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Now, here is the podcast.

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Metal Heads Podcast Go.

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Hello and welcome to the Metal Heads Podcast.

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My name is George.

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This is Jay.

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This is Will.

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This is John.

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This is Matt.

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This is Markisan.

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And we have a very, very special band on tonight.

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We are pleased to have a scaldor. Say hello guys. Introduce yourselves and what you do in the band. Hey guys, this is Kerry. I'm vocals and bass. This is Tommy. I'm the drummer. This is Harry. I'm the guitarist. This is Brent. I'm the other guitarist. So for the uninitiated at home,

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If you've been living under a rock and haven't heard of this black metal band. So, Scaldor's a black metal band. Where are they from? I like to think of you guys as an old school black metal band. Based right here in Alexandria slash Washington, D.C. So, why don't one of you guys take the lead and tell us a little bit about the band. All right, shoes up.

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Yeah, I guess it was basically a project started by Tommy and Harry. I guess that would have been like tail end of 2017 pretty much, winter. Yeah, I think that's right. In the old days. Yeah, right. The before times. But yeah, those guys played previously together in a rock band and I guess a couple of projects maybe. Did you just say a rock band? No, I didn't say that.

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Yeah, they used to play rock band together. And they were like, damn, we are super good. Like, let's, no, no, they just, yeah, just had the, had the shared black metal love. So I guess I had met Tommy through a mutual friend when I worked at Lost Rhino. You just like, he stopped in, you were hanging out with him. We started talking about music and I mean, that was like years ago. Yeah, that was like, Carrie and I met by chance a full year before Skalder ever got started.

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And like that was the only time we had met. So I got his phone number that night and then a year passed. Did you get lucky? Clearly. No, but so like literally a year passed and then Harry and I decided we wanted to start some kind of a black metal project. And I was like, I might know a guy that could do vocals for us. So I texted Carrie out of the blue and he was like, hell yeah, I'll do vocals for you. All right, Carrie, continue.

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Okay.

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Yeah, no, that was that was about the just I guess we

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yeah, we just sort of started jamming

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I guess the first time we got together

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what we tried to play like a couple Metallica

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songs in a power trip song or something. Rip

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Did you play anything off the black album?

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God, no. No, thank you.

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I did listen to your guys installment from last week

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and I heard a lot of ribbing about Will

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and the black album.

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Yeah, Will, did you listen to it yet?

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I did not even listen to the episode

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But hey Jay the running agenda item is done so we're good. I guess black metal or black album. All right. Well I just say move to adjourn. All right. Well we should probably do the rest of it. He's got more. He's got a few more to bring up. I still have to say that I told you about something first. All right. All right. Keep going. Oh thanks. Yeah. I didn't pick up mine. All right. Cool. Where were we? Gary. Scaldor. Yeah. Yeah.

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I guess we just started jamming on that stuff. Harry being the fountain of music that he was just kind of started churning stuff out. I guess at that point we were playing with a different guitarist, a guy named Tommy Farewell, who is like an exceptional lead guitarist, but like really, really thrash metal focused. Exclusively thrash, excruciatingly thrash metal focused. Well, I'm glad that he's no longer there because it would be really difficult having two Tommies on here and not knowing who the hell I'm

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Yeah, so the original lineup was Tommy, Tommy, Harry, and Carrie. Wait, you at Harry, Carrie in your band? Have you seen Will Ferrell's Harry, Carrie? God damn, it's fucking funny. Oh, it is. Anyway, sorry. We're just going to keep interrupting, but you need to keep getting back into the story. Another interesting fact is that we couldn't find anybody to play bass for us.

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I put out some Craigslist ads and shit and I hit up people that I knew and no one seemed to be interested. So, uh, Carrie with his musical prowess was just like, fuck it. Some guy left a bass in my closet. So I'm going to learn how to play it. I did that too. That's true. I'm almost getting a feeling, Carrie, that you were never a singer. You were never a bass player, but somehow you're the leader of a band now. Yeah, it's pretty weird. I don't know what I'm doing here. Winging it. Fake it till you make it. Yeah, pretty much. Uh,

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That was definitely the case for bass, man. It was a little rough starting. But did you play guitar before that? No. I played classical violin since I was five. Took lessons for like 13 years or so. So I mean, that's obviously not like at all the same thing. But I just kind of had to, I figured like, you know, it's big and slow and you play one note at a time. Like it can't be that hard. And nobody can hear you anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

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On, you know, Injustice for All. Yeah. Or black metal is the whole genre. Or anything from the 80s. Yeah, it gets buried a lot. People don't produce bass very well. At least a lot of people don't. I mean, recording and playing live, I'm not even plugged in. It's just there for looks. Like Sid Vicious. So what was your first live show like? It was at Atlas, actually. So it was pretty cool.

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There was a pretty whack lead up to that. This was April 26th, I think, of last year. And Tommy, Brent, and I had been overseas actually at Inferno Fest for like a week and a half before that. So we basically flew back in. That's in Norway, right? Yeah, in Oslo. Wait, what was it? I missed that. What was in Oslo? Inferno? Yeah, I don't know. I just saw the lineup and for some reason was like, Jesus Christ, I'm actually going to.

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I'd love to go to that.

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We can do it.

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Yeah, we sort of...

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You know Jesus?

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Like, you're just like, hey, Jesus Christ, I'm going, man.

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You want to come?

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No, no Jesus.

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Boo, black metal.

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We're not on great terms at the moment.

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I saw a good...

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It was Easter weekend.

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He tried to come back, but we scared him away.

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I saw a thing not long ago, and it was something where a friend of mine came up to me and said,

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I found Jesus.

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And this person said back to their friend, we're going to be rich. Sorry. Continue. Tell me how that works. I saw some t-shirt and I'm going to totally butcher this. It was like one of those ads on like Facebook, you know, that they squeeze in between posts and it was some, you know, hippie looking dude. It had like a picture of Jesus on the crosses and it said something to the effect of like Jesus died for your sins, but I think you're an asshole or something like that.

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I like that you just sort of gave up. Yeah, yeah. I know. I probably should have just fucking looked it up. I don't know what the punchline was, but it sure was. It was great. You should have been there. I saw a similar one where it's got this, you know, Mexican guy with a big sombrero on like bending Jesus over and fucking the ass. And it says, Jesus fucking Christ.

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that up a notch, Will. Nicely done. I saw another one. It wasn't funny, but it was just cool. But I know my wife never let me get it. It had like a Baphomet thing in the middle and it's out of a circle. And on the outside, the text was like, no gods, no masters. Think for your fucking self. I was like, ew. Were you guys in the middle of telling us who else played that show with you? And how did you headline it? So I do want to interject real quick. Please do.

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So there's a history here. Why did Skulder play Atlas as their first show? Is this sort of a trivia question, Will? No, no, I just want Kerry to kind of expand upon this for a little bit. Yeah, so I was brewing there at the time. Oh, there's your trouble. Gotcha. Yeah. Kerry was a brewer at Atlas. How long ago did you do? Let's see. I guess going on a year at this point. Seriously? Wow. Yeah, pretty much.

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I guess I've been in lockdown for most of that. Yeah, right. I wouldn't have thought it was that long, but this has been a weird year. So, yeah. So, Kerry's a professional brewer. You brewed at Los Rhino, which you kind of mentioned earlier, but I mean, people may have thought Los Rhino was a record store, but Los Rhino Brewery. I know it. Out in Northern Virginia. Like Ashburn area. And you came to Atlas. And then, yeah. So, then you guys played your first show at Atlas. So, tell us about that. Super, super cool. Yeah.

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that we played with Undesecated, which is a project that was made up of some of the former members of Lorde. Yep. And who the fuck else played that show even? Oh my God. Oh, Bound by the Grave was the headliner. Yeah. Zucatre was supposed to play that night as well, but something came up. I think the drummer was on her period or something and they didn't play. So yeah, it was us Undesecated and then Bound by the Grave headlined.

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Cool. And obviously I was at the show. I think some of you, John and George, you guys were at the show, right? I feel like I was at the second show. What was your second show? Because I remember, I remember talking to Carrie and you saying something like, yeah, it was like our second show ever. And I was like, what? Cause you know, that was awesome. Yeah. Probably also what that was. Was it? Yeah, no, it was. Was it like Bane or something? That wasn't the second show that I think was either the third or fourth. See, I actually have a logo or a folder full of flyers.

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Okay, well. Apparently, our second show was actually at the upstairs auto bar. Okay, I've never been there, so I know. Oh, yeah. I don't like getting dead. Dude, no, it was. You're right. It was Bane, actually. That was our third show. I think it was your second time at Atlas, wasn't it? Yeah, that was the second time. That's probably what it was. Just real quick, one thing that I could tell you about that show that I haven't forgotten. Will and I are fairly tall. I felt short standing next to half of you guys.

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I was like fuck Harry is a tall dude I'm like six three as no I'm point guarding this this conversation yeah was this also the show that Harry had his friends over uh oh Kyle yeah that was yeah and that guy's like actually seven foot eight without the combat boots and my friend Kyle came up and he's seven feet tall so well I also remember about whenever

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You guys bring good-looking women to the brewery. I'm not just talking about Carrie. I'm talking about like real women. Carrie still has the best hair, though. Carrie up there without a shirt on, all that paint and stuff. I was just like... You know I'm kidding, right? Carrie, he's not kidding. He's not kidding. Call you later. No, we try. I think we had a really, really nice

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We definitely got lucky. I had a lot of friends that wanted to come and

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share support and everything. So that was definitely really nice.

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That was a great fight.

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I remember your first show. First of all,

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I know Carrie as Carrie the Brewer. I don't know Carrie at all

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as Carrie the lead singer

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and bassist for a black metal band.

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It was interesting to see that complete transition

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because you guys play in hoods and corpse paint, right? Yeah, we decided to go a little throwback-y with all that stuff, I guess. Yeah. And I think I told you guys this that night. I was completely blown away. I was super, super, super impressed with the sound, the stage performance. It was your first show ever. And I could not have been more impressed and pleased.

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that night. I'm sure you guys hopefully were too. I mean, you guys brought a big crowd. I mean, it was, it was energetic and it was, it was, it was a great night. I knew Carrie previous to scene because, you know, I'd seen you and talked to you at Atlas before and, you know, he was like, Hey, I'm in a band. And I'm like, Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Okay. But then finally seeing it, I was like, damn, that's a pretty good band. I remember Will giving us some of the early tracks. Yeah. Back in surprise.

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to how good they were. Like 2017 or something. I remember him passing along and then kind of looking back on Bandcamp here, you have two demo tracks and those are the ones. And then like years later, Kerry, I met you at, was it Monks? I feel like we were trying to get Will drunk. Yes. Yeah, that's right. I was like, that's the scholar guy. Right on, man. So I was at a decibel fest, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. That was a lot of fun. So I'm, lately I'm more of a death metal guy. But

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In years past, I was very much more of a black metal guy than a death metal guy. And I feel like my three favorite black metal bands of all time are probably Emperor, Dissection, and Dark Throne. Emperor is kind of the symphonic side. Dark Throne is the really raw end of the spectrum. And Dissection sits kind of in the middle. And I was talking to a friend about you guys. He didn't know you guys were coming on.

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was like, hey, do you know this band, Scaldor? They're kind of cool.

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And I was like, yeah, I know them.

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And he was like, yeah, it's really like dissection without the asshole murderers.

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And so then I went back and I listened to it again, and I was like, yeah, if I had to throw you in one of those columns, I would definitely put you in the dissection column, which is a very good column to be in.

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from my perspective.

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There's a good reason why the only live cover we've ever performed is the Sombra and Bi-Dissection.

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They're an enormous influence on us, so unsurprising that we've received that in relation.

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Especially with the acoustic guitar stuff, that's very dissection-y.

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So are all four of you guys really big into black metal? Or do some of you venture more into death or some other type, but you all have come together to make this great black metal? No, we actually just listened to the Black album on loop. I mean, technically that is black metal. Well, if you listen to that, and while I am the lone professional,

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of the black album on this podcast.

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I will make the joke that if you listen to the black album long enough,

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it will piss you off enough to make black metal.

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So are you all, are you, are all you guys just like really in the black metal

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or you kind of just came together to make black metal?

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That's kind of where the overlap is.

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I mean, we all come from pretty different musical backgrounds, both in terms of metal and whatever other weird shit we're listening to. But that's really kind of the overlap. And black metal is one of the only kinds of metal that kind of gives you the liberty to fuck around and sound horrible or sound good or do whatever you want. You know, it's yeah, there's like fewer constraints. So it's a good sort of platform for all these wacky influences we have to come together and makes it fun to write because, you know,

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We'll come in with an idea and it'll turn into some crazy shit that we would have never thought of. It was like, hey, cool. That's where it led. So let's let's do it. Let's roll with it. So, you know, to that end, Harry, which by the way, I keep thinking that somehow Casey Affleck got on here. Did you really look like him? But they, uh, we, our list, our lists are going to be a shit show. I mean, am I wrong about this? Like, I'm so glad you just did what you said because I, when we do, we have a list at the end of the podcast. There's black metal albums.

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I won't be any more specific than that. I don't know why we don't like to give spoilers, but the point is, is we're going to be all over the fucking map here, man. I think so. Am I wrong? It was hard. It was hard to do. It was hard to do. And I was worried putting it on my list because it's like, well, we got this black metal band coming on. They're going to think, you know, but I don't think, I think it's such a broad and welcoming category at this point. Yeah. I mean, there's so many sub genres that, I mean, we will span quite a spectrum. I mean, all five, all five on my list is Metallica, the black album.

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Why not? I guarantee you three of my five will be on no one else's lists. One of them probably will be. You only have one album on your list. Shut up. And that one might be on another list. I don't know, but. Did you guys make lists? Goldberg, did you guys make lists? Are you sticking around for the list? Sweet. I spent the five minutes before I came on here throwing together a list. Was it easy for you? No. You're like, shit, I should have taken ten minutes.

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I think out of all the guys in the band, I think I probably consumed the most new black metal. I'm always looking for new shit on Bandcamp and I'm pretty active, you know, talking to other people that are into the scene and recommending stuff all the time. Oh, we need to follow each other on Bandcamp. What's your Bandcamp name? Or if you don't want to say it now, you can tell me later. Swipe right. I don't know what it is, honestly, but I'll get it to you later. Yeah, okay. It's always good to see what other people are buying. Yeah. Because we're pretty super active.

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on Bandcamp.

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Oh yeah.

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So actually,

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you know,

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so that's,

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that's great to hear that you guys all have different influences and things,

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but I'm wondering,

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I also wanted to go back to the first show,

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which was how long ago was that first show?

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Um,

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how long ago was it?

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It was the question.

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Yeah.

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How many years?

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2019.

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Oh,

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2019.

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Okay.

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So you guys are sniffing.

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Well,

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so you guys,

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you started in 2017.

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So that's a couple of years before you played that show.

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So I joined the band in after,

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I guess as the story goes,

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just to fill in the gaps a little bit more. I was in a work conference in Denver and flew back and drove straight to Springfield to meet these three guys before I ever knew Tommy or Harry. We were going to the... Did you just say you drove? Not from Denver. From the airport to Atlas, actually. I met Kerry and then we rode together to the Fillmore in Silver Spring.

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We had dinner before. This is right after their demo that they did with Steve Kirchner of Undessecated. They recorded in his basement studio. I have lived with Carrie for the last decade and obviously had been hearing about this band and outside looking in. Heard all their shit. Sounded great but very thrashy.

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So we sat down to have dinner and I was telling these guys the music is really good. You can see all the cool elements of black metal, but then there's this a lot less interesting thrash element creeping through and I guess the rest is history. Yeah, so we all kind of reached the consensus that we needed a different guitar player other than the other Tommy. Did he reach that consensus as well? So did you like give him a bus ticket home like halfway across the country?

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and you're like sorry Dave. Now we killed him. Okay. That's that's metal. Has anyone seen him since? More like dissection than we thought. Yikes. Yeah. You know we we booted him from the band as nicely as we could and uh and then Brent was always like Carrie's best friend for years so Carrie's just like you know Brent could play guitar for us and uh so then Brent was in the band and then we kind of reached our current

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black metal form with the addition of Brent and then, you know, a year and a half of practicing. You assumed your true form. So just from the guitar side of things, it was really challenging to write with other Tommy or have we called him fake Tommy yet? We always referred to him as fake Tommy. Right. So because I was always more interested in sort of like the wall of sound,

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que se le hicieron las cosas que se han hecho en el ámbro de la música.

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that really was a huge turning point. We spent those early days trying to kind of figure out what we were and where we were going. And that never really materialized with that lineup, which is why we were kind of sputtering on for a long time. Then Brent joined and then, you know. So did you have songs before the current lineup or did you write all the songs for the album with this lineup? We did write a couple, we cannibalized a couple of those older ones to sort of take the parts that we liked.

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removed the parts that kind of slowed the song down. And a couple of those made their way onto the album, which we liked them a lot more now than we did. But yeah, there were a few that we recorded. Because when we did our original demo that Brent was talking about, we still had fake Tommy in the band. So it was a very, very different sounding set of music. There was one song that remained relatively unchanged from then to now, but the rest of them changed significantly. And a few of them just kind of went kaput altogether.

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That's Gathering Night, the opening track on the release, Scythe of Our Errors. Yeah, I was going to say, we have not technically, I don't think, mentioned yet. The debut album is called Scythe of Our Errors. You can pick it up on Bandcamp, and I don't know, I'm assuming, is it on iTunes as well? Yeah, it's pretty much up on everything. Anything major streaming or whatever? Yeah. We still have CDs. Just ordered our second run of CDs as well, so gaming can keep those in stock pretty constantly.

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You got 122 people who bought the album on Bandcamp, which at this point in Bandcamp, that's pretty good. And can I just, I want to point out, we haven't done t-shirt and beer check yet, but let's just say I ordered some merch that we'll talk about later, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. And I was, I don't know who ships it out, but I was very impressed that it came in black packaging. I was like, that's fucking metal. I even showed my wife.

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She's like whatever I don't care like it's

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That's awesome. I'm really glad to hear you say so

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Yeah, that was Prince brilliant idea

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So two quick questions for you. Go ahead, John

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I was just gonna say it doesn't take a second. I just

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This must be kind of a whirlwind for you guys and because Brent seems like once you got in the fold and once things started rolling

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The ball started going fast for you guys, you know from the first time you played to an album out

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to like Will said, hey, there's like a ton of people buying your album on Bandcamp. Because I remember, because, you know, we've seen Carrie a number of times at the brewery, and we always go back and forth about all the prog stuff. And the next thing I know is like, okay, they got a band, there's demos, there's an album, holy shit, this is fast. I mean, so has it been a whirlwind considering the world we're living in? You guys are doing a lot, it seems like.

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Yeah, I think so. I guess a lot of it has just been the kind of stuff that we were pretty prepared for. But certainly as we started getting close to the dates that we were looking at for releasing, it was just like we realized how much shit there was to do. So honestly, it's been pretty nuts. I guess, I mean, we didn't even finish recording until what, I think April was the last.

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That's what I thought you guys said. Yeah, wow.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, sorry. Well, I just wanted to say it seems like this has gone so fast considering the world is kind of grinded to a halt for a little while here.

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Well, yeah, in a weird sort of way, I kind of take this in the best way. I kind of feel bad for you guys because you got traction like you're you.

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It's no secret. I'm not the biggest black metal fan of all the people on this on this podcast.

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I'm probably the least, the most reluctant black metal fan. And there's certain parts of black metal, there's certain subgenres of black metal that I like. I like black metal that's well produced and well played. I don't like that shitty tinny sounding crap that came out in whatever it was, the late 80s, early 90s from Norway and stuff. The production, it's more the production that I just thought was crap.

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So I almost feel bad for you guys because I love this. I love seeing you guys live. I love this album. I'm going to say now it's going to be on my list. It's great. It is this epically beautiful symphony of black metal. I don't know why I can't get it to play through the thing. But what I want to say is you guys

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I feel like you could do so much more if you could actually just go on a tour or just play more shows even if it was just locally so yeah we miss it we miss it man we we had a lot of fun with those shows I mean it's because it's part of it's just the entire routine of how much of a pain in the dick it is to get all the corpse pan on in time to get out there but once it's that once you're actually part of how why it hasn't felt too much like a world one is because of how much fun we've been having with it you know because

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We're all just kind of a bunch of Joe Schmo working stiffs who do this crazy shit on the side. So we just had such a good time with it all that played a barrage of shows, wrote a whole bunch of stuff. And we're still writing a bunch. But yeah, I agree. Timing ain't great. We'd love to be out there playing shows right now. Your time will come. Did you consider delaying the release at all and thinking maybe you'd be able to play shows to support it?

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have done that. They've held back the release because they can't go on tour. Yeah. Yeah, I guess I have seen a lot of people are doing that. And the more I've been listening to podcasts and stuff that people are doing because they can't release their albums and stuff, I realized like, oh, maybe we could have done that. But I don't know. I think we were pretty much just ready to get it out, I guess. I don't think there's no point at this point, is there? Like really, just put it out. You don't know when you're going to be doing Shizky. Right. Exactly.

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You can always re-pimp it once shows are a thing again. And when we can safely go to shows, we're going to fucking go, and I'm going to want to hear the last record that was out. And you may have a new record by that time. The black metal community and fandom is such that I don't think people are just going to forget about us after a couple of months. Yeah, I agree. I think a lot of shows will get a lot of people out there. If at all possible, when we have shows back at Atlas,

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You guys should be on the bill for the first show

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Yeah, that would be awesome

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That would be great

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The big plan for the release, you know, pre-COVID when we were recording back in December

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was to do a release party where we play the album straight through

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So that's what we were preparing for

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and the next show that we play, I think that's still, you know

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our feet are firmly in the cement with that one

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We want to be able to play cover to cover

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Yeah

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When you play Atlas again, can you please put Will

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in face paint. You've converted him to black metal. Will, you may borrow my makeup. Actually, Will's getting pretty old. He's not going to need corpse paint before it's you. Burn! So what, I mean, I look at you guys as pretty old school, sort of straightforward black metal, but what do you guys kind of describe it as?

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Do you feel like you're in some sort of other subgenre of black metal? Split some hairs. Yeah. I mean, I guess we always pretty much just tack ourselves into just melodic black metal, more or less. I mean, I think that's pretty much been the one, you know, focused, unified thing that we've always tried to do is have, you know, a strong, like, sense of lead melody. It's just like, you know, you can have chainsaw guitars all day, but like, as long as you're just playing the same, you know, chromatic riffs up and down a few times, like, I don't know, it's just not, you know, it gets a little bit old.

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to listen to. But if you have something that's going to catch you and hold your attention, something that's going to get stuck in your head and you're going to be humming it as you're going about your day, that was pretty much always what we were looking for. Yeah. I would definitely say that on song number two, the hate of the hate of arrow is drawn. Is that what it is? Arrow. Yeah. Sorry. I haven't barely eaten anything and I want my second beer and I just coach baseball all day. Drunk Will is here. Yeah. No, not.

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Yeah, not yet. But I feel like that one is sort of like, I don't want to say the catchiest, but it's the most memorable because it has sort of some of that melodic elements in it where you have some of the time changes and breaks a song up and stuff. That's just kind of my opinion. That's my favorite song. I want to ask you who did your cover art, but first I got to say having the album called The Scythe of Our Heirs and I live in California and your cover art looks like walking out of a burnt forest.

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which is what it's like to live here right now. Who did your cover art? And actually is there. What were you trying to convey? So the cover art was done by an artist out in Oregon named Adam Burke. He's on Instagram. It's at Night Jar Illustration. And he's an artist that I had just found on Instagram a while back and I've always followed and really enjoyed his artwork. And he seems to specialize in sort of

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Dark Landscapes, which is exactly what I had in mind for the album. He's pretty famous. Yeah. Yeah. Mark us on. What's your background? My background is an Adam Burke original that I bought from him. I saw that and I really fucking love that. That's cool, man. Yeah. And sometimes if he has to go to the bathroom, he'll walk right through that flame of fire. It's really cool to see. Yeah. So wait till he drinks more. Or he falls off his chair. I'm almost done with this mead. So yeah. Yeah. So the huge thanks.

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We fucking love the artwork that he made for us. We kind of gave him a rough idea of this desolate, burnt-up landscape, apocalyptic, sort of framed by dead trees with mountains off in the distance. And that's exactly what he made for us. Is he the Uwata guy? Who does Uwata? Because he calls him to mind. That's not Adam Burke. It's not him, but you're right. He is somewhat similar.

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Well, plus, and I sort of just made a link there, too, because they're from Portland, I believe. So they're probably burnt to a crisp by now. Portland's OK, but it is fucking bad. Just so you know, like I can't I can't even go outside right now. It is so smoky. Jay's in California. He's in Blade Runner. Yeah, he's been sending us pictures that are just unreal. Yeah. Well, that day that's actually let's talk about this for 30 seconds. I think it needed to come up. But that day, that orange day was fucking crazy.

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The birds didn't sing, man. Because nobody knew. You know what I mean? All the time clocks were off, so to speak. All the streetlights stayed on. It was fucking weird, dude. And then what happened, though, was the fog went out. And that day, the air quality was actually not bad because it was sort of sealed out by the cloud and fogs. That's gone now. And the smoke fell on us. And I'm telling you, dude, it is just brutal out there. You've got your eyes puff up right away and everything's fucking gross. No end in sight, too, I'm afraid. And there's going to be some big deaths coming out of Oregon, dude. Unfortunately, that

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Count's gonna get really high. Not to depress y'all. Awesome. But anyway, your album cover is awesome. So what does the title Scythe of Our Errors mean? Wait, do you mean Sith of Our Errors? Scythe. Just kidding. Just kidding. Take this one. Yeah, I guess a lot of our song names kind of wind up being, you know, in some capacity extracted from the lyrics. But pretty much that's also the

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the title track of the album.

