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Metalhead Podcast. Metalhead Podcast. Go!

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You must deserve that.

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You must deserve that.

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You must deserve that.

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Now, here is the podcast, Metalheads Podcast Go.

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Hello and welcome to the Metalheads Podcast. My name is George.

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This is Jay.

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This is Will.

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This is John.

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This is Matt.

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This is Markisan.

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And we are joined today by Andy Horn and Jonah Livingston of Richmond, Virginia's Loud Night.

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Welcome, guys.

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Welcome, guys.

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What's up?

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Hello.

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Would you guys please introduce yourselves and tell us what you do in the band?

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I'm Andy, and I sing and play bass in Loud Night.

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My name's Jonah.

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I play drums and hang out.

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All right.

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That way people can, you know, identify the voice with who you are.

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All right.

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So back in September, you released your first album, your full album, anyway.

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Mind-numbing pleasure.

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Congrats on that.

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I love that name by the way. What was it? How was it releasing it during the pandemic? Did you plan to release it then? Did you record it during the pandemic? It was weird releasing it during the pandemic. It was we were about to it looked like we were going to have a few issues releasing it prior to the pandemic when it was ready. And then had a local record store vinyl conflict opted to put

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out. And we were really stoked about that. And then the pandemic hit and we, of course, everything got shelved for the first couple months of trying to everybody get their feet with what was going on in the world. And then, yeah, the record store hit us up and was like, hey, are you still cool if we put out the record? Yeah, that'd be awesome. I think you guys scrapped it. I think we thought that it was just wasn't going to come out, honestly. I mean, I wouldn't blame anyone at the beginning of all this to think like everything is

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everything.

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You know what I mean? Every single industry.

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I don't know.

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At the time, I think we figured like he's not going to want to do this record.

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And then he hit us up and was like, let's kind of pause for a minute and let me take stock.

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You know, owning a record store when people can't go shopping, you know, it's like, obviously, don't blame the dude for being like, let's just kind of hit the brakes for a minute.

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And I think once we kind of resigned ourselves, that this thing might just be shelved.

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He was like, ah, fuck it.

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Let's just do it anyway.

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Who cares?

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For what it's worth, man, I was about this close to like, okay, let's just go Road Warrior. You know what I mean? So who knew what was going to happen? Definitely. And somehow it worked. I mean, our buddy Bobby, he releases a lot of local like hardcore records and like some death metal stuff. And what's his store? It's called Vinyl Conflict Records. Where you guys are from? Yeah, it's like the metal punk kind of home base here. And and he put it out.

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Like, him included, I think we were all just like, big question mark. Like, is this, like, releasing a record when you can't play shows just seems insane. Well, especially nowadays, because that's really how you're making your money. Yeah, and even in my experience, if you don't play all our records. Actually, we get our source of heavy metal dollars these days. I'd be interested to know in the broader scope for anybody here who wants to take a guess, but maybe you guys can answer it, if the lack of shows has

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I mean, I know you don't have a previous record to compare it to, but I assume you sold a few copies. It did way better than I thought it would. Maybe that's it. That could be part of it. Well, it's a pretty damn good record, man. Okay, so there's that too. Did it come out first? Did you guys release the digital and band camp first before the physical copy came out or was it all together? Yeah, same time. We leaked a song a little bit ahead of time as a benefit for

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You guys probably saw on the news all the stuff that was going on in Richmond, I mean across the country, but the George Floyd murders kind of kicked off a lot of protesting, and Richmond has a ton of old Confederate statues. That was a big point of contention locally and across the country, and we tried to, we had a song that was basically when they declared like a curfew for Richmond, we're like, oh yeah, we got that song Curfew that's about this

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that is the exact thing happening right now. So let's release that and use that as like a fundraiser to donate to some cool POC nonprofits and organizations that are trying to make the world a better place. So we leaked a song ahead of time to do some fundraising, but otherwise everything was released at the same time. That's cool. Are you aware of COVID having slowed down any of the pressing that happened? Was there anything?

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It's just, I mean, we've talked to others who have been delayed. I can tell you one thing that slowed it down. So there's been a couple presses so far, two presses and something a third in the works. But the first press was delayed a little bit because of COVID. We had it printed locally in Virginia at a place called Blue Sprocket Pressing, which is, despite what I'm about to tell you, is still in business and they're doing great work as always. But it's a cool small business, does amazing.

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Vinyl Pressing. And then the second press was delayed because the record plant blew up. Nope. It exploded. I don't know if you saw that in the news. Actually, yeah, I remember that. So I think they decided it's in Harrisonburg, Virginia. And I think the final verdict was there was like a gas leak, you know, a strip mall directly next door to it. And I mean, it blew up. Yeah, dude, fuck that. You got to exploit that shit. You need to tell people it was because they were pressing the heaviest fucking record in existence.

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We set it back to mastering. They turned it down a couple DB. We're back in business, boys. Yeah, I remember that because I go to Harrisonburg a couple times a year and I was like, hey. I mean, I picked up the records the first time. I was like, oh, yeah, that's where I parked and made my wife sit in the car for like an hour. I was like, glad we didn't blow up. Yeah. Damn. So we didn't really get to this.

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We didn't really introduce you.

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Um, like the type of music and stuff.

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So talk a little bit about loud night, the band, um, talk about like,

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you know, former ramming speakers.

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I'm curious.

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And I, then I talked to you, Jonah, when we were at Atlas one time for a little bit,

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uh, you know, about what happened to ramming speed and, you know, me usually when I'm at

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Atlas, you know, sometimes the memory gets a little, little foggy, but, um, you know,

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talk about how like ramming speed, the type of music you're playing now, um, brain,

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And Andy into the fold. Yeah. Well, so Ramming Speed was around for like 10 years or so. And kind of towards the end, the band never really broke up. It just kind of like was one of those organic things. It just kind of dissolved on its own. You know, in a way, we're all still friends. Everything's cool. But at a certain point, it became kind of clear, like half the band wanted to do like more technical, more brutal, kind of like more suffocation-y.

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kind of like real fucking all over the place gnarly shit and the other half the band want to like drink as many beers as possible and play like the dumbest music we could manage and like you know there was never like a beef it just kind of like slowly people started doing their own thing and so like three of us started jamming on like just discharge riffs and like motorhead kind of stuff and we're like let's just back to the basics like just punk rock and roll like we really in our minds

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We thought we're starting a punk band. And we were playing for a while before we invited Andy over to come check it out, who just happens to live next door to me. And we've been friends for years and we invited him over and I'd been telling him, like, dude, we're just doing straight up DB punk. And he was like, dude, this is like ripping. Like, it's, you know, it's like we metal heads trying to play punk ends up being metal. Like we thought it was just like real basic, but there's

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Just like solos everywhere and thin lizzy parts and all that shit so we got Andy in the mix and he obviously has his own kind of take on things and was super I don't know motivated to like get in and nail bass stuff and and we you know we've known him as a singer for a super super long time. I don't know. One of my favorite quotes I've ever read I think in my life when it deals with music. I'm going to quote you Jonah here.

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Loud Night started as an outlet for us to write blistering punk songs with shit loads of guitar harmonies that were dumb enough we could play them blind drunk. I don't want to make it sound like we're just like a complete fucking idiots but at the end of the day there's like extreme metal can get like really athletic. You know what I mean? You look at their hands and like they're like wearing basketball shorts and like doing push-ups backstage because it's like really hard to play a lot of extreme music and I just don't want to play.

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I'm just not impressing anyone with my ability when I you know necrophagious rules a lot of that shit super cool but I'm in a place in my life where I just would rather listen to ACDC than like something that's super technical and I think you know me and Callan and Ben and Andy were kind of like on the same page like what if we just take it easy a little bit and write music that's like more fun than it is like complicated.

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But given that quote though, my question is, what's the drunkest you've ever been in a show? And how did that go for you? The answer is it better be at Atlas. I literally fell off the drum throne once, so I was so hammered. But that was like a long time ago. I'm much more professional now. Yeah, you know, you don't need some throne anymore. It's a smart thing. Yeah, if you can just do it from the floor, you don't have anywhere to fall. Drunk enough to forget

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I forget that we play it and be like super excited to about to go on. Dude, you already played. I'm ready now. We already played, dude. And it's like, oh, yeah. It was great, wasn't it? How is the Richmond scene, whether in the pandemic? I mean, you know, being part of the scene and all. Nobody knows. You don't know.

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We haven't talked to anybody, right? Yeah, we, I mean, talk to our friends and stuff, but I mean, like, you know, it's the end of, like, show chatter. There's no small talk at shows anymore. I guess there's some sort of weird outlier scene of a weird, like, quarantine didn't, you know, COVID denier kind of county bars that have new metal shows. Haven't checked those out yet. I'm sure they're probably pretty cool. Not my scene, though.

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And yeah, so we're, I mean, pretty much the scene for me these days is going to the record store occasionally, maybe like once a month just to see what's on the wall and maybe pick up something that I'm interested in that just came out. Well, I mean, obviously there aren't shows or at least not, you know, shows that you want to go to. But I was just speaking in more terms of, you know, in terms of like bands hanging in there and, and, you know, finding ways to, like some people do online streaming.

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live stuff.

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I haven't seen a lot of like live stream stuff myself,

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but I have been paying attention to a lot of releases still coming out.

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I mean,

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people are,

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I think probably everywhere just like really like taking the time to write a lot and do a lot of home recording.

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I know it's like when I tried to buy a microphone towards the beginning of all this,

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like maybe in June and it was back,

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back ordered forever just because everybody's like getting stimulus checks.

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I'm going to get the sweet microphone too. So I'm sure that, you know, we're still going to just see a ton of releases this year that are going to be really awesome and well thought out. I want to pick up on something that you said that's like just strangely ironic about this whole thing is, you know, this started back nearly a year ago, back in March of 2020, February 2020. A lot of things shut down in March and everyone's like, oh, this will be over by Easter and stuff. And here we are a year later. And you're saying, yeah, back when this first started in June.

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It's like when you got the hang of things and you were like

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you didn't have to like worry about

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or as much for me I was like

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I've built a bug out bag

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I've come to terms with like

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where I'm going to escape to if there's

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civil war

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now I can just get back to life as I know it now

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Sure

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Has it affected you guys work wise?

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Yeah, both of us

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We're both like food service

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folks like bartenders

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Oh, fuck. Jonah, are you still at the guar bar? No, they let me go some time ago, unfortunately. It's just like not. I think all the restaurants and bars in town are just completely bare bones right now. I don't know, man. I feel like I see so many empty storefronts and restaurants and stuff here on my side of the country. We are not even close to understanding what that full financial devastation was.

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Anyone's going to see how bad it is for a while, but there's definitely, like, a lot of spots have closed, and a lot of spots like Guar Bar are, like, just barely hanging in there. They have, like, I think, like, one bartender, and then a couple managers, and, like, one or two cooks, and that's it. Are they doing, like, stuff to go, or do you guys have limited seating in your local places? When I was working there towards the beginning of things, they put, like, a bunch of tents outside,

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in the parking lot and like a bunch of picnic tables and that worked for a while um and then at a certain point they like let go some more staff and uh because it was like everyone was making a little bit of money and then at a certain point it was like let's let this staff get their unemployment checks and then this staff make like a living wage rather than everyone making a little bit you know so i haven't worked there in a while but but my understanding is they started doing some amount of

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Indoor Dining, which doesn't seem super smart to me, but I don't own a business.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's because Gwar Bar, ironically, the first time I met Jonah was at Gwar Bar.

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If you remember this, it's this ironic story where I was driving down the Norfolk for my Marine Corps duty.

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And I'm like, you know, I always drive near Richmond or through Richmond or past Richmond.

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I'm like, you know, I'm going to go to the fucking Gwar Bar.

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I need to go in there.

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It just so happened on that one day, I think I was like the only person in there or me and one other person and Jonah was bartending and we got to, I don't know, we got to chit chat and then somehow you mentioned ramming speed. I'm like, wait a minute. I went back out to my car and I got my decimal magazine. I'm like, it just so happens in this magazine that I just got in the mail yesterday, you know, the guys at champion mentioned how they just made a beer for ramming speed. It's like, check this out. And you're like, oh, it's all fucking world, man. Yeah, it is.

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I wouldn't want to paint it though.

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But yeah,

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that might kind of,

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sorry,

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a little bit of a tangent,

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but don't worry.

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We'll just edit that right out.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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No,

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but my point thing is the guar bar,

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it's kind of tiny.

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It's,

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it's not that.

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It's really small,

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isn't it?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's,

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it's super small.

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I mean,

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it,

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it fits like,

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there's like eight or nine tables,

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you know,

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it's fucking,

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it's not,

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not like a space where you can really distance people that much.

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And that's like the fun of it,

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you know,

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Like on a good Saturday night, under normal circumstances, you jam as many idiots as you can in one room, and it's a great fucking time. And that's why that bar did really well for as long as it has. But under these circumstances, it's fucking really hard to, you know, a bar that thrives off the energy of, like, a bunch of people singing along and cheersing and, you know, going nuts, like a metal show, basically. It doesn't do great when you only have a few tables and everyone's kind of scared. You know, it's like, hey, have a great time, but don't

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Don't touch each other and don't breathe. I don't know. Are you guys in the middle of this deep freeze? Did you get some of that down there? Not so much. It wasn't too bad. We had like two days ago we had some freeze but yesterday was nothing really. I just feel bad for the Texans. I mean I think they got like 10 times worse than us plus the infrastructure failure. Yes. Yeah. They are the one state that chooses to have an independent

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and infrastructure.

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So that it can't be regulated.

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And that's it.

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Damned wind farms.

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So you guys getting together and practicing and playing?

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Not yet.

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We've just drank a beer considering.

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Yeah,

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we're considering doing it really soon,

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but I think we're just,

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you know,

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it's still,

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we practice in Jonah's tiny basement.

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He's,

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he's really set up the camera to make it look like it's a much bigger than it is.

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Oh yeah.

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But a motorhead man cave apparently.

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Yeah.

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But it's like I mean in closed space. Yeah, you guys don't you can't we're just trying to be safe about it. You know, it's like you got to what would be worse than getting my best friend sick? You know, that would be a nightmare. Yeah. Yeah. I'm in a band and we haven't practiced once. I don't want to be in that room. They filmed the silence of lambs there. Like, you know, like most most older married men like Jonah and I, we have tons of roommates, too. So we we're we're trying to just keep it

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Keep it cool until we get vaccinated and all that so that we can just not be past. You know, we're playing multiple bands, too. So it's like the whole practice thing just becomes a Petri dish of spreading stuff around. So we've been actively working on stuff remotely, though, which is cool. The connection's really quick between there's only two houses between us. So Ethernet is like really quick. Yeah. All you need is some shit, man. A can with two cans with a string. Yeah, you could just you could just network, you know, run a run a

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Are you working on your next record? Like preliminary stages, yeah. Just basically dumping them out, dumping out the riffs. And we're just going to scrutinize them and rake through them and build kind of like a bonsai rock garden of riff ideas and then connect the dots. Yeah, working on it. Cool. Awesome.

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Before Times, when you apparently recorded the album before the pandemic, where did you record it? We're not allowed to tell you. That's the best answer to that question ever. No, actually, it's funny you brought that up. So there's this band, Enforced, that's from here, that just put a new record out, and they just got a super killer review in Decibel. And I read the review. I was excited. These are my boys, and they recorded with the same dude that we did.

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And the record, the recording of the record got attributed to a different guy in the review. It was recorded by one guy and it was mixed by a more famous guy. So the kind of more well-known dude got credit for recording and mixing. And I hit up our dude and I was like, yo, someone owes you an apology, man. Some wires got crossed. You didn't get credit. The record review is like, or enforced. It's like, man, these riffs are great, but...

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No one could make it sound as good as this guy. Because this recording is incredible. And it makes every punch. And I call my dude. He's like, good. I don't want bands bothering me. I don't want anyone to know who I am. This is a fucking hobby. I don't want to have to deal with this shit full time. So this dude, Bob, who just records out of like a tiny room in the south side of Richmond. Bob's a pretty good studio. Yeah. Like, what do we credit your studio? What's the name? He's like, I don't know. It's like, all right.

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You have like 20 records under your belt like you don't know yet? He's like the best kept secret in like the Richmond like hardcore punk metal freak world where like his studio doesn't have a name. He doesn't have a website. His business card looks like it looks like it's like super pixelated on purpose. And they were like something got messed up with your file. He's like, nope, print it. It sounds like a great story to write. I'm sure he probably doesn't want

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I'm just so stoked that he's like I just want to do my friends like you like you think about how annoying it is to watch a band you don't like imagine a band you don't like playing the same song over and over and over so he's like it's friends only I'm not trying to do like it's like I'm just hyped that we got in with him before so now it's like yo dude let's keep it up we're friends right my dude

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That's awesome. All right. Well, then who did the album art? Another old friend of ours. K-Fam is her name. It's Christina Pham. She's a local tattoo artist and punk enthusiast. I catch her at any house gig any given day of the week. And yeah, an amazing old friend. I've known her for like 13 years, 14 years. And she just did it.

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You know, super quick and was like, yeah, hell yeah, you're interested in album cover, I'll do it for you. And then like two days later, he was like, here you go. And we're like, oh, this is super sick. Like, does the dude have a name on the front? She's like, oh, nah. So it's tentatively have named the skeleton on the front, Lloyd Knight. Lloyd Knight. Nice.

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Me.

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This is the first time I've seen Andy not wearing aviators, so it's kind of weird. It's like he's nude right now.

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I haven't been out in natural light for like a week, so I managed to take him off.

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That is the first thing I asked him. I was like, where's your glasses?

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Well, I feel special now. You can see your eyes. So lovely.

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So how did each of you get into music in the first place? What got you into playing? After you, Jenna. My dad is like a pianist and a composer, and his dad was like a pianist and a songwriter. So there's just always music around my house. My dad had a piano, and my parents were real supportive. I don't know if there's an exact moment or anything,

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But I definitely remember being like 12 or 13 is telling my mom like, I think I want long hair. Yeah, okay. Well, you have to start showering. I was like, I don't know. Hard bargain. She's like, I know how I can work this angle. You know, like, you take showers, you can do whatever the fuck you want with your hair. We'll figure that out. And I don't know, I just like, I think the defining moment for me, I started, I mean, you know, like, as a kid that grew up,

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I was born in the early 80s and so like by the time like Green Day released their first or second record I was in middle school and was like all right this kind of rips I don't know and uh I think when I heard Motorhead was probably when I was like I want to be on a stage like this is this is the band that's like that's music that's like the lifestyle that's like that's what I want to do with my life that's the shit that's a good reason do you remember what Motorhead record you heard first yes but I'll save it for the end okay

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Oh, gotcha. For me, it was... Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more. I'm the youngest of three dudes in my family, and there was a night when I was like seven or eight when my mom was like, go get your older brother for dinner. So I went upstairs, and he was kind of a hothead. At the time, I was like, I don't know, 17, and did a bunch of sports and stuff.

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and he's like lifting weights in his room all the time. So he's always pissed off and last thing he wants is his little brother bothering him. So I'm like peeking around the corner like, hey, Matt, it's time for dinner. And he's like lifting weights and blasting Master of Puppets. And he just like sat up from the weight bench and was like, what the fuck? And I was just like, oh, it's time for dinner. And he's like, shut up. And I was like, all right. And then it was just like, dun, dun, dun, dun. And the whole thing kind of like connected.

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and just switched something in my mind and I was like whoa and that's the first time I like heard metal and uh then yeah I just sought out metal and punk music non-stop after that that is the greatest fucking origin story ever dude yeah I mean it's like psychological levels to it yeah you were like I was I mean it was like somebody once told me if you ever want to tell a girl your lover take her someplace where she's scared and somehow psychologically she'll think she's in love with you too that's kind of what happened

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That's conditioning. I don't think it's necessarily the same thing because my brother wasn't trying to manipulate me into metal, but I see what you're saying and I understand the equivocation. Some primal thing was activated for a very weird reason. On that level, yes. The gears were thrown into motion, thrust into motion.

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Andy, did you start with an instrument or with vocals? Yeah, I started with a bass guitar and I played that for like a year and then put it down from the age of 13 to the age of 33. And then Loud and I was like, hey, we all want to do a band and we need a bass player. And I was like, oh man, that sounds cool. I wish I could keep up with the Ramming Speed guys because they're all really good musicians.

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And then they were like, and the caveat is we want to be able to write stuff that we can play while we're turbo drunk. And I was like, oh man, I might be able to make this work. I don't even know how to play bass, but these guys have to dumb it down that much. Like, certainly I can catch up. And yeah, that's where we're at. I still can't play guitar worth a shit. And yeah, just play bass guitar and sing. Okay. Jonah, when did you pick up drums? And was that where you started? Yeah. Yeah.

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I started in fourth or fifth grade or something in school. Like a lot of kids, I was like, I want to play guitar. Guitar looks so cool. You got your foot up on the thing and you're like wailing. And my parents were like, cool, here's an acoustic guitar. And I was like, this fucking sucks. And I really tried to get excited about it and it completely killed my boner.

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And after like a while, they're like, cool, we're selling your guitar because you never touch it. And then, you know, a year later, whatever, I'm like, never mind. I actually want to play drums. And they're like, we're not falling for this again. So they, they're like, you can take drum lessons. And if you practice it for a year, then we'll talk about like buying drums because drums are like a whole nightmare of expenses, obviously. And so I played on paint cans for a year. And after I did that, they're like, ah, you seem like,

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This is real. And, and, uh, they got me this awesome premier kit and I've been playing ever since. Nice. Yeah. I had the, uh, the whole, you didn't play your first instrument. So we're not getting you a guitar speech. Uh, because in like fifth grade, they signed me up for band and, um, my dad had this old trumpet laying around in a denim sack. Not even, not even like in the nice, you know, band case.

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and a denim sack. And my school band didn't have trumpet. They had cornet, which is a little bit smaller, apparently. So I was the, you know, stupid kid walking into school with a trumpet in a denim sack. And I did that for like a week and I was like, fuck this. And so, you know, and so I quit. And then when I said I wanted a guitar, they were like, nah, you couldn't even do trumpet, you know? And, but then when I, they finally relented, I got it. I got like my uncle's old acoustic guitar, which was, you know,

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It was a while before I actually got what I wanted. I wish you would start a band called Denim Sack. That is good. And the album art will be a scrote, a denim scrote. My story is very similar to all of yours where, you know, from the mid-70s when I was young, like a little kid, I was obsessed with Kiss and then it became like, you know, whatever Def Leppard and it kind of snowed

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I'm like I want to play guitar and then my mom's like okay we'll get you guitar lessons I got guitar lesson I had this acoustic guitar and I would go to Fretz Music in Satterton Pennsylvania and I would sit there and listen like learn how to play Mary Had a Little Lamb and I'm like I want electric guitar I want to be Paul Stanley and this fucking sucks and I'm like I'm out I'm done and then until I got old enough to like when I was 16 I bought my own guitar which I still have it's sitting

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Ray Luan on the right, my Ibanez. Ibanez. Yeah. I've had that guitar since I was about 16. It's too bad you didn't listen to Steve Ray Vaughn, because he has an absolute fucking ripper of Mary Had a Little Lamb. Yeah. Nice. It's tough, that rite of passage, you know, when you see that electric guitar and you're like, fuck, that's going to be me. And then you sit down like I was nylon string acoustic guitar.

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And I was like, all right, I'll sound like Julio Iglesias. This is cool. I'll strum this fucker out. And then it's like hot cross buns. Like, how am I going to make it through this shit? I did. I don't even remember most of it, but it was like, yeah, they should tell you. I wish somebody would have told me up front, like the first year of your life is going to suck. So just get used to it, you know, playing the acoustic. But yeah. I wish I had a picture of it. Like my, you know, this, this whole deal, you know, I had to like barter with my dad, like, all right, if you do all this shit, then I will buy you the bass guitar.

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So when that time came, we went to Guitar Center and I'm like 13 going to Guitar Center. And what I left with was a BC Rich Warlock, like with a coffin case. And it's like 300 bucks at Guitar Center. And yeah, I mean, like it was taller than me. You know, it was like a big ass face. I still have it. Yeah. In a store, though, as a kid, you definitely look at that and go metal.

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comes out of that thing for sure. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. My dad doesn't even listen to music like it all. He'll drive like three hours without even turning on like the radio. Like, he's just like, I like silence. I don't know. Just a thing about music. And, you know, for him to be like, are you sure, son? Is that the one that you want? Yeah. He's like, I don't know. That seems pretty expensive. And then he saw like every other guitar is like more expensive than this shitty. He's like, oh, okay. That's fine. Yeah.

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Yeah, that's a bargain. 300 bucks. My first electric guitar was a Hondo copy of the Eddie Van Halen Kramer with like the... Awesome. But except it was black instead of red. And I slapped like Misfits and Motorhead Stuckers and stuff on it. And that thing would not stay in tune to save your life. Your first guitar never does, Joyce. But my second guitar, which is why I'm telling this story, I saw in the window of the... in Ann Arbor, Michigan, of the...

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The Herb David Guitar Studio, which was where I would go to take my lessons. And it was like in a house. You know, it's very, Ann Arbor is very hippie. And so it was like in this corner house and it was like in the window and it was a cherry red BC rich warlock. And I was like, oh, and I was like, you will be mine. Red goes faster too. Yeah. And that's right. And I still have that.

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I got it eventually.

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Do you guys remember when you had your first beer?

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Because that seems about as important to the band as instruments.

00:34:15.419 --> 00:34:16.000
Good question, Mark.

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I remember my first beer, too.

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Who is that?

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Somebody, Steve Martin, who was that, did that joke?

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I know, I use it every time somebody's drunk.

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My first beer was when I was a bagger and cart guy at Kroger,

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and somebody left a 12-pack of LaBats under their cart while I was doing carts. I was like, taking that home with me. Just saying, you know, because it was a funny story. Yeah, but the question was, when was your first beer, George? Hey, that's Canadian, man. I'm fucking with you. I think LaBats is actually pretty good. I don't think I've ever had it since, actually. I give it an A. Nice. Take off, A. How do you learn college? Jeez.

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So, uh,

00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:08.880
well, let's go with the beer question. So, um,

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do you guys remember like, are you guys in a craft beer now? If so,

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like you have a favorite brewery in Richmond, what was your first beer?

