WEBVTT 00:00:00.020 --> 00:00:01.660 METALHEAD PODCAST 00:00:02.080 --> 00:00:03.980 METALHEAD PODCAST 00:00:04.920 --> 00:00:05.140 GO! 00:00:26.020 --> 00:00:27.860 You must listen. 00:00:28.840 --> 00:00:30.080 You must listen. 00:00:31.240 --> 00:00:32.480 You must listen. 00:00:36.340 --> 00:00:38.660 Now, here is the podcast. 00:00:38.970 --> 00:00:40.440 Metal Heads Podcast Go. 00:00:41.020 --> 00:00:42.460 Hello and welcome to the Metal Heads Podcast. 00:00:42.740 --> 00:00:43.420 My name is George. 00:00:44.900 --> 00:00:45.600 This is Jay. 00:00:46.020 --> 00:00:46.460 This is Will. 00:00:47.080 --> 00:00:47.760 This is John. 00:00:48.440 --> 00:00:48.960 This is Matt. 00:00:49.700 --> 00:00:51.220 This is Markisan. 00:00:51.450 --> 00:00:54.560 And we are joined today by Stacy Ciccone. 00:00:55.260 --> 00:00:55.720 How are you? 00:00:55.800 --> 00:01:25.660 Chikoni. I'm great. How are you? Did I say it wrong again? No, it's whatever. Most people don't get it right. I'm a little pissed I even changed my name. Not that anyone was able to get my name right either. I thought it was Coney, like Coney Island. Chikoni. What's the maiden name? Devoni. Shut up. You rhymer. That's why I didn't hyphenate either. Oh, you should have hyphenated. Julia Guglia. Chikoni, you like a lot of baloney? 00:01:29.479 --> 00:01:54.880 Devoni Baloney. That was like a thing in grade school. Yes. Also, Spacey Stacey. Like bringing back some like old wounds. Well, that's where we like to start. We just stick it in, twist it around and see what happens. It doesn't work. 50% of the time. It's okay. What's the? 00:01:55.820 --> 00:02:24.960 in the tone. What's that Will Ferrell movie, Anchorman? There's a line in that which is 50% of the time. It's effective 100%. It was the cologne. Made with real bits of panther. Yeah, the cologne, the panther. Sex panther. Oh, dear. Brian, that smells like pure gasoline. Man, we were talking about that movie the other day, and the only line besides that that I can remember is, I'm riding a furry tractor at the end. I have a friend who I like to. 00:02:29.739 --> 00:02:55.680 One of mine favorites is the human torch was denied a bank loan. He's like warming up his mouth or whatever. The arsonist has oddly shaped feet. I love lamp. Anyway, why is Stacy here? Yeah, well, we got wildly as you know, it's like as soon as we walked in the door, we just went off on a tangent. So we've got to put something on. 00:02:55.820 --> 00:02:56.340 the show now. 00:02:57.200 --> 00:02:57.720 So, 00:02:58.520 --> 00:02:58.820 so we, 00:02:58.960 --> 00:02:59.720 you a girl. 00:03:01.620 --> 00:03:01.720 Yeah. 00:03:02.420 --> 00:03:04.120 A rarity on this show. 00:03:04.900 --> 00:03:06.700 So we met through our mutual friend, 00:03:06.830 --> 00:03:09.740 Steve McDowell of the dead letter emissions podcast, 00:03:10.420 --> 00:03:14.460 who Markisan has been frequent frequenting quite a bit. 00:03:14.630 --> 00:03:16.900 These past few days week. 00:03:17.820 --> 00:03:18.100 Um, 00:03:18.470 --> 00:03:19.100 I did too. 00:03:19.480 --> 00:03:19.560 Yeah. 00:03:19.860 --> 00:03:19.940 Yeah. 00:03:19.940 --> 00:03:21.140 You were with him last night. 00:03:22.260 --> 00:03:22.360 So, 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:23.160 um, 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:23.520 anyway, 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:23.900 we got, 00:03:24.050 --> 00:03:24.180 uh, 00:03:24.460 --> 00:03:25.180 talking and, 00:03:25.220 --> 00:03:50.220 And trading brand, brand, band recommendations. As strong as this fucking thing. Which is really hard to do because I feel like George knows everything. I was like really digging. He does. He gets it all from Matt. Matt tells him everything. He just repeats it. Yeah. Well, anyway, we thought it would be fun to have her on. And here you are, finally. Been talking about it for around a month or two. Yeah. 00:03:55.200 --> 00:04:20.640 how the pandemic has affected our guests. And I know it has certainly not been a fun time for you. How's all that been going? Man, it fucking sucks. It took everything that I have that I use to sort of cope with my normal neuroses when like we're not in a fucking pandemic. Took all of that. So trying to figure out how to like not jump off a building. 00:04:25.220 --> 00:04:54.740 I have two children who are younger. And thank fucking God that they get along because like I don't want to play with them. How old are they? They're five and seven. They'll be they have birthdays this summer. So well your profession if you don't mind sharing your profession would have been affected heavily I feel sure. Yeah yeah I've spent the whole year normally I'd be in front of students like in a classroom. 00:04:55.200 --> 00:05:25.180 Teaching Digital Arts, like, and now I am, like, on, we use Google Meets all day, and, you know, I look at a screen full of little initial icons because I don't make them turn on their cameras. I feel like it's really invasive. You gotta make sure those little fuckers are paying attention. You know, I teach high school. Like, if they can't get themselves there, like, then they have 00:05:25.200 --> 00:05:53.680 So much shit going on. I don't want to make this like sad story time, but it's, it's, it's a lot of like secondhand trauma. I don't really fucked up shit every day. It's like a really fucked up story. And it's hard to separate myself from that. Even when, like when we're in the building and I can leave work, right? Like it's hard not to take those things with me, but it's like in my kitchen now. Hey, for what it's worth, we wouldn't turn our cameras on if George didn't make us. 00:05:55.420 --> 00:06:24.360 God knows what you would be doing if I didn't make you. I saw that George put all of the podcasts on YouTube and I was like, fuck, I got to wear makeup. It took me like an hour to do this eyeliner. I don't think I've worn makeup in a year. It was really tough. Yeah, they are just audio. Okay. I saw that, but you said you're like, yes, yes, we did talk about that. I have the video. Well, I have to say this. 00:06:24.420 --> 00:06:54.240 At least George warned you. I didn't find out until after the fact when I did the year-end podcast. Then I went on the Dead Letters of Mission podcast. And then I'm like, wait, you posted the video online? And I watched it. I was like, oh my God. And how long does your makeup take? Like a long time, I know. Look at me. I mean, the wrinkles. Yeah, and an elaborate system of tresses. Yeah, great looking gray or just for men. What do you call it? I don't know. 00:06:55.500 --> 00:07:23.920 I'm using the vanity filter. I don't know if you guys know that that's a thing, but. I discovered that last time and it turned out mine was on. So I learned about it at some point. Okay. I'm checking that out. Did it make you look like George Clooney, George? Almost. You know, I mean, I mean, I'm pretty close already. Don't, wouldn't you say? Wouldn't you say? Oh, that's 50% right there. Choose video filter. We're all trying to make ourselves look better now. Do you want a tutorial? Can you give me a tutorial on how to turn on? Yeah. 00:07:25.100 --> 00:07:26.800 No, I'm not on the clock. 00:07:26.900 --> 00:07:27.740 Fouse Noir. 00:07:29.640 --> 00:07:31.580 Welcome to the Glam Metal Podcast. 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:33.880 Yeah, usually we just play with the filters. 00:07:34.840 --> 00:07:36.180 So you came to talk about metal. 00:07:36.640 --> 00:07:36.840 I did. 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:38.640 So talk about metal. 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:40.300 How did you start out? 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:41.120 Well, go ahead, George. 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:41.820 Maybe you were going to. 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:49.160 Yeah, it's basically my next question was, as we like to ask many of our guests, how did you get into music in general in the first place? 00:07:49.260 --> 00:07:50.760 Because not everybody starts with metal. 00:07:53.020 --> 00:07:53.420 Right. 00:07:53.780 --> 00:08:22.820 So if you didn't start with metal, what did you start with? Period. So I'm going to try and make this not super boring. If I talk too much, let me know. That doesn't happen on this podcast. Yeah. Okay. I didn't have a lot of friends growing up. And so I really missed like the boy band kind of craze. I missed a lot of like that pop music. 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:29.140 parents listened to which was like credence clearwater and george thoreogood and um and 00:08:29.140 --> 00:08:34.740 shit like that and then i transferred to a new school in fifth grade and i met this girl who had an 00:08:34.760 --> 00:08:40.919 older brother who was a metalhead and so that was like the first time i think i got into 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:51.079 music that wasn't like my parents music um and that was like iron maiden and guar um a little bit of 00:08:51.100 --> 00:08:55.600 like punk shit too so there was like suicidal tendencies which i guess kind of rides that line 00:08:56.040 --> 00:09:04.680 between punk and metal um dri trying to think anthrax um but it was a lot of iron maiden the first 00:09:05.180 --> 00:09:10.300 album like the first cassette i didn't have records the first cassette i ever owned was number of the 00:09:10.420 --> 00:09:15.939 beast that was my next question what was your first and that is so many people's gateway right there 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:45.160 Yeah, maiden. In that particular record, quite frankly, depending on how old you are, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we're all, I'm going to be 42. I think we're all kind of close in age now. Ish. Ish. Is that you're laughing? John's 75, but the rest of us are right now. 74, Marcus. I'll get it right. I look good for 74. Yeah, but she's in our zip code, John. So, yes, we are about the same age. About, okay. I feel like I'm a daylight savings. 00:09:46.560 --> 00:10:15.660 We have some 50s. Oh, that's right. Jay just turned 50 like the other one. Happy belating. Half a century. It's good to hear that Number of the Beast was your gateway because some of us remember when that actually came out and we got to experience it from the beginning. So it's always good to hear those albums are for people that come behind us. That's awesome. It's a way cooler first album. Mine was Styx. No, no. For Maiden. 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:43.960 Why did The Beast come out? 1982. I remember, I can count the years I've been a metalhead because I was born in 72. It came out in 82. And that was one of the first albums, again, for me, that I listened to that turned me into a metalhead. This kid from my baseball team came over. He's like, dude, listen to this. I felt like it was anybody slipping me drugs. I'm like, whoa, what's this? 00:10:44.520 --> 00:11:12.720 But also, well, what's those 70s? I mean, your 50s is right around the corner, too. Oh, yep. Next year. Stacey, do you have a first concert experience you would care to share with us? Oh, man. I went to a lot of, like, garage shows. I can't really count those. I can't even remember the bands that I was seeing, you know, because they were just, like, you know, friends' bands, friends' brothers' bands. I had a friend whose brother was in, like, a ska band, so there was a lot of ska shows. 00:11:13.860 --> 00:11:20.500 I think the first actual like concert at an established venue so embarrassing was skank and pickle 00:11:23.500 --> 00:11:24.260 classy joint 00:11:27.119 --> 00:11:29.140 no I think that's the name of the band George 00:11:29.700 --> 00:11:35.880 the name of the band yeah this is at the metro which is a pretty that's a pretty big venue it's not like a huge huge venue 00:11:36.040 --> 00:11:39.459 you're talking about the metro in Chicago yeah the metro in Chicago yeah I live in Chicago 00:11:41.140 --> 00:12:09.400 So that was like my first concert. My first, what was my first metal concert? It could be the first one you remember, first most memorable. I went to a bunch of OzFests. I'm sure there was metal concerts before that. But that'll do it. I mean, that's it. Yeah. What kind of music was Skank and Pickle, though? Fucking ska. It was ska. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, this wasn't like the music I was super into. A lot of what I listened to, 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:38.880 was sort of dictated by the people that I was hanging out with. I didn't have a lot of money, so I could get a CD or something for my birthday or Christmas, but other than that, it was a lot of mixtapes. I always got really excited when people made me a mixtape or something. It's just, again, what other people were listening to. It might be Number of the Beast, but do you remember the first one you bought for yourself? The first metal record in particular? 00:12:38.880 --> 00:13:08.840 That I bought for myself. Probably Vulgar Display of Power. There you go. I wanted the mixtape thing just sort of sparked something. Uh-oh. Well, I mean, you know how much I push music on people. Can you imagine what I was like in the 80s with a dual cassette deck? Yeah. I was like, you gotta check this out. And you know. And they never. And everybody's like, what the fuck? 00:13:08.880 --> 00:13:38.860 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And you know, you put the songs in there in a particular order to mean a particular thing and you're just like, I just so love that thing, man. And everybody's just like, yeah, I couldn't listen to that. Or, you know, whatever. Hey, George, did your dual cassette player have that speed record on it? Where you play both of them on fast forward, like you record and fast forward and you play the thing in fast forward. Amazing. I was just ripping out tapes and in like two weeks later, the tape would snap. You're like, fuck, this sucks. I wonder why that 00:13:38.900 --> 00:14:08.680 I recorded a lot of shit off the radio. We had this metal station called VVX. It like came on at like 10 at night and would play like music until four in the morning. That's how I got a lot of metal. I used to I used to record Friday night videos, the two metal songs they played on a cassette recorder through the speaker of the of the TV and pardon this somewhat raunchy story. But a friend of mine, I was staying at his house one time and they had like no one like you. Scorpion's video was on. We were like, 00:14:10.060 --> 00:14:13.100 And we recorded it and my friend farted really loud in the middle of it. 00:14:13.620 --> 00:14:17.720 And so forever, I can still tell you exactly where that song that fart comes from. 00:14:18.760 --> 00:14:19.120 Jeez. 00:14:20.280 --> 00:14:22.080 That was the only way I heard it for a long time. 00:14:22.110 --> 00:14:22.840 We let it on the record. 00:14:23.040 --> 00:14:24.200 There's no one like. 00:14:24.380 --> 00:14:24.920 That's amazing. 00:14:25.280 --> 00:14:26.220 Wait, wait, I can do this. 00:14:27.180 --> 00:14:28.340 There's no one like. 00:14:28.470 --> 00:14:29.160 You don't want to offend me? 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:30.800 No, I know. 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:34.100 Both of my kids have shat directly into my hands. 00:14:34.560 --> 00:14:36.980 It's like, fart is nothing. 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:38.260 You're right, you're right. 00:14:38.360 --> 00:15:08.340 That was, I was... I'm assuming you are married to a man, right? So therefore, farts. I'm the way... No, he hardly farts. I am, like, way gassier than he is. You got him covered. All right, well, good. I feel better, and I feel terrible for having a single job like that. Women don't fart. They fluffy. But you really have to appreciate, and John, I know you'll like this, and George probably too, but there are certain records I used to have where I anticipated the skips. I was just going to say that. This was similar to that. So there was, like, right in 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:37.480 The Guitar Soul. And the first time I heard it, I was like, hey, they must have remastered this. One of my first albums I bought, I think with my own money, was Back in Black when it came out in 80. And it had like two or three skips on the album. Do you know for like 30 years? I heard the skip every time. And then I bought it, you know, remastered. I was like, whoa, this is what I've been missing. And it's literally a nanosecond. But it's nothing. I appreciate those mixtakes too. 00:15:37.540 --> 00:16:06.440 I remember getting so many mixtapes and making them so much. So that was definitely a gateway into music as well. I just got a mixtape from Keith D from Arctic Sleep. I saw he was asking people if they wanted them. Yeah, it's really cool. You know, I know you've got a list of questions here, George, but one has occurred to me quick, and it's because it's kind of related to this one. I don't have all that many, so. Okay. What's the last thing you got to see before lockdowns and whatnot? Oh, shit. Yeah. 00:16:07.560 --> 00:16:37.040 This was like the week before everything shut down in Chicago, but I saw Cult of Luna. Oh, fuck yeah. Nice. With Intranaut. With Intranaut. Yeah, that's the last show I saw too. Wild. Yeah. Yeah. And I, oh God, the list of shows that I was looking forward to that got canceled. Oh yeah. Shows are like, that's my therapy. That's what I do to like stay sane. In the summers, I'll go to like two or three a week. There was times I just finished. 00:16:37.560 --> 00:17:07.520 there's grad school last summer and there were there were shows like monday night wednesday night shows that i would go and i would take my fucking textbooks and i would read between sets i just want to i just want to hear music um am i a doctor yeah no i'm i have a master's okay master's well congratulations in any case thank you what's crazy is uh i probably you were probably at a lot of shows that i went to when i was in chicago i know i lived in chicago 20 years yes that's wild 00:17:08.660 --> 00:17:37.480 What were some of your last ones there, Marcus? Let's find out. The last ones in Chicago? Geez, I don't even remember now. Well, actually, I do remember the last one. I think we talked about it on the show. It was Amada Marth, and I was sick. I hardly ever get sick, and I had the flu, and I went anyways, and I almost passed out of the show. My friend, the captain, had to hold me up so I could watch Amada Marth perform. That was really good. 00:17:37.540 --> 00:18:07.180 That was at, I don't remember what venue it was at, but yeah, that was one of the last shows. So, Stacey, has any of the venues closed there? Because, I mean, there's so many great ones. I know. I'm sorry. Like, for good, I think, is the question, right? You mean closed. Gone out of business. I haven't heard about any, but I just wondered if. No, I haven't either. As far as I know, like, Livewire is still going, Subterranean is still going, 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:37.160 And Reggie's, like, my second home, I think they're fine. Empty Bottle is starting to open for, not for live music, but they're opening for just, like, come drink here or whatever. Cobra Lounge has been doing fine, I think. I love all those places. Yeah. Reggie's, I'm sure Reggie's is still open. Reggie's is fine. Like, they've been doing just, like, bar service, and I think they have, like, a rooftop deck. I've actually never eaten there. Yeah. But I think they've, like, so I think everyone's 00:18:37.200 --> 00:19:07.160 They've been doing okay. The only ones that... I don't think any ones that have closed were closed from COVID. I'm trying to think. But I think Chicago has been doing okay. I mean, there's so many great venues. Bottom Lounge. Subterranean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been meaning to tell you, John, just since we're on this track here, and it's not a venue, but Amoeba in Berkeley is this close to closing. They're not going to 00:19:08.120 --> 00:19:37.160 They haven't been open through the whole time, by the way. That sucks. And now that they can be open, I don't even think they can. That's the record shop, right, Jay? It's one of the three, yeah. Mine has been working with the one in L.A. Oh, is that right? Which they're doing fine, by the way. I think they're doing good, yeah. Were you guys both in L.A. for a while, or was it just him? Oh, man, it's a long and sordid story. He's from Mexico, then moved to San 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:06.920 I haven't. 00:20:07.180 --> 00:20:36.640 I haven't yet. I haven't been able to watch. Well, we have been watching shit, but I haven't gotten around to it. It's worth your time because they were just a bunch of dope smoking. You know, it's like the cream magazine thing or national lampoon. They were pretty crazy. So I bet you might see some things you recognize their names and stuff. Oh, I'm sure there's there's been talk. There's like a tower records space group page. Oh, isn't it? Yeah. John, you would have shopped the tower a lot, right? I mean, the towers from Northern California. Yeah. Yeah. 00:20:37.200 --> 00:21:06.920 My husband worked at the one in Sacramento. Yeah. I used to go to the one. There was, I don't know how many in the city I used to go to all the time. There was one in San Mateo I used to go to all the time. Yeah. All over the place. I used to go to the one on South Street in Philly. They're open as an online store now. Oh, really? That's right. I'd forgotten that. I can't remember. Did the Sacramento one finally shut down? I know that was the only one that was open at the end. But I didn't know if they finally shut it down. I used to drive by it. You know, you could see the facade. 00:21:07.180 --> 00:21:37.080 with the lights and everything on it. So it was cool. Yeah, it was my second home in Ann Arbor. I used to go in there every week and just like literally look through everything. That's why I found so many bands there. It will station. So that was the fucking shit, dude. You know where the total wine is over in Alexandria? Yep. Did you know used to be a tower right there? Like in that same area. It was just a disaster. I go by a beer and then go to tower. Oh, this is going to be. I know there used to be Bailey's there. 00:21:37.200 --> 00:22:06.640 There was a Bailey's Fitness there for a while. It was over on that side. Yeah. I don't know if that's the same one, but one of the Northern Virginia towers had like a very well-stocked metal section. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah. They had that in Chicago, too, on Michigan Avenue. And it closed long, long ago before the pandemic. But I used to go there because I used to work downtown. And they had a significant metal section. I was always impressed. Stacy, did you say you were at Tower in Chicago? 00:22:07.180 --> 00:22:37.120 I worked at three different ones. There's two in the suburbs that I worked at. And then I worked. There was one on Clark Street in Lakeview that I worked at for a couple of years. Yeah. Were they like, and this was an experience I had at a record store, which also shows off the age, which was we were actually a ticket outlet at that time. But did you go? Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. Did you line up to get free tickets every once in a while for like if that was happening? Oh, we we had this thing. 00:22:37.200 --> 00:23:06.060 where you emailed this guy and he put you on the list and we would get free shows at Metro and House of Blues. Awesome. Yeah. No, I had some pretty good shows that were... Jay, that was a little advanced for us, Jay, where we had to get out there at like five in the morning. Dude, I slept at the mall overnight to get Metallica Justice tickets. Yeah. Yeah, I stood that line. I did it at Sears. I was a ticketmaster at Sears. 00:23:07.340 --> 00:23:35.640 from Tower that they ever did? Remember the Tower magazine, what was in it? The Desert Island Disc section. Oh. Where people would, they would send in their Desert Island Disc and you would just, it'd be just pages of everyone's favorite, like 10 albums and stuff like that. What musicians you mean? I don't remember. It kind of rings a bell though. No, it was anyone. Anyone could put it in the Tower magazine. I remember that was a very typed looking magazine, at least early on. Remember how it just looked like somebody typed it on a typewriter? 00:23:37.180 --> 00:23:41.560 This is a full-on magazine. 00:23:42.380 --> 00:23:43.340 Jay's really old, too. 00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:49.540 John is the only one who can really take that title for me, though. 00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:50.080 Right. 00:23:50.560 --> 00:23:53.280 But apparently they weren't typewriters in my area. 00:23:53.290 --> 00:23:54.820 They were really nice magazines. 00:23:56.560 --> 00:23:57.620 Everything was on abacus. 00:23:57.900 --> 00:23:59.480 They're like engraved in stone. 00:24:02.860 --> 00:24:05.140 Do you buy physical albums? 00:24:05.260 --> 00:24:35.220 You get vinyl or anything like that? Yeah. So I was being a patron by going to shows and like buying shirts and shit. And then once that, like once I have like a million shirts, I'm like, I got to cool it. So I started a vinyl collection. And then I was like, when the fuck do I get to listen to this? I have kids. Like I don't get time to myself. Like there's no way I can put on the record after they go to bed. So that kind of stopped. And that's why I asked 00:24:36.200 --> 00:25:05.180 I wanted to consume music more ethically. I think I just do a lot of streaming and feeling not so good about that. Now George does it? He doesn't have fucking kids. But he buys so much. I see it. I get a little email notification. He buys shit on Bandcamp because I follow him. So I should do that too, but I didn't really know how to deal with a bunch of, I don't know, just digital files. 00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:35.080 So I don't know what's going on. External hard drive. Yeah. Yeah. So. External hard drive. Music B. For music B. John told me about that. And there are still people like me who are still clinging on to the MP3 player, which won't be a thing much longer. Keep listening to your crappy music. You're compressed. Horrible. Walk around with it. You know what's cool, though? They have really weird. It's a new Sonny Walkman. I was just going to say. 00:25:35.260 --> 00:26:04.340 They have a Sony Walkman and it plays like all kinds of files. Yeah. How much? 150. I think they have one Markisan there like $3,500 for professionals or they definitely have. They've gone high end. Or if you had a Mac, you could just use Vox and stream it all from the cloud without having to carry. I don't want my files on some dude's computer and some fucking back ass alley somewhere. It works pretty good. It's not actually up in the sky. 00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:35.220 It's on some dude's fucking server. You just improved my life, John. I appreciate that. Did you have a Walkman, Stacey, when you were a kid? Oh, I had a Walkman and I had, well, like I had a cassette Walkman. Yeah. Right. And like fifth and sixth. That's how I was listening to like Number of the Beast and Scum Dogs. And then I had like a CD player, like a Walkman CD player. Disc fan. Yeah. Yeah. And how fucking how much heavier your backpack would get. It really sucks. I remember, too, trying 00:26:35.260 --> 00:27:03.780 I was trying to bring it into the dark room when I was in these photography classes and trying to listen to music while I was in there. What a mess. But now I just yeah and I just use my phone. I tell you I really miss my commute. That was like music time. Yeah yeah. No I totally get that. I mean I never shut up about it but I'm happy to say it again but I swim at lunch at work and I have this iPod that you can listen to underwater and everybody and I'm going to be talking underwater audio.com swimming and the YMCA is back. Yay! 00:27:05.260 --> 00:27:34.040 There's a bass guitar behind you. Do you play? I started playing about a year ago. Nice. That was like my one of my quarantine sort of hobbies, I guess. And you're sticking with it? I am. I love it. I'm trying to stick with it as much as I can. I have some medical issues that are getting in the way of it sometimes. But yeah, I've always wanted to be in a band. 00:27:34.120 --> 00:27:38.660 I always wanted to be like a front person like I wanted to be like a vocalist but 00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:45.100 I am you know I love metal but I don't really like clean singing very much especially 00:27:45.780 --> 00:27:51.920 this is a very unfeminist thing for me I don't like I don't like clean female vocals and metal it 00:27:52.040 --> 00:28:04.080 really bothers me and like it just never I never saw like a a woman using distorted vocals and it would it never occurred to me like until like a couple years ago 00:28:04.100 --> 00:28:08.480 I think when I saw Abnormality and I was like fuck or an immortal bird 00:28:10.080 --> 00:28:18.600 do you know her by the way you should be a big fan of kitty come on oh my god no well also there's uh and I mean I'm not a huge fan but Arch Enemy 00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:28.620 Arch Enemy yeah hey Throne Hammer I didn't know about them you know what's funny I I uh I love the last Throne Hammer 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:30.100 record like two years ago. 00:28:31.330 --> 00:28:36.760 I didn't realize until the other day that the lead singer is a woman from England. 