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And I guess kind of a recurring theme, at least in a couple of songs.

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And certainly the title track is pretty much all about just, you know, we've done goofed.

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You know, we've fucked up.

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Every the royal we.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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As in humanity.

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Yeah, for sure.

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And I'm telling you, that's why the album cover works so good, especially because of what we're dealing with now.

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And that's the way I read it.

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And I'm not sure you're necessarily talking about climate change.

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So we've kind of fucked up and the Reapers scythe has just come along and just laid waste to everything. Yeah, pretty much. Like, here's what you get. Like, look, if this is how you guys are going to conduct yourselves, then this is what you fucking get. Nice. Kind of just in like every, every capacity to every, you know, angle that you could look at it from. It's just like, I mean, you look at everything going on right now and it's just very difficult not to make super angry music. I mean, like, you know, politics is fucked. The environment is fucked. Everything is just fucked. So we just decided to, you know, I mean, that it's really,

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really difficult to not write about anything else.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I would note that Carrie is the sole lyricist of the band as well.

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So yeah.

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Talk a little bit about your lyrical content.

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Oh, sorry.

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Go ahead, Marcus.

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That's all right.

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Well, no, it's going to fit into that.

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I was going to ask Carrie if he had like a favorite lyric that he wrote from the album.

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As a writer, you know, obviously you like everything that you do, but is there something in particular that really, that strikes you that you really love?

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a phrase that you're like,

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or that you're proud of.

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Um,

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yeah,

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I guess I'd say that my favorite was pretty much the title tracks lyrics.

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Um,

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and I don't know.

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I,

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there's the line that goes no more to be seen on this plane,

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passing a smoke to follow the light to the grave,

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which isn't like,

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uh,

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in and of itself,

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a super awesome passage of lyrics,

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but I think just the way that it hits with that kind of,

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uh,

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It's hitting in sort of like a poignant transition part. And that's just kind of my favorite entire moment on the album. So I guess that's my, I don't know, just a focal moment that I really enjoy. Did you have a theme that you were working with for the album? Towards the end, I would say, yeah. And it was basically that kind of like, as a, you know, just the whole scythe concept of having fucked up and so forth. Everything's sucking. But because of the fact that a lot of the songs are

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you know just older and uh i mean i think our evolution has been you know pretty quick generally speaking but it's you know pretty apparent if you read some of the uh some of the other songs like read those lyrics then it's just like what the fuck this is so different i mean some of them are about you know like necromancy and you know just you know strange nordic ritualistic shit um so there's definitely some yeah there's some songs that fluctuate a little bit from the yeah we we didn't write the album with it

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It's being a cohesive theme in mind. That wasn't what we had in mind when we wrote it. It was more we wrote all these individual songs and then we managed to fit them together in a somewhat cohesive way. So will the next album be more cohesive in a like, you know, okay, instead of taking all these songs that we have and throwing them together and making them work, is there going to be more of a pattern or a, you know,

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a thread that ties it all together more? Yeah, it's going to sound a lot like this. Well, you might have heard of the Black Album. Well played, sir. Well played. But yeah, that actually is something we discussed recently at one of our weekly band practices slash meetings. We would like to have the next album, whenever that may be, be somewhat cohesive thematically and mutually.

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Have you been working on material in isolation? Yeah. Yeah. Harry is pretty much the generator of all things. All of our things. Yeah. But yeah, he's just a legitimate fountain of just constant riff ideas and stuff. So basically it'll be like Harry will come up with a riff, maybe a series of them, and then it's kind of just a matter of like, you guys learn how to play this.

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We'll start fucking around with a little bit, stuff will change, and then it's just kind of like playing Jigsaw and just kind of, you know, syncing riffs up and figuring out, like, you know, what if we did this cool transition here? And then, yeah, that's kind of how it works. But yeah, I guess Harry has, we have, I think, like, one song that's pretty much close to completion. We have, like, a section we're working on still. And then there's a good solid, like, at least two or three, you know, ideas that are chunky enough to be fun.

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I guess so hey hey Harry are you the one that has a newborn at home

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uh yeah had a kid last week so that's that's been um it's put put a little bit of restraint on my

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metal riff generation but uh but yeah it's um you know what I wasn't really doing shit else

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anyway because we're all stuck inside so well congratulations dude yeah it is that's awesome

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If I duck out a little early at some point, I hope you all forgive me. Of course. Yeah. So did you have a boy? Do you have a girl? A boy. All right. Is his name Necromancer or what's his name? I thought about that, but pig fucker had a better ring to it. Of course, pig for short, you know, in public and all. Yeah. Pig fucker hogshead is perfect. Exactly. I really was vying for it to be called pig noggin. Pig noggin.

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And Harry's actual last name is Hogshead, which is pretty fucking cool. It's pretty fucking Harry Potter. Yeah, I was gonna say it's kind of Harry Potter-ish. But so what you need to do is you need to reframe. I, you know, I got two kids and Matt has two kids. And you need to reframe from letting those nursery rhyme influences come into, you know, the Skuller realm. You know, you don't want to have this.

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That could just make for the creepiest song in the world to have some bridge of a song, have this nursery rhyme, then go into the heaviest shit we've ever written right afterwards. With children singing it. With children singing it. Well, forgive you not. There is a market for that. I've seen this because I have friends who have kids and I bought some of these, but they're like, no, they'll take,

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It's like Iron Maiden, like an album, and they'll do it as nursery rhymes. Yeah, they do that in Metallica too. But they released it as an album as well. That's just bizarre. There's a Dutch band, I think they're Dutch, Opski, pretty much a one-guy project, and his latest album that came out earlier this year, it's all adapted from Dutch folklore and poems from their history. I don't know if

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It's nursery rhymey or not because I can't speak Dutch, but I bought the album on vinyl and it gave me this little book of all the poems written out and that's all the lyrics to all the songs. What was the band called again? Ofsky. A-F-S-K-Y. Okay. Very good album. I mean, if you think about some of the old brothers, like the old nursery rhymes, like Lurevator Riding Hood, it's pretty dark. Yeah, all that like grim stuff. That's pretty fucked up. Yeah. I think the moral of the story here, Will, is that you should

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that Harry, if he's inspired by Pigfucker to write some nursery rhyme stuff, he should. Yeah. But they should be fucked up nursery rhymes. Yeah. Damn right. Like, you know, I was just asking, my sister has a one and a three quarter year old and has another one on the way. And I asked her if she was reading the, the, she lives in Norway, by the way. Yeah. She, if she was reading the children's classic, go the fuck to sleep.

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to her kid because he was as read by Samuel L. Jackson.

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Wait, is there a version where he reads it?

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It's funny because I was on a Skype call with my brother, my sister, and my parents.

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My sister lives in Norway. My brother lives in Atlanta.

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My parents are like 20 minutes from here, but it was my dad's birthday.

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So we were having a call and that came up.

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My parents are pretty straight laced.

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And I was intimating to my sister. I was like, have you been reading? Because the kid's like one and three quarters and he is just like a bundle of energy and will never go to sleep. And I was like, have you tried reading him go the F to sleep? Trying to, you know, spare my mom. And she's all like, well, what's this? And I was like, well, just go online, look up Samuel L. Jackson, go to sleep and see what you get. Just play Enter Sandman. Well, and I don't know if you're familiar with it, Markisan, but the whole,

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The whole thing is based as a children's book. And it's like, you know, all the things are in their beds and all the things are at this. And then go to fuck to sleep. And every page ends with go the fuck to sleep. It's based on an actual children's book. It's like Good Night Moon or something. Yeah, it's Good Night Moon. That's a very popular book. That book already resonates with me. Yes. So, yeah, I think you can get it on Amazon.

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So tell us, uh,

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S.K.A.L.D.R.

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Does it have a meaning to it?

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Or you guys just like got drunk and played Scrabble?

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I'm like, Hey, that's a cool name.

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Run out of all.

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The name game was a long one.

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I mean, we had notebooks full of themes and words and,

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you know, shit that we liked.

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And, you know,

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Tommy came to the table with Scalder after we were dissatisfied with a bunch of other suitors. Yeah, so we played together for like a year and a half without an actual name. So what were some of the throwaways? Like what were the ones you were like? Yeah, maybe, but no. Was it spelled the way it's spelled when brought forward? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Well, I can't remember any throwaways, to be honest. We went through a lot of them.

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We didn't have any strong contenders. We were never happy with anything. You had a whole notebook full of it. We knew that the name had to be something that when you hear it right away, it kind of evokes a feeling. And you can recognize right away that it's a black metal name. We didn't want a collection of words. Yeah, you got that right. I mean, you got it right. If you have five words in your name, you are a metalcore band.

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Yeah, honestly, the hard part was finding a name that wasn't already taken. Yeah, sure. Get on Google, you're like, fuck. So many metal bands. If you drop the vowels, it's definitely black metal. Yeah. No, it's like, it just didn't matter how deep you dove down into your appendices in a Tolkien book, and you're just like, nobody's fucking thought of that, and you Google it, and there's like 12 bands on the second page. Damn it. Always Milwaukee.

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But Skaldr, the name is adapted from the word Skald, which are kind of like the Norse poets who carried down the history of the people. The oral mythology. Yeah. Tradition, yep. So we thought that fit well with the theme. Yeah, we started with Skald, and then, of course, there are an infinite number of bands with the name Skald. But then I just tacked an R on the end, which sounded cool to me.

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We scoured the internet and couldn't find anyone else with that name and we all kind of liked it and that's how Schalder came about. It turns out it's actually like a correct conjugation of some kind of weird definitive plural or something. I forget exactly what but it's actually a norwegian word or what? A norwegian word? Yeah. Yeah. I guess probably someone said it might mean like selfish in some other nordic language. Oh, I thought it just meant pit fucker.

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I'm going to text my sister right now and find out. Though it's like 4 o'clock in the morning there, so I won't hear back till tomorrow. Well, this isn't helpful. It is a cool name. I like it a lot. It is, yeah. Google Translate says that the English word for Skalder is Skalder. Yeah. But I mean, presumably it's a Norwegian concept. C-DC-based black metal band. No, but I mean, I guess that means that kind of goes with what you're saying.

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because it recognizes it as Norwegian, but it's clearly a Norwegian concept that probably does not translate because it's part of their mythology. Yeah. Yeah. That name really kind of resonated with me because a lot of the, um, obviously there's a heavy acoustic component to what we do. And in truth, everything I write, I start writing on acoustic guitar for any number of reasons. For one, it's just what I've been used to for most of the time I've been playing, but also, you know, everything you do has

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some kind of role to play, like every chord, every little weird note you do. And when you hit, like, behind a wall of distortion, you miss a lot of the nuance. So writing things when you kind of have nowhere to hide, once you do kind of plug that into band format, even if it's something kind of folkier, which a lot of our stuff, you know, I won't say it's a huge part, but I mean, there's definitely elements of it. Yeah, I was gonna say, there's definitely some folky elements to it. Yeah. But, you know, there are things that you kind of don't

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and you notice and you know because it's easy just to play minor chords with a ton of distortion and just crank away and huzzah yeah black metal but you know having that extra little layer of you know either the acoustic stuff or parts that are crazy heavy then get quiet you know just kind of just makes it more interesting to listen to and the folky element was part of the reason why when the name scald or scald or whatever variation was first mentioned that was one of the reasons i dug it because i'm like you know that actually does kind of work with what we're

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Yeah. Well, plus having added that, and then you say it was some sort of, that it works as an actual word, like if there's a conjugation or something, meaning that I can't figure out what the hell that is through Google, it's not helping me, but it's still like, it's a foundational thing, you know, which is what you're talking about with the acoustic stuff. Like there is something down at the bottom that's actually supporting everything. That's cool. It works, works really well. It's nice to know you guys thought it out that thoroughly. Not easy. Yeah. Well, it took you a year. I mean, it could be worth it.

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So when you guys played without a name, what was on the poster? What did they refer to you as? We never actually played any shows until we had the name, so thank God. Yeah. I feel like, maybe I'm misremembering, but it was getting down to where we almost had a show coming up, or we were ready to fucking play shows, but we still didn't have a name. So we were like, alright guys, we gotta fucking figure this out. Isn't that like a Jethro Tull kind of story?

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Right there.

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Let me give you a piece of advice for the future.

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And that's if you ever find yourself in that position,

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again,

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choose the name lost dog because,

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you know,

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think of all the free advertising.

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You put the posters everywhere.

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It's awesome.

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That's right.

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Now this guy,

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this man lost dog.

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Everybody's talking about it.

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It's fine.

00:51:26.930 --> 00:51:27.640
They're in this,

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uh,

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these guys will know,

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but in this area,

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there's a chain of like pizza restaurant places called lost dog cafe.

00:51:34.110 --> 00:51:34.560
Is that right?

00:51:34.790 --> 00:51:34.920
Yeah.

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I'm not familiar with that.

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Yeah.

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Good sandwiches.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's mostly in Northern Virginia.

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I wouldn't go there.

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And where are you guys actually?

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What town are you guys in?

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Are you all in different towns?

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I guess three of us are basically Alexandria.

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And Tommy is out closer to Chantilly.

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I'm in Manassas now.

00:51:55.060 --> 00:51:55.460
Manassas.

00:51:55.540 --> 00:51:56.240
Manassas.

00:51:57.520 --> 00:51:58.740
I was in Manassas.

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And I went to Chantilly.

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Then I was actually living in Baltimore for the last almost year.

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Sorry.

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With my girlfriend.

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Yeah, I know.

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No, it's a cool place.

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But we split up and now I'm back. No one ever. Yeah. Well, this guy. Baltimore is more than the black album is Baltimore. Baltimore is a cesspool of shit and death. The crime, the crime caps are rent cheap. So I can't really. Oh, there you go. I feel like, Kerry, like you're from someplace up north, though, just based on your accent. I could be wrong. I mean, are you from Virginia? Yeah, I was actually born in Loudoun County. But my mom's side of the family, I guess, for what it's worth, is from Buffalo, New York. So I could creep in. I just feel like there's some almost some boots creeping out there.

00:52:38.000 --> 00:53:07.960
There was something they just said of all that. And I was like, oh, you're from Michigan or something. Hey, I'm from Michigan. My mom's family is from Buffalo, too. So I grew up in Syracuse. Okay, cool. Hey, we'll cut this off. Hey, we'll cut this out here. But hey, where are you in Alexandria, Carrie? We're in Brent. We're like in Frankonia area. A mile from the Kingstown Plaza. Oh, okay. Like off Van Doren? Off Frankonia Road. Yeah, right where

00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:37.380
Van Dorn and Franconia Road meet. Oh, okay. If we were really good at throwing rocks, maybe hit that intersection. Is that near? That's north of where Topgolf is, right? Yeah, just a hair. I don't know that area very well. Anywhere near Jax where that was? No. Well, I mean, not that far. All I know is Springfield. Jax is way further west. Yeah, it's on the other side of 95. It's like straight west. Okay.

00:53:38.000 --> 00:54:06.140
Closer to Burke. I miss Jack's, though. Yeah. All right. And we're back. So what else do you guys want to talk about in this album? We're going to wrap up the actual interview portion here soon, so. But we can, by the way, we'll still be all over the map, so any other way. We'll come back to stuff. We have a script, but we just sort of use that as mile markers. We just do whatever the fuck we want. Yeah, yeah.

00:54:08.120 --> 00:54:35.580
Yeah. Tell us something interesting about. So yeah. Do you have a website? You're on Bandcamp. You got merch. You're doing a second pressing of CDs. I think you ran out of t-shirts because we. Bought them all. We bought them all. We never did a t-shirt and beard check, did we? We didn't. No, I told you to work that in and you didn't do it. Just did. Let them answer the question. Yeah, yeah. We'll do it next.

00:54:38.000 --> 00:55:07.400
Now we're in the stage of evaluating what merch to do next. Oh, cool. Vinyl. Masks. We'd love to do a vinyl pressing. That's a big priority. We're figuring out how to get that done. Cassettes, because for some shitty reason, people are into that crap again. Yeah, but if you press like 50 of those things, you'll sell them out really fast. You'll get your money back at least. Yeah, they're cheap to make, fortunately.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What's that? It was Falls Church, but I think they are in Alexandria now, I thought. Yeah, there's a big giant vinyl pressing. Yeah. So, guys, tell us where we can find Sculder. Yeah, I guess our landing zone is pretty much our band camp. So, that's pretty much where you would go to find. I mean, we have had our album on Name Your Price pretty much the whole time. So, you can have it. Yeah, there's CDs available there. But yeah, I mean, we're pretty much on the end.

00:56:02.240 --> 00:56:31.840
Available major streaming platform. So if you're Spotify or Amazon, whatever, you know, Deezer, like all the big ones, really. So they are also on Facebook. Follow on Facebook. We got a Facebook. Again, we're sold out of T-shirts right now. We haven't decided whether slash what we're going to get. We bought all three of them. So you should probably make more than three at a time. Yeah. Next time we'll make more. That was dumb. It's kind of hard to gauge since we're not putting live shows how much and what merch we should make, you know?

00:56:32.240 --> 00:57:02.220
Yeah, you don't know. Put that album cover on a shirt. Or is it on the shirt? It is on the shirt. Okay. On the shirt, yeah. But we'll have some vinyl and cassettes and patches coming up as well. Patches. Find all that shit on our band camp. So here's a question for you. Since you have it at Name Your Price, does anyone just get it for free or for a penny? Yeah. Not many, though, surprisingly. People are usually pretty generous. That's nice to hear.

00:57:03.420 --> 00:57:32.020
There was one guy that bought it for $6.66, which I really appreciated. That's cool. Hey, Carrie, you're the bassist, is that correct? How many strings are on that fucking bass, man? Yeah, six. Whoa. I'm looking at the Facebook page. That's a guitar, you know that, right? That was overlooked. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean, Tommy mentioned this earlier, but since I didn't play bass before or anything, I didn't, like,

00:57:32.560 --> 00:58:00.900
Obviously, I didn't have a bass, and that was the only reason that I suggested that I would give it a whirl. And you just jumped straight to six? Well, no, so it was legitimately, we had a former roommate who was a really, really good bassist from high school, I guess. That was about when he stopped. But he got into Berklee College of Music and stuff and then didn't go like a retard. Actually a genius. Yeah, incredibly good. He prefers to be called Special.

00:58:02.160 --> 00:58:02.280
artist.

00:58:03.420 --> 00:58:03.500
Yeah.

00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:14.140
No, he was a, yeah, just formerly lived with us, an old friend or whatever, but he moved out and didn't take his base. So I was just like thinking, well, there's this base in our closet.

00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:14.800
Right.

00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:20.980
So yeah, I mean, I would not buy a six string base, but it's what I have.

00:58:23.099 --> 00:58:26.440
Do you use it more like a traditional four string base or are you using all six strings?

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I technically have used all six. I do use the bottom string pretty routinely, so I'm planning on replacing it with a five at some point soon. I'd kind of like to do that before we play live again, just so I don't look like such a ding dong. Oh, you don't look like it. No, no, no. You don't at all. That's not why I brought it up. In fact, it's kind of cool. You know who else? With all that corpse paint on and your shirt off, no one's looking at your base, dude. That's right. I try to tell him that all the time. It's all nipples. That was really all I was looking at.

00:58:59.180 --> 00:59:27.060
And not because I'm attracted to them, but because I'm like, he shows them in public. I would never show mine in public. In your full war paint, too, and under a green light there, I think probably at, that might be at Atlas. He really called to mind the front guy from 1349. Yes. You get that? You've heard that before? No. You need to get those giant stone gauntlets

00:59:27.080 --> 00:59:56.980
that he wears. Yeah. I'm actually disappointed you're not in coarse paint now. Think about that. This is a podcast. Isn't this an audio podcast? Yeah. Well, we did have one guy. Necrosexual. Necrosexual. Yeah, that's right. But you guys can entertain us. Can you guys give us like 10 minutes? We can. I would totally do that. The best part about playing at Atlas is there's a dedicated bathroom in the back with a big,

00:59:56.980 --> 01:00:26.960
It actually has a mirror. Yeah. A lot of the venues didn't have mirrors or the menus were totally plastered with stickers. So we had some trouble putting our makeup on. Yeah. You know, we now own mirrors that we carry with us. Do you really? You really do? Just like kids. We played at such shitty places. Like what the fuck? Some of those, uh, like this Maryland or Rockville shows or whatever. I mean, like bless the satanic Hispanics. I fucking love them, but goddamn, like they've put a

01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:28.640
in some just hilarious venues like

01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:30.940
where are in rockville mexican restaurants

01:00:31.070 --> 01:00:33.960
and stuff like they're tiny little mexican

01:00:34.020 --> 01:00:35.880
restaurants like yeah where have you played

01:00:35.940 --> 01:00:39.560
in rockville um let's see well we i don't

01:00:39.590 --> 01:00:41.020
think we played in rockville okay

01:00:41.450 --> 01:00:42.600
no that's silver spring

01:00:45.520 --> 01:00:47.660
okay i like that that was just a randomized

01:00:48.100 --> 01:00:50.340
representative well see i work in rockville

01:00:50.780 --> 01:00:52.600
and i'm like i have no idea of anywhere to

01:00:52.680 --> 01:00:54.320
go on rockville to see a show i'm like

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They're not venues, they're restaurants. Yeah, you need to start checking Mexican restaurants. Well, there's a couple of good Mexican restaurants in the area. I totally envision Scalder just checking into the show with fanny packs full of makeup. It's great. No, we're not that ipsed here. We don't have a fucking shirt. You know, before we move on to, I really want to circle back to Harry's last name. What is the, because I honestly thought you just put some funny screen name up. You know what I mean? Like, no offense that's funny, but I mean, and then what is like the, where does that come from?

01:01:24.839 --> 01:01:53.560
What's your origin? Family origin was from Scotland, but it's an English name. Say no more, dude. Okay, I got it. I can fill the rest of myself. There you go. Might as well be, what's the word? What's that terrible thing they eat? Haggis. I mean, that's about the coolest last name you could have, honestly. It is, and I wasn't trying to cut you off, but yeah, Scottish, I get it. Like, it's totally got a Scottish origin. I could see that. It's pretty weird. Middle school interesting. What's that?

01:01:54.320 --> 01:02:23.780
It made middle school interesting. I bet it did. Actually, I didn't mean to cut you off. You said it started in Scotland and then it goes to... I guess somewhere deep in its origin was English, but my family lineage is from Scotland as far back as we can trace it. Gotcha. Cool. That's what strikes me as a very Scottish name. I've never heard that as a last name. Not once. And me neither. Yeah. Alrighty then. Scooting down the line.

01:02:24.340 --> 01:02:51.960
How about we take five, take a break, and then get on to the rest of the episode? And then, but we will always circle back with more. Yeah, well, at the end, we always go and pimp it again and be like, go check it out here, blah, blah, blah. But we should start with t-shirt and beer check. Yes, sir. All right. Take five. Yep. You're listening to the Metal Heads podcast. Would you like fries with that? John, I was wearing enslaved yesterday.

01:02:59.439 --> 01:03:24.160
The festival where we raced into buildings together. Fuck you guys. They ran out of shirts for me. Fuck you. Yeah. Let's relive. Oh my God. That was, I mean, I loved every moment of that weekend, but that was definitely a high point. What was? Fuck you. John and I would race. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. I don't even know how it started, but I don't either.

01:03:24.720 --> 01:03:53.760
I do remember driving by in a cab and just hanging out the one on a gallon. Fuck yourself really loud as our cab drove by you. That's right. I was in that cab. The cab driver's just kind of like, what the fuck? Yeah. Oh yeah, we know that guy. Yeah. He's cool. That's cool. I know. The one that sticks in my head is when you got into decibel first and you just kind of, you guys were walking and you made the moment just to stop and turn on, hey Matt, fuck you. Damn it. That should just be like,

01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:55.220
going forward.

01:03:56.700 --> 01:04:01.480
I was so looking to that in April and I am continuing to look forward to that in April of

01:04:01.680 --> 01:04:03.140
which year 22,

01:04:03.640 --> 01:04:04.880
it ain't happening next year.

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And I hate to say it,

01:04:06.180 --> 01:04:06.320
Matt,

01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:07.780
but that Vakan ain't happening either.

01:04:08.900 --> 01:04:09.780
I'm stressing about that.

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Today's a shitty day for me,

01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:11.780
but Hey,

01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:13.440
they do eventually give you your money back.

01:04:13.500 --> 01:04:15.220
I finally got my money back for this year.

01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:16.260
Did you really?

01:04:16.460 --> 01:04:16.580
Yeah.

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I say we hang onto our tickets.

01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:19.480
Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, we'll just go when we go. I like your RV idea. Yeah, I think we need an RV because fuck those tents. That was fucked. Hey, is anyone planning on anyone going to Psycho Las Vegas? I wish. I wish. Thought about it like last year. I know Jay's thought about it. I was going to go this year, but obviously they postponed it. Merciful Fate was going to be there, right?

01:04:49.500 --> 01:05:19.160
Yeah. Because we were like all merciful fates playing Valken. We're going to Valken. Get Valken tickets. And then it's like, oh, they're playing in fucking Vegas. Emperor, Mayhem, and Satyricon. Son of a bitch. They're all playing. Oh my God. And then a shit ton of other great Black Metal bands. Over. Oh man, you motherfucker. Over. I totally blew that on my top three. Satyricon is actually probably in my top three Black Metal bands. I fucking love those guys. Yeah, me too, for sure. What's your favorite Satyricon album?

