:47.980 it's always like this. 04:33:48.061 --> 04:34:17.939 The Alchemist. Fucking love that album. That's it. That's all I'm going to talk about. Alchemist. Awesome. Cool. I'll be brief. I will be brief. And just mentioned that the Aranci Pazuzu is getting spun a lot by me once the thing gets in your hooks and you're a little bit fucked. And I also kind of want to honor Dan's style of going back. And I've been listening to so much music and I'm going back and revisiting some albums. And I'll just say one more album. It's the last Paul Bearer album is better than we all gave it. 04:34:19.199 --> 04:34:20.820 It's really fucking good 04:34:20.939 --> 04:34:21.561 I love it 04:34:23.119 --> 04:34:24.320 Well, not all of us 04:34:24.461 --> 04:34:27.260 I don't know what it was that I did not see in it 04:34:27.740 --> 04:34:28.580 When I listened to it before 04:34:28.721 --> 04:34:31.779 But now it's like fucking as good as anything else they ever did 04:34:32.400 --> 04:34:33.961 What you did not see in it 04:34:34.141 --> 04:34:36.859 Was that Chemist's album was way better than that one 04:34:37.020 --> 04:34:37.520 Actually 04:34:38.221 --> 04:34:39.561 What prompted me to do it 04:34:40.619 --> 04:34:42.000 It was almost like 04:34:42.439 --> 04:34:44.260 Chemist was the poor man's Paul 04:34:44.340 --> 04:34:46.119 Yeah, it damn reminded me 04:34:46.180 --> 04:34:48.039 I had said that and I feel terrible about that 04:34:48.859 --> 04:35:17.900 He's reminding you about this far. This is a really good album. No, no, no. But then I, so I was like, you know what? I, I need to go listen to Paul Bearer. Cause that might've been, and I was right. You're the chemist. That record, that record is good. And, and I'm just glad that, and I'm doing that with a lot of records, but I'll leave out the other ones and we'll talk more. One other thing I keep discovering audio flubs. Cause I'm listening to a lot of headphones right now. And on Leper Messiah and the last, um, before, 04:35:18.039 --> 04:35:21.740 the last chords. 04:35:24.301 --> 04:35:25.840 Somebody says, ah, fuck. 04:35:26.641 --> 04:35:27.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 04:35:28.600 --> 04:35:30.801 So I've been finding those and I'm making notations. 04:35:31.020 --> 04:35:34.461 I'm going to give you guys a bunch of Easter eggs here in the next podcast. 04:35:35.600 --> 04:35:35.961 All right. 04:35:36.100 --> 04:35:40.199 I don't have a super long list, so please will endure. 04:35:41.529 --> 04:35:43.660 And I'm going to not say too much stuff. 04:35:44.520 --> 04:35:47.061 I have sort of backed off of the grind chord, 04:35:47.320 --> 04:35:48.000 brutal death to, 04:35:48.561 --> 04:35:51.301 for like some death doom stuff to slow it down a little bit. 04:35:51.480 --> 04:35:53.180 So the first up is Ataraxy. 04:35:53.980 --> 04:35:55.740 It's going back to 2005, 04:35:55.891 --> 04:35:56.660 their first album, 04:35:56.859 --> 04:36:00.721 slow transcending agony funeral doom. 04:36:01.680 --> 04:36:02.859 Also an old album, 04:36:03.061 --> 04:36:03.840 daylight dies, 04:36:03.980 --> 04:36:06.061 dismantling devotion from 2006. 04:36:06.400 --> 04:36:07.600 It's their second album. 04:36:11.381 --> 04:36:12.840 Maybe I don't, 04:36:12.840 --> 04:36:42.820 I don't know if Dan knows who this band or not. They're actually another Brooklyn, but they're called Flahen Fall. They're a Brooklyn goth metal band. They sound like just like Woods of E. Prey. And so I kind of dig them. They have it. It's an EP, but they have a new album coming out soon for length. Impalement. The Impalement is the name of the album. It's the first album of a Swiss black death band. Cruelty with a K. The album is called A Dying Traveller. 