00:28:37.180 --> 00:28:37.740 You can't tell. 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:38.940 I didn't know that either. 00:28:39.010 --> 00:28:39.980 No, absolutely not. 00:28:40.300 --> 00:28:40.800 It's crazy. 00:28:41.320 --> 00:28:42.340 Because I just bought the new one. 00:28:44.020 --> 00:28:44.460 Yeah. 00:28:45.980 --> 00:28:48.720 So I have the Zen of Screaming DVD. 00:28:49.700 --> 00:28:50.060 Oh, really? 00:28:50.390 --> 00:28:53.420 I want to try. 00:28:53.650 --> 00:28:56.540 But again, I have a high full of people. 00:28:57.580 --> 00:28:59.080 A little scream. 00:29:00.080 --> 00:29:00.160 No. 00:29:00.280 --> 00:29:01.960 You can't even really do it like in a parking lot. 00:29:02.540 --> 00:29:03.300 Somebody's going to be like, what? 00:29:03.860 --> 00:29:05.680 Just give us like napalm death scum. 00:29:05.780 --> 00:29:06.500 Yeah, I live in. 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:07.440 No. 00:29:08.460 --> 00:29:08.720 There you go. 00:29:09.340 --> 00:29:11.640 We wouldn't want you screaming near us in a parking lot. 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:12.920 We might get arrested or something. 00:29:13.600 --> 00:29:13.720 Yeah. 00:29:15.980 --> 00:29:16.880 It's hard to do it here, too. 00:29:16.940 --> 00:29:18.100 I live in a condo building. 00:29:18.540 --> 00:29:21.140 I don't want to make the neighbors think I'm getting murdered. 00:29:21.600 --> 00:29:22.200 Yeah, for sure. 00:29:22.420 --> 00:29:22.720 No, no. 00:29:22.740 --> 00:29:23.460 It's a problem, man. 00:29:23.580 --> 00:29:27.560 I mean, even in a house, I have my neighbors that are fairly close by, and I can only play 00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:57.540 I have a cat and she would freak out. Don't want to disturb the cat. How many of you are musicians? In any kind of way. George plays guitar. Drums and percussion for me. I actually have a band. Oh. She has a really, really great band actually. What's your band? I always apologize for it but I didn't name it the 00:29:57.600 --> 00:30:27.540 I never did, but we're called Catatonic Society. I'll post it up here. Don't band camp. Why are you apologizing for that? I just think it's the dumbest fucking name. It's so weird. I don't know why I'm like that, but in any case. Yet if you want to find him on band camp, he's Catatonic J. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. It's so dumb. He named yourself that. Yeah. I always shorten your name, the name of your band to Catsock. Actually, I was going to text you this week, George, because I just ordered 00:30:27.580 --> 00:30:56.420 a new guitar. Oh, yeah? What'd you get? Yeah. It's, you know, I got a Randy Rhoads signature. Oh. I haven't got it yet, but I'll have it. Nice. But now I have way too many guitars. I really want. Is there such a thing? No, fair enough. There's no such thing. Now, I've posted a link. If you feel so inclined, you'll go listen someday, but please don't. Okay. Okay. Yeah. No, no, no. I love listening to new music. And George is too modest because he's. Oh, it's not old. It's not new. It's super old. Oh, whatever. 00:30:57.560 --> 00:30:58.340 10 years ago. 00:30:58.620 --> 00:30:59.600 That's five years ago. 00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:00.200 Wow, that's old. 00:31:00.950 --> 00:31:01.060 Yeah. 00:31:01.760 --> 00:31:02.740 Second record will happen. 00:31:03.220 --> 00:31:04.680 But George is, he's being more modest. 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:07.020 He's very, and I mean this in the best way. 00:31:07.060 --> 00:31:08.220 He's a real competent guitar player. 00:31:08.310 --> 00:31:12.920 Like he's, he learns some pretty complex songs and stuff and then records at home. 00:31:13.100 --> 00:31:13.900 So George is. 00:31:13.900 --> 00:31:14.920 I am astounded. 00:31:15.280 --> 00:31:19.040 He told me, he was like, I just recorded, I just, I just learned how to play it and recorded 00:31:19.180 --> 00:31:19.720 it on the day. 00:31:22.800 --> 00:31:24.800 And it's like Diary of a Madman or something. 00:31:25.120 --> 00:31:25.260 Yeah. 00:31:25.500 --> 00:31:25.640 Yeah. 00:31:25.970 --> 00:31:26.060 Yeah. 00:31:26.060 --> 00:31:26.360 You both heard that. 00:31:26.360 --> 00:31:27.180 I did all the instruments. 00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:28.340 No big deal. 00:31:28.690 --> 00:31:28.800 Whatever. 00:31:29.170 --> 00:31:30.820 Now, Die of Amendment took for fucking ever. 00:31:31.820 --> 00:31:33.220 That took, like, at least a week. 00:31:34.900 --> 00:31:35.660 It's a hard song? 00:31:35.860 --> 00:31:36.780 It is, man. 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.820 Have you had the opportunity to play with anybody else, or are you still too, like, 00:31:41.320 --> 00:31:42.040 I'm not ready for that? 00:31:42.600 --> 00:31:46.900 I mean, I started playing during lockdown, and I haven't really seen anybody, including, 00:31:47.170 --> 00:31:48.160 like, my family. 00:31:49.340 --> 00:31:54.980 So, Steve, who you all know now, wants to start a band. 00:31:55.540 --> 00:31:56.360 It's a little premature. 00:31:56.900 --> 00:31:57.080 Yeah. 00:31:57.120 --> 00:32:26.360 So when you practice, are you, well, like, are you just like, you know, playing scales? Are you learning songs? What are you doing? Oh, a little bit of both. Um, so I've been using this app called musicians. Oh my God. I fucking hate that app. Fuck you. Well, try, try and get out of paying that. Oh my God. It is an act of God. Yeah. Okay. No, no. So, 00:32:27.120 --> 00:32:57.100 If you can see the short middle guitar that I'm desperately there. That's my daughter's. And so a guitar teacher said, go get you musician. So I signed up. I paid whatever bucks a month and trying to get out of that. It was like some guy from the South Asia who was like, no, go fuck you. You can't get out of it. I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to fucking kill you. Anyway, so I just because George was asking how and when you practice and stuff. And I got something new that I really recommend to 00:32:58.580 --> 00:33:26.660 - especially George and you with your kids. It's called the Mustang, Fender Mustang Micro and this is an amp modeler and it goes through your headphones. You just plug it into your guitar and you can play and it's got like 800 some, it's ridiculous amount of really quality sounding amp sounds on it. - Can you put that up again? - Yeah. - I'm gonna write it down. - It actually just came out and I read a review of it and I was like, hell yeah, I'm getting one. It's just as cool as they said it was. - Nice. - Is that a sex toy or what is that thing? Mustang Micro? 00:33:27.140 --> 00:33:28.000 It's dual duty. 00:33:29.760 --> 00:33:31.740 See, you and everything is a sex toy. 00:33:33.360 --> 00:33:38.080 It's USB for him and Wi-Fi for her. 00:33:39.180 --> 00:33:44.280 So if you want to play in the middle of the night or whatever, you can actually get loud distorted type sounds. 00:33:44.380 --> 00:33:45.660 Hey, Jay, can you swim at that? 00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:50.840 Underwateraudio.com 00:33:51.820 --> 00:33:52.600 Mustang edition. 00:33:54.600 --> 00:33:55.520 Mustang Micro. 00:33:56.540 --> 00:34:26.500 Actually, I do have a question for you, Jay. What headphones do you use when you are swimming underwater listening to these musics? Give me a chance to do the joke. It's underwater.audio.com. I mention so often that the guys give me shit about it constantly. They just sell... Actually, I have one right here. This is my swim pod. It's just a shuffle. Then they have the headphones that are just waterproof. They're earbuds and you buy them from them. They buy these and then they waterproof these. 00:34:27.240 --> 00:34:31.679 and they do the same thing with the headphones. And the weird thing about it is they sound better 00:34:31.919 --> 00:34:36.500 underwater because they're like in space and stuff. And I swim like an hour a day and I just love it. 00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:44.980 That's nice. That's nice. My husband was a swimmer. Would like to be again now that, you know, shit's opening up again. Pre-COVID, yeah. 00:34:45.190 --> 00:34:50.940 Yeah. So he was like a lap swimmer. He had me to go and just. Yeah, that was his exercise. Like that's what he liked to do. 00:34:51.230 --> 00:34:56.360 Yeah. I miss it. Yeah, I miss it. Yeah, I bet. I miss it. Anyway, yeah, I'm telling you, I highly recommend it. 00:34:56.399 --> 00:35:26.200 It's like 100 bucks, 150 bucks. So you told us about some of your last shows. Do you have any tickets to any upcoming shows? Fuck, like the ones that got canceled that I'm hoping are? No, that was a not so subtle. Shit. Well, people, there haven't been a lot of announcements yet, right? At least not in the United States. I'm seeing a lot of festivals that I'd fucking love to check out if I could like go overseas. I bought the Decibel. That's what I was alluding to. 00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:56.360 There's a there's a there's a wait are you saying that we will meet you in person you're gonna meet me in person yeah i know that was my segue question into if everybody's getting vaccinated i think this shit might actually happen i know i'm just i'm trying not to get to like my hopes up too much because i will just be crushed this is the only thing that matters this year it's gonna happen it's gonna happen i'm vaccinated 00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:57.420 You guys are getting it soon 00:35:57.970 --> 00:35:58.400 They didn't 00:35:58.450 --> 00:35:59.460 They still haven't put any 00:36:00.250 --> 00:36:00.920 We have some 00:36:01.180 --> 00:36:01.840 Inns over there 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:02.800 You guys know that 00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:03.480 More than me 00:36:03.500 --> 00:36:03.800 We know some 00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:05.560 There's still only three bands though 00:36:05.860 --> 00:36:06.560 That are confirmed now 00:36:06.640 --> 00:36:07.160 For the new 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:08.820 Which is the three like 00:36:08.940 --> 00:36:09.320 Headliners 00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:09.540 But 00:36:10.560 --> 00:36:11.400 I mean I want to see 00:36:11.520 --> 00:36:12.120 Pig Destroyer 00:36:12.380 --> 00:36:12.540 Like 00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:13.380 Oh totally 00:36:13.620 --> 00:36:13.880 Yeah 00:36:14.319 --> 00:36:14.680 Yeah 00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:16.780 There's a 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:18.300 There's one that's happening 00:36:18.500 --> 00:36:18.980 In Milwaukee 00:36:18.980 --> 00:36:20.360 That I'm kind of excited about 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:21.560 Cause it was 00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:22.880 It got cancelled previously 00:36:23.240 --> 00:36:23.700 But they're saying 00:36:23.820 --> 00:36:24.560 It's like this is gonna happen 00:36:24.700 --> 00:36:25.280 For real this time 00:36:25.410 --> 00:36:26.360 Cause they like 00:36:26.380 --> 00:36:56.340 an outdoor venue just in case the real one doesn't work out which if it happens indoors it's at an arcade which i'm so fucking excited about mad with power festival and i'm normally not too into power metal but paladins playing and i really wanted to see them i was so into um ascension i mean like the first songs about legend of zelda i was a huge gamer before i had kids um so i'm like really stoked about that i think mortal guardians playing is supposed to be like a full laser light show like i 00:36:56.360 --> 00:37:26.160 I'm really looking forward to that. But that's supposed to happen in August. You need some glory hammer. Do you have shows by yourself or do you have a group of people that you go with? I usually go, most of the shows I go to are by myself. I ran, I made a friend. I saw Skeleton Witch in 2018 at Lincoln Hall. And I ran into like an old neighbor, like someone I grew up with that I hadn't seen. 00:37:26.220 --> 00:37:56.200 I don't think in like 30 years and he was with someone who had said that he goes to a lot of shows or whatever and I was like let me get your number I always go by myself it's not always super fun I wish I would have known you back in the day because I went to almost all the shows by myself really yeah and I went I went like maybe once or twice a week yeah yeah oh word well if you ever I know you are in Hawaii now George told me I'm sorry if that came off as like stalkery but um 00:37:56.240 --> 00:38:26.040 She knows exactly where you are. She's got to track her. And your IP address is. You're going to see me outside your window. Oh boy. That'd be pretty high up. 40 some floors up. Yeah. I think in the majority of shows I go to by myself. Me too. I know you're paying. Well, I'll be coming back. So yeah, I'll hit you up. Because when I come back, I'm definitely going to go see some metal shows. It'll be centered around metal shows. 00:38:26.220 --> 00:38:56.160 for sure. Just actually, hold on here. I want to start a support group because Matt, I think Matt, Matt, Matt nodded his head too. And I, you're interested about yourself too, huh? I guess. Yeah. I had a, I used to go with my cousin a lot and then he moved out to Philly to go to a dental school. So yeah, I was always, and you know, strangely enough, I wasn't doing, um, I wasn't in school, so I wasn't doing homework, but I was actually doing work on my phone at shows. Of course, you know, being a few beers in, I always like throughout the day at work, I always think like, what would this be like to do if I was slightly drunk and actually doing it at a show? 00:38:57.220 --> 00:39:26.200 I feel very productive and happy with that. It sort of takes the anxiety out of it, right? You remember things a little better. You think things you don't normally think during the day with your coworkers. Hey, you know, we should have asked early on, are you two both in the storm area of what just went through this latest blizzard thing? Or was that not Midwest? It was like last week there was another big snow event. Was it last week? There was. We had a 00:39:26.240 --> 00:39:54.680 I have no concept of time anymore. It could have been a year ago. I don't fucking know. It's all the same. We had a lot of snow not that long ago. But it wasn't last week. Maybe this was Colorado then. This was definitely last week and thousands of flights were getting. We had a dusting. But it was like 72 days before it snowed. I have a vague recollection of snow. 00:39:56.240 --> 00:40:25.980 It's that cold white stuff. Jackass. Oh, Mr. Rub it in there. Mr. Rainbows. But I will say this, it's beautiful here today. Absolutely gorgeous in Northern California. It says California sunny day, John. You know what I'm talking about. It's about as good as it gets right now. Yeah, man. Which I have missed for 26, seven years now. I was going to ask you if you missed California. Parts of it. Fair enough. Where did you live in California? 00:40:26.220 --> 00:40:55.920 I'm from San Francisco. Oh, nice. Yeah. So I go to all the places Johnny's. Yeah. And I'm like, fuck you, dude. And I definitely, I think I want to come visit Jay just to see some metal shows. Yeah. Yeah. I really want to do that. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. And you're in San Francisco, Jay. I lied when I said I knew where everyone is. I mean, technically I can see it from my house, but I live in a town called Richmond that's next to Berkeley. So, okay. So, and that's right across the bay. 00:40:56.240 --> 00:40:57.360 where all the dirty hippies are. 00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:01.100 There's hippies all over the Bay Area, man. 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:02.480 They're not just a place spot. 00:41:02.740 --> 00:41:03.860 Like it used to be, though. 00:41:04.590 --> 00:41:06.600 Yeah, because they're all down in Silicon Valley now. 00:41:06.940 --> 00:41:07.160 Yeah. 00:41:07.680 --> 00:41:08.880 They all have jobs. 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:10.920 Well, and you've got to be rich to live here, yeah. 00:41:11.040 --> 00:41:11.280 Yeah. 00:41:13.140 --> 00:41:15.860 But so I was looking at the Mad with Power Festival, 00:41:16.020 --> 00:41:17.680 and that's in Madison, Wisconsin, I see, 00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:19.040 which I used to live in Madison. 00:41:19.300 --> 00:41:19.860 Oh, you did? 00:41:20.700 --> 00:41:21.560 I was born there, actually. 00:41:22.040 --> 00:41:22.400 Oh. 00:41:23.240 --> 00:41:24.220 I forgot already. 00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:53.880 How did you land in Illinois? Or is that where you started? I already forgot. Yeah, no, I was born in Illinois. Pretty much like Chicago suburbs. I've never been more than like an hour away from the city. And actually, I think as soon as I learned how to drive, I was trying to come to the city every weekend. Are you guys right in the city now? Yeah, we're pretty north. We're almost as far north as you can be in Chicago before you're like not in Chicago. Yes, exactly. Oh, you would know, Marketson. 00:41:53.900 --> 00:42:23.460 We're in Edgewater. Did you know I lived in Evanston as well? You did? Yes. You're in Edgewater, so you're like right near where I was. It's crazy. Oh, that's wild. You don't have to have an opinion about this if you don't care, but is that where the White Sox side of town is? Oh, no, no, no. That's the south side. That's south side, so we are like far north. Cubbies. Fuck the Cubs. Fuck the Cubs. I'm glad you have an opinion, and I mean that. I could take, when I live in Evanston, 00:42:26.500 --> 00:42:53.420 So are you in then northwest Chicago? No, if you go any more east, you're in the water. Our condo is on the lake. We got very lucky. Are you a Brewers fan or not a baseball fan? My parents are both really into sports. My mom spent a year knitting my dad this huge Bears blanket. 00:42:53.480 --> 00:43:23.120 I grew up with it. It was always on. And I'm talking like not just like Major League Baseball. I'm talking like college fucking football, even like high school shit, like whatever. If it was on TV, they were watching it. It was on the radio. They were listening to it. It just never stuck with me. And it needn't. You know, I mean, it comes and goes in life. I, you know, I snuck baseball in here for a reason. It was because I wanted to tell a joke to John, which is that they just recently announced. And this is true that they just recently announced that we can 20 the A's games. 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:24.920 will allow 20% capacity. 00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:27.000 You guys are going to be selling out. 00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:29.140 Well, that's the joke. 00:43:29.600 --> 00:43:32.620 We never pre-COVID, we never got to 20% capacity. 00:43:34.340 --> 00:43:35.760 So it's just like, oh, so jealous. 00:43:36.600 --> 00:43:38.660 That's a joke between Giants and A's fans. 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:40.060 Yeah, nobody goes there. 00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:41.020 Oh, yeah, gosh. 00:43:41.860 --> 00:43:44.140 They've made similar jokes about the White Sox out here. 00:43:44.580 --> 00:43:46.740 It's just you and a few hundred of your closest friends. 00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:49.900 These guys are really into sports, but I'm not really into sports. 00:43:50.020 --> 00:43:52.380 Especially because of Wrigleyville, which is just awful. 00:43:53.040 --> 00:44:23.000 That's why I hate the Cubs. They fuck with my commute. This is like the area around there, you mean? Yeah. It's all bros and it's just like fraternities. It's like Ann Arbor on a Saturday. The only thing down there is like Music Box Metro's down there. Metro is down there, right? It used to be like way cooler. Like you had the alley. Do you remember the alley, Mark? Yeah, I do. We would drive up just to fucking go to the alley. It was like this fucking, I don't know. How would you describe it? 00:44:23.060 --> 00:44:53.020 It wasn't quite a music store. They had like t-shirts and leather jackets. It wasn't really a head shop. It was a kind of jack-of-all-trades shop. Are you a frequenter of Smucket of Blood? I am familiar. Okay. We had him on recently and he's a friend of Marcuson's. Yeah, he's a friend. You call him a friend, isn't that right? Oh yeah, no, we're friends for sure. We're definitely friends. We became really good friends I think right before I left and we were going to start going to metal shows because again, I didn't 00:44:53.060 --> 00:45:22.460 I don't want anybody to go to the shows with, but you should check it out because they, well, hopefully when the pandemic ends, he spins metal records at Delilah's, which I'm sure you're familiar with. I thought I saw that he was starting to do that again. He's spinning them, but I think it's from home. I don't know if he's actually going there, but he would go there and then spin records and you could win tickets to things. And of course you have this great whiskey. And I've met quite a few people there when I started going and he was spinning and just who are metal fans. So it was always a good time. 00:45:23.060 --> 00:45:52.900 I thought, I'm sorry, go ahead. No, no, please, you're the guest. I'm sorry, I don't like interrupting people. I thought Bucket of the Bloods was just more of like a label. I didn't, is it like a storefront? It's a record store. Oh, it's a store, okay. Yeah, but Stacey, they sell all kinds of different records, music, CDs, and tapes. They focus a lot on metal, but they also have a lot of sci-fi books, horror books, so it's a bookstore and a record store online. Oh, I totally had like the wrong idea about what any of that was. 00:45:53.040 --> 00:45:54.900 And also you should listen to our cast 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:56.080 because we talked all about this. 00:45:56.980 --> 00:45:57.820 Yeah, yeah, he was on. 00:45:57.980 --> 00:45:58.220 So you might. 00:45:59.420 --> 00:46:00.820 And we all bought a bunch of records from him. 00:46:02.359 --> 00:46:05.000 So my interruption was going to be that, 00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:06.440 speaking of things starting up again 00:46:06.680 --> 00:46:08.220 and possibly Grant's winning records and whatnot, 00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:11.220 did you guys see the horrendous streaming show 00:46:11.460 --> 00:46:12.500 that's coming from St. Vitas? 00:46:13.140 --> 00:46:13.900 I'm kicking myself. 00:46:14.080 --> 00:46:15.080 Is it tonight or is it? 00:46:15.420 --> 00:46:16.300 I thought it was in April. 00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:17.500 Oh, wait, what? 00:46:17.560 --> 00:46:18.000 What am I missing? 00:46:18.359 --> 00:46:20.600 No, no, this was the band Horrendous 00:46:20.740 --> 00:46:21.880 is going to be at St. Vitas. 00:46:22.020 --> 00:46:22.700 Oh, it was last night? 00:46:22.740 --> 00:46:24.720 It was last night because I remember 00:46:25.780 --> 00:46:28.540 I was texting with Metal Chris 00:46:28.710 --> 00:46:30.660 who was bitching on Twitter about it 00:46:31.240 --> 00:46:31.980 About what? 00:46:32.210 --> 00:46:33.040 He was bitching on Twitter? 00:46:33.560 --> 00:46:34.380 What a shock 00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:36.200 Who was it? 00:46:36.200 --> 00:46:36.700 It was Horrendous 00:46:36.700 --> 00:46:37.480 and who was the other band? 00:46:38.500 --> 00:46:39.200 I forget 00:46:39.820 --> 00:46:40.520 It doesn't matter 00:46:40.630 --> 00:46:41.360 But they're playing the 00:46:41.460 --> 00:46:43.260 They're playing the decibel thing too 00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:43.660 aren't they? 00:46:44.640 --> 00:46:45.240 Right I thought so 00:46:45.260 --> 00:46:46.120 I'm looking at it right now 00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:46.500 Yeah 00:46:47.740 --> 00:46:49.240 With Midnight and Chemist 00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:49.880 and Full of Hell 00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:50.600 Yeah yeah yeah 00:46:51.100 --> 00:46:51.920 By the way 00:46:51.940 --> 00:47:21.880 That Decimal Show is fucking awesome. Yeah. The Horrendous Show, I was going to catch it because, but I was on the Dead Letter Omissions podcast. My buddy, Jonathan Lamanchi, did the artwork for the poster. And he's done a cover for my comic book, Previously Voracious. And he also did the cover for my Ashen Ford tape that I put out, or it's coming out. But it was at St. Vitus Bar, which is like the New York. And I don't know if they actually went to the bar. I don't know, did they stream it from the place? Or is it just like, 00:47:21.940 --> 00:47:51.900 I just know that they posted an image on was it Instagram and it was the one guy was frozen because they were having technical issues so they're going to get it sorted out once it's back up I think it'll be up for like 48 hours if you want to watch it I was in Harry Potter last night with the kids so I couldn't watch it have you consumed any yeah that's going to get edited and used as a sample at some point I was 00:47:53.760 --> 00:48:21.600 That sounds like a tool song. I don't know. I'd rather be in her hiney. I asked Stacy. Stacy, have you watched any streaming events that anything stuck out to you and you're like, yeah, I'm going to check out the enslaved shows or anything? Oh, yeah. No, I think I caught all of the enslaved ones, which are done really well, I feel. Yeah. They're great. One of my favorite bands is Cavalertack. 00:48:21.940 --> 00:48:51.360 both of those, which were, I think, were done really well. The first one especially looked amazing. And the second one was more of like, hey, we're in our basement and we're spinning this wheel. But it was like, it was funny. I'm a fan. How do you feel about the new singer? I, okay, I don't like Split at all. Like, it's shit. But the new singer, I'm kind of on board with. He's definitely got like this Axl Rose kind of vibe going on. I think he, again, I'm not, I'm not the biggest fan of clean singing. And I don't like his clean vocals. 00:48:51.520 --> 00:48:57.620 I think he sounds a lot though 00:48:57.840 --> 00:48:59.660 when he does when it's the harsh vocals he sounds 00:49:00.240 --> 00:49:02.620 really good it doesn't sound like anything changed to be honest with you 00:49:03.100 --> 00:49:04.740 right yeah I know it sounds a lot like Erland 00:49:05.860 --> 00:49:07.360 what I'm hoping for is I think 00:49:07.540 --> 00:49:09.300 Split was sort of in 00:49:09.740 --> 00:49:11.480 in the process of being written when 00:49:11.640 --> 00:49:13.560 Erland left I think this is what I remember 00:49:13.660 --> 00:49:15.600 I get my wires crossed a lot and so I think 00:49:15.680 --> 00:49:17.380 that that album was just kind of a mess 00:49:17.620 --> 00:49:19.240 because there were maybe like 00:49:19.580 --> 00:49:21.500 different sort of viewpoints 00:49:21.520 --> 00:49:51.380 coming in when you get a new singer. I don't know. I'm hoping. I know they're in the studio. So I'm hoping the next one is cool. It wasn't up to par. I agree. They were some good tracks, but it was. Yeah, but it just didn't grab me like the other ones did. Right. I will say I've seen them live with those singers and it was really good. No, I mean, they were, I mean, the previous singer was amazing too. The year I saw him with him, it was one of the best shows of that weekend, but I thought they did an amazing job with the new singer. Well, we saw them, didn't we? 00:49:51.520 --> 00:49:52.700 at DC Brawl? 