01:05:21.720 --> 01:05:48.980
Come on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mine's nemesis Davina. Yeah. That was my first. I always love my first that, but I, for whatever reason, dark medieval times just fucking, I mean, that's so fucking raw and like, like it's like, got like Casio keyboards on it and shit. Yeah. And like those little like flute interleaving. Yeah. I'm like, oh, so fucking good. But otherwise nemesis Davina. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of a shitty show experiences right now,

01:05:50.020 --> 01:06:19.020
I'm supposed to be in Atlanta watching Eson. Yeah. Yeah. He's supposed to be on stage right now. Oh, really? Like, why would that be a shitty show? Because he's not there. I'm not there. Oh, oh, oh. He's going to play like shit. No. Was that just a lone US show? I know he was going to do the Emperor. No, it's he was one of the main acts for this year's Prague Power. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. That was the main reason.

01:06:19.520 --> 01:06:21.780
I went to Vaken was to see Emperor do anthems.

01:06:22.560 --> 01:06:22.680
Yeah.

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And me and Chris from.

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Oh, that moment they played all the way through, yeah.

01:06:25.660 --> 01:06:31.580
Yeah, me and Chris from Infero Brewer were like relatively close to the stage.

01:06:32.160 --> 01:06:33.280
And we're just looking at each other.

01:06:33.420 --> 01:06:35.120
We're just like tears streaming down their eyes.

01:06:35.260 --> 01:06:36.780
We're like, Emperor Brewer!

01:06:37.260 --> 01:06:41.500
You know, I think they're doing some, the next one is some sort of anniversary thing.

01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:42.340
I heard that.

01:06:42.340 --> 01:06:43.560
They already confirmed for 2020.

01:06:43.940 --> 01:06:46.240
And it was, I'll look it up in the back.

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I saw him the last time he came to the States and he was fucking awesome. So good. Yeah. It's still a bucket list one, unfortunately, just because of that. Yeah. Yeah. I had a chance to go see them at Jack's. God damn it. And I was like, I don't feel like driving all the way to Virginia tonight. I'm not going to go. And then they fucking broke up and you know. Yeah. Yeah. I miss Jack. Yeah. Totally.

01:07:17.180 --> 01:07:19.080
- It was just a shithole little closet.

01:07:19.080 --> 01:07:20.200
- It was a shithole.

01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:21.460
- God, it sucked really bad.

01:07:21.550 --> 01:07:22.320
- But like, man.

01:07:22.720 --> 01:07:24.940
- I saw so many big bands there, it's crazy.

01:07:25.020 --> 01:07:25.860
- Yeah, no shit, man.

01:07:25.930 --> 01:07:28.800
- I mean, it was like, we missed this show,

01:07:29.140 --> 01:07:30.760
the Opeth Nevermore show.

01:07:31.380 --> 01:07:33.220
- Oh, fuck. I saw them there.

01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:35.580
- I saw them there like at least once or twice.

01:07:35.940 --> 01:07:36.100
- Yeah.

01:07:36.180 --> 01:07:37.940
- I actually saw them there on the Ghost Reveries tour.

01:07:38.020 --> 01:07:40.800
They decided to do a small club early gig thing.

01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:41.880
And I saw them there.

01:07:42.080 --> 01:07:43.380
- I saw King Diamond there.

01:07:43.900 --> 01:07:45.060
- The Nevermore show though,

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That would have been the first OPEF tour in the United States too. They turned with them several times, but their first full tour was with Nevermore. But then when they came back, they had lined a Nevermore open for them. That's a cool tour though. That was Dreaming the On Black and Blackwater Park. That's a good. Jay, I saw them when Nevermore was doing the Endeavor tour. I think I went to like seven or eight shows. That tour was unreal how good it was.

01:08:15.240 --> 01:08:45.200
You're a fan of that record, Kerry? Yes. It's their best record. I think it's one of the best post-2000 metal records. You're talking about Nevermore? I totally agree. I've never been a Nevermore fan, but I love Sanctuary. Sanctuary's cool, too. Yeah, like the first two albums, and the Reunion album was cool. But Matt and I don't know if Matt stuck around to watch it, but we saw...

01:08:45.220 --> 01:09:15.200
Sanctuary at Valken like six months before he died. Before he died, yeah. Rip in peace, World Aid. Yeah, for sure, dude. Yeah, that was a sad. And it was like a 30-year thing for me because I saw Sanctuary on the Refuge Denied tour in 87. I don't know. Because it was like a 30, it had to be 30 years. So it had to be 87. I saw him with both World and the new guy who took over for him. And so for me, it was just like this amazing thing of like, I saw them on

01:09:15.240 --> 01:09:44.799
Refuge Denied way back in the 80s. And then here he is at Valken in front of me 30 years later. And it was like, and then he died and it was like. So I was kicking myself even more. By the way, nice name change on your Zoom. Thank you. I'm trying to recall what band I was watching when you were watching Sanctuary. And I'm pretty sure I'm going to end up punching myself again because I don't think. I'm pretty sure I was the only one there. All the rest of you fuckers wandered off to like,

01:09:45.279 --> 01:10:14.880
other things. Yeah. Was it, it was when it was raining? Yes, it was. Fuck. I still, I still put on this guy, this never every couple of times. Yeah. Yeah. All the time. Actually. I don't know why I'm not a never more fan. Cause I love sanctuary to death. They put the, this guy listened to ever on vinyl on a new version of it. Not too long ago. A couple of years ago. Yeah. I got it too. It's great. I got it too. Thanks to Jay. I'll give you my old one. You actually have the original press, which I actually spent a few extra bucks for, to be honest with you. But I had two. So it's like,

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John is my fellow devotee to that album on this pod. Absolutely, yeah. I love all their stuff, but that's my favorite from them. That's the one. That's the one. Their last album sucks a lot. I don't like it, dude. You know what? I put it on again. It's a couple okay songs, but yeah, it's a far cry from their other stuff. I mean, do you like it? The Chairs Downstairs song is just like... Does anybody like the first Nevermore album? Because that was kind of, I like, I got it. I liked everything up to This God is Never. I bought the first one and I was like, this is...

01:10:45.240 --> 01:11:15.200
It's not like Sanctuary. And I just like never looked back. But what you're talking about is Obsidian Conspiracy. And it does suck. Like it's such a fall from grace. But I would say something. World Dane's solo album was actually pretty fucking good. That was a better album. Yeah. Jeff Loomis' solo records during that era were also really good. Yeah. I'm partial to Dead Heart. Dead Heart's right, too. Not a bad choice. That's when I came into the band. So you guys are from Northern Virginia. Last quick question before we get started. Did you ever see Nevermore when Chris Barata

01:11:15.220 --> 01:11:44.840
was in the band with Jeff Loomis. Unfortunately not. I missed that shot. What tour was it? Who were they with? The Godless Endeavor, but he took over, was it Pat Smith or somebody got sick and couldn't do the tour. Because I saw them like several times as openers for people and I was just like. And I was at, I think I was at an Opus show or something somewhere else for something else and I couldn't go that night and they played Jax and I was like, you gotta be fucking kidding me. It's Chris Broad. I love that guy.

01:11:46.060 --> 01:12:14.560
He's one of the best. He's so good. Incredible player. All right. And we are back. And let us, before we continue, do the t-shirt and beer check. Yeah. Which is an extension of the merch talk. Exactly. Specifically for this episode. We're going to start with the guys in the band. You can go in whatever order you choose. I know you're not all chomping at the bit to be the first. So carry, go first.

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So t-shirt first or beer first? What do you guys want? It doesn't matter. Okay, cool. Well, I got the false t-shirt. Oh, nice. Also, rip false. I guess those guys broke up. Yeah, they did. Somebody was like, bad in that band. Yeah, you hate to see it, but at the same time, I don't know. What else do you do? I definitely have to respect their move. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just that really fucking blows because their most recent album,

01:12:45.180 --> 01:13:14.060
was super good. It was. Yes. Portent was just like, I don't know, I guess I got this shirt at Atlas. I just kind of randomly saw them, you know, one of those nights where I was just, you know, cleaning up late or something, had a couple extra beers and I was like, dude, there's a metal show tonight. Hell yeah. And then it was just, yeah, false. And I was kind of even, I don't know, getting more and more into black metal at that point, but just like, just standing in front of this dude's like, you know, there's not that many people at the show, just like watching their drummer even. I was like, how fast is this guy playing? Like, this is insane.

01:13:15.060 --> 01:13:16.100
incredible live performance.

01:13:18.260 --> 01:13:21.020
And they're a local band for me, so I got to see them like five, six times.

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I mean, I've blown away every time.

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So yeah, it's kind of a bummer to hear they broke up.

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Yeah, definitely sad.

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Drinking anything?

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Why? Yes.

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Coors Light? No, just kidding.

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Actually, earlier I was.

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Wait, you're not drinking Coors Light for once?

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Ooh.

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I guess it's a double but 7.4% IPA from RAR who is out of Maryland. I was looking at that today. I'd recommend it. I mean this was canned like late July so yeah figured it was the freshest thing at the store. Pretty decent. Right on. Let's go with Harry. Well I am wearing a Never Fall shirt and these guys are a band that we played with.

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this spectacular venue called the poorhouse in Norfolk. Oh, I know that. Okay. Oh, I've been there. Yeah. Absolutely. I can honestly, I have never in my fucking life been to a place quite like that before. That's just a singular experience, but we had a great time. The guys in this band were great. We played with them with serpent shrine. Um, just a really, really good night. And that was one of the last shows I think that we played. So,

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So, very fond, very strange memories of that evening. But yeah, poorhouse, great place. Really good venue for local black metal down in Norfolk. So it's good stuff. You know what's funny is I was stationed in Norfolk for three years in the Marine Corps. And I've been to the poorhouse many, many times. I never once saw a show in Norfolk. That's like the metal capital of Virginia outside of Richmond. I don't know.

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There was never a show.

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Yeah.

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All right, Tommy.

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I've got a power trip shirt on.

01:15:23.080 --> 01:15:23.740
Oh, nice.

01:15:24.200 --> 01:15:26.780
From their tour in 2017.

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So I'm in Baltimore at Soundstage when they opened for Exodus.

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Nice.

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And I didn't know who power trip was going into that show.

01:15:38.430 --> 01:15:39.920
I just, I was going to see Exodus.

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And I actually ended up liking Power Trip, I think, more than Exodus that night. They were fucking amazing. Was that a Zetro show or the Dukes guy? Rob Dukes. It would have been Zetro. He's been back since Power Trip started to be that. Yeah, yeah. The way Gary Holt put a really nice tribute to him on his... I haven't seen that. Yeah, it was nice. And it was very clear he really liked the guy and thought highly of their band and so on and so forth. So it was one of the nicer tributes I saw after

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Yeah, that's really sad to hear. Wait, who died? The vocalist of Power Trip died. Oh, okay, sorry. Riley Gale. Yeah, you might want to check out the news item. No, no, no, sorry. I knew the guy from Power Trip died, but the way you were saying it, either Zetro died or Dukes died. Okay, gotcha. Sorry, Will. All right.

01:16:42.660 --> 01:17:10.560
I was going to say, great fucking band. That's all. What are you drinking? Oh, good question. I'm drinking some Dogfish Head 90 Minute, which is my go-to. And for anyone out there that hasn't tried Dogfish Head 120 Minute. That's some shit. Best fucking beer in the world. It's like $20 a bottle. It's 18%. Yeah. And it's limited.

01:17:11.280 --> 01:17:40.440
We got like 12 crawlers of it from their brew pub, which is like 400 bucks. The point is, just go drink it. That is some strong shit. That is good. I actually prefer the 90 to the 120. I mean, this is obviously more drinkable. It's still like 9%. It's really high. But the 120 minutes, like three or four beers in this bottle. It is. And it's good.

01:17:40.720 --> 01:18:09.340
Tastes good. Yeah. I like dogfish a lot. All right, Brent. I am rocking an Opeth shirt. This is from the last concert that I attended also at the Fillmore. I guess Carrie and I. It was right before COVID hit. Oh, I remember that. Were you at that show? March or something. I was there. I was there at the Metal Butler. Yeah. Metalheads Butler, I should say.

01:18:13.020 --> 01:18:40.640
Awesome show. Always is. I mean, despite their transition from being a metal band to being a prog rock band, I'm always going to love those guys. Yeah, Carrie and I have known each other for many, many years, and this is one of the first metal bands. Actually, it's the metal band that got me into heavy vocals. Before that, it was all Dream Theater and Judas Priest and shit like that. When they went to Prague direction, and this is relevant,

01:18:40.900 --> 01:19:10.600
to me, but I didn't follow them too much, meaning when they dropped the vocals. But I love the last record. That was fucking great. Put it on my year-end list. I think it's my favorite post-partnership album. Oh, definitely. Oh, yeah. That was great. And I still listen to that, too. That guy has a great fucking record. So many good songs on there. You know, that's a top five we should do is top five bands that got us into harsh vocals. That would be interesting. I could definitely do that. That would be cool. I mean, honestly, Rob Halford was the heaviest,

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I heard Painkiller and that just blew me away. I had never heard anything like that in, you know, whatever year that was, 2003, I think. I heard Scream Bloody Gore when it first came out. I was like, what the fuck is this? Painkiller came out in 91. Sorry, yeah, 91. I first heard it in 2003. Oh, okay. That was my introduction to that. Before that, it was, I just listened to the Black Album.

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So before we move on here, to be clear, are you pro or anti-black album? I'm indifferent. I mean, I like other Metallica albums much more. I just think that... But you're not anti. I wouldn't say so. All right. Then... Or tonight he is. Then you're my... You're in my camp then. Just to be clear. My beer is Founder's Mosaic Promise for anyone who's wondering.

01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:40.400
All right. All right. So then Markisan double pants. Everybody's got no pants as their name. So I had to J that and go double pants. I've got a Campbell courts. Sure. I believe it's from the decimal baseball team. And it's from, I think it's the decimal tour. It might've been last year or 2018. I can't remember actually. And then I finished a brimming horn.

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The Notorious F.I.G. I had that last time. That's good. Fig mead with buckwheat, honey, figs, cocoa nibs, cinnamon, cardamom. That's really good. And now I'm drinking the Eclipse BKR, early aged imperial stout. Love it. This thing doesn't work with my background, but those 50 50s are all great. Yeah, this is my last one, John. I only break it out for special occasions.

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This is not a market here. You need to set up a venue.

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that brings in metal bands. Are you cool with Carrie sitting on your lap on the plane? Also, I gotta tell you, I never feel sorry for you, Marcus. I don't want anybody in Hawaii to be like, oh, woe is me. I don't think there's a better, there's not a better place to be right now. You guys aren't even, are you? But I hear what you're missing. We signed a lease for another year. There you go. We haven't even been here a year. I moved from Chicago. I'm from upstate New York, but

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I lived in Chicago for 20 years and then we came out here. So we signed the lease for another year and then we'll see what happens. But it's a pretty nice place to be, especially with everything going on. I bet. Yeah. Hopefully you stay long enough that we can come out there and see you because that is on our to do list is to come out there and see you. That'd be awesome. All right, then, Matt. Rocking my Scalder shirt, which fits fucking perfectly. And beer wise, I'm wrapping up. It's called Sink.

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Sanctimonious enmity. The brewery is Adroit the Ori. Adroit theory. Fucking good. You know, we don't have to whip out any dirty laundry here, but what happened with them? Dude, there's this, I'm friends with Todd Haug's wife for some reason on Facebook, partially because she's kind of hot. But then also, I mean, but there was a big shake up there or something. Where? What are you talking about? Adroit theory? Huh. Todd does not work on the draft. Todd's at three floors.

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No, I know that. I'll go to her Facebook page and tell you that there was some other thing. And I know exactly where Todd is. Can I step back one second, though? Just to be clear, I am pro side two of the Black Album, except for Nothing Else Matters. Side one, not so much. Isn't that on the first side? No, that's a second song on the second side. But that second side, I played Tecmo Super Bowl. Don't tread on me on there. Side one.

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I like it all except for I don't know there's maybe one or two that I'm I'll skip but on the whole I like the black album you know you you give me interesting or I'm sorry uh of Wolf and Man God That Failed My Friend in Misery Struggle Within that's good stuff too absolutely I I have I have personal I mean I know people are like uh uh what's the one uh the the fucking the

01:24:10.320 --> 01:24:39.780
Unforgiven? Well, I mean, I love The Unforgiven because that is so my, that's my fucking song. But the other one, the Wherever I May Roam, people bitch about that. But when that came out, I was like living on couches. I was fucking homeless and just like, you know, staying with friends and like in a very bad way. And Wherever I May Roam fucking resonated with me. And so I will always love that song. You're literally taking two years off of Will's life with this discussion.

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I wish the listeners could hear Will's eyes rolling. I don't fucking care, man. At the time, it fucking made sense to me. I'll change the subjects and just say it was Surly I was talking about. That's old news. Todd left Surly a long time ago. Shut the fuck up, Jay. I'm just kidding, dude. It's not about Todd. All I'm saying is there was some big layoff there.

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What happened was they announced that the employees announced that they were going to unionize. A few days later, they said they're going to close the brewery or the brew pub starting November 1st indefinitely. A lot of people are trying to tie those two events together. They're saying that they chose to shut it down previously. Thank you, Matt. That's helpful. She had an interest in this. His wife was talking about this because she thinks it's a fucked situation.

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It's interesting because three floys, I think, closed their brew pub. So what does this have to do with the droid theory? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. And to be clear, the brewery I was talking about was adroit theory. I don't know where this is. Mark Osborne, a droid theory, the man. All right. Mark does listen to this occasionally, so I was getting a little nervous. Mark, thank you for always shipping my shit quickly. Appreciate it. Fucking the droid theory is the best. Hands down. I fucking like this guy.

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I'm right here.

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Carrie is right here.

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Yeah.

01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:13.840
Well,

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but neither of you are technically Atlas anymore.

01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:16.800
So.

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Whoa,

01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:18.700
whoa,

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whoa.

01:26:19.860 --> 01:26:20.260
Well,

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I mean,

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you're not making beer.

01:26:22.460 --> 01:26:22.680
Whoa.

01:26:23.120 --> 01:26:23.280
No.

01:26:24.120 --> 01:26:25.280
I feel like you're still brewer emeritus.

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I don't know,

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man.

01:26:26.120 --> 01:26:26.280
Yeah.

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All right.

01:26:28.120 --> 01:26:28.180
Well,

01:26:28.240 --> 01:26:28.540
I mean,

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I like Atlas.

01:26:29.480 --> 01:26:30.360
I ain't going to dis Atlas,

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but fucking better not.

01:26:32.160 --> 01:26:32.480
Cause I'll,

01:26:32.760 --> 01:26:34.200
I'll gouge out your eyes and go.

01:26:34.440 --> 01:26:34.900
Fuck you.

01:26:35.340 --> 01:26:36.700
As long as you're putting on shows,

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I'll be there.

01:26:37.960 --> 01:26:38.340
Why?

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What are you wearing? What are you drinking? I want to make two PSAs first. Will, shut the fuck up about the Black Album. I'm sick of talking about it every episode because you say your piece and everyone else goes off about how they like it or dislike it. I barely said a thing about it. I fucking hate it. Move on. Two, let's just get them all out of the way. Scott Travis has been in Judas Priest for 30 years. The Hemeth cannot have kids singing on the albums anymore. UnderwaterAudio.com.

01:27:09.239 --> 01:27:38.320
And I heard odorous first. No, God damn it. You got that one wrong. All right. What am I wearing? Fuck you guys. I've got my enslaved. Oh, that's a new one. Cinematic Summer Tour t-shirt. Nice, John. Yes. I have that one coming. Basically, they're tours online. So, and I've had two beers. The first one was Close-Up Magic from Mass Landing Brewing. The second one I may have had last time we were on.

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It's called Bear Lasers from Hidden Springs Aleworks. Take a look. Can everyone see? What does that look like to you? Chopping mall. Shooting lasers out of a fucking eyeball. Chopping mall. Spraying cheese from its eyes. Shout out to Keithy. You need to send a picture of that to Keith. I will, yeah. Every time I drink it, I think of Keith. Keith should only drink that beer. Yeah, he should. But it should be like a yellow can because the cheese is just like milk.

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Melting all over. So it should come with cheese, real cheese. Yes. So if you haven't listened to the chopping mall on band camp, check it out. That would be a big four six pack with a lot of cheese there. It should come with like a side of cheese and like chips. So as per usual, I am saving my beer for the double header. I have to watch after I get off. Does it? We'll have to give us a shirt. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, oh yeah. So, uh, scalder got my scalder shirt and the new one, which does fit very nice. Um,

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And I am drinking the Trogues Brewing Company out of Harrisburg, Hershey, Pennsylvania. I like up in there. And their Trogues. That's a good one. It's one of my go-to fall beers, even though they make it year-round. You're going to kill me, but I love Lancaster Brewing as well from the region. And they have the Baked Pumpkin Ale, which I am not a pumpkin person in any country.

01:29:08.480 --> 01:29:38.440
other aspect, but the Lancaster Brewing baked pumpkin ale is fucking pumpkin pie in a bottle, and it is awesome, and we just picked up a case. I think of you as a peach, George. Huh? I think of you as a peach. You're not a pumpkin. You said I'm not a pumpkin person. Right, yeah. No, I'm definitely not a peach. You're a peach. But I think of you

01:29:38.480 --> 01:30:07.320
I have a doubleheader to watch after this. The beer can be open then. And you'll be pleased that I'm wearing my creator. Oh, nice. This is a cool shirt, too. I ordered it from their website just recently, and it's like this kind of stylized version of the cover. And it's not black. It's a really, really quality t-shirt. Is that like a green? So I can walk. I can walk out in the sun, man. Yeah. It's like an army green. Yeah, I've got an army green Aces High that I use for being outside. You're not wrong about that.

01:30:07.780 --> 01:30:37.300
There is no sun currently in California. You got me there, but... I just saw this. Well, just I have so well. Last week, just for you, or last episode, I wore my Endless Pain shirt for you. Nice. You weren't here, so I put my Pleasure to Kill shirt on for you. Nice. I love Korea. That's an unpopular opinion, but I always love when bands release shirts in something other than black. Oh, I do too. I usually got them right up. Yeah, me too. Truly. Whenever I see something worthwhile,

01:30:38.940 --> 01:31:07.720
Well, the one time I bought a Blued House Nord shirt in white, specifically to wear to Maryland Death Fest because it's outside. Well, it used to be outside and it was hot as fuck. I have a couple long-cleave white black metal shirts for the same reason. And so I wore my white Blued House Nord shirt to the Maryland Death Fest and what did I do? It turned fucking yellow from all the goddamn sweat. And now I can't wear it. I wear it once.

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And now it's done.

01:31:09.300 --> 01:31:10.760
So I don't know why you don't get any shit about that.

01:31:10.790 --> 01:31:13.280
Cause you may remember I wore a yellow shirt to that.

01:31:13.420 --> 01:31:15.800
And everybody gave me no end of shit on that.

01:31:15.940 --> 01:31:16.120
No,

01:31:16.210 --> 01:31:16.340
Jay,

01:31:16.420 --> 01:31:17.340
I actually liked that you worked.

01:31:17.470 --> 01:31:19.260
I could find you every time I needed to find you.

01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:23.040
I'm looking forward to the tie dye Scalder shirt.

01:31:23.540 --> 01:31:24.020
Oh God.

01:31:24.330 --> 01:31:24.420
No,

01:31:25.020 --> 01:31:25.740
maybe George.

01:31:25.930 --> 01:31:27.580
I don't know how you sweated that much.

01:31:27.580 --> 01:31:29.100
Cause you spent most of the time in the shade on,

01:31:29.280 --> 01:31:30.060
in the underpass.

01:31:32.980 --> 01:31:34.220
I was just waiting for that one.

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Under the bridge downtown.

01:31:36.740 --> 01:32:06.680
Not a lot of sunlight gets into the rehab, you know what I mean? George, what are you wearing? We're drinking. I also am wearing my Scaldor shirt. Yeah. And I started with, it's not in front of me, so I have to remember it, Nepente Brewing out of Baltimore. It was a double IPA called Queen Jellyfish. And now I am working on Old Mother Brewing,

01:32:06.760 --> 01:32:32.580
Brewing Company out of Frederick. Double Impressionist, double IPA. There's a lot of fucking beer coming out of Frederick, Maryland. There's literally like not two miles from my house, Mad Science Brewing that I had last time. There's a lot of fucking beer in Frederick, Maryland. Is it Flying Dog out of Frederick? Yeah, Flying Dog is like a couple miles from my house as well. It's a cool facility.

01:32:37.180 --> 01:33:05.600
stores that carry craft beer in Frederick. Like half the fucking beer there is local. Oh, you know, George, I was up in Napa a couple weeks ago and I went to Stone. I know that's one of your favorites. Oh, I love Stone, Eric. Pick some stuff up. I mean, what is that? I had outside seating, which I didn't stop and have a beer. I just bought some stuff to go, but I thought of you. Yeah, yeah. Stone is good. It's a beautiful building, too. It's a huge, great, big building in this really beautiful part of the town of Napa.

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In any case. All right. Time to move on. I guess we can do the news. Let's start with some happy. Oh, no, never mind. Nope, not going to happen. Oh, God. There's actually only three news items this time and two of them are not happy.

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mentioned in passing, power trip singer Riley Gale died at 34 from unknown causes. Previously unknown. We haven't heard yet, I guess, what it was. I checked again and still, you know, I don't know if it was fucking COVID or if it was some sort of overdose or who knows. Yeah, but they were much loved and I, and I really realized that when he died because the amount of musicians and other people who spoke up about him. I personally wasn't like a huge fan or anything like that. I thought they were okay. I wasn't either, but I, you know,

01:34:06.340 --> 01:34:36.200
I mean, I still went out and bought all the albums right afterward as just sort of an homage. Yeah. And I mean, because I was never a big fan, but I never disliked them either. Yeah, yeah. Me too. And not unlike probably everybody here, I only ever saw them open from someone. They toured with kind of everybody there for a few years. They were just like, if they could get on a tour, they were on it. So you were going to see them if you went to see Exodus or whoever it was. Yep. And 34.