04:36:42.859 --> 04:37:12.779 It's the first album of a Japanese death doom band. Markasson mentioned Like Rats, Death Monolith. I'm not going to go into that anymore. Necropanther. I missed this band, but I noticed it because Dan from Chemist picked up their latest album on Bandcamp. Their third album called The Doomed City. I picked up all three of their albums. Good stuff. I also picked up the entire November's Doom catalog on Bandcamp because they just released it. But so far, I've only listened to the first two. 04:37:12.859 --> 04:37:42.680 amid its hallowed mirth and of sculpted ivy and stone. Good shit. I've been listening to Sisters of Mercy a lot just because. Two more. The new Sorcerer album, which is not out yet, but we have the promo for Lamenting of the Innocents. Their third album, Swedish Epic Doom. Good stuff. And finally, the Tomb Stoner album, Descent. Actually, it's an EP. Descent to Madness. They're a New York death metal band. 04:37:42.859 --> 04:38:12.801 And it is good shit. So you should check it out. Yes. Yeah, we did. Listen to that today. All right. And here we are at the end. You may all go to sleep now. It is 1 59 a.m. in the East Coast. You're a fucking hero, Dan, for doing this, for sticking around so long. Yeah, it is. There's almost five hours on the recorder. Probably edit down to less, but maybe not. No, this has been, it's been a ton of fun. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. 04:38:13.439 --> 04:38:17.020 We'll have you back for a shorter one because you're a 04:38:17.480 --> 04:38:20.260 treat to talk to. So I think we would love to have you again. 04:38:20.600 --> 04:38:23.180 Yes, but I don't know why he says shorter because we're never shorter. 04:38:24.900 --> 04:38:27.840 You should just go to Decibel Fest. That's shorter than this podcast. 04:38:31.539 --> 04:38:37.840 I just want to say thanks to you for always posting on our Facebook page and just contributing and like, you know, 04:38:38.641 --> 04:38:42.141 making great conversation on there and giving great recommendations for things. 04:38:42.301 --> 04:38:44.039 I really appreciate you interacting with us. 04:38:44.301 --> 04:38:44.721 Well, of course. 04:38:45.799 --> 04:38:48.400 And since I'm a Facebook friend with you, and I think the rest of the guys are, 04:38:48.561 --> 04:38:50.619 I want you to know, I see your Facebook posts. 04:38:50.699 --> 04:38:52.641 I see what you're doing in your life and stuff, and I like to know. 04:38:52.760 --> 04:38:53.039 It's fun. 04:38:53.119 --> 04:38:54.221 So I do read your stuff. 04:38:54.381 --> 04:38:57.580 I like to know that you go hiking because at least somebody is. 04:38:57.801 --> 04:38:58.240 That's good. 04:38:58.520 --> 04:38:58.779 That's good. 04:38:58.961 --> 04:39:00.420 I mean, Jay hikes a lot, too. 04:39:00.520 --> 04:39:01.100 You and you guys. 04:39:01.141 --> 04:39:01.699 I mean, I'm doing. 04:39:02.100 --> 04:39:02.221 Yeah. 04:39:02.320 --> 04:39:05.000 I mean, I'm doing that in like, what, six hours, I believe. 04:39:05.141 --> 04:39:05.641 I'm going. 04:39:09.141 --> 04:39:11.400 Well, you're a fucking hero, man. 04:39:11.461 --> 04:39:28.480 Like, I mean, this was a marathon, so. Yeah, it was. Thanks, guys. All right. I loved it. Go to bed. It is now 2.01 a.m., and we are going to check out, so see you next time. All right. See you guys. Okay. See you guys. Bye. Bye. 04:40:03.260 --> 04:40:06.060 Das ist. 04:40:22.200 --> 04:40:24.878 Субтитры создавал DimaTorzok