00:49:53.540 --> 00:49:55.880 Well, they also opened for Mastodon a few times. 00:49:56.200 --> 00:49:57.300 No, we saw 00:49:59.500 --> 00:49:59.860 Torch. 00:50:02.500 --> 00:50:04.240 There's no way you didn't see them with Mastodon, 00:50:04.270 --> 00:50:06.140 John, because they were with Mastodon on a couple of tours, 00:50:06.460 --> 00:50:08.760 and they would have been when you still kind of cared about Mastodon. 00:50:09.860 --> 00:50:11.280 I mean, I wouldn't swear to it, but I think. 00:50:11.300 --> 00:50:12.200 That's been a long time. 00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:14.580 Now, let me back off there. 00:50:14.650 --> 00:50:16.180 I think they were on a decibel thing, Stacey. 00:50:16.340 --> 00:50:17.240 Didn't they do a decibel tour? 00:50:18.660 --> 00:50:19.080 Cabellar Tack? 00:50:19.770 --> 00:50:21.200 Yeah, it was them, I think, 00:50:21.340 --> 00:50:48.640 and high on fire. Oh, God, if they did. I didn't find them. So we never finished my sort of how did you get into metal story. I have a big sort of hole. Whoa. That's a sample. Can you sample that? I took a long hiatus from metal. So there's a lot that I missed. I didn't get back into it until like 2018. 00:50:51.320 --> 00:51:19.680 I found Cavalertac through Baroness, who I found through this arts magazine, actually, that I follow on Facebook because, you know, Visley is such a pretty amazing illustrator. Who did both of those? Did both of them? Is that he or he or she did both our cover for both bands? Is that right? The first two. Yeah, I think he did both of the first two Cavalertac albums, but, you know, he does all the work for Baroness. Okay. 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:51.300 What is it? Is it Mare? I always get the ones mixed up. But at some point I realized too that like, oh shit, there's a lot of Nazis in metal and I better make sure that I'm not giving my money to shitty people. And so when I was like trying to vet Koveller Tech, I mean like, you know, what's up with these guys? Are these guys cool? And then the only thing that I found was controversial was the album cover where it's like, shit, I feel stupid. I don't know which one it is. But it's like a couple women and of course their tits are out 00:51:51.320 --> 00:52:20.840 because they're always out in his work. But they're covered in like, it looks like eggs, right? And they're holding birds. And I'm like, what's the problem with this? I get this. Like, I'm a mom. I'm like covered in shit all the time. Like, my kids shit on me all of the time. And it took me like forever. It took me a year to realize that that was Siemens. That it was like. And then can I ask, were you that new? We were like, okay, so I'm okay with that. Yeah, no, that's the one. That's the one. Yeah. So like, and I'm like, what's the big deal? 00:52:22.640 --> 00:52:23.540 And yeah, now, 00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:26.080 George, this is the roping arcs. 00:52:26.160 --> 00:52:26.440 Got it. 00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:27.940 Thank you for bringing that up. 00:52:28.040 --> 00:52:29.000 Cause now people will know. 00:52:29.380 --> 00:52:30.900 Well, I guess people are just listening to this. 00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:32.760 Ever's like, I thought that was part of the flower. 00:52:33.380 --> 00:52:34.880 So it is, how did you pronounce it? 00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:36.620 Cause I'm not an expert of pronunciation. 00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:37.860 Oh, I'm not either. 00:52:38.420 --> 00:52:38.740 Mayor. 00:52:39.339 --> 00:52:39.660 Mayor. 00:52:40.240 --> 00:52:40.880 I have no idea. 00:52:41.380 --> 00:52:42.000 I have no idea. 00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:42.540 All right. 00:52:42.620 --> 00:52:44.320 And I'm sorry that we went really tangential. 00:52:44.500 --> 00:52:46.160 I don't even know where that all started. 00:52:46.420 --> 00:52:48.080 Have you listened to this podcast before? 00:52:53.900 --> 00:53:20.520 I don't get to do this because these guys don't like them that much but pick a favorite which is of the first these your favorite oh fuck um I think the self-titled though though Natsford has my favorite song and that is Natsford self-titled that's my favorite that's my favorite running song it's when I run that's what I want to oh nice that is uh that's that's my favorite one probably 00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:50.200 That's the one nobody likes. I love it, man. I think they're special, man. I get his thoughts from that record. Jay, Will and I did see them. He doesn't remember, but I just pulled up the poster art from that show at DC Browse's fifth anniversary. It was the Sword, Serpent Throne, Cavallotech, Torch, and Lost Boys. Will, we did see them. Where did he go? I'm back. They present an interesting front in that every single amp, 00:53:50.540 --> 00:54:20.500 on the stage with Cavalli Takis and Orange Champ. They use nothing else. So it's a bass player, both guitar players. There's oranges all over the place. I just remember the dude didn't have his shirt on and he was really hairy. I love that guy, man. I love that the way he presented himself. He's not valued for him. We talked about him last time. Did you like his new release or whatever? Because he's Helvik. I don't even know how to say it, but Helvik. He has his own band. I was a little underwhelmed by it. It's like Cavalli Takis. 00:54:21.339 --> 00:54:50.020 It is. And I hated to see him go. So I was prepared to love it, you know, because I couldn't decide when they were together. Well, when he left, I was and neither of them had released anything. I was like, OK, who am I friends with here? Yeah. And it turns out neither of them. But we'll figure it out. Yeah. A couple that were friends with Jay and then they got divorced. He's like, what do I do? I'm going to go live with my aunt. I don't want to get caught in the middle. So be friends with both of you. You know, I have to say, though, I am sorry. 00:54:52.100 --> 00:55:20.520 I keep doing that I don't like it um did you happen to catch uh Erland on when he was on two minutes to late night no I'll look though I love that stuff it was it was funny I forgot what they covered um but it was it was it was after that he released that album no they still haven't listed as Erland whatever from killer tech um but I was like oh he's taking himself way too seriously with this album like I couldn't 00:55:20.540 --> 00:55:49.420 I couldn't get into it, but then I saw him in Two Minutes of Late Night, and he's like, he's in a cape, he has no shirt on, he's in a cape, and he's like being followed around by this chihuahua, and it's just like so fucking silly, and I was like, okay, he totally is just like he's not. Maybe that'll be his presentation with the band. Who is the driving force behind that Two Minutes to Late Night thing? I can't tell you off the top of my head. This is old age. I have no. I think it is, because I think it might be the guy from, 00:55:52.240 --> 00:56:20.520 Mutoid Men sort of do a lot with them. Yeah, Stephen Brodsky. I wonder if that's like his shtick. He's the Mutoid Man guy. Yeah, and Caven. So what other bands do you like, Stacey, that are some of your favorites right now? Favorites right now? They've been around for a while, been enslaved as someone I really got into. They were the first show 00:56:20.560 --> 00:56:48.500 I went to when I was getting back into metal. And that was really informative. Yeah. Fuck. They're so good. Do you have anything about them that will like one album by enslaved? Yeah, it's true. The only one he's listened to. Do you have a favorite record by them? I think vertebrae is my favorite at the moment. Good choice. Every time somebody brings it up, I get to say I bought it in. 00:56:50.580 --> 00:57:20.140 I forgot already. In Norway. In Norway. But I mean, what's the name of the town where they're, you know, the one in Bergen. Yeah, I bought that in Bergen on the day it came out. That's amazing. That's quite a story. But in any case. Okay, so Enslaved, Skeleton Witch, I'm really into. I'm like looking at my little, my tiny little record collection. They're sort of newer, but I had a moment with Worm Witch. Oh, yeah, yeah. Both of their last, I think they only have two, 00:57:20.220 --> 00:57:49.880 But both of them made my year-end lists. Oh, nice. I remember the video for Disciple of Serpent Star was really like this moment for me where I'm watching this video and it's like these two guys and they're like warriors or whatever. And then there's this woman who's also dressed like a warrior and the whole time I'm watching this, I'm like, okay, so when does she get raped? Because that's what happens to women. And there was none of that. They didn't even need to save her. She just got to scream at the fire. 00:57:49.940 --> 00:58:19.660 with them and I was like, fine, I'm 40, why did it take this long for this to happen? It was such a great moment. So they're pretty special to me. Where are they from? They're from Canada. Okay, sorry. Pitter patter. Pitter patter. Take off, yeah, who was there? Well, now I'm like freezing. Oh, good. Okay, well, then I, well, you prompted me another question then too, which is, since you're a skeleton, 00:58:19.940 --> 00:58:49.700 I'm a huge fan. They're, um, which by the way, they're the artist who does their stuff did the cover for my band's record. Just so you know, uh, but, uh, the, uh, they kind of went through a stylistic change on the last record. How did you embrace that? So again, big gaping holes. Um, we can play fill my holes later. If you guys want, uh, but I, um, I, my, my introduction to them was, uh, Devouring Radiant Light. Oh, okay. And that's, that's what I love. But, but like the, the back catalog, I guess, 00:58:50.420 --> 00:58:53.740 is also great to me. I really love them. 00:58:54.500 --> 00:58:55.900 That happens a lot, I think. 00:58:57.000 --> 00:58:58.360 There's a lot of bands that I like right now. 00:58:59.600 --> 00:59:01.180 I'll talk to Steve or something. 00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:02.420 Like, hey, have you checked out Blue? 00:59:02.680 --> 00:59:04.300 He'll be like, I'd just rather listen to it. 00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:08.980 He'll name off some other band that's been around for 800 years or whatever. 00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:11.440 I don't have that same kind of context. 00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:16.100 I'm older, but I'm also kind of like a newbie. 00:59:16.640 --> 00:59:18.460 Yeah, but it's fun to go backwards like that, too. 00:59:18.740 --> 00:59:48.700 And that still happens to me at this age. And especially when you get something when they've already kind of turned a corner and be it for better or for worse. And if you can embrace what people have become prejudiced against that band cannot. And then so you can have a better experience sometimes. Yeah. Matt, I saw you not in your head. You dug that last one quite a bit. I did. But I also struggled with, you know, they released that EP album right after they switched singers. Yeah. And I struggled with it because I love Chance. I mean, I met him in, it's one of the few 00:59:49.119 --> 01:00:18.600 I've met. I mean, when I first saw them, before I watched them play, I was actually scared of him. And then they played and I was like, this is fucking amazing. You know, this is like black and like occult motorcycle gang thrash, which I really loved. But granted, they don't sound quite like that anymore. Right. But they still sound good. But I feel like the article they had in Decibel really kind of shed a lot of light and it made it a lot more understanding. Like the guitarist, Scott something. I know he's really ended like deep, really. 01:00:18.720 --> 01:00:48.680 cool, meaningful music. And so for him to, like, his quote was like, well, I'm listening to this, but I have a singer who's like, go eat more pussy, you know, saying that on stage. And you can kind of see like, okay, I see where you're, where your internal struggle was. I mean, I follow him on Instagram and he's out in California and like, he's like composing music, you know, and then some sort of like school or something like that. Well, he left because they, they came to blows. I mean, cause he was apparently fucking asshole and it was with his brother, right? Didn't he? Yeah. I'm like, I'm, I'm, I don't want to use the word intrigue. 01:00:48.740 --> 01:01:18.260 But I'm like kind of super gossip girl. Like what? What? Like still brothers. Cause I see them again. I follow chance as well on this. Have you heard of Oasis? Yeah. Good point. Good point. The black crows got to be funny. So I don't want to bring up our last guest, but I feel like he was the guy who filled in for chance when like after I'm sorry. Yeah. After chance got kicked off and kicked out of the group, he filled in for some of their live dates. And we didn't, I didn't even realize that until after the fact, but. 01:01:21.180 --> 01:01:47.980 But Adam is his name. He's in Wolfhammer as well. And I'm a Morte, I believe. We had a guy named Rob Halford on. We forgot to ask him about Judas Priest. But yeah, Adam's a dude from Minnesota. So I'm, you know, I'm always like respectful of that. And yes, long story short, really dug the last album. Looking for the next one. So yeah. So you've mentioned Enslaved, Skeleton Witch, Caveller Tech. 01:01:48.720 --> 01:02:18.080 What else you got? Well, I had a question that Markisan preempted with this question, which was what are the styles that interest you the most? Clearly, you like some black metal. I do. I do like black metal. I like shit that's weird. I think this goes back to like being poor, right? And then like, if you have like, like whatever, like album or whatever, like that shit's got to be really, it's got to have a lot in it. I was really into Mr. Bungle too. So things with a lot of like changes, like style changes, time changes. 01:02:19.860 --> 01:02:48.020 So I'm really into like the genre mashing. I like black and roll. I like black gays. Sorry. I know that's like really. It's post black metal on this. Whatever. Yeah, sure. Somebody to lose their noodle here in a second. Okay. Because it sounds like black homosexuals. Yes. You had to say it. Here goes Will. He's holding it back. He's holding it back. I know. What else? 01:02:51.099 --> 01:03:17.840 I like a lot of death metal. I don't know, just like metal. Anything that's just kind of interesting. It seems like a Dillinger Escape Plan person. Dillinger Escape Plan? It's not a band I've explored a lot. I can't say that I don't like them. I'm familiar. I'm a huge Mike Patton fan. I know he's done work with them. They haven't really gone on my radar very much. 01:03:18.720 --> 01:03:47.500 As I say, most of the stuff I've thrown at you, you've been like, that's awesome. You know, you could just be, you know, you know, just saying that, but it seemed like, you know, you kind of had a diversity to your tastes. So. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I'm totally not about parody metal. Right. We've talked about that. Kara, Kara Nair. I think we were going to talk about albums we're listening to later, but it's like a, it's like a chip tune kind of black metal, but it's like really fun. Well, you know, 01:03:48.740 --> 01:04:18.120 As a chiptune album or an EP rather. Oh, do they? Oh, yeah. We've talked. They do not. I am not. It's called Throssenbit. It's on his band camp. Really? It is. Yeah. No. Okay. I'm going to go find it. I'm going to go find it. Is this like Nintendo core? Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm trying to think of the Nintendo core band I know of. Oh, there's the band horse. The band. Wait, is that what is Nintendo core? What the fuck you got? Like I am like now. 01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:47.880 Offer my lawn! Oh man! Even I know about this. 8-bit metal. What the fuck is 8-bit metal? It sounds like a Mario music. Yeah, it's about with guitars and like glass beads. Like literally two weeks ago something came out that was Nintendo Core. Did you ever play Nintendo, Will? No, when you got rid of the joysticks like right around Atari 5200 and like I don't know whatever like 1980. 01:04:48.740 --> 01:05:17.260 Like I'm done. If it doesn't have a joystick, Will's not playing with it. If I can't handle this stick, Will likes a good joystick. Oh, yeah. That's all I got anymore. I'm more of a centipede. I like to use the rollerball. Human centipod. Yeah. Tali just put out a new system. I have that. So it has a joystick. Oh, nice. My wife bought me the mini retro one. 01:05:19.299 --> 01:05:48.700 Yeah, she's like, play with this and leave me alone. It worked. And they're like, why are these fucking squares? I can't even see what's happening. What is that thing? It bothers me that I, because I had to get up, since people can't see that, I had to get up and leave, I came back. You guys were talking about gaming while I was gone, shit. What was the point? Sort of. Sort of. Yeah. I don't even know if I'm saying it right, but 8-bit metal. Oh, right. Well, you said you were 01:05:48.720 --> 01:06:17.780 You were a gamer back in the day or something. I was. And still, now you just don't have time or you just gave it up? I don't have time. Yeah. Stacy, you mentioned that you're an artist and you're an art teacher. And I was wondering, is there a metal cover or covers that really speak to you? Shit. Do you know how many times I drew the Somewhere in Time, Eddie? Oh, nice. Just like every day. That was like my go-to. 01:06:21.180 --> 01:06:21.920 That's awesome. 01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:33.660 He goes around. Derek Riggs shows up in various places now to do signings and things like that. 01:06:35.900 --> 01:06:38.300 Not that I recommend meeting the guy or anything. I don't know anything about him. 01:06:39.220 --> 01:06:42.520 I wanted to try and get him on. He might do. 01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:44.520 I just haven't gotten around to asking. 01:06:45.900 --> 01:07:14.140 He's not English, is he? Or is he English? No, I think he is. Okay. I just sent everybody the Thrasenbit EP link. Oh, thank you. So, all right. So, I don't know if anybody else has questions. I have my... I got a lightning round for Stacey. I got one more question. I have noticed you got a lot of tattoos. I wonder if there's any stories to those tattoos on your arms that you keep seeing. Oh, I don't know. Nothing terribly interesting. This one's a Day of the Dead. 01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:21.840 Not George Romero. 01:07:22.750 --> 01:07:23.760 No, no, no. 01:07:24.260 --> 01:07:24.840 It's like zombies. 01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:28.900 The school I teach at is very Latino. 01:07:29.260 --> 01:07:31.400 It's in Pilsen, if you're familiar with Chicago. 01:07:31.510 --> 01:07:32.600 It's very Latino neighborhood. 01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:35.700 My husband's Mexican, like from Mexico. 01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:38.080 A lot of good art. 01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:40.640 He's Mexican from Mexico? 01:07:41.490 --> 01:07:42.800 I know, right? 01:07:44.740 --> 01:07:45.580 Is that a metalhead? 01:07:45.640 --> 01:08:15.160 He is not a metalhead whatsoever. Actually, he's welcome to the club because none of our spouses like you. Yeah, not a single fucking one. I'll send you a membership card. I interrupted as I asked you. You were doing tattoos. What's that? I was talking about my tattoos? Yeah. Oh, so that's like a tribute to my school. We do like a Diaz de los Muertos display thing every year. We have the students make calacas or whatever. 01:08:15.640 --> 01:08:45.359 And I wanted a sleeve and I needed to sell my principal on this. Right. So I was like, hey, it's like about Juarez. And he was like way into it because otherwise he's very like conservative, like at school dances. He's like, make room for the Holy Ghost. Is he from Juarez? Is that what you mean? He's my principal. So he's the principal at Juarez is the name of our school. It's Benito Juarez Community Academy. Sorry. 01:08:45.640 --> 01:09:13.279 Sorry. Not at all. I used to live near Juarez. Oh, did you? Juarez, Mexico? Juarez, Mexico. Got it. I lived in Las Cruces, New Mexico, but it's like 40 miles from Juarez. Juarez, got it. Got it. So that was that. My other one is like, it's not Finnish, but it'll be Vichy Nanki, which is like Polish folk art. It's a little bit of my heritage. Nice. 01:09:15.620 --> 01:09:45.600 Wait, I thought you were Italian. Right. I am a little bit. My heritage changes depending on which parent you are. You guys are explaining to me. I know. What are you, a mutt like everybody else? Yeah, right. Italian, German, Irish, and Polish is my bag. A large Polish contingent in Chicago, correct? Yeah. I think the second largest is Warsaw, Poland. And like we are the first largest. And Chicago is like number one. 01:09:47.900 --> 01:09:48.900 I'm pretty sure. 01:09:49.220 --> 01:09:49.680 And it's, 01:09:49.740 --> 01:09:51.180 I heard a long time ago. 01:09:51.180 --> 01:09:51.540 It might've, 01:09:51.779 --> 01:09:52.259 might've changed. 01:09:52.580 --> 01:09:54.100 Buffalo's got a heavy population too. 01:09:54.740 --> 01:09:55.520 Pittsburgh is big. 01:09:56.220 --> 01:09:56.520 Minneapolis. 01:09:57.680 --> 01:09:58.520 They're everywhere. 01:09:59.660 --> 01:10:00.260 I'm sorry. 01:10:00.380 --> 01:10:02.120 I keep finding reasons to talk about myself, 01:10:02.360 --> 01:10:04.920 but I went to Poland about two years ago and fuck dude. 01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:05.860 I loved it. 01:10:06.400 --> 01:10:06.660 Yeah. 01:10:07.280 --> 01:10:07.380 I, 01:10:07.620 --> 01:10:07.680 I, 01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:07.920 I, 01:10:08.300 --> 01:10:10.700 Poland is one of my favorite European countries to travel to. 01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:11.740 Everything's affordable. 01:10:12.100 --> 01:10:13.220 There's wonderful architecture, 01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:14.800 metal barbershops. 01:10:15.040 --> 01:10:44.820 I mean you have to ignore the politics but yeah it's fucked up over there right now yeah yeah yeah nice yeah do you do like ponchkin stuff around Easter and all that jazz like are you do you have no we're not like I culturally speaking we're just fucking like we're American like there's none of the sort of culture we I we I've inherited none of the you're Chicago Polish yeah yeah I mean just yeah like 01:10:45.340 --> 01:11:14.500 I think we only do St. Patrick's Day shit because my parents worked for an Irish bar for like many, many, many years. But that's about it. As a fellow pole, I had a grandma who made, she called them poochies, plot sex, all that fun stuff, which contributed to my husky genes. But it's kind of followed by the side. Why don't I ask my question and then we can do Will's lightning round and then we will move on. Take a break, maybe. Yeah. 01:11:14.580 --> 01:11:42.980 I do have to drain the lizard. Yeah, that's cool. And, you know, I'm going to, oh my God, you have a lizard too? A little swollen at the moment. Whoa. She's like a female Will. We've got more samples from this hour than we've gotten in like the last year. No, Will is like a female Will. Hey, Will, I think you're on for the lightning round, buddy. No, I was going to do mine. 01:11:44.580 --> 01:12:14.540 I have a question first. Yeah. And hopefully, hopefully it'll be relatively quick because I gave you a heads up on it. So what song album or artist made a big impact on your life and why? So I mentioned the Worm Witch one earlier, like watching that video. I was like, holy shit. Yeah, that was, that, that was definitely a moment for me. Um, shit. I saw, um, I saw enslaved. This was, so I think these are experiences. 01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:17.080 that associate with the song or music. 01:12:19.380 --> 01:12:22.940 E by Enslaved, when that album came out, I got to see them. 01:12:23.670 --> 01:12:24.660 And I went with my brother. 01:12:25.420 --> 01:12:28.260 And I love my brother, my brother, my sister, like my best friends. 01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:31.800 And God, just the feeling. 01:12:31.910 --> 01:12:34.540 And I think it was the first show that I had been to in a couple years. 01:12:35.180 --> 01:12:40.340 After feeling like I had really sort of lost myself, right? 01:12:40.360 --> 01:12:42.060 I had kids. 01:12:42.440 --> 01:13:12.420 I had a really hard time with my first one. She was really sick. She was in the NICU for a while. She was born with two heart defects and low birth weight. She had heart surgery when she was six weeks old. I'm the Brenwood-er for my family. Having to go to work after spending the whole summer in the hospital with her and that strain that it puts on your marriage. Just feeling like I was 01:13:12.440 --> 01:13:42.300 Not myself. Like I just completely lost any identity that I had. Like I was just like this milk machine that went to this job that at the time was so hard and coming home to like fucking chaos, right? And then making my way back to metal and all of these things that I used to love that used to be such a big part of my identity. And going to the show with someone I care about so much, you know, my brother who I don't get to see very often and being around, 01:13:42.440 --> 01:14:12.220 all these people who are excited about the same thing I'm excited about. And everyone just being like super fucking cool. Like, I remember I stepped on someone's foot and they apologized to me. Like, everyone was just so fucking nice. And, you know, you just hear this like, like amazing music and it's so loud and you just feel it like vibrating through your body. And it was just, that was, that was a moment. That's a good fucking story. I think you answered that better than most of the people have answered it. 01:14:12.280 --> 01:14:40.860 And by the way, a damn fine album. I'm pretty sure we all saw him on that tour. Actually, that was the Decibel was even though they did Frost when we saw him. That's great. And the Aneslave is such a great band, too. And they are special, too. So I can see how you could have this kind of like emotional thing. But the thing, too, is that it's great about that story is that you reconnect with something that makes you feel alive. It makes you feel like, you know, everything matters in the world. 01:14:40.980 --> 01:15:10.960 And a lot of people forget about that. And a great band to be the part of that experience. Like really, they are. There's just something. There's a step above about them. So that's awesome, dude. Was that in Chicago? Was the show in Chicago? Yeah, I was at the Metro. Yeah, I was there. You were there. You know, enslaved are really kind of decibel darlings. I would not be surprised if they got added to the decibel bill. Oh, shit. You know, I really wanted to 01:15:10.980 --> 01:15:14.360 I was really planning on going to Fire in the Mountains this year. 01:15:15.120 --> 01:15:16.700 Oh, yeah. I wanted to see that, too. 01:15:17.120 --> 01:15:19.520 Oh, my God. Oh, what a fucking lineup. 01:15:19.660 --> 01:15:21.400 And then they were perfect for that, too. 01:15:21.780 --> 01:15:22.600 Yeah. Oh, they were. 01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:24.240 God, wouldn't that have been amazing? 01:15:24.240 --> 01:15:25.740 I think Warren was talking about going. 01:15:26.280 --> 01:15:31.060 Warren, our friend at the podcast, fellow brewer with Will. 01:15:31.100 --> 01:15:34.700 I think he was talking about going out to that, too, or he's been to it before or something like that. 01:15:35.200 --> 01:15:36.220 Was it canceled? 01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:37.460 Was it? Is that what happened? 01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:38.560 They postponed it again. 01:15:38.700 --> 01:15:39.940 It was going to happen this summer. 01:15:40.600 --> 01:16:10.240 And then they postponed it until 2021. And now it's 2022. And I don't know how many of the other bands are going to come on. I was kind of looking forward to seeing Souls to Fear. That last album was on my top 20, 40, really 40 albums. But there's a lot of bands that I was looking forward to seeing. But we'll see. I think it'll still be a cool experience. And Slaves is headlining. 