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is just ridiculously young.

01:34:38.380 --> 01:34:38.740
It is.

01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:43.320
Oh, young y'all are, but that was a while ago for the rest of us.

01:34:45.040 --> 01:34:45.600
Oh, yeah.

01:34:46.260 --> 01:34:47.160
A while ago for Harry.

01:34:50.240 --> 01:34:51.000
Hey, now, be nice.

01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:52.520
Oh, don't worry.

01:34:52.740 --> 01:34:54.180
You're young amongst the rest of us.

01:34:54.400 --> 01:34:54.520
Yeah.

01:34:55.620 --> 01:34:56.620
Fucking kids, man.

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Probably not.

01:34:58.460 --> 01:34:59.640
No, he probably is.

01:35:00.700 --> 01:35:01.460
We'll cut this out.

01:35:01.460 --> 01:35:02.100
How old are you, Harry?

01:35:05.380 --> 01:35:06.680
Get the fuck out of here.

01:35:07.620 --> 01:35:08.820
Get the fuck out of here.

01:35:10.480 --> 01:35:11.320
Kids older than you.

01:35:12.060 --> 01:35:14.640
These fucking youngsters I'm playing music with,

01:35:14.740 --> 01:35:16.260
I'd like to bust my balls over that.

01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:18.760
We're all 7.50, so.

01:35:19.700 --> 01:35:24.040
I hate to have to run, but I'm hearing pig fucker giving my wife a pretty hard time.

01:35:24.260 --> 01:35:24.700
Yes, sir.

01:35:25.700 --> 01:35:26.760
Wait, can we keep that in?

01:35:26.920 --> 01:35:27.780
I want to keep that in.

01:35:29.840 --> 01:35:30.580
So I got to get going.

01:35:30.620 --> 01:35:34.620
But listen, I really, you know, huge amount of love for having us on here.

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We really appreciate you guys. Love what you're doing. And yeah, you'll be hearing some new stuff from us someday when the world stops being on fire, literally. All right, man. Thanks for coming on. Thanks, Aaron. Appreciate you guys. Be good. Take care. In regards to Pigfucker and your wife. Yes. Double congratulations to you, truly. Yeah. Appreciate it a lot, guys. All right. Next up, more deaths. Can I just say I'm glad he left.

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I felt like he was really bringing us all down.

01:36:06.260 --> 01:36:10.760
I was just nine people.

01:36:11.200 --> 01:36:11.620
It's so much.

01:36:13.840 --> 01:36:14.620
He just had to go.

01:36:14.840 --> 01:36:15.200
He had to go.

01:36:15.440 --> 01:36:15.520
You know,

01:36:16.940 --> 01:36:19.880
I'll take the center square for a hundred dollars.

01:36:20.520 --> 01:36:21.880
I'll take double pants for a hundred dollars.

01:36:23.500 --> 01:36:24.860
I'm more expensive than that.

01:36:26.180 --> 01:36:26.520
All right.

01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:26.840
So,

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uh,

01:36:27.580 --> 01:36:27.740
you know,

01:36:28.800 --> 01:36:33.040
this next one's another death and it happened like August.

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A couple weeks ago.

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It was,

01:36:34.480 --> 01:36:34.580
yeah,

01:36:34.620 --> 01:37:04.480
Yeah, it was a few weeks ago, and I don't know how I missed it. I only found out about this like a day or two ago, but Frankie Benali from Quiet Riot died at 68. He had pancreatic cancer. I mean, you knew it was coming, but I saw some sort of tribute to him on like Blabbermouth or something, and I was like, oh, yeah, that's really nice, but I didn't know he was dead. Yeah. You know who wrote the nicest tribute to him, and I mean it, and it was really worth reading, and I know you guys, some of the guys in the podcast,

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are fans of the early records, including me. Blackie Lawless wrote the nicest fucking thing about him. Oh, yeah? I'd like to read that. You should. Go to his Facebook or whatever the fuck it is. And he just, they were tight, dude. Like, he was, like, the first guy he met when he got off the bus. And I don't know if you remember, but Frankie, but I played on some of the late-era Wasp albums. But in any case, it was just such a nice story that just really was touching. You know why, Jay, that was nice is because there was a lot of just shit slinging around him, Frankie.

01:37:34.620 --> 01:37:38.980
those later years went quite right because all the band changes they were just

01:37:39.180 --> 01:37:43.900
everything going on and yeah it was becoming a blabbermouth kind of like a uh cory taylor

01:37:44.490 --> 01:37:49.340
thing every day it's like well what did frankie say and it's like oh my god i know that blabbermouth's

01:37:49.340 --> 01:37:56.320
the problem here but um no but he was it's nice to hear something positive indeed they were using him as

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one of those like oh this will make everybody pissed off because he did one interview and they they

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clip baited the whole fucking interview you know to go like with 10 different articles

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But you walk away from the black of your lawless thinking, A, this guy was a fucking prince. B, he was an excellent musician, like beyond what I kind of understood. He played with a lot of people. He did. He did. Yeah. So. Quiet Riot was one of my, or, you know, as an old fucker, representing the old fuckers, Quiet Riot back in the day, 83. They were huge. That was the shit, man. I fucking loved those first. Okay. I mean, the first two albums of the Randy Rose albums that don't really count.

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And then there's Metal Health and Condition Critical and QR3 and all of that shit's good. Surely you know what I'm going to lead you into here, which is they hold a distinct honor in the world of metal for having achieved something before everyone else. It was the first metal record to ever go to number one. Yeah. Really? And it was on a cover song. That's right. It's just the truth.

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They, their version of Come On, Fill the Noise, is an amazing cover. Which was a Slade song. Yeah, Slade song. Which they've covered twice, didn't they? Yeah, they also did Mama, We're All Crazy Now. We're All Crazy Now, yeah. You know, and I was momentarily put out by the fact that the band said, we're carrying on. I'm like, there's no fucking original members left. He wasn't even an original member. But they were like, you know, Chuck's been in the band. He was, he played

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He played on the first album and not Rudy Sarzo. Not that you're really holding their feet to the fire, but you know, I'll tell you another band for which there's no original member and you may be shocked by this. They palm death. There's no original members. Yeah. Yeah. And they're also the only band that has like 8,000 bands that derived from that first demo release, which will come up a little bit. That family tree goes crooked. That family tree's massive. But apparently Frankie was like, please,

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carry on. So I'm like, all right, if he says good, then fine. So by the way, Scaldor, we talk over each other a lot here, but you feel free to talk over us to jump in anytime you want. We're not. They're like quiet. Who? Hey, just, just real quick for you guys who were around when that album came out, given all the hair metal shit and the kind of pop metal that was out, I always felt like they weren't like that, but they also got the past because of the connection to Randy Rhodes that they were like,

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Well, no, they're cool because Randy Rhodes used to be with them, but they had still their own identity. Well, and Rudy Sarzo was in. Rudy Sarzo was part of them. And he went there from Ozzy, which was cool, you know? And so it was just like. It's interesting because a lot of bands, I mean, I know you guys like Rat, some of you, and they got either they were cool or they were just a shitty hair metal band. I fucking love Rat, man. Yeah, but Rat had some heavy stuff. Point being, they seem to kind of skirt a lot of all that negative talk from some of the stuff in the 80s. You realize.

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None of the Skaldar guys were even born when this shit came out. Yeah, you realize I was practically in high school or in college when that shit came out. It's funny, though, too. Actually, it's funny. I would put Wasp in that category, too. I fucking loved Wasp. When the first Wasp album came out, I was like, oh. Sure. It was like fucking razor blade codpiece and fucking we are sexual perverts. Dude, that was the shit. I mean, there was nothing else that

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I mean, okay, granted, I didn't know about Venom and stuff like in Celtic Frost at that point, but, you know. I did, but I still liked Wasp, and that's the truth. And he's a fucking great singer. I love his voice. I mean, when, this is fucking lame as shit, but in, like, my teen years, I had a hamster. And I named that motherfucker. I can't wait to see where this is going. Yeah.

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Did you name it Richard? No. It was an albino hamster and I named that motherfucker D Lawless after D Snyder and Blackie Lawless because I was a huge fucking Twisted Sister and Wasp fan. I named the hamster in South Park, Mr. Periwinkle or Perilinks or Lemmywinks. Lemmywinks. Well, let's move further down the news.

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I have one more news item and it's not as depressing in fact it's it's it's uplifting and it's not about George's hamster it's not about my hamster it's a little depressing I never abused that hamster in anal invasion so let's go no Armageddon oh well Jerry uh what was the guy from Philadelphia oh yeah Jerry Pettacoli yeah from channel six news there was a big yeah didn't he die in like a skydiving accident or something

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Yeah, sorry, George. I just saw the will in the hamster and I thought of Bill. Oh, yeah. He used to shove hamsters up his ass. Yeah. I mean, who doesn't do that? Anyway, moving on. Markzahn is just shaking his head going, triple pants. I don't. Triple pants. I got double pants, so no hamsters are getting in there. So, you know, we were hoping for a carcass album this year. We really were because we were hoping for a carcass album last year.

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last year.

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But no Carcass album this year. However,

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we can look forward to an EP

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titled Despicable,

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which will come out the day before Halloween on October 30th.

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Mm-hmm.

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Super released on 10-inch vinyl, by the way,

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which I pre-ordered and am very excited to get.

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I like it when you get an odd thing like that,

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a little odd-sizer.

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And I think we all agreed.

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I think we all agreed that the Rue Morgue thing

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or whatever it was, or Manchester Morgue. It's a pretty cool tune. I like this. And I think Under the Scalpel Blade is on there as well. There's four tracks total, I think. Yeah, and if the Rue Morgue thing is a throwaway, because that's what they said. They were like, yeah, these are things that just didn't make it to the record. And I'm like, nah, it didn't make it on the record. This record's going to fucking rule. Yeah. If I have an EP on my year-end list and you guys don't like it, I don't give a shit. I'll back you up. I'll back you up. Well, we'll have an EP list, I'm sure. Because, you know,

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Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Of course, there's going to be an AP list. Put it on your list. I'll be there with you. Thank you. Of course, I have inside knowledge on that camp as well. But I'm not talking about it. Hey, by the way, have we not gotten an Uada promo? We have not yet. Who are they with? There's a reason for that. It could be. Eisenwald. Yeah, fuck them. They don't fucking give us promos. They don't. I think Eisenwald is actually not shipping.

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the US right now. You know, hey, that's funny. You said that I ordered some stuff via Discog. And for the first time in the whole shutdown, I got things back from Discogs. Just individual sellers were like, hey, dude, I'll take your money right now if you want or I'll refund you. But here in Greece, we're not allowed to shift to the US right now. So that's happening in a few different places now. Yeah. Eisenwald is Germany. Eisenwald is Germany. Yeah. Yeah. Germany's not shipping. I tried to order some stuff on Discogs from Germany and they're like, no.

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We're not going to do this. Maybe that was Obama. Why the fuck? He's done it again. What's that all about? What about COVID is keeping stuff from coming in this direction? They just have some kind of regulations from the government that they can't do it. You don't want your European fucking COVID viruses coming in on packages. I said it was Greece, but it was probably Germany. Mine too. There's probably a lot of countries though.

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Right. By way of Spain. Yeah. So in any case, well, Rats, I've been meaning to ask you that, George. I'm really looking forward to hearing that record. It's still kind of far out there as far as the release date goes. Next month, isn't it? October? November. Because I just bought the vinyl on this. Shipping at the end of this month. Yeah. That's this month, isn't it? Yeah. Like a couple of weeks. That's pretty soon. I mean, it's already the 12th. It has to be like really soon, I think. Yeah. I mean, just blink a couple

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times and it'll be October. Yeah. Every fucking day is the same as the last fucking day. Oh, you're right. September 25th. All right, good. I'm glad I misspoke because that's not that far down the road at all. That's 13 days from now. Usually I would put stuff when I do new releases, I usually do a couple weeks behind and a couple weeks ahead because, you know, we tend to only do like a monthly thing. But I missed a whole bunch of shit for new releases this time. So you guys, are you?

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Scaldorfellas Carcass fans, would you? Is that something you'd be looking forward to? I'm a fan of their drummer. Fair enough. Dan Wilding, right? Yeah. He looks like he's a funny guy, too. He always seems to be smiling. He's a good dude, yeah. He's a great drummer. I follow him on Instagram and watch all his videos and shit. Cool. But, uh, yeah. All right. Well, that's it for news. Let's move on to some new releases.

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First up, we have the new aborted fetus album, Pyramids of Damnation. This is the seventh album from a Russian brutal death metal band. They're Russian? Yeah, I didn't think they were Russian either, but apparently they're Russian. I did not know that. And this album is very Egyptian. They're taking a Nile path on this one.

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There's a lot of Egyptian shit. Pyramids, I mean. But, and, and. Aliens. Yeah, well, I noticed, I noticed, I'm going to pull up the album here. I thought they might have been doing the whole mine thing. They seem to have a lot of like, plaguey kind of stuff, because track three is called Execution by Toads. Track four is Invasion of Bloodsucking Insects. I like that you just coined the term plaguey, by the way, this is new, and I'm using it.

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in this from now on. It's a little plaguey. And then track 11 is Locust of Death. So they seem to have the like, you know, the biblical plague thing down. The Charlton Heston thing. Yeah, yeah. Insects and amphibians. Yeah. Great. And I listened to this. I really liked their last album a lot. This one is okay. So much. No, it's

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It's not that I don't like it, it's just that it didn't like blow my mind. But it was good. It's okay. It's all right. I thought some of the music that seemed a bit disjointed on it for me kind of took me out of the album. I don't know what it was about it, but I didn't enjoy listening to it that much. Maybe I have to spin it again. Next up, we have the first album from Cult of Lilith called Mara. They're an Icelandic blackish death band. I describe them as like sort of like Cradle of

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Meets Flesh God Apocalypse because it's like it's it's kind of blacky in a symphonic sense but then it's it's death metal I don't know it's a very interesting album to me I I bought it I like it I think it's cool well the description on Metal Bled says the band plays necromechanical baroque which could be one of the most okay it's pretty unique metal subgenre I never heard that before I'm not really sure if I

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I like the album, but it definitely sounds unique. Yeah, it is. I dig it. Baroque. It's the mechanical part that I'm having a little trouble with. Like, I think it's okay, too. But it's a little smooth in places, a little overproduced, which you call out the right band, George. I mean, that could be said about Flesh God Apocalypse and stuff, too. So I get it. I get it. I'm not totally crazy about it myself. Well, fuck you. Yeah, not much about it, I really. I mean.

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I mean, there's a lot in there, so I think it takes a few listens. It kind of goes all over the place, which is sometimes good, sometimes bad. In this case, I think it's good. Fair enough. Next up, we have Jupiterian and their third album, Proto Sapien, their Brazilian Death Doom band. I know Will was all about these guys. Speaketh, sir. I like them a lot.

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I love it I love the album yeah it's great I love I've been listening to on Facebook and finally to or on Facebook on Bandcamp and finally tonight it's okay just fucking buy it dude so I got it today but I've been listening to it's just as good as it is I fucking yeah it's testing but it has that has like a sinister coating of atmospheric sludge to it too it's heavy as fuck it's just really heavy yeah it's great cool next up it's not quite out yet but it shall be soon the new

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Napalm Death Album, Throws of Joy in the Jaws of Defeatism. This is their 16th album, and I like it because I'm a big Napalm Death fan. I love it. I love it, and as somebody who kind of freaked out on them in this last year, I would say it's as strong. I like it better, believe it or not, than Apex Predator, George. Really? Yeah, I really do, but I think it's just as strong as the last five albums.

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I do hear this bullshit noise rock thing Barney claimed they were doing. It sounds like Napalm Death to me. I don't know. So here's the weird thing, though, is that and I don't know if you remember or know this, but one of the driving forces, especially in early Napalm Death, was their huge Celtic Frost fans. And they always throw something in that could be misconstrued as a Celtic Frost thing. And if you listen to that song, the one with the word clutch in it, something confounding clutch. I'm telling you, dude, if Tom.

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If Tom sang on that, it could have come off of a Trypticon album. As weird as that sounds, it's not what I'm trying to sell people on because I think the album is good on its own merits. I mean, it's one of my favorites of Napalm Death, I think. I've spun it maybe seven times, I think. Nice. I would not see that. No, normally I like Napalm Death, but they've never been huge. There's a vitality to this album that I really like. Decibel actually gave it a 10, and I wouldn't go that high.

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Because that last song is just four and a half minutes of nonsense. It is. And they released it as a single, right? Yeah. I was like, what are you doing? Anytime there's musical dickery on an album that lasts more than two minutes, it automatically receives a point reduction. Yeah. But they do that a lot these days. And I like it because I like that weird voice thing he does and all that stuff. That was like the beginning of Apex. Exactly. And it shows up in like the last four records. But that's not a bad question.

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It also got a 10 because I think Albert's crazy about them. He absolutely is. And they also press the vinyl. And they also press the vinyl. I mean, I'm on a huge napalm death kick. So I mean, it's a great album. I mean, it's a solid nine for me. I think I mean, I'm sure it's gonna make it to my list. Is it double pants? It's triple pants. Because it's gotta hold you back.

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I love it. I think it's great. How many pairs of those pants have suspenders? And are they rainbow suspenders? It's true. If you had three pants, would you need three suspenders? I don't know. Maybe. The clips go on all three pants. It's true. I'm glad it's resonating with more than one of us because I think that sounds like it deserves to be on some lists here and I think it probably will be. Oh, it will be. It will be. John, did you listen to it? No. He's like, fuck Napalm.

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No, I don't have anything against them. I just didn't listen to it. Okay. All right. So next up, we have a band called Putrid Awful. And it's not A-W-F-U-L, but O-F-F-A-L, as in like shit found in the street. Awful. No, no, no. I think awful is like, it's a food thing that's like tripe. Yeah. It's like it's the shit. Yeah. Whatever. But Putrid Awful and their second album, Sickness Obsessions,

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They're a French death grind band. And this album was originally slated to come out before mid-year. And I was like, we got the promo months and months ago. And I was like, oh, this is so going to be on my mid-year list. And then they pushed it back to September. And I was like, fuck. So expect to see it on my year end. Cool. And I haven't listened to it, but if you feel that strongly, I will make sure to put it on. Oh, yeah. I listen to it. It's Gore Grind, which is really not my thing. I know it's George's thing, but I'm not going to be on my list.

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I actually I was surprised by how much I like this record. Yeah it's good. Okay that's too good. Too good more reasons to look at. Next up we have an album that I had no idea was even coming out until like a week ago. What? I mentioned this. Okay well I'm a fucking idiot. But Skeletal Remains is releasing their fourth album The Entombment of Chaos. Their California death metal band. Of course

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I've mentioned many times on this podcast, but yeah, I did not see this. This was, I got blindsided by this one, but I listened to it the other day and it's fucking cool. Uh, yeah, they're always in pretty much the same spot there. Um, and they are, this is the result of the sort of Hispanic, um, death metal community. And these guys are all Hispanic, by the way, if you don't know that in this band, but that's great. I think actually there's been some turnover in the band. Oh, okay. Believe it or not. I'm not saying that. No, no. I, yeah, I think they actually have two new members for the band.

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this album. I only printed it out though because there's so many Hispanic people in the metal community here and everywhere. And so it's so nice to see a full his previously fully Hispanic band come out and and it's right exactly what you would think they would do that you know because there is right that death metal fucking pocket you know what I mean it's like really. I think the singer guitarist is the main guy now it's become his kind of his project overall although I think one of the guys is back in the band that was in there early on so.

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I also kind of got the feeling a bunch of them at least early were like relatives like it's like death angel yeah

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but that was just a guess I mean maybe I don't fucking know but I saw them once and they're kids too at least when I saw them they were all like 12 dude I mean they're not an old band they're a bunch of I don't know about you guys but I liked it personally it rips all the tracks are really strong on it yeah it's a this is another really good year for death I think so I got to spin this album a bunch more to see where where it's

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I think I'm going to be coming back to this one a lot.

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Oh yeah. They haven't put out anything I didn't like so far.

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They're always just.

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And they're not doing anything different than some of the older bands that they kind of emulate.

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They just do it so well.

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They just do it right.

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They just have really good riffs throughout that album.

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We got two more new releases.

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We got to hurry up and move it on because Will and all of Scaldor look like they're falling asleep.

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Scaldor are all like 30 years old.

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They're like, it's death metal, we don't care. I've been watching, they're drinking way more than we are. Alright, so, okay, second to last one, Venomous Concept, Politics vs. The Erection. This is the fourth album from this grind punk band featuring half of Napalm Death and the singer from Brutal Truth and the dude from Corrupt Moral Altar or some shit. I fucking love Venomous Concept.

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And this album is fucking awesome. Yeah, it's what you expect it to be. And I mean that in a positive sense. Yeah. When you hear that list of talents. Yeah. I mean, the album title is basically a metal thunderdome and there's a clear winner for me. Yeah, it's the album politics because this album does nothing to do. Get me hard. Yeah. The album cover is a cross between Alfred E. Newman from the Mad Magazine covers and Donald J. Trump dickhead.

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J.

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J.

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stands for Jessica.

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Did you know that?

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Yeah, it should.

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I'm not going to ask him.

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Anyway, our last new release is a band called Will's Dissolve.

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And we're not talking about our will.

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The album is called.

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Although he is dissolving.

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Oh, shit.

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There he goes.

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It's their second album called Echoes.

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I'm not dead yet.

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They're from Houston, Texas.

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They're like a prog death band.

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I heard about this one from John and I picked it up because of John so I'm gonna let John talk about it well I don't know if I should talk about it because it seems like everyone that's under the age of 35 has to go to bed yeah see you guys it's crazy late man it's like 10 it's I can't I mean if anyone should be like going to bed it should be me yeah we're good sorry guys no I know we're just messing with you guys I'm

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I'm tired. Yeah. You're always tired. Tired will should be your nickname. Yeah. No, just real quick. Yeah. Like George said, they're pro death band from Houston's or second album. The first one that came out last year, I think Markisan, I may have talked about it. I picked it up for a second and it's all right. Yeah. I liked it. I picked them both up. A Pethian vibe on it. I did too, but this new one just blows that out of the water. As far as I'm concerned. It's like one 30,

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And I'll say this, I'll talk about it more coming up in a few minutes. We'll save it for that for our new releases. But I think it's a really good release. It's stellar. Yeah, yeah. It's like almost like a new band. They just, I think they've just taken it a couple notches. And I hate where they were before. And we have a band on. So this is an interesting thing to bring up. I hate when people say, oh, the band's matured in their sound. I fucking hate that. Because it makes it sound like what they were playing before was shit.

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or that they didn't know what they were doing. To me, it's just they're evolving. They're changing. They're doing different things. I fucking hate that word, mature. Sounds like someone's a little sensitive with all that gray hair. Oh, dude. You have no idea how much gray hair I have. Gray pubes? Gray hair in weird places. Yeah. Gray hair in places I never had gray hair before. But I will say that I think the writing is... It sucks when it gets in your mouth. You should know.

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Anyway, I'll say that I think that Dave progressed quite nicely with the second release. Agreed. What's the band name? Will's Dissolve. Will's Dissolve. Yeah. I like your point, too. That makes a lot of sense. I've never actually thought of maturing as a, you know, that word particularly, but it makes sense. Well, I bring it up because, you know, some of us on here are Opeth fans, and I hate to hear from, and I'm a prog guy, and I hate when prog fans say, oh, they dropped the death vocal, so they've matured. Fuck you. Go fuck yourself.

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So as you're working on that second album, beware of the word matured. No, we were going to drop all of the heavy vocals. We already entered our progressive phase on our first album. You don't want to mature. You want to stay immature. Yeah, that we are. You know, Will loves it when there's like a little children's choir on an album though. So if you can work that out. Yeah. I've heard of a pretty cool band that does that really.

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Well, yeah. Clean vocals and tie-dye shirts. You guys are going to get amazing reviews. We do tie-dye corp paint. How about that? Oh. Wow. Rainbow colored corpse paint. Oh, man. That's awful. I like it. All right. Is it awful? So, I guess anyone? So, we're going to move on to what we are listening to.

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And we will start with Cary. What are you listening to? Jeez, um, let's see.

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Thinking of new stuff that I liked lately, I guess like album of the year shit for me so far is it's mostly going to be black metal because that's kind of what I'm paying attention to at the moment. But there was this record by a Belarusian band called Downcross and they have kind of a lot of stuff out. What the fuck was that album called? It was called This Is My Wishlist. Not in the collection.

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It's like almost your album of the year and it's in your wishlist? No, no, no. I had my wishlist open, sorry. Oh, right, right, right, right. He's kind of interrupting Kelly when he's getting out his spreadsheet. Yeah, no, it was Current Towards End by Downcross. That album absolutely whips ass. It's just like fucking riffs for days. It's really short, like four tracks. They're all about four or five minutes, but it's just... They're a black metal band called Downcross? That sounds like a hardcore band. It's a band called Downcross.

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Downcross. That's like total fucking hate breed kind of stuff. I've heard that band. Yeah, I had never heard of them either, but this was really fucking good. I'm all for supporting art from Belarus right now, too. Yes, I'll see that, man. That's pronounced Belarus. Oops. Or just Belarus. No, see, that's an inside joke of an inside joke because I did not. Growing up in the 80s,

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Belarus did not exist then. And so when I once tried to say the word to my wife, I called it Belarus. And she's like, are you a fucking moron? It's Belarus. I'm like, I don't know. It didn't exist in high school. You know what Belarus means? No. Bella or belly. No, belly. It's not Italian. It's Russian. Belly means white. Russe is Russia. So it's white Russian. White Russian. They made a drink out of it.