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Uh, I'm, I kinda, I mean, I, I really enjoy beer. I'm not a craft beer guy, but I,

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I will have it from time to time. Um, I don't know. I kinda threw,

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I used to drink beer exclusively and then have really started enjoying a lot more liquor during this pandemic we've been having. But as far as like Richmond breweries, there's so many of them. I like pretty much all of them, but I have a special affinity for like weird beers, like Strange Ways Brewery. It's like a lot of sours and gozas and just off the wall kind of shit. I really like that.

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And yeah, weird beers that aren't stouts. I guess that's the bill for me. What's the liquor of choice during the pandemic? Malort and Malort milkshakes. Zambuca milkshakes. What's that? Yes, if we've had it. I've lived in Chicago for 20 years before I moved to Hawaii last year. So yeah. You upgraded hard, first of all.

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I think I told Andy this, the best Malort description I've ever heard is someone, they did like a contest on Twitter that was like, help us come up with our new slogan as our company. And the winner was someone said, Malort, because your pants aren't going to shit themselves. Always has a bottle at home.

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People always ask, well, what does it taste like? And it's like leather, hairspray, and plastic? It makes you feel great. You feel good from it. No wormwood, I guess. No wormwood. Yeah, not in this country. How about you, Jonah? Did you have a first beer story or a brewery in Richmond? I grew up in Boston, so my first beer was just stealing a Sam Adams from my dad. Nothing super exciting.

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It wasn't good

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because I was a fucking little kid

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But I used to be a beer buyer

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at a bar inside of a movie theater in Boston

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It's like a little bar set up

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And through doing that

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I got real into the craft beer scene

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because you just get to drink a ton of free beer

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if you're a beer buyer

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So that was probably the peak of my beer heyday

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like maybe 10 years

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or 7 years ago

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Something like that

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Since moving here

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I kind of like Andy

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I drink a lot more liquor drinks now and a little bit less beer but

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the craft scene here is crazy. Triple Crossing is super good.

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Vossen does all sorts of crazy stuff.

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I'm not going to wait in line for

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three hours to buy a

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jelly bean fucking whatever.

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Smart man.

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You know what I mean? But when I try some of the beers

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that some of the really sought after breweries around here are doing

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They do a lot of really cool stuff.

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What's the...

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It's really cool.

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What's the...

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I apologize.

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What is the population of Richmond?

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The metro area is just under a million people.

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So it's not really that big of a city.

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But the city proper is maybe like 400,000.

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And then the surrounding area is equal size, if not a little bit bigger.

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Gotcha.

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Okay.

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It always does strike me as having such a thriving metal scene, though, too.

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I mean,

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I mean,

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I mean,

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short answer.

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The short answer here is that it's super cheap to live.

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Um,

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and there's a big art school that kind of got that cold thing.

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Uh,

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VCU.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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VCU has an awesome art program and,

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uh,

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they have for a long time.

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That's,

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that's like Gwar was a art project in the late seventies.

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I knew that.

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I didn't know that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So,

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I mean,

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it's like been,

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it's just been there.

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They've had like a lot of,

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old hardcore punk bands and just bizarre shit happening there. Yeah. A lot of stuff comes out of there is all. Yeah, it is good because it's really known for like for being kind of like a small market kind of town. Like the amount of breweries and metal band like quality breweries and quality metal bands that come out of there is kind of ridiculous. I think it's I think it's the best heavy music scene in the country by a long shot. And it's good. I don't think that's crazy.

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With Ramming Speed, we toured relentlessly, just doing circles around the country over and over again. And, like, Richmond, every time, was, like, just the nicest locals, the best local bands, the venues are cool. Like, and when you're hanging out after the show, it was, like, consistently, people were, like, hey, you want to, like, come to my house? I got, like, this crazy bar in my basement. Or, like, I don't know, everyone was just really welcoming and, like,

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The scene seemed really strong and like Andy's saying it's like so much cheaper than a lot of the other spots on the east coast that are known for their music scenes like this is just the spot and it's like it's so weird coming from Boston where it's like there's a million colleges but it's so expensive yeah there's like a lot of kids move there from like New Hampshire or from like Maine the surrounding states go there for college and then immediately split to go somewhere cheaper yeah so it's like if you're over

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25 and you're a weirdo it's hard to find your lane in that city but a richmond like you go to the supermarket and there's like a fucking mural of odorous orungus you know the the the you know the fruits and vegetables like i'm not even kidding like there's it's just like like every every gas station is the guy wearing a metal shirt pumping gas like it's just like in the it's like the fingers are the roots are deep here for like like it's tour ready too it's like right at 95

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64 both those interstates meet here and i mean you know you can well it's getting more

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expensive now but you could always just work like a like a food job like we do and be able to afford

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your rent and have spare time to be in a band and practice and write and record and then because you have that job you can also just get your ships covered and either get a new job when you come back or get your old job back and so it's just really like a perfect uh perfect storm for being able to

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to facilitate all the nitty gritty things you forget about when you're trying to go full freak mode.

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With apologies for the going off track here, but you were talking about Boston and so many schools there. And one of my favorite lines in Spinal Tap has always been, when the Boston show cancels. Do you guys remember that?

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Oh, yeah. I do.

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But I wouldn't worry about it. It's not really a college town. I mean, it's just so fucking funny, dude.

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So, I mean, do you find the Richmond scene is pretty tight-knit? Are you guys friends with a lot of the other musicians and bands in Richmond? Yeah, I would say it's super tightly knit. I mean, we are, you know, there's always new generations growing and springing up. So, you know, we're no spring chickens. We're in our late 20s at this point. So we're not as young as we used to be.

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But everybody, I think we're all pretty connected. If you need to get a hold of somebody, you're like, hey, that band that played last night, it's one degree of separation. You can figure out who's who pretty easily. It's really rare that I see a new face, but I still do when we have a river that crosses through the city. Every once in a while, I'll go to a grocery store or something that's on the south side of the city.

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And, you know, it's like, whoa, who's that, like, 70-year-old man in a drawn-and-quartered tour T-shirt? Like, that's weird. I thought I saw all 400,000 people here. But, yeah, there's the city never disappoints. There's still nooks and crannies. Awesome. Go ahead, Marcus. Well, I was going to say, while you're talking about all these bands, I'm sure you're itching to get out there and play live.

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And I really dig the record, but your music really feels like it should be experienced live. So I know you probably want to play all the songs from the record, but what's like the one song you really want to jam out and play for people when you can finally get out there? Man, I don't know. The song Holy Hell, I love a lot. It's got an intro that used to drive me nuts, and now I'm like super zoned in on it. But I think I feel really lucky to have a band with

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I just love the I love all the songs they've written I think that there's not a lot of like

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chaff you know it's like I I'm I'm super hyped on it and there's like maybe one song on the record I

00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:35.540
don't love but like pretty much all of them it's like I just want to play the fastest ones and like

00:44:36.160 --> 00:44:43.800
sprinkle in the ones that are almost light speed yeah yeah I would say I would say don't sleep on like a

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Taskmaster. I think that's like the beginning of the B-side. And also there's a pretty sick like cocaine Corvette Judas Priest kind of in the song Cheap Seats. That's my jam. That's a good one too just because it's like a like all it's like you know a lot of the songs have kind of political vibes to them but Cheap Seats is more just like a like man you're an idiot shut up. That's like the message. Stop talking you're a moron. And yeah if you've ever

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I've visited Facebook comment sections whenever the governor goes live or something like that. It's a great time to turn on that song, Cheap Seats. You mean our governor in the KKK outfit? Oh, yeah. I mean, both sides. It's just like there's so many more. It's like only more. You have to fail intelligence tests to get in the comment section of most of these things. That would be fun to see that robot quiz, wouldn't it?

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What's the Facebook algorithm is they're just trying to turn up your blood pressure. Oh, yeah. That's how they never sleep again. Yeah. If for the uninitiated, our governor, Ralph Northam in Virginia has, I guess, in his some high school or college yearbook. No, it's in his medical school yearbook. A couple of years ago. Yeah. He was like, he was in a KKK outfit, like standing next to her, his arm around a guy in blackface.

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And it was like, Jesus Christ, man, come on. Yeah, there's got to be, you know, like at what point are you not sitting there? Oh, this is going to age well. This will be fine. He did not resign. There was all he did not resign. I look, OK, ready to get forced out. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. So I've told the story on this podcast many times about, you know, it reminded me when we were talking about playing live and.

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I've mentioned that one of my favorite shows at Atlas ever was when Midnight played at Atlas. And you guys were one of the support bands on that. And it was just like, that was one of the absolute funnest shows I've ever seen. And I've said this on this podcast many, many times. It was just like, just the entertaining value of that show. I mean, Midnight puts on like this great show, you know, three guys in hoods jumping around like crazy. You guys playing some guy in aviator glasses, jumping around, drinking beer like crazy.

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I mean,

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I mean,

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um,

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anyway,

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I,

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you guys are welcome back to Atlas,

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uh,

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obviously anytime.

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And the good thing,

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we've gone through a couple,

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um,

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tap room managers,

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probably since you've been there last thing,

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your last time you were there was in 2019 for that,

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that midnight show.

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And,

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uh,

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but our,

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I did find out the other day when I was at the brewery that,

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uh,

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the new tap room manager is very excited and very into completely on

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board of doing the,

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uh,

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the metal shows again.

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Because you kind of need the taproom manager involved in it.

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And so if they're not on board, it kind of makes it a lot harder.

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Sure.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah, Midnight Kicks Ass.

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They're a ripping band.

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A lot of fun live.

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We've seen them a million times, and it's always interesting and wild.

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And they've got a crazy fan base, too.

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I mean, diehards, for sure.

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And we love Atlas.

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Atlas is amazing to play.

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It's always such a blast.

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It's like hometown shit too for me, being from up in the Northern Virginia area. So it's a great time to go see a lot of old friends. Yeah. I mean, we actually have most of our fan bases at Gallaudet, which I guess you guys are next door to, right? Is that a joke? Yeah, yeah. We have some friends that are from Gallaudet, but that's a deaf college. Yeah.

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We are right down the street from Gallaudet, which is a college for the deaf. And they're the best customers on nights we have shows because they don't complain at all. Sometimes they'll move away over by the pinball machines or something like that. But the Gallaudet people are like right there. They're awesome folks. My buddies from other bands, they grew up in that area and used to go to Gallaudet parties all the time.

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It's a super cool scene. It's a unique position to be in a school like that. I've actually really enjoyed the Netflix reality show about that. It's really cool. It's nice to go back to the Gallaudet area. It's obviously, I think, Loud Night playing at Atlas. I had to throw that one in there.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, how did you guys come up with the name Loud Night? Who came up with it? There's this Japanese punk band called Confuse that I always mess it up, but they had like a, this song is called like All Crusties Spending Loud Night or All Punks Spending Loud Night, something like that, but it's just, it's like a broken English, like basically just having a fucking wild night. You know, the idea, like they were just

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It's like an Epiphone and run it through like six Metal Zone pedals. You know, and it's like just a dude with a mohawk. Like, dude, that sounds like a really fucking good time. I want to hang out with you dudes. Raw punk is my boss. You know, it's interesting because, you know, we brought up Midnight,

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I said on this podcast many times when I heard your album, I'm a pretty big Midnight fan, but I like this more than Midnight. And I did in our year-end list. We listen to hundreds and hundreds of albums each year. We come up with the top 25, and you guys made my list. But you were higher than Midnight this year. Thank you. Thanks. They're a great band, obviously. There's just something about the... I don't know.

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Talking about the ferocity of the riffs and the familiarity of it to me like reminds me like you know back listening to old school like old school DRI, Disphere. I was like yeah I'm loving this. Thanks man. I mean that being rules and if anything we have two guitar players. As good as they are they got one guitar player. Twice the guitars. I mean I think for

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For like towards the last couple of Ramming Speed records and definitely for this man, guitar harmonies are the name of the fucking game. And I think like most of my favorite songs in like rock and roll have a guitar harmony in them. And you know, it's not by accident. It just sounds awesome every time. It gets you lifted. Yeah, as evidenced by your giant Iron Maiden poster flag hanging back there. I think it was like $700. We have enough $20 beers at a Maiden show and you're like,

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Take my credit card. I don't care. Fucking mortgage the house. Look how big it is. It's so sick. It's like tour t-shirt $75. All right. So whatever. Yeah, I've been paying $20 for beers all night. Why would I believe, you know, why is that now? Yeah. I honestly get sidetracked here. Iron Maiden is the best current band and I will stand

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by that. I don't think there's any current band that can hold a candle to them live. So, you know, you charge whatever you want for your merch. I'm going to the gig. I'm having a great time. They're the fucking band. I disagree because Judas Priest is still current. Yeah. Judas Priest is the best current band. We can talk about this right now. So, we're going to do it for that. Ready? This is like the shortest lightning round we've ever done. Jonah, you have to say one or the other.

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Iron Maiden Book of Souls or Chainsaw Taint Shave? Oh, wow. Book of Souls. I don't know what the other one is, but I'll do 20-minute songs. Fuck it. I'll ride it out. Will does not like that album. I can't stand Book of Souls. Yeah, no, I mean, it's confusing. It's not... So you would take the Taint Shave by a Chainsaw over Book of Souls, right? Book of Souls is not ideal, but I don't think it's like...

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I've heard worse. It's definitely not... It's offensive in that they needed an editor. They're not rapping or anything. There's some good songs on there. There are some good songs on there, but I'm going to get on board with Andy because I've got to tell you, I think other than Brave New World, I think the post-2000 Judas Priest output is better. I think Redeemer of Souls is really fucking good. Firepower is good. Angel of Retribution, not quite as good.

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Especially once Richie got there, he fucking revamped, revitalized that. Northern Virginia. Yeah, but every time I go in. Is that true? Wait, what's the name from Racer? No, I'm confusing. You know he's been in the band for 30 years, right? That's an ongoing gag here, just so you know. We're always like, you know, the new drummer. And John's like, shut the fuck up. Oh, he's an awesome, I love seeing him play.

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He's great. And he's from Virginia. It makes it even better. There's a great story in Rob's book about how when he tried to audition for Priest when they played, I think, in Virginia. And he set his drum set up out in the parking lot. He used to send them tapes, didn't he? Early on. Parking lot as their van pulled in or whatever. And I don't think they even heard him. Do you remember what Glenn Tipton said after he was in the band? He's like, yeah, maybe we shouldn't have dumbed down the drums.

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so much as we did it went with a guy like him

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he's that fucking good

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oh yeah he's fucking great

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that guy's a machine man

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that painkiller article in Decibel recently

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yeah

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so good

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they did a great job of that

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yeah if you read KK Downing's book

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they were talking about before they had the drummer

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they were doing all computer drums

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and when he came in

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they're like okay you gotta play this now

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he's like holy fuck am I gonna play this

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It's just... Yeah! Super cool. Yeah. I forgot what I was going to say now. Thank you. Perfect. You're doing your... That was the shortest one yet. One question. One question. I think that's all he had was one. I think he was just... Oh, lightning round? No, that was just impromptu lightning round. Oh, that's right. I will ask you this. Black album or ape-ass rape? Black album. I don't know.

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These questions don't seem that hard. Black album created a whole generation of dudes that were like, I want to be like, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, you know what I mean? Like, if you think about it, if you think about it, you know, going from injustice for all to the

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Oh, so Bob rocks. The one who worked with you on your album. Is that what you're saying? Stop insulting our guests. Stop insulting our guests. There should be no mention of the black album comparing it to our guests, please. Will has a phobia, like a deep-seated phobia with the black album. We can't. Yeah, he freaks out when he sees Final Taps album thinking it's the black album. I think he really just likes apes and chainsaws, to be honest. I mean, yeah. Apes with chainsaws.

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Oh, John, too much. Too much.

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All right, so I asked you guys earlier to think about this. And in a way, I feel like Andy sort of almost actually answered this already. But what song, album, or artist had a major impact on your life and why?

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Well, mine's like kind of a throwaway right now. I was trying to think about that for just like to give you a song with an artist.

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and an album title. Just something that moved you. The sky opened up and you were like, oh, this is the greatest. Rather than give a primordial one that just really formed the rest of my life. Master of Puppets was the gear-turning one. I would like to flash forward to more recently, during the pandemic, the best song that I've heard that's changed my life is this Canadian, not the new wave British heavyweight

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It's like a

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You guys know about the band Complete? It was kind of like a YouTube sensation. Yeah, yeah. It's like a Texan band that was kind of like a YouTube sensation for being just totally ridiculous. None of them could play their instruments. And it was just kind of a joke. Well, this Hot Spikes by Fist is more like actually competent musicians that just somehow it's somewhere between like Tank and like Devo. Maybe like,

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I don't know ACDC it's just like an anthem arena like jam that's just it's so far-fetched I wouldn't sleep on hot spikes by fist it's just kind of like my new like it gets me going every morning and now I'm kind of making it through the pandemic I was just looking on band camp I don't see it on band camp oh no you're gonna have to dig you might not even find it on Spotify I think this might be a YouTube uh YouTube only sort of thing but yeah I wouldn't sleep on that song but uh

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I can't follow that up.

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When you asked, like, or you mentioned earlier this kind of thing,

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like I said before, for me, Motorhead was just like the band.

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Like, I'd heard, you know, other kind of heavy bands,

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but Motorhead was the one that just, like, clicked, you know what I mean?

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And for some reason, the March or Die record, I bought that CD.

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I don't know why.

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I think you know you just flipping around you just pick one you don't know you know and I bought that CD and I listened to it while walking to high school like every fucking day and it's got like a Nugent cover on it it's like not like a go-to Motorhead record but it's just the one that I had and I would just like listen to that record and there's a song Bad Religion on it just like huge drums like real mid-tempo and I would just imagine being on stage while like walking to high school and like

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There's no way high school can compete with that. Everything would just seem like

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complete bullshit if you're listening to a record like that on your headphones.

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So I don't know. And then obviously I got Ace Spades and whatever.

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But it's kind of cool taking a classic band and just accidentally starting with not one of their bigger records.

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Yeah, but Motorhead is one of those bands where you can really stick your hand anywhere in the time stream, dude.

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And you're going to come up with something that really represents fucking Motorhead.

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They don't compromise their Motorhead through and through. Always. Yeah, always. And Marcher, I think, is a great record. And like you're talking about Juice Priest and Maiden and their kind of later records and stuff. Motorhead really are one. Like, I can't think of any band besides maybe ACDC that has so many records and none of them are terrible. Like, not one. There's Motorhead records that are incredible and there's some that are like pretty good.

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But none of them are just straight up bad. Yeah. Yeah. One of my favorite late arrow ones is Inferno. God, that's so fucking good. And they played those songs live and the same kids were going apeshit to the old stuff. Yep. Go apeshit to the Inferno tracks because they got those crazy big drums and, you know, the riffs are, it's all, it's all there. Fuck yeah, dude. Yeah. Speaking of which, the new ACDC power up is like one of the best ones they put out in a long time and talking like decades.

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Best Post 2000 Will, without question. I would say Best Since Fly on the Wall, frankly, which I didn't. That was about when they started to go the wrong way to me. I fucked a fly on the wall. Yeah, me too. Let me see if this works real quick. Are you looking at your penis? What are you doing? Andy knows. Oh yeah, Hot Spikes, you're going for it, dude. Yeah, check this out. This is like raw. It's on YouTube. Forget about song structure, too.

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We had it, then we lost it, George. Oh, really? He's purposely not playing it loud. Oh, okay. You're not hearing it at all? There you go. You hear part of it that cuts out. Yeah, your microphone keeps correcting. I'm playing it via Bluetooth. There it goes. I can hear the Devo aspect, yeah. It sounds like something off the Vision Quest sound.

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Anyway, I just thought we should check that out. That's something I'm going to look for that.

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That was pretty fun.

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Yeah.

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All right, well, I would say you should wait till the verse, but there's no verse. It's just like the whole hot spikes. Just hot spikes. And then a piece of information about hot spikes. And then back to the hot spikes. I don't know why. Maybe it's me, but I keep thinking Udo should be singing that. I was thinking that too. I was like, that's like an accept song. Prima. Yeah. All right. Well, does anybody else have any questions before we move on?

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I think my last one is what are you wearing and what are you drinking t-shirt and beer check which is this was our earlier joke because it's the second thing on the usually on the script as we say but we never get to it till like two hours later yeah it's still Saturday will so that's a good thing isn't it see we're making we're making progress we actually got a listener call me like what's the deal why can't I get the t-shirt and beer check earlier you guys have an absolutely

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It's a really amazing podcast and it's very long too so I'm gonna have to go get another beer but

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Yes well I was gonna say

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Already done with my first one

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Yeah I'm ready for another so I was gonna say let's take a quick break before we get into that so we can refill

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Double up the beer then

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So like back in you know 60 seconds or so

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You're listening to the Metalheads podcast

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Don't you have any self-respect?

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Alright let's do t-shirt and beer check

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As the name implies, this is where you tell us what shirt you're wearing and what you're drinking. And we're going to start with Andy. I've got the St. Bernardus number 12 and drinking it out of my handy Red Lobster Bell. I don't have a proper bell glass, so I drink out of this weird 80s Red Lobster Bell. And then I'm rocking a

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It's a bootleg, unfortunately, but it's a it's unseen terror t-shirt that says Garfield for president and it's got Garfield on it and then the cover with the hands holding the earth on it. Cool. Jonah. Well, in light of recent events, I broke out this three Floyd's Dark Lord. Nice.

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I was sitting around for a while. It was a wedding present a buddy gave to me. And you broke it up for us. I broke it up. Well, for you, but you know. Yeah, for this occasion, just, you know, I figure to the dude. To the dude. Yeah, not for us, obviously. He's a real one. But yeah, I thought I'd drink this one with you all while we're hanging out talking shit about metal, you know. Perfect. What year is that one? You know, I don't know. I know they kind of date

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by the wax. Yeah. Yeah. Um, Dave Whitty gave me a few of these is like a wedding present. And he gave me a few different years. And I did not write down which wax was which year, but this is the sparkly black year. I mean, it's a, I can't see the label. I don't know. At least like, uh, four or five years old. I'm assuming sparkly black, sparkly black is like my year wax. So whatever the wax is.

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Speaking of Dave Witte, Andy, you could probably be confused for his younger brother. Yeah. Funny you should say that. Yeah. I love Dave. He's great. We were talking about the beer scene in Richmond. He's a big part of it, that's for sure. Yeah. But, yeah, the Dave Witte resemblance thing, that's been going on for a while. Fortunately, I'm lucky to still have some of my top side here under the hat. But, yeah, we both wear the little black hat.

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I get mistaken for him a lot. For the uninitiated Dave Woody is the long time drummer for. I'm the out of shape Dave Woody doppelganger. And then I got this sick wasp bootleg. It's got like, you know, it's like a blind in Texas. Nice. Oh, nice, man. It's got blacky like screaming into an armadillo or something. I'm not ready to go home.

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Yeah, that's like my fucking motto, and I'm stuck at home. It's a nightmare. Yeah. All right. Mark is on. I'm drinking a Brimming Horn Echoes from Deep November. It's a collaboration they did with Fires in the Distance. It's a cherry black currant mead, and it's in a bigger bottle. Yeah. Is that from the most recent mead club?

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No, I asked them to save this for me when they sent the Mead Club stuff because they put this out. It's sold out. So they saved it for me and then sent it to me. Nice. And I'm drinking it in my very own Mead Horn for my comic. Nice. That comes out in four days. Yeah. I'm excited about it. So the comic's called By the Horns. So I had to make Mead Horns out of it. Do you have a little horn holder for that or what?

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What's that? Do you have a horn holder that you stick that in? Yeah, man. It's called his butt. Yeah, okay. Well, I know some horns, they flatten the bottom so you can just set them down. I'm one of those horns. I flatten the bottom. I actually have a denim sack and that's what I put it in. I'm hoping to flatten the curve. No, Markison, you should tell them real quick about the heavy metal theme comic you're coming out with.

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as a comic book writer awesome uh yeah so i have a comic book called by the horns come out from scout comics in four days it'll be in comic shops everywhere and so it's about a warrior named elodie she's hell-bent on killing all the unicorns in the world after they trample her husband and she has a half wolf half deer companion named sajin and they travel the the continent which is all named after metal bands so the continent's called solifus and then every little

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different regions named after a different metal band and fucking unicorns something more dangerous uh out there so yeah i'm really excited about that that rules there's the atlas tavern in that continent yeah we got a nod to atlas in there and um i mean there's so many different i just basically looked at um uh my files uh my mp3s just the names of bands like well what what what bands would be good names for places on this map because we created an entire map

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for it and everything.

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So wait, can I have this total serious question?

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Sidebar.

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Can I get a PDF copy?

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Do you have like a standalone of that map somewhere?

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Yeah, I do.

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Yeah.

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Can I get a PDF for that?

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I'll pay you for it.

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I want to blow it up.

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You don't have to pay me for it.

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Well, no, I'll send it to you.

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Yeah.

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No, I'm excited about it.

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It's just such a tired concept though, isn't it?

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You know, guy gets killed by unicorn girl avenges death.

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Actually, it occurs to me, we should have probably had or should soon have you on here and interview you for this project. But yeah, so I made these horns, and so the character has this symbol, which is hard. I don't know if you can see it. It's like a skull with horns on it. So, you know, they're made from real horns. So we're going to be selling these pretty soon. And Brimminghorn is making a mead for the book. So, and that'll be it. They're going to announce that any day. You've just been going crazy with like,

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Yeah, because you also have the Ashen Horde EP.

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Yeah, Arctic Sleep.

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I just love metal. I just want to do all the things I possibly can that are fun.

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And you started a record label?

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Yeah.

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Are those two that they mentioned bands that you did artwork for recently?

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I'm the writer of the comic, so all the world's all in my head, and then I have an artist that does it.

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But no, those bands, they were on the Metalheads podcast and they just, they read my previous series that I did and then I just started talking to them and they had these releases and they talked about collaborating and I was like, it would be cool to do a seven inch with songs for the comic book. So we ended up doing that. So then I just started a little label called Scroll Fractured Records so I could put them out on vinyl and tape and stuff like that. So that just started. But anyways, I didn't mean to make this

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I'm excited to force you to promote it.

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I am wearing a chemist shirt, a long sleeve, which I do not wear long sleeve very often because I'm in Hawaii, but it's from the Desolation album.

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And I was like, fuck, goddamn, I don't care how hot it is. I'm wearing this long sleeve.

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I got all these shirts I can't wear. I got battle vests I don't wear because it's too warm, but I'm doing it anyways.

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Right on. Matt.