01:16:10.940 --> 01:16:40.560 There you go. Yeah. I was of the mind, though, too, that we were all going to be, like, super cautious and creeping on our doors. But I think, fuck that. I think when we all got the shots and stuff, we're going to go crazy, dude. People are already going crazy. Well, okay, fair enough. And I think shows are going to come back faster than we thought they were, in all honesty. So long as these... I'm not helping. Well, fingers crossed. Yeah. We got a lot lined up at Atlas already. Good. Like, by a lot, what do you mean? Five, ten, five, ten bands? Five, ten shows? Well, just the interest of 01:16:40.580 --> 01:17:10.560 Bands who are saying, as soon as you open, we are coming to play. It's a pretty big band. Try to keep us out. Yeah. That's awesome, actually, Will, because that means bands are looking forward to getting back out on the road. Trust me, they are pushing it. That's awesome. What's nice is I met with a new, so we go through Taproot Managers about once every three years at Atlas, and you kind of have to get the buy-in from the Taproot Manager because they have to organize. I organize all the shows, but they have to sort of organize the 01:17:10.600 --> 01:17:39.420 and have the staff be willing to stay late, like two, three o'clock in the morning on these show nights and stuff. And a new guy, Alec, he's on board. He's like, we're going. We're doing it. We're continuing this. As soon as COVID is clear, shows are happening. So we're probably going to have a pretty big, like, it's probably going to be like Ilsa, Genocide Pact, some pretty big local, like we're going to go strict local, you know, DC love. 01:17:40.600 --> 01:18:10.560 But we've had numerous bands say they want to come back. You know what that means for us, George, right? Breakfast and dinner. Beers, Will butt slaps, and tacos. Oh, yeah. God. My S is going to be sore from all the butt slaps. Yeah. He's been saving them up. You're going to have to schedule Will for my butt because that's a lot of butt slapping. Jesus. All right, Will, do your lightning round. All right. Stacy, are you... 01:18:10.580 --> 01:18:35.280 Are you a little bit familiar with our lightning round? No. Be scared. And then you're perfect for it. Good luck. So lightning round is I will ask you this or that. So I may ask you oranges or apples. You have to pick one. So what do you prefer? Do you want oranges? Do you want apples? And you're not allowed to think about it. You just have to answer. Hence the lightning. 01:18:40.600 --> 01:19:09.480 Yes. Yes, I did. Well, yeah, he is a vanity explainer. Yeah. Or not that anyone couldn't figure out apples and oranges, but it's just more of it. So, Stacey, what you will do then if you will pick either apples or oranges. You can't pick them both. What's funny is your extra explanation is more mansplaining than what I did, by the way. 01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:40.360 We're just fucking tards. Yeah. Dude. Start the machine. All right. You ready? Yes. All right. Coke or Pepsi? Pepsi. Beer or wine? Beer. Ale or lager? I don't know. What's the difference? Lager. All right. COVID-19 or gonorrhea? That was a good one. COVID. 01:19:40.780 --> 01:20:09.160 COVID. Class Zoom or Metalhead Podcast Zoom? I take it back. At least I get to have sex. It's a lot easier to cure, too. Class Zoom or Metalhead Podcast Zoom? Metalhead Podcast Zoom. All right. Paris Mayhew or Trump? Paris. Oh, or? Or. Or. Good answer. 01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:35.720 Toilet paper or bidet? Bidet. Iron Maiden or Judas Priest? Iron Maiden. Missionary or doggy style? Neither. Iron Maiden. You've got to pick one. No, no, that was way more intriguing. That was way more intriguing to answer. It's not wild enough. That kind of narrows it down. Let me introduce you to something called the Norwegian cartwheel. 01:20:40.600 --> 01:21:10.540 this. Metallica's Black Album or Chainsaw Taint Shade? Do I have a taint? Yeah. Just let we all play with this chainsaw. Do you know that chainsaws were invented to assist with childbirth? What? I'm not joking. Go look it up. That's your homework for break. Is that like the Black Album or Chainsaw Taint Shade? 01:21:10.580 --> 01:21:40.560 I'm going with Tange. Thank you. You're the only one to ever pick that, I think. Really? She's the only smart one. Gotta get those kids out of there. Death metal or black metal? Oh, shit. Less Nazis than death metal. Wait, what? There's less Nazis in death metal than black metal. Let me woman-splain it to you, Will. Plague or 01:21:41.860 --> 01:22:10.560 Are these bands? No. Well, actually, plague is. I'm sure they're both. Probably, yeah. Plague. Face masks or pants? Face masks. COVID-19 or chainsaw. Chainsaw. Chainsaw. Chainsaw. Chainsaw. Chainsaw. Chainsaw. Chains 01:22:10.580 --> 01:22:40.520 Yeah, so it's not a euphemism. It's like pretty. But I still get to go to shows. I'll take chainsaw. I think it's just supposed to be a risky procedure. Okay. Morbid Angel or Deicide? Oh, Morbid Angel. ACDC or Led Zeppelin? Fuck, neither. What the fuck? All right. Wow. Wow. I would die on there. I like that. I would die on that hill. Bill Cosby or Harvey Weinstein? What? Jesus Christ. 01:22:43.460 --> 01:23:10.180 You can add Woody Allen to that list. Did you guys watch that? Horrible. Awful. All of them are awful people. Who do I get to kill? Who do I get to kill? Do you want to do F. Mary Kill real quick? No, I just want to kill. We can do F. Mary Kill for one. Hey, did anybody else watch that fucking Woody Allen thing? Not yet. I avoid anything Woody Allen. 01:23:12.440 --> 01:23:40.560 It was the HBO series. I think it's wrapped up now. Allen versus Farrell? Yeah, fuck him, dude. I knew that before, but I know it now. Fuck him, dude. He's a fucking piece of shit. Wait, are you just saying now that you realize that Woody Allen is a piece of shit? Well, no, I knew and I believed. Wait, sorry. I couldn't hear through the chainsaw, but are you literally talking about 01:23:40.640 --> 01:24:10.380 You're just realizing that Woody Allen is a gigantic piece of shit and I would give him a pass because he's a famous movie maker? No, no, no, no. The extent to which because this was what a four or five episode. What extent to which he married and raped his teenage daughter? No. What else do you need? I know. There's shit you don't know, dude. Trust me because you just let that. I don't want to know any more than that. But people did need more. People did need more because he has had a full career and this shit happened. 01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:12.400 He got a pass. 01:24:13.340 --> 01:24:14.640 But he didn't get one from me, Will. 01:24:15.860 --> 01:24:16.080 Anyway. 01:24:16.780 --> 01:24:17.060 Anyway. 01:24:17.250 --> 01:24:17.340 Yeah. 01:24:17.610 --> 01:24:18.080 Are you done yet? 01:24:18.080 --> 01:24:18.800 Do we need more lightning? 01:24:19.440 --> 01:24:20.240 Yeah, we're done. 01:24:22.980 --> 01:24:24.040 Well, that's kind of faded out. 01:24:24.240 --> 01:24:24.540 I know. 01:24:24.880 --> 01:24:26.200 You just like your thunder round, Will. 01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:31.580 You guys started talking about Woody Allen in the middle of the lightning round. 01:24:31.780 --> 01:24:32.620 So, like, well, fuck it. 01:24:32.820 --> 01:24:33.080 I'm done. 01:24:33.700 --> 01:24:34.300 Oh, fair enough. 01:24:34.580 --> 01:24:36.700 I feel like Will's getting soft with that one. 01:24:37.860 --> 01:25:06.780 I am happy to be responsible for bringing that to an end. You're listening to the Metalheads podcast. Self-important elitist asshats. Every one of them. Okay, so let's do our t-shirt and beer check. We're going to start with Stacy. So what are you drinking? What are you wearing? In my Necropanther koozie. I am drinking Dragon's Milk. Ooh, that's good stuff. 01:25:10.180 --> 01:25:32.740 Yeah, it seems pretty metal. I was like, is this appropriate? And I am wearing my botanist t-shirt, which when I bought it, I did not realize that there's like all these eyeballs in the flowers. I'm like, oh, this is kind of cool because now I can like say like to anyone who has the audacity to speak to my face, like eyes down here. 01:25:37.860 --> 01:26:07.820 As she points to her chest for those of you who are listening. Yes. Not much to look at. But that's my beer. That's my shirt. All right. Mark us on. Well, I finished a mead. Not my mead, but it's the Skull Seeker that just came out. And it's aged three months in oak barrels. This is the one they did as a collaboration with the Terminal 01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:37.820 And I have since switched to Super Trooper from Hanakoa, which is a porter with cocoa nibs, coconut and vanilla bean. And I selected this because the girl on this looks like she sings a lot of clean vocals. And I am wearing my Conan Chrom shirt. Because as most of you know, I have fallen into a 01:26:37.840 --> 01:27:07.820 I actually have Conan's father's sword too. I should have brought that actually out, but so there you go. Anyway, is it Matt now? Were you done? I'm done. Yeah. I'm drinking Deep Flux, which is a collaboration between Boulevard and 01:27:07.860 --> 01:27:37.800 and three Floyd's. It is a pale barley wine, ale aged in rye whiskey barrels, and Madaria wine casks. Oh my God. I think I just got a boner when you, when I saw you, I mean, I'm sorry when you talked about that beer. Both, both. Listen to my voice. Well, you get a boner with the wind right now. Well, I also like that you think you got one. Like, hold on. Oh, it was just a spider crawler. 01:27:37.860 --> 01:28:07.820 Oh my gosh, I didn't feel a thing. I thought I felt something. I thought I got excited, but it was just, it was just, yeah, no. And confirm. Can confirm. Following it with this shit. It is also amazing. Drinking it out of my horn. And tonight I'm wearing a, I, in this house, because all my other clothes are in storage. I have my, I have seven shirts. One of them is death. I almost wore that. My, my, my new 01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:37.600 I'll avoid Snuggie, which I drunk camped on the last Bandcamp Friday, and it is nice and warm. And I love it. Excellent. John? All right, where do I start? I've had a few. All right, so I went with the most metal beer ever. The Zombie Dust from Three Foy's. You went to Total Wine down by your house? No, I went to Dominion because I've got a ton of it, but you went to Total Wine, right? Yeah, I should, like, text you ahead of time. 01:28:37.860 --> 01:29:07.060 because you live super close to that total wine. I'm like, I'm going to total wine. Yeah. John, let's meet up and hug with masks on. We'll do like the air hug, like where we're not touching. No, no, I'm going to fucking hug your ass. And the rest of you too. I'm going to hug your ass. I'm going to get on my knees. John, turn around. I'm going to hug your ass. Like my nose. I'm going to motorboat your ass. Stacy. 01:29:08.620 --> 01:29:11.180 I can't tell you how many times I've been at a show. 01:29:12.380 --> 01:29:14.100 If you wanted to motorboat someone's ass. 01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:16.440 Every show. 01:29:16.530 --> 01:29:18.460 Well, that's even more frequent. 01:29:18.530 --> 01:29:18.960 That aside. 01:29:19.520 --> 01:29:20.460 That's even more frequent. 01:29:20.870 --> 01:29:23.720 But I can't tell you how many times I've been at a show at Atlas. 01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:27.440 And I'm sitting there, you know, listening to the band, getting into it. 01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:30.240 And all of a sudden, my ass is just like on fire. 01:29:31.060 --> 01:29:36.580 Because somebody, not naming names, has just come up and smacked me right on the ass. 01:29:37.200 --> 01:30:07.160 One time I thought my phone got busted because my ass got hit so hard. I would just say this is that I love you guys and I get excited to see you. You guys come about once every year. Bullshit. I call bullshit. So when I see you. Well, I go to way more shows than that. You know that. Stop it. Just stop. Stop. He says that. Listen, I'm not going to smack another man's ass and motorboat their ass unless I only see them once a year. If I see them, 01:30:07.200 --> 01:30:37.180 every week, I'm not going to do that. I mean, that's just not something you do that frequently. Which is funny because the one thing that like when I think of our all of us being together decibel, whatever that was, one of the things that always brings me joy and makes me laugh is when I did that to Will walking past him. And then the person that you were talking to, I think, noticed that I did that and asked you like if you did what? What did you do? He slapped your ass. But when you're talking to somebody and I just kept walking past him, 01:30:37.760 --> 01:31:06.740 And I feel like that person was like, did you know who that person was? Just slapped your butt. Hey, who cares? Just giving out free butt slaps. I don't care. By the way, that's the most action any of you fuckers have gotten in 10 years. Well, I remember the first time I had, I tackled him on a bed. Dude, you cracked all the vertebrae in my back. It was like going to the chiropractor. Like you started my weekend off perfectly. Belly to belly suplex right on the hotel bed. All right. 01:31:07.220 --> 01:31:37.140 All right, so I had Zombie Dust. My second drink was a By the Horns, By Birmingham Horn, in my new horn. Yes. What do you guys think of the By the Horns? Pretty great. I think it's awesome. It's better in the horn, by the way. Oh, yeah. Wait, I got a third one because I had to have another one. I don't know. I've never heard of this brewery before. Unani or One Can. Never heard of them. I'm drinking a Quad. 01:31:37.220 --> 01:32:05.780 from them. That's a good brewery. Yeah. Did I say it right? How do they say it? I call it Una Annie. I have no idea actually how it's pronounced. Or just let's pair it down to one and. Right. But it's good. It's a solid quad. Put a quad out there. I'm going to drink it. So you brought an ass out there. Will's going to slab it. He's got a noise in a motor body. And my shirt. Not that anyone gives a shit, but I do. Oh, but the Blackwater Park. I care. I care. I care about that. 01:32:08.320 --> 01:32:36.620 Save it. That's coming up later. Sorry. Okay. Was there an anniversary edition? What are you doing? The droids you're looking for. Yeah. It's ironic because those were the droids they were looking for. Well, I started my night off with the Brimhorn Mead by the horns. 01:32:37.620 --> 01:33:06.320 And, Markisan, you will be super pleased. So I got two of these, and the other one my daughter has confiscated, and she is filling up with different scraps of yarn that's multicolored, and she's going to fill it up, and it's literally sitting on her desk that she uses every day. And she wears her By the Horns t-shirt. You sent me that picture. It's great. Twice a week. Like, it's crazy. And then I'm wearing, 01:33:08.500 --> 01:33:37.180 I literally cannot fucking wait until April. Did you order your album, Will? Yep, I ordered two. I ordered the... Splatter, splatter. And Decibel just put one out, too. I ordered the Decibel one, too, because I'm like, why not? I mean, I was drunk Decibeling. Well, they're on the cover on the next episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hopefully we get a problem before it comes out. You know what's weird? I have to say this about Decibel. Two episodes ago, there's literally like, I looked at it, 01:33:37.220 --> 01:33:41.760 the front cover like there's not a fucking thing in here i want to read like not one thing 01:33:42.540 --> 01:33:44.020 and i can't remember if it was 01:33:46.540 --> 01:33:50.420 converge or i don't know somebody was on the cover i was like i could give a fuck 01:33:53.040 --> 01:33:59.220 yes it was nervosa and it was like everything else in there was like i do not care like i don't even know if i 01:33:59.240 --> 01:34:07.180 even listened to that or read that episode or that issue blah blah blah blah blah blah no no no yes um 01:34:07.200 --> 01:34:36.200 But then this one with the counter, of course, I'm like, oh, my God, I want to read this entire magazine front to back because there's so much cool stuff in it. So anyway, my second beer was Six Point Resin. Oh, nice. Out of Brooklyn. Yeah. It's one of my go to. It's one of my go to IPAs. You know why? Because it's not fucking easy. Yeah. Whatever is left in it, you can see. That's a solid beer. No, it's great. It's awesome. Jay. So I had. 01:34:37.200 --> 01:35:06.980 As usual, I'll have my later. You guys got to watch and eat supper just now, which took, I realized, about four minutes. But it wasn't huge. But I'll show you my supper with you. I had a butternut squash. It was not huge. Oh, nice. You just said that. It was good. I like butternut squash. There was this little grocery store we go to here. It's like my happy place. I bought this on the way home today. So we'll just skip the rest. And then I'm wearing the, this was when I, I remember I had the drunk dial at Nuclear Blast Store the other day and I bought like several hundred dollars worth of records and stuff. 01:35:07.200 --> 01:35:09.920 I don't know if you noticed one of those was typo negative world coming down 01:35:10.080 --> 01:35:16.120 reissue by the way nice and it's got a lot of cool liner notes and remastered level nice but 01:35:16.260 --> 01:35:35.080 anyway I bought seven hundred dollars worth of stuff only because I had gone on to the site to buy this one dumb fucking t-shirt which I did buy this is a Michael Shaker group t-shirt that cost me about three hundred dollars yeah oh I bought it in black and white so there you go but 01:35:37.200 --> 01:36:04.900 I had, you know, it's funny, I only had one Michael Schenker shirt and it was kind of worn out. Now you have 12. George. So I started with a Rough Edges Brewing, what was it called, Quarantine Drip, which was hazy IPA. So that's not even hazy IPA, that is like block out the sun. Stacy got it right, 01:36:05.100 --> 01:36:06.180 It looks like a pina colada, dude. 01:36:06.310 --> 01:36:06.420 Yeah. 01:36:09.100 --> 01:36:11.280 That just looks so unappealing to me. 01:36:11.740 --> 01:36:12.240 It does, yeah. 01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:16.880 I want to walk up to whoever brews that beer and smack them in the face. 01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:18.180 Not on the ass. 01:36:18.400 --> 01:36:21.220 And then gouge out their eyes and skull fuck them. 01:36:21.440 --> 01:36:23.180 Wait, let's Stacy ask her question again. 01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:25.000 Does it drink like a soup? 01:36:26.400 --> 01:36:26.540 Yeah. 01:36:27.020 --> 01:36:28.080 I could have used a spoon. 01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:29.440 Chowder. 01:36:30.060 --> 01:36:31.360 Some oyster crackers, maybe? 01:36:31.470 --> 01:36:31.580 Yeah. 01:36:32.700 --> 01:36:33.680 Pour it through a coffee filter. 01:36:33.940 --> 01:37:03.560 I'm going to send George a Hawaiian shirt for drinking that kind of stuff. But now she's right. She called it the very beginning. It needs an umbrella. Yeah, it was very pineapple. Or not pineapple, grapefruity. You got me pineapple. It was all right. Yeah, I'm pretty easy. You know. Okay. And so now like all the cool kids, I'm drinking Brimming Horns by the Horns dragon fruit mead with vanilla. And I got to tell you. 01:37:03.940 --> 01:37:33.860 It is pretty damn good. Horns up. Yeah. He is. And, uh, it cheers for the guys from Birmingham for taking care of us too. Yeah. I mean, I make an order and that stuff is out the next day or that day. I have to say it was excellent customer service. It was crazy fast when I ordered the, uh, by the horns and it got here. I mean, I'm only a couple hours away from them, but it was still crazy fast. They're doing amazing. 01:37:33.940 --> 01:38:03.480 job. And it was all through Facebook. It was literally like, respond to this Facebook if you want some. And I'm like, and we have your credit card number on file. And it's like, yeah, I talked to what I want a number two package. And like, boom, it's there. I'm like, holy shit. They do that even with their regular orders. If you order actually on site. Yeah. They're great. I just texted J.R. The Skull Seeker. I literally got it in days after they put it out. And you're in Hawaii. You're in fucking Hawaii. Yeah. I think they have thrived during COVID. 01:38:03.580 --> 01:38:33.240 They didn't before, so good for them, man. And it has everything to do with their service, for sure. It's not as good as By the Horns. By the Horns is real good, which, you know, gotta have a shout out to them. I love those guys doing that corroboration. It's magic, man. So good. Because I had the idea for that need in my head, but of course they have to execute it. Yeah, for sure. It came out even better than I imagined it was going to be. But yeah, the Skullseekers is good. And Brimming Horns sent me like three cases of By the Horns. 01:38:34.300 --> 01:39:01.600 I mean, yes, I collaborated with them. It's for my comic, but I didn't expect them to send us. They're just awesome guys. That's still generous, which presumably we'll see them all at Decibo, I assume. Yeah, absolutely. I hope so. Yeah. So I just wanted to mention the one I had on deck as well coming up next because I thought it was kind of cool. It's called actually no. Oh, BC Brewery Hunt Valley. I guess it's a it's called Electric Hammer. 01:39:04.060 --> 01:39:33.280 I think so I'll look at the can in a second but it's a triple IPA and I just thought it looked cool it's like electric hammer that's fucking metal so I'm gonna buy it is it me or just everything tastes better on the horn I don't know my horn has only touched my horn I just said to Jen I said I gotta tell you the biohorns in the in the horn is way better than it was in the glass so I think it breathes just differently so maybe so yeah 01:39:33.320 --> 01:40:01.800 I'm glad everybody got their horns. I'm kind of sad Stacy doesn't have a small horn because we're all like kicking out of them. But I'm sold out. It's okay. What do you set them down in? Is that the idea that you just have to drink it all in one shot because there's nothing to set it down in? So I got this wrought iron holder for it and then I told everybody about it. So yeah, it's iron. It's real nice. So it just goes. 01:40:03.320 --> 01:40:29.060 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got a, I bought a wooden one too. A single wooden plank one to have also. I was talking about that too. Cause it's good for travel. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. All right. I mean, I love my metal heads glass, but I, I think everything just tastes real good out of this horn. So I've been drinking everything, even water. All right. Are you horny baby? 01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:41.900 Stacey you knew this was like eight hour counts right you understood that right 01:40:42.080 --> 01:40:45.920 that I understood what I'm sorry say that again this cast is like eight hours long right 01:40:46.180 --> 01:40:51.920 I've heard that's the word on the street okay yeah we're uh we're two hours into the 01:40:52.760 --> 01:40:57.960 interview portion no wait for any move past the interview yeah we did t-shirt beer check 01:40:59.440 --> 01:41:03.280 give us a little more credit than that well wait what all right sorry 01:41:03.280 --> 01:41:33.080 That's right. T-shirt and beer check. Which went out over 45 minutes. That's next on the list. So we're past it. I got a couple of things to say before we get into the news. PSAs. So first off. They're advertising. First off, I just wanted to let everybody know that we now have a YouTube channel. So for John's friend, Jeff, who keeps telling us that we need to put the stuff on YouTube. It's finally on YouTube. So go. 01:41:33.280 --> 01:41:34.040 to see us too. 01:41:34.440 --> 01:41:35.920 Well, I haven't figured that out yet. 01:41:37.180 --> 01:41:41.000 I think this should be the first video because Stacy did all the makeup and everything. 01:41:41.380 --> 01:41:43.320 I spent a lot of time on this eyeliner. 01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:49.780 Well, so did Necrosexual, which is what started this whole thing because he came on in corpse paint just because of the video. 01:41:49.780 --> 01:41:50.160 Oh, you're Necrosexual. 01:41:50.960 --> 01:41:51.420 Oh, wow. 01:41:51.660 --> 01:41:53.680 And so, yeah. 01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:58.960 It may eventually, if I ever figure out a reasonable way to edit and post this stuff. 01:42:00.040 --> 01:42:29.360 But anyway, and the other thing is, I just wanted to ask everybody that listens to whatever you listen to the podcast through, like rate us or leave us a review of some kind. Do you really want a review? Yes, even if it's like these guys are too fucking long. Do you really want to hurt me? But we haven't gotten any a long time because we don't really ask people to do that. So I thought I would ask because, you know, the more people that review us or leave comments and things like that, 01:42:29.860 --> 01:42:59.360 the more people see it. So, you know. So, my kids watch a lot of YouTube shit and it's like every five seconds is like, hey, subscribe to this video and smash that like button. Smack the like button. Yeah, see, we don't do that. So, this was my first sort of half-assed shitty attempt at doing that. So, go do it. Do it now. Hold on, wait. I reviewed the Metal Eds podcast before I was. George, I can't motorboat half of an ass. You need two cheeks there. All right. Well, next time, 01:42:59.500 --> 01:43:29.340 I'll use the whole ass and you can get busy. If I remember, Marcus's review started with, I cannot confirm that all of these people have mental illnesses, but also we're going to get a lot of these, George. Baba Booey. Yeah, well, most of the YouTube comments so far are these spammy things that I keep having to delete. Yeah, money for Google. No, it's not even that. It's like a couple of letters and a couple of numbers and I Googled it and it's a thing, but. It's QAnon, George. It might mean something. You got to write that shit. 01:43:29.420 --> 01:43:40.720 If you know what would be cool if somebody spammed and just did ads for a chainsaw, that would be fine. 01:43:41.200 --> 01:43:41.980 Oh, that would be cool. 01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:43.480 I might do that. 01:43:43.520 --> 01:43:46.080 Partnership with Skill. 01:43:46.560 --> 01:43:47.440 I'm going to spam us. 01:43:47.740 --> 01:43:48.340 Okay, I'm on it. 01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:50.820 All right, so we're going to move on to the news. 01:44:03.700 --> 01:44:20.980 And the first news item, unfortunately, is that LG Petrov from Entombed passed away, like, what, a week and change ago? He had, like, bile duct cancer. And he was one of those things where he was diagnosed 01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:50.980 like a week ago. I mean, it wasn't that. I was like within the last year. Yeah, but it was pretty quick. It was quick. It was. I've never heard of that. Bile duct cancer. Oh, really? No. Is that a thing? Yeah, apparently. Which is not to detract from the... I'll say this. Here's my statement on this guy. He's not necessarily... And I love him. I mean, so don't get me wrong. He's not necessarily one of a kind, but he was an innovator. He was one of his... He put his door, his foot through some doors first. And 01:44:51.020 --> 01:45:20.940 And those fucking records are great. I mean, and everybody seems to love him. I was going to say a lot of, a lot of musicians from Sweden seem to, he seems to be kind of at the apex for them. A lot of selfies were posted by lots of musicians in the extreme world and they were all so proud to have met him. And you could tell too, they were all with like geeks in their pictures. Like how many people actually from Sweden went and took their pictures at that cross? 01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:22.340 because of them. 01:45:22.980 --> 01:45:23.340 Yeah. 01:45:24.160 --> 01:45:24.960 That's a good question. 01:45:25.660 --> 01:45:26.400 Do you know where that is, John? 01:45:26.580 --> 01:45:27.120 Like where it is? 01:45:27.860 --> 01:45:30.740 I just know that it seems like every band has gone there at least once. 01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:33.500 They're at their point and taken a picture there, it seems like. 01:45:34.620 --> 01:45:37.300 Yeah, no, it's sad to lose them, especially at age 49. 