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They made a drink out of it. Goddamn. This is when Will is sober and I still remember all my master's degree and all that stuff. All right. What part of your master's degree has to do with white Russians? That makes no sense. I'm sorry. No, I know. I'm not fucking with you. I went to Russia. I'm just going to play the dumb guy again. I went to Russia and I was flying back from this was 2002 and there was a dude, some American just like,

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He was retiring in Belarus because his dollars would go a lot farther. I think about this guy every once in a while in Belarus is in the news and I'm like, I wonder if his life's good now. I wonder if he's found a nice wife over there. I think he has. They love Americans. He ordered one from Russia. But she's in the States now though. This guy was like a teamster or something too. This teamster worker dude is like, I'm going to go to Belarus. Anyway,

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What else are you listening to? Oh yeah, sorry. We got a lot of mileage on that one. This is one you guys probably liked a lot, but the new Lore album. Oh yeah. I love it. I just randomly, it was like a, I think I was hanging out with one of her friends and I was just drinking a fuckload and randomly stumbled upon their first album on Bandcamp and like accidentally played the first 15 minutes because I was looking for something else and was just like, what the fuck is this? And like just drunk, bought it on the spot, forgot about it. And then a couple

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I like it was just like I mean that that CD spent like a solid two months in my car or something just like every day I was working at Atlas at the time so just like going back and forth to DC every day it was just fuck I love I didn't know I needed it but I needed it desperately um it's like nobody jumped on board here because if I remember right we had a pretty good argument about this one well John's a big fan it was me and John because I I like him I like him too and I'm not trying to put something they played Atlas is that right they did they did

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with Parias.

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Are they?

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Parias.

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What are they doing?

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They need a new record, those fuckers.

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They're like 18.

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Give them a chance.

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They've got to finish up.

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Have you heard their record?

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You guys listen to that?

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That last record was so good.

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It was good.

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Lovecraftian thing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, both of those guys were really cool.

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That was a great show.

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That was really fun.

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That was a very cool show, and it was cold that night.

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It was fucking cold.

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Yeah, it was like winter or something.

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It was bad.

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Your prog nipples out?

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What else you got? You got to have a long list because mine's fucking huge. Huge. Huge. You guys might have also heard of KVAN. K-V-A-E-N. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Swedish Projects. One Man Thing. That one is absolutely fucking with us. That would be another Help Me the Year contender for me. That's just really fucking good. Fun fact, also that guy played as a live guitarist for Ghost Ship Octavia. Oh, wow.

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Yeah, the Van Wilder, or Van Williams. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've seen them. Yeah, we saw them at ProgFest, or ProgPower. Yeah, Prog. That's cool. I had no idea, but it explains a lot of those guitar solos on that album. Well, the singer guy, what's he from? Of Gershub Octavius? Yeah, yeah, he's from something else. He's from something else. Ashes of Aries? No. No, Van Williams is in the band from Ashes of Aries also. The singer's from something, though.

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He said something else. I don't remember where the other guys are from. Yeah. First of all, I asked you some areas is Matt. What's his fuck? And did you know he was doing something with what's his fuck? Yes. Yes. And then he said, what's his fuck said? No, we're not getting what the fuck back together. And it's, this is a completely separate project. Does that make any sense? First. Okay. Okay. John Schaefer and Matt fucking Barlow are doing a project together. And they said, no, we're not. He's not.

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joining Iced Earth. So yeah, that's what all that. He's a cop now. He is in Delaware for a long time. Yeah. Oops. That's out of time. I know exactly where you were. Show last night. Carrie and I get. Yeah, we fucking did. Oh, well, he's doing something with John Schaefer again. So if you had a few, you heard it here first, but he's married to John's wife or sister. Yeah. He's married to John's wife. Isn't that strange? Pardon the beer.

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The Demons and Wizards. Yeah. Yeah. They got back together. Started making music again. Yeah. They put out their third album for the first time in like, what? Yeah. I was really excited for it and then totally forgot to listen to it. Jesus. I got to go. It's pretty good. It's not bad. No, I think they might have announced their intentions for a fourth too. Am I making that up? I thought they were going to just keep moving forward. I think so. Yeah. Blind Guardian's latest, the Red Mirror or whatever it was called. Beyond the Red Mirror.

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That one fucking whipped ass. That was really good. Yeah. Blind Guardian's really good. That was my first metal show. Wow. What tour was it? At the Trocadero, Phil. Or Will, rather. Philly, yeah. It was a Twist in the Myth tour. Yeah. A record I like, by the way, that a lot of people shit on it. Yeah, I don't like it as much. It's not bad or anything. I just think it wasn't as good as previous stuff. I don't know. I don't know that one, actually, because this is actually a hilarious,

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story. Carrie and I went up together. We were in high school. His mom drove us up. I don't even think we had a driver's license. And we stayed at his great aunt's nun, retired nun convent. Yeah, she was a nun. So yeah, we would go up and visit every so often. And they had like a... Does she know what you do now? Well, she's dead. So it's okay. Yeah. So she's probably just looking down

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I'm like Jesus Christ but no um yeah they're their nun content had this like built-in guests

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like facility full-blown just like you know basically a hotel room like full suite you know guest

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guest shit you know little yeah basically irony here it was very yeah exactly I mean it was only blind

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guardian you know it wasn't like we were gonna go see you know like dark funeral or something but

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at the same time it is very funny that like yeah my mom just drove like my my own younger sister

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And then like Brendan,

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one of our buddies up,

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you know,

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just packed the station wagon and up.

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We fucking went.

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Just for future reference.

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You don't have to put none in front of convent.

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That kind of goes without saying.

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I'm sorry.

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No,

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but I also,

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by the way,

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George,

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Van Williams is in ghost.

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Van Williams is in goat.

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It's in camping.

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Exactly.

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Van Williams is involved in ghost ship Octavius.

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Hence the confusion about ashes of Aries.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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I know that.

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I know that.

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Yeah.

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I met Van at,

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in Baltimore at the ashes of Aries show there.

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We did a little interview with him. He's a super nice guy. Super nice guy. I remember right. He was super candid, too, wasn't he? Yes, he was. Yes, yes, he was. I just wanted to mention that my first Blind Guardian show was at Jack's, and it was fucking hours late because the fucking opening band, local band Dominion, fucking didn't show. So fuck Dominion. What tour was that?

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It was the Tolkien thing. No, it was. Hold on. Give me one second. It was the 98, I think. Night at the Opera. Oh, man. I love that. Was that with Symphony X? Yes, it was Blind Guardian, Symphony X. I saw both of those shows. I was there, too. I saw both because they came back.

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two nights later and did you sit outside and freeze your ass off waiting to get in because it was like an hour or two late i saw them at prog power a couple days or a week before that in atlanta yeah and just because they were mentioned i also wanted to say i also saw dark funeral at jack's so did i uh with enslaved yeah i saw god damn it i just don't like you guys anymore what do you mean anymore did you ever then again it usually happens a lot faster so

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All right. We're still on carry. How many more do you got to go? I'm just showing that random shit until you call on someone else, I guess. Well, there's one more that's worth reference, though. I have 26 items on my list, so if you got them, throw them out. All right, all right. I got one more then, I guess. There's a... It's another US black metal band called Valdrin. Yes! A album called Epogee of Nightmares. That's on my list. There's another one. I confess I clicked on it because the

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was fucking sweet. And it's really, really good. It's like kind of shouting out. I don't know. Their influences are definitely very like old school, I think, in general. But I mean, you get like early emperor vibes, the way that they use a lot of the crazy harmonic stuff going on. I don't know. Really good album. I would recommend that one also. I got that one on vinyl. Yeah, it'd be cool. The cover is awesome. That's really good. All right. Well, Tommy, what are you listening to? Oh, man. A couple

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really good black metal albums that came out recently. Um, one is shit. I got to go on band cam and find the names. The band name is Sinira. They're like, uh, it's a one man band. I think he's based in Texas. It's, it's very dissection inspired black metal. You're one of those dissection people, are you? Yeah. I really like dissection. I'm dissection.

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Not die. Oh, I got it. It's like Voivod and Voivod. Dissection. Dissection. It's definitely dissection. You're just objectively wrong. That's fine. I'm always wrong. I think I said dissection, dude. How do you spell that band? The album is called The Everlorn and the band is Sinira. S-I-N-I-R-A. Oh, yeah. It's in my wish list, I think. It's like that black and the logo is a dark purple

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Yeah, it's purple. I was going to say purple. Yeah, really fucking good. It's like, I like to call it Dissection 2.0. Like, updated for today. It's fucking great. Less murdery. Well, I don't know about that. More plaguey, less rapey. Cool. And then a Finnish band. You guys probably know. Havu Crew New.

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That's also on my list. That's a good one. Yeah. How do you pronounce that album again? I don't know. Let me stab at it. That's right. Carrie knows Nordic phonetics better than anyone else. Oh, all right. Because he's dating a Norwegian girl. See, I was going to say we need fucking either Anders or Yanni on here to pronounce this shit for us. Yeah.

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I don't know.

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We know.

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See,

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Sjärmängsota, I guess. Sjärmängsota?

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We knows.

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That's fucked up. Fuck that shit.

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Okay. That's better than I was going to say.

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I don't know.

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This is awesome.

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The thing is, like, Finland is just, it's like, Norwegian makes sense.

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Like, as an English speaker, it's a very easy language to learn.

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Like, same with Swedish, although you sound retarded.

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But Finnish is just wonky.

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They have way too many vowels in that shit.

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You know, there's three.

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I said this before on the podcast.

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There's three countries or quasi languages in Europe that have no basis in the Indo-European slash Latin romance languages. One is Finnish, the other is Estonian, and the other is Hungarian. Well, fuck them. Speak like the rest of us. Scandinavian languages are like Germanic, I guess. I'm kidding, by the way. I'm huge in Estonia, so, you know.

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I don't want to piss them off.

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Yeah, those are two albums I've been listening to a lot.

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Anything else?

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Yeah, but it's hard to like...

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I listen to so many random albums every day.

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You know?

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Believe me, I know.

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It's hard to call them up. You know. And I'm always listening to old stuff, too. Like, 1349 is one of my favorite fucking black metal bands. I listen to Celestial Deconstruction, like, at least once a day. That song in particular, because it's an amazing song. And Frost from, obviously, Satiricon in 1349 is one of my favorite drummers.

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But when 1349 tours the US, sometimes they have Dominator from Dark Funeral drum for them. No longer Dark Funeral. Yeah, no longer. But that's what he's best known for. So there's a great YouTube video if you're a fan of drum cams of Dominator playing a 1349 song, which is Celestial Deconstruction. I recommend everyone watch that at least once a week.

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Experiences of Scalders history. When we flew into Oslo and finally got there and, you know, parked in our hostel, there was a necrophobic show at the local venue. The day before Inferno Festival started, there was just a standalone show the night before at the same venue at John D, the downstairs venue. No, that's okay, Tommy. You tell the story.

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I'm just very excited that's all it's such a fond memory for all of us all right fuck you both I'm telling this story yeah there's a new necrophobic album coming out by the way in it yeah yeah singles are good uh but anyways we we were very jet lagged and tired and you know almost didn't go to the show but mustered up the strength and and walked down the street

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And hadn't heard of any of the opening bands, but one of them was Nord Jebel. Yeah, I know them. And we saw Niels Felstrom, Dominator, walk out on the stage. And we had no idea that who this band was or the fact that Dominator was playing for the band, with the band now. But it was a series of double takes and, you know, kind of questioning the entire time whether or not he was in the band because we didn't have,

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Wi-Fi or even 5G or anything on our phones because we're in a foreign country. So we couldn't just Google it real quick to see if he was actually in the band. But as soon as he started soundchecking, we knew right away, that's fucking Dominator. And we're randomly stumbling into this tiny little concert venue watching Dominator the first night that we're in Oslo. So that's... Awesome. That's it, yeah. Yeah, I'd fuck Dominator.

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Now that is the kind of shit that we want to hear on here. We're here for the content guys. I think that's an outtake. We'll play on the show freaking out. You know I had a in high school I had a friend and you know how guy you know how guys have the like you know guys have the like the homophobic joke you know camaraderie kind of thing. He was a really huge Dio fan and he was like

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One day he came to me and he was really serious. He was like, dude, I would let Dio fuck me in the ass. I was like, okay. That's cool, man. Thanks, man. You're saying I got a chance? So what do I got to do? Yeah, that's right. There are certain things you keep to yourself, though. You know what I mean? Or things that don't need to go on the podcast. Yeah, but just like, you know what?

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I feel like I want you to know this about me. And just for any of my Michigan friends listening, that was Craig. Oh, man. Lids off. All right. Poor Craig. Yeah. Well, he was very enthusiastic about Dio. Let me just tell you. Oh, yeah. You've made that clear. Wouldn't you be? All right. Clear, Craig. Are we on to Brent now? Go for it. I mean, these guys took up all the, we do a lot of music.

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So I've been mostly listening to, we're working on putting together a playlist on Spotify of influences for the Scaldor album. So I've been going back through and, you know, pulling out the catalog of stuff that brought us to where we are. So lots of Dawn and Dissection, Windeer,

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Dark Funeral.

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Is he like Vraid?

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Hell yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Actually, yeah, I saw those guys at Soundstage last time they came through.

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He's really nice.

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Yeah, we did, brother.

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Oh, yeah, you were there too.

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That's true.

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I drew a fucking Alex up there.

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That spectrum, but the lists are many.

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I like Soundstage.

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Pass along to another human.

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Do you guys have bands that you would really like to do a show with?

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That's a good question. Yeah, I mean, inevitably, yes. That still exists.

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These members haven't died or were murdered.

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You're like your dream show, if you could be on the bill.

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I would love to do some kind of U.S. tour.

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I think we're all pretty...

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Their music, you know, I am not always the biggest fan of Uwata,

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But I think we're all inspired by their comeuppance, at least in the scene. They're one of the big U.S. black metal bands that really shot through the roof. So that's pretty inspiring. It would be a big deal for us if we could do some kind of U.S. tour with them. Hoth is another big one. Wow. U.S. black metal band that I'd love to do a show with. Yeah, although I don't think they play shows.

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They just make albums.

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Well, you should get your chance with Uwata because they do not fucking stop touring.

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No, they don't.

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When there's no big.

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Addicted to the road.

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I've been going on for like four years.

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Yeah.

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They like made their first album oops into making it big and then just like didn't fucking stop.

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Like, hell yeah.

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That's awesome.

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Always on the fucking road.

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I think Skaldor, like many, if not most bands in existence, if we caught a break playing with a dark funeral type band, we could hopefully garner enough attention to do something interesting. But that's next. That would be a great show. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Markisan or Quadruple Pants Protection? Yes.

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I need it at this point. I had to upgrade. Yeah. Well, you know what? I had to mature. I just, that's what happened. He dropped the growls in his, yeah. It's all clean singing and children choirs for me. Hell yeah. All right. What do I listen to? All right. The first one on my list is Question, Reflections of the Void from Chaos Records. This is a Mexican band. So Jay, put on an extra pair of pants. Hell yeah, brother.

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It's like it's old school death, but there's a lot of color and dimension in the song composition. So there's a bit of Prague, Spacey Psychedelia, Odd Time Signatures, all that stuff just enhances the tracks, but it never really strays far from the death heart of the band. So and then the songs are memorable and catchy, too. I think it's just a phenomenal record. It is. It's already on my list.

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And I don't know where it's going to fall at the end of the year, but it's fantastic. The next record is Cloud Kicker, Solitude, self-released. Cloud Kicker makes some of the best instrumental albums to me, and this might be my favorite one that he's done. It's one guy who does all the stuff. Hey, Marcus, can I interrupt you to break your heart for a minute? Yeah, yeah. Did you know that Incantation is streaming live right now for the Mexican Metal Festival thing? I did know that, yes. Okay, sorry. Go ahead. But thank you.

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So yeah, Cloud Kicker, the past albums, they've flirted really hard with my year-end list, but they just weren't quite metal enough to me to make the cut, but I think that might change this year with Solitude because it's really heavy. The next record is Women of Doom on Desert Records. This is a compilation album that was created to recognize and celebrate the impact of

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female artists on heavy music. And it's excellent. I came across this one because I was curious about what the members of Sub Rosa were up to because I really liked that band and they split. And they formed a new group called The Odolith. And they have a track on here. And this is fucking a really good album. I would highly recommend it. Dirt Redux on Magnetic Eye Records. This is the new Alice in Chains cover compilation.

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I got some shit to say about that. You do? Well, it features some cool metal bands, including Jay's all-time favorite group, Chemists. And Alice in Chains is one of my favorite all-time bands. And so there's some good interpretations of songs on here. In fact, a band from that Women of Doom compilation, the Otolith, contributes a track to this one. I've really liked what Magnetic Eye has been doing over the last few years because they do these tribute albums.

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I really like the Helmet Meantime Redux record that they did, and I like this one a lot too. Next one is a Silvered Six Hours. It's a self-release. It's a really enthralling, dark, melodic, death-doom concept album about witchcraft that's based on true depositions from the Inquisition period. And it has a little bit of a prog in it too. I just found it on accident. Definitely an under-the-radar type record.

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Merciless, the mother of all plagues. Perfect for these times on Xenocorp Records. I've been spinning this one a ton lately. It's an energetic rip parade of death thrash. And this band was around in the 90s and they released a really, I think, classic album called Colored Funeral. And then they went fucking nu metal. And then they completely imploded. Everybody railed against them.

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Yeah. And they made a comeback, I guess, a few years ago. And this is the third record in their second coming. And I didn't even know anything about this comeback. Yeah. They're on the same label as Putrid Ophel. So I just stumbled across this on Bandcamp when I was listening to that record. And this Mother of All Plagues is a fucking great. I think we have a promo for this. It's really good. Yeah. And on the Tomb of All Things, this is a reissue on translation.

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and Loss records. This is one of my favorite Slow Doom records of the last five years. And they just made it better with this new mix. So I've been listening to that a lot. I listened to the original version quite a bit. Now I have this to enjoy and they put out a vinyl for it. So I had to pick that up. I don't think they had vinyl of the original. I think they just had it on CD. So that's kind of cool. Oh yeah. You know what we forgot to do, George? Album of the episode for the boys. We'll have to do that later.

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We should have had those guys from Scalder do their album of the episode. But at least you can do it. George's drunk. A little bit. You need more pants, man. You need a lot more pants. So for Scalder, we do an album of the episode. So it's like all the new releases, the things that you talked about,

02:31:05.660 --> 02:31:35.640
What was your favorite album that we've talked about on this episode? And so it's a tough choice for me because like four of the ones I actually mentioned now are contenders for my year end. But I particularly love the Jupiterian that we talked about and that Merciless record is like on heavy rotation for me. But I think I'm going to go with the Women of Doom just because it's such a unique and fantastic compilation and it deserves a spotlight. And I hadn't heard of it. I think it came out maybe in April or March or something. And I just heard about it.

02:31:35.680 --> 02:32:05.620
it now. So definitely check out Women of Doom. I saw that, but I didn't get a chance to look at it. I would hope that Convent is on there. Are there? That's a nun Convent. Yes! You don't need to say that. Oh man, am I bad? I'm guessing they're not on there, but they fucking should be. That was pro-life.

02:32:07.760 --> 02:32:35.640
I think you'll like I hadn't heard some of the bands that are on there but they're all really I mean it's doom you know it's really good doom I'll check it out is there any good doom though oh no don't say that on this podcast Sammy actually wait hold on I have George hang up on Tommy I'm trying to wake Will up right now he hasn't said anything in a while I can make up for this Will I've actually I listened to uh actually I listened to the

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I liked it.

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And I also remember one conversation that we had at Atlas,

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like,

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you know,

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two years ago where you,

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you were like,

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we were arguing about do metal.

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And I said,

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it was black metal for retards.

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And then you were like,

02:32:50.410 --> 02:32:50.800
you were like,

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listen to Crypt Sermon.

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And you like got on my band camp on my phone and like put it in the wishlist.

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And you're like,

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here,

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listen to this.

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And I listened to it again.

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I did listen to it at the time,

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but I just,

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because like we were going to do this,

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I listened to it,

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Like two nights ago,

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with their most recent album.

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It's really goddamn good.

02:33:09.320 --> 02:33:10.360
It fucking is good.

02:33:10.800 --> 02:33:10.960
Yeah.

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It's a goddamn good album.

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It's like,

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I mean,

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actually,

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like I would recommend if you guys haven't listened to it,

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it's going to guys like it's,

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it's a fucking good album.

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Both albums are good.

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I remember that conversation with Will.

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Yeah,

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it was funny.

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I still have not listened to that album.

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It's good.

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It's,

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it's like Mastodon,

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but slow.

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It reminds me of like modern Mastodon,

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but slower.

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I mean,

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if we're talking doom,

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you got to go chemist.

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I actually like Chemist. Chemist is the best. Yeah, Chemist is very good. I mean, I like Sleep. You've got that poster behind you, Will. Yeah. There's a reason for that. And it's called Me. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know if you guys had an album of the episode that you mentioned. An album that you would particularly like to push on people. If you'd like to mention one now, please go through. Wow.

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Well, that's on the spot. I'd say that Suneera album is really worth going out of your way for. If you haven't listened to it, it is, for anybody who's a fan of that melodic black metal style, it's a really, really good album. One of the best I've heard this year. I'm going to spend it tonight. Yeah, it's on my wishlist. I've been meaning to pick it up. S-I-N-I-R-A is the band name. The album is called The Everlorn.

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All right.

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I just said the Havoc Reno album.

02:34:37.060 --> 02:34:37.940
Oh, the other one.

02:34:37.940 --> 02:34:38.860
I forgot.

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I overlooked this one.

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But Ofsky, I mentioned it earlier in the episode.

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But A-F-S-K-Y.

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The album is in Ooga Booga Dutch.

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I don't speak that language.

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So that's about how we do it.

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Yeah.

02:34:56.300 --> 02:34:56.560
Awesome.

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Well, thank you, Pants on Pants on Pants.

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Oh, nice.

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Yeah, that's a lot of pants.

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Everybody is, except for John and Jay and Carrie and Tommy, all have pants. We all have pants. Matt only has one pant leg. Update your name now to have something to do with pants. So Tommy, Carrie, do you guys have an album that you would say is the best that you've been listening to lately? There you go, Carrie.

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That one Finnish album that I mentioned in my... I have a great one....what I'm listening to now, yeah. Havukruunu. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There are two U's in a row. Yeah, if there's two U's, it's Finnish. Yeah. But that's really fucking good. It's very folky black metal. And if you like folky black metal, if you like Finnish black metal,

02:36:01.880 --> 02:36:31.860
Listen to that fucking album. The first song is a fucking banger. It's got maybe the best clean vocals that I've ever heard on a black metal album. Like we were the Scalder recently is we haven't been able to practice together for quite a long time. Part of it was that I moved up to Baltimore and we lost our practice space. Part of it's the whole fucking pandemic should go

02:36:31.900 --> 02:37:01.860
But we rented a cabin in West Virginia for a weekend and just spent a lot of that time playing music because we haven't been able to do that. And, you know, when we went down like 15 minutes down the road to buy groceries, we were fucking blasting that Havu Kourou new album. And yeah, like just sing along to that. It's fucking epic. And

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I it energizes me like nothing has for quite a while. So that's going to be my pick quick. Somebody play that for will. I have to ask you where in West Virginia did it rent a cabin? Because I was just in Berkeley Springs right at KK pond. Straight off 522 pretty much. All right. I was in Davis. So this is near Pawpaw. None of the rest of us know that poor ass state. So sorry. Yeah.

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I mean, it was like three hours west of here.

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It was outside of the unincorporated town of Ooga Booga.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, like, all I know is I pulled into town and like nobody was wearing masks because there was like 12 people.

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Yeah, that was our food lion experience because there was a food lion.

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Yeah.

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No, we had a shop and save or some shit like that.

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That's what food lion was converted to in the town we grew up in.

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Yeah, it was.

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No, no, that's a Martin's now.

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The one in Berryhill? Give it, Kerry, you gave it away. Now that Norway grew up. Oh, my bad. Damn it. We already tripped in now. So they just finished the incantation stream, which you can watch now. You can go back and watch. Dude, the fucking mix on that is amazing. I sat here and listened to the last three songs. There was an incantation stream. It's like not paying any attention whatsoever. No, I can hear you guys, but it's the Mexico Metal Fest. They just did a live set. Yeah. All right. Well,

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from some barn somewhere. Let's move on to Matt. All right. Uh, carcass, the living dead at the Manchester morgue. I grabbed despicable. Uh, I only mentioned it because every time something new from carcass comes up, I usually go on a surgical steel binge. This time actually went through the whole catalog. I've been listening to it nonstop. Uh, there's a band George, you put in the box, uh, and the album is called every action.

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Is that how it's pronounced? I think it sounds beautiful. John would know. I don't know. I don't fucking listen to those guys. John would go. We need a clarification. I don't know. We never were able to figure it out when we saw them. Okay. This is another band that, you know, they're from, what's it, a mix of Spokane, Chicago, Rochester, and St. Paul. So, My Backyard starts out a little soft, but then, I don't know, I totally dug it. Another band, Mark Twain.

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That's what she said. What was that? Starts off soft. As we all do. That's what she said. Not me. You start off hard? Yeah, I know, Will. I mean, right now, he's doing his kegels. That's my secret. I'm always hard. I mean, what time of day is it? All right. That's why he has pants on pants on pants. Yeah, you got it. Just to keep it down. All right. Matt, what was that second album?