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I've got that same problem in Minnesota. It's just too fucking hot here. Take it all off, Matt. Let's do it. I literally I but my thing has been to wear paint or not to wear pants. But my wife made me wear pants the other day when it was 20 below because she's like, you're sending the wrong message to the kids because they're going to go outside. They're getting a frostbite. Okay, get it together. I'm like, fuck. All right, for the children. But I'm back to shorts because we're above zero. I am also chemisting or single zacking.

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And because y'all were talking about it, I bought myself a four-packed. I've loved all four. And right now I'm drinking a Hopslam. Oh, I just, I bought two six-packs of that the other day and I was almost embarrassed to say how quickly I drank two six-packs of that. Yeah, it flows. John, didn't you have a Le Fin Du Monde on the last cast? Yes, I did. Oh, yes. It was my inspiration. I appreciate that. You could thank Jen because she's

01:14:15.320 --> 01:14:44.880
Wanted to get some. We've been buying it a lot lately. She wanted to get some, so she lubes you with beer first. Get some? No, she got beer. Everybody wants some. Come on, man. I want some, too. I want some, too. What do you think she's going to go for first? Come on. Shit. All right, John. All right, so I'll show you my shirt. Can you guys see it? Anyone recognize that?

01:14:45.300 --> 01:15:14.380
Brimminghorn. Nice one. Brimminghorn throne. Yeah. Dark throne themed Brimminghorn shirt. And she's, I guess I was drinking Brimminghorn also. Their Hill Dwellers Draught. It's their Huntsman collaboration. The band is with, band name is actually Huntsman. I have to admit, I have not listened to the album. So sorry. Does it look anything like this? That's the one from the club. I know that one was in the club. Possibly.

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So, yes,

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and I've already kicked in another beer,

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but at some point we could do it again.

01:15:21.350 --> 01:15:22.800
So, yeah.

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So that, that,

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that Brimminghorn went down too fast.

01:15:27.540 --> 01:15:28.700
So I don't know if,

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hey, Jonah and Andy,

01:15:30.030 --> 01:15:30.480
if you don't know,

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so Brimminghorn's a meatery up in Milton,

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Delaware, right,

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right next to,

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or nearby where Dogfish Head is.

01:15:37.540 --> 01:15:41.060
And they're mad raving heavy metal fans up there.

01:15:41.420 --> 01:15:42.300
And so,

01:15:42.690 --> 01:15:43.000
I mean,

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I think the whole podcast at some point either fell in love with or has always loved mead

01:15:51.020 --> 01:16:02.340
as an alternative to beer or just I shouldn't say an alternative just love me but but that's like saying I like pizza instead of burgers I like both I know I know sorry yeah they're not mutually exclusive

01:16:04.100 --> 01:16:08.360
I used to make my own mead so but I kind of stopped doing that when I came out here

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Yeah, but Brang of Horm is like a very metal-themed meter. So we all do collaborations with metal bands like Incantation, Fires in the Distance, Huntsman. You know, it's crazy. Yep. All right, my turn. I am cross-referencing my love of Star Wars and Iron Maiden with my Galactic Empire Trooper T-shirt that I bust out every now and again. And my hoodie is my, sorry, this one's

01:16:38.400 --> 01:16:50.020
is my bong ripper hail satan worship doom hoodie that i wear a lot less in this neighborhood because there's a lot of religious people here

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i have a i have a very funny story i'm like up on a ladder with my back to the at my front door with my back facing the street fixing a light or something and my neighbor walks up who

01:17:08.360 --> 01:17:37.280
who literally grew up as a missionary walks up and just reads my shirt and just looks at me like what the fuck kind of neighbor are you this is when we first met he knows me by now i find that it's like the best way to you know like people talk about like if you go to prison you need to establish dominance immediately like it's like when you when you move somewhere new you need to just mow the lawn immediately like with your coolest t-shirt

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Make sure all your tattoos are showing if you've got demons and shit all over your arms. And, you know, just generally just establish dominance that way. Like, I'll hook the lawn in a cool satanic t-shirt. Like, Andy and his lady moved onto this street like a year or two before we did. And when we, when me and my lady moved here with a... Like, there goes a new road. Yeah. Yeah, dude, it's, yeah, this block rules. And, like, Callan from Loud Night lives with me also. And, um, Ben from Loud Night

01:18:07.300 --> 01:18:35.820
I used to live with me. We all moved in together. When we first got this spot, we had this super Christian house right next to us. The dad taught at this private Christian school. He would always come home with a stack of Christian books under his arm. We're trying to navigate. I'm from Boston. I'm not really used to this kind of thing. Trying to be nice to him.

01:18:37.300 --> 01:18:42.500
didn't keep you guys up last night or anything i don't know and he'd be like it's fine

01:18:42.700 --> 01:18:49.500
everything's fine like love thy neighbor love thy neighbor happy place happy place we had like a buddy that

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like came visiting and was like we're all day drinking and he there's like this this like waist high

01:18:57.060 --> 01:19:02.139
chain like fence between our backyards and they had like a hundred kids over there and they're all named

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Like Providence and like, you know, whatever. And like our friend was just like leaning over the fence, throwing up onto their side of the yard. Oh my God. And, and, you know, and we're like, dude, we have to live next to these people. Like you can't do that shit, man. We're trying to like get a rapport going. They moved very quickly. These little kids, like you would like go out for like a cigarette or something during practice. And it would just be like one of the 12 kids would just like come out of nowhere, like shining twins.

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I was like my mom says that you like you keep me up at night like I can't sleep because of you but they'd be like all happy and you'd be like uh whatever like shut up I tried to be really nice these people I wasn't even trying to like assert dominance or anything they 100% had the biggest U-Haul I've ever seen pull up one day and I was like jumping up and down like you're fucking kidding me we won I wasn't even trying man and they bailed

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They're gone. They owned their house. They straight up sold their house and moved to Southside to get away from us. Wow. Yeah. I mean, this was like, obviously like the parents like sending. I didn't like properly illustrate that. The parents would send their kid and be like, tell them this, you know, like you keep me up at night. It's like, ah, come on. We know that you're being scripted over here. Yeah. Good riddance. But it's funny today. Real quick story. I had to go. I had to go get a new phone because the charging module

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on my old phone it was four years old wasn't working and so i'm testing out all these phones and the guys explaining to me like oh this one has a really loud speaker that's really cool and this and that and so like you have all these phones they don't have any apps on them so it's like just go to youtube and and so i went to youtube and i went to like i went to the new gojira song and i was playing that um like loud at full volume in this verizon store and the guys kind of look at me like oh okay and then like i pick up the next phone i'm like oh you know i'm gonna do hammer smash face i'm like

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You know, play that at full volume. And then later on, the guy's like, oh, you know, you're really into like that heavy stuff. Like, you know, you probably like Slipknot, right? And I was like, oh. And I literally, like, unabashed, you know, like, displaying my dominance. I'm like, you could have named any band in the world and not much, many of them are going to get that visceral reaction. You really like the Black Album, I bet. Yeah. I was just waiting for them to be like, yeah, man, Andrew Sam, man.

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And then he's like, oh no, how about this one? How about corn, man? And I'm like, oh shit. I can't buy anything from you. And I literally was telling a right to his face like, no. Like, you know, and I started naming all these other bands. The guy's like, oh, yeah. And I'm like, you know what? I'm going on a podcast tonight. I'm going to talk about this story. And I'm like, I'm just kidding. I'm not. I'm like, yeah, I am. This stuff doesn't happen to me that often now because I live amongst many brown people. But I mean, a big brown,

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I got that all the time. It's just like,

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what they thought you like slipknot cross the street, you know,

01:22:12.440 --> 01:22:15.160
think I'm into like this demon music or something, which, you know,

01:22:15.940 --> 01:22:20.040
yeah. Yeah. People at work, if they're like, you know,

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they're like, I like guns and roses. And so I always,

01:22:23.500 --> 01:22:27.040
I always trot out cannibal corpse and impaled Nazarene.

01:22:28.380 --> 01:22:31.760
Cause I'm like going for maximum, like just, okay.

01:22:32.860 --> 01:23:01.660
Yeah. But anyway, um, Jay, Jay, Jay, it's your turn. What are you wearing? Yeah. We know you're not drinking. Yeah. Well, actually I'll, I'll share with you what I am having later. Cause I had one of these recently and I just went out and got another one because I liked it so much. And it's this, uh, bigger, better than Baptist, but listen to the, this, um, I mean, all their stuff is weird when they start doing the variance on this, but it's imperial. It's aged in whiskey.

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and mezcal barrels with coffee, cocoa, the rest of the normal kind of Big Bad Baptist stuff. So that's for tonight. And then I'm just wearing my... You should probably put that in the fridge, by the way. My Slayer shirt. That's from the... Not the Going Away Tour, but the one before that. I just realized I never said what I was drinking. Yeah.

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All right, well, I'm on my third beer, but my first beer was Atlas Ponzi, the flagship IPA. The second beer was Trogg's Nectar. It happened again. I know. No, no, your voice dropped an octave again. Well, maybe Jonah will appreciate this. Do you want to fuck me? You need to, like, unplug your mic and plug it back in again or something. I don't know how that happened. Are you serious?

01:24:03.300 --> 01:24:30.780
Just go with it, dude. It's fine. Or it could be like the saw guy like, I heard you like to drink beer. I love it. I love this. Crap beers in one hour. Let's see how deep he can go, Will. I'm going to stick with this voice for now. It's like Will drinks a certain number of beers and then he transforms. It's so awesome.

01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:59.040
It's how many times he mentions a nugget or a dick, you know? I mean, it just escalates. Are you about a size six? I got my silent neighbor, Atlas silent neighbor style. I'm going to unplug my mic. I know you're drinking something else. I am your father. You're going to be James Earl Jones by the end of the episode at that point.

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I hope he doesn't fix it.

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Oh, this is awesome.

01:25:07.020 --> 01:25:07.560
Is it fixed?

01:25:07.940 --> 01:25:08.440
Yes, it is.

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Because I would have extended the podcast by at least two hours.

01:25:12.750 --> 01:25:14.980
It would take you twice as long to get on the word out.

01:25:16.640 --> 01:25:18.620
Yeah, I just unplugged the USB and plugged it out.

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Should we lost Andy?

01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:20.000
Yeah.

01:25:20.250 --> 01:25:20.800
You there, Andy?

01:25:21.240 --> 01:25:22.080
Can you guys hear me?

01:25:22.200 --> 01:25:23.280
Yeah, your video just went away.

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Oh, there it is.

01:25:24.460 --> 01:25:25.740
Is my audio is up?

01:25:26.080 --> 01:25:26.360
Yep, yep.

01:25:26.580 --> 01:25:27.000
Cool.

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All right.

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So just to one-up Matt, I am double-zacking. I'm wearing my chemist hoodie over my True Brewing t-shirt. So it's known as double-zacking because Zach is the head brewer at True Tech and the drummer of Chemists. It's called the double-zack. Am I missing something? Are we getting like a chemist promo coming up here soon or something? Yeah, I know. That's three chemists. Oh, they did finish recording their album, so. Yeah.

01:25:59.140 --> 01:26:29.000
And as you might have guessed, I started with the Brimminghorn Hill Dwellers Drought as well. This is carbonated. Yeah, it's got a little bit of a... Because usually it has the cork in there. Is it drought or draft? How do you spell it? D-R-A-U-G-H-T. That's draft. Well, excuse me, Mr. Brewer guy. Looks like drought to me. Huh? So the dude from Chemist Zach,

01:26:29.140 --> 01:26:59.060
is the he's also a brewer. Yeah. At true. At true. And if we have like a brewing connection, you guys might like buy all our T-shirts and sweatshirts. Well, because we might have one. I got something brewing. Just change your name to Zach. Yeah. Okay. Andy, have you had true beer before? No, I haven't had that. No. Cause they do a lot of sours and you mentioned that you're like, yeah, is that Chicago? Denver. No,

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Oh, Colorado. Okay. So after that, I moved on to something called Wheezy Scotch Ale. I like Scotch Ale. When I saw this, I picked it up. Did you say Wheezy? Wheezy. Like George? Well, it's mad science brewing, which is literally like a mile from my house.

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and flowers. They're like a nursery, but they also brew beer. Nice. And it's got this like, dude, it's like, you know, it's got plaids and stuff. And I was just reading this. I didn't read it in the store, but Wheezy Scotch Ale. Say you think you can dram a real man's dram, you wimpy Jimmy. This heavy is sure to put locks on your chest. Scotch Ale is overwhelmingly

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with a rich and dominant sweet malt flavor and aroma. A caramel character is often part of the profile. Say I think you're Jimmy enough? We'll see about that. Now, see that's how you know this is in Maryland because they went Canadian at the end. They said about. That's not Scottish. That's Canadian. Wait, was it spelled the way you pronounced it? Yes, I was reading. It's phonetically written on the can that way.

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I was going to say, that's a pretty good Scottish accent. No, actually my Scottish tends to veer off into Irish. So it was good to have a script. Never played Skyrim. All right. So we're ready to move on then. And we'll start with the news.

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Yeah, so Barnaby Struve, one of the absolute founding members of Three Foy's Brewing Company, Munster, Indiana, died this last week from just poor health, basically. But, you know, he's one of those guys who was just an absolute pioneer in the brewing industry, one of the early guys to just have the crossover between

01:29:29.400 --> 01:29:34.260
I will mention that he was a marine like myself. Him and I had many

01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:36.740
conversations, not many, we had a couple conversations about

01:29:37.650 --> 01:29:41.160
you know that basically like you know Marine Corps

01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:43.880
brewing metal all three things we had in common so

01:29:45.260 --> 01:29:47.200
met him on two different occasions

01:29:47.570 --> 01:29:50.140
always had a good time with him. Nicest guy and just

01:29:50.970 --> 01:29:54.060
kind of like you know ironically

01:29:54.350 --> 01:29:57.480
not ironically Looch. The Looch was the one

01:29:57.480 --> 01:30:26.080
who texted me. He's like, hey, did you hear about Barnaby? And then, you know, Looch sent me this really nice message. It was just kind of like, you know, stay healthy, keep in touch with your loved ones because you never know when someone's going to go. And so it was just sort of like this. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I just thought I'd give a shout out to Barnaby. Cheers to Barnaby. Rest in power. Brewer, Metalhead. Yeah. Rest in peace, brother.

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I got to hang out with that dude a couple times and

01:30:32.260 --> 01:30:34.120
just like what you're saying just a really

01:30:34.640 --> 01:30:36.060
really cool dude I mean

01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:37.980
super in love like he

01:30:38.500 --> 01:30:40.560
just invited bands to crash his house

01:30:41.940 --> 01:30:43.020
and had like a whole

01:30:43.340 --> 01:30:45.000
basement pad kind of like

01:30:45.140 --> 01:30:46.940
mine but way more decked with like

01:30:47.740 --> 01:30:49.020
multiple kegerators with

01:30:49.140 --> 01:30:50.740
three Floyd's beer on it and was just like

01:30:51.420 --> 01:30:51.860
total

01:30:54.160 --> 01:30:54.820
totally along

01:30:54.950 --> 01:30:56.900
for the ride like I it's it's rare

01:30:56.900 --> 01:31:26.880
you meet someone that's like has their shit together and invites a bunch of strangers into their house you know what i mean and that guy was just like completely open and down to have a real weird fucking night and drink a ton of beers listen to shitty music and have a great time and he he took care of us whenever we were in the state and um i was really sorry to hear that he isn't with us anymore um but i'm glad you guys are talking about it and shout out to that dude and shout out to all the real ones you know yeah man

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Yeah, I love Three Floyds. It's been my favorite brewery for a long time because I lived in Chicago for so long. And he was so instrumental in that brewery, especially in the early days when metal and beer wasn't even a thing like it is now. And just bringing those two worlds together was just a huge, huge thing. And I went to a lot of those Dark Lord days. It's awesome that you have one of those. And just a cool dude. I met him a couple times too.

01:31:55.700 --> 01:32:24.840
and really liked him. And it's a shame. Too young. Indeed. Yeah, I think he's only maybe a couple months older than me. He's 48. Shit. Yeah. All right, well, moving on then. So as most people are aware, John Schaefer was arrested for taking part in the Capitol riot. And I would say a bit belatedly, most of the band has now quit.

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You know, it's been like a month and change, and they finally got around to quitting after initially showing support for John while also condemning the riot. I think they finally maybe got their priorities straight. I don't know, but I think... I just want to take this opportunity, George, to come out myself against the Vietnam War, by the way. I feel like it's fine. I feel like...

01:32:55.700 --> 01:32:56.620
It's about time.

01:32:58.800 --> 01:33:02.040
No, I, well, quitting was the right thing.

01:33:02.050 --> 01:33:04.100
I mean, but it is what it is.

01:33:04.240 --> 01:33:07.940
They were all watching an eagle and they were waiting to see when it started crying.

01:33:09.620 --> 01:33:11.140
They were like, we're out.

01:33:11.580 --> 01:33:11.900
That's it.

01:33:12.360 --> 01:33:12.720
We're done.

01:33:13.900 --> 01:33:17.360
Stu needs to go back to, uh, into eternity.

01:33:18.100 --> 01:33:18.240
Yeah.

01:33:18.500 --> 01:33:18.560
Yeah.

01:33:18.740 --> 01:33:19.220
That would be cool.

01:33:20.060 --> 01:33:20.420
Yeah.

01:33:20.460 --> 01:33:25.280
Are they any of them going to face indecency charges for like the spawn record or the

01:33:28.120 --> 01:33:38.740
You know what's funny is I don't I've never been an ice earth fan I just kind of felt like they were like the poor American version of trying to be Iron Maiden and I just never really was a fan

01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:46.699
and and so but so these guys are completely off my radar but from what I understand now

01:33:47.280 --> 01:34:16.560
post-mortem is that John Schaefer was kind of like this for a long time. Yeah, always, yeah. So it's sort of like, okay. I mean, he was and he wasn't. He didn't necessarily talk about Trumpy stuff, but he was, he had a store called 1776 where he sold little soldiers and shit. He had another band that he did called Sons of Liberty or something like that. That's right. I forgot about that. And he was really outspoken after 9-11 and used the word Patriot a lot and stuff.

01:34:16.720 --> 01:34:46.660
or whatever. But, you know, I mean, obviously people can't distance themselves from him fast enough. I mean, the guy's a douchebag. That's such a dumb fucking thing. What I would love to know, sort of, actually, is does he have regrets? Or is he like, yeah, I'm going to prison for my beliefs, you know? I don't care that much. But I'd like to think that a bunch of those people were like, oops, you know? I might have got in over my head here and overthought this. Didn't you have, like, a music video where it was like,

01:34:47.920 --> 01:35:16.680
supposed to be the ashes of the twin towers falling on them probably they had a song about that so probably yeah i feel like they've been you know some of those like 90s records where they're just like about cool kind of esoteric monster whatever shit is like yeah i can get behind that something wicked yeah it takes like a weird like turn and suddenly you're singing about the twin towers falling about how america

01:35:16.700 --> 01:35:21.200
rules and it's like i'm out i don't know yeah he got a little radicalized

01:35:21.320 --> 01:35:26.020
somewhere i mean i do know that the album they had called dystopia which i haven't listened to

01:35:26.040 --> 01:35:30.180
any other records in a long time so i don't even know and that's one with the stew on it and that was

01:35:30.260 --> 01:35:36.100
all about how you know he thought society was out of control and all that shit and okay he's got a record

01:35:36.180 --> 01:35:41.780
called uh or that's uh the civil war one and everything he's a douchebag they're gonna do like a

01:35:41.800 --> 01:35:49.260
with people from Crass and Amoebix and do some weird mashup, like super ultimate.

01:35:52.060 --> 01:35:56.360
That's weird because you mentioned Amoebix.

01:35:56.600 --> 01:35:58.940
Isn't like the Tau Cross? Isn't that album finally coming out?

01:35:59.260 --> 01:36:00.820
Yeah, I thought I saw that.

01:36:00.840 --> 01:36:01.620
I was like, huh.

01:36:01.620 --> 01:36:02.160
But it's just him.

01:36:02.580 --> 01:36:03.760
Everyone else isn't on the album.

01:36:03.880 --> 01:36:06.280
What if they did like a big like we are the world?

01:36:08.580 --> 01:36:10.680
It's like just like 60 of them.

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I'm like a who's who of like who ever would have thought that you'd see like this person with that person. But you wouldn't know because they're all wearing white hoods. Oh, nice. Sing. Yeah. All right. Last news item. There's a new band called Go Ahead and Die formed by Max Cavalera. His son Igor,

01:36:41.480 --> 01:37:10.440
which to me is confusing since his brother is Igor. And Zack, double Zackin, triple Zackin now, from Chemist. And they're signed a nuclear blast. I haven't heard anything from this yet, but curious to what that'll sound like. Well, they said it's a mix of elements of death and thrash metal, like early Celtic Frost influences and punk rock. That's right, right. But we know that punk rock is just going to become metal from talking about it. Yeah, exactly.

01:37:11.060 --> 01:37:40.940
We had some recent experts on the show. Yeah. Well, interested to check that out. Should be cool. I mean, they signed immediately to Nuclear Blast, which is really interesting. I mean, obviously, they're not. Yeah, you have Max. He's going to put out something that people are going to buy. By the way, speaking of Zach, how many bands is he in now? Twelve. Three? Maybe thirteen. It just seems like every time I turn around, he's in a new band. So Chemist, what else, John? Blackcurse.

01:37:41.040 --> 01:38:08.920
This one just seems like every time I turn around he's got a new thing coming out. And that's it. But that's us. That's 12. And I you know he but he also I'd like to know how he knows this fucking guy. Did they was that was that was he on one of the decimal tours or something? I don't know. How the fuck does he know him? Or maybe somebody at the label put them together. But I'm just a fan of each other. Nuclear Blast now. Yeah. Oh, that's right. Yeah. It's like a boy band. Nuclear Blast said we need a boy band. Let's let's call it Max.

01:38:11.160 --> 01:38:17.700
Igor the nephew.

01:38:18.360 --> 01:38:22.060
So is this son Igor the same one that was in that band?

01:38:22.300 --> 01:38:23.640
In Sight, wasn't it?

01:38:24.640 --> 01:38:27.440
Yeah, but that's not Igor. I thought the guy had another weird name.

01:38:27.600 --> 01:38:28.080
I don't know.

01:38:29.120 --> 01:38:30.040
No, I think you're right, Will.

01:38:30.580 --> 01:38:32.200
That boy band, NSYNC?

01:38:32.660 --> 01:38:33.500
Yeah, that one.

01:38:35.160 --> 01:38:35.400
Remember?

01:38:35.900 --> 01:38:37.380
And then Igor was in that band.

01:38:38.860 --> 01:38:40.920
That would be funny if there was a guy named Morgan.

01:38:40.980 --> 01:39:10.720
They were friends with the guys in 666 degrees. That actually is not a bad name. Somebody register that quickly. Gene Simmons already did it. Give it up. I'm looking forward to hearing what it sounds like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'll check it out. I mean, I haven't really liked too much that Max has done.

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since Chaos AD.

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I liked

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Cavalier Conspiracy Theory.

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It was better than Soulfly.

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Yeah, there's occasionally

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something from Soulfly. I'm like, okay.

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He seems like a nice guy, by the way,

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if nothing else.

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Yeah, I mean, I still have

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respect for the guy.

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I just haven't cared for a lot of it.

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I just wish he was still in Sepuletor.

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He was so dreadlocks.

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He seems down to earth and cool.

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Actually, I got his dreadlocks cut off a while back. I thought he'd leave you there. That's right, Jay. Good call. Good call, man. How much are those things going for? Like one. I might use one as a belt. I was going to tape it on my forehead. Maybe staple it. It'd be more metal. You know, Jonah, if you would have stopped showering when your mom told you, you could have dreadlocks like that worth a million. Yeah, I fucked up. You could just stop now. He's like, who says I ever did?

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Fuck you, mom. All right, let's move on to new releases. We've only got three of them. First is the new EP from Cult of Luna, The Raging River. Oh, they call it an EP, but it's not an EP. Yeah, how long was that?

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39 minutes.

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39 minutes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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And then we have the new Harakiri for the sky.

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Mayor.

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Mayor.

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It's their fifth album.

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They're an Austrian sort of post black metal band.

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That's like nine albums long.

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Yeah.

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Fuck it's long.

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Speaking of.

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I mean,

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I like that called Luna album,

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you know,

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the shorter length,

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tighter songs.

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I mean, it gives it more of a vital feeling to me. It seems more powerful to me than the last album. And I also really fanboyed out when I heard Mark Lanigan guest on a track because I'm a huge fan of his Screaming Trees, just his side projects, his solo work. I didn't realize he was such a collaborator. I thought he, like, I assumed he was in real estate or something like that since the Screaming Trees broke up, but it's like collaboration, collaboration. Dude, he's got more bands than Zach does. It's insane.

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Actually, Marcus, I love the last new, or the last full-length, whatever you want to call it, from Colton. Actually, I like everything from them. I just think this is a continuation of their last album, so I'm pretty psyched about this quote-unquote EP. Yeah. I'm still really stuck on Mariner. I cannot get off that one. Mariner's awesome. I love it. I love it. The Julie Christmas thing was mind-blowing to me, but still good. I do enjoy the new stuff. I've been a big fan since Salvation, so.

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The Herakuri for The Sky is really good too. It is. Post-metal record. It is a little long. I mean, I find it to be an interesting contrast to The Cult of Luna because, you know, it's a long album. I think there's just more going on in it musically than on The Cult of Luna album. Listening to the whole thing, it does test my attention span a bit, but it does have amazing songwriting on it. It has a good emotional weight to it that I really like as well. So it's going to,

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It's gonna need more spins for me to really get into it. But that's that's like one of those athletic metal bands. But it's athletic for your brain to process. So hard, man. I don't have to work that hard. It's the opposite of loud night. It's like, you know, yeah, I'm not I'm not like a hater or anything, but it's just like a lot of work. There's a lot of work. I broke it up in two days to prep for the show. It's like, fuck four songs, 45 minutes each. I got to slow this down. I got it. I can't run.

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Pat him on the back and be like, you guys are doing great, but you can do that. It's like beer. I mean, do you want to go, like sometimes you want to just drink a couple Budweiser's and you can have several, but sometimes you need to sit down and have one extremely complicated, more modern beer that's, you know, going to be, it's going to test you. You guys are all like beer guys. What's the,

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What's the trigger drums of the beer world? Ooh. Ooh, yeah. I can tell you right now. Is it jelly beans? What is it? Hazy IPAs. Hazy IPAs. Is the Hazy IPAs? I hate them, too. I don't hate them. I'm sick of them. I should put it that way. All right. I'm sick of them. So the trigger drums is like, you know, you can't really do it well enough on your own.