01:45:37.660 --> 01:45:39.920 I mean, he's younger than Jay, you know. 01:45:40.760 --> 01:45:41.760 Jay's a young man. 01:45:42.180 --> 01:45:42.820 Watch out, Jay. 01:45:43.020 --> 01:45:45.260 We joke about him being old, but come on. 01:45:45.380 --> 01:45:46.380 That's not old at all. 01:45:46.420 --> 01:45:46.860 That's not old. 01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:47.600 That's not old at all. 01:45:47.940 --> 01:46:13.860 And I can't overstate how much his music with Entombed influenced metal and what that album, Left Hand Path, it's my number one for the year that it came out. But it's also one of the first albums I heard that really got me into heavy metal, especially death metal. And I got the Dynamic Range vinyl. I know I sent it to you guys. It was like a few days before we passed. 01:46:17.940 --> 01:46:47.840 They had paths. So, you know, to me, he's a metal god and, you know, fuck cancer. Yeah. And, you know, I just, I mean, it's one of the very first metal bands I really got into. And a lot of that had to do with his musicianship and his vocals on those that I'm tuned out. So it sucks. Yeah, I'm glad I got to see him a couple times. We saw him a couple years ago, John and Will, on the Amon of Marth tour with Intoombed AD. 01:46:47.960 --> 01:47:17.900 Yeah. Minus Will almost getting killed. Yeah. Decapitated. Is that the... The night you got hit in the head with the... The garage arm thing? Yeah. Garage arm. Yeah. That sucked. Yeah. We had a good time. It's funny, too, because I bought the Dynamic Range stuff, too, which came out in the last... It's been a while, actually, I thought. Maybe as much as a year. Because I haven't, too. It might have been COVID. And so I was listening to them a lot. 01:47:17.960 --> 01:47:47.680 more in the last year than I had been in a while. And also, I would recommend, by the way, the clandestine live, full live show that came out not that long ago. That was more recent. And I listened to that so many times. And it took, it really took me back. But yeah. So what would you guys say? What is your favorite? Left Hand Path, Clandestine, Wolverine Blues? Wolverine Blues for me. Same. I like clandestine the most. Clandestine for me. Yeah. Wolverine Blues was my first one. Yeah, I always love you first. 01:47:47.960 --> 01:48:17.800 Your first one? Yeah. Wolverine Blues? Yeah. Why'd you even check them out the second time? Because it's an awesome album. It's like their black album. So? I like the black album, bitch. Oh my god. That's because nothing else matters. It got rid of the chainsaw. Okay. All right. Here we go. By the way, on Clandestine, there is a song called Evil. 01:48:18.640 --> 01:48:46.180 Yep. I've got one of those. I have to know. I know it's sad, but we're kind of moving on. I need to know from Stacey, Black Album. What are your thoughts? Black Album? Yeah. From Metallica's Black Album? Awful. Oh, yeah. There you go. She already chose the Chainsaw Chainshare. Yeah. I'm not a Metallica fan much. You know, Stacey, you said Black Album as if like maybe you might have mentioned Spinal Tap there for a second. 01:48:47.940 --> 01:49:17.740 I just want to make sure we're all in the same page. That's final tap for life. Yeah, there you go. That's the real black album. I will say as a graphic designer, my passion in that field is to take existing logos and to manipulate them to look fucked up. And so, George, I got your text in the morning in the kitchen about his passing. And I looked at my fridge and it is an LG. I'm like, there has to be some way to turn that into a tribute to LG Petrov. 01:49:17.940 --> 01:49:47.360 So I started that on Friday. I didn't get a lot of headway because of kids and all that fun stuff. But, you know, it just seemed like time to do something for him. That's a good idea. I like that. That's really cool, Matt. Interestingly enough, Matt, do you know what LG originally stands for? Well, so I kind of researched the logo as I did it and there's the whole life's good, but I felt like the, what I read was not it. No, but it was the names of the people who started the company. Nope. No. Enlighten me. 01:49:47.940 --> 01:50:17.380 So LG is Lucky Gold Star. So it was two companies, two Korean companies, two Korean companies. I'm sorry. They came together a long time ago. You're right. To form Lucky Gold Star. And then their motto became, in America, life is good, because obviously they're Korean and whatever. But anyway, Lucky Gold Star. LG is Lucky Gold Star. That was the most dad thing you've ever done in this show. 01:50:21.520 --> 01:50:23.900 My kids have been in this room and like 01:50:24.880 --> 01:50:29.380 espousing their metal knowledge. I'm fascinated by that shit. So I mean, totally. 01:50:30.060 --> 01:50:34.620 But I feel like when you look at that logo, it's clearly it's also there's an LG in the logo, 01:50:34.720 --> 01:50:38.580 but it's also a human face. And so my initial thought is you spin that and you turn that into like 01:50:39.180 --> 01:50:42.760 you turn that into LG singing, you know, and you'd like there's like an L, 01:50:42.760 --> 01:50:45.400 but you turn that into an upside down cross and there's all sorts of fun stuff. 01:50:47.740 --> 01:51:15.240 I had to go to the Verizon store to get a new phone. And the LG phone, the Velvet, was ridiculously $600 cheaper than the Samsung phone. And so I was there for whenever you buy a new phone, you're there for six fucking hours. And I had this debate with the guy like, do you know what LG? He's like, life is good. I'm like, no, it's Lucky Gold Star. Look it up. He's like, no way, man. I work in the Verizon store. I know everything. 01:51:15.380 --> 01:51:45.120 I'm like, look it up. He's like, oh shit, man. Six hours for a phone. Geez, I'm glad I just get an iPhone and it just ships to me and I pick it up off the front porch. I take it out of the box. I turn it on. I punch in a code and off I go. You know? Anyway, LG Petrov, raising my horn to him. Clandestine, baby. Clandestine. God, it was a great album. All right. 01:51:45.380 --> 01:52:09.780 So next news item. I thought this was interesting. Bill Ward admits that he no longer has the chops to play with Sabbath, which is what they said when they did not include him on the last tour was that he did not have the chops. And he's like, fuck, I have the chops. And now he's like, yeah, I'll have the chops. And he like within a day or two of that news, he also announced an autobiography, which should be interesting. 01:52:11.740 --> 01:52:41.620 Yeah, I mean, he turned 73 this year, so that makes perfect sense to me. Going on tour at that age seems pretty scary. Charlie Watson's still around. Yeah, he is. So what's interesting about that is that he specifically said, like, he can't tour. He could probably play on an album and play a show, but he doesn't have the stamina to do a whole tour. So if you really read into it. Oh, no, they buried the lead, Will, because he said that he'd love to do a studio album. 01:52:41.720 --> 01:53:11.700 Right, exactly. That's my whole point. That's my whole point, yeah. He could do an album. He can maybe do a show, but he can't do a tour. I don't know if you remember this, though, but this was not that long ago, maybe a year or two ago. He announced he was doing some shows with some band thing he has, and it's really all about him, which is fine, but I mean, it was like him and some young kids or something. This was right when the whole sort of I'd still have the chops thing was going on. Anyway, they get ready to do the show in a week or 01:53:11.740 --> 01:53:41.680 They canceled him because he had heart attacks. Bill likes to have heart attacks. He doesn't have the chops anymore. I'm sure he doesn't. You're right. He's 73. He's 73. 73. Come on. You're past retirement age. I barely have the chops to this podcast. I wonder how angry that book will be. I think he's a nice guy, so I don't know it'll be a real angry book. Angry wouldn't be very British. No. Yeah. I don't think it'll be too angry. 01:53:41.760 --> 01:54:09.500 I agree, Jay, because he did say he wants to do a studio album with him. Do you think he'll do an interview with Oprah? But he was also mercilessly picked on. He was Black Sabbath's Jason Neustadt. They used to set him on fire and shit. So we'll see what he has to say. I think he's a nice guy. I follow him on some platform, maybe Facebook or something. He puts up my stuff. 01:54:11.740 --> 01:54:41.520 book. Cool. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I just realized I didn't do my shirt. Not that it matters, but. What's your shirt? The Sisters of Mercy Floodland album cover. They are not departed or gone. You could have skipped that, by the way. I know. I just happened to look up and go, oh, hey, I didn't do that. I always forget. I always forget to do that thing. So anyway. I have that album, so don't feel bad. Oh, good. Nah, nobody likes them. So the last news item is. 01:54:41.720 --> 01:55:09.980 I just thought this was interesting. Dee Snider's new solo album will include a duet with George Corpse Grinder Fisher from Cannibal Corpse. I am a huge Dee Snider fan. I'm a Twisted Sister fan. He was one of my biggest heroes growing up. You know, it was it was inspirational to me the time that he whipped his hair in my face and poked me in the eye and I'm like, but, you know, he's got some big pubes. 01:55:13.500 --> 01:55:14.960 Speaking from personal experience. 01:55:17.560 --> 01:55:18.220 There you go. 01:55:22.300 --> 01:55:23.460 I'm not a big fan of. 01:55:23.460 --> 01:55:23.940 You all know. 01:55:24.670 --> 01:55:25.640 I work at a glory hole. 01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:29.160 You win George. 01:55:30.080 --> 01:55:30.560 Well let's see. 01:55:31.900 --> 01:55:33.320 I told you he was going to bring it up. 01:55:36.620 --> 01:55:37.040 Amazing. 01:55:38.820 --> 01:55:40.320 So anyway while I'm a big 01:55:40.400 --> 01:56:08.020 I'm a Dee Snider fan. His solo stuff has not exactly been great, but I do want to hear this because this should be interesting. I just did a quick scan of Twisted Sister's songs to try to find those, and I know that God knows what they're going to do, but to see if there was a Twisted Sister song that would work, and you can't stop rock and roll is the song Like a Knife in the Back. You should do that. 01:56:09.060 --> 01:56:38.120 I feel like this is either going to be like the absolute worst thing Corpse Griner has ever done or the best thing D Snyder has ever done. It could be both. I'm not a big D fan or a Twisted Sister fan, but I'm... Then to hell with you! Well, no. But I'm curious about this track because I definitely want to hear what that's going to sound like. I mean, I think he has a good voice. I've just never really been into a band or him. So, yeah. 01:56:38.480 --> 01:57:08.460 I like what he stands for I think Twisted Sisters like can't be fun it would it would never be like oh it's my favorite band ever kind of thing but well it was in the 80s you know before Metallica came along right that you don't like them either but anyway you're such an asshole who the fuck is this girl doesn't like Metallica 01:57:08.500 --> 01:57:37.620 I want to know what it sounds like because it's supposed to be a heavy album. Yeah. Well, Jamie Jost is producing it, I think. He introduced the last one. I was not impressed with the last one either. I didn't listen to it myself. There's nothing to hear. Maybe it's me. Maybe I want to hear George's clean vocals and Dee Snider growl. It's just me. I'm sorry. I think if Corpse Grinder were to do clean vocals, it would be like he'd bust out some Pavarotti. 01:57:42.420 --> 01:58:07.220 I would love to see that. Switch it up because everyone's expecting one thing, do the other. That would be great. It won't happen. I also added one more news item and that is just that next month is the podcast's seventh anniversary. What the hell? Congratulations, y'all. That's amazing. 01:58:08.480 --> 01:58:37.820 In those seven years, we got seven listeners. Yeah. Every single one of them is on here right now. Yeah. So if we get a listener, we invite them on. Seven years. Yeah. In case I forget about it next month, I wanted to mention it this month. So who's been on for seven years besides you, George? No one. George. No, George. I've been on for six, I think. 01:58:39.600 --> 01:58:41.160 I've been on since 2015. 01:58:41.960 --> 01:58:42.080 Yeah. 01:58:44.060 --> 01:58:45.060 Jay's before that. 01:58:45.620 --> 01:58:45.740 Well, 01:58:46.080 --> 01:58:48.340 Jay came on after me, 01:58:49.040 --> 01:58:50.320 but he was the first to stay. 01:58:51.540 --> 01:58:51.700 Yeah. 01:58:51.960 --> 01:58:52.820 Jay became a regular. 01:58:52.860 --> 01:58:53.040 Yeah. 01:58:53.180 --> 01:58:53.400 Yeah. 01:58:53.420 --> 01:58:53.640 Yeah. 01:58:53.860 --> 01:58:54.760 And I actually, 01:58:54.940 --> 01:58:57.740 one of the episodes that I listened to and getting ready to come on. 01:58:58.740 --> 01:59:00.700 Cause I originally came on for catatonic society. 01:59:00.740 --> 01:59:01.040 It was, 01:59:01.240 --> 01:59:01.400 um, 01:59:01.600 --> 01:59:02.700 I listened to your episode. 01:59:02.800 --> 01:59:02.900 Well, 01:59:04.320 --> 01:59:04.420 Oh, 01:59:04.680 --> 01:59:05.420 and I was like, 01:59:05.460 --> 01:59:32.700 I'm going to go check out the show. And I was like, wow. Man, Will's a dick. James is like, that guy likes chainsaws. I kind of like chainsaws too. I can't believe I got rid of the chainsaw. Share a chainsaw fetish. I'm walking through the house with a chainsaw. My wife and my kids are like, what are you doing, dad? Hey, Will. You know what you need to do now? You need to get a leather face and chase your kids around the house. I know, I do. 01:59:36.420 --> 02:00:04.760 All right, let's move on to new releases. First up, we have the new EP from Arctic Sleep called By the Horns, which you may have heard a few times already on this episode. Marcus, take it away. Yeah, I mean, Arctic Sleep did two songs for my comic book, By the Horns. 02:00:04.800 --> 02:00:33.880 And, you know, it's like a lifelong dream for me. You know, it's a bucket list item for me. I've always obviously loved metal and I love writing comics and I've wanted to put those two together. And when I already put out a comic book, I want it to be an event because I never know. It could be the last thing I ever fucking do. You know, we were just talking about LG dying at 49. So, you know, you never know what's going to happen. So, Keith D, people who listen to the show should know him. 02:00:33.900 --> 02:01:03.880 He's been a guest on here. He does all of our little cuts in between sections because he's got that deep baritone voice and they're hilarious. He's just a phenomenal musician. I love Arctic Sleep. Their last album was really high on my year-end list. So when I was doing By the Horns and I decided, I think I want to try to do a soundtrack for this. He's the first person I thought of. I just thought that his music with Arctic Sleep, I mean, he does a lot of different 02:01:03.900 --> 02:01:33.380 styles of music in different bands. But I just thought Arctic Sleep would fit the comic book really well. And so I contacted him about it and he was all for it. Just I really loved working with that guy, you know. And Matt. Matt is also part of the By the Horn soundtrack as well. Because, you know, I have a lot of ideas for designs, but I'm not a designer. You know, I think I have a good sense for art. I'm the writer for the comic book. 02:01:33.900 --> 02:02:03.320 I do some drawings, but I just don't know that much about design. I have a lot of ideas, but Matt, that's what he does. And gave him a bunch of ideas, and he was able to design the cover for us, which I think it came out amazing. So yeah, but I love the songs on it too. I don't know how much I want to tell you about this, but so I came up with the song titles for it. Because Keith, he wanted the song titles, 02:02:03.380 --> 02:02:33.340 before he actually writes the music because it helps him to write he wanted to know about the comic book i sent him the issue um talked to him we had lengthy conversations about the character and everything because he wanted to get in the headspace of the of the characters that are in the in the book so i came up with the titles for it because i wanted to do one that was kind of like from the lead character's perspective where she's out to get revenge on unicorns but then also have a second track that was kind of from the unicorns perspective 02:02:33.380 --> 02:03:02.520 And that one's called Maybe Magic Won't Die a Horrible Death Today. And so he kind of ran with that. Originally, I was going to do it as a split, but then I just decided I thought maybe it would be better if Arctic Sleep would use both songs. So yeah, and it came out great. It came out great. And Keith is really cool. He would send me the demos and ask my input for it. So, you know, I gave a lot of input to it. 02:03:03.380 --> 02:03:32.260 And like at the beginning of Blade Through Your Heart, it has the strings in it, you know? And the original track he did had a lengthy string section. And then the second one he did, it kind of, he cut it. And it was, there was hardly any of that. I was like, you need to put that back. It kind of, I like the strings in it because it establishes the mood. You know, it sets the tone for the whole song. And so he did that. So I really enjoyed just working with music. 02:03:32.340 --> 02:04:02.260 I don't know how musically inclined I am. I used to sing when I was a little, you know, teenager. But yeah, I just, I clearly am really excited about this because you get to put out an album for your comic book and, you know, a little EP. So hopefully people like it. You know, we've gotten a lot of orders for it and people seem to really dig this off. So. Yeah. And Markson, I remember when you sent me the demos as a kind of inspiration working on, you're like, dude, these are fucking amazing. 02:04:02.340 --> 02:04:32.300 Of course, in my mind, I made that mental, like, these are obviously amazing. I put on like, Jesus, these are fucking amazing. Like, you know, and we had just had them on for Arctic sleep, not that like terribly long before that, just thinking like, holy shit, like, that was good stuff. So yeah. Stacy, did you listen to this? I did. I loved it. I thought it was, I don't know if this is something you want to hear. 02:04:32.360 --> 02:05:02.320 I thought it was so pretty. That's Arctic Sleep. Yeah. It was gorgeous. I really enjoyed it. Well, that's why I wanted Arctic Sleep to do the soundtrack because he has such an emotional quality to it. His last album was basically an ode to his cat that passed away. And I just really connected to the emotional music that he 02:05:02.340 --> 02:05:04.300 It creates just the feeling of his music 02:05:04.620 --> 02:05:04.700 and 02:05:06.650 --> 02:05:08.380 the comic has that same quality 02:05:08.570 --> 02:05:10.500 so that's why I just thought it would be a perfect fit 02:05:10.600 --> 02:05:12.060 and I think the songs really 02:05:12.640 --> 02:05:14.600 convey that, you know, I think they fit 02:05:15.140 --> 02:05:16.820 the comic book really, really well 02:05:17.160 --> 02:05:18.680 and I also wanted it because 02:05:18.690 --> 02:05:20.760 the comic book, I designed it 02:05:20.840 --> 02:05:21.180 to be 02:05:22.520 --> 02:05:24.440 something that I think more of an 02:05:25.520 --> 02:05:26.400 larger audience 02:05:27.000 --> 02:05:28.700 could get into too, that they would be 02:05:28.700 --> 02:05:30.900 able to identify with this fantasy book 02:05:31.680 --> 02:06:00.860 as opposed to my last book, which I think was a little bit more niche, a little bit crazier. So I wanted to get a band who really could kind of cross the boundaries. That's metal, but also crosses into indie rock and little 90s rock in there. And, you know, Keith killed it. And I just, I love talking to that guy so much. We actually had a celebration the day the record actually released, which is not that long ago, a couple of weeks ago, where we just went on. 02:06:00.920 --> 02:06:28.720 and just talked for hours and hours. So, you know, being able to do that with him and just have that connection with somebody who makes music has a similar background in creating that I do in comics. A lot of the stuff in the music and comics parallel, and I like discussing that because while it's similar, clearly we're doing completely different things. 02:06:29.780 --> 02:06:57.380 But then also to work with Matt on it as well. It's just like, I can't imagine a better project, you know, just all these great people and friends coming together to make this awesome product. And I think it came out awesome. We got the three different colored vinyls, and I went all out on that and created, I even created a record company for it because I'm like, I might as well do that. So I'm really stoked. 02:06:57.460 --> 02:07:26.940 So thanks for putting it on the list here for news. Of course. And for buying. Yeah, of course. It's special. Arctic sleep is cool, but to be perfectly honest, I think Keith's chopping mall would have been appropriate for unicorn killing as well. Just saying. Molds, you know, buy a unicorn spraying cheese from its horn, something or other. Anyway. 02:07:27.480 --> 02:07:57.340 What was it? Mauled by a bear. I don't even remember the time. Scalding cheese shooting at his eyes. Yeah. There was scalding cheese involved. He's immensely talented and just a really cool dude. And I'm just amazed by the songs that he put together for this. And I mean, I knew he would do an amazing job on it, of course. But, you know, it's just really personal to me because we spent so much time together working on it. It's something I'm always going to remember. Like, I did this. Yeah. We did it together, you know. 02:07:57.460 --> 02:08:27.300 And if anybody wants the record, we still have copies of it. You can go to skullfracturerecords.com, skullfracturerecords.bandcamp.com, arcticsleep.bandcamp.com. Keith's almost sold out, I think, in the orange vinyl, but we still have blue vinyl, and there's purple vinyl for it, too. Have you ever seen Forrest Gump? How was it a comic? All the different kinds of shrimp? Yes. Anyway. So next up, we have The Crown and their 11th album. 02:08:29.460 --> 02:08:57.300 I know there's a lot of love for this album on the podcast. For sure, man. You know, I didn't, I know these guys have been around forever, but I didn't know about them. And then maybe I'd heard of them, but then I didn't really pay attention until last year's Cobra Speed Venom, which was a good record. And this one I think is better even. It's heavier than Cobra Speed Venom was. And that one, I was on, I think that was on my list and I think Markison's list. Anyway, 02:08:58.720 --> 02:09:27.380 I'm somebody pissed these guys off this year dude it must be COVID or something they're like fuck it this this is fucking visceral start to finish so good listen Jeff Hanneman tribute is it quite literally or yeah like track number two I think is a tribute to him oh I didn't know like a you know doing it in the vein of Jeff Hanneman oh I see I see I mean I've spun this record every day since we got the promo 02:09:27.420 --> 02:09:57.340 It's a venomous, heavy as fuck hammer truck of bruising death. I think it's their best album, and that's saying something, because this band has been at the game for a really long time. It is fucking awesome. I love it. Next we have I Hate God's new album, A History of Nomadic Behaviors, their sixth album. I'm kind of happy that we got this, because, you know, 02:09:57.420 --> 02:10:24.740 Now, a few years ago, Mike Williams was maybe not going to be around anymore, but he got a liver transplant. And I can't believe I was reading like an interview with him and it was like 2017 or 2018. I was like, I swear it was like last year, but it's been like three, four years already. So time flies, I guess, but I'm glad he's still with us. I think it's a great album. I don't know. Anybody else listen to it? 02:10:25.840 --> 02:10:46.740 I thought it was great too, George. And the music sounds like a fat sludge punch to the gut. And Mike Williams, I mean, he seems like he put some extra snarl on his vocals. I thought it was really good. And I should mention the album was produced by Sanford Parker, who I just had the pleasure of interviewing as a guest host on the Dead Letter Omissions podcast. 02:10:47.620 --> 02:10:48.360 We'll be looking forward to that. 02:10:49.800 --> 02:10:54.880 Yeah, and I asked a question about production and I name dropped you, George. 02:10:56.520 --> 02:10:59.540 Did you call me a little bitch and say that I 02:10:59.540 --> 02:11:00.140 Of course not. No. 02:11:00.400 --> 02:11:00.980 I would never do that. 02:11:01.080 --> 02:11:02.000 I would never do that. 02:11:03.060 --> 02:11:03.340 Yeah, yeah. 02:11:03.540 --> 02:11:07.000 No, you're a huge bitch, but I didn't say that because I'm respectful. 02:11:08.280 --> 02:11:10.820 But yeah, I love going on the Dead Letter of Omissions podcast. 02:11:11.140 --> 02:11:16.740 So, I mean, shout out to Steve, Maggie, Jeremy. 02:11:17.240 --> 02:11:18.080 Thanks for having me on. 02:11:18.620 --> 02:11:23.000 I had a blast of hanging out, talking around metal, and interviewing Sanford, who, you know, 02:11:23.040 --> 02:11:51.880 He lives in Chicago and has produced a lot of great Chicago bands as well as all over the world. Does he still have the pork chops? He didn't. He had a full beard. I think he had a full beard actually. Very nice. All right. So this next album, I googled how to pronounce it, or rather the band name. Fua. Fua. I think that's what it is. Really? Yeah. Did he just get punched? Yeah. 02:11:53.040 --> 02:12:21.580 It's kind of like, do you like this band? It makes it better somehow. It's awesome. The album is two, and it's the second album from a Scottish black metal band. It's the guy from, say it, John? Sore. Sore. Sore. All right. What happened there? What happened there? Everyone went dead for a second there. 02:12:22.800 --> 02:12:52.040 We were thinking. We were waiting for Will to unmute. Oh, yeah, it's Soar. No, I know. I saw that he was unmuting and I was waiting to see what he was going to say. And he just. Well, that's the fastest he's ever. I think you all fucking said. Well, I just I watched I just watched the spelling bee episode of Letterkenny. So I was waiting for him to spell it and re-pronounce it. Letterkenny, good. Well, John, what did you think of this album? I like this one a lot more than the first one, personally, because I think it sounds a lot better. 02:12:52.660 --> 02:13:22.620 And I find it interesting that he just remastered all the Soar albums and just re-released them all. So maybe he's spending more time in the studio. And that's not a knock on the earlier stuff. I just think he's probably doing that. I like it. I enjoy it. It has that second wave black metal feel to it, but it's got his touch on it. So. Yeah, I thought it was really good. Black metal. I think the sense of melody on it was really good. I dug the vocal harmonies on songs like Endless 02:13:28.480 --> 02:13:31.460 I don't think you can go wrong if you like this kind of black metal 02:13:32.640 --> 02:13:35.800 Annie Marshall Will and I met him because he played 02:13:36.180 --> 02:13:39.780 Sora played at Atlas in like 152 degree weather 02:13:40.240 --> 02:13:42.560 when we saw them and they were awesome 02:13:43.060 --> 02:13:46.720 that is a fucking total lie it was 154 02:13:47.320 --> 02:13:50.620 yeah and not only that I think Will would agree with me 02:13:50.620 --> 02:14:20.580 They might have played the longest show ever at Atlas because at one point I was like, okay, I got to cut out of here. This is I didn't leave, but I was like, wow, this is long. If you remember, the power kept going out. Yeah, it was a long night. Yeah, and I had to sit back. I had to go behind the stage. Because it's days of change, yeah. Yeah, yeah, blah, blah. We talked about it before in this podcast. But it was a really, it was a fun, actually, it was a really fun week because I think, I don't know if George, if you came down. We did three shows. I think I was sick. 02:14:20.620 --> 02:14:50.340 that week. Yeah, three shows and three nights. And it was like the worst was Chemist at the Songbird. Yeah, I had tickets to that, but I was sick. It was two mold at Atlas. And every night, every day was like 100 plus in the area. It was just horrible. And it was just a ton of fun. It was glorious. It was so much fun. So, yeah. But Marcus, just to summarize, I like this album a lot. Me too. Me too. There's a lot of, man, 02:14:50.620 --> 02:15:17.460 This year is shaping up to be really great in all different genres. Black metal in particular, I think. By the way, anyone look at the cover to this album? Yeah. Did you notice that there's one guy on a horse and the other guys are playing drums in the winter? Yes. It's pretty badass. It is cool, yeah. All right. So our last new release, I'm going to fuck this name up, 02:15:20.660 --> 02:15:50.600 Needham. Yeah. Yeah. And their fifth album, Solar Paroxysm. I say there, but it's actually just one dude. This is a West Coast black metal album. It is the latest and it is the greatest, at least as far as I'm concerned. But don't take my word for it. By the way, these last two albums came out yesterday. Yeah. So I don't know if you've looked at the, I'm sure you've looked at the, 02:15:50.640 --> 02:16:20.480 the Facebook comments on our new releases for Friday. But Dan Clanchar had a particularly interesting comment about this album. Clanchar. Don't say Clanchar. Clanchar. Cladgencar. Don't say Cladgencar. Say Cladgencar. He said their latest is a delightful album that's worthy of the bukkake treatment it's been getting all across the internets. I can't agree more, Dan. Can't agree more. 02:16:20.620 --> 02:16:45.700 Yeah, it's good. It's great. George does love his bukkake. I mean, it's, it's, it's gorgeously constructed cosmic black metal and it just has a gigantic sound to it. So we had the promo. I really dig it. Yeah. We had the promo and it sounded good, but I bought it on man. You said the two things that are, are music to George's ears. Black and bukkake. 