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Which one?

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Ab Reaction?

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Oh, Marta Aura.

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It's another made-up one.

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Morbis Animas.

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This is a Polish black metal band.

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S.S. Sands Singing Children.

02:40:17.080 --> 02:40:18.260
There's no Singing Children?

02:40:18.680 --> 02:40:18.840
No.

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It's not Polish, man.

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Dude, I'm out.

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Morbis Animas.

02:40:23.180 --> 02:40:24.840
Yep, Morbis Animas.

02:40:25.030 --> 02:40:26.840
I'm legit just opening tabs and Googling shit.

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This is awesome.

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I've also spent a lot of time with the Insulate promo.

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Next, Serpent Column. They have a new track out, Dereliction. They have an album coming out September 30th called Cathodos. I really dig that band. And then my album of the episode, I've mentioned it before. It is in the box. The band is Dreg Car. The album is At the Crossroads of Infinity. That's on Unspeakable Axe. It is their first album of a U.S. kind of thrashy death metal band. I believe they share a singer with Bastam.

02:41:00.540 --> 02:41:29.420
The Thing I'll Say About Their Sound is I would describe it as almost like an outlaw motorcycle gang thrash that may or may not be associated with the occult. That is one of my sweet spots for a sound I dig. I would almost equate it to if you took some really good Stoner Doom riffs and sped them up. And yeah, totally dig that album. Huh. So Sons of Anarchy Metal. Totally. Totally. Hey, John.

02:41:30.979 --> 02:42:00.040
All right, I'll go fast so I can give George more time. I need it. Maybe cut it down. No. So, yeah, well, we've already knocked off like three of his list, but still his list is like two hours long. Yeah. So. It literally is only going to be like five minutes long, so go fuck yourselves. Well, hopefully I'll knock a few more off his list here. I'm sorry to stopwatch George. I mean, seriously, it's like a four-hour episode. What's five more fucking minutes? Come on. It's not going to be five minutes.

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It will be. I've timed it. It's like five minutes. Well, maybe if you'd stop talking, I can do my damn list. We can get to yours. Well, then fucking do it. Do you see the circular logic we're going through here? Anyway, so my first one, yes, I did listen to Eson's Pharoah's new EP, which has got like some synth wave pop on it. There's like no metal on there. There's none. But it's good. It's much better than I thought it would be. It's cool.

02:42:30.040 --> 02:42:59.460
I'd rather he just released a full album but he's got two EPs out this year. Next one, Luna's Coil or Luna's Call, excuse me, album is called Void. It's their second album. They're an English progressive death band. It's a solid album. We mentioned Skeletal Mo Reigns. I actually like this album a lot. I like them anyway but this is a good album. Matt kind of just like briefly, oh yeah, I listened to this album and no one said anything. The New Enslaved.

02:42:59.460 --> 02:43:26.880
we have. And I've listened to it a lot. And it's, I'm liking it a lot. It's taken a lot of work to, to go through because it's a lot different for them. But we'll talk about it more as we get closer to the date, but the new enslaved has finally been unleashed. I'm really curious about that, especially when you say that it's different for enslaved, because that says a lot. Well, it's good. It's good. That's really good though. It's, I mean, I refuse to believe that it's bad. Like I'm sure it's awesome.

02:43:29.460 --> 02:43:58.960
It's not a lot of different directions. They do a lot of different things. Like Marcus said, it's very proggy.

02:43:59.840 --> 02:44:27.280
The Last Song from E also. Would you say they matured on this album? It's contained prog though because I feel like they have a lot of prog passages on it. You know, Tommy, that's an interesting question. I'm going to comment now so I don't have to do it later on my list. Yeah, I agree. Markisan it is, but I think it's more of a 70s prog sound and not the psychedelic stuff they've done in the past. It's a little more refined.

02:44:30.140 --> 02:44:59.380
There are very proggy parts, but it's not that different from E, though, if you kind of boil it down a little bit. It's just I think they keep expanding their sound. Well, Ivar's favorite record, he will tell in any interview, is Dark Side of the Moon, and that's all over Vertebrae, and he's pulling some of it back into this one, too. There's some Dark Side of the Moon stuff in this one. Yes, I will say this. Go ahead, Jay. I'm sorry. Well, only this. I mean, it's just a hard comment to be.

02:44:59.480 --> 02:45:28.100
or qualified, but I think it's the high watermark for metal albums this year so far. That's how good I think it is. So I will say this, if you guys know what this means, this is their 2112. When Rush put out 2112, they said, fuck it. If we're going down, we're going to go down our way. And not that Enslave has to do that because they're an established band, but they really just went to the South and said, we're going to just play whatever the fuck we want. They did. And I would add one more comment to that, John, and this is only because it occurred to me while I was listening to it.

02:45:28.640 --> 02:45:57.240
They are using more of this new singer, the keyboard singer. And the drummer, too. The drummer's got a great, great voice. Great voices. So they have a lot of, so they have, I don't know if it's got more clean vocals than the last couple, but I will say this, because of that and some of the way it's put together, it's, I can't qualify this, but it's simultaneously their most accessible and least accessible record. Yes, the songs are shorter. There's more songs on the album. For them, there's nine songs. That's a lot. Yeah, it's a 45-minute album. It's not, it's not very long.

02:45:58.399 --> 02:46:24.420
Yeah, that's what I mean when I said it was kind of contained prop. It is. It's tight. The song is shorter, but they put a lot of different elements in the song, but they don't last forever. You know, it's a really interesting album. Yeah. Oh boy, I'm excited for that. It's not a first listen album. I fucking love it. It's a couple listens. It definitely is. I mentioned, I'm sorry to interrupt, John. No, go ahead. Go ahead. The two things that I noted about this album. Six out of ten.

02:46:27.300 --> 02:46:57.140
The second track, about three quarters through, it went like this really weird discordant, like deep purple kind of thing. Yes. They went from below the lights to deep purple. I was like, what the fuck is this deep purple shit going on? Yeah. I have to qualify that comment, George, because really the guitar pattern that's taking place there is very enslaved. And really what makes it deep purple is the Hammond organ. And they had a Hammond organ on E too, though. But then the third track went,

02:46:57.360 --> 02:47:24.160
It's totally Voivod, but it was Voivod doing Pink Floyd. It was very much like Astronomy Domine off of my favorite album that I can't fucking remember. What the fuck's the name of that Voivod album? Anyway, we like it. But I was just like, holy shit, wow. So yeah, it's really good. It's really good.

02:47:27.320 --> 02:47:57.260
a lot of older stuff. So I have to throw this out there. I pulled out Gorgut's Colored Sands recently. I've been spinning that a lot. It's just such a brutally good avant-garde-ish death at Prague, whatever you want to call it. It's so good. And I wish they would release something again soon. And in my album, the episode, which I've sort of kind of hinted to is Will's Dissolve. I absolutely love this album. And it's going to probably show up pretty high on my list. The album is Echoes. We've already talked about it.

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If you don't know anything about it, it's a 32 minute prog deathy, a little bit of black thrown in. It's a science fiction story of an astronaut or whomever going out into the cosmos searching for new habitable planets. And it kind of has that feel that there's certain parts of the song that make you feel like they're actually journeying through space. There's a moment where it sounds like they actually hit a black hole and the music is really fast paced and it just slowly.

02:48:27.320 --> 02:48:55.160
just decreases pace all the way till it stops. It's a very cool song. It's actually a single, as I've said before. It's a 32-minute single. You just sort of sold me on it, though. I'm interested. It's good. I like black holes. I like brown holes, but what are you going to do? It's a little too much void quarter on it, the voice quarter kind of thing, but it's still cool. Do you like it better than Cryptic Shift, John? Or are you not sure?

02:48:57.320 --> 02:49:27.280
I've called because this is like super sci-fi year for that's why I make the comparison yeah it's tough I guess we'll find out at the end of the year yeah I will say this will had said earlier in the year just before the mid-year you better remember your mid-year because it might be your year end and at the time he looked like he was right and I gotta say there are so many good albums that have come out since the mid-year I'm happy my list is fucking totaled those yeah my my mid-year list

02:49:27.300 --> 02:49:57.060
I'm happy. I'm glad we'll... I think we're going to do top 40. You know, we did the top 25 for mid-year. I think we got to do the top 40 because there's just too much shit. Yeah. Just August was fucked. Like, yeah. We're in a couple of Facebook groups that share, you know, just like only black metal and just amongst that genre. We're just like, God damn it. Like, if we'd known there was this much awesome shit coming out in this stupid month, like, I mean, we need to tell. It's the lockdown, dude. I'm telling you. I know.

02:49:58.060 --> 02:50:25.400
I have it on good word that the beginning of the year is going to be insane with new shit. Yes. I mean, if this, like, just a couple of months has been any indication, I don't even want to know. I mean, I totally want to know. Bring it on. Well, I mean, we already know that there's going to be some albums coming out. We know Carcass is going to put it on an album next year. We know Chemist is recording it. I'm ready for Chemist, for sure. Jesus.

02:50:27.260 --> 02:50:28.560
I have a question for you.

02:50:30.100 --> 02:50:33.800
If you're a Gore Guts dude, have you ever listened to a band called Sunless?

02:50:33.970 --> 02:50:35.300
Like the star, not like Pigfucker?

02:50:36.000 --> 02:50:36.240
Yes.

02:50:37.080 --> 02:50:37.260
Sick.

02:50:38.220 --> 02:50:39.640
I have that on the final two.

02:50:39.820 --> 02:50:40.080
Yes.

02:50:40.640 --> 02:50:41.360
Crazy albums.

02:50:41.820 --> 02:50:41.920
Yeah.

02:50:42.080 --> 02:50:47.140
The only reason I'm mad at them is because their guy like stopped doing the Pest of Fear stuff.

02:50:47.510 --> 02:50:47.960
Do you know that?

02:50:48.260 --> 02:50:48.480
Yes.

02:50:49.180 --> 02:50:49.240
Yep.

02:50:49.860 --> 02:50:51.680
I really, really like Hope, Misery, Death.

02:50:52.270 --> 02:50:56.260
And I was actually very angry that he stopped doing that to make Sunless, even though Sunless is good.

02:50:56.360 --> 02:51:23.280
So I can't really be mad. Yeah, but Sunless needs to release a new album. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's really good stuff, though. Really good. All right, Will. I'm going to go fast. That's what she said. He actually did it. Thanks, Marcus, on that woke him up. Yeah, I know. You guys talk about it asleep for like 20 minutes and I'm going to fall asleep.

02:51:27.080 --> 02:51:27.480
Jupiterian,

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uh,

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proto sapien.

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We already talked about it.

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Death doom from Brazil.

02:51:32.580 --> 02:51:33.020
Like that.

02:51:33.740 --> 02:51:33.840
Uh,

02:51:33.960 --> 02:51:35.620
I picked this up somewhere.

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I know it's band camp,

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but I don't know if someone recommended it or I just found it,

02:51:39.680 --> 02:51:39.760
but,

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uh,

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burial fog self-titled album.

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Again,

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a little bit in the death doom realm,

02:51:45.240 --> 02:51:45.720
shocking,

02:51:45.920 --> 02:51:46.020
uh,

02:51:46.340 --> 02:51:46.840
listening to the,

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a lot of the napalm death.

02:51:47.960 --> 02:51:48.800
I really like it.

02:51:49.360 --> 02:51:50.480
There's some weird stuff on it,

02:51:50.600 --> 02:51:51.000
but man,

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it's,

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it's pretty good.

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Uh,

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our,

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our good friends,

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the ex-king giant guys reformed. They dropped a member reformed as Pimmett Hills. And their new album, Heathen and Prophets. Thank you, George, for not deleting that promo and giving it to us. Oh, fuck yeah. I love those guys. Yeah, it's like bluesy rock. It's not metal, but man, it's good. It's really, really good. I'm surprised the next three I'm going to mention, I'm surprised no one's mentioned.

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And I'm going to throw this over to Markisan to pronounce it because he corrected my

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pronunciation before, but it's the child shroud,

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uh,

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Lekai is shroud,

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Lekai shroud,

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other cosmic divinations.

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One,

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they finally really,

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he finally like completed the album and it's really good.

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It's like the proggy death metal.

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Um,

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that's awesome.

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And that was my number one album cover of the mid year.

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It looks like a like Ralph McQuarrie concept art for tattooing in episode four of Star Wars. I'm surprised no one's mentioned Bear Mace, Char's Fields of Slaw. I know, right? Kind of like a silly name in a way, but man, this is a really great death metal album. And I put it on the messenger that we all share that they literally just completely copied death, spiritual healing,

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Riff for like a minute and a half or two minutes. But it's like one of those things like it kind of like it's like a lighthouse calling me back like, oh, wow, like this is so great. I kind of missed that album. Like, wow, you're incorporating slightly different to the new thing. Like, this is really cool. But I'm like, are you a mariner? Yeah, yeah, yes. Actually, for 26 years, I was a Marine. Awesome. A mariner. Got it. I was a mariner.

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And then the last one, Void Rot came out, Descending Pillars. I think it was released last Friday. Yeah. But again, great Death Do. But of all of that, I don't really have an album of the podcast, but maybe I'm going to go out on a limb. Pimmitt Hills, Heathens and Prophets. Right on. Just, they're great guys. I'm friends with all of them. They're here local in Northern Virginia.

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Yeah, the guys from King Giant. I mean, just the musicianship, the songwriting, and I think really what stands out is the storytelling. And it's kind of an EP. Man, Dave Hammerly, who's a lead singer, first of all, he's got this great raspy, bluesy sort of rock and roll voice, but that guy can tell a story. Just great, kind of like old American folk, just great storytelling.

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I love it. Check it out. Those guys are cool. I wish they had a better name. So Pimmitt Hills is a neighborhood in Northern Virginia where they used to practice. Where in Northern Virginia is it? It's near Tyson's. It's like right in the Falls Church area. At the Falls Church, Tyson's. I thought it was a YACW show. No. Will, the first time I was ever at Atlas actually was going

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to a metal show in DC Beer Week. Atlas was hosting one of its earlier metal shows, I think, and it was King Giant playing the show. King Giant, Cavern, and... Yep. Oh, man. It was Lord. Yeah, I was there. That was awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Lord was there. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. That was a great show. Yeah. That was probably our second show. Yeah. I know it

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It was at the Craft Brewers Conference. Oh, fuck. Okay, yeah, you're right. The Craft Brewers Conference was in Washington, D.C. in April of 2017. Hey, Will, is that work? Is that work? The band's played right by the gate. Yeah. This is like in the early... The stage wasn't like back to the left as you went through. It was like right there. It was like really fucking awkward looking. That was a fun show. Well, you did the King Giant album release part.

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Was that Fairwinds? Yep. Fairwinds. And I'm pretty certain that's where I met John. Yeah. I just saw Matt's name, Assless Chaps. Wait, do you guys watch Lucifer? Not yet, but it's on my to-do list. If you watch Lucifer, you'd know what orgy pants are. Orgy pants. Why is your name still John, then? Yeah, really.

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He's been just the John. All right. You done? Will? Yeah, I'm done. Jay. I'll be brief. And so we can defer to George's massiveness. Yes. But the things a lot and I'm always kind of late in the coin here. So that means a lot of people have said things that were sort of important and need to be mentioned. And there's a lot of stuff that ends up in our threads. But in particular, I would call it the skeletal remains. The napalm death continues to spin with me quite a bit.

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This one, it does not like I'm always looking excuse to bring up this record, but they released some remasters recently that righted a wrong on an added vocal on an album. And I finally got it in the fucking mail. Melissa remastered. They removed the offending fucking vocal that was not on the original album. They did a remaster some years back and it was the only version you could get now. And it's just this like 20 seconds worth of singing that was not on the original record and drove me

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Nuts. I've been listening to this record ever since I got it in the mail.

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Was it kids singing?

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You're so offensive about it.

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It was this vocal that sounded there.

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That was not there.

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And they put it on. It was something that apparently happened

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in the recording session.

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And then sometime in the 90s or 2000s, they released it with that on it.

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It was like, what the fuck is this?

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It's like the extra vocal on Ride the Lightning George.

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Yes, yes.

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It has hurt me for years.

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So I finally got that fixed. Thank God those finally showed up. And then finally, the one I'll just mention, because it's pretty much the only thing I listened to for about three days, is I am sticking with my comment. Wait, what was that last album you were talking about? I don't think you ever even said it. Melissa. So you're right, I held it up. I didn't say it out loud. But I'm going to stand on my original comment a few minutes ago. I honestly think the Enslaved is the high watermark for the year thus far. I love those guys anyway. I did not.

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Most of their stuff is a grower with me. That one was not. I got kind of super, had a few too many one night, laid down on the couch as I was going to bed and stayed up to listen to it. And by the time I was done, I was just like, it's fucking great. Like in a burrito coma? Like too many burritos? I had a little too much to drink. But it was, I love it. And so it's something I'm spinning every day right now. I can't wait to get it on Flack or just Battle. It's a headphones record, dude.

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You got it like a low or something on it, but I can't wait to get in a better quality. But I can already, but I know without question that just right now, listening to a headphone is a better experience than not. So I agree with you. I think it's going to give us some deeper layers. It's great. I, those, I, I, the one thing I said to John was these guys just don't fuck up. They don't. And, and this continues along that path. So plus their fucking hearts, dude. I mean, I don't think I say it a lot, but they're like one of my top three favorite fucking bands. Really? Yeah.

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Jay, I thought you'd say with that comment, and I thought, we have these bands that we grew up with, eventually you add the word fucking in front of their names, like fucking Slayer. Yeah, they betray us in some way. And Slay just becoming that for me. Yeah, yeah. I mean, and for me it started with, I heard about them first at Below the Lights. I mean, that was the first record I had. And I'll never forget that the year that came out, there was an advanced track of that, Fire Swept Clean the Earth, Dead Stair,

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They came out the same time as the John Arch advanced track. And for like two weeks, those were the only things I listened to and the records weren't out yet. And ever since then. God, the dead stare is so awesome. And the shows they've been putting online are just phenomenally good. Yeah, they're awesome. You mean like their live stream shows? Yes. I have ever seen anything with that kind of production quality. Like both of those were just, I mean, suck at Behemoth. I haven't seen that, but I haven't seen it either yet. I do like them.

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They played Frost entire live in Philadelphia. And we were in the photo pit and we were right in front of them and we were like. You were like. Yeah. Crying your eyes out next to somebody. Yeah. They said that was like a walking in Mauritio. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was me when Carrie and I saw Frost and play Frost. We were like second row up there. We weaseled our way up there. And now we're just like.

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We were in the photo pit, like taking illicit photos. Yeah. Dude, the entire Decibel Fest was so much fun. Like the, uh, the quality of performances that that is particular event were insane. Like fucking trypticon. Oh my God. Except for Baroness. Fuck Baroness. Dude, that was such a like, that was Baroness. I am with you. I literally was like, I've never seen them. I need to watch two songs. And I was like, fuck this. And I left.

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That was terrible. I was with a lot of the Atlas crew. I'm up there with, I don't know who the fuck it was. I think Will, it was Blake and Dan. They actually really fucking enjoyed Iwata because they hadn't really seen it. I was explaining to Dan that was great. Dude, that was their best show. I've seen them a number of times and that was such a good performance by them. Obviously, the stage was great and the lighting was perfect, but fuck. They did really well.

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That was one of my strengths too. And now here's Baroness. Yeah. It's going to be slow and boring. You know what was even worse than Baroness? Death Heaven. Yeah. They did play also. I heard that they also played. I didn't watch them. I was in line to get my enslaved shit signed during Death Heaven, I think. Yeah. I don't know, man. Like, I liked... What the fuck was their album, Sunbather? Like, I hadn't really heard anything that was like atmospheric blackmail

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It's not atmospheric black metal. It's fucking stupid. It's post black metal. Yeah. It's fucking bullshit is what it is. Anything deaf heaven is bullshit. No, I really liked their first album. Nah, fuck it. I thought it was interesting at the time. And then Brendan and I got hammered one night and we're like, let's go listen to some stuff. And I was like, dude, we got to listen to Sunbather by fucking deaf heaven. And we put it on. I was like, I'm embarrassed that I just asked to listen to this.

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You had it in your car for a long time. I mean, the CD was in my car for a long time. I didn't have it in my CD player playing on the audio for a long time. I've probably listened to it like three times. Way to walk that back. Yeah, this is almost like the this is a little bit like the Dio story that George is doing. I didn't spam that album like on rotation or anything. You wouldn't let Def Heaven fuck you in the ass. No. Oh, right. Okay. That Dio story.

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I'm going to pull this back a little bit and just do my album of the episode, which honestly would be the Enslaved, but that would be improper. We're not to a real release. It's not even a new release. It's not out yet. Yeah, so that doesn't come. But I'm more than happy to give it to the Napalm Death album, which I think is a very good release. It's also not out yet. But it was in the new releases, so I'm calling it a part of the episode. All right, fine. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. It's the same meal. No, not Samuel Jackson.

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It's the goddamn snakes on this goddamn fucking plane. Imagine you tell Washington being like, okay, okay. So that's mine. All right, George, what do you got? All right, I got a shitload of stuff. I'm going to try to be quick. I'm serious. It's going to be like five minutes or less. All right. There goes Markisan. Honestly, I thought it was going to be Will, but Will's still here. All right.

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I'm not even remotely drunk I'm just I'm tired I had a long time drinking wait wait but did Marcus I'm really just fall over or was that like a theatrical it was just him leaving I'm on my 90 minute right now he got up to get some I think he knocked his microphone over yeah all right let's do this first up Anthropic Architects of Aggression there it's their first album there are Buffalo New Yorker grind core band moving on Bear Mace mentioned before charred

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of Slaughter, their second album, their Chicago death metal band. I just bought this one today. Apparently it came out months ago, according to John. Drake Meir, The Fruit of Barren Fields, their second album, their prog death metal band from Grand Rapids, Michigan. Michigan represent. Dumal, The Confessor, second album. They're a Pennsylvania black metal band, and I just picked that up the other day on Bandcamp.

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Good shit. Have you guys seen them play live before? No. Just heard of them the other day. Brent Carey and I saw them play at the MDS PreFest show. Oh, nice. Was it last year or was it the year before? Had it the year before because we were at the PreFest last year. I mean, it didn't exist in 2020, so 2019. 2018. By last year, I mean 2019, and the year before would have been 2018. Yeah, because we were at the 2019.

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It was the most recent one. It was like a Wednesday show that they had. Yeah. Yeah. It was a few great black metal bands and Doom All Play. They were really fucking good. Yeah. They were for Nelfar. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Nelfar is fucked up live. Like their set was like what? It was over an hour I think. And like I just don't understand how somebody can like do that kind of vocal delivery and just not get tired. He was just like on fire the whole time. It was insane. Yeah.

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Sorry to sidetrack you, man. Continue. It's all right, man. That doesn't count against my five minutes. Oh, no, that was their strategy. Actually, you're done. Damn it. I'm only on E. Oh, shit, it's still gone. Yeah, sorry. A band called End, E-N-D, and the album's called Splinters from an Ever-Changing Face. It's their first or second album. I can't quite tell. They're a New Jersey grindcore band. Their first album was

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either an album or an EP. Can't quite tell. It's in between there. Anyway. Good shit. Of course the Enslaved album. God, I had something to say earlier and I don't remember what the fuck it was, but it's really good. So let's just move on. A band called Eraser and their album is called Mutual Overkill Deterrence. It's their first album. They're an Italian grindcore band. Good shit. Pick it up on Bandcamp.

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After our last episode, when Grant was on, I went and pretty much picked up the entire Graf Orlok catalog. They're in LA. Hardcore, yeah, fucking. Bucket of blood, Chicago. Hell yeah, man. I was like, you know, I've been meaning to pick this up, and I went and pretty much picked up everything by them, so thanks, Grant. Mentioned previously, this Finnish band, Havu Krunu. Hey!

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It's the third album from this Finnish black metal band that Carrie pronounces much better than I do. Of course, the Isan EP, Pharoes, very good. I gotta say, the last song on the EP is a cover of A-Ha, Manhattan Skyline. My wife is a big A-Ha fan, so either today or I think it was today, actually.

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I just started playing it on my phone and held it up to see if she would like recognize it but she only knows the first album this is from the second album she didn't know but she did correctly guess that it was AHA hey hey Scalder guys which which one do you think is a lie that George has a wife or that somebody actually likes AHA hey man I don't see why it can't be most like what's it like having a wife yeah yeah well you know AHA is like absolutely massive around the world except

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the US. Yeah. And they're Norwegian, just like Esau. Yeah. They're straight out of the way. They're really fucking big. All right. Moving on to end out. The lie is that George has a wife. Yes. Yeah. I mean, of the two of those, definitely. Yeah. I don't believe you, George. Sorry. That's all right. Hey, just so George flicked this all off just now to see people. You can hear his finger. Thank you. Some people can feel it.

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Tommy can feel fingers guys. Here's a finger. It's his mutant power. Yeah. All right. To close out the I category is a band called Intoxicated. They're a Florida thrash band. Still on I. This is an EP. Their previous album was in 1997. So this is one of those comeback albums.

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Like thrashy EP. Jumping from I all the way to L for Markisan. Laskia's Shroud, I think it was called. Laskia's. Laskia's Shroud, whatever the fuck. I'm drunk. Other cosmic divinations. I finally picked it up because it was all released. The Ocean, not mentioned yet. Oh yeah, I'm surprised.

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Yeah, this one's not out for another couple of weeks, but we have the promo Phanozeric 2 Mesozoic Cenozoic.

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Is there a new album coming out?

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Yeah.

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It's a second band.

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Yeah.