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You have to bring in something artificial to make you sound like you're better. Well, you get to a certain speed and complicated. It's just not going to work with an acoustic instrument if you're trying to go that crazy. Right. Necessarily. So a hazy beer is like basically is they're throwing all these hops and all these adjuncts in there to cover up for their lack of brewing skills. That's what it is. Hazy IPAs is the absolute perfect beer analogy to trigger drums. I don't know anything about trigger drums or drums.

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I just know that most real drummers hate them. So it's like the 98 degrees of beers. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So our last new release is another short one. And by short, I mean really long. Fuck. All their albums are really long, too. Yeah. The Ruins of Beverast. The Thule Grimoires. It's the sixth album from this German Black Doom. I don't know what the fuck band.

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They're all over the place, but they kind of are on the fringes of a lot of stuff. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's like one guy who does like all the recording, but then like, you know, he has a live band. Two of them, I think, though, that are involved. I don't know. I don't know when I was reading, but in the past, I'd never really got into them, partly, I think, because there's such a big doom element to it, and I'm just a little bit more peppy these days. But I did listen to this one, and I was like, all right,

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I need to check out some of the other stuff because it's kind of cool.

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So I don't know. That was my thought.

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Yeah, I don't dislike them at all. I just never have the patience to sit through everything. I think is what it is.

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So I don't give them a fair shake.

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They were at MDF a couple years ago.

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Might have been the last MDF that was.

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I think.

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I need somebody in that organization or needed somebody in that organization.

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I realize it's one of two guys who early on said to them, this is the dumbest fucking name for a band ever.

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But I guess they just decided to go with it. No, Jay. Still a fucking stupid name. Fair enough. Fair enough. I just think that's such a weird name, man. It just doesn't work for me. It's a dumb thing to judge them on, but Beverly Rast. What the fuck is that? I tried listening to this a few times. I'm just, I'm not actually sure about it. I like the music, but I'm going to join Will's vocal police force on this one and say I just really dislike the talk lazy goth vocals on it. If it was the ground vocals,

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I probably would dig this record more. I just don't like the way they do that goth singing on it. So keep the goth singing with goth music. Yeah, sure. Okay. All right, then. Anything else before we move on? No, I mean, there's been a ton of albums, but I'm sure we'll mention them on what we're listening to. Yeah, yeah. Which is where we are headed now. What are we listening to?

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Andy, what have you been listening to lately?

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Oh shit. I fucked this one up. I just, I just wrote like five records that were important to me. Doesn't matter. It can be whatever. This is an open-ended, whatever you want it to be segment. They're, they're important enough that I do listen to them like weekly. There you go. And yeah, these are, I just pick like five that are like shit. That's always in rotation. That's good enough. Top of the list, like usual Shono Mercy by Slayer. Infatigable.

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It's the baseline. It's the foundation of everything that you should be listening to or even spending time thinking about or striving to keep living for. And then, yeah, something a little more chaotic and icy, a little more weathered and weathery is the Battles in the North by Immortal. Nice! That's my favorite Immortal album. Yeah, I mean, Immortal, to me,

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I think can do no wrong. The new without a mortal record is still cool. You know, like more power to them. I don't think this is almost like a airheads type of scenario where you're like, like David Lee Roth or Van Halen. You know, it's like, you know, I don't know. You got to pick Abbott because because he's a maniac. But, you know, unless you're in a mortal and then, you know, you don't want to pick Abbott.

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Anyway, regardless, they span the gamut of immortal vibes. And Battles in the North is unique because it's just relentless and completely ridiculous. And in artwork as well is the music. But yeah, that one is a great self-reflection and isolation type of immortal album, if you ask me. And then Manila Road, Crystal Logic, that one is extremely... I love that record.

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Take Me No Grave, dude. Fuck, that record is so good. Nobody ever mentions them on this show. I love them. A quick shout-out, but it's been on my mind a lot lately. It's one of my favorite records, definitely in my top ten lifetime, top ten records. But we recently got some shirts printed by a fella in Kansas City, or actually Wichita, who played in Manila Road up until Mark passed away.

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And it's straight printing. He's the bass player in Mandela Road. And he had sent me a repress of Crystal Logic on cassette. And I was like, yeah, this is nice. Now I have it on every format. But yeah, it's an awesome, awesome record through and through. And it's just like, again, like an isolation record where you're like, in the dead of winter, if you're ever feeling a little blue, you throw on Crystal Logic. And it's like, kind of helps you philosophically balance like what's going on and that the power is actually inside you the whole time. But watch out.

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There's a couple demons you gotta beat every time you look far inside yourself. There's a couple tribulations you gotta pass through, but ultimately you're gonna end the record stronger than when you began listening to the record. I'm telling you, Rob has better watch his back, man. You're just like, who are you right now? Tank, fill pounds of Hades. Even though you're not out at gigs and able to actually just sneer at people and act really cool and pop your collar and be like a, you know,

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You can't just dust people with your motorcycle when you show up to the gig. You should still at least listen to this record so that you're keeping your mind exercised for that purpose. I think that's important. So yeah, Tank, Goldhounds of Hades, it's a great record. And then Judas Priest, Sad Wings of Destiny, for a couple reasons. Firstly, Judas Priest is the best metal band. And I put this on my list because I know Jonah might argue.

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I've heard of them. Iron Maiden might be his favorite, but yeah, I knew that we'd be doing this together, so I had to include Judas Priest because they do usurp. And sad wings because, you know, there's a love-hate with a lot of people. People will knock on 70s stuff or at least throw it under the bus like there's some sort of movement of 70s hipsters that are out to kill real metal, and they get to just pose.

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to be like into the 70s stuff. But Sad Wings of Destiny is like infatigably. It's just like so it's the most rich you can pack into a record without it becoming like a rich salad. That's just stupid and like necrophagious kind of like masturbatory doesn't make any sense. It's like rides the line of being able to transition efficiently and have all these hot licks in there that just keep you coming back for more.

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Like hot, wet, and dripping with sweat. So Sad Wings of Destiny. That's my favorite Judas Priest. I don't know if you get vinyl, but did you get the Record Store Day re-release that came out? It's like 180 gram on color vinyl. No, I didn't get a repress. That one I've had for a long time. For me, record collecting is a big deal, but I focus on getting a wider catalog rather than

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than pressings. I'll throw an extra 20 on

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the original pressing rather than a repress. Here and there, I'll go for certain

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aspects of it, but I don't typically buy a multiple press.

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Me too.

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Jonah, what are you listening to?

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I did the opposite of Andy. I straight up did

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Like, just lately, what's been on the record player? That's what this is. Not necessarily all-time favorites, you know what I mean? But for the last year or so, I've been listening to April Wine. Wow. East record. Just all the fucking time, man. April. You're the first person since I've been on the podcast, and I've been on a while now, that mentioned April Wine. So, hats off, man.

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I got to do a tour with that band Lucifer, which has Nick Anderson, you know, playing drums. And and he was like playing so much good stuff backstage. I mean, that guy is just the ultimate expert on everything from like OG death metal to like power pop. You know what I mean? And April Wine was one of the bands that he was blasting. I was like, dude, this is like it's like Thin Lizzy. It's like it.

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Lizzy was even like more catchy you know what I mean it's like so just gets stuck in your head so I've been listening to that record a ton with Canadian soul yeah like you know for like early 70s they got those guitar harmonies the maiden harmonies they're doing I don't know great record if people haven't heard that record 100% worth the be like $15 it costs you to get a copy it's not hard to find so good

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Something more modern, Hell Ripper, their new record, or his new record. It's like one Scottish dude, and he does his Venom kind of stuff, and he's sort of rock and roll-y this and that, but the record he did last year feels like just kill them all, but super satanic and faster.

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rules that guy like that I bought that record yeah he's like a younger younger cat and he's just killing it I mean he he's like got three or four records out they're all good none of them sound the same so that I don't know that's I feel like he's like in the world that we're like existing in um I would love to play a show with that dude at some point um I got uh let's see oh syphilitic vaginas I don't know if you guys are up on them at all

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I try to avoid those.

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George a couple times.

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Get right in that shit. That's another one of these like bands. It's like, it's like a Japanese punk metal band, but it's actually just one Swedish dude. And, uh, it's just like fucking rippingly stupid venom worship, Japanese punk.

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But with like that Swedish songwriting mentality. So it's like catchy. There's like Motley Crue parts. And there's just like super noisy punk parts. It's not that they have this. There's an LP that's called the Complete Studio Collection. But it's just a few years worth of material. And like, it's like 30 songs. And it's a wild ride. I super recommend that.

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It's like if you took like there's a big stink about this this uh what is it relapse re pressing gism LP if you took every nuance of the gism LP and then spinal tapily turned it to 11 and then turned it into like that's what I want it that's like my worship project it's so distorted and ridiculous that it does become its own thing and that's what this simplistic pajamas project is

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It's like a combination of like a worship record and a parody record. Like the font is the Spinal Tap font. But it's like for most people, it'd be completely unlistenable. But if you're like a punk metal maniac, you're like, oh my God, there's like a little bit of this band, a little bit of that band. Like you're like combining all these corners of the world and it's like super. All the hot licks. All the hot licks, dude. I'm telling you, man. Hot spikes. So much gasoline dripping with hot.

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That's funny. Speaking of Scandinavians, this band Ursut, which I'm probably pronouncing wrong, it's U-R-S-U-T. They got a record that I've been, their last one I've been jamming all the time for like a year or two or three now, and it's like kind of that epic stadium crust, kind of like tragedy, like the sort of moody, it's like crust punk, but it's recorded super well.

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with like real catchy guitar leads all over the place. That shit, highly recommend. I like to, they're one of those bands, you know, everyone has bands they like tell all their friends about and they wait and see if it catches on. It doesn't. They're like that band for me where I just like keep bothering everyone. Check out Ursa, that shit fucking rules, Sweden. Cool. Let's see, I got this band. It's either anti-mob or anti-mob. I'm not sure.

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But they're like a Greek punk rock, like hardcore punk band. They put out a new record, 2019. And it's just super fast, like straight up hardcore punk. But you can tell they listen to Slayer. There's guitar solos that are like super ripping and guitar leads that make like add a catchiness. But the foundation is just like straight 80s hardcore punk.

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And they're like anarchist dudes. And their artwork is just these beautiful photographs. Like their last record, which is called Two, is like a photo of this prison island right off of Greece. It was like their own mini Australia where they just like put all the prisoners on this one island. And so it obviously became its own crazy ecosystem. So they just took this beautiful photo of that. And that's the album cover. Because one of the band members, his dad, was like exiled to this island.

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So it's like,

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there's like a lot of intense stuff going on.

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Just a good rip and hardcore record.

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But isn't ACDC proof that that's like the best way to do that?

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Yeah.

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Like just make an island prison nation.

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All the weirdos on an island.

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See what happens.

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Yeah.

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And then you get,

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you get ACDC and kangaroos and boomerangs.

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Yeah.

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And then,

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uh,

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the last one I got here is,

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is kind of off a little unrelated to everything else.

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This,

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uh,

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This dude, Forest Swords, which is like a French DJ, and then he has this experimental project called Forest Swords, and it's like electronic music, but he samples organic things, so you get Japanese drumming, and you get flute, and all these organic noises that he turns into these really... It's experimental, but it's songs.

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It's not so off the rails. It's just random noises. It's like

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perfect music if you want to

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smoke weed and just like sit

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in the woods by yourself with your

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headphones on. It's been good for

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me like pandemic style

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or like if I listen to too much fun

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music, I just get depressed. So you got to listen

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to some like weirdo

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isolation music and just

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like stare into the void

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a little bit as a treat. You know, just give

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yourself a little void. So let's start staring

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back. Then you got to look away.

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Then you gotta go back to the new ACDC record.

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But yeah, Forest Look Away.

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Can you spell that band name? I didn't quite...

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It's Forest Swords.

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Forest Swords. Okay, I thought you said Forest Swords.

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It's like instead of like Dungeon Synth, it's like Bamboo Forest Synth.

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Yeah, it's like there's electronic elements, but it's mostly like real life sounds.

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Honestly, it sounds like folk music from a region that doesn't exist, if that makes sense. So what is it like, field recordings then? I think he takes, I think he's, I imagine that he records his own samples and then chops them up. Yeah, that sounds like field recordings. Cool. But there's still a beat to it. It's not so ambient that there's not a song structure. It has

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verse chorus, you know? That's pretty cool, though. Maybe, but it's like... Yeah, I want to check that out. It's just good for getting weird, you know? So that's awesome. That's what I got. All right, cool. It's cool that you're into so many different Japanese bands. I've actually been listening to a lot of more metal Japanese bands, not punk stuff, but there's so much good stuff out there that you don't hear about. Yeah. Hey, Marcus, did you check out any more of that band I sent you? Oh, dude, you sent me that? I just listened to, like, all their

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stuff. It's hard to get, though. Yeah, you gotta buy their CD on Amazon for, like, $50 or something just to get it. It's crazy. Are you up on that heavy metal band Anthem at all? I haven't heard Anthem, no. They were, like, Japanese hair metal dudes that were, like, it sounds like they were trying to be the Japanese Van Halen, and they have just, like, these fucking stadium-worthy rippers, and the guitars come in, and you're, like,

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No one can play like Eddie Van Halen. And then, of course, there's a Japanese dude that can. Obviously. You know what I mean? Was that like 80s? I'll have to check that out. Yeah, 80s. And they're one of those bands where not every record is good. You know what I mean? They got kind of leather pants power medley in the 90s. And things got a little off the rails. But they have a couple records in the 80s that are super ripping. Cool. I'll have to check that out.

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That sounds cool. All right, Mark is on. What are you listening to? What am I listening to? Let's see here. Well, hey, let's start off with a Japanese band. Evil. Possessed by Evil. From Nuclear War Now Productions. It's scary, face disintegrating hammer thrash from Japan. And I fucking love this record a lot. It rips.

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Sanctuary. It's self-released. This is a magnificent, kind of emotionally devastating, blackened post-Doom. It was a surprise find for me. I actually bought the entire catalog. It's one guy that does all the music, and he does a lot of different kind of things, some ambient music, mostly Doom metal, but a lot of other ambient things as well. Never heard of Kulak before a couple weeks ago.

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Sea Sleeper, Nostophobia. This is their debut album on Metal Assault Records. Listening to this album is basically like being caught in a post-metal knife attack with the blades dipped in prog death. So it's a really good record. I love it. Just a lot of different styles that blended well together. Let's see. Eximperitus with like a lot of other

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vowels and consonants that go on the end. Shorten it down to Ex Imperitus. The album's called

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Saratu, I think, from Willow Tip Records. It's a death metal, bone disintegrating death metal. And it's my standard, I think, for death metal this year so far. Thermo Haline Malstrom from Goat Room Records. This is just a stunning,

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a black metal record with a nautical theme. I read a little bit about this band and apparently it's made up of musicians who met on some kind of a Facebook group and they decided to collaborate. So the three of them, they contribute to all parts of the album by basically just passing the tracks around. So they'll all add some guitar, they'll all contribute vocals, they'll each add drums and other elements. And then when the song is done, you don't know who did what.

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or where.

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That's cool.

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And if I had not heard this album, I would think that that would never work at all.

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But this album is evidence that it does.

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So it's a phenomenal avant-garde black metal album.

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Demoniac.

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So it goes from Edge Circle Productions.

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It's a really unique rip fest of progressive thrash.

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There's clarinet on this thing.

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So it's like I don't think I've ever heard clarinet in an album before. Really good. Really, I really enjoy it. I like that thrash is kind of going in different directions lately. I feel like I see that more and more. It's almost smooth jazz for Matt. Almost. Almost Kenny G-like. Mourners, Act One Tragedy. This is self-released. It's a slow, forlorn songs of stark beauty and darkness.

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So if you like Funeral Doom, this is an excellent spin. And Goat Whore Deep Dive. I've been listening to all the Goat Whore albums because Jay had Blood for the Master on his top five American black metal albums last episode, and I had it on my honorable mention. So after that show, I just fell into a hole just spinning all their albums. And I've really been enjoying all of those and just hoping that we're going to get a new album from them soon,

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because it feels like they're due. All right, Matt. I'm still in the thick of Cloud Atlas, so life is good here. The first thing I'll mention, Inhumane Harvest, the first track off of the new Cannibal Corpse album, Violence Unimagined. Super excited to hear new Cannibal Corpse. Super excited to hear the full new album. It comes in a few months, so 2021 can't suck as much as 2020 because of that. Also another band I love, Altarage. They have a track.

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Magno Eventu. They have a new album coming out on the 23rd of April called Succumb. I will mention Cult of Luna, The Raging River. Enjoy that. Also really liked the Mark Lennigan appearance as we talked about. Also a band called Morbid Sphere. I was notified of them via Bandcamp because I follow Black Eyes and the basis for Black Eyes is in Morbid Sphere. And I like the album, but it also kind of sent me on this like six degree

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of Yellow Eyes, Wormhole, which included Rune Loss, Phantom, Fell Voices, Ash, Bore, among others. It's kind of an equal mix of like discovering new bands, but also kind of revisiting some old stuff was a good time. I also came across, the one thing I did this week was just dig a little bit on Bandcamp. I don't get a lot of time to dig. And I thought, you know what, I'm going to dig. And strangely enough, in my digging, the previous Blute Out Snored album came up and,

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You know, as a suggested one was clearly I'm not digging for. And I really liked it when it came out, but I don't even know if it made my list, but I gave it another spin. I was like, fuck, this should have been a lot higher on my list or on my list if it wasn't. Is that the Hallucinogen? Yes. That was awesome. You know, and strangely enough, I think the first time I listened to it, I was like, gosh, this sounds like a bit of a departure. But now listening to it, I'm like, this fucking sounds like Woodhouse Nord. What was I, you know, maybe, who knows what I was thinking about. He sort of does different things. He has like different, I don't know, things.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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I don't know how to put it.

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The kind of inner thread was still Blueda.

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I got it,

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George.

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I know you,

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man.

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Well,

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it's like the memory of a two to albums have the Bathory thing going and the,

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the seven,

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seven,

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seven albums have their own thing going.

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And then,

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you know,

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it's just right.

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Which is where I came in with the seven,

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seven,

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seven trilogy.

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Loved it.

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Um,

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and I,

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I guess I haven't seen it go.

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Like I haven't loved it as much as I love that.

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But then I put this on,

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I was like,

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well,

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fuck,

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I really love this.

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So I need to get my head out of my ass. There's really no one saying. But that also brought me to a band called Forest. F-O-R-H-I-S-T. Yeah. So. Which is really just a Blueda Snored album. Yeah, exactly. It's a little more like a traditional black metal album, which it is, but it's also a Blueda Snored album. Yeah. So good stuff. That's good. Yeah. And then. But it's not out yet, right? No, just two songs. Just two songs. And then since our last episode,

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I realized as that episode was going on, I was like, I don't have a Judas Priest camp. Meaning I don't have a, like, I don't know what my favorite Judas Priest album is. And I'm sorry that Andy stepped away because since the last episode, most of my time has been spent with Judas Priest. I almost, almost done with the KK Downing book, which I'm really enjoying, but I've been doing a deep dive on Priest. I have a number one, like I have a Judas Priest. I have a number one Judas Priest album in my life, but I'm still kind of working on like a top five.

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and what I love and don't love.

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You're going to give us your number one, though? You mentioned it.

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Did I mention it?

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You mentioned you had one.

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You mentioned you have one.

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Yeah, I have one.

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Does anybody have any guesses what my number one is?

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Well, clearly it should be Defenders of the Faith, but.

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I know, George.

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So strangely enough, I knew of Judas Priest before I knew this album, but this was the

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first Judas Priest album I knew of.

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I remember as a kid walking into Target and seeing a big display for this album.

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Demolition?

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Nope. As long as it's not stained glass, you're good. Only two people got that joke. Well, I'm just going on your age. I'm going to guess maybe Painkiller. It took me 18 seconds to realize that Painkiller is my favorite Judas Priest album. That's acceptable. That shit rips. I mean, how good is the song Leather Rebel? Oh my God. Did you guys just see Decibel did the ranking top, ranking all the songs on the album? I disagreed with him. I did too.

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Leather Rubble was way too far down. That is such a good fucking song. I thought that was third. Oh, no, you're right. Between the Hammer and the Anvil was too far down. Yeah, that was down, yeah. But you're right. I was actually happy about where they put Leather Rubble. I think it was actually second. Metal Mountdown was like eight. I was like, really? Wow. Worst Touch of Evil. Four, I think. That's my jam. What was number one, John? I'll give you a guess. The artist. Fang. Can't. Yeah.

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I mean, you just put out two abysmal albums, so what do you want to go with? Let's just do that killer drum riff right into that killer screech. And the guy's from Virginia, and you know he's been in the band for 30 years. Really? Hey, for what it's worth, Matt, that is also Rob Helford's favorite Judas Priest record, so you're a good company. He believes it's their musical high point. He shines on that album, too. He does, yeah.

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I will also say that

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Sad Wings of Destiny and Staying Class

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are on my list.

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You can honestly just start saying them.

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I mean, that's the problem.

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I mean, Screaming for Vengeance needs to be somewhere in the discussion.

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So does fucking British Steel.

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Turbo, dude!

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I beat on Will and George about Defenders of the Faith.

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Think about this.

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How many albums have we named?

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And they're all awesome.

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That's the point.

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They're all great albums.

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But they have such a range.

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All I knew of is really British Steel, Defenders of the Faith, Screaming for Vengeance. I knew some of the popular songs off of Painkiller, but I didn't know that Painkiller was that much of a gem. But then to go all the way back to rock and roll all the way through Firepower, that's a fucking range of sound. And he's back. So when they did Wasted Years, I was like, oh my god. I just can't believe it. Just leveling up.

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I was just talking about the one thing I've done over the last month of over our last episode is I realized I didn't have a Judas Priest camp so I've been biting my tongue as you've been talking about them and I've spent the last month listening to reading KK's book gonna read Rob's book next but just finding

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I have a definitive number one which is painkiller I'm just kind of trying to set

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everything else out and see where those uh where those cards fall so as you build that

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like foundation to don't sleep I feel like the biggest metal celebrity that's

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most valuable to like follow on instagram is rob out oh absolutely he's so good it's like

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well it was the points I don't was it or I don't know if it was the last episode of the prior one I

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I think one of the Thunderdomes was Priest against Maiden. And we liked, I think we all agreed, or we didn't all agree, like, I know that I said I liked the Maiden track better, but if I could hang out with somebody, it would be Rob all day. It would be Rob, yeah. It was Defenders of the Faith versus Power Slave. And I thought about that too, and I thought even though the year was the same, a more worthy, well not more worthy, but another way to have gone would have been Defenders of the Faith versus

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Peace of Mind, because those both came out after Screamin' came out after a number of weeks. But in any case, yeah. But it was still a great one, and they're comparable. I think that was mine, so no, I disagree with you. Hey, Jay, follow it. Hey, Jay, if we follow that logic, hold on, Marcus, if we follow that logic, then that would be Power Slave against Turbo.

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It would. No, you're right. Yeah. Which is ironic because it should be Turbo versus... Somewhere in Time. Book of Souls. No, because that was the year they both just covered... Software in the Cloud is a great song. I really like that song. I just want the record to show... I never said that Maiden's a better... I'm not trying to... I just want the record.

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Both amazing bands We love both of them I prefer Maiden overall It's impossible to really definitively pick a better band I just think if you're going to go see a band tomorrow Maiden's the band Oh live? I agree with you I've seen Priest in the last 5 or 10 years a couple times I've seen Maiden

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a half dozen times. Maiden just gives you everything you want as a metal fan. And Priest, the songs are there, but live, you know, a little this, a little that. They're both great. And honestly, my biggest pet peeve, which has nothing to do with live or songwriting or anything, it's that I think a lot of folks have jumped on the Priest bandwagon semi-recently because the aesthetic is so,

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I don't want to say easy, but it's like motorcycles, chains, leather. It's like such a, if you're going to adopt the aesthetic of a band, you're not going to pick the band that likes books and trash bag pants. Maiden are like, they're not as easy of a band to rep if you just want to look cool. You know what I mean? I think if you just want the

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Like, dude, motorcycles and leather. Chicks love it. Chicks, or whatever, you know what I mean? Chicks in quotes here aren't necessarily like, oh, I want the band that writes like a 13-minute song about a really obscure dogfight. You know, like, oh, they're just like, I feel like Maiden, they got the riffs and they're like the harder band to rep if you're like not worried about like looking cool. But both bands are incredible. I just want to.

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I have to chime in with some comments because for years and I was to Matt and I were having this conversation offline. We could do a whole episode just on this topic. We could, we could. We argue about this every band practice. Yeah. Me and Matt were talking about this and honest to God, my gut punch first fucking gut reaction to the question Maiden or Priest for 30 years was Maiden. But I think it's changed to Priest now and I think they have a more varied catalog first off. And honestly, they,

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I made a couple of mistakes, you know, but, um, but, um, but, but bear, but bear, bear with me there. But you know, one of the, what, one of the funny big differences between those two bands is and their trajectories is the quality of their fucking management. And I could not be more serious. If, if priest had Rod Smallwood, dude, forget it. They would be still be playing arenas like made this, even though they do play arena sometimes, but, and that's, that's just a small little thing, but I just, um, it's a huge game.

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That's awesome. I haven't heard somebody say that before and that's great. That totally connects the dots for me. Hey, Rod Smallwood thing. Hey, Jonah, I'll just say that as someone who is old enough to remember being at the Cow Palace in Daly City, California for the Scream for Vengeance tour in 1982, the leather and the motorcycles was pretty popular back then too. Dude, I'm not going to be a hater. It's just like, oh, yeah, no, yeah, yeah. It's like, it's easy for people to jump on.

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I heard some of our peers in our community talk shit on Maiden and I'm like come on man just because like you wear leather and motorcycles are cool doesn't mean that Maiden sucks like Maiden. No. I agree. That's like hey flying around in a Southworth camel is cool too. Well and they I mean they are just a better live band. Yeah Maiden is the greatest live band ever period. You know I hear you guys say this. Delay or fucking whatever there's a million more backwards.

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You know, I don't know, more crazy. It's just the theatrics, everything. And they're super old and they're still like throwing guitars like 80 feet in the head. And sionic gears. Let's not go crazy. Not everyone's throwing their guitar around and flipping their damn chord and hitting. Dude, Halford, Halford, easily one of the best singers in heavy metal history. But he's not like running around working the crowd. Actually, it's the opposite. Like he, he, he literally looks like last time I saw him on.