02:16:50.620 --> 02:16:52.320 But I would also say too that 02:16:54.179 --> 02:16:56.080 I Void Hanger's been chilling it, man. 02:16:56.440 --> 02:16:59.179 That record company's been chilling it for a couple years now. 02:16:59.400 --> 02:17:01.480 A lot of their records have been on my list. 02:17:02.219 --> 02:17:03.960 Yeah, they've been represented more and more. 02:17:04.000 --> 02:17:07.000 It's funny, Marcus, because last year they seemed to disappear on our list 02:17:07.230 --> 02:17:08.880 from the previous year when we all had them, 02:17:09.019 --> 02:17:10.200 and they're back this year again. 02:17:11.160 --> 02:17:14.160 It's like they've got to reinvest in their music. 02:17:14.599 --> 02:17:16.160 Well, hey, it was COVID, man. It was a weird year. 02:17:16.660 --> 02:17:20.599 By the way, I'd like to interrupt this broadcast 02:17:20.620 --> 02:17:48.660 to share with you. Wow, you can't see it. Those are my scheduled appointments for vaccination. Yay! Good job, old man. Just did it now. I was like, I'm not interested in what these people are saying. I'm going to make an appointment to save my life. Yeah. I'm glad it was that easy. Has it been hard for people around you? It is in Virginia. California is a mixed bag. I actually think we have a lot of vaccine. 02:17:50.599 --> 02:18:20.559 is that just as you see in the news, minority communities are, it's harder to get it through to minority communities for multiple, probably fully racist reasons. Which is ridiculous since it affects minorities more. Fuck yeah, that's right. Hey Jay, also in California, you have the idea or the problem of missing vaccines, like 25 million of them, you know, so. But I have friends who have gotten it by waiting around at the end of the day, like they tell you to do. So it's out there, but. Right. But, and I got the education. 02:18:21.420 --> 02:18:22.639 Bullshit thing. So yeah, 02:18:23.580 --> 02:18:25.519 I'm going to get my shots. Educator Bullshit thing. Nice. 02:18:25.700 --> 02:18:27.900 It's not bullshit. It's just that I'm not really an educator. 02:18:28.130 --> 02:18:29.000 Right. Right. Yeah. 02:18:29.370 --> 02:18:30.900 Hey, you're educating us on metal. 02:18:31.900 --> 02:18:32.460 Thanks, Stacey. 02:18:32.980 --> 02:18:33.719 No, they really are. 02:18:34.820 --> 02:18:35.400 In any case. 02:18:35.490 --> 02:18:40.320 Stacey, you left for a little bit, probably to re-tranquilize your kids, 02:18:40.460 --> 02:18:44.019 but I was wondering what you thought of the FUA and the Mericognitum. 02:18:44.139 --> 02:18:45.019 Did you listen to those albums? 02:18:46.059 --> 02:18:47.880 I haven't gotten to the Mericognitum yet. 02:18:48.179 --> 02:18:49.760 I'm passing on the FUA. 02:18:50.660 --> 02:18:56.219 because he um i don't i know you guys don't want to talk politics or 02:18:56.420 --> 02:19:19.800 whatever just do it go for it that's we can talk about anything he's got a he's got a sketchy past and from what i i know he's never really come forward to denounce it in any way and they're still kinds of kind of run in circles that are not are not the best either um i think a lot of the stuff he's done kind of flies 02:19:19.920 --> 02:19:48.400 I know the radar as it does a lot of times because people have gotten really good at being sort of crypto and plausible deniability about things. But yeah, I can't support it. What did he do? So he had a project called Ask YouVille. And I think it was one of his earlier sort of projects. 02:19:48.480 --> 02:20:17.420 and he was much younger when he did this but there is a song on his album on one of those Esquivel albums called White Wolves and it's just full of dog whistles it's a lot of like blood on soil um black sun black sun kind of things yeah and it's it's in in the context it was also released on um I forgot the name of the label but absurd's label you you put all of those things together and you're like 02:20:18.439 --> 02:20:19.640 No, you're a Nazi. 02:20:21.739 --> 02:20:26.960 But if he did that when he was younger, you don't think he has a chance to move past that? 02:20:27.220 --> 02:20:27.700 Absolutely. 02:20:28.540 --> 02:20:35.400 And if you can come forward and say, like, I did that shit when I was younger and I was dumber. 02:20:35.660 --> 02:20:37.780 Yeah, and this was dumb and I want to move past this. 02:20:37.800 --> 02:20:39.080 I'm like, all for forgiveness. 02:20:39.420 --> 02:20:40.060 Darkthrone did that. 02:20:41.100 --> 02:20:44.300 There's no incentive for change if you can't forgive people. 02:20:44.660 --> 02:20:46.400 Not to mention, there are a million 02:20:47.340 --> 02:20:48.820 plus guilt-free metal bands 02:20:48.880 --> 02:20:49.900 you can listen to out there. 02:20:50.520 --> 02:20:52.680 Exactly. Don't have to hold on for grim death. 02:20:53.060 --> 02:20:55.240 So I'm like that too. 02:20:55.480 --> 02:20:57.340 I'm just like, sorry buddy. 02:20:58.140 --> 02:20:59.040 I didn't know that. 02:20:59.760 --> 02:21:01.900 What were we talking about? Woody Allen earlier? 02:21:02.560 --> 02:21:02.960 Yeah. 02:21:03.340 --> 02:21:03.440 Yeah. 02:21:03.440 --> 02:21:05.340 Or Kevin Spacey or whoever the fuck. 02:21:05.640 --> 02:21:06.640 I don't have to waste my time. 02:21:07.300 --> 02:21:08.880 But you like Miracognetum, right? 02:21:09.520 --> 02:21:10.340 I do. I do. I do. 02:21:10.660 --> 02:21:10.780 Yeah. 02:21:11.140 --> 02:21:13.520 And actually, so Miracognetum, Spectral Lore, 02:21:13.820 --> 02:21:43.400 A lot of the bands that I sort of find now come from these like anti-fascist black metal groups that I'm in on Facebook. It's really silly, but they both have a presence in those things. Not silly at all. Not silly at all. Yeah, I think I started to say earlier that we got the promo for Solar Paroxysm and that was good. But when I bought it on Bandcamp, it was like 24K, you know, 02:21:43.720 --> 02:21:45.820 24-bit, sorry, 24-bit, 44K. 02:21:46.819 --> 02:21:50.640 And the high-res audio is even more incredible. 02:21:50.900 --> 02:21:52.480 So I can't recommend that enough. 02:21:53.600 --> 02:21:56.480 All right, let us move on to Metal Thunderdome. 02:21:57.000 --> 02:21:58.840 John, it was your turn to pick. 02:21:59.020 --> 02:22:01.020 What did you pick for us this time? 02:22:01.420 --> 02:22:05.640 As we talked about last time, I had two albums already picked, 02:22:05.980 --> 02:22:09.940 but Matt had beat me to the punch by going with Massadam versus Gojira. 02:22:10.100 --> 02:22:11.560 So I had to come up with something new. 02:22:12.280 --> 02:22:40.520 And I decided that I wanted to do two things. One was to pick a genre we haven't really or subgenre we haven't hit too often or talk about too much. And I wanted to go with some classics. So stuff from like when Jay and I were like 10, which would be like, I don't know, before color TV. So I decided I wanted also to make sure that Will actually knew these albums too, because he doesn't like most of my music. 02:22:40.600 --> 02:23:09.380 So, no, I really wanted people just to be able to know the albums, but to do something classic that we haven't hit on. So I went with Doom Metal, because we don't really discuss Doom Metal as much as we used to. And I wanted to go with some of the early bands, not Sabbath, post-Sabbath stuff. So I went with Troublesome Nine versus Candlemas' Epicus, Dumicus, Metalcus. So... Metallicus. For those of us that like Metallica. 02:23:10.659 --> 02:23:39.940 I just thought this would be a good matchup because these are two of the early bands that kind of started the traditional doom sound of the 80s. I think Candlemas probably gets more props than Trouble does, even though Trouble's before them. And I think they're both extremely influential on the scene for different reasons. And I think both of their debuts are outstanding albums. They're both my favorite albums by both bands. So, and the interesting thing about both of them is that they're in the top 02:23:39.960 --> 02:24:09.300 five of Decibles, top 100 Doom albums of all time. So I figured it would be a really cool Thunderdome to kind of put them together, given how important both those albums were for different reasons. So I mean, I didn't think the Thunderdome could get any harder, John, but you did it. You accomplished it. Holy fuck. Yeah, I try. I've only this is only my second one, but I always feel like if I'm going to pick, I want to pick a theme. 02:24:10.419 --> 02:24:13.400 So the title of my one this time is 02:24:13.750 --> 02:24:17.800 The Battle of the Skulls. Now, obviously, Candlemas will win because their skull is cool on their album 02:24:17.870 --> 02:24:20.660 and Troubles, but nonetheless, they have skulls on their album. 02:24:21.920 --> 02:24:23.280 The Battle of the Skulls. 02:24:23.740 --> 02:24:25.040 All right, well, this is a hard one. 02:24:25.800 --> 02:24:27.000 I'm glad I don't have to go first. 02:24:27.240 --> 02:24:29.820 I mean, I've made my choice, but I'm waiting to see if I'm out there. 02:24:30.040 --> 02:24:31.380 Stacey goes first, yeah. 02:24:31.680 --> 02:24:32.000 No! 02:24:32.200 --> 02:24:33.640 Yes, the guest goes first. 02:24:35.520 --> 02:24:36.120 That's true. 02:24:37.020 --> 02:24:37.420 That's not it. 02:24:37.440 --> 02:25:03.140 So you have to pick which one you like before everybody else does. You don't have any idea which way the wind is blowing on this. You have to just let it all hang out. I think it's going to blow all over the place, though, so we'll see. I think. I don't know. I've mentioned my gaping holes in metal. The first time I listened to either of these albums was last week when George told me we were going to talk about them. You're welcome. 02:25:10.359 --> 02:25:37.400 So Trouble, I didn't like at all. And when you said the context, like, you know, sort of like, this is Doom, these are like Doom God, the Fathers, I didn't get a lot of Doom in that Trouble album. I think there was like moments, but it just sounded like, like British heavy metal, right? But what do I know? Aren't they from like Chicago or something? Are they? Okay, I don't even, I don't even know. I did not look in. I was more familiar with 02:25:37.420 --> 02:26:07.400 With Candle Mass than I was Trouble. I've heard both of those names. But I like the Candle Mass album better. That's cool. That's the purpose of this exercise. That's as good as that's actually you're coming from fresh ears. So that's a perfect way to start. She'll be the deciding vote for us too. Oh no. That's a lot of pressure. If there's a tie. If there is. Which brings us to 02:26:07.420 --> 02:26:37.400 Matt. No, to Marcus. No, Marcus. Sorry. I always like Skip Marcus. Always forgetting me. Jesus Christ. I do. I know. I'm such a piece of shit. Sorry. And it's funny because I think of you so often. Oh, geez. Well, I mean, like I was saying, this is one of the hardest, if not the hardest, Thunderdums I've had to do. I think both of these albums are undisputed, all-time classic Doom albums. And there just isn't anything that I can zero in on as something they have 02:26:37.420 --> 02:27:06.660 that gives one a musical advantage over the other. I've spun both of these albums about an equal number of times over the years. So there isn't an album that stands out to me that's more playable than the other one. Having listened to both of these albums again a number of times just for this cast, nothing's really changed in that regard. This Thunderdome is honestly about as even for me as it comes. 02:27:06.720 --> 02:27:35.680 So the only deciding factor I can lean on to make this ridiculous choice that John has laid before us has nothing to do with the music. So I decided I'm going to look at the whole package for each album. The gaping hole package? The gaping hole, but it's not, I mean, it's not really a hole because you can see it. It's not bottomless anyways. The only thing that separates them to me is the cover art. 02:27:35.780 --> 02:28:05.740 And so in this category, I think it's not really a contest. One has a weirdly drawn devil skull floating on a black background. With drumsticks or some shit? Yeah, with a title in a badly chosen military font. And the other one has one of the most hellish landscapes I've ever seen on a metal cover that I often find myself staring at and finding new detail that I didn't see before. It is a good cover. Troublesome 9 takes the Thunderdome by crushing 02:28:06.260 --> 02:28:33.900 Crushing the Ho-Hum Hand Doodle on Epicus with its vastly, vastly superior painted rock skull landslide of death. I got a Ho-Hum Hand Doodle from Will once. Yeah, popular sex move on this podcast, yeah. Awesome, awesome Thunderdome. Just two phenomenally great albums, and I didn't think it would ever come down to the fucking cover art, but there you go. All right. All right. Now we go to Matt. 02:28:35.000 --> 02:29:04.780 If I could just start up by saying, I'm not a bad person. Are you sure? I've just done bad things. Secondly, John, thank you for choosing these two albums. Up until this point, I knew of Trouble. I had not listened to any Trouble. I knew more about Candlemas. I actually caught the end of a set of Candlemas at Vaken one year, which interestingly enough was not what I pictured to be Candlemas. 02:29:05.000 --> 02:29:34.780 because they had a completely different singer at that time. And I thought, was it the, I saw maths was, I believe is who I saw. Gotcha. And that was, it was weird because I was like, I feel like every time I felt like thought about candle mouse, it's been a different singer. And as I've done a little bit of research this week, it probably was a different singer. That's right. As I've also talked, like the better you sing and I have a birthday party, the less likely you're going to be invited to that because I just, 02:29:37.100 --> 02:30:04.800 But that said, I listened to both these albums. And the first time I went through, I was like, I am deeply in love with both of these albums. But to Stacey's point, the trouble kind of bounces back and forth. There's a little bit of, you know, new wave of heavy metal in there. Whereas the Candlemas has a little bit more darker doom, a little bit more sinister elements to it. 02:30:06.199 --> 02:30:34.880 And that does it for me. And so I have to choose Candlemas on this one. Excellent. John. It's occurring. No, it is John. It's just occurring to me that the guy who does it ought to be the last one. But, you know, fucking do it. It's fine. So I love both these albums, but one album in particular, 02:30:35.000 --> 02:31:04.420 is one of my favorite albums, metal albums of all time. And that's Trouble, Psalms 9. I know I've heard here, well, it's sort of doom. These guys are doom. I think people are more familiar with Candlemas. That's why Trouble kind of gets forgotten or lost in the mix because... That's their trouble. Yeah. I mean, their first three albums are very doom. And then the fourth, which is the album just called Trouble, which is where the confusion with the album titles comes from. 02:31:04.980 --> 02:31:34.840 because Trouble Psalm 9 originally was just Trouble. They kind of go into the stoner doom sound in the 90s, but they're part of the whole Metal Blade, Metal Massacre compilation things with their song. What is it? I'm trying to think of a song that was on there. There's a song they released in 83 on that. Their lineage goes back to the 70s, so they're kind of part of that. 02:31:35.160 --> 02:32:04.840 Pentagram, early post Sabbath-y Doom sound. And while they have more of a metal sound, a heavy metal sound than, say, Candlemas, I still think they're very Doom. Because there are bands that ventured off in that direction, too. Like, Cathedral has a little bit of that sound, too. They kind of merged that heavy metal and Doom sound for a while there before they go full Stone or Doom. Kind of proto-DOOM. Yeah. And I also say that new Doom bands are doing that. 02:32:05.000 --> 02:32:34.180 Yeah. You know, like a chemist and stuff, they're kind of, they're merging just, you know, heavy metal, like traditional heavy metal with you. And I think kind of weird that's coming first. Yeah. And I think people kind of forget that when Sabbath kind of started doing their doom thing, their albums weren't full on doom. No, no, no. They were a mix of heavy, fast paced metal songs and some doom songs. Like probably the first doom album I think is master of reality. I know people like to say the first album, but I think that the third album is more doomish. 02:32:34.520 --> 02:33:04.400 There's some fast-paced songs on there. There's just some straight metal songs on there. But Trouble doesn't take it by much. It's just by a little. I just think it's a better album for me. All right. Two and two. No losers. Will. Put the lotion in the Troublesome basket. Will goes Trouble. I was a sugar. Interesting. I spent quite a bit of time this last weekend listening to both albums. 02:33:04.820 --> 02:33:34.480 and trouble. Psalm 9 has always had a special place in my heart. It remains a special place in my heart. And it blows Candlemas. Epic. Do me. Blah, blah, blah. Epicus. Yeah, it blows it out of the water. I just think for me, for me, a lot of it is the I love Candlemas, but I love the vocals more on Psalm 9. And I have a and this is where it kind of goes in that whole 02:33:35.340 --> 02:34:04.480 I have a slightly personal connection with the drummer Oli for Trouble, who is now one of the main beer guys behind Allagash up in Portland, Maine. Anyway, blah, blah, blah. Trouble. Jay. This is a hard one, and you guys have all prompted some comments I want to make that I wasn't necessarily thinking I would make. And I think one of the primary differences, I think both Johns and 02:34:04.520 --> 02:34:34.060 And Stacy's comments were both completely valid. It's like, it's not as, it isn't as doomy as the Candlemask for sure. And yet John's absolutely right. Like if you go put on Black Sabbath volume four, there's, if that's a doom record and it's like one of the doom records, you know, it's, it's full of shit. That's not snow blind, you know, and stuff like that. And, and it's good. It still works. So there's that. But I also think one of the primary differences, like, and for lack of a better way of putting it, Candlemask is kind of rounded around the edges. 02:34:34.200 --> 02:35:04.180 and trouble is got corners you know what i mean like it's just sharper it's not as kind of big and black and foggy kind of thing and and that's a compliment i don't mean foggy production i just mean one of them is a much more bass based record you're not saying it's a hazy ipa or anything like that no no but it's definitely um it has the if bass equals heavy it has the heavier production of the two would be the difference with the candle 02:35:05.279 --> 02:35:34.020 A lot of other thoughts about it besides that, but these are two records that I've known and liked since the 80s. And I had to think about it really hard. And the only other, the last comment I'll make is that it's ironic that Trouble, that Candlemas, well, not now, but especially during the Robert Lowe era, had a singer that sounded a lot more like the guy from Trouble than early Candlemas. Because Robert Lowe sounds more like a Trouble singer, 02:35:34.220 --> 02:36:03.920 to me than he does. In any case, and I like all the different eras of Candlemass, but I still think Troublesome Nine is a better record than this particular one. And there might have been other Candlemass records you would have put it up against, and I might have gone a different direction. I mean, I actually like the last Candlemass album better than that one. It was great. Yeah, the last one was really good. I like the singing better on the new album than I did. Well, he's back, you know. Which I find interesting, because I do remember you guys saying on that last album, like, 02:36:03.980 --> 02:36:33.960 Oh, this singer's back. And I thought, fuck, you have a lot to choose from. Who could it be? And it's like, oh, no, it's the guy who did this album. And he sounds better, dude. I like the way he sings now even more. Me too. Though I also like that they basically did this record in negative, the poorly shitty record cover that Marcus Sun doesn't like. It calls that to me. It's fine. It's just not as good as the Trouble record cover. Come on, it's not close. So I rambled on a lot there, but how I respect 02:36:34.000 --> 02:37:03.220 for both of these records, but to me, trouble gets the edge on this one. All right. I think I know what George will pick, but I won't suggest. Doesn't matter. A2, Jay. A2? There you go. I guess I did think you were going to. Yeah, I really thought you were going to Candlemas that one. Yeah, I didn't know which way Jay would go on that one, actually. Yeah. I'm more known as a Candlemas fan amongst you guys. Indeed. But I'm a huge fan of the first couple of trouble. 02:37:03.980 --> 02:37:33.960 really hard Thunderdome. John picked a really, really difficult one. A Troubler or a Masser? Yeah. Except for Stacey. Stacey was very clear. Yeah. Well, I like both of these albums as well, and I've liked them both since they came out. But Candlemas is my clear winner. This album, particularly the songs Solitude and A Sorcerer's Pledge, have just for years been like Candlemas. 02:37:34.000 --> 02:38:03.540 for me. Yeah. And while, you know, I like them both, but if I have to pick, I got to go Candlemas. Not that it apparently matters at this point. The only, the only the internet can save us now. It's as close as it can be, you know, seven people. I think this is the only one I've been on that I've lost. But I predict that the internet will go Candlemas all the way. I don't think a lot of people have actually listened to Trouble, to be honest with you. 02:38:03.620 --> 02:38:33.600 I think you're right yeah John's definitely right if Candlemas doesn't run away with it on the re the listener vote then I'll be shocked yeah me too I'll be honest if you like stoner metal and you don't know cathedral or candle or uh trouble then you haven't tried hard enough to look to the I don't like stoner metal I'm not a big fan either but they're without question both those bands are the reason for stoner that and um what's the band that dude I don't like uh Josh Holm 02:38:33.620 --> 02:38:40.800 Oh yeah. I don't mind Kias, 02:38:40.940 --> 02:38:44.960 but I don't like his other stuff. He's done. Yeah. But here's the thing, John, like, you know, 02:38:45.080 --> 02:38:49.280 maybe people don't know trouble, but hopefully they'll listen to this cast and they'll give it a shot. 02:38:50.000 --> 02:38:53.620 They should at least listen to the first two or three albums or first four albums. 02:38:55.020 --> 02:38:58.500 Yeah. And they're still kick-ass live. Actually, all their stuff is good. 02:38:58.660 --> 02:39:00.900 It's just, if you want their do me or stuff, it's their first four. 02:39:01.920 --> 02:39:30.520 Yes. Well, and while we're giving the sales pitch to people, I would also suggest people check out that latest Candlemas record, as noted, and also the Robert Lowe era in particular, I think, is quite good. Yeah, it's weird, Jay, that Robert Lowe era sounds like Solitude Eternus. Yeah. I wonder why. Because he sang for the band? Maybe. King of the Grey Islands is so fucking good, dude. That was the first one with him. I mean, the Messiah Markolan years are my favorite Candlemas years. 02:39:30.800 --> 02:39:58.320 I found Nightfall on vinyl in a used record store in Ann Arbor in 1986 or 7 or so. And you look at the cover and it's got the old painting or engraving or whatever it is. And I'd read about them and I picked it up and it was just amazing. But the first album and the Robert Loire stuff are also good. 02:40:00.380 --> 02:40:09.420 All right, let's move on. Thunderdome, John. Awesome Thunderdome, John. Yeah, really good. Glad you guys liked it. What are we listening to? 02:40:33.960 --> 02:40:35.080 Stacey, you're up. 02:40:37.300 --> 02:40:44.660 Okay, so I recently just discovered Beaten to Death, and I cannot get enough of their entire catalog. 02:40:45.000 --> 02:40:46.960 That's kind of what I've been going through right now. 02:40:47.000 --> 02:40:51.240 Yeah, those last four APs were incredible. 02:40:54.160 --> 02:40:58.520 Summoning the Lich, so the prosthetic release has been a lot of fun. 02:40:58.920 --> 02:41:28.880 I wanted to I've been meaning to get that I've been listening to that just like on on band camp and I've been meaning to pull the trigger on buying it yeah it is yeah super fun um I think you guys mentioned last or I saw I think on Facebook but I I don't know how to say it Iotune I I whatever I thought it was Yotun what I don't know we do this a lot is it so it's whatever you want it to be I always caught Iotun I like that better 02:41:28.920 --> 02:41:58.500 But in any case, you clearly dig it. I dig it. And I, again, not a huge fan normally of clean vocals. I was just going to call you on that. I know. I know. I know. I know. I'm weird. I'm weird. And there was actually a surprising amount of it on my end of your list. But and honestly, I get through I get halfway through and I'm like, oh, I just want to listen to Borknagar now. That's usually what happens. But Borknagar. That last one was great, by the way. I love that last Borknagar. So good. That's one of the shows. 02:41:58.600 --> 02:42:25.820 I think I'm most devastated about not being able to see. Hopefully they come around. I heard that Devastation was just being postponed rather than canceled outright, but I'd really like to see them. In another band I don't know how to pronounce, Sevestida? I don't even know. Spell it. Let me do that for you. It's like, 02:42:29.859 --> 02:42:57.640 S-V-D-E-S-T-A-D-A. Like Blackened Neocrust from Spain slash Buenos Aires. Cool. I'm looking at it. Yeah, I know. It's really good. I don't think I've heard of that one. That's crazy because we hear of everything. Oh, wow. A band that George hasn't heard? Well, that's going to be a theme on this episode, actually. Wow, it should be. I feel like I should get a T-shirt for that. 02:42:58.580 --> 02:43:25.880 Send me your address. Will do. What else? I wrote a list so I wouldn't like brain fart because I do that so much. So you real fart and brain fart a lot. I real fart and brain fart. There's just gas everywhere. You're getting brain gassy. Well, you'll be hanging out with Jay at Decibel then. I can already confirm for you, George, that you will like Sevastiva. All right. 02:43:28.580 --> 02:43:58.540 They're really good. I mentioned Kara Nair earlier. That's like chiptune, black metal. Wolf King's been a lot of fun. That's another press deck release. I like that. I just like that kind of music and Bewitcher. What else? The last thing I'll mention. Oh, I did sort of say it, but Chainsword, they're just outright like, we sound like Bolt Thrower because we like Bolt Thrower and that's what we do. Bolt Thrower's good. I can get behind that because, yeah, I love Bolt Thrower. 02:43:59.319 --> 02:44:27.280 The album cover, you should check out if you have not seen it. It's like this six-armed fucking warrior woman with five breasts that have chains through her nipples to make sort of like what's supposed to be a pentagram, I think, but it's really just an upside-down star because there's really nothing that makes the circle. Yeah, it's like a pentaboob. But it's a lot of fun. 02:44:28.020 --> 02:44:57.960 What was it called again, please? Chainsaw. Do you want the name of the album? Yeah. I've listened to that, too. Apparently, Stacey really likes covers with boobs on them. I love... Who doesn't love Tate? Oh, I got it. I got it. Light March. Who doesn't? I mean, come on. Sorry, sorry, Jay. You just interrupted probably about the most awesome thing ever said on this podcast. Which was? Stacey, go ahead. 