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Proc Sludge Death.

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It is really good.

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Dude, yeah.

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Yeah, Brent and I are definitely huge at the ocean bands.

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Yeah.

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It's good.

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Good shit.

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It's good.

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Really good.

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All right, jumping all the way to P, Pharmacist, Medical Renditions of Grinding Decomposition.

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This is the first album from a Japanese grindcore band.

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Hell yeah.

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Who are also pharmacists. Oh yeah, Ted Leo. I'm wearing your prescription for metal. Mentioned already by Markisan. The band called Question Reflections of the Void. Second album. Their Mexican death metal band. I don't know how to pronounce this one, but I'm going to go with Ranok. R-A-N-N-O-C-H. Reflections Upon Darkness. It's their second album. Their UK prog death band.

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Next up, also not out yet, but we got the promo Revolting. The Shadow at World's End, seventh album of a Swedish death metal band featuring, of course, Raga Johansson of every death metal band ever out of Sweden. Spirit of Rebellion, time for Global Refusal, their fifth album, their Canadian Black Death Band. Good shit. Moving on. That's good. That's good.

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Terminal Nation, Holocene Extinction. This is not Cattle Decapitation, but there is an extinction involved. It's their first album. They're an Arkansas death metal band. So next up is Ulver. I picked up, of course, their new album, Flowers of Evil, but not just that. I went on a very deep, what we call on the podcast, a deep dive for Ulver.

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I bought pretty much fucking everything from them on Bandcamp. I mean, you know, the first couple albums are black metal, folky, black metal stuff, but then they go... Is this a thing that V, Olver? It's not even metal. Most of it is not metal. It's very... It's a V, Olver. Yeah. There's a lot of pop. I have a new album out right now. And it's very pop, but it's also, it's like this dark pop. It's good. It was really good. I really like Olver, and I've been listening to it.

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a lot of Uber.

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And in fact, you know, when I went to make this list, I was like, there's going to be like nothing on it but Uber because like that's all I've been listening to.

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But turns out I've been listening to a lot of shit.

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26, thanks.

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All right.

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Jumping up.

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Okay, I could have it be one second or I could have it be 20 minutes.

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That's cool.

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I'm almost.

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Can we have a time check?

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Only a couple more.

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Only a couple more.

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Oh, shit.

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Van Kalken.

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I'm just starting to go.

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We're going finish again.

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A-Ban called Vaki, I guess, V-A-K-I, and Kualin Man Amoski. It's their first album, their finished black metal band, so presumably Cary knows about them. No, that's the guy who likes Deaf Heaven. He's not going to know that. Right, right. No, no, no. I've got the little arrows which indicates the guy below him likes Deaf Heaven. I don't like Deaf Heaven. They had abandoned that one again. I'm going to write this down.

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So, Kerry, so you know, like not everybody's windows are the same. Like you're on the bottom of my window. There's some guy below me even still. It's crazy. Some guy. Some guy. All right. So this one actually came up already. Below you? This one actually came up already. I was surprised. Where's Ronnie James? Valdron, Effigy of Nightmares, their third album, their Cincinnati black metal band. All right. So I'm going to have to go into detail on this one, but this one's called

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Various Artists. And it is the tribute album Dirt Redux, which is the Alice in Chains tribute album with a bunch of bands. And the reason that I listened to this was because Chemist is on there and they do a copy of a copy, a version of Down in a Hole, which of course is fucking amazing because anything Chemist does is fucking amazing.

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And so as I was telling John earlier, like half this album is pretty good. Half this album needs to suck my dick. So I was surprised. The first track on the album is Thou, if you know them. And they do a copy of a version of Them Bones, which turned out to be pretty good. A band out of Chicago, I think, called High Priest, they're like a stoner band, did Rain When I Die, which is one of my top three songs on this album.

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Just so you know, if you have 26 releases, you are not allowed to call out every song on one of them. I'm sorry, but I got to talk about this one. The High Priest version of Rain When I Die is awesome. Yeah, that's pretty much it. I mean, Howling Giant does a version of Rooster that's not bad, but what I got to call out is the bullshit at the end of the album because if I had top three songs on this album, Dirt,

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They are Rain When I Die, Angry Chair, and Wood. Okay? And the last two songs of this album are Angry Chair and Wood. And a band called Voconus did Angry Chair, and they completely fucked this song in the ass and they need to die. Okay? And then there was a band called... Is that what happens when you do that? The Othelet did Wood, which is like sacred fucking ground for me. The song Wood by Alice in Chains is sacred fucking ground,

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It was fucking horrible.

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I don't agree.

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I mean, you're not going to, you're never, the wood is like an amazing,

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so it's like my favorite Alice in Chains song.

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It is.

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No one's ever going to be able to equal that.

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They're not.

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But their version was, I mean, did you listen to this version?

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Yeah.

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I thought it was fine.

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I liked it.

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It was fucking horrible.

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I'm sorry.

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Say wood?

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As in?

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Yes.

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If I could.

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Wood question.

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Wood question?

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Wood?

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Opus covers great.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I was both pleased and...

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It's going to be five minutes!

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Three more! Three more!

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For those listening at home who have no idea what we just suddenly burst out laughing about.

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Three more!

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John just held up his phone.

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Seriously, we've been on...

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We're at three minutes.

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There is no way I've been talking that long.

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It's going to be like five minutes, man.

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Well, other people have talked too. You can't count the shit that I don't say. All right. All right. Well, I will wrap this up quickly then. I will just say, George, I felt bad for the band that drew Rooster because Rooster is kind of my Allison Chainsaw. Rooster was all right. It was all right. It was all right. At the end of the day, I would never want to. Matt, you're not helping the situation. Sorry. This is the last you'll hear from me of my 46 words I can say. There were seven of them.

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I would never want to be the guy who has to play Rooster. I would just feel like, you know what, Alice in Chains covers? I'm going to let the other people do it. It was all right, though. It wasn't bad. There was a lot of average, like, okay stuff on this album. Oh, George, you were moving on to the other albums. I am. Okay, so Vital Spirit. This is a James album. James from Decibel told me about this. It's actually an EP. It's called In the Faith That Looks Through Death. It's their first EP, black metal. It's pretty good. Moving on to the second,

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The Last Album and then my album of the episode. Okay. Zach Sabbath, Vertigo. This is Zach Wild from, you know, whatever, fucking Ozzy and Black Label Society. So he did an EP of Black Sabbath covers. It's actually pretty fucking cool. It is. I kind of like it. And then my album of the episode, which has already been mentioned, so I will not go into detail of it, but my album of the episode is the Venomous Concept Album Politics.

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versus the erection.

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We may now move on.

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Go fuck all of you.

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Except for you that are guests.

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Because, you know, you're cool.

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Just the guys on the podcast can go fuck themselves.

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All right.

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I want to go fuck myself, too.

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So I'll bury that guy.

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Hey.

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Can you do that in corpse paint?

03:19:31.880 --> 03:19:32.240
Yeah.

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Lube up and do what you got to do.

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Yes.

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Brent, go hide.

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All right.

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So last episode, we did a metal Thunderdome.

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And it was Jay. And he made it hard. He made it very hard. That's contextual. So it was Ozzy's Diary of a Madman versus Black Sabbath's Mob Rules. And the votes as of earlier today were in. And Diary of a Madman beat out Mob Rules by five.

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So, you know, I don't think I voted because I was scrolled away and bumfucked notes. Not going to make a difference. No, no, I'm just saying. We know what you would take, Will. Yeah. What do you think I would take? Most likely, Sabbath. Yeah, my rules. Yeah. Well, actually, I'm curious now. What are the guys in Scaldor think about those two albums? Do you know them?

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I like them both a lot but I'm more on the Ozzy diary camp myself I think Ozzy as a solo artist is much preferable to Ozzy and Black Sabbath well it's Dio doing that true true I this I've been on a huge Randy Rhodes kick recently so a lot of Blizzard in my

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rotation. Yeah. That's John's argument. Randy Rhodes on that album. There's more to it than that, but that's part of it. Yeah. Right. Ready for the win. All right. Let's do this list. Top five. I just got a text from my wife telling me to calm down. No, you calm down. I'm a little crazy over there. I noticed that too. You know, I think she's right.

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You get excited.

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Yeah.

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Hey.

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You may want to chill.

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She's probably like 26 albums.

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Come on.

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Yeah.

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Calm down.

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George, you went 10 minutes over your fucking time limit.

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Did you see John's timer?

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Because I did.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, but I'm very interested in this top five, though, to see what everybody looks like.

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Me too.

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Because I think it could be all over the map, and we're all going to define this somewhat differently.

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Yeah.

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I bet you.

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I think John and I are going to have the same number one.

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I'm just going to throw that out there.

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So that is an all black metal top five.

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Maybe not.

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So our top five, due to the nature of the guest this evening, is the top five black metal albums of the last five years, meaning 2015, 16, 17, 18, and 19. Not including this year. I can count to five. Because I interpreted it as 2016 to present.

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I messaged Carrie very clearly. So Carrie failed. Carrie definitely failed. I failed too. Because when you say the word last, last is not this year. Last is last year. If you're not first, you're last. Five years. That said, I think we're probably good there. Unless Tommy just spent five minutes and fucked up. But then again, you spent five minutes. We're good. I don't have any bands from this year. Yeah, I guess I don't either.

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All right. So we will start with Carrie. Nobody likes fucking Devin. Yeah, that's right. So Carrie, what's your number five? My number five? All right. I didn't go like in a particular order. Let's see. I got to scratch some shit out because we were talking about. I think I'll scratch that out too. Okay. So now I've got one, two, three, four, five. That's six. Okay. I'll scratch out one more. That one. Okay.

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I would say number five. Sinmara from Iceland. Thus, the pronunciation is going to be fucking awful, but... Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. No, I mean... Blah, blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. Bl

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for the last couple of years, but there was a good solid three, four year run where Iceland was just running the black metal scene. Yeah, no, it's insane. Yeah. It was like Sinmara Misturming. There's just every single band out of there. Yeah, like ridiculous. But yeah, that song was great. I think Icelandic black metal brought such an interesting new thing to the scene where they have this, I don't know,

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Calling it atmospheric sounds stupid because I don't like atmospheric black metal as a generalization. But I don't know, they use like noise and dissonance in such an interesting way where they create like super cool texture in the music. And yeah, I don't know. So Sinmaro was a nice balance of that with like melody for me where I could be like super infinitely listenable. So yeah, Sinmaro.

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Let's see. What year is that? That album was 2019. So that was their most recent. I think they have three records. But yeah, that was my favorite of theirs. I think their evolution has been really, really good. All right, Tommy. Wait, do I go to my number one? No, five. Are you number five? My number five? Shit. All right, well, I picked out five, but I didn't rank.

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So give me like two seconds. Same, I was off the cuff. Um, all right. I guess for number five, I'll go with, uh, Hordam Rife. The album is dumb dogs. Wow. That's definitely a black metal. Did you just call somebody's dog dumb? They're a, they're a Norwegian band.

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And they play like, it's really good old school classic second wave black metal. And that's old school classic and second wave go together. Nothing to do with one another. Well, that works. Fuck me. Fuck me in the ass, right? Not unless you're Dio. Only if you're Dio. With Dio, as a matter of fact.

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Well, it's not a gay way. It's very good. It's new, obviously, from the last five years, but it's got that distinct second wave sound, Norwegian black metal sound. Second wave meaning mayhem and on? Yes, exactly. 90s black metal. All right.

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I recommend checking them out. They released another album very recently, which is also really good, but I chose this one. Period. Okay, cool. Definitely check it out. I, in this slot, also have chosen an Icelandic band, Miss Thurming. Their album out of 2019, Aglame, is incredible. It's melodic,

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where it needs to be fast, heavy, just punches you in the mouth from start to finish. They have one of the more unique vocal performances of any black metal band out there at this point. And I think it's well worth anybody's time who's into that archetype of black metal. Good stuff.

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What's the name of the band again? Miss Thurming. So they're one of those bands that uses an Icelandic character. Yeah. M-I-S. If you're typing. I'll make it my name. Miss Thurming. I call them Miss Thurming. But that, yeah, that T-H is a separate character. It's also a Chinese band called Mr. Ming.

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You piece of shit.

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I mean.

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All right.

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Mark is on.

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My number five is Wayfarer World's Blood from 2018.

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This album is just an incredible mix of black metal and the sounds of the American West.

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I never knew I wanted a gunslinger metal until Mayfair came along.

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And now I require it.

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So I think this band really perfected their sound on World's Blood. I think it's their third record. So I'm really looking forward to the new record, Our Romance with Violence, which comes out next month. Well, you know, if you're looking for a fill-in, that Vital Spirit EP that I mentioned earlier, In the Faith That Looks Through Death, is also like Western black metal. Okay, cool. Check it out. Check it out, Charge. Great live show, those guys.

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Yeah.

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I haven't seen them live,

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but I would definitely like to catch them.

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Yeah.

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They play that was really good show.

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Everybody plays Atlas.

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I wish I could go to Atlas.

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It's great.

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It's yeah.

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It's stupid.

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Hawaii.

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Oh,

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paradise.

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No metal shows.

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Yeah.

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Just paradise.

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Just hell surfing.

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All right,

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Matt.

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My number five on the BM would be the fair of way world's blood.

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Oh, yeah, Matt!

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That's damn right.

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All right.

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On to John, then.

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All right, AJ, the album you're probably thinking about that I would put on this list,

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I do not have on my list at all.

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And there's a reason why, but we'll get to that later.

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All right.

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So my number five.

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Black Metal. What? Medicathonia. Number five. Wow. Is that even black metal? What is it? Yes, it is. It's definitely black metal. Yes, it is. I mean, so many black metal bands straddle the line and they put other things in them. This album is very black metal. Yeah, I was going to say. There's no question about this one. There's no question about it. That's true. All right, well.

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This will definitely be on Jay's list. My number five, Ukiyaru for Darkness. To subside. You always know exactly what I'm going to put on my list. Yeah, I know. It's uncanny. Our good friends from Wisconsin and Michigan, right? No.

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and Minnesota. Minnesota. Minnesota. Minnesota. Yeah. Yeah. We've talked about it enough times. I love those guys. This is not enough to where they're fucking from. I think you love black metal. You keep saying you don't really like it. Yeah. I agree. It is. There are certain it's growing on me. And I you like black metal with riffs, which is like. Yeah.

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The Darkness. That's the song by The Darkness. It's growing on me. Yeah. I'll take your word for it. I don't know. Jay, take us away from this. Yeah. Well, you're all going to think I counted wrong, though. I'm outing myself for meaning this is 2014, but I don't give a fuck. It's still staying in here. I didn't want to fix it. Romstein is not black metal, by the way. Either is Pat or the Hollywood Vampires. I usually could have put their release from this last year on it.

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But this one I like better. 1349 Massive Cauldron of Chaos. I love that. It's a good record. Yeah. And it came out late 2014. So I'm calling it the last five years. It's five years from today still. You could have put their release from like 15 years ago and I'd have been happy. You'd be fine with that. Cool. Yeah. And it needs no explanation for me. I like this J dude. Oh no. It's a common problem. Yeah. I think you and I can get along.

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Georgie. My number five is one of those crazy motherfuckers from Sweden. I mean, if I say crazy motherfucker from Sweden, do you know who I'm talking about? No, that's everyone. That's the whole country, man. No, man, it's Nicholas. Shining? Shining. Number nine. Oh, wow. Everyone, everything, everywhere ends. That's my number five. That guy's fucking crazy.

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That's just like, all right, I know like black metal is supposed to be like this loose cannon genre and there's not that many people anymore who still just like live it. He's like, he's like bipolar, crazy fucking shit. Yeah. Yeah. He's the kind of dude that if he has a category of what are we listening to, he'll do 26 albums. That's how that guy is. No, it's like if you're like an interviewer or something and you're interviewing him, you're just like,

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Am I going to be cut? You know, literally. Literally. Stabbed? Yeah. Shift? Is what you're looking for? Yeah, you're definitely going to be lambasted verbally. Like it's. Yeah, but that is some good shit. I'm sorry. No, he's a musical genius. Like, yeah, he's off his rocker, but he's really good at music. Yeah. All right. Well, back to you, Kerry, for number four. Okie doke. I guess I'm going with Sargat.

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The album Unbound from 2018. So this is back to Finland. Finland, Finland, Finland. Yeah. Sumo. Monty Python. Nobody left. That's cool. Sorry about that. Yeah. So yeah, Sargeist is, I guess, technically a side project of Chatraub from Horna. But they've been doing that for a good number of years.

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Unbound is just absolutely unfathomably good melodic black metal. It's really fucking good. They have parts that have polka beats and it's super cool. That's all I have to say about that. There was some band. I don't remember what they were called, but they were like a polka metal band. Like polka da cadaver or something? No, no, no.

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That's actually Baltimore Band. But no, it was... I fucking can't. I get so many promos, but it was literally like polka and metal. And it was like some weird Russian characters and shit. It was fucking weird. Anyway. Yeah. These guys just played it off as a derivation of a DB, basically. So it's kind of like a punky section, but it's just this one part that gets stuck in my head more than anything else off...

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How many albums you listen to, but like this one fucking like DB really goofy poke apart just from the unbound. It gets stuck in my head a lot. It's really, really good. Cool. Well, in my somewhat arbitrary numbering, uh, my number four is going to be devoid of light by water.

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Wow. I think we all know that album. Yeah. Yes. I'm going to wow that. Wow. Wow. Like it's not high enough for you. No. No. It's not my honorable mentions though. Yeah. Like wow. Like, okay. No, that's fine. Wow. You think so? That's good. Yeah. I really, I really liked that album. That was like, uh, I haven't been a black metal fan for,

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like decades. And that was one of the more recent albums that I really got into. So there are like two, three songs on there that I really fucking love. And that's why it's so high up for me. Plus, actually, just totally by chance, I think I've seen them more than any other black metal band.

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I think I've seen them like five times in the last three years or something.

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Yeah, dude, they'll come and play at your house if you want them to. They'll go anywhere.

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Probably, probably.

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But, yeah, I enjoyed that album a lot.

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They're making it in Hawaii, shit.

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And so that's my choice there.

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Moving on.

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All right.

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Brent, prospect.

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Also semi-arbitrary ordering, but in my fourth slot, I've got Watain out of Sweet 2018 album, Trident Wolf Eclipse. Yeah. Just an incredible album. It hardly bears, you know, mentioning just because they're one of the big bands that have stuck around for a long time. But Eric Danielson is an absolute genius of a songwriter. His vocal delivery never ceases to impress.

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That entire album start to finish is a masterpiece. I can't wait to see what he does next because they are one of those bands that seems like they do nothing but increase in skill and value as time goes on. You could say they mature quite a bit. Nice. I listened to that one quite a bit when I was putting together this list. Didn't make my list, but it's a really good record.

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Yeah.

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Well, and what is your number four, Marcus?

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My number four is Bestia Arcana Holocaust.

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Oh, I own that.

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I have a copy of that.

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Oh, you should because it's fantastic.

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Very good.

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It's over there.

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From 2017 on Dark Descent Records.

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Fuck it.

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Really ferocious, unforgiving, and theatrical black metal with just an unearthly, epic quality

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to the tracks.

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It almost sounds like an evil opera set in the netherworld with these like sermon like vocals. And the record features some of the best drumming I think of the last five years by Menthor. So if you like drumming, it's definitely a good album for that. I like drumming. It's kind of behemothy is how I categorize it. I don't know if it's just the vocals. Lots of children.

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You know the like Nurgle style like he has that like weird like yelly thing going on. It's not like pure like scream and it's not pure like he just has that like mixed like. It's like a theatrical sermon like vocals like I have. Sure yeah. That was a pretty good short imitation you did. Yeah not bad at all. I'm going to be timekeeper a little bit.

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One minute on each of these, we still got 45 minutes to go. So Matt. All right. My number four, probably no shock to anybody. This album came out in 2015. I believe it is part three of a trilogy. The band is Panopticon. The album is Autumn Eternal. I kind of got into Panopticon at the start of the trilogy. I believe that was Roads to the North. And yeah, I've been a fan ever since. This one, it has a little bit of the Americana in there, but mostly sticks to, you know, kind of that US

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black metal sound. Yeah, that's all I'd say. I knew you would have Panopticon on there somewhere. I thought he would have the scars of man. That was what I was. I initially did. And then I initially did. And then I was checking dates and I wanted to be technically. Kentucky was within the time. Jay doesn't give a fuck about dates. Oh yeah, for sure. Totally agree. Well, my, my, that's because that one dates all the way back to 1349. Fuck man, I can't, you know, what are you going to do?

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The first black metal.

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Well, John.

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John.

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My number four is Throsenblatt Medicothonium.

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Great.

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Sean.

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That just blew everybody's head.

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Sorry.

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My number four, German band Farsat Failure.

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Came out 2017.

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Nice.

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I forgot about that one. Yeah, I think I do too. Yeah, that's how much I liked it. That's how much I liked it. All right, Will. I'm really curious that Will actually could come up with five. Hey, this genre goes deeper. Are you talking about black metal, Will? Dylon, Dylon, Dylon, Dylon. Go, Will, go. I know when I say one of my times, it's going to be like,

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That should have been on my list. No.

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But number four. Soar.

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Forgotten past.

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Nice.

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Sayor.

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Sour.

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Nice.

03:43:06.980 --> 03:43:07.080
Yeah.

03:43:07.640 --> 03:43:08.940
I did talk to these guys.

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These guys played Atlas.

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And I asked them straight up.

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Like, how do you pronounce it?

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They're from Scotland.

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He's like, oh, we're pronouncing it.

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Soar.

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I'm like, sayor?

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Like, no.

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Soar.

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It's like, I got a sore thumb.

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But anyway, fucking great folky black metal. It's fucking awesome. I'm proud of you, Will, for picking that. That's a great album. And when they play live, it was a great show. Such a good show. And I will, a little bit of spoiler alert, they play with Wayfarer, which I fucking love Wayfarer. But when I was putting together this list, it was kind of like I just went back and looked through my year-end list and just picked one, except there's one that I did not pick on a year-end list.

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And it was a massive oversight, which is on my list now. Fair enough. Jay. Also, when Wayfair played Atlas, they had a bunch of technical issues and like the power kept fucking going. Oh my God. That was that show. Yeah. Can I, can I just explain that? Cause I got, we got so much so bad. Yes. Yes. So like I had to fucking solve that. Yeah. So that sucked. So real quick, um, uh, Blake, Blake set up,

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The Blake set up all like the power system and we have all these like random places that we have power coming out but we always make sure that it's coming from different places well somebody in one of the bands rerouted everything and daisy chained everything back to like one outlet so there's a YouTube video of when they lost power and I was like out in the tap room real quick and I had to go back and just set up set up in the back by you can see me behind

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the gristmill behind the stage at the power box because they kept tripping a breaker so they tripped the breaker a couple times and then we had to re-figure it out but that was not on atlas at all they re they re-figure reconfigured all that stuff i remember experiencing it and i'd i identified their power failure um you know as one of the kind of frequent patrons and

03:45:21.121 --> 03:45:49.180
helper of runners of some of that stuff occasionally, however peripherally. I felt somehow responsible if however peripheral to the situation. Obviously, you guys took care of everything, but seeing their daisy chain on stage, obvious failure right in front of you. Very fixable thing, but somebody just plugged in their power strip into their power strip into that person's power strip.

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Every amp blew up all at once. Yeah. Have you guys never had land parties as kids? Like, do you not know how this works? You guys never played the vampires? Come on. Yeah. Come on. All right. Come on. Come on. Jay. All right. My number four is apparently a bunch of guys who don't know how to do electricity. It's Warfare. It's World's Blood. Idiots. Well, you just got into Warfare, didn't you? I did. Boy, that's a big one. That one's getting a lot of play.

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I can hear the horses and trains. It's just so good. That's it. No comment for me. My number four. None of you will have it on your list. Nadinga. The high heat licks against heaven. What'd you call me? Nadinga. Nadinga. We've conversed on the pronunciation of

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that much, but Nidinger?

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Nidinger.

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Okay, there you go.

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I don't know.

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The high heat that licks against Tevin.

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Good shit.

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Back to Kerry.

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Number three.

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All righty.

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You're on number three already?

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Yep.

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Don't say already, dude.

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All righty.

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You only said one so far.

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We are just about to cross the four-hour mark.

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Yeah.

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All right, so for this one I've got Yellow Eyes, Immersion Trench Reverie from 2017. I don't know. I've already stated that I like Icelandic black metal, and I think that these guys do such a cool job of using, I don't know, like their guitars just become such a whacked out, like just discordant harmony of weird things going on. But I've never really heard anything like it.

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I can't say that it super inspires me to do anything. I don't know. I don't want to imitate it or anything, but it's just like it's such a unique category of music. And I think it's just worth mentioning. So yeah, Yellow Eyes for sure. Awesome. I love Yellow Eyes. That is the best of the... They've released three albums in the last five years. I think that's the best. They've all been really, really good. They're all great. If Sick With... Well, no, Sick With Bloom, I think, is even within our time frame. It is. It's 2015, so... Yeah. Both of those records, I thought were fucking...