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He's wearing 200 pounds of leather and spikes. That's what it is. He's wearing so much leather. And he's still up there doing backflips and shooting flamethrowers. So let me, I'm going to really piss a couple people off. I think he's got more of his voice left than Bruce does. Yes. No, I think he does. Absolutely. I think he does. Bruce's voice is garbage now. I'm going to go on the record saying this. Disagree. The Book of Souls tour, when we went there, I got super drunk. We recorded it. I hated it.

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because I could not stand that album. The album was garbage to me. And then the next time we saw them all together, we're all together. And we were drunk again. But audio, like the audio, like they had so many state, they had so many problems with the audio and the stage and the. Just because he didn't sing for most of where Eagles dare. I waited 40 years to see that song. Jonah and I went and saw

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that same show. We were trashed too, and I'm sure it was the exact same show. Did you record it? Because what I'm wondering is, I remember he said something weird about the Klansmen, and I was like, what exactly did he say? Because he's like, it means something much different. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because he didn't want you to think it was like KKK. We're like, what did he say? Klansmen is spelled with a C, not a K. I think it's on, oh, there you go. That's what he said, yeah. We were all on Mushrooms like, fuck that dude.

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Or maybe I love that dude. I don't know.

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So if nobody knows, which it's funny now, five of us are in this, that was a fucked up show. They had so many problems the whole night. There was all kinds of problems pulling down the, they had these big, huge, what? I don't know what you'd call them behind the screen. They would pull them down. It'd be different images of Eddie. And they had problems pulling those down. And Bruce decided on the second song, not to show up. Yeah. And where he goes there. And there was audio issues and he was taking a shit.

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I had a much different experience. It was probably the best time I ever saw them. You know, it's bad when the band actually, believe it or not, they were laughing during what he's done when he comes out. They're like, where the fuck have you been? Kind of thing. I was very surprised by that. I'm almost ashamed. I've only seen Iron Maiden probably four times, but 50% of the time it was garbage. And that's my issue. I've only seen, I've only seen Judas Priest probably three times. And the first time, which is the painkiller,

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was amazing.

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I think that show is on YouTube, Will.

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You should look.

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I'll look at that show from that tour in Philadelphia.

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I think Judas Priest's output in the last couple of years is way far better than Iron Maiden.

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But I did like Final Frontier.

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I like that album a lot.

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What was that?

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What was the one?

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Matter of Life and Death I thought was Garbage.

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And Book of Souls was garbage. Nah, I liked it. Well, you like everything. You like a black album, so you have a fucking taste of music. I'm easy. We were talking about this, but more recently, I thought Firepower and Redeemer of Souls are both fucking really good, dude. Those are really fucking good records. If you go up to my record player right now, the record that's on it right now is Firepower. Yeah. I like that a lot. I mean, they're both amazing bands. No, they are.

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Yeah, were you done, Matt? The last thing I'll say is I don't completely hear Turbo. But yeah, I'm done. I love Turbo. Okay, I don't love Turbo, but I like Turbo. Damn it. Not all of them, but at least half the album I liked. It's not my favorite, but I don't completely hate it. We don't need no parental guidance here, dude. Come on. All right, just stop. We don't need no. No, no, no. It's none of my top five. No, no, no.

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We don't need no. I will say. I'm feeling out in the cold here, but I don't know. I like that. I heard an interview with Rob Halford recently because I'm a big wrestling fan and Chris Jericho has a podcast and he interviewed him and it was actually a really good revealing interview. You know, it talked a lot about the book, but his time and Judas Priest and, you know, his life. And so if you get a chance, you should listen to that. I saw, I heard him. It's funny. I heard him.

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One Straight Guy and One Gay Guy. And they interview people, and they've done this for a while. That's just the name of the podcast. So they really got to dig with him a little bit because they're like, first of all, do you know which one of us is the gay guy? And Rob was great, man. He was so fucking funny in it. And so self-effacing, by the way. That fucking guy is so humble. Yeah. Good book. Actually, I'm going to use this moment now to just say, because I want to show it off and I showed it to you guys.

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This thing, I need to wear it. I think it's 10 pounds, but I don't know if you're aware of this book. Yeah, he took his pants off. All right. It's a super book. Yeah. I mean, it's the 50 years of heavy metal and it's just pictures. It's just year after year after year of priest. Well, of course it's Jay. You're reading it. So, you know, ah, yeah, there's a couple words in there and I don't understand them. Well, I admit it. The words on the cover, but this has been my companion this week. God, I'm going to weigh this. It's got to weigh 10 pounds.

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That's awesome.

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All right.

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Moving on to John then.

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My turn.

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And this is why our episodes last so long.

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Yeah.

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That was a worthy reason.

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It was.

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I totally agree.

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Hey, we're doing pretty good though.

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I mean, we're almost Saturday.

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We're almost up to the top five, which is the last thing.

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And we're still under three hours.

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I know.

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Yeah.

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I won't take too long.

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A band that's called Loud Night has to be able to hang.

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Exactly.

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Three hours of the morning.

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Loud Night.

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Love you, Long Night.

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All right, John.

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All right.

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So my first album on my, what am I listening to?

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Cult of Luna, The Raging River.

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I'm sure as anyone knows who's listening, I'm a huge Cult of Luna fan.

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I absolutely love this EP, full-length album.

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What's that?

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Mike Hill's on the phone. He wanted to clarify what the length of an EP is. Yeah, it's kind of funny because I'm reading reviews of the album and everyone's saying the same thing. Yeah, EP in quotes, which is kind of funny. It's longer than Rain and Blood. It's longer than half of the albums that I bought this year that are considered albums. I just love the fact that they are able to create such a massive sound. I think Marcasson touched on this when he was

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Pairing it to Herakiri and Sky. It's not gymnastics like we've been talking about musically, but they create such a massive sound with their riffs that you kind of wait for the buildup to get there. And for me, they've just been killing it for probably their whole career. They are one of the giants of the quote-unquote atmospheric sludge scene. They're up there. They're not neurosis because that's the gold standard, you know, but they're

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I think they're as worthy as ISIS because they've been around longer than ISIS. Are you disagreeing with me, John, on that? Yeah, I think ISIS is like so... Oh, there's baby neurosis, and I feel like it's hard to get... I just think Cult of Luna is worthy of praise like those bands because they've been around so long. And for what it's worth, John and I are both huge ISIS fans too. I love ISIS. I love them.

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I don't think they have the guitar riffs. I think the tone you can buy, riffs are hard, man. Well, they're a hard band to sell though because you have to put work in to enjoy them. They're not an easy band to listen to. Isis is easy to listen to, I think, because they write, I hate to use the word accessible, but you're right. You put them on, you're like, whoa, I could grasp this really fast. You got to work with Colt de Luna to get their stuff. So I'll give you that, yeah. But I'm a huge fan, so I really,

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I expect that this will be on my list even though it's a EP. We mentioned Herakiri for the Sky. Yeah, I like them. I have a lot of their stuff. If they just could roll their albums into about 50 minutes, I could really get behind their stuff. But this is like 80 some minutes. It's a lot of work. So I like like half of it a lot. And the other half, I'm like, so I do like that one side. What is it? Us Against December Skies.

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I like a lot of people are behind this that I'm friends with on Bandcamp and I see a lot of reviews like it. It's just a lot of work for me. I'm really in that 35 to 45 minute album span right now. I don't know why. And Colton Luna usually does longer albums. I know. They're another band. I'm like, yeah. Well, the last album, Mark, was like 80 minutes.

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Come on, guys. So my next album is a solo album from Yari Lindholm. I think I hope I said that right. It's called Trajectories. It's a debut album. If you don't know the name, that's OK. But you might know the bands he's been involved with, X Genesis and Enshine. He's the driving force of those two bands. So he released a solo album. It's instrumental atmospheric metal, I guess you can call it. It's a really nice release. It's under 40%.

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So it's right in my wheelhouse, you know, for attention span. Nice. It's a nice kind of listen, something different. I don't know how we'll fare on my year end. You said that's instrumental, right, John? Yeah. Oh, I think I listened to a couple songs. It was really good, I thought. Yeah, it's, you know, if you like instrumental music, I think it's a nice change of pace from what he normally does. I know a bunch of us like ex-Genesis, so it's kind of cool.

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Next album is probably would have been my January album of the month if I had heard it back then. It caught my attention because the album cover is very Queen-like or very King Crimson-like or even Van Halen OU 812. And it's because it's all four band members, just their heads on the cover. You have to see it. And you know what I would mean if you saw it. But the band name is Mephitis.

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I believe is how you pronounce it and the album is called

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Offscarings

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or whatever it's a debut album

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from band from Jay's neck of the woods

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or from Oakland they're kind of like a

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proggy death avant-garde black metal

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or as they like to say dark metal

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so that's easy for me to remember

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it's an interesting album

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I didn't hear it until recently

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and I like it a lot

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probably would have grabbed my spot because

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I thought Jindry was a little thin

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that's just the way things go

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But in my next two albums, I probably would not have heard of, but I discovered this website called Wonderbox Metal, and they just crank out reviews, kind of like Angry Metal Guy without all the angry and let's create a ton of crazy comments with our reviews. Angry Metal Guy is great. Even if you get a shitty review, you get reviewed, so a ton of people see it. And half the people will say, hey, they give him a shitty review. I got to listen to this. It might be actually good.

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Yeah, I don't trust them. Yeah, I know. I don't give a shit. Everybody knows you got to look at what the album cover looks like. That's what matters. Yeah, I don't trust anybody except you guys. Smart. Smart. Very smart. We know what we're talking about at the same time. But these two albums I just found recently, and they're both kind of tech deathy, and I'm not a big tech death guy, but I like both these albums. The first one is the Lilac Continuum Ephemeral, and the second one is the

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Scalar Process, Coagulative Matter. Both reviews kind of mentioned bands like the Contortionist and Cynic in them, and I was kind of intrigued by that because I like both those bands, and so I checked them out, and they're kind of solid, kind of proggy, techie death stuff with a lot of atmospherics. So those are all reasons. You say that, like you're almost apologizing for it. Not at all, no. It's hard to describe because, I mean, when I think, because when you say tech death, right away, you're just,

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and we mentioned this earlier gymnastic music and it's not like that necessarily it's partly like that

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there's a lot of atmospheric so i don't want to paint it as tech death per se but it they're kind of

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based that's the root base of it but they get very uh proggy and very atmospheric so if you kind of

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like that stuff you might dig it a little more yeah i always picture that as like just like uh

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dudes that are like really smart like in master's science programs that are like as a byproduct

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They're like, I only have to study like 80 hours a week. So the other 40 hours, I just make this like incredibly complicated death metal music. And that's like its own genre right there. Yeah, it's just not the constant blast beat changing notes and five gazillion whatever in a measure type music. It's more spacey and more spread out. That's why I kind of dug this more. So while I may like Obscura, at some point I'm like, okay, that needs to go away.

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for another year and I'll dig it out again after a year and listen to it then because it's just too much to listen to. Yeah, that's like musician technical death metal, whereas this is like scientist technical death metal. Yeah, there's some peer review that's involved, so it takes some time to get to where they're going, you know. Exploratory. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. I like your description better than mine. That's it. All recent releases and as I've always said a million times on here, check out the Facebook what you're listening to because we're going to be

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We all put just tons of albums on there. Way more than what we mentioned here. So minus George. He always mentions a lot. So I don't mention a lot on here anymore. And I don't and I don't I don't post on the thing anymore just because I forgot to post on there. We do it every Friday. So we do it so much. Stop by. Check out what everyone's listening to. We have some listeners that are we have a number of listeners that are always posting a lot of stuff, too. Yeah, I just make smart ass comments.

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You do? Yeah. Yeah. I participate a little. You know, it's good. It's fun. I think we get, I learn a lot more from our listeners than I do from what I find myself. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. It's a nice. It's just so much metal out there. I mean, we listen to so much and then there's stuff we're still going to miss. It's unbelievable how much stuff comes out now. Yeah. It's a great time. It's not for trying though. It's the stuff we just learned tonight. Yeah.

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I know it's tough for musicians right now, but it's a great time if you're a fan because there's so many ways for them to get for you guys to get your music out, you know, so and that's the thing many ways for us to steal it if I was no, no, I'm joking. We buy everything unless it unless it's Metallica fuck Lars, man. I'll steal everything. The whole reason I still have a Napster is just go man. We are we are such music buyers that if we get a demo we like we

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I'll buy the record. We don't. Yeah. And we get a lot of demos. Just. Yeah. Promos. Record companies. Just see how neurotic I am about it. If we get a promo and I don't like it that much, I delete it off my hard drive. Because I'm like, eh, I feel kind of guilty keeping this because I don't really like these guys. Well, they're MP3s. I don't keep them anyway. I'm a flat guy. Well, yeah. I mean, that's the main thing. But I just feel guilty keeping someone's album if I didn't pay for it. Sure. Well, the thing is, too, John, I've been going through all

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I have to pair this down because I have way too many albums stored. I'm never going to listen to all this stuff. I have a 14 terabyte external hard drive. 10 terabyte drive. I put it on theirs. It's good to clean house everyone. Will, what are you listening to? Matt was trying to say something earlier. Hold on. I was just going to say, if I was rich, that money would be paying somebody to find me what I need to be listening to.

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It can be fucking exhausting

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I mean

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Who is this guy rich?

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Spotify

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And it's $14 a month

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Take care of everything

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Right

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Somebody make me a playlist

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That's 4,000 songs long

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I can do that

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In an hour dude

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George what are you doing

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What are you doing this Thursday night?

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I'll pay you

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Alright

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Set that up for me

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As long as it's

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That I'll send you three prog songs

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That'll give you about 14 hours

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That's perfect

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I'm actually looking forward to it

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Alright

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Will

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Well, I will be quick. Or you will be dead. Thank you, Jared. Fear of the talk. I don't think I have to mention to the rest of you scoundrelitos that Cannibal Corpse released a new song, Inhumane Harvest, off their new album coming out in April, Violence Unimagined. Boner alert. Like in that, Dope Lord came out with a little short little EP.

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Dagger. I love these guys. Kind of like a cult. Kind of Doom with a little bit of harsh vocals thrown in here and there. Out of Richmond, motherfucking Virginia, you got Lair. I don't know if you know the guys in Lair. They came out with a little EP, two song EP, which is like 30 minutes of music or something like that. That's an LP.

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The Rain and Blood Test. It's definitely an LP. Yeah. The name of the two-song LP is At Our End. It's just filthy, disgusting, crusty, doom metal. I like it a lot. I went down into a dis-fear sort of rabbit hole. And then, obviously, listened to the Loud Night album.

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Mind Numbing Pleasure a lot. It was number 18 on my year-end list out of 25. That's the top 25 albums out of probably the 200 that we listened to. At least. Yeah. What we always say on our year-end list is like, even if you're number 25, you make it on the year-end list, that's pretty fucking outstanding.

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For Valentine's Day, I bought my 10-year-old daughter Led Zeppelin IV, Zoso, whatever you want to call this album. It has no name to it. I kind of went down a Led Zeppelin rabbit hole as of late, and I was trying to teach my daughter. She plays guitar. You can see her guitar is the one in the center, the short one right there. She's been playing guitar for a couple years off and on.

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So every now and again, I'm just trying to inform her, like, there's this guy named Jimmy Page. You know, and this guy puts out some riffs and some notes. It's like even professional musicians have hard times playing, like the intro to Black Dog. I don't know if that's by, is that rock and roll? I forget. Anyway. That was heartbreaker, but that's okay. Whatever. But so I went down a Led Zeppelin Rebel, so I bought her that on vinyl.

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for Valentine's Day.

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And then I would say my album of the episode, there's this band.

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Hey, we're not doing that.

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We're saving it.

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Saving it.

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To the end.

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Yeah, because we're going to wait until after that.

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All right, go ahead, Jay.

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Wait, Will, real quick.

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I think Jay will agree.

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After you get your daughter indoctrinated in Led Zeppelin, then give her physical graffiti.

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Mm-hmm.

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Seriously.

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Yeah, we have on vinyl.

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We have, well, I have them all on MP3s or something.

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We have Led Zeppelin 2

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and from my father got her

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Led Zeppelin 2 and I got her

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Led Zeppelin 4

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Once she gets to feel

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then take her deep

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into physical graffiti

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If you can grasp that

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then you're a fan

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I'll be pretty brief too

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I

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not unlike you guys

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have been checking out

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some new streaming tracks

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the Cannibal Corpse

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Will I have been listening to

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the Gojera I checked out

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Liked both the Cult of Lunar Record I liked too, a bunch of other stuff here and there, but not unlike Matt, and I mentioned this last time, I've been stuck in a Judas Priest rabbit hole for a while, and I can't get out of it to save my life, and then when the book showed up, it fucked me that much more, because I'm listening to the records while I'm looking at the book, and blah, blah, blah. Signed book. A signed book. Mine is signed upside down, by the way, which strikes me as more metal. It's not upside down, it's inverted.

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Inverted. Thank you, George. And then I'm kind of a stone alone on this one, and I realize that. I can appreciate that. Not everybody's a fan. But I've really spent a lot of time with the, what's called the revivalist Michael Schenker releases. And if you're familiar with these at all, the Michael Schenker Fest stuff, they all have like a religious stations of the cross kind of cover where Michael is basically Jesus. So he thinks a lot of himself.

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I never knew that about him. Come on. But that stated, I'm going to say this only to my own satisfaction, but the cool thing about the Michael Schenker Fest albums was it was all the vocalists he'd worked with up to that point, which was Rob Nocali, Graham Bonnet, Gary Barden, Doogie Wright. And this, for the first time, he just released his new record. It's called Immortal. It doesn't really have the Christ thing, though it is called Immortal. But it's just more of him on a mountain top looking cool and everything.

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He's such a guitar playing guy. And the lead singer for the first time in his career is Jolin Turner, which is a really cool because this is almost a kind of straight between your eyes type record, John. Oh, nice. And but with Michael Shanker exploding this fucking guitar all over it. He's such a good guitar player. So again, I know I'm I kind of stand alone. You should call the Metalheads Butler and you guys should get together and have a Shanker fest because he loves Shanker. I know. And I do. I know that. I know that about him. And I love him so much.

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Get Stuck in a Michael Shanker. This record, I cannot tell you enough, is so fucking good. Shanker, jerk. So I've been stuck in a Michael Shanker. That sounds like a question. Shanker or jerk? So this, and I just got this in the mail, was just released, but I can't say enough how this is, we all have our own little private happinesses, and this is one of mine, so this has been a real treat in my life for the last couple of weeks.

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for me. That and everything else, I put in something different every day, of course, like the rest of you guys. But those are the dominant things right now. And I've probably watched the Judas Priest Screaming for Vengeance DVD five times in the last two weeks. I don't know what reason. It's just so representative. To me, it's the equivalent of the Beast over Hammersmith, John. Is that the Memphis show? Yes, sir, it is. And it's just black, minimal stage set, leather guitars. Ian Hill literally

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does not move from his spot the whole show. He's just like, that's the move. John. And consequently is not even in the video that much. And I'll tell you this, dude, because he doesn't move. No. And so I, I'm kind of setting you up for this, but guess who there are the few, the fewest pictures of in that book. I'm telling you, dude, it's a 600 page book.

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He's always been pretty biased towards beards until

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2000.

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Yeah, yeah.

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A few millennia.

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For those of you listening, John just did an enchanting, rhythmic head bob.

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It's all he did.

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I mean, when I saw that tour, I was up close to the stage.

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Like, Jay knows where I'm talking about, the Cow Pals.

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And I was on his side, and he literally just...

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Stands there.

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Just stands there.

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And, like, Glenn Tipton just kept walking around, because he was right in front of him.

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That's exactly what I'm talking about.

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It's part of holding it down. That's like what a bass player needs to be doing is hold it. He's anchoring. It's like a hill that you can die on. Which is funny though, because KK Downey and Glenn Tipton and Rob were all over the place. You know, and obviously Dave Holland just didn't do shit because he's not a very good drummer. Allegedly he did some other stuff though. I'm keeping it to the drums, to the percussion. But the other three were great.

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I mean, they did all the, they kind of did their kind of choreograph kind of stuff they do, which is fun when you're 15. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, Steve Harris is, you're doing the Steve Harris machine gun bass, which is, I'm not going to lie to you. Even in my fifties, I'm like, that's fucking badass still. Do it. He could kick all our asses with his two fingers. Like, I'm sure some of you guys read it, but in Lemmy's book, he was telling,

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Telling the story that I did was such a British comment he makes in the story and he was talking about how he basically he hit his head on the bomber riser that they had for the bomber light show they had in that time but anyway and this is the way he tells the story he hit his head on it he says I was standing with one foot on the monitor shooting the crowd with my base like a machine gun like you do.

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And then anyway, and then he biffed his fucking head, but I always liked, like you do. That's just brilliant. As a matter of fact. George, more than two. You know, usually after our year-end list, January is sort of the doldrums of the year because I at least, and I know others are as well, I'm really burned out for the push at the end of the year to try and listen to everything to get these lists together.

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And so in January, I usually go afield. I'm like listening to old stuff. I'm listening to rock music. You know, I'm just kind of cleansing the palate before getting into the before people start really releasing stuff. And I didn't say that. I think we all do that. I know. I did. And I didn't really get to do that this year because our January episode was the Daniel Lake USBM black

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book episode. And so I went way down a black metal rabbit hole in January, which just furthered the burnout. So come February, I finally just sort of dropped off the map and did not listen to a whole hell of a lot. Jonah and Andy, just a warning. This is when he starts going into talking about how much he loves Madonna, Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga. So just hold on. Buckle up. Yeah. Bill Collins. Now it's a short list.

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I did do as other people have said talking about rabbit holes and deep dives. I did a Warren Zeevon deep dive. Oh, nice. Cool. Just because I was watching a TV show the other day and one of his songs was on there. I was like, oh, fuck, I love Warren Zeevon. I haven't listened to him. And so I just like put all his albums on my phone and I've been listening to that like incessantly. So that's probably what I've been listening to the most. I also been listening to Ozzy's Diary of a Madman quite a bit.

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And then three newer things. I know, only three. Necropanther has a new EP. I don't know if it's out yet or if we just got the promo. I think we just have the promo. It's called In Depths We Sleep. I don't think a whole lot of the name Necropanther. It's kind of goofy. But I really kind of dig this band. Alas, I've only listened to the first song on this because I've

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to listen to it for the episode.

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But what I've listened to so far, I dig.

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And that's because the next album that I've been listening to is another promo for the band Stonehealer.

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It's their first full-length album called Conquistador.

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It's a progressive black metal band featuring Dave Kaminsky, who John and I at least know from playing live with him, Farah Bruo, out of the Boston area.

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He's also, or released was, also in a band called In Human Form. And we've met Dave a couple times when they played. And good guy. Killer fucking album as far as I'm concerned. It's not out until the end of April, but when you have the opportunity, you should check it out. Yeah, you definitely like it because I think you pre-ordered and you never pre-order on Bandcamp. Yeah, I was, yeah, I mean, I do when I know people, you know. Yeah.

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But I was like, yeah, this is a fucking lister right here. So I'm just going to go ahead and pre-order this shit right now. It's really good. They have an EP previously. And so this is the full length debut. And I put on the promo while I was working. So as I am prone to do, I get halfway through the album before I realize, hey, this is pretty fucking good. And I have to stop and go, okay, focus, go back to the beginning.

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as Fassini says to do and start over. And then I was like, holy shit, this is really good. It's proggier than I tend towards. It's more proggy than black, but it's really fucking cool. So I highly recommend it when you can listen to it. Last one is a band. I feel like maybe somebody on here has mentioned it and I just didn't know how to spell it.

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In that case, it's probably you. You probably told yourself about it. But when Dan Clanchar mentioned it on one of our weekly. Clowncar. It's pronounced Clowncar. I'm sorry. That was my pronunciation. Clanchar. Clowncar. We love you, Dan. When he mentioned it on one of our new releases, I said, huh, I should listen to that. And that is the

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The band that I will mispronounce. Yoth Iria? Y-O-T-H-I-R-I-A. Urethra? What? Urethra. I actually mentioned it beforehand. I thought you might have, but again, probably because of the pronunciation, I probably was like, I don't know what the fuck that is. That's a great album. It's called As the Flame Withers. It's the full-length debut. They're a Greek black metal band, and this is pretty fucking cool.

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So can I you guys weren't trying to say Aretha Franklin were you just checking in y'all area just your

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your your Franklin Franklin yeah that's it that's it for me oh I mean I'll in the episode I need to take down my sleep poster behind me so so Andy and Jonah when we used to whatever several episodes

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go or infinitum.

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George would just go on and on and on in alphabetical order,

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usually listing about 30 albums that he's listening to.

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I listened to a lot.

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What can I say?

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Yeah.

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And we're all like,

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good.

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And so we just like,

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let's put on dope smoker and take a break.

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And by the time we're done,

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George,

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George will be done.

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So I have my,

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my,

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my sleep dope smoker poster back there,

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but he,

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we,

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he shortened it up and put a different poster up there.

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Well, as mentioned on Facebook, the part of George's list is now played by Markison's list because now Markison is making longer lists. On Metal Friday, when I post, I usually post a very long list because I do listen to a lot of metal. So I want people to just know about stuff that's out there because you would miss so many things. That was the whole reason I started the fucking podcast. And y'all are giving me grief about talking about lots of albums. I'm like, that's the point. Well, you know, you understand we just like giving you grief, right, George?

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Yeah, I don't know how many I had in this one, maybe eight. So I don't listen to your suggestions. I just do what I want. But yeah, that's the other reason I'm like, why bother? Nobody's fucking listening. But no, I like, this is just going into the weeds, but I like when you do fewer and then you get to describe what the albums are like. And actually, Andy and Jonah did a great job of doing this list because they really explained what the album's like, what they felt when they listened to it and what they were like.

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like 50 albums you know what i mean honestly like regardless of either of those

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because of the pandemic it's been so long since i've had a chance to talk to like

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five or ten metal dudes about yeah this is a treat either way like that's awesome

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opportunity we really get these days yeah we really guys are kick-ass guests man you guys are

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Really fun to talk to you.

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Thank you.

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You're probably your favorite guest ever.

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This is like super fun.

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Easily the best guest we've ever had.

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Oh, thank you.

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I actually take that with a grain of salt.

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I say that every show apparently I'm told.

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In this case, though, I definitely love it.

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Can I just say yes?

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Yeah.

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If this show just keeps getting better, what can I tell you?

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Every cast is the best cast.

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That's the way it is.