02:44:58.000 --> 02:45:27.180 Who doesn't love titties? Oh. Is that it? You made it sound like that's never been said on this podcast. I don't know. That's like common now. It hasn't. I think that was the last Thunderdome. We don't really talk about boobs that much. It's mostly about penis. I do got it. I do got the record up here. It's called Blight March. Thanks for the heads up. And that's really a pretty bolt thrower-esque cover too, you know. Cool. Yeah, that was fun. 02:45:28.020 --> 02:45:57.260 I love Bolt Thrower so much. Me too. We need to get Jay to buy an album. Fourth Crusade, Jay. Fourth Crusade. All right. So just so you know, Stacy, we have a thing here where I have quite a few now, but I've always liked Bolt Thrower from a distance. And so I decided I needed to buy the whole catalog, but I always wait until somebody says the name of a title. Hey, kid. So what was it? What was it, George? Fourth Crusade. Fourth. Thank you. 02:45:58.020 --> 02:46:27.840 I mean, they're releasing all those albums on dynamic range, which I have most of them now. They just released another one on dynamic range. You know what full dynamic range means? Means no matter how much you turn it up, you can't get it loud enough. They fucking annoy me. I was listening to the full dynamic range of Left Hand Path the other day, and I had it turned all the way up, and it was not loud enough. And that's because they don't compress it. And I'm like, motherfuckers. 02:46:28.000 --> 02:46:57.960 I'm like, I would rather have a compressed album, but I can play loud. Anyway. Speaking of full dynamic range, this has been mentioned to the guys already, but I got the remasters of the Sabbath stuff that came out. Yeah, no, I haven't run that comparison yet, John. But I found something on one of them by accident, and it's a cough that the remaster brought out, somebody coughing into their sleeve. I'll have to go, and I can almost tell it's Dio by the September of the cough, but it's right between two lyrics. I'll find it, and then I'll tell you guys where it is. 02:46:58.000 --> 02:47:27.800 But not a fart. I think it's on Die Young, but I'll have to look. Like a mouth fart. Literally, it's like if it were Die Young, and I think it is, is Gather the Wind. It's there, man. It's there. It's back there, but it's there. Amazing. That brings us to Mark. Well, it's interesting. So the first thing that is on my list of what I'm listening to is the Dio Sabbath albums, because I just got them in the mail yesterday. 02:47:28.020 --> 02:47:56.100 and I played them once through. So I'm looking forward to spinning it more and listening for coughs. Yeah, I'll find out where they are. But can I also sense you're in the party? That is to say you've got these. And I think it's the only two that have them right now. In particular, and these might both be from the Hammersmith's thing, John, but on the Mob Rules live stuff, the live version of both Country Girl and Slippin' Away are kick-ass, dude. Like, Dio is on fucking fire. 02:47:56.600 --> 02:48:25.480 Yeah, the live album I put in the box for us, that's by far the best live album with Dio, singing Sabbath stuff. And I think both of these cuts are from that originally. Yeah. The one thing I didn't like that they did with these new remasters is they broke up the Hammersmith show, which was originally included with the first remaster in 2010. They broke it up between the two albums. Yeah. Yeah. Which I have the Hammersmith thing too. I mean, it's released on its own. You can get it. Yeah. 02:48:26.600 --> 02:48:56.580 I can get any more though I think it's hard to find now isn't it you can get it digital if you're desperate yeah but in any case Marcus I apologize but I did want to say absolutely you know I'm really excited about it too I thought I was gonna have to wait a little longer because you know Dio Sabbath is my favorite Sabbath so I'm really stoked to play it this week let's let's cross our fingers for dehumanizer too then to be done to be treated like this that's a good record I had that one also remastered god damn it John they just put it out like last year or two years 02:48:56.600 --> 02:49:26.540 It's been a while. It was part of all those remasters they did in 2010, I think. No, they did one recently, though, John, because I picked it up here in Hawaii, so it has to be only like a year or so old. They re-released it. Anyways, yeah, I mean, I love all the Dio Sabbath. I mean, I like Sabbath just in general, but Dio's my favorite. Also listening to Sepulchros Vazio on Transcending Obscurity Records. This is a hypnotic, enthralling, 02:49:27.020 --> 02:49:56.580 Funeral Doom Death. This is only the band's first album, but it feels like they're adding something new to the style, new dimensions to the style, because it's Funeral Doom, but with more of a sinister evil attack that I didn't know that I needed in this genre, but I absolutely do now. I really love this Sepulchros album quite a bit. Also, significant point in 02:49:56.620 --> 02:50:26.580 the storm on dying victims productions this is a fantastic mix of old school speed epic metal and power metal and i love the cover on this thing have you guys seen the cover to a significant point it's a squad of marines incredulously standing on a tiny seashore cliff as they unload their rifles into some kind of ocean 02:50:27.120 --> 02:50:55.220 Manticore Kaiju. There's this nasty storm that's brewing in the clouds as they engage in the battle. And in these darkening skies, there's a group of F-14s that zip past the battle, most likely heading out to fight another beast who's devouring an aircraft carrier in the off-screen Pacific. It's freaking awesome. I love this cover so much. Can we get Markathon to describe all of the album covers? We always say that. 02:50:55.280 --> 02:51:24.520 That was amazing. We always say that. You gotta see it. I want you guys to look at this cover because it's fucking awesome. It's really good. And the album is excellent, too. Are there boobs? There's no boobs. That would have enhanced it. Although I would have to look at the kaiju again because maybe there's some nipple there that I didn't notice. Oh, like a nip slip? Yeah. Another album I really, really dig is Iskard Morth. 02:51:27.319 --> 02:51:54.500 Helldruck on Repose Records. This is a really excellent, innovative, avant-garde black metal album. It's one of the standout black metal records for me this year. I really like this one. I was surprised. I'd never heard of this band before and just came across it, but I've been spinning that one a lot. Paranorm, Empyrean. I think everybody's listened to this one on Redefining Darkness Records. 02:51:54.660 --> 02:52:24.620 This is an album of progressive thrash. It is a behemoth of progressive thrash, I should say. The band really displays a lot of technical skill, I think, on this record, but it never forgets to kick you in the teeth with the riffs. So I really enjoy that one. Stonehealer, Conquistador. Yes, this is self-released. This is not out for another month, but we received the promo, and I do listen to all our promos, but I had not 02:52:24.660 --> 02:52:54.380 this one when George specifically urged me to listen to it because he thought I would dig it. Yep. And I'm happy to report that after two years of metal dating, George does indeed know me very well. This is an excellent progressive black death record. Really killer musicianship on this. I believe it's like a month out. Yeah. Put it on your radar. It's self-released. 02:52:54.420 --> 02:53:24.400 I don't think they have a label for it so definitely make a point to listen to this record because it's really really good yeah John and I know Dave Kaminsky the main guy in this band he plays live he plays live with him for a brewer we've met him a couple times yeah really good guy really good album yes pan-american native front little turtles wars self-release yeah definitely I know this was on Matt's radar this is a one-man 02:53:24.440 --> 02:53:53.680 Black Metal Project by a Native American musician. He records songs that tell historic tales about battles that indigenous people have fought throughout the centuries of colonial occupation. So the album has a good and necessary message, but also one I think that's unique for a metal band. But it's also just a really dynamic and triumphant slab of Black Metal. 02:53:54.440 --> 02:54:23.820 And I particularly like that it incorporates indigenous language into the album as well. So I've been following this band for a little bit and this is by far the best album I've done, Little Turtles War. And then Stacy's mentioned this band. We have no idea how to pronounce it. I pronounce it Iotun. Access All Worlds on Metal Blade Records. I've thrown this LP on about 20 times now, I think. 02:54:24.420 --> 02:54:54.260 And I think it's pretty damn perfect flight of cosmic progressive death. And I think I, it should have been my February album of the month. I don't think I spun it enough. But now it would be if I could go back in time. So every song is just gorgeously crafted. I think it's powerful. It has massive hooks. John Aldara's growls and clean vocals are just, they're just phenomenal throughout the album. 02:54:55.159 --> 02:55:24.040 I really, really, really love this record. It's very high on my list right now. Oh, I was, are we doing album of the episode at the very end after everybody does stuff? Are we doing it? Because we've already done it. I put this last so we could do it now. So you should go ahead. Then we have to circle back and ask Stacy because I forgot to do that. Right. Okay. Well, I'm going to go with IOTUN. I like to go with a new album for the spotlight. I know we can use older albums, anything that we've talked about in the episode. 02:55:24.440 --> 02:55:52.760 I like to talk about something new. So I'm going to go with Access All Worlds. I think it's a classic album in the making. My album of the month last month maybe? It was the shortest album of the month. Yeah, it was. And like I said, it's already climbing. My list is very high on my list. I actually went through all the albums so far because there's so many good ones and started making my list and it's pretty high up there. So great, great record. 02:55:54.420 --> 02:56:24.260 What would you say your album of the episode is? Everything that's been spoken of. Right, right. Just based off what I'm listening to right now, I would say those last four Beat in the Death EPs, if I can count that as maybe one. I mean, they're conceptually linked. Well, they did do a combined release. It didn't have all the songs, though, which was kind of weird to me. Weird, yeah. 02:56:24.440 --> 02:56:53.940 Yeah. So I'll go with that. Cool. All right, then, Matt. Okie doke. I'm about 150 pages into a book called Please Kill Me, which I believe is the oral history of US Punk. I read that. I've been jamming some Velodong around, Iggy and the Stooges, MC5. Good stuff. Also, last episode, John made a brilliant comment. Cobalt. 02:56:53.980 --> 02:57:23.680 does tool better than tool. And I thought two things like, fuck, that's brilliant. The second thing I thought was I should listen to some Cobalt. But like 2021, I would have to say as far as listening to music, I really have a lot of ADD. And so listening to Cobalt turned into a six degrees of Cobalt deep dive, which brought me into Cobalt, Lord Mantis, Indian, Dark Castle, Rake, Rake, and Atlas Moth. 02:57:23.980 --> 02:57:53.860 So much good stuff. Yeah, exactly. Huge epicenter, which was from last time. I felt like what I did a deep dive on. I don't even remember what it was. Alice Moth is like my number two. The last album was my number two on my list. Yeah. I cannot express how much I love that band. Entombed, Left Hand Path, Glendestine, Wolverine Blues. I found a, not compilation, but a collaborative album. 02:57:53.980 --> 02:58:23.580 by Myopic and At The Graves. A Cold Sweat of Quiet Dread. I would describe this as Isis meets warm and fuzzy atmospherical black metal. Some good shit. Check it out. Battlemaster, Ghastly Graven, and Sourless. That fucking album rips. It does rule, doesn't it? Holy shit. I knew it was good, but holy shit. That is amazing. That's Andy Horn from our last episode from Loud Night. That's his other band. 02:58:24.220 --> 02:58:53.920 Yeah. And I should mention, so I ordered a t-shirt from them because I would like to get the color vinyl they put up and it's sold out. I ordered a t-shirt from them and he wrote me a really nice note about how much he enjoyed being on the Metalheads podcast. We'll talk metal. So I wanted to share that with you guys. Yeah. Just a, I mean, that was a really fun podcast. I love those guys and their music is, this has been advanced because of it. And they were nice guys too. Yeah. Always goes a long way. And funny as fuck, dude. 02:58:56.239 --> 02:59:21.640 I'm calling out Battlemaster, but Loud Night, that album fucking tears shit up. With either one of you, cannot go wrong. Pronunciation. Wesson Willa, but Europe Matt wants to put V's in there anyways. The album is two. They probably are. It's a second album from a Dutch two-piece. 02:59:24.960 --> 02:59:52.160 I don't know how long ago that came out. Really good shit. Matt, just as a heads up, with summer coming, I bought my new swimming suit and I got a Dutch two-piece, so it'll be nice. Ooh, lovely. How's that work? It's like a sex thing. It's not gonna lie. I like the term Dutch two-piece, which has so many good things in here. You know, swimsuit, two-piece metal band. I just pictured Jay with boobs on a metal album cover. 02:59:53.980 --> 02:59:54.460 Yes. 02:59:55.720 --> 02:59:56.940 Welcome to Speedo Summer. 02:59:59.339 --> 03:00:02.000 Next, one track from a band called Initate. 03:00:02.360 --> 03:00:03.460 It is called Urine. 03:00:03.720 --> 03:00:08.020 The album is called Severed Within, which comes out April 16th on Willow Tip. 03:00:08.980 --> 03:00:12.000 Reminds me a little bit of Ulcerate. 03:00:12.900 --> 03:00:16.120 Not sure about the muddy production yet, but definitely worth checking out. 03:00:17.000 --> 03:00:19.380 The new Spectral Lore, which got the promo for it. 03:00:20.860 --> 03:00:21.900 That is amazing. 03:00:22.320 --> 03:00:51.460 My Polish Blood cannot pronounce the name of the album, but it comes out on Ivor Hanger on April 23rd. I would echo George's comments. It is fucking amazing. And Panopticon, my people. The album No Hope, K-N-O-W, hope has been out for a while. And then today I got some messages saying with the pre-orders, they're very grateful for selling out the vinyl. 03:00:51.520 --> 03:01:21.080 So they're going to release one more track. It's called Moth Eaten Soul. It's great. I would just say that they added more vinyl. They were able to add more vinyl so you can order it for first pressing. Yep. So definitely dig in. That album comes out May 15th. And that's all I got. I would say my album of the episode, a.k.a. the, it's not salty, but it's, wait. Yeah. What is the sample? I have it. Hold on. It's a little bit salty, 03:01:21.120 --> 03:01:51.080 But it's not bad. It's a little bit salty, but it's not bad. Album of the episode is Spectral Lore. Nice. By far. Little shout out to the dock worker look you're pulling tonight too, Matt. I like that. He's just hip and trendy unlike the rest of us old fucks. FYI, I hope that next time we have a podcast I'm in the fucking home I bought and actually not have to wear it. It looks like I'm in the sequel to Rent. Is that a possibility? 03:01:52.080 --> 03:02:21.100 Is it a possibility? We move in probably the third or fourth week in April. Otherwise, I'll be up. Well, after the 31st of March, I'll be at my mom's house. So good times. I'm so sorry. What a nightmare. Hey, yeah, he's really good. I get alcohol delivered to my house. So everything is good. He got a drinking horn. So everything's good. Yeah. Goddamn right. With records and tapes. So no 03:02:22.061 --> 03:02:22.580 John. 03:02:24.260 --> 03:02:24.560 All right. 03:02:24.670 --> 03:02:29.840 Since the last podcast we did, I've been spending the album forest forest. 03:02:30.820 --> 03:02:34.260 This is basically just another blue saw Nord album. 03:02:35.170 --> 03:02:38.720 I don't know why it's different, but apparently he's doing a 03:02:39.400 --> 03:02:42.160 other project, but it's a solid album. 03:02:43.960 --> 03:02:49.560 We mentioned fluo, but apparently there's issues with fluid, but I had never heard any of those issues about them before. 03:02:49.680 --> 03:03:18.880 So, but I actually listen to that on my watch. That's a conversation we'd have anyway. We would all be like, wait a second. Can I like this? So every time somebody like destroyer 666 or somebody fucks up. I mean, we had a huge conversation about this two episodes ago. So yeah, it's probably by surprise because they're on season of mist, which I figured season of mist wouldn't do that. But I know I'm sorry. Maybe he's distanced himself. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I think we take the approach of what we talked about in that episode is. 03:03:19.700 --> 03:03:49.640 You just have to look at it yourself and decide for yourself. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Put it this way. It's certainly not like some of the bands we talked about during that episode. Yeah. We talked about some. There's no Grand Belial's Key. The band from Oakton, Virginia we talked about. We don't want to mention them. I just did. We've all mentioned Iotun or as George likes to say, Ootun. Yotun. It's fucking Viking, man. Yotun. Are we sure? Aren't they from Minnesota? 03:03:49.740 --> 03:04:19.520 or some shit? Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's not Viking. It can still be Viking, though, yeah. There's a lot of Vikings in the Midwest. Listen, Jotunheim is a big thing in Viking mythology. Is it spelled that way? It's not spelled that way at all. I know it's not, but I just assumed. You know what happens when you assume. Have you guys not seen Fargo? Yeah, so there you go. I remember George mentioned that last episode. 03:04:19.700 --> 03:04:49.400 And I went and I listened to a bunch of videos that the guys in the band did and never once did they say their name. I'm like, are you serious? I wasted all this fucking time. I do that all the time for things. I'm like, I go to YouTube and I look up interviews of the band to go, and this is blah from the band. And I'm like, fuck. That is a pet peeve of mine because when you do interviews, you should introduce the band and know the name. No, it wasn't that. They were doing like, they were playing parts of songs and they would discuss, 03:04:49.480 --> 03:05:19.320 what they were doing when they recorded the songs. So it was actually the guys in the band, but just them. No interview. So hey, this will fuck you up a little bit, though. And that is that I have heard Tom G. Warrior say Celtic Frost and Celtic Frost. Son of a bitch. So that doesn't fucking help. I know. So anyway. How is the band, what is the spelling of the band we're talking about? I-O-T-U-N-N. And the only reason I know about these guys is because George had them, 03:05:19.480 --> 03:05:47.720 his wishlist, I looked them up and found out there's another band called Sunless Dawn, which is like a sister band to them. And I'm like, fuck, I love both these bands and not because of that. So thank you, George. It just made sense to me that it's probably sort of it's power metal-ish adjacent. It's like proggy power, melodic death, all wrapped in one. It's just got kind of a Viking element about it, in which case I would think they would pronounce it Jotun. Yeah. And we've mentioned a singer. He's also in Barren Earth. 03:05:47.800 --> 03:06:17.760 and Hamfel, Hamforth, or whatever. Hamford, yeah. The Doom band, so. And I saw them. I saw Baron Earth at Prog Power, so I got to see him do it live, and yes, he really can sing like that, so. Wow. So Google thinks it's Scottish Gaelic. It's, what, for Iotan? I think it's Norwegian for giant. Whoa, whoa, whoa. No, they're Danish. Well, yeah, Jotan would be. Yeah. Mascot it. Jotan. Yeah, but Google doesn't 03:06:17.800 --> 03:06:47.740 what it's talking about. I win. I win. I win again. That's a computer-generated voice. We don't know what the hell that is. Yeah. Marcus, do you want the prize money? We need to get the band on now. We need to get the band on. I want prize beers. Okay. All right. Let me finish my list here. I want to change the rules to Album of the Month and go with an EP. My next EP, George will take credit for, 03:06:47.780 --> 03:06:50.480 it because he bought it before me even though i told him about it 03:06:50.900 --> 03:07:00.880 that's what i do the album is called fire magic and venom the band is called sea mosquito i'd never 03:07:00.980 --> 03:07:08.080 heard of these guys listen to it i was like whoa what the fuck it's a 22 minute song good it's really good 03:07:08.500 --> 03:07:13.499 they've got like five eps but it was a one-man project for the first three and the last two have been a 03:07:17.239 --> 03:07:20.720 I might just pull a J and just do whatever I want with the album of the month. 03:07:20.890 --> 03:07:24.460 So, yeah, J kind of opened that door. 03:07:25.739 --> 03:07:32.120 Yeah. Well, you didn't out me, but that was because my last month's album of the month actually came out the previous. 03:07:32.560 --> 03:07:39.400 Yeah. But, Jay, I thought about what you said to me and I was like, you know, it came out like two days before the end of the month. 03:07:39.480 --> 03:07:41.940 It's really kind of hard to diss that. So whatever. 03:07:43.060 --> 03:08:12.860 My real album of the month every month is Carcass. I've been that for three years. It's not your fault they haven't released it yet. Oh, the release date came out. August 8th, I think. If you love it that much, John, I mean, it's fair game. I'll do it. Hey, I'm the one posting this. I'll do whatever the fuck I want. Anyway, Sea Mosquitoes. 03:08:13.080 --> 03:08:43.000 I guess the way they describe themselves is they're a London-based unorthodox black metal band. Go with that and listen to it if you're interested in that kind of music. It's very avant-garde proggy but very black metal though at the same time. I love all those things. There you go. It is a little weird so you might dig that part of it. And like George and I were saying that intro like four or five minute riff is just brutal. I agree with John. It's a great EP. Yeah it's just so good. 03:08:43.080 --> 03:09:13.040 We've given you a lot of good stuff that you can listen to, Stacey, too. Oh, yeah. No, I'm taking notes. That way you don't have to listen to it again. I don't want to listen to my voice. It is weird to hear your voice, too. You have a fine voice. It's very nice. It's very nice. It's very nice. He's not back. Matt's not back, and he's one of the relevant people, but I did look it up in the carcasses August 7th. That means, you know what that means? That means if 03:09:13.080 --> 03:09:42.020 It comes out and Decibel happens. When Decibel happens, we will have heard this album. That means nothing. But it means... Dude, Decibel needs to happen. I need to see you guys. I really want to hang out with you. It's the only thing that matters this year. I know Stacy's going to be there too and she's been a fantastic guest. And Steve and Maggie too, I guess. Yeah, Steve and Maggie want to come too. I love those guys. I'll say hi, by the way, and Jeremy. I'll say hi. Hey. Yeah. 03:09:43.060 --> 03:10:12.860 I confirmed in your absence August 7th is the release date. And Joy just saying, now that means we may have heard it by the time we see each other. But knowing that our man Albert is a devotee, I would not be surprised if he tried to pull them for Dust Bowl this year since they have any record in the world. And I could see them coming too. FYI, August 7th is a fucking national holiday. National Carpenter's Day, of course. It's one day after my birthday. Oh, dude. This is perfect. It's two days of partying. 03:10:14.060 --> 03:10:42.180 7th for you guys, it'll still be August 6th for me. That's right. So it's on my birthday. So it's like 24 hours and 48 hours. You did it for me. I know you did. Carcass. Love you guys. Cheers. John, did we cut you out there at the end of your lists and things? I'm good. I got a couple more. No one's actually mentioned, but I think we've all listened to it. Suffering Hour. The cyclic reckoning. And so do people. Wow. 03:10:43.080 --> 03:10:44.880 This is like just this crazy 03:10:46.561 --> 03:10:47.080 Angular 03:10:47.500 --> 03:10:49.000 Dissonant death metal album 03:10:49.170 --> 03:10:51.440 It reminds me a little bit 03:10:51.580 --> 03:10:52.480 of Feather and Bone 03:10:53.060 --> 03:10:53.800 It's unrelenting 03:10:55.040 --> 03:10:57.120 But it has this kind of strange 03:10:57.500 --> 03:10:58.620 gothic sound to it too 03:11:00.280 --> 03:11:00.800 It's 03:11:01.580 --> 03:11:03.520 five songs, one song is like 16 minutes 03:11:03.780 --> 03:11:04.960 It's just a killer release 03:11:05.780 --> 03:11:06.880 If you're expecting 03:11:07.460 --> 03:11:09.400 death metal that's been coming out the last five years 03:11:12.521 --> 03:11:13.040 Then 03:11:13.060 --> 03:11:17.220 by because it's not what you're going to get it's different uh it's a killer 03:11:17.360 --> 03:11:23.100 release and my last one is elma just came out uh the other day and i'm surprised matt didn't jump all over 03:11:23.260 --> 03:11:32.060 this because it has one of the bands that he's he's big on uh tourists eburnia and it's their ep tourist eburnia 03:11:32.560 --> 03:11:38.140 which is experimental death metal i guess which is just basically saying avant-garde technical death 03:11:38.700 --> 03:12:07.240 But it's the main guy from Cosmic Petrefaction. And it's the bass player from Kralis. They just put an EP together during COVID. And it's a killer 20-minute technical avant-garde death metal album. Can you say anything again, Joe? Turris, T-U-R-R-I-S, Ibernia. That's Latin in case you didn't know that. I didn't know that until today. E-B-U-R-N-E-A. 03:12:08.160 --> 03:12:11.720 I can't remember it just go look on my band camp you'll see it on there's my last purchase 03:12:12.700 --> 03:12:38.120 nice yeah I like that one I'm on it yeah it's you know Marcus and I was like man a couple more songs keep it going you know no it's tough I don't I mean I get it like put out music when you have it but yeah it would have been nice if they just put out a couple more songs and made a full length but it was really cool to see the guy from Cosmere Beach of Action linking up with one of the guys from Krause yeah and Krause just put out like they did the supplies out 03:12:38.140 --> 03:13:07.540 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is good too. So it was interesting to see how they recorded that too. I feel like they like recorded on iPhones and shit like that. But yeah, solid band of them. So I'll do my album of the episode real quick. I don't have one album. I have three albums. Bear with me. Way to narrow it down. This is the anniversary episode of album of the month. I'm wearing this shirt. We just celebrated the 20th anniversary of Opus Blackwater Park. 03:13:08.160 --> 03:13:37.360 As you guys know, I'm a huge Opus fan, so that's a big deal for me. Just the other day was the 30th anniversary of Paradise Lost Gothic. Huge album. Albert from Decibel will agree with me on this. It's one of the most important Death Doom albums ever, whether you agree or not. It really is. And Jay will agree with this one. This is the band that kind of convinced metal bands to cover them. It's the band that dethroned Metallica at the Grammys. 03:13:38.160 --> 03:14:07.940 Ah, got a new record coming. The 50th anniversary of Jeff Pantol's Aqualung. Nice. Which is an amazing album. It's not metal, but it still sounds metal. And disturbing to me because I saw them on an anniversary tour. I just happened to be in England and I must have been, I guessed, 40th or 35th. It's been a while now. And I saw, and they came and did the whole record and it's Switch England, no place England. It was fucking awesome. It's the only, only band I know that's a prog band. 03:14:08.160 --> 03:14:38.020 When they get ready to rip into a guitar solo, the first guitar solo is a flute solo followed by a guitar solo. Yeah. They are teasing about a new record, which I don't expect will be anything terribly grand, to be honest with you. Well, he can't sing anymore to save it to that song. Yeah, he can't sing to save it. But Aqualung really is. It's a hugely influential album on metal. It is. And it might be the punchline to some jokes. It's almost a Freebird type thing, but it's a fucking great record, man. The riffs on that album, Jay, well, I know you, 03:14:38.160 --> 03:15:06.860 with me, some of those riffs are very metal-like. Yeah, big talk. All right. Oh, my God, I'm going to do this super fucking quick. Don't do it quick. Do it slow. Oh, just stop and just give us a regular list, Remy. Come on. Burn in Many Mirrors, Throne Hammer, Incantation Rites, The Crown, World Destroyer, Cannibal Corpse, Back Catalog. Fucking love Cannibal Corpse. 