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Great. Yes. Their most recent one, also good. I, you know, just a little bit less. I completely agree with you because it's more, I don't know what I want to say. It's more dissonant. And I like when they put more melody in it. They do a mix usually. Totally agree. Yeah. Also very, very nice guys. They're based out of New York. They came down, we played a show with them at Atlas. Where all good things happen apparently. And I bought,

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I just got immersion trench reverie from them on vinyl and they gave me a copy of rear field ceiling signed it and everything just because they're awesome guys they just want people to enjoy their music so expressing genuine interest and delight in their music was enough for them to well and I just think the first brothers are really fucking good dudes yeah they're really nice guys they just do things that take black metal to another level a different level that no one else does

03:49:19.760 --> 03:49:49.720
you were saying so yeah agreed they recorded spring peepers and put it on their album yeah no actually that is a great candid peeper yeah no just like one interesting thing that those guys do i think really really well is using like field recordings right not a lot of guys do that that well but they'll go to like i mean very very obscure places like ukraine or whatever and just be like hey we want to meet with like a chorus of you know townsfolk please sing us traditional songs and then you guys probably know this but you know they'll sing a bunch of happy

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Monarch. It's M-O-N-A-R-Q-U-E. And this isn't a full-off. Monarque. Monarque. Monarque. That sounds like a bunch of monarchy. It's actually an EP. It's like 21, 22 minutes long. But it's called Jusque à la Mort. Or like something until death, I guess.

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2019.

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It's fantastic, somewhat raw, but melodic black metal.

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It's three songs long.

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It's very powerful, emotive black metal.

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And it's when I'm stressed or emotional, I like to go on walks and smoke cigarettes or cigars.

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And this is an album that I always come back to and listen to in those times. And I don't know. That's why I like it so much. I don't know. You'll be doing that right after this cast. Yeah. Yeah. Probably so. But I hope that's something that no one has heard before. It's a little bit obscure.

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I'll fucking listen to it. It's great. I'll check it out. Period. All right. Brent. Line number three. I guess looking at my list, I realized how I went with a lot of obvious answers. But all the same, I scratched out in times because I thought that was too old, but that's 2015. But E, enslaved.

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2017 is what I had scribbled down in my number three slot. Both of those albums, you know, it's kind of a tie in that slot because I think they're continuations on a similar theme. But they are just the gold standard of bands that just don't quit these days. Everything they do is so fucking good. I haven't heard the latest record, at least in complete

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fashion like you guys have yet but man i they've been absolutely killing the

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quarantine thing with their live performances the albums they've put out just blow me away sacred

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horse is probably in my top three metal songs of the last five years i just love how that song comes

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together at the end.

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It just builds the entire time.

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Thank you.

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Beer delivery system?

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Yeah, we're trading off runs downstairs.

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Nice.

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Enslaved.

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Incredible.

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Enough said.

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I'm going to hear that one a couple more times.

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Yeah.

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Maybe.

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Maybe.

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All right.

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Moccasone.

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Yeah.

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My number three is Nakash Phantasmal Triunity 2018 on Shadow Kingdom Records. This is a band from Oslo. They play a muscular black metal that's megadosed with an eldritch death metal and just ripping melodic guitar riffs. So this album was recommended to me by a record store owner in Norway when I visited a few years ago. And it's one of the best cold recommendations I've ever gotten.

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I do like a lot of black metal. I always have lots of black metal on my list, but I feel like I'm more of a death metal guy, and this is kind of like a mix between the two, but definitely more black metal than death, but that's what I like in my black metal. I like Will. I like good riffs. That's why I like Schalder's album. So, Nakash Phantasmal Triunity. Definitely check it out if you have not. It's really good.

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N-A-C-H-A-S-H. N-A-C-H. The way you described that at first reminded me of a quote from Wedding Crashers. It's like, it's sexual and violent. Follow that, Matt. I will try my best. I will try my best. Okay.

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Number three is a band who, I guess, for which album I chose, it really depends on what day it is and how bitchy I feel. And as I'm going this week, like I really love Devoid of Light, but I have to call the Dying Sun from 2018. And both of you guys, huh? I think that's the better record. I do too. I like Cult of the Dying Sun better too. Their first record is better.

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in my opinion. Fair enough. Yeah. I think the second one just has like a lot of those fucking monkey vocals and like I just. Monkey vocals. Monkey vocals. I don't know what's fucking going on with that, man. Like, I don't know why people like that. Like, you can do it. Like, it just didn't sound good. Sorry. Monkey vocals. Really nice guys, though. I know what he's talking about. I can't do the imitation. I've never heard it described that way, but I actually do like it. I do.

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- You might call the howler monkey vocal.

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What matters is Matt Lyson because it's his pick.

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I like Iwata. I like monkeys.

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And I like Iwata.

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Youwata like it.

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I also like the monkeys.

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Hey, hey, we're the monkeys.

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I did try to set myself a reminder to not say negative things about anything.

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No, go for it, dude.

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No, I was like, I really like it.

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Black metal, we're supposed to shit on everybody else.

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Yeah, do whatever.

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That's what it is.

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But that does bring us to jam. Let's do that. Let's all be jam. My number three is not Wayfarer. Thank God. I only have one album from this band. I never really got into early stuff, but they've got like 452 releases. Album 2. Blue. I'll snore down. Blue in the gin. Last year. Interesting. That's a good one.

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Not the best, but it's good. Well, it's different for them. That was a big change for them. I like that album. Well... Number three, Riding Christ, The Heretics. Wow. That's an awesome pick. Okay. Surprise and respect. Yeah, I really... It's kind of like borderline, not black metal at this point. It's like top black metal at this point. Yeah, but I don't know. Rituals.

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I don't know man you have to give it to Rotting Christ though like yeah

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you're called Rotting Christ it's gotta be black yeah yeah I was I've not been a long fan of Rotting Christ and I don't really know much of the early catalog but when I heard Triarchy I I was liking it so that's my name I almost chose Rituals which I think fell within the time but in any case a good choice no no Rituals does fall within the time it just I don't know that as well as I knew uh they're very similar albums this is a cool random fact the guy that does my

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Tattoos is he's from Athens, Greece and he's friends with the guys in Rotting Christ, the two original brothers that were in the band. He's done some of his tattoos as well. Nice. Yeah. That's all I gotta say about that. That's all you gotta say about that. My number three, I think we're on three. This is the one that I predict Will will be like, I would have chosen those guys if I realized that we were going to consider them a black metal band, but they are a self-proclaimed black metal band. And not unlike unscathed

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They're not as progressive as enslaved, but they've produced so many good records in a row. And I'm sure they're working on a new one. Yeah, like there's some weird sub scenes within black metal in Europe. Like the Greek scene is really unique. And there's like the whole like Italian scene, like mortuary drape and all that. Like it sounds very distinct from what, you know, the stereotypical black metal is like from Scandinavia. But it's still black metal and it's still fun.

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- Well this is, but here's what I'm gonna call black metal and the part where Will gets disappointed in himself. Goat Whore, Vengeful Ascension is a black metal record. - That was, I just scratched that from my list before the podcast. No, no, it was on my list. - Well I just thought of it though, 'cause I thought you were gonna be like, fuck. But now that's stated, I just think the last like four or five records have all been fantastic. And Vengeful Ascension is no let down. - I mean, I love Goat Whore, but I wouldn't call them black metal.

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They would call themselves old school black metal. They're like black metal! Really? They're like black trash though. Yeah, they're black trash. No, Sammy is older than all of you guys. Sammy was brought up on Bathory and all that stuff. Sammy writes black metal. It's old school black metal. Dude, I feel like if you were contemporary with like that kind of stuff, you can call it what you want. I'll be like, exactly. That's fine. I'm not gonna argue it, but I wouldn't go there. Sure. But whatever. That's fine. No, I knew it would be a little controversial.

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I mean, we're fucking whipping. I mean, Jay's already got an album from 2014. Let the man just do it. He's off the rails. He's going to do whatever. His number one pick is going to be like fucking Devo or some shit. He's totally Jay-ing this category. He's doing whatever the fuck he wants. No matter what the category is or the criteria, I always just think, now what are five albums I like for whatever reason? But I'm standing by my goat horse. I think they're fucked up. All right. Yeah, Korgie.

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So my number three,

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in the early 80s,

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there was a movie,

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very early 80s,

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there was a movie about King Arthur called Excalibur.

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Oh,

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I love that.

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Anol Nathrak.

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And from that,

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you take Anol Nathrak,

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the whole of the law.

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Anal Nathrak.

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Anal Nathrak.

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Anal,

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nice.

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Anol Nathrak.

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But hey, you know, at least I knew it was from Excalibur. Now I want to watch that movie. Yeah. Yeah. It's also got boobies in it. So do a lot of movies. Yeah. It's no Penny Hill. Jay for the win. All right. Carry number two. Okey doke. I got.

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Taka, Kong Vinter 2017. I mean, you don't need to talk about those guys, I assume. Nah. Yeah, cool. What does the Kong mean? It means King Vinter. King Vinter. Yeah. So like the Game of Thrones knight, the blue guy. White Lockers? Yeah, what was that guy's name? The Night King. Night King, yeah.

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Produced by a bunch of HBO fuckos. It's Hess, and he's probably wearing white jeans on stage because he fucking does that. So, yeah. Is he in Death Heaven? No. Have you guys not seen Taka? Jesus. No, I'm sorry. He wears white jeans sometimes, or he used to. Like in the early days, he actually did. When he had hair. Yeah, when he had hair. He would wear a freaking blue jean vest, sawed off, and then just white jeans,

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And then corpse pain. I don't know. Looked great. He pulled it off. Yeah. I would say it would not work. Would you let him fuck you in the ass? Oh, for sure. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Again. But what if Dio was in line? And Dio was like, hey. I want little Dio to fucking kill. Dio is the last in line. Yeah, Dio's got to hold on. Wait, Dio. It's not your turn. F marry, kill. Yeah. Dio, Take.

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or Brent? Okay. All right. So my only question is, where is Tony Levin in this lineup? I'm done. I'm done. How about you? Number two. Wait, what? Two. Number two. My number two? Yeah. I'm going to have to go with Nordjevil by Nordjevil.

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That's a good one. 2016. Um. I like. It's my favorite fucking drummer, Dominator. Well, actually on this album, I'm lying. It wasn't Dominator drumming on the studio album. It was, uh, Frederick Weedigs, or as I like to say, Wingdings, like the font. But, um. Ever font? Anyway.

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I fucking love Nordjevel. They're good. Even though we didn't know who they were before we got to Norway. Yes. I've come to love them. Some people would call it like what Norse core that like dark funeral style super high tempo high BPM black metal. But it's really fucking good. There are like several tracks on that album that I love.

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And it's in my very regular rotation. They released an album, was it last year? Maybe the year before, Necrogenesis. That was really fucking good too, but I liked their earlier one better. And so I've got to go with that. Cool. I like them. Brent. My number two is Band of Germany, Der Weig Einer Freiheit.

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In 2017, they released the album Finisterre, which is an absolute masterpiece. It's one of those albums that anybody who hasn't listened to it is making a mistake. So for you guys, if you are unfamiliar with it, I see we are making mistakes. Yeah, blank faces right now. We had the privilege of seeing them at the Inferno Festival in

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Norway last year. I don't think they've done a US tour, or if they have, we weren't there. But they've got a few albums under their belt now, and they just sound incredible. Their sound is enormous, huge melodic passages, just brutal riffs.

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some of the most complex, I wouldn't necessarily call it prog black metal, but there are certainly elements of that, and that's, you know, that proggy creep in black metal is something I'm always a huge fan of, and they are masters of the craft. Derweig, Einer Freyheit, Finister. Check it out. I will. Check it out, I will. I know.

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All right, Mark is on. Number two for me is Yellow Eyes Immersion Trench Reverie from 2017, Gilead Media. I mean, we talked about a little bit, Yellow Eyes is one of my favorite black metal bands just because they've been pushing that genre to places that know their band really does. So it's menacing guitars on this thing, just bleak atmospherics,

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The Field Recordings, like it was mentioned before, really foreboding, powerful soundtrack that's really well-balanced between the melody and the dissonance. And my favorite of the last five years, I would say, for Yellow Eyes. Love it. Hammer of Night, I think, might be my favorite all-time Yellow Eyes record, but this is pretty close. Amen.

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All right, Matt.

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So, we have a theme here.

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This is another band where I have three releases to choose from, and it really depends on which day of the week it is and how I feel about it, because all three of them were going to be my choice.

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But I am going to go with Rearfield Ceiling from Yellow Eyes, because...

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I don't know. That's just how I feel today.

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I love this band. I love their sound.

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Like Markson says, this is one of my favorite black metal bands these days. It's like a soundtrack to a 70s horror film is what I equate their sound to be. And yeah, I love it. Interesting. It's a great album. It just falls more on the dissonant side for me, and I don't like that as much. But I like that they do something different every single time. Absolutely. Yeah. All right, John.

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So for my number two,

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I had a similar thought pattern as Brenton phrase number three.

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However,

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I went with the other choice.

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It was a toss up.

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I could have taken in slaves E,

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but I went with in times just because I listened to it recently.

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And for today,

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it's going to take that spot,

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but it is a toss up between the two.

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But for me today,

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enslaved in times from 2015.

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All right.

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I love that record.

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Will? George, I'm about to blow your mind, and then you're going to blow your load. Man, I'm Joey. Keep talking. Not sure he has anything left in the tank, buddy. Keep talking. Thrasenblatt, Metathonia. Number two. At the time, when George started blowing his load in 2016 all over Thrasenblatt,

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I was completely over my head. Didn't know anything about them. I kept talking about it. This is like one I think in the last episode I was on when we talked about what name of band that George told you about Thross and Block because he told us about it every fucking day. But I missed the boat on this album in 2016 and I love it now. As one should. Yeah. All right. All right. Mine is

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It's already been said once. I went the other way, John. I went with Enslaved E. So I matched up with Brent on that one. I still have to decide where the new one falls in their own overall category, even though I'm calling it a high watermark for this year. I'm not necessarily saying that for Enslaved, but I'm not sure yet. But I think E is really their best record, even though I'm crazy about everything they've done. But it's just such a good fucking record. You better get it together soon, Jay, because we've got to put our lists. I know. Fuck, dude.

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I know. I just like, I tell me that I said, knock on any easier. Yeah. Seriously, dude. Yeah. Lists are fucked this last year. Jay and I are trying to put together our lists for enslaved for ranking the album. So, cause this dude on, uh, on YouTube is going to do his, he's going to do it. He just announced it. That's hard to try to rank all the enslaved albums and from least, least great to great. That's a really, that's a big challenge.

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Pretty fucking hard, dude.

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Because you feel like you're saying, I don't like this one.

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And I know that's not what you're saying.

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Yeah.

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That's the hard part.

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It's like, it's like you're calling one of them bad or something.

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Well, that's the thing with ranking.

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Cause usually at the bottom are albums that aren't that good.

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When it's like, that's not the case.

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They're all really good.

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They've just never made anything bad.

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George, number two.

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My number two to call back to previous years is.

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by Enslaved.

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Well, and we both had it as our number one that year, if I'm not mistaken.

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Is that right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Great record.

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Just all over, overall.

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Cool.

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Let's get these number ones out of the funny.

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Was that a Monty Python reference, by the way?

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No, it's just that when we talked about it, when it came out, that was what we did on the episode.

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We were like, ee, ee.

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They were drunk, Will. Yeah, we were drunk, yeah. So, all right, Kerry, number one. Yeah, number one is, Brent mentioned it, but Der Wegener Freyhead Finister from 2017. That record is insane. Yeah, just discovered that from a metal blog, I think. Just blew my fucking doors off. Like, the record is absolutely insane. Yeah. I think Brent did a nice job of summing it up, but if you guys have not

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you should do it. Hold on. You probably better say it so that I can type it. Slowly. Just make it as your name again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, what's your name? Oh, okay. Well, yeah, I'm in missterming right now. Dear, vag, minor. It's actually like... I've been drinking for four hours. I can't read. It means the way of freedom in German. Yeah. But yeah.

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That band is fucking insane, man. Like, if you guys haven't listened to, like, they have a couple of previous records that are also just absolutely astronomically good. Gorgeous. Yeah, it's so good. I have so many albums, it's probably in my list, and I don't even know it. I mean, we gotta listen to it. Accelerate it. I would say accelerate it to the forefront of your listening. Like, it is so goddamn emotional. It's, like, it's, Jesus. Like, I haven't heard anything that hit me that hard. Like, yeah, I would have to. I would have to. There are also one of those bands,

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whose individual musicianship is just so enormously mind-blowing. When you have that level of professionalism musically among every single player in the band, it's just a recipe for success. And those guys are unbelievable. I hearted it. Awesome. All right. Well, Tommy, what do you think is number one?

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is the album Hecatomb by Funeral Mist. Wow. That's nice. Do you guys know that? Yeah, I do. Listen to it. Fuck yeah. I'm happy someone knows it. I chose these somewhat intentionally to like spread a little bit of less known underground knowledge through the...

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Do you guys know that? Yeah. That was good. Perfect. All right. I want to keep pushing. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. But, um, yeah, so the vocalist is the, this band is a side project of the Marduk vocalist. And, uh, I actually like this band a lot better than Marduk. Amazing musicians. The drummer is, is Lars. Um,

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Ulrich? Not Ulrich. Lars Brod is something. But he drummed for Marduk. But anyway, the musical variety of this band is so much more than what Marduk has to offer, in my opinion. There's one song on this album in particular where they have these... It's like a slower song. It's not blast beats all the way through like you would expect from a Marduk album.

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And they've got like these chancy vocals and it almost sounds to me like Native American kind of chants. Obviously it's not because they're all from fucking Scandinavia. But it's very powerful. It's emotional for me. That's what I value in black metal is moving music. Music that makes you feel something and moves you. That's what this album does for me. And so that's why I chose it for my number one.

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Awesome.

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Cool.

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All right.

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Brent? Mine, again, keeping in the theme of bands that everybody's heard of, and they're good for a reason, Dark Funeral, We're Shadows Forever Rain. Nice. 2016, that album stomps ass. They've never put out a bad record, but that one is just a

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The Triumphant Victory of Black Metal Music. Aye. Just crushing melodies. Aramon's guitar parts are flawless. Obviously, Dominator's drumming is fast and unrelenting throughout. The new vocalist. Oh, your moderate. Yeah, I'm our. He's just stepped in and did a great job.

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that band. A lot of people see it as a step backwards for the band, which I completely disagree with. I think they've done nothing but progress through the years. That album is a masterpiece. Scaldor would not exist as Scaldor does without that album. Right on. Hell yeah, Dark Funeral. We all fucking love Dark Funeral. I mean, I can't disagree, rather. Sorry.

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All right, mark us on. My number one, this is the second record on Profound Lore Records, 2016, and it is Cobalt, Slow Forever. Oh, yes. Oh, my God, I love that album so much. Yeah, you should. It's fucking kick-ass. When I think of black metal, I don't immediately think of infectious towering riffs and magnetic hooks, but fortunately, Cobalt did. I wrote this album.

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Because it is an aggressive album that injects sludge, crust, thrash, and American folk into its pitch black fucking heart. That was my number two that year. Masterpiece. I'm Googling that right now. It's a masterpiece. Oh, if you don't know that, oh my god, that is... Yeah, I'm unfamiliar. Cobalt? Cobalt, yeah. Yeah, Cobalt. That was my number two. Only number one behind something else. Sorry, I guess. And it's a double album. It's like 84 minutes, but all the same.

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Kick-Ass. You may not recognize it as black metal, but it's so good. I mean, like we said, we genre hop so much, and none of our backgrounds are exclusively black metal. It's got the singer from Lord Mantis on that one. But just objectively speaking, you're going to like this record. The logos are very black metal. I mean, anything Cobalt is good. Anything Cobalt is good. It's good musical. You guys, if you haven't listened,

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It's gonna kick your ass cuz it fucking rips. I'm excited for you to listen to it for the

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first time. So good. Pretty fucking good. Cool. All right. Let's keep moving them. Matt. All right. My number one was also my number one and I believe 2017. I went with E by enslaved. It again was a toss up between that that and in times and today it is E. If I were listening to building with fire,

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It would be in times right away, even though that whole record's great. It's just I like that fucking song so much. But I still. Dreaming gets me every time. Yeah. Yeah. Just the way they open the album. Perfect. Yeah. It's just the heaviest shit you've ever heard. And then it turns like proggy as you go. Yeah. So good. All right, John. Well, if you like that intro, wait to hear the new album. Yeah. God damn it, John. Don't tell me this shit.

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head.

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I can't be wrong.

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I can't be wrong.

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No, I'm serious.

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But he's actually.

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Yeah, it is.

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It's awesome.

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The fucking bang.

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I'm already excited.

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All right.

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So you only hear Jay and I talking about this album.

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And it's always this one song.

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But I love this whole album.

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It's like 32 minutes long.

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It's not very long.

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But it's from the hotbed of black metal.

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Well, they actually are now a little bit.

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But it's from England.

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The band is called Woad.

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And the album is called Servants of the Counter Cosmos from 2017.

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That's a really good choice. And to be honest with you, I, wow, that's a good choice. So John, I like, I'm not familiar with them, but like where would you put them within this subgenre? So they're black and they have like a black and roll kind of thing a little bit. Fuck. I like it. I love black. But, but Jay and I, Jay and I will swear to the ends of the earth that the second song has one of the best riffs in probably 10 years. Yeah.

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It's just like a world stopper. But the record itself is just fucking great. And let's just say it comes up every once in a while. We haven't heard from them in a while. So hopefully we'll get something new pretty soon. I think it's the album before. Are they the ones that did the drink from the skull of your father? No, no, no. No, the one before that is like pure black metal. That's just Catholic mass. The first one is just straight up black metal. And the second one, they started doing it.

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A little more. I gotta figure out where the fuck that song came from. But they're both good, but that second album is just preferable. Yeah. Yeah, the only reason I asked is because, like, England has this incredible thing for, like, atmospheric black metal, and I'm not very into that. No, it's not that. It's not that. Just straight black metal. Cool, cool, cool. Atmospheric is code for we can't produce our fucking shit. Yeah. Yeah. Go like, whoa, dude. We saw.

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I fucking seeded it. Some people were crying with happiness that they were at that show. And I thought it was the most boring shit I've ever seen. I would be surprised if you don't like Wotan. I was thinking of the band Wotan. I don't know why. I just, I remember playing Age of Empires 2 as a child. And the Woot Raiders were the unique unit of the Kelps. Or Selps, or whatever.

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Hard C. That's a hard C. Hard C. That's racist. But anyway, yeah. I'm going to check it out because I don't know this band or this album. Period. My number one is a beautiful symphony of black metal. Oh, really? All the way from Winnipeg.

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Wilt Ruin.

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I knew it.

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Oh, that's a good one.

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Still love that album.

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It got on vinyl.

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It's great.

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Wilt.

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Wilt.

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It's a really good album.

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Will Wilt.

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Yes.

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Album name is Ruin.

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Pretty easy to remember.

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Yep.

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So, for my number one, I know John knows what I was about to say because I thought he

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was going to say it, but I'm saying it for my own benefit.

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He could have gone with the previous record though too. Because I know there's a rip on him to max him over. But I think these guys are stretching the boundaries harder than other bands right now. Ronsi Pazuzu, Barrahead. I didn't put it. I just think they're more than just black metal. They are. No, they are. You're not wrong about that. In fact, they are almost their own genre at this point. But I'll represent us both with that one.

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I thought of Wode would probably put that somewhere on my list. But yeah, Ransi Pazuzu is really fucking going to new places. And that record is compulsively listenable. Once you put it on, you're kind of screwed for a few days. Yeah, good shit. All right, well. Was that the pronunciation, John? I guess. I don't know. I think it's Farah Talia. I don't know. That one doesn't seem super effectable.

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I don't think there's much of a way to pronounce that otherwise. Well, Pazuzu is a term that comes from the exorcist and around Seattle. I don't think you can get wrong. So Pazuzu I've heard and seen before. Yeah. No, I think you're safe on that one. Georgie, bring it home. All right. Well, I know that anybody on this podcast is not even going to be surprised by this one, but this one comes from my brother from a Canadian mother. And that is,

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Thrasenblat 3 Metathonia. There can only be one. I was actually just talking to Joel the other day. And I told him, I was like, dude, you're topping another list. And he was like, yay. But, you know. And Joel said, George, how do you keep getting my new numbers? I can't even tell you about the shit.

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that we're talking about, but there's some shit coming. Some new shit coming. Oh, geez. He's probably like, again, listen to something else, George. Nah, man. This is Canadian libelous. Like, we're okay, man, but. Yeah, I don't even like their record anymore. That's Joel talking to me. Oh, God. Let's wrap this up. Yeah, here we are at the end. But it was fun. You guys are a fucking treat, dude. Like, seriously. You guys are troopers. Thank you. Yeah. Four hours and 30 minutes.

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How long this goes. Fuck that. Thank you guys so much for having us on here. We are really appreciative. This is fantastic. Well, we appreciate it. I think I know at least three of us who are wearing a shirt love your album. Yeah, no, thank you guys so much. Like, that's ridiculous. I mean, Jay probably hate it, but, you know. No, I do like it. He hates all of our friends. It's a kick-ass album. It's really great. It is. Very much. It is. We asked you, yeah, because we like your album. No, thank you guys very much. Like, we really appreciate it.

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Everybody except Jay. Thank you all. Fuck Jay. Jay, fuck off. You picked up on the local etiquette really quick. They're nice to know. But seriously, yeah, go on Bandcamp, pick it up. Scald our side of our errors. Pick it up. Be the 123rd person to get it. We dare you. Be the 523rd person to get it. Yeah. Just 137 now.

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I fucking get it. Oh, shoot. Seriously. It's like false advertising over here. I'm getting the fuck out of here. Nice job, guys. You guys are fucking great. Thanks for coming on. Love you, boys. Thanks for having us, guys. Good talking to you. Have a great night. We'll talk to y'all later. See ya. Peace. And also war. It really war. Nobody mentions war. Yeah. They all go peace, but it's really war.

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I've had my share of war. Insane. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true, Will. That's true. All right, see ya. Oh, click the big leave button. All right, peace. All right, Anthony. See ya. Bye. Good job.

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I'm on the moon

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