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Because you're in it in the moment.

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Jeez, Jay, build them up, knock them down.

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Jeez, Jay.

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Why would you have to say that, Jay? Well, this is why the casts are long, though, guys. It's because we just like talking to each other about metal. And then we pick each other apart for a little while, and then we pick on one of us. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to drumroll, announce the Metal Thunderdome winner from last time before we get into the top five. Right, right, right. So last time,

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Was Gojira's The Way of All Flesh versus Mastodon's Blood Mountain? A brilliant, brilliant versus. Do our guests have a preference on either one of these? Thunderdome, pair of two albums together. I've never heard either record. Wow. I listened to the Mastodon one with the horse splitting apart. That one I heard. And the one... Permission. Permission. I heard those two and that drummer is wild.

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And I know that I've heard some of the radio stuff that's like more like Rush. And I know that they're brilliant musicians and they're awesome. Like from what I hear, they're really cool dudes. I think I stayed at Brand's house once when he was on tour and his wife was really nice and she gave us spaghetti for breakfast. But other than that, I know nothing about Mastodon. And Gojira I've never heard of. I thought it was like a super fruit berry until I read it.

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It's Godzilla. Oh my gosh. Andy, I know you're the guest and all, but I may like messed up, but there's no rush. Just back away slowly. Yeah. I actually was in a bar in Atlanta and Bran pulled up next to me and I ended up drinking with him and his buddy for a couple hours and total random chance. And it was kind of fun. So yeah, I'm sure there's

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That was a beer witty connection there. He was like, oh, y'all are staying in Atlanta, you know, 10 years ago. He's like, brand's on tour, but I've contacted his wife. She'll just, you can crash on their couches. And she left it up the door open. And in the morning, she's like, good morning, guys. Like, sorry, I don't have other breakfast food, but here's spaghetti if you want. Did you get meatballs? No, I think it was like sauce and

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Like, you know, last night's leftovers, but it was delicious. That's so nice. I would say if you have not heard Gojira, go listen to Spotify or whatever, their album Mars to Sirius. You know what? I would even say start with the link first so that you can be blown away even more from Mars to Sirius. It really is good. The link is pretty cool. They like large animals.

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For Mars to Cirrus has whales. The new video has elephants. They like big animals. This song is kick-ass, man. I really like it. I think I'm kind of with Andy where I'm not super familiar with the two records you're talking about, but the early Macedon records blew my mind. Leviathan is amazing. Remission is awesome, too. I got to see them in real small rooms when they were coming through Massachusetts.

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like in Worcester and like playing the small stage at the Palladium. I think some of that stuff is on there. The DVD they released years ago. Some of the early stuff I think is from up there. Yeah. I think it's awesome. There wasn't really a comparison at the time. It was like stoner metal tone but like with like psych like Andy's like the drumming was just out of this fucking world. I don't know when I first saw them I was like this is a band I've like.

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Absolutely. Absolutely. Blew my mind. Gojira is cool too. Again, I'm not totally familiar with those specific records, but I guess I'll go with Mastodon just because those first records were out of fucking control. All right. Well, the listeners have voted and the winner, 63% to 37% was? Blood Mountain. Gojira. Wow. Nice. I'm not surprised. Yeah, I guess I'm not in.

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I thought it might be a little closer. You know, I would be willing to put money on this because Will touched on this last episode. I would bet that some people went with Gojira just for the simple fact that Mastodon is not, not that they're not the same band. They kind of shy away from what they used to be, whereas Gojira kind of just keeps prodding along in the metal world a little more. And I'm not knocking Mastodon, I'm not a big fan of the last three albums,

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I still think they're fairly metal, but I could see people have walked away from that. Gojira is more metal. They stayed more to their metal roots, even though they've branched out. Well, if this new album's like the last song, then definitely. It's better than the previous song they released last year. To me, it sounds like Gojira is back, to be honest with you, because they have wandered a little bit. Some girls will wander.

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They're just such good musicians. I think they just want to try different things. And I like that. I actually enjoy that. I don't want the same album I've ever owned. I like Magma. It just, they kind of, they, I think they mentioned in an interview, they wanted to not dumb down their music, but make it a little more user friendly. And I was like, no, dude, I want Flying Whales every fucking song. I want that stuff. I think you're right, John. I think they said that they wanted to dumb it down and drink more beer and then make albums. Somebody said,

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I don't know.

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But I will say this.

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When George and I saw them and we had the side seats behind the stage, they were fucking insane.

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And I know Will and I saw them one night.

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That was our first date, by the way.

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Yeah.

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And I've seen them other times before.

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Those early tours, they were just fucking crazy live.

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Yeah.

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I mean, Gojira's really good live.

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Even the newer stuff, even if it doesn't feel.

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It sounds way better live.

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It's great live. So they're on to something with those tracks because they really, when they play them live, they take on a whole different dimension, I think, than on the album. Yeah. By the way, that new song on YouTube already has a million listens, dude. So they're getting big, too. I mean, they are one of the bigger metal bands, right? I would say they're one of the bigger metal bands out there right now. Visibility-wise, crossover-wise. Sure. I'll buy that. All right.

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There's no slipknot, but we don't know. Actually, I'm going to go with Stone Sour. I don't even know what that is. That's, you know, if you're following Blabbermouth, you know Stone Sour. Come on, that's that. What's his name from? Corey. Yeah, Corey. What does Corey have to say about this? Corey? Corey Taylor. Corey Haim? Yeah, Corey Haim. Yeah, it was Corey Haim. I actually pay attention. Yeah, because he's dead, so that'd be interesting.

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Yeah. Right. Right. Right. So. So live though. Right. I'll have a does some crazy stuff. I saw him live like four years ago. I was sick. You saw Feldman live. I would love to see him live. Yeah, he did. Yeah. He does the it's Feldman's ain't Corey's angels. They're like. Right. It's like Victoria's secret. Yeah. Yeah. My wife and I went to see him in Baltimore. And I mean, he comes out on the hoverboard like the, you know, the thing where you like lean into it's kind of like a.

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That's wild. I mean, he has like props, like he has like the, you know, original props from movies he's been in. And, and then he taught and tells a story about the movie and they broadcast the imagery behind. I mean, it was something else. It was, I mean, he's saying like, little sister, you know, he's like going through every movie is awesome. I mean, his movie stand by me is one of my, like, Oh yeah. Goonies dude. Goonies is not as good as stand by me.

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Not to name drop too hard here. I was scabbing as a drummer for this band on a tour with a, it was like a multi-band package and everyone's sharing a bus thing. And the bass player that was scabbing for the headliner randomly one day was like, yeah, I was like one of Corey's angels. And everyone's like, what? She's like, yeah, you know, it's like LA, you know, you just like take jobs.

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If you get offered them, and like, Ori, like, wanted a bunch of chicks, and like, I'm a session bass player, and like, it was like 1,000 times weirder than it looked like. Like, they were like. It looked weird. Like, it looked weird, and like, she was like, okay, here's like, as a professional, like, here's the gear I need. Here's like, you know, like, you have like, stage specs. You know, you're like, this is, I'm a professional.

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And she just showed up and they're like, no band practice.

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Here's your combo amp. I hope you learn the songs.

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Let's drink a bunch of alcohol.

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Here's your bikini.

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And you're on USA Today in 20 minutes kind of vibe.

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Whoa.

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She was like, they gave me a halo to wear.

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And we didn't have band practice.

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They were more worried about the costumes.

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And then like, it was just like, this chick was like, like, trust me. I have the weirdest, craziest stories. And no matter how weird that bands, the band seemed, it was like a thousand times fucking weirder. I'm going to D pop all my tour shirts and gear that I bought on that. That's so funny. Cause like my wife, I think it was like a morning show. It might've been the today show. And like, he came out and did his thing. And when it was done, we looked at each other like, what the fuck?

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Oh no that that that appearance when fire roll people were like and most of the headlines were so bad which I want to see it I was gonna say that was my first thought we're like I need to see this in person I was like no fucking way just because you play bass you're from LA you think you can and I pulled it up I was like oh my god that's you so we Andy was it as bad as what they showed on television when you went nothing about it was bad it was like

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weird is all it was. It was put together, but to add to what Jonah's saying, because we haven't actually talked about this connection yet, so me seeing it and him interacting with her, but in between, so it would be like, so that Corey had a break between every song, they would have one of his angels, they would be like, and next up, they would showcase one of the angels, they'd be like, here's Kathy on bass, Kathy from San Francisco, who's a grunger,

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And then they would play like Smells by Teen Spirit. And she would sing it. And Corey would disappear. And it would just be the angels. And then Corey would do like, you know, the song from Lost Boys. And then it'd be like, all right, Sarah the drummer. And she'd do like a drum solo. And then it'd be like, all right. And then, you know, some like, I don't know, Led Zeppelin, Levy's Gonna Break. I don't know what they did exactly. But they would, you know, cover a song to give him some time. Wow.

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But he does have a whole album out though, right? I just never listened to it. Not that I was ignoring the rest of you, but I looked at the YouTube video and if you just do Corey Feldman on YouTube, it's the first thing that comes up. So it's the USA Today performance. So yeah, and it's, it is, I was reminded exactly how fucking weird that was. The girl that plays bass or played bass in his band, you might just assume it was like some random ass whatever. She was on the cover of like Bass Player Magazine pretty recently. Like, obviously

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That dude has enough cash that he shelled out for like legit LA rocker studio people. So the fact that it was like these really weird songs with these people. That did not require the best. And he has someone that's a cover story for Bass Player Magazine in this dumb costume.

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Like months before that Netflix Michael Jackson documentary came out, which is weird. But I will say this. Yeah, it would have made it sadder, I think, if you had seen them in the opposite order. You would have been like, this is kind of exploitation. Andy, where did you see the play? Was it in Richmond? No, I feel like it was either Baltimore or Norfolk. I feel like it was probably Baltimore. Like Ramsett, maybe? Yeah, I think so.

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I think it was Rams Head. Corey Feldman deserves Rams Head over Soundstage. When Loud Night plays live shows again, you should dress up as angels with halos. That'd be fucking awesome. Or maybe they can open for you guys. I don't think you want to go on after that. We really went down the rabbit hole with that one, didn't we? This is like an exclusive, though. So, Marcus, on a regular episode?

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Yeah, pretty much.

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Welcome to the Metalheads podcast.

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With angels.

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Let's do top five.

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So this episode's rather top five. Chosen, I believe, by Markisan. Is the top five metal songs you would spin if you had a radio show. So, you know, no big whoop, real easy to do. Pick five songs out of eight million. Okay. Yeah, but at the same time, it's like, this is what I like, fuck you. That's what I'm playing. Yeah. There'll be like no overlap on these lists. No. When I did this one, I left it open.

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So you could just pick your favorite songs of all time. Or what I did is I actually picked a theme and named my radio show and then had the songs actually fit into that. Okay. I like it. Fine then. Go the extra mile. Oh, I always do. I assume Andy and Jonah, you guys made a list. Five songs for like just five songs. You want to play them on air. And we do our fives first. So we start with you guys. Then we'll go back and run.

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I'll do four three two one so just give us your five and we'll start with

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either one of you could go first Jonah

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number five my theme for my radio show because it's a radio show my theme is uh

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like the world today and I got in FC if you'll die I'll die nice

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go we go I like that yeah

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I guess I'm going out on a limb here and I would say let's see here uh whoo uh whoo let's go under the rose with kiss dude loneliness will haunt you will you sacrifice dude I fucking that is an underrated album

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I've been going a little epic. I'm trying to make a bigger space out of a small area. And being enclosed in my home for a year. Yeah, just getting epic music going and Kiss Under the Rose. One of the few cuts from that music from The Elder that is really, really an epic jam. That's a fucking great song. There's another one on there. Well, I'll cut out. No, no.

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It's sort of like under the rose-ish. And actually, I got to come up with it real quick because it's the other one I really like on that record. You guys keep mentioning Rose and all I can think of is Kiss from Rose by Seal. I don't know why that's in my head. What a great song. So the other one that I really dig is, let's see, Only You is really good too. But it's, yeah. Wow. That was cool. Didn't expect that, but I like it. All right. Moving on to Markisan.

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So, like I said, I decided that if I became a DJ again, because I was a DJ in college, my show would require a theme. So I'm calling my fictional show The Last Rites Radio Hour, and it only features the final tracks from metal albums. Nice. So my top five list is made up of some of my favorite metal album closers, which I think would actually be a good top five.

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in the future as well. Top five metal album closers from any time. I agree with that. I decided. Right. Or Openers is also another good top five. Yeah. But for this, because I thought, oh, shit, I'm doing this. This would actually be a good top five later. I decided that I'm only going to pick albums from the year 2000 on. So that way I don't have all the old classics. Because it would be all Maiden and Slayer, to be honest with you. So it's just from 2000.

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So here we go. Last Rites Radio Hour number five for me is This Godless Endeavor by Nevermore. Fuck yeah, dude. Welcome to the end, my friends. The sky has opened. Fuck yes. That's the last one. I would just listen to that record three, four days ago. Jay and I are the This Godless Endeavor fan club. Big time. Yes. Well, I appreciate that. It's from the album that is called This Godless Endeavor. It came out in 2005.

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I love Nevermore. Still my favorite album by them. It is their best album. And this last song, I think, has everything in it that made them such a great band. It's a nine-minute track, amazing mix of melody, technicality, mind-melting riffs, and World Dane. Finest moment. I think it's his finest moment. Awesome, John. Yeah, because his performance hits all the sweet spots, right? It's got that tender fragility.

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at the very beginning of it. Yeah. The soaring croons still at the start. Then the powerful barks. Yeah. And then the track terms bombastic. And he hits even it's a high note in that one, too. Yeah. It's one of my favorite closers. It is my favorite closer from Nevermore. I had to have it on there, though. I say I'm happy to meet you. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I you know, there's a couple I have to say a couple things to that song because I love it. And again, I said after one

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their full record and on this epic song to have that end with welcome to the end my friend the sky is open is fucking epic but also there's this one riff i can never quite count on there and it's doing dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun

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Yeah, I agree. That's part of the reason why this is on there, but also because it's just a fucking phenomenal song. Yeah, it really is. It's all Century Media compilation, like, metal. Yeah, no, you got it. Yeah. You know those Century Media comps that they used to put out all the time? Yeah. They were Century Media, man. They were not as appreciated as they should have been, by the way, in their time. Appreciated by us here on the Metalheads Podcast. Indeed. Well, let's get to Matt, then. Excellent. Kiss from a Rose. That was Matt.

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Forever. It was. Yes. I'm serious. I like that song. So do I. Batman Forever was a shit movie, but the song was great. Exactly. If I was doing a radio show, I would either focus on local music, underground music, or music that I make up. Jonah, Andy, I'm known on this show for making up band names because I don't do my homework. I don't put the work in, so I just make shit up. And so I would use my

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I would use my show to vindicate that this shit actually exists. My radio show would be called Two Minutes to Bitchy and it would start at 11.58 p.m. on any given night. So number five, Equilibrium Unreached. The band is Decoherence. It's from the 2020 album Unitarity. It's kind of like industrial black metal, which at first I thought black metal meets skinny puppy. It actually sounds a lot like Moodle Snort.

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You'll see a theme. I'm really in a big blue-dose word kick. So yeah, my number five. Even though this is, I'm an idiot to point this out, and I know y'all caught it, I appreciate the two minutes to midnight reference there, Matt. Nicely done. You bet. I appreciate that Matt created a radio show with a name. That's awesome. And I just don't say a lot, so I'm trying to keep us on track for time. Usually I know I'm super chatty, but tonight I'm trying to rain it in.

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Did you see that the doomsday clock is at like 13 seconds to midnight or some shit like that now? Yeah, it's like we're almost dead. Yeah, we're getting there. Yeah soon. It'll be soon. Yeah, it's really fucking close. I guess that makes sense. Yep. So I got two things to say first before I go to my list one. I have a PSA. Well, you'll probably appreciate this. I have to say I really like a 16 ounce beer can because I thought I'd

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my beer and I realized I had half a beer left and I just poured it and I got another beer. So I'm pretty fucking happy about that. Good. I don't know. I mean, maybe you guys haven't had that happen to you yet, but I'm sitting here and I thought, fuck, I got to get another beer. I had a half a beer still. I only buy them in that size now just because it's like, it's a nice full glass. Yeah. Yeah. My second thing is, uh, I was really happy when Markisan suggested this because I had a radio, I had two radio stations on live 365 for like 15 years. I,

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I did radio and I had a live radio show on Yeti radio for years. I used to go on live and do that. So I was pretty happy about this. Etsy radio. Long gone. Long gone. And I've considered reviving my stuff on live 365, but I don't want to pay the royalties anymore because they really stick it to independent small radio stations. Yeah. In terms of how much we have to pay for royalties.

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I don't mind paying royalties I think you should but I don't think that

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independent should pay twice as much as if they're gonna stick it to you at least small no

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the reason I ended up having to get out is because they were still making independent radio pay 14 cents a

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song versus telestial radio which is corporate radio paying seven cents a song that's kind of fucked up

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personally but um I'd love to get back in but anyway so I I used to do this all the time so when I

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heard this was like fuck I'm down and I made a huge list but I paired it down to five

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And my list is in order of how I would play the songs on the show. And I, like I'm sure other people did a wide range of stuff. And I went with the most cliche metal song to start it out, but it is the greatest opening to any metal song ever. Jonah's going to appreciate this. It's not even music that starts out the song. It's talking. We shall defend our island. Could be that.

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Whatever the cost may be.

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Or Vincent Price.

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First word is woe.

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View of Earth and Sea.

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Fair enough.

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It is the most metal intro ever because you're like, what is this?

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I remember when that video came out.

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Devil brings a beef with a raw.

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Yes.

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The time is short.

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And then it goes into the rough.

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Understanding wrecking the number of the beast.

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For it is a human number.

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It's not.

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John's getting mad at us right now.

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No, not at all.

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Keep us going

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I mean

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When I was 82

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So I would have been

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When you were 82

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Holy shit

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You would have been

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You would have been

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You were great

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I was high school

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In 82

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I was four

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You could have been

03:21:43.720 --> 03:21:44.280
My kid Matt

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Seriously

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If I had fucked up

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Have we had a DNA test

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If he had fucked up

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I mean he's a

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He's a nice human being

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You don't have to say

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Hey

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This is John

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I fucked up

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He's my dad

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Actually

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Maybe the more accurate

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If anybody would have had sex with me at that time, you could be my kid. I might have had to wait until I was 35 or so. This is Joe. He's my dad. Anyway, to make a long story short, my intro track to start my playlist would have been Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast just because just to hear that intro and literally when it first came out, Jay knows what I mean, on Beast of Hammersmith, nobody knows what's going on.

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Now, 30 years later, literally thousands of people will say that intro before they play the song. Yeah. So. But when you hear those first words, you don't know exactly where it's going. Yeah. And the first time I ever saw Maiden, they opened with that song. Fuck yeah. Nice. Sweet. So my funny story with that, real quick, is that I have a 10-year-old and a 7-year-old, and they're always saying, like, whoa! And I cannot, it's like,

03:22:55.760 --> 03:23:23.540
The Pavlovian dog reaction is like, if anyone says, whoa, I'm like, to you. Driving the car, the kids are like, whoa, look at that. I'm like, whoa, to you. I did not really put this together as an order five. So I'm going to kind of half make this up my order. I do have five.

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We have guests from Richmond,

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motherfucking Virginia.

03:23:32.480 --> 03:23:34.740
And I do love this band.

03:23:35.679 --> 03:23:37.940
And I slam of God,

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isn't it?

03:23:39.460 --> 03:23:39.900
Oh,

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fuck.

03:23:41.060 --> 03:23:41.120
No.

03:23:44.540 --> 03:23:45.440
It's like a fucking,

03:23:45.600 --> 03:23:46.740
like a boner kill right there,

03:23:46.880 --> 03:23:47.040
man.

03:23:47.780 --> 03:23:48.060
Christ,

03:23:48.320 --> 03:23:48.440
man.

03:23:48.500 --> 03:23:49.460
Why are you going to mention this guy?

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Sorry.

03:23:51.770 --> 03:23:52.480
I don't know if you're.

03:23:53.060 --> 03:23:53.180
Yeah.

03:23:53.340 --> 03:23:53.880
Yeah.

03:23:53.930 --> 03:23:54.160
I know.

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You're like,

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You just insulted them. Real nice guys. I'm sure they are. I met Randy once. It was cool. I have read Randy's book. I read this book. Anyway, I just know you're not a fan. So our armor on Paradise Gallows has has a two for song package that I just feel like just they have to be played together. And it's like that almost like Guzira. It's like the heaviest matter in the universe when this comes out. And I just want like I just want to pummel

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I don't think I've ever seen a heavier band live than Nitterarma.

03:24:54.680 --> 03:24:55.740
Think of it as

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what is it

03:24:58.819 --> 03:25:00.080
on Rain and Blood

03:25:00.620 --> 03:25:02.280
where they completely fucked up the mastering

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and

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Rain and Blood is preceded

03:25:06.880 --> 03:25:07.300
by

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postmortem

03:25:09.560 --> 03:25:09.620
yeah

03:25:10.280 --> 03:25:11.540
yeah and they kind of run together

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it's like one song on like the CD

03:25:14.100 --> 03:25:14.840
and everything like that

03:25:15.260 --> 03:25:15.920
I want this to be

03:25:15.920 --> 03:25:16.800
The Archers and the Emptiness

03:25:16.920 --> 03:25:17.780
and Transfiguration

03:25:18.020 --> 03:25:18.700
that's what I want

03:25:20.000 --> 03:25:20.220
alright

03:25:20.500 --> 03:25:20.940
alright Jay

03:25:20.980 --> 03:25:21.100
cool

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alright mine is

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Some idiot is driving around late at night and is, well, not an idiot, but somebody who's not necessarily into a heavy metal, but let's say drives a big rig and kind of thing. So my theme is if after you get through these first five songs in my radio show, you don't like heavy metal, well, there's no hope for you, like in heavy metal. So I went for some iconic tracks from some iconic albums, but I always like to go a little deeper. So I wouldn't say you have to have some Black Sabbath, but I decided I had to have some Black Sabbath as it was

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and I think Sabbath probably was at their nader when

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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath came out as far as just the technical virtuosity of the album

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and my favorite song on that record is called

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A National Acrobat.

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A song about sperm.

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It is. It is. But every time I hear that song

03:26:18.780 --> 03:26:22.400
I just it's one of those songs I never get tired of. It's got such a sick groove

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It kind of goes to some different places, speeds up towards the end. Wonderful song. Goes on my radio show. Dave for the win. All right. I don't really have a theme or a name or anything cool like that, although I would say that four of my five songs are, like, depressed. So they're all sentence songs. Sentence. The Shining. Thank you, Marcus. Yes, the theme is, woe is me.

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You know how much he loves that man. Holy shit. There's no one podcast where we did something and it was like all sentenced. Yeah, no, the top 50. I had like five of them. And number five is in fact Sentenced. I was so hammered, but that's all I remember is Sentenced. Yeah, the song is called Fragile. It's from the Crimson album. That's awesome. Will, you missed an opportunity there because George said the name of his show was

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I think it could have been

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Woe is me

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Alright

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That brings us back to the top or bottom

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of the batting order depending on how you see it

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I believe we started with

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Jonah

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Or with Andy

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No it was Jonah

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Keeping the theme going for mine with

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Epic I also like to just

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never want it to be strictly metal

03:27:48.480 --> 03:27:49.700
So jumping around

03:27:50.100 --> 03:27:52.380
you also don't want to end it with something

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So four is the perfect spot for a song like Danzig singing Elvis. And that's the epic aspect is Elvis is eternal and Danzig is eternal. So covering becomes double eternal. And if I had to pick one from Danzig's singing Elvis record that came out last year, I'd pick Loving Arms because it's totally creepy as shit. So I am probably the only album is really good. I've seen it a few times.

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I really like that out. Me too. It's really good, but it's really good. It's really good. The last album before that one was terrible, but this one is awesome. All it took was him covering all platinum songs. Yeah, exactly. Dude, I saw a great meme the other day and it said Elvis Presley, when he returned from the military, got off of the plane and as he was walking through the crowd or whatever that had come to greet him, he ran into a homeless woman who was with her baby and he,

03:28:52.640 --> 03:29:15.140
e como ele deu-se em um

03:29:22.100 --> 03:29:51.500
about Elvis on, I want to say HBO that I watched recently, and it was so good. I was riveted by it. I'll have to look at the name. He loves cops, though, and that's where I draw the line. He did love cops. Pictures of him all fucked up hanging out with Nixon, like getting a FBI badge and shit. What a trip. And he thought he knew Kung Fu and a lot of other weird shit. Oh, man, what a trip. But the dancing, it's a really good pick because you just don't hear that much about that cover album, and I think it's an exceptional.

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It deserved to be treated better than it was, I thought. Indeed. And it will be on Andy's radio show. All right. Nice. Jonah. All right. So based on the conversation we've been having, I am now going to name my radio show Doomsday Clock. Nice. You know, it's all everything's fucked. Everything sucks. Obviously.

03:30:22.100 --> 03:30:51.840
So my number four is the band Driller Killer and the song Legalize Murder Now, which if you haven't heard it, it is just driving fucking Swedish TV. It's like if you're into disfear and all that, it's like it's like if those guys were as dumb as Hatebreed, it is just like fucking in the face with just like keep it simple, stupid Scandinavian crust riffage.

03:30:52.100 --> 03:31:22.060
So good. Legalize murder now. Kill everyone. Everything sucks. Awesome. Mark is on. Oh, me. Right. So my number four is The Watcher by Enslaved on Vertebrae. I knew Enslaved would make this list because they just have so many standout songs. But I was actually surprised by how many

03:31:22.120 --> 03:31:49.640
any great closing songs they have. I consider Forsaken, Lightning, but I went with The Watcher because most of my top five, as you'll see, consists of long tracks, and I wanted something a little more brisk in the mix. And I just love the way The Watcher moves. It has like a real rolling quality to the song that I really appreciate, and the vocal harmonies on that chorus are just gorgeous.