03:15:08.140 --> 03:15:37.000 I've been doing a deep dive on Led Zeppelin. Oh, let's hear it. Well, I know Stacy doesn't like him, but I do. I have Led Zeppelin 2 and Led Zeppelin 4. Led Zeppelin 2, my father sent the kids two Christmases ago on vinyl. And then for Valentine's Day, I got my daughter Evelyn because she just likes guitar. 03:15:37.820 --> 03:15:39.220 kind of hero kind of stuff. 03:15:40.520 --> 03:15:42.420 So I got her Led Zeppelin 4 on vinyl. 03:15:43.380 --> 03:15:46.780 And so I've personally been doing more of a deep dive on Led Zeppelin. 03:15:48.640 --> 03:15:50.660 Watched a couple documentaries on it. 03:15:50.700 --> 03:15:55.720 And then realistically, I've just been in all deal all the time. 03:15:56.040 --> 03:16:02.700 I've been really doing a deep dive on to and not deep dive, like not like this is new to me, but. 03:16:03.440 --> 03:16:06.280 But spending time with the ones you didn't necessarily spend a lot of time with. 03:16:06.460 --> 03:16:06.820 Yeah, yeah. 03:16:07.100 --> 03:16:09.140 So a lot of Dio 03:16:09.950 --> 03:16:12.740 Any particular favorites that you want to call out there? 03:16:12.920 --> 03:16:15.160 So yeah, I do 03:16:17.101 --> 03:16:19.540 So mostly Black Sabbath era Dio 03:16:19.700 --> 03:16:22.660 So Black Sabbath, Heaven, Hell, Black Sabbath, Mob Rules 03:16:23.840 --> 03:16:30.640 I did a little bit more of a deep dive after the most recent Decibel Magazine Hall of Fame 03:16:31.520 --> 03:16:34.380 And then Humanizer 03:16:36.539 --> 03:17:03.460 which I listened to quite a bit like months and months and months and years ago and then listened to a little bit more this time. It's better than you remembered it is. Yeah. No, no, no. Actually, I think Humanizer is phenomenal. I love it. So good. I mean, if you look at like, I feel like a seven star and some of the garbage that came out is Black Sabbath. Yeah. And then you introduce Theo. It's like, oh, wow, this is a good band again. Like, born again. 03:17:04.400 --> 03:17:05.980 After All and I. 03:17:06.810 --> 03:17:07.220 Time Machine. 03:17:08.180 --> 03:17:09.040 All of them, dude. 03:17:09.070 --> 03:17:09.600 Fuck me. 03:17:10.100 --> 03:17:13.560 You know, it's really more like, it's almost more like a Dio record. 03:17:13.710 --> 03:17:14.140 It is. 03:17:14.620 --> 03:17:15.280 No, it is. 03:17:15.410 --> 03:17:21.160 And actually, weirdly enough, I think, aside from a song here or there, I think every, 03:17:21.860 --> 03:17:25.180 even Heaven and Hell and My Rules or more Dio records. 03:17:25.740 --> 03:17:27.060 Even if they came out before Dio. 03:17:28.320 --> 03:17:28.460 Right. 03:17:28.700 --> 03:17:30.920 But that's what Dio became. 03:17:30.970 --> 03:17:34.280 And I think Black Sabbath performed to Dio, which I love. 03:17:34.320 --> 03:18:04.260 I absolutely love it. I mean, you have songs here and there, like sign of the Southern cross sounds like a Sabbath song. Yeah. Do you sing it? But a lot of the like neon nights and all that stuff. That's like, that's Dio. That's just, but it's interesting because the early songs they wrote was tiny. Tony, I mean, came to deal with those songs that he brought the lyrics to them, which is kind of funny because he was already going that direction. Right. And it may just be that black Sabbath was conforming to the time. It was a perfect storm. Right. If you look at, if you guys see that, 03:18:04.340 --> 03:18:34.280 I sent you where it was an interview with I owe me and he was talking about Dio and working on the Sabbath. And he's like, listen, you keep talking about rainbows. No more fucking rainbows. Markisan no more rainbows on the podcast. Okay. No, I love rainbow rainbow out there right now. I mentioned the, uh, 03:18:34.360 --> 03:19:04.300 Drunk Dialing of Nuclear Blast. So I spent a lot of time with all the vinyl that I received and just listened to an uncommon amount of vinyl in the last couple of weeks. And I'm going to do a little show and tell just because I got some great stuff. I got the Destruction Infernal Overkill. Nice. Eternal Devastation. Matt, as mentioned, the typo negative. Yes. Which I did not know had been re-released in vinyl. So that was a real treat to find out. Yes. But now I also, I didn't know this existed, but this was called 03:19:04.320 --> 03:19:33.720 Five Souls. This is five unreleased songs from Redeemer of Souls. They're on a bonus thing somewhere, but this was a Record Store Day vinyl release. So that's awesome. And while I'm in the Priest thing, I also have to mention, I mentioned this to you guys a while ago, but this DVD Battle Cry from Valken. This is one of Rob's best post-2000 performances, period. And so I had gotten this Blu-ray recently, and I spent a couple extra bucks to get the out-of-print vinyl, which I haven't received yet. Jay, does it say what year at Valken? 03:19:34.340 --> 03:20:02.040 It was Redeemer of Souls here, so it's like 2015, maybe 2016. Okay. AJ, the double disc has that too. Well, you know, had it not been canceled. I was wondering where else it was, John, because I didn't see it anywhere. Yeah. It's 2015, Matt. I feel like I caught a couple songs off that. Actually, I need to. Would you mind burning those for me, John, so I can get them on digital? You bet. 03:20:04.340 --> 03:20:07.200 with you in case you want to add this to your collection this is slayers 03:20:07.500 --> 03:20:15.720 album all on 45s two songs per record on vinyl six limited to 666 copies on sale and nuclear 03:20:16.000 --> 03:20:22.060 blast because nobody fucking bought it apparently so so i i was not aware of that that's cool i like i 03:20:22.060 --> 03:20:26.860 think i think it's but i think it cost me 24 bucks and i got it from nuclear blast 24 bucks it was 03:20:27.460 --> 03:20:34.300 yeah and it's um got some cool shit inside limited edition to 666 copies mine is 169 so 03:20:34.320 --> 03:20:35.200 They got a bunch left. 03:20:36.521 --> 03:20:37.580 And I each. 03:20:38.220 --> 03:20:42.480 It may be that Repelance was not quite their best. 03:20:43.260 --> 03:20:43.600 What? 03:20:44.480 --> 03:20:44.980 It's Slayer. 03:20:45.200 --> 03:20:45.500 Come on. 03:20:46.160 --> 03:20:46.520 Come on. 03:20:46.640 --> 03:20:48.960 What do you think about Slayer? 03:20:51.620 --> 03:20:52.180 It's okay. 03:20:52.520 --> 03:20:52.800 They're okay. 03:20:54.181 --> 03:20:56.280 I never listen to them very much. 03:20:56.640 --> 03:20:57.280 Like that's okay. 03:20:57.470 --> 03:20:58.140 It's not okay. 03:20:58.860 --> 03:21:00.020 I know random blood. 03:21:00.400 --> 03:21:01.700 Like I think I know. 03:21:02.960 --> 03:21:32.940 They're not in acquired taste. They're the best goddamn metal band in the fucking world. They're the best of the big four. You would say that even about, I don't know, what the fuck is that white album with the crosses on it that everyone hated? That's God Hits Us All. God Hits Us All is a great album. No, she's thinking of Diabolus and Musica or whatever that was. No, that's God Hits Us All. I don't even know. I'd never follow the song. They're all like this. There's five 03:21:32.980 --> 03:22:02.360 of these. I'm going to look it up right now. Listen to South of Heaven. I mean, I know that. Way backwards. But South of Heaven, when it came out, people, the critics hated it. I hated it. They did because it wasn't just speed metal. But I think over time. I was like, my cassette is broken. It's playing slow. Now, I agree with everybody with the Uton album. I'm doing that for you, George. That's a good one. But for you, Marcus, I hope to. There you go. 03:22:02.960 --> 03:22:32.240 And a few other new things I'm listening to, but the most other relevant thing to mention, and this is, I think, a love John and I kind of share, and that's the Saxon. And I got that DVD recently, which is a really nice Iron Maiden early years type documentary. And so, of course, that sent me down the Saxon rabbit hole. And it reminds me that one of my very favorite live, at least new wave of British heavy metal records, even above Live After Death, which is post new wave of British heavy metal records, 03:22:35.319 --> 03:23:02.880 It's a lot of time listening to the last five records. Didn't Saxon just put out a covers? It just came out. Yeah, I haven't heard it yet. This week, I think, didn't it? It did. I haven't heard it yet either, but I saw it. It's an interesting list of tunes ranging from Painted Black by the Rolling Stones. Immigrant Song is on there, but they also do some more medley stuff. I mean, they're old fucks, dude, so their influences are even older than they are. I haven't heard it yet, but I'll listen to it soon. 03:23:02.980 --> 03:23:32.300 Just because I always pay attention to what they're doing. How old are they? Are they 73 like Bill? No, but their first record came out in 78. Yeah, late 70s, their first album, yeah. I would say Biff is 68 or 69. He's got to be, yeah. It still sounds good. And then a bunch of new stuff, I always download everything, comes in mega, but those are the things that kind of dominated my... What's your album of the episode? 03:23:32.980 --> 03:24:02.720 The Crown, definitely. That record is really good. It's so good. Yeah, I'm a Crown convert, especially after the last two records. Not because the other stuff wasn't any good. I just didn't really know about them. And so they've got my attention. We're not talking about that show on Netflix. We're talking about the band. It's funny because my wife is watching The Crown on Netflix right now. It's right now while we're recording. She's watching. And I don't mind to tell you I'm in love with The Queen. But yeah, The Crown is a great show. 03:24:02.960 --> 03:24:32.620 Yes, that's a great album. It's going to make some lists this year. It had better. I will say, the last time I was at Valken, people were like, hey, did you go to Demons and Wizards or did you go to Opeth? And I was like, I went to The Crown. That's what I watched. You know. There you go. You know. The Demons and Wizards choice would be easier today, wouldn't it? Yes, yes. Definitely. John Schaefer, by the way, denied Bond a couple of days ago. I love it. And I love Opeth. I've seen him a few times. 03:24:33.000 --> 03:25:02.940 not seen the crown and i went to what was called the history stage which was which was a new stage which was basically about as big as the basement i'm in in this house and so it was a nice intimate experience and so yeah nice okay hey will what was your album of the episode turbo probably right i didn't really have one except i mean i i it was just more of just deep dive on do um all do all the time that i 03:25:05.740 --> 03:25:11.820 I got in the car. I listen to Dio. My daughter is completely obsessed with 03:25:13.860 --> 03:25:19.660 who's 10. She's obsessed with Chemist's version of Rainbow in the Dark, which 03:25:20.440 --> 03:25:25.660 I texted. She's like, this is better than Dio's version. I'm like, whoa, whoa. 03:25:26.520 --> 03:25:27.860 I love Chemist. I love Dio. 03:25:30.280 --> 03:26:00.240 I actually texted Phil on the lead singer of Chemist. I texted him like, by the way, my daughter said this. I almost wanted Phil to respond like, whoa, that's fucked up. He was like, yeah, that's awesome. Your daughter's right. Anyway, just Dio. Such a deep dive in Dio. That's it. I would add to that, Will, Dio, and this happens to me frequently, well, fairly frequently. That's a deep dive. 03:26:00.300 --> 03:26:29.140 That's hard to get out of. When you get stuck in Dio, you're stuck for a while. We call that a triple D, a deep dad Dio. Yeah. Part of, and I'll leave it at this, is that for Christmas, I got my daughter a subscription to iTunes, which is partly for her and for me because iTunes did this weird thing where it's like you can't even access your own music if you load into the iTunes library unless you pay their $10 a month subscription. 03:26:31.100 --> 03:27:00.220 So with that, when you say you want to go search for Dio, you have in your library, but if you have Dio in iTunes library, it gives you the lyrics. And so you just like, and as the song plays, it's just the lyrics scroll through. So it's been fun. And I, and I harken back to Jay's deep dive on Dio lyrics, you know, and the meaning of them. And, and, and so it's, it's fun to just sit there. 03:27:00.300 --> 03:27:02.300 on my phone and you know my kids are doing 03:27:03.000 --> 03:27:04.540 whatever and then it's like you just watch 03:27:04.640 --> 03:27:06.360 like oh I'm gonna watch 03:27:06.600 --> 03:27:07.980 the lyrics I'm gonna 03:27:08.480 --> 03:27:10.300 read and watch the lyrics as I scroll through 03:27:10.300 --> 03:27:12.160 my phone for you know 03:27:12.520 --> 03:27:12.620 whatever 03:27:14.180 --> 03:27:14.960 holy diver 03:27:16.579 --> 03:27:18.120 I love that feature by the way 03:27:18.340 --> 03:27:20.100 yeah it is kind of fun yeah anyway 03:27:20.820 --> 03:27:22.240 just a shout out that 03:27:22.270 --> 03:27:24.260 we got the megaton sword we got as 03:27:24.260 --> 03:27:26.200 a promo right I think so 03:27:26.480 --> 03:27:27.900 I think we did and I 03:27:27.920 --> 03:27:57.880 I loaded it into my iPod and it has that lyric feature on it which I love so what I'm looking at when I listen to Make a Ten Sword the newest one on my iPod I can read along with the lyrics which is everybody should do that it's fucking cool yeah all right George I hand it off to you and let's bring this puppy home all right so Markisan I think I have a name for this episode usually uh what we vagina 03:27:57.920 --> 03:27:58.580 for this episode. 03:27:58.920 --> 03:28:00.980 Actually, I was gaping hole. 03:28:01.380 --> 03:28:01.660 Maybe. 03:28:02.521 --> 03:28:03.080 Appropriate. 03:28:04.220 --> 03:28:04.540 No. 03:28:06.400 --> 03:28:08.880 It's actually a reverse Star Wars quote. 03:28:09.800 --> 03:28:10.000 Okay. 03:28:10.280 --> 03:28:15.540 So in episode four, Darth Vader is like, when I left you, I was but the learner. 03:28:16.260 --> 03:28:17.860 Now I am the master. 03:28:18.600 --> 03:28:23.060 And I want to call this episode, the master has become the learner. 03:28:24.100 --> 03:28:28.280 And that is because at least half my list has come from other people. 03:28:29.280 --> 03:28:29.640 Nice. 03:28:30.940 --> 03:28:45.240 Which is unusual. Usually I'm like the guy going, hey, listen to this. Hey, listen to that. And lately, I've just, you know, I've been hearing things based on other people's recommendations. So, you know, it's been a slow year. It's picking up. 03:28:46.280 --> 03:28:50.720 So anyway, okay. So my first is the band is called All My Faith Is Lost. 03:28:51.480 --> 03:29:21.440 And it's not even metal remotely. It's an Italian ethereal dark wave band. Which I found on Bandcamp. I bought their whole discographies like 12 releases. Did you just say Italian ethereal dark wave band? Yeah. It's mostly like clean female vocals with acoustic guitars and piano and like violins and stuff. And what I really 03:29:21.460 --> 03:29:51.400 Stacey's totally out. She's like, clean female vocals. Fuck you, George. What the fuck? Chick singers, man. Well, what's interesting is because I don't know if you've ever heard of ASMR. Yes. It's Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response, and it's this, they call it like a brain tickle. Bob Ross. That's why people watch Bob Ross. Give him the brain tickles. I'm sure I must have heard that connection, but that's exactly why it is. People like Bob Ross. 03:29:51.460 --> 03:30:20.500 So some people get it, some people don't. I'm one of the people that do. And the vocals on this, the singer for this album, the female singing vocals for this band is like an instant ASMR. It's like, I just start drooling. I'm just like, huh? And it's just extremely relaxing. So I was like, give me all of it. But my next is very metal. 03:30:21.480 --> 03:30:25.480 However, oh wait, sorry, there's another one in between. Uh, 03:30:29.680 --> 03:30:51.120 Anthropophagous and their first album, Death Fugue. They're a Massachusetts death metal band. I just picked that one up like today or yesterday. So I squeezed that one in there. Good stuff. Very good. Check it out. But this next one, I'm not sure the pronunciation. So maybe, maybe, uh, y'all can help me out with this one. Um, so when you say A-E together, 03:30:51.220 --> 03:31:21.120 To me, like, if this was like a Greek shield, it would be Aegis. Yeah, A-E. Yeah, makes sense. But this is either Baist, Baist, or Beast. Do you know the band I'm talking about? Oh, B-A-E-S-T. Yeah, how do you say that? It's just gonna be Beast, I'm sure. Yeah. Baist. All right. Well, anyway, their third album, 03:31:21.200 --> 03:31:48.360 Necrosapiens. They're a Danish death metal album. This album is really fucking good. This album is like Morbid Angels Domination. Got a little familiar with Bloodbath's Resurrection Through Carnage and Had a Little Baby. And it is a really good album. Moving on. 03:31:53.561 --> 03:32:18.440 I've jumped to D. I've jumped to D. There are no C bands. This one came from Stacy. This is the band Deadworks. And the album, The White Plague, Colorado Blackened Punk Folk, maybe? Yeah, acoustic black folk metal. Yeah. Yeah. It's incredible. 03:32:21.220 --> 03:32:23.680 You just did a line from Anchorman accidentally. It was 03:32:26.899 --> 03:32:28.420 Who put a question mark? 03:32:29.000 --> 03:32:31.120 There was an intentional question mark there though. 03:32:32.160 --> 03:32:34.080 No, I know, but you did the up slide there. I liked it. 03:32:34.820 --> 03:32:35.400 Yeah, totally. 03:32:36.360 --> 03:32:42.200 Yeah, I really dug this, particularly when I was reading about it and the whole like Native American thing. 03:32:43.979 --> 03:32:48.680 And I'm not going to spend a lot of time talking about it, but you should go to band camp. 03:32:48.840 --> 03:33:18.680 You should look this album up, you should read about it, and you should listen to it, and you should buy it. It's definitely an acquired taste. George, I'm so glad you liked it, though. Oh, it's very cool. It's one of my favorites. It has, yeah. It's very cool. In my heart. Next up is the band Deception. Will talked about them, and I think Mark is on as well. Their album, The Meyer, it's their third album. They're a Norwegian Death Band. After, I think Mark is on talked about them on Facebook, the drummer Einar reached out to me, and we had a little convo and friended up. 03:33:18.840 --> 03:33:48.660 And he's a good kid. Makes me feel old. But yeah, it's some good stuff. My next one, we are skipping E, going to F. This is not out yet, but this is the new Feed Them Death album, Negative. It's their third album. It's the UK Death Grind band. This is coming out in May. It's the Gnaw the Tongues guy. Really good. Next, we're back to Stacey again. This is Ghostbound. 03:33:48.840 --> 03:34:18.700 And I know Markisan pick this one up as well. Oh, yeah. I like all is phantom. Stacy. Could you tell us what you I can't describe it? So you need to describe this for us. It's just I don't even know. It's it's really theatrical. So I think it's I think it's fans for it's it's like people who are fans of that that kind of music. It reminds me of I don't even know, like the Decembrists in some way. 03:34:18.840 --> 03:34:48.800 It's definitely like metal adjacent, right? And there, I think there are some distorted vocals in there, but it is a lot of clean singing. It's just really pretty and it's really layered. It's very narrative. So if you're like into storytelling, I think this is, this is an album for you. Yeah. It's very intricate. It's very, it's a little bit cerebral. I think it's very thoughtful. I really liked it. It's typically not something that I, I would listen to, but it's a little bit more. 03:34:48.820 --> 03:35:18.800 It grabbed me. It was really good. I think they have something new coming out imminently. They have an EP coming out. Yeah. Because I was like, that album just came out. Right? That's a pretty new album. Well, Alice Shantam came out a couple years ago, I think. Well, that seems recent. 2018 or so. But the new album, it's called 03:35:18.820 --> 03:35:48.740 Extended Play for My Sweet Mary Time or something like that. That comes out this year. It's got five songs on it, so it should be a pretty substantial EP. But yeah, they're really good. What I like about that band is that it is kind of metal. It's kind of metal, but not. It has really ethereal vocals. It's more about evoking more of an emotional response. 03:35:48.820 --> 03:36:18.780 the music I think than it is like heavy. Yeah. But I'd still probably put it in the metal genre. I guess it depends on what this EP is. Yeah. It's pretty close. Yeah. Next up is one that I think it's been a long day. I think I bought it this morning. Might have been yesterday though. And I don't know how to say it, but I'm going to go with Kankar. K-A-N-K-A-N. 03:36:18.820 --> 03:36:47.960 Oh, yeah. I got some Friday list. Yeah, you and actually it might have been you. I don't know. I you and several other people on Facebook. Yeah, probably. Have contributed to my list a lot. So Dunkel Millennia. It's their first album. They're a German black metal band. I really liked it a lot. I bought it. Same with this next one. Mia's Mata. We went from K to we skipped out. It's like every other letter we're skipping. 03:37:18.840 --> 03:37:48.600 Norwegian black metal. I think Carrie actually got me turned on to this one. Another one that I picked up this morning, probably from Markison. Morost, Forged Entropy. Oh, definitely. Yeah. It's their second album. I had Mork on Metal Friday, too. Okay. Slovenian Prog Death Band. Very good. So good. Another Markison, though I should have known it. 03:37:48.820 --> 03:38:16.760 is Mourners, Act 1, Tragedies. That's a great funeral doom album. It is a Romanian funeral doom album. It's their first album, but it's the dude from Eye of Solitude, which I have been an Eye of Solitude fan for a long time, so I should have known this one, but I'll give you credit. That's really good. I mean, that's pretty high on my list right now. Probably the best funeral doom out in my bird. Next one, back to Stacy. 03:38:18.280 --> 03:38:47.300 Necro Comic Con. Hot Dog, Cart Hunger. Now, this is an interesting one. First of all, they've got, I think, three releases and I bought them all. They're like black metal cover songs of 80s songs. It's so good. It's so good. It's so good. It's not an intentional Rick Roll, so just be warned. But there is one in there. Never gonna give you up. Exactly. 03:38:48.300 --> 03:39:17.500 Yeah, like I had the tiger and like some Lionel Richie. It's amazing. It is really cool. It's got Slimer on the cover. And where are they from? Exactly. That is my next thing is that interestingly, it says they are from Hell, Michigan, which, okay, you know, that is cool in and of itself. But one of my best friends happens to live in Hell, Michigan. And there's like three people that live in Hell, Michigan. And he's like, it's not me. It's not him. So I don't know if they're actually from Hell, Michigan or if they're just making that shit up. 03:39:17.840 --> 03:39:47.800 But I have him on the case trying to figure out if this is somebody he knows. So that's amazing. Oh, no. Is he going door to door? Just. Yeah, man. He is. He and I just want to point out that first of all, his name is Dave Vontom and he is the only person on planet Earth that is an actually a huge fan of my music, particularly my old shitty original music. So props to Dave for 03:39:47.840 --> 03:39:48.440 and the only one. 03:39:49.420 --> 03:39:50.080 I love you, Dave. 03:39:51.760 --> 03:39:52.000 Hearts. 03:39:53.280 --> 03:39:55.720 Next up is an interesting one that. 03:39:56.960 --> 03:39:59.880 By the way, George, is he hard of hearing or what? 03:40:00.360 --> 03:40:00.840 I'm just joking. 03:40:01.500 --> 03:40:02.500 I was just joking, too. 03:40:02.860 --> 03:40:03.280 No, I was. 03:40:03.420 --> 03:40:06.160 I was playing a hard of hearing joke, dude. 03:40:06.320 --> 03:40:06.620 Come on. 03:40:07.960 --> 03:40:08.480 No, no. 03:40:09.040 --> 03:40:11.120 Can I just say it's nice to have George back? 03:40:11.200 --> 03:40:13.860 I don't know where he is in his alphabet, but it's. 03:40:13.960 --> 03:40:14.600 I'm an N. 03:40:14.800 --> 03:40:15.460 Close to Z. 03:40:15.880 --> 03:40:16.060 Nope. 03:40:17.080 --> 03:40:18.640 I'm on and last down one. 03:40:19.100 --> 03:40:21.660 Nosk of the void self-titled album. 03:40:21.790 --> 03:40:24.460 This is a black metal released from the comic artist, 03:40:24.900 --> 03:40:25.420 Chuck BB. 03:40:26.420 --> 03:40:28.160 You may know him from decibel magazine. 03:40:28.400 --> 03:40:31.160 He's the guy who does the stone cold lazy or whatever it is. 03:40:31.470 --> 03:40:33.900 He also actually did a comic book called black metal, 03:40:34.060 --> 03:40:34.500 which is yes, 03:40:34.710 --> 03:40:35.120 I have the, 03:40:35.120 --> 03:40:35.500 I have the, 03:40:35.500 --> 03:40:37.480 I have the Omnibus with that. 03:40:38.380 --> 03:40:39.520 So I was like, 03:40:39.560 --> 03:40:40.380 what he did an album. 03:40:40.430 --> 03:40:41.320 So I had to listen to this. 03:40:42.100 --> 03:40:44.040 Next is Paranorm Empyrean. 03:40:44.080 --> 03:41:12.660 First Album Swedish Thrash mentioned already. So I can I can take that and move on to this next one, which I thought was just fucking hilarious. So you've heard of a philosopher, right? Obviously, you know, a philosopher. Somebody's like, hmm. Well, this band is called Phallosopher. So to me, you know, a philosopher is somebody who ponders things and thinks about issues. 03:41:12.740 --> 03:41:40.900 A Phallocopher is somebody who stares at their dick and goes, isn't that something? Let us ponder the taint. Yes. So I was like, wow. Okay. This is a one man finished black metal band. But for this, I had to look up a dick joke. So why did the penis cross the road? I don't know. It was stuck in the chicken. 03:41:52.399 --> 03:42:08.540 You know, there's a gaping hole on your humor. Well, honestly, I went through a lot of them. I want you to know I worked on this and I went through a lot of them and that was actually the best one. So. 03:42:12.780 --> 03:42:42.680 Who's not a dad. Yeah. All right. There's only like four more. Holy shit. I'm about to pee my pants. Stay on target. Spectral Lore. Their new album, which is coming out April 23rd. Matt couldn't pronounce it. I wrote it down as Greek Squiggles. It's their fifth album. I don't know what it's called, but it's really fucking good. So check that out next month when it comes out. 03:42:42.740 --> 03:43:11.840 Well, this next one comes to us from Jonah Livingston of Loud Night. He mentioned this last episode. This is Syphilitic Vaginas. The complete studio collection. Yeah, I thought you'd like that one. This one is just an insane. I just like vaginas. Yeah, so do I. You know, I was like, I have to listen to this. And I did not expect to like it as much as I did. It's like weird, crazy. 03:43:12.860 --> 03:43:41.840 It's supposed to be like Japanese, but the dude's probably, as he said, I don't think, he's not from Japan. He's like from somewhere in Europe, but. To rephrase your statement, George, you like syphilitic vaginas more than you thought you would. That's good to hear. Yeah. Just the way you, I mean. Any port in a storm, man. Any port in a storm. I prefer non-ailed vaginas myself. Jesus. 03:43:43.620 --> 03:43:46.120 It's like black speed punk. 03:43:48.899 --> 03:43:49.620 It's fun. 03:43:49.980 --> 03:43:50.800 It really is. 03:43:50.980 --> 03:43:51.920 Japanese black speed. 03:43:52.180 --> 03:43:52.760 But it's not. 03:43:53.020 --> 03:43:54.820 It's actually like Swedish or something. 03:43:55.659 --> 03:43:57.100 Oh, that's right. 03:43:57.160 --> 03:43:58.600 Okay, I remember him talking about them. 03:43:58.780 --> 03:43:59.160 Yeah. 03:43:59.800 --> 03:44:00.820 So check that out. 03:44:00.900 --> 03:44:01.480 It's on Bandcamp. 03:44:01.620 --> 03:44:01.980 Check it out. 03:44:03.400 --> 03:44:04.340 Second to last one. 03:44:04.350 --> 03:44:05.800 I don't know how