03:31:50.920 --> 03:31:54.780
I'm a huge enslaved fan and so

03:31:55.690 --> 03:31:56.860
when I was doing this top five

03:31:57.410 --> 03:31:59.160
I knew they were going to be on there in some fashion

03:31:59.330 --> 03:32:01.040
so The Watcher

03:32:01.370 --> 03:32:03.360
great ending song to VertiBray

03:32:04.580 --> 03:32:05.000
alright

03:32:05.410 --> 03:32:05.520
Matt

03:32:06.579 --> 03:32:09.320
VertiBray was my first enslaved album and The Watcher

03:32:09.370 --> 03:32:11.320
was the first enslaved song I ever

03:32:11.480 --> 03:32:12.120
fell in love with

03:32:12.580 --> 03:32:13.660
it's a good first album to get

03:32:14.760 --> 03:32:16.020
I just love that song

03:32:16.650 --> 03:32:18.160
okay for me my made up shit

03:32:18.520 --> 03:32:19.920
although George I think you know this band

03:32:19.940 --> 03:32:49.680
The band is Declined of the Eye, and they have a new album coming out called Johannes. The song is called The Veil of Splendid Lies. Think like post-black metal, more post than black metal. Reminds me of Crow Horse mixed with the ocean, but not quite as dynamic. But if you think it exists, go look for it on Bandcamp. Crow Horse mixed with the ocean. All right, then.

03:32:49.920 --> 03:32:50.440
John.

03:32:50.610 --> 03:32:50.740
John.

03:32:52.300 --> 03:32:52.600
All right.

03:32:52.860 --> 03:32:58.260
So keeping in order of putting together a playlist that flows,

03:32:59.690 --> 03:33:04.240
you guys have heard me always going on and on about the Wode album from a couple of years ago,

03:33:04.380 --> 03:33:05.580
how the second song on the album,

03:33:05.700 --> 03:33:10.260
I'm a big fan of second songs that kill first song is always cool.

03:33:10.260 --> 03:33:12.480
But the second song is the one that pulls me in.

03:33:12.640 --> 03:33:15.900
You always skip the first song that George actually listens to on an album.

03:33:16.010 --> 03:33:16.160
Exactly.

03:33:16.370 --> 03:33:17.520
You always skip the first song.

03:33:18.020 --> 03:33:45.640
It's because the first song usually is just nonsense. It's intro. I'm always big about a second song that really keeps an album going. And so that's the same for my playlist. And I wanted something new. So, and I always, when I would put playlists together, I always wanted to hear how a song ended and how a next song started. I always thought that played a lot into it on how it kind of set the tone for how people were listening.

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I went to last year for a song. I went with my album of the year, Cryptic Shift, and I chose the song Petrified in the Hypogean Jail off of their album Visitations from Enceladus. Sweet. Enceladus. Enceladus. Thank you, Mark. I always say it that way just so you say it that way. Oh, okay. What a great song. Awesome pick, John.

03:34:17.300 --> 03:34:19.060
a classic old song.

03:34:20.190 --> 03:34:21.220
And I love that album.

03:34:21.450 --> 03:34:22.640
And I thought that was kind of good.

03:34:23.220 --> 03:34:24.640
And like Markisan my,

03:34:25.120 --> 03:34:26.120
my playlist is long.

03:34:26.180 --> 03:34:27.160
It's five songs.

03:34:27.340 --> 03:34:28.420
It's over 40 minutes long.

03:34:28.510 --> 03:34:30.080
So there's some long songs coming.

03:34:31.380 --> 03:34:31.500
Yeah.

03:34:31.620 --> 03:34:32.760
It's funny because,

03:34:33.260 --> 03:34:33.480
you know,

03:34:33.660 --> 03:34:34.960
I called mine,

03:34:35.040 --> 03:34:36.340
the last rights radio hour.

03:34:36.370 --> 03:34:37.800
I might be over an hour.

03:34:38.440 --> 03:34:38.940
That's awesome.

03:34:39.060 --> 03:34:39.820
Five songs.

03:34:40.640 --> 03:34:40.780
Nice.

03:34:42.120 --> 03:34:42.900
Radio show.

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Well,

03:34:45.780 --> 03:34:46.180
my,

03:34:46.670 --> 03:34:46.800
so,

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I have a kind of mostly old stuff, but my number two is definitely by far. Number four, you mean? It might be number two in his playlist, though. Sorry. I'm going by George's Order, which is number five is the top four. Anyway, blah, blah. My number four is Flesh to Nothing by Chemists. Desolation. Wow.

03:35:16.960 --> 03:35:46.860
I absolutely fucking love this song. I wanted to have something in there that was a little bit newer on my playlist that I'm going to share on my radio station that, you know, a little bit doomier had the, you know, the, the, the dueling harmonized guitars and the little bit of the, the clean vocals from Phil and the harsh vocals from Ben. Like, I just think there's one of them probably my favorite chemist song. Not probably. It is my favorite chemist.

03:35:47.000 --> 03:36:14.920
And my 10-year-old daughter is an absolute mad raving chemist fan. She has two giant chemist flags in her room. Did they cost $700? No, because I didn't have $20 beers. She listens to chemists when she's taking showers. She listens to chemists when she's doing gymnastics.

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My daughter, who's 10, is a Mad Raven Kennis fan. And her highlight so far this year is when Phil, I was texting with Phil, and right around her birthday, he sent a message. Oh, that's awesome, dude. Doesn't get better than that. She was like, huh? Those guys in Kennis are really good dudes, too. It kind of made me seem like the coolest father in the world. Like, oh yeah, your favorite band? Yeah. You want me to text that guy?

03:36:46.020 --> 03:37:15.980
Yeah, I could text that guy. Anyway. Jay. Awesome. Sticking with my theme of if you don't like heavy metal at the end of my show, then you'll never like heavy metal. But you also got to be put through the grinder a little bit to make sure that you can take it all. And I didn't really put a lot of what I would call extreme metal. George has been on Grindr a lot. Grindr. His screen name is I Can Take It All. I didn't put a lot of

03:37:16.140 --> 03:37:45.880
extreme metal on here and this these days doesn't really qualify as extreme metal but a very important band in metal of course is Slayer um and I um really want to Andy tell you how much I appreciate the shout out of Shona Mercy because I got that the year it came out and it was like the only thing I listened to that fucking year huge Slayer fanatic but I went with something from Hell Awaits and it's a song called Kill Again um I just fucking love that track and it would go great after National Acrobat

03:37:47.681 --> 03:37:48.700
That's it, Georgie.

03:37:52.780 --> 03:37:53.040
All right.

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So my next, uh, what was me song is now you won't guess this one.

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How will I laugh tomorrow?

03:38:06.850 --> 03:38:09.620
If I can't even smile today, that's cool.

03:38:09.730 --> 03:38:11.020
By suicidal tendencies.

03:38:14.380 --> 03:38:42.920
That's a really good fucking song. Dude, the Suicidal, they had three albums in a row. How to Left Tomorrow, Lights, Lights, Camera, Revolution, even Controlled by Hatred. I love that album. Those three albums in a row are just amazing. That's the definition of my high school right there. My high school years. All right. Number three. Andy.

03:38:46.240 --> 03:39:14.080
All right. I would say I got to put them on there. Going with the epic theme. Warriors Dawn by the Lord Weird Slotheg. Or Slotheg, depending on where you're from in your literary evolution. But yeah, Lord Weird Slotheg, huge fan of the group. It's an acquired taste, I know. But yeah, I never put them down and they never quit putting out records either.

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So as long as Billy Joel's alive, Slothig will release albums. And just picking one that fits the bill for an epic playlist. I'd say the Warriors Dawn off, I think, Down Among the Deadmen. But the one with the monster people. But yeah, love that group. And I think they are severely underrated. And I know it's not for everybody, but hey, metal isn't for it.

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Dude, we're fans here, man. I think they're amazing. I've seen them many times live. But that period, I would say, like Twilight of the Idols, Down Among the Dead Men, Traveler, Atavism, all those four albums, even Hard World, those are all fucking awesome. I love that period. Hard World is awesome. I'm really glad you guys are still doing it. I like Atavism. I think that one's really good. Atavism's after Hard World, yeah.

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My band opened for them once at a gay bar. Oh, cool. Yeah. Was it in their home turf? Yeah. I feel like all this San Francisco shows up player at gay bars. I think Adamism was like 2000. Jay, was that the end up? No, but I was going to send you guys a picture. No, that's a real bar in San Francisco. No, it was the Eagle. And when we got there, they had, I think I told you guys this once, but we got there.

03:40:43.060 --> 03:41:12.000
and on the kind of like marquee out front, just like one of those signs that you buy and is lit up. And then you put the little square letters in and it said, it's metal night whips and chains and leather. Oh, my. And I'll be perfectly blunt and say I didn't necessarily know it was a gay bar, which I didn't mind. But yeah, it was awesome. So where was it in the city? It's so much true. No market. Yeah. South of market. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. In any case, but that's a good call out. I like that.

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That's really good. I want to listen to Slough Fag. Those first six albums. I like the new stuff too. It's like, who else do you say that about like Sabbath and like Priest and Maiden? It's like, but seriously, the first seven albums are two. I know, they've done so many. So good. I was compelled to listen to Billy Joel. I love Billy Joel. We didn't start the fire. I have to share a Slough Fag, a brief thing with you. I promise it won't take long since we keep getting off track. But it was that

03:41:42.080 --> 03:42:11.800
Some guy in Poland paid them, brought them over, put on a show by them, printed it into a double album, and it just exists in this weird little vacuum. There was some rich guy who loved slow fake, and I have a copy of that record. It's a double live album. It's signed by the band, too. I'm PMing you my address right now. You just start packaging it up. I don't think he's part of that. This rich dude, he put together this big book and everything. It was just some guy.

03:42:12.100 --> 03:42:42.060
This weird vanity thing he did. And that's it. It's awesome. And I think it was limited to like 100 copies or something. I also opened for Slow Fag once in San Francisco and completely bombed. It's one of the worst sets I've ever played. I was like so stoked for the show. Like, man, this guy's like a total weirdo underground legend. And sometimes shit works. Sometimes it doesn't. I completely

03:42:42.080 --> 03:43:12.020
just train wrecked a song on stage and was like, well, at least this weirdo underground legends watching. That's cool. I feel like the few times I've seen them play, they actually didn't really play that great. Oh yeah, they weren't. I saw them in Chicago once and they were all wearing sombreros and it was like, oh, they do wear shillings. I think I was at that show. Yeah, yeah, it was like the Bible of the Devil. Yeah, I was there. It was a festival that they did.

03:43:12.100 --> 03:43:42.060
Yeah, it wasn't the most top-notch live performance, but I loved it. It didn't matter because they are top-notch. Yeah, because you know what? They bring an energy even if the performance isn't that great. There's an energy to that band. You can't stop watching them. I'm not trying to keep going back to this, but last time I saw them was before the, and they played with Satan here, the British band Satan. They opened for them. And in the middle of it, Mike's in a weird place right now. Mike's healthy, and I kind of know a little bit because

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I used to come to this book room I worked in in San Francisco State. He has a philosophy degree. And in the middle of the set, they suddenly changed. He went back and put on like a fedora. And then he came out and sang three Frank Sinatra songs. Yeah! My buddy Tan and Penlin always talks about seeing him do the Sinatra soliloquy, he calls it. And then he went back and he came back out with his shirt off.

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and they finished it as a metal band but it was so weird badass anyway where the hell are we Andy I think that that show in Chicago is called the ale horn of power it was it wasn't I was on a comic convention I drove 24 hours straight to Chicago to sell comic books at a comic convention that weekend so cool you're into comics too unbelievable where the hell are we Markisan no

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Yeah, hell yeah. All right. Oh, okay. Wow. My number three. No, number. Yeah. Number three. World ending coronavirus. Everything sucks. I got the van butcher. They're like European. I think maybe Belgian. The song thermonuclear road warrior. Wow. It's if you guys aren't up on a Aussie that is that the 666. Yeah.

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Yeah, the goats. 666 Goats Pull My Chariot. Yeah, that's a great album. That record's sick. It's the record before that one. Okay. And honestly, it's speaking of Satan, the guitar riff kind of sounds like Satan, the way they got that super noodley, like skiddle-ly-ly-ly-ly-ly, you know, like real hammer-on. Oh, sure. It's like satanic, and it's like tongue-in-cheek, but they're like,

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It's not a joke band, but you can tell they get it. They're covered in blood, and the mic stand is an upside-down cross. So you're like, okay, these guys are obviously super cool, but thermonuclear is one word in the song title, and it's spelled real wacky. You're like, all right, these guys get it. Like, Mad Max. And they got that real... It's like the Iron Maiden thing,

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line is doing one thing and the guitars are doing the noodley thing that goes in a different direction and it's like it's just like they catch up with each other and i don't know that's that's my number three fuck everything hey will will what did you think of when he said thermonuclear what song did you think of thermonuclear devastation of the planet earth ah my boy i knew he would yeah i got i got my uh onslaught yeah onslaught right there i knew that would come to your head it came to mind

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Nice. That brings us to Markson. Yes. Continuing my radio hour where I feature the last songs from albums. And it is Elysium Eternity is Nigh by Incantation from the album Dirges of Elysium released in 2014. This one is basically an EP. This is a true EP in one song.

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It's 16 minutes long. And I picked this track because I love incantation, as you guys know. And any playlists I make must include a slow, chugriffy, evil song on it. And that's what this is. It's fucking great. It's chugriffy. I think that might be their slowest, epicest, most evil record. So it's so... Dumicus. I believe you said it was your favorite record because I think I asked you what your favorite incantation because you did the deep dive and you're like,

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I think I like Dirges of Alyssia the best. Yeah, it's my favorite one. Yeah. And that's a great song. By degrees, though. Yeah, they're all. Of course. Matt. Yo, continuing with Banzai Makeup, I would play the song The Descent by the band Kaleeker from the album Heart of Lead, which came out in 2019. They are an Icelandic black metal band. They have a little bit of post-metal in there as well, but really solid melodies mixed with well-constructed

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And intensity. Or maybe not. I don't know. But did it really come out in 2019? Part of what? All right. Actually, that does. I guess the inside joke is that Matt likes such obscure music that we sometimes accuse him of just making shit up. Indeed. I have a really good dartboard. Yeah. That one does sound familiar, though. All right. Fair enough. John. All right.

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So song three on a five song playlist has to be your anchor song, something that kind of holds the whole playlist together. So I tried to think of something that would do that. And I, like George, was on a big USBM kick recently. So I went with a band that was featured in the USBM, the U.S. black metal book that we all read.

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And I was big on going with an animal that wasn't a whale, you know, or a mammoth. And George and Jay will appreciate this because it's an elephant. And it's the song Elephant Graveyard from Cobalt. Nice. Killer intro and an unbelievably killer outro on the song. Yeah. The link, the first half of the set list, playlist to the second half of the playlist. So Cobalt.

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Elephant Graveyard.

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And I never shut up about that song when this record comes up,

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but that groove at the end is just fucking sick, dude.

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It's just killer.

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And just the way it starts out, too, and I've said this before,

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people think I'm nuts, but that band, they get kind of thrown like,

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oh, they have like a Tool groove to their sound on that album.

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I'm like, they do Tool better than Tool does Tool, as far as I'm concerned.

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Yeah.

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I agree.

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Yeah.

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That's not a knock on Tool.

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I just think they have that groove down really well.

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That is a killer album. And fuck, they better put a new album out this year. Maybe they will. Like the rumors have been circulating. Well, you know, when we had Daniel and Nick on, I asked, I was like, so, you know, you got to talk to Eric. Is there going to be a new album out this song coming soon? And he was just kind of like, you know, he can't talk about it. Yes. I'm like, that sounds like a yes to me. Is the rumor floating that, you know,

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Something starting up again, maybe? I'm like, fuck yeah. I feel like he mentioned he was working on something in the book. I thought so, yeah. Will? It's probably good that Jonah stepped out for this pick. Off the greatest Judas Priest album ever. Oh, so Defenders of the Faith. There's a song about Will. There's a song about Will. He's implying.

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You're about to say jawbreaker, I think. Thank you, Jay. At least somebody got it. COVID hurts glory holes, too, okay? Well, it's not Riot, what is it, Riot Hard Rock? There's basically a song about almost like a street fight battle where there's just blood and smoke in the air. And this song, I fucking love this song.

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inspired me. So did machine library with the absolute great Steve Jones from Oliver Ales. And we made a beer, a smoked red ale called the Sentinel by Judas Priest. Nice. Good call. I just came back. So next. All right. Jesus is cool.

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I like I know how you feel, Jonah. You say one comment and everybody's like, well, you're the Judas Priest hater from now on. You know what I mean? Jay's a hater of many bands. Well, as luck would have it, I chose the Judas Priest song for my number three as well. You will remember we are, if you don't love this, you don't love metal. And it's funny, John, that you chose Elephant Graveyard because mine ends with a,

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What I would not call a similar groove, but a killer groove that just goes on for several minutes. Pretty sure John knows what I'm about to say. It's a, call it a middle era Judas Priest song. Um, and it's just, it's easily one of my top five favorite Judas Priest songs from British Steel, the closing track. So it fits, uh, Marcus Sons. Yes, I knew it. Uh, Steeler. Yes. That's a good fucking track. And I just love how they get into that groove at the end and they just keep going. Oh, dude, I saw them play it on the last tour. It was fucking awesome. Yeah.

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We really need to do a top five best closing tracks. Yeah. Stealer. For the record, if I was going to put a Priest song on my playlist, it would be Blood Red Skies off the album that everybody hates. Well, I feel like you just gave away a spoiler because I assume that was going to be on your list. It's not. I didn't think. If I had thought of it, it might have been. But I didn't. That's your favorite song of all time.

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a lot to me, despite the drums. Good song, though. I actually like that song, George. Yeah, it's a fucking great song. It's like, I mean, it's really the only thing off Ram It Down that's... I mean, it's the best song off the album, anyway. Let's put it that way. I mean, it's no terrible. Johnny B. Good. I didn't know it, John. I think the title track's good, too. Yeah, yeah, there's some okay stuff, but that's definitely the best one on that album. Well, let's find out what your actual number three is. Good choice, Jay. My actual number three is...

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Another 80s album.

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From the Years of Decay album by Overkill.

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I hate.

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What a great album.

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That is an awesome song.

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I love that song.

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You know what parts of the album I actually like the most?

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Is they get doomy.

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Yeah.

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Playing with spiders.

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The Years of Decay.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, definitely. That is by far my favorite Overkill album. Yeah. They got a record in the can, I think. Don't they have a new one coming out this year, by the way? I mean, they have one coming out every year, so. That's true. Good point. You can just say that one over. Andy. Number two. So we're at number two. Going with, keeping with the epic list. Going with a can't do this list without Manila Red. I'm going actually

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with like a weird later middle of the road,

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Manila road song,

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but I feel like it's crafted to be super epic.

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It's off the gates of steel or gates of fire album.

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Um,

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a riddle of steel,

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the first song off of it.

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It's about like the frost giants daughter,

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uh,

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that whole,

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uh,

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Conan.

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Uh,

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guys.

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Yes.

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Cheers.

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Cheers.

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Who is that fine looking? Is that? That's not your wife, is it? Hey, cheers y'all. Heavy metal. Real recognize real. Whatever the fuck. Let's party. I'm out. Damn, I don't have a shot. I don't think you got to say. Did you say the name of the song, Andy? I apologize if you did. Riddle of Steel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right off the Gates of Fire album.

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The Frost Giant's Daughter. It's like a three-hour. What is most important in this list? And to hear the lamentations of Andy's five-song list. To crush your enemies, see them dream before you. I really appreciate your two big polls of Slough Fagan and Manila Road, too. Oh, yeah. Wildly underrated bands. Manila Road, especially, is way more underrated than Slough Fag, so that was awesome. He thinks I'm Joy Love or Sword,

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and sorcery. Have you listened to Megaton Sword? Because I feel there's a lot of money. Yeah, I think it's a slow burn for me, but I do like what I've heard. I haven't re-listened to it, but man, there's such a wealth of sword and sorcery stuff nowadays. It's great. I'm loving the new resurgence of it, for sure. Did I ever tell you guys that at my office, in the parking lot, there's a jeep. It's a black jeep.

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And I don't know who owns it. And I wish I did. And written like along the side or somewhere on the Jeep, it says Riddle of Steel. And along the back, it says Krom. Wow. And I'm like, okay, obviously this person is cool. But I don't know who's, I need to like, if the world ever opens again, then this person is still there. I need to like sit in the car in the parking lot and just wait for this person to come out so that I can be like.

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I want so badly for it to be like a 70-year-old black woman. You know what I mean? Last person you would expect to get into that. Doesn't matter. To hell with them, George. Exactly. The singer from the band Valiant Thor lives in Richmond and is good buddies with us. And he owns a restaurant called Cobra Cabana and a pizza place, too, called Hot for Pizza that has the band on. Awesome. Did you just say Valiant Thor? Yeah.

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Oh, man. That is valiant himself. Uh, Herbie, his personal transportation is a, an old, like roll your own, like Bay area van that he bought secondhand. It has airbrushed for Zeta on all three sides. I saw them once. I think they opened for Mastodon and it's easily 40 plus years ago in the shows. It's in my top five greatest moments ever live. He introduced the song.

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And he said, this is not about getting screwed over once. And this is not about getting screwed over twice. It's about getting screwed over three times. This song's called Double Crossed. I literally shit myself in there. It was just the most awesome moment ever. And he had these amazing gyrations on stage. I was like, this is, it doesn't get any better than this. Yeah, he's great. Oh, I got TR. If you listen to this episode, he will literally lose his shit because he was

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with me at that show. We just literally looked at each other and just high-fived. It was just amazing. Metalheads but love. Metalheads but love. I love hearing that. That's great. Herbie rules, man. Herbie is one of the best frontmen of our generation. Oh, man. Like rock and roll. That dude, and honestly, my homie Andy, who's like two squares, blow me right now on the Zoom call. Those are my two frontmen. He has to sweat out at least five pounds of show easily.

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because he's just so much energy on stage it's unreal here's the thing it doesn't stop i've toured with that guy it doesn't stop it's not on stage that's backstage is going crazy every day man it's and it's awesome it's and it's not like it's not like some like theater kid where you're like dude turn it off yeah just like entertaining oh that's awesome all day i just made my night that's fucking great cool is the underground medals david lee ross

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I bet he can sing though

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yeah yeah fair enough

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does anybody remember where the hell we are here

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did you wanna go

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I got so for my

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my like

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everything's fucked 2021

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COVID playlist

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I got Grim Reaper

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lust for freedom

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love Grim Reaper

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I am just

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I don't know about you guys

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Like some of my homies are hermits. I'm not. I'm like a I want to be out there with the boys kind of guy. I am like dying here. Yeah. Around the house all day. I got a lust for freedom, man. I want to be out there doing it. I want to be going to shows. And I and I as we were talking about like earlier in the show trying to be very respectful of not spreading this weird virus around the community. I'm not trying to kill anyone.

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It's parents, my accent, but I got a lust for freedom. I ain't gonna lie. I want it, dude. I'm dying. I'm scraping at the walls. I want to get out there. That's cool. Well, I'll see you in hell there, Jonah. Yeah, I got to put some Grim Reaper on my phone tomorrow, man. Me and you, we'll sneak out to those new metal shows going out in the counties, and then when we all get COVID and whatever, I'll see you in hell, my friend. Fear no evil, man. Awesome. Grim Reaper. Yeah, I actually, I've been listening,

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I have a friend who owns a record store, but he also does a DJ night. He played a few of the Grim Reaper songs. I haven't listened to this in a while. They don't have bad records. They don't. It's all fun. Steve Grimmett played in Richmond a few years ago. It was Steve Grimmett's Grim Reaper. It's like you walk in a guitar center and you're like,

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Yeah.

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He's in the drum department. The guy who looks like a pilot. And his band was like maybe one dude his age and then like a couple just randos and they fucking slayed. And there was like 30 people there and his voice was on point. It was so good. I couldn't, I couldn't like, you know, like Death Fest or all these big festivals, they try and bring in bands.

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like people love but never get to see. I wish I could convince every festival on earth to book Steve Grimmett with any four dudes. It doesn't. He's so good. His voice, the charisma, the presence, even in a shitty bar in Richmond, Virginia with 30 people. He crushed it, man. Yeah. Well, he's in trouble now. He lost his foot or feet recently. Whatever. And, and,

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And a really quick funny story about that show was they did their whole set and it kicked ass and his pipes were amazing. And then towards the end, maybe third to last song, he goes, this is maybe a month or two after Lemmy passed away. He's like, as many of you know, we all lost a tremendous hit to the metal scene. We lost a true hero recently. It's going to be very difficult to ever live without this person.

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And then they started kicking into a song and it was like a little out of tune. And they kicked into Don't Talk to Strangers by Dio. It's like Dio had died like four years ago. I was like, what? I was like, totally like the whole crowd was like, what? Oh, yeah, it sucks that Dio's gone too. Don't Talk to Strangers. You're like, oh, what song does everyone know? All right, that's our tribute tonight. All right, cool. Don't Talk to Strangers.

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It's funny after you say that about Grim Reaper

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because I own one Grim Reaper

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Kate Creeper?

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One, yeah, cassette tape

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and it was the Rocky to Hell

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and Lust for Freedom is on it

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I just had to look it up

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and I'm like, I know I had a Grim Reaper

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cassette tape and I was like, I remember it was

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Rocky to Hell and I looked it up and I'm like, oh yeah, Lust for Freedom

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I had the first three

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I think they have a greatest hit

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It's album. So that's really what you need. They're one of those bands. It's all it's all grace hits. They have good songs. They just have good songs. Suck it and see, man. Suck it and see. That's right. Nice. Markisan, we're up to you. Yeah. Number two for me. And this one is for my friend, John. Mostly. Mostly. It is Blackwater Park by Opeth. Oh, awesome.

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Park album in 2001. This is one of my all-time favorite Opeth songs, if not my favorite. I think this track highlights the absolute height of Opeth's powers. I mean, I like the band through all their different incarnations, you know, all their albums, but I just don't think the band gets any better than this song for me. So, love it. That's a great song. Well done.

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Matt. Continuing with my nothingness,

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I'm going to play a song called Daughter of Endless Light by the band Ars Magna Umbre,

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off their 2018 album Lunar Ascension.

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This would be the first... He makes his shit up.

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Exactly.

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I don't know any of these fucking bands.

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Polish one-person atmospherical black metal project.

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A more black and aggressive version of Bluto Snored,

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but less melodic.

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You'll see a lot of Bluto Snored in my life, apparently.

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Your show should be called Songs That Don't Exist. Right. By Bluto Snort. What I love about your look right now, Matt, is you kind of look like a nun. Yeah, you do. Really? You look like you have a habit. Like a Romanian nun. I'm a cold nun. She's in Minnesota. It's cold there, eh? It's cold in the basement. Did you fucking see how fucking cold it was? Eric posted that picture on Facebook the other day. It was minus 55.

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And that was without the wind chill. It was fucking cold up here, huh? Yeah. I don't have a snuggie. It's fucking cold. It's finished. Looks good. Where are we here? My turn. All right. So my number two on this, but my number four on my list. I could not do this without having my favorite singer on here. I know George and

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Marcus, I will appreciate this because. Oh, thanks so much, dude. My second favorite singer of all time. I wouldn't call myself a fanboy, but I've been a fan since I first heard her back in the 90s. Just couldn't have a. I watched videos all last night. The song is called Strange Machines from the Gathering.

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It's probably my second favorite album of all time. Mandoline, Mandolin, whatever. I was waiting for Markisan to correct me there. I say Mandelian. It sounds nicer. It's pronounced by everyone different. Anything by Annika. It's an amazing album and it's a great classic song I think to put on my list following.

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A Killer Ending from Elephant Graveyard by Cobalt is that intro to Strange Machines with the guitar and then the kind of sounds like the bell is being rung there at the beginning and it just kicks in and it's a Doomy song. It's a gothic song, but her vocals just soar. And it's the first song everybody heard from her. And her solo, new solo album drops like next week, right? Next week is like, there's like 900 albums coming out on the 26th. It's insane.

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How many albums are coming out? George, can you make me a playlist, please? I mean, you know how much I love The Gathering, John. It's not on my top five, but I considered The Gathering's In Motion number two for Mandillion. Yeah. For my list, because it is the closing song on that album. But fucking awesome. Yeah. Will. Are we on number two? No. That's just his style. Like a bassist. Yeah, it's too bad.

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My number two. When victory is to survive and death is defeat. One of my favorite songs, if not my favorite song ever penned by heavy metal band, War Ensemble by Slayer. It encapsulates my persona, history, warfare.

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Slayer.

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Yeah.

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War Ensemble.

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Joyce, go.

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Yeah.

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Well, I'm not going to drag my feet here.

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This is probably the second closest thing to extreme metal I have on, though it isn't that, but it would have been somewhat back in the day.

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It isn't now.

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Comes from one of my favorite records of all time.

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It's a great opener.

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And even though I went with an 80s priest song, this band, if you really know this band, you know they're 70s priest worshippers.

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So I have chosen the first track off of Melissa by merciful fate and it's called evil. You can't go wrong with evil dude and it's one of those ones that again if you're driving down the road and you're not into this then trust me dude just get away as far away from any heavy metal station if you can because you're not going to like the rest of it. Yeah. Wait that is that your favorite album Jay I can't remember. I think it's my favorite. I would call it my favorite metal album of all time. Right. Yeah.

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And that rarely wipers. That's the one. But, you know, there's a lot of records on that shelf. So. True. Georgie. All right. For my next two, we are going north of the border. I don't know why I'm sounding Irish, but we're going north of the border. We're up to Canada. It's all about. It's all about. Exactly. You know where we're going. It's the rush and blast. Not yet. But number two.

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From Triumph, LA. Damn, how did you know, dude? Say goodbye. Annihilator, Alison Hellman. The album is 5. Grey Skies and Electric Light. The song is Traveling Alone by Woods of Vipre. This is the one with Sean Connery singing?

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I've got you in my sights. We need the dog in the air. You can be only one. And that is Captain Zeta Jones. Oh, that was good. Captain Zeta Jones. Hold on. Andy's just did a typo negative. Yeah, it's like a Scottish Irish typo. They're from Ontario, Canada, right?

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Yeah, like block, block, block, number one. That's brilliant, dude. Uh-oh, this is it, number one. Number one! Epic playlist here. I've got to top it with my all-time favorite epic vibe song. I hope you guys are all fans and familiar with Summoning. Yep.

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Super Duo from their, I guess, their most important album to me, Let Moral Heroes Sing of Your Fame. I would pick the third track, In the Hollows Beneath the Hells, the Kells. I can't remember the name of what the hollows are beneath all of it. But it's the one with Gandalf basically being like, In the Darkness, find them. And yeah, it's an awesome song. If you've slept on that record, don't sleep any longer.

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because you're still asleep and you've never woken up from... That's definitely sword and sorcery for you. Anything summoning, yeah. You shall not pass! I just watched Lord of the Rings. I did an epic watch of all the extended versions in one day with my wife and her friend. That was really fun. Marathon, dude. Because it's like 12 hours of Lord of the Rings. I tried to do that one.

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The Hallows are beneath.

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Of course.

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I did breakfast and second breakfast.

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For that epic day.

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I didn't even know about second breakfast.

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Alright.

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The best breakfast.

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Alright.

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So I was told I got some honorable mentions.

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Yeah.

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Number one.

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I got like a couple more or less for my like, uh, COVID don't roll your eyes at me. My like one, everything's fucked. 2021, whatever. All right. My number one, iron maiden evil that men do. Yes. Everything's fucked. It's our fault. I'm just throwing that out there. That's my number one. I love that song. I'm going to keep it short. I got a couple honorable mentions.

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I wanted to throw in discharge, the possibility of life's destruction. Very relevant. The slamming of a door. You know what I mean? Also, Nazem tested. However, it gets tested as often as possible. Nazem rules. Get a vaccine. I need to correct you there. Nazem ruled. Yeah. I mean, I saw them. Just kidding. I mean, I saw them.

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NOSAZM ruled, Discharge ruled, Iron Maiden rules. I hope as a species we continue to be super sick. If we don't anymore, it is what it is. That's my radio show. Wow. I'll pass it off. All right, Markisan. Yeah, my number one is

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Like my shirt says, Chemist. And it is Hunted from the album Hunted in 2016. Chemist continues to be my favorite metal band. And this is my favorite song. All due respect to Will, this is the Spear song. I've played it hundreds of times. I love the way it's constructed. The ebbs, the flows, the solos. And that last seven minutes always gets me right in the feels with that instrumental.

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break that builds into the mammoth guitar wave just before Phil starts singing that haunted emotional finale. I see him. He comes forth from darkness. He takes form, et cetera, et cetera. So when I think of great last songs, I always think of this one. This is the one that comes to mind and probably the final song and album that I've played the most. So it's pretty cool.

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I'm really excited about the new chemist album coming out. So I'm starting to spin all their stuff. You know, speaking of great last songs, I've always thought it would be funny if so-and-so's unfinished symphony, whoever it was, just a briefly stop, like halfway through it. But, you know. Well, you know, I was talking with Yanni, formerly of Perihelion Chip the other day, as John is aware, because he's on that conversation. And I link up to like 900 messages.

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Yeah, Yanni lives in Finland. And we were talking about classical music because Yanni is a keyboard player. And he was talking about how nobody writes a 10th symphony. It's like after nine, everybody dies. Fair enough. And I guess it was, I was like, huh? And so it's like the 27. 27. I was just going to say that. Yeah. Yeah.

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Exactly. So don't write a 10th symphony if you want to live. No, no, no, no, George. Don't write a 9th symphony. Fair enough. Fair enough. I'm done. Matt. All righty. My number one from the band Cosmo Gear. The song The Wayne from their 2018 album Everton Eve Eternity. It's a dude from Shanghai and a dude from Prague kicking out some black metal. Solid atmosphere.

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Black Metal, Good Melodies and Spacey, while still paying homage to traditional Black Metal. And then I would close out my radio show with about 26 minutes of Kenny G. Just rocking out some really smooth saxophone. Hey, you gotta pay the bill somehow, right? You're damn right. Make sure you're in an elevator when you listen to the last of Matt's show. Supreme. Matt clearly has not thought about getting advertised.

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on his radio show. No, no, no. This is just the microphone plugged into nothing. This is, I'm paying for this with my kids' college money. So. This is Matt in a dark closet somewhere saying, you're going to love this one. This is my children getting student loans for college because the money, the well ran dry. That's right. Big John. So, Matt, we're going to need not only all the names spelled out and the songs you picked, but links so we can actually listen to these songs so we know they're real. So.

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So my last song, which is our number one on this list, but it's my final song on my playlist, has to be a killer closer, has to have something that gives you a reason to close it. And this song, it's long, it's 13 minutes, has an amazing intro. It's got a four minute closing outro that's just unbelievable. And it's even better live. But if you've ever done a live radio show,

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before, you know that you need a long song for a reason in your playlist. You're going to have to take a leak at some point and you've got to get away. And the only way to do it is to have a long song in your playlist. And so that's what I did here. So it's not Blackwater Park like Markisan pick, but I took a song I think is a little bit better just because the outro is outstanding. And that is deliverance off of the album Deliverance by O.

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You know, John, what I love about that, and I've shared this before, which was I think Steeler is the, which was on my list, is the weird prototype for Deliverance with that outro. Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, very different, obviously, but I've always held those two tracks kind of strangely in my mind at the same time. And it's one of the greatest endings of all time, by the way, just that fucking riff is just sick. Yeah, and if you're a fan of Opeth, and if you've seen them a lot like I have, I've seen them more than my fair share.

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After a while you're like, oh fuck, I don't need to hear this again. And then it starts and you're like, okay, I'm in for the next 13 minutes, you know, so it's one of those songs. Opeth is the only band besides Neurosis that I will give like 10 minutes of my time to. And if you have a radio show and you need to take a shit, then you play Black Rose Immortal. Well, I don't know. I might want to sit through that song and then play Deliverance after that and take the shit then. So, cause I love Black Rose Immortal. Yeah. The only problem with that though, uh,

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is as much as I love neurosis, we're going to need more than 10 minutes to finish those songs because those are some long songs. They're so good. They're so damn good. It's unreal. I love neurosis. Willem. Something keeps happening. I keep losing. There we go. Okay. I keep going into the chat. I'm surprised.

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I'm surprised this has not been mentioned before. I went with, if I'm going to have a heavy metal radio show, I need to educate the audience to the origins of heavy metal. And as my kids like to say, it's really weird that there's a song Black Sabbath on an album Black Sabbath by a band named Black Sabbath. So Black Sabbath, that is the song that I'm going to either open. I don't know if it should be like open,

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or clothes, but because George likes listening, he has OCD and has to be ordered in number. You know, Black Sabbath. If I could do it, the opening and the closet. It's the only song that could be played at the beginning and the end. There you go. So I would intro this by saying this is what started it all. That is fair. I had meant to say earlier, Will, when you talked about your daughter's Pavlovian,

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response to some music you play and I can't remember what the Pavlovian response was but it reminded me of a meme and the meme was simply that and then the meme said something like this it gives me great satisfaction to think that every time Pavlov heard the bell ring he thought about feeding his dogs so there you go um no no there's definitely a little uh I understand what you're saying there's definitely a little bit of me pushing it on my kids but no no no my daughter my daughter is way more

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I'm more susceptible than my son. My son is like, whatever. Yeah, he's more into sports and Legos. And I can tell you, Will, I want your show to open with that song because then it opens with a bell and a thunderstorm. That's like the thing that happens before the scary one starts. Well, it's the rain at the beginning and you know what's coming. That's the beauty of it. I mean, I want Will's radio show to open with a chainsaw. Shaving a taint. Someday I'm going to fire, fire,

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I was thinking

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Enter Sam and I would be a great way for Will's show to start.

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My number one is

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ironically has been mentioned now by someone else but not in context

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of their list but still it's just one of those things that I think if you hear it

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could you bring it to the right side of the fence and it is a song that apparently Grim Reaper thinks Lemmy wrote

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It's Don't Talk to Strangers by Dio. Wow. Good song. Nice. Because they'll only bring you down. I mean, don't smell the flowers. They're an evil drug. That's so fucking good, dude. To make you lose your mind. Well, don't fucking smell poppies, man. How good are those lyrics? Jesus. I think that was literally the last song I heard on the radio when I was driving my car, Don't Talk to Strangers. Is that true? Yeah.

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You're going to say holy die right today. Were you listening to my show? Well done, Jay. Well done. George. Jorge. So cue the crickets. I'm sure probably nobody has heard this song. I mean, it's possible. So from the

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COVID-released four-song EP, Insula. This is the final track, which will fit in with Markisans list, by Thrasenblatt, called Heave the Oars. This is the only song on this list, by the way, that is actually positive. So at least you're ending on a high note, then. That's good. Exactly, exactly. Bring everybody down, and then inspire

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them. Which, by the way,

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Don't Talk to Strangers would go on your list as well.

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Nicely Mark the Song. That's an epic album closer.

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That's true.

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Yeah.

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Well, before I decided...

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No, wait.

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That album was Shame on the Night.

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I'm sorry.

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That's the end of side one.

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Shame on you, Jay.

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I know.

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Shame on the Jay.

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If I hadn't done songs from 2000 on,

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I definitely would have had D.U.S. songs on there.

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Yeah, but you were fucked.

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I thought about it.

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And then it just would have been,

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how would be thy name?

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And, uh,

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right.

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That's why I did it.

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Yeah.

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But I also considered black Sabbath.

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Lonely is the word,

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which is the name of your,

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uh,

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feature that you did.

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And also a good show.

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It's a fucking awesome closing track on heaven and hell.

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So isn't it just,

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uh,

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I mean,

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it's Dio singing his heart off for half the album.

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And then it's just a fucking solo for the other half of the album.

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It's great.

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I think I'm just going to put that on.

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When I get off this. You should man. It's fucking awesome. All right. Well, we are now officially in the homestretch. We do have to do our albums of the episode. So we're going to go back to Andy and be like, what's, you know, of what's been mentioned so far. What's your favorite album of this episode? I got to be honest. This is not been mentioned this episode, but the one album I've been thinking about,

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the whole time that we've been talking is pretty much just the Danny Elfman soundtrack to Pee-wee's Big Adventure. That's my favorite movie and I think about it pretty frequently but it's a good thing that that's what I'm thinking about. That's like I hope that you guys understand that I've really had a great time and thanks for having me on here.

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I'd say that I can't stop thinking about that.

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Yeah, I have to tell you something. It's a weird thing, but that happens to almost all of our guests when we're done. They're like, you know, I've been thinking of the Pee Wee Herman soundtrack ever since we started today.

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It's the subliminal messaging that we use in the Zoom video.

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You know, the one thing that we have not surprisingly mentioned is, and George, maybe George or Jonah, you want to talk about this, is how we link

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up. Aside from the fact that I sort of know you guys from playing the Atlas, but how did we link up to do this podcast? Grindr? Okay, so I didn't realize that you were part of this podcast, honestly, until I logged on tonight and saw your face. Somebody I know. But I, like I subscribed to Decibel and I just flipped through it.

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And I, when our record came out, I just started hitting up the ad. Like, there's a couple podcasts that had ads in Decibel. And I hit up yours. I hit up a couple, but yours is one of them. And George was like, yeah, I've heard. I just wrote. I was like, hey, I'm in a band. We have a new record out. I just want to get in touch. And I think George wrote back and was like, hey, I've heard of your band. Maybe, like, someday we can make something happen.

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And then at some point he was like, how about next episode? But I didn't realize that me and you knew each other. I didn't put it together. You didn't realize I knew cool people. Well, I mean, obviously. I didn't realize that I'd make six of the best friends I'd ever make in my life. Hey. Jay's line every episode. Yeah, I realize you're joking and all, but that's how this podcast came around.

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And that's what we are now.

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We put an advertisement in Decibel for the first time ever, even though every single one of us subscribes at Decibel.

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We talk about Decibel.

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We know the guys in Decibel.

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But we actually put an advertisement in there.

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And then, like, we had somebody actually hit us up like, hey, can we come on?

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It was kind of like, cool.

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Can I also point out that even though I know this says a lot about all of us, I didn't know you knew cool people either, George.

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Yeah.

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Present company excluded.

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No, it is funny. I mean, I've been a Decibel subscriber on and off for like a decade or so, you know, here and there. And I and at the beginning of COVID towards there, I was like, like, I lost my job. I'm sitting around the house all the time and I'm bumming out. My lady was like, she's she subscribed to Decibel like, hey,

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Here's like a little something that'll like maybe make your days a little better. Yeah. You know, and I'm like, Oh, you know, she's incredible. And I'm like, looking through it and I'm like, okay, I got a new record coming out. Like what's, what's, what's hip, what's new in this metal scene. And I saw your ad, which is funny. Cause I, you know, I'm not like a huge podcast kind of guy all day, but I don't listen to podcasts much, but I saw that and I was like, Oh, maybe I'll hit these guys up. And it just turns out there's already a connection between

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Yeah, very cool.

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Cool.

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It's really cool.

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Yeah, I'm a subscriber too, and this is really cool to have it full circle like you guys are talking about.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I also can't shake the feeling that Will, I don't know if it's you or somebody that looked like you, but did you used to go to all the Maryland Death Fests?

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And I feel like you threw me up in the crowd at my behest for crowd surfing like 10 years ago a couple times.

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I used to just get super annihilated at death fest and I would be like, Oh, slowly we rot. And you'd be, I just remember like you being like, yeah. Did you toss me? Well, if it was obituary, I'm sure it was. Well, it might've been, I don't know. It might be this dude named Joe from Philly though. I don't know. I only toss you up. I don't toss you off. All right. That's cool. That's, you know, in the, in the enslaved documentary, they tell a similar story.

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I was just thinking that Jay. Yeah. Where Ivar was it I think Grudel as I call him jumped on Ivar didn't you know was it vice versa. Yeah. And then they met again a few years later he's like hey aren't you that dude I jumped on? Jonah what's your album of the episode? I guess I'm going to shout I want to shout out that Hell Ripper record one more time. Like a current man and obviously I want to shout out like a current band with a record out.

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The Affair of the Poisons. I think that's his newest one. But all the Hell Ripper records are good. If you're into like Venom and Midnight and early Metallica, any of that stuff, Hell Ripper. That's my one. All right. Markisan, what's your album? Yeah, for my album of the episode, I like to pick something new over something old because, I mean, there's some classic albums we've been talking about.

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So I'm going to go with Sea Sleeper, Nostophobia. I think this is probably my most spun record of the new year so far. Just a phenomenal high-energy debut that mixes genres in a really cohesive, just memorable way. Yeah, just one of my favorite spins of 2021 so far. Okay. Matt? Should come as no surprise. My album of the episode is Turbo by Juice Priest. Yes!

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I'm kidding. I'm kidding. It's painkiller. If you haven't listened to painkiller in a while, get out and listen to that shit. But after that, listen to turbo. Is it good? It's doable. Can I party to it? Yeah, you can party to it. Yeah, I think you can party to anything. Can I stop partying ever after it? You're getting into the weeds there, but let's just say yes, question mark.

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With enough beer. Uh, Marcus, son, what's your album in the episode? He just did it. It's John. Do yours again. John. Sorry. The guy who hasn't had any beer. Yeah. I'm about to. Yeah. Well, so you're going to get more sober. All right. Uh, it should be no secret, uh, to use Matt's words. Uh, from this episode, I've talked about one album the most.

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I've spun the most this year. That's Colt of Luna, The Raging River. EP slash it really is an LP. That's really the EP of the episode. I don't think we need to say it's an EP anymore. It's a full length, John. Yeah, that's mine. It's the one I've listened to the most this year so far. Will? Mine is a band called Deception. They have an album out called Epidemic. This reminds me

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me quite a bit of bloodbath and the vocals and in some of the riffage it gets a little bit more melodic in places gets a little bit more weird where bloodbath is a little bit more straightforward but um this this is some pretty good catchy hooky like very well sung death metal deception epidemic check it out i listened to that well but i don't i think they have a newer one out though oh they might i

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I didn't say this is the newest thing. Oh yeah. I think they have a new one that came out this year and I listened to both of them and they were really good. So thanks for the recommendation. All right. So mine is again and again, I'm a man alone on this. This is the hill I'll die on by myself and that's okay. But it's the Michael Shanker record that I am enjoying so much. But I also want to point out how ridiculous these covers are. If you look, this is a painting and he's got two pairs of sunglasses on his head. This is just the weirdest fucking covers on these albums. But I love it. Well, you know, he, he knew that at some point,

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in the future, people should be wearing not one, but two things on their face. They could have fixed that. He was just a little off on what it was. Yeah. In any case, the album is called Immortal, Michael Schenker. And it's actually a Michael Schenker group album, which has a close to Fest. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Which is the first Michael Schenker group album in a while. All right. My album of the episode, I'm going to go with Stonehealer's Conquistador. It's not out yet, but.

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It is definitely making an impression on me. So. Hey, hey, Markisan. Yeah, you are 1 million percent right. The album came out in 2019. Yeah, I just want to make you aware because the my I think it's called the Meyer. Yeah, the Meyer in like this February, I think. So, you know, it's eligible for your list. It's pretty good. It's great. All right. I think it's better than the last one that you recommended, actually. So before we wrap it up here, which I think we're about.

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I just say thanks for the tip.

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Well, I got the tip.

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We wanted to, Andy and Jonah, it would be cool if you guys mentioned the other projects that you are involved in so that people know in full and complete who you are.

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Totally.

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Yeah, so I can't verify whether I'm affiliated with it or not, but I do know a gentleman that looks a lot like me that's in a new death metal band called Cross Spitter.

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And they have a demo tape out, crossbitter, dry and grinding mouth demo tape, sold out. They also got a 7-inch vase with a leather cover, sold out. I'm in a band, there's still limited copies, but I've been in a band for about 18 years, more like black thrash type of band called Battlematch.

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We have an LP out now. There's just a couple copies left. It came out in the midst of the pandemic, maybe like June or July. It's called Ghastly Graven and Grimoireless. And yeah, those both active projects. There's going to be more from both of them. Sweet. Both on Bandcamp? Are they both on Bandcamp? They are, yes. You can get both of those things on there and listen to it for free for sure. Cool. Joe, any other names you want to drop?

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is a great name.

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I think I played a,

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uh,

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like a board game called battle master.

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There was one called masters.

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That's a,

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like a tabletop miniatures game,

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like a predecessor to war hammer fantasy.

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Yeah.

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It's a good name too.

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Just to take my,

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my like five minutes here.

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I just will double up and confirm that battle master is like in,

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in like my mind,

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I said earlier,

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Virginia has the best metal scene in America.

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Battlemaster is the best unknown metal band in America. I will stand by that. That is true. Check their records out. I swear to God it's a crime how underrated Andy's other band is. Battlemaster, that's a shit. I'll look at it now and one of the songs is called Chaotic Dwarven Mischivism. Sold. It's fucked up how good they are. And I can say this because Andy is the singer and who cares. Their guitar playing is

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out of control good it is so good their drummer tomlin he's been in a million bands y'all have heard

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probably but battle master is his main band they're so sick it's just if you like black and thrash

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that's the fucking band you have not heard they're so that's the band you have to make up to impress your friends

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that's my preferred form of thrash black and thank you so much jona and we do we have a we're just

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Finishing Up Mixing and Mastering a New Record, too. So there's going to be another full length on the horizon. Awesome. That's the shit. If I'm going to plug anything, my wife, her name is Ellie Jo Gill. She's been doing art for Battlemaster. She's been doing art for a bunch of other bands. She's an incredible visual artist. She's a tattooer, but she also does a lot of metal band art and whatever. She's killing it.

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And I've been composing a lot of music that's like kind of nor here nor there. Some of it's kind of electronic. Some of it's kind of like soundtracky. And that's going to be I have like a band camp I'm working on right now. And that's just going to be my full name, Jonah Livingston on band camp. I have some basic stuff on there now, but soon I'm going to update it with some like actual shit that I'm going to do.

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I approve of. Cool. Pandemic life. You know what I mean? You're all sitting around. You're trying to make music. Dude, your wife's stuff is bad ass, dude. Yeah, the Battlemaster cover is awesome. Is that watercolors? I'm at unkindnessart.com. She's an unbelievable tattoo artist. I mean, her watercolor paintings are unbelievable. And she translates that to skin in an amazing way.

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She's just super talented in both those aspects. Jonah's electronic music is super top-notch too. Think like Freaky Sex Vampire Party, and then you're almost there. And yeah, certainly check that stuff out. Check out Ellie's Art. Also, I do a radio show in Richmond. If you're in Richmond, it's 103.3 FM. Otherwise, you can stream it on bridge103.org. And it's my radio show.

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If you're familiar with Garrison Keillor

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and a Prairie Home Companion, mine's

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DJ Die Hard and a Buried Chrome Companion.

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That airs every Friday night

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Eastern Time. It's 10pm

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to midnight and I do

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just different thematic

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metal and punk shows. It's about two hours

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of me just DJing records and yelling

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at you.

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Can I assume it's the exact opposite of Garrison

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Keillor?

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Yeah, there's no Lake Wobegon. It's more just playing different stuff that I love, but also trying to give a nod to all the people that have passed away, like Mark the Shark and different, you know, Dio, Lemmy, friends of ours that have passed away. And also just like, but in a positive light, it's not a morning show. It's a live action. You know, I'm screaming at you the whole fucking time. You're having a really good time when you listen to it.

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And also shout out to George for trying to slip in Will's

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woe to you of earth and sea when you said woe be gone. Nicely done, George. Didn't quite sneak it in, but that was a good call there.

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Because we're going to have to do that every time we hear woe in a word now, so god damn it.

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And where can people go pick up Loud Night stuff?

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You can get it from us at loudnight.com.

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The streets! Yeah, the streets! Any protests, we pretty much protest everything, so if anybody's protesting something, we'll be there unless it's stupid, and then we won't be there. And strangely, any Greyhound bus station has them, so that would be nice. Yeah, you can get them in most restrooms. Unattended restrooms. Perfect. Yeah, you can just write us, and we'll fix you up. Otherwise, Bandcamp and loudnight.com.

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Conflict has put out the vinyl. They're out right now, but there should be another pressing. And if you're fortunate enough to live in Europe right now, we're going to have a European pressing of the CD and the vinyl coming out shortly. Nice. They're cool, guys. Yeah. Well, you guys are two fucking... You guys are princes. We loved having you, man. You're fucking great. Two princes after the Spin Doctor song. I was just going to say there's two princes here before us.

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It's back on.

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Thanks for having us, guys. Really appreciate it.

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Yeah, thanks for getting a hold of us.

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Thank you, guys. It's been fun.

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We'll be open at some point, and you guys are welcome.

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Yeah. Thank you so much.

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We'll talk to you soon, I hope.

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Yeah, absolutely, guys.

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Take care, brothers.

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All right.

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All right, guys.

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Later.

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We'll see you next time.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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Peace.

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BIRD!

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Hey, two hours in about to the new Metalhead podcast, and I still don't know if you guys are wearing shirts. I don't know what the fuck is going on, but I need t-shirt talk to happen at the beginning of the episode.

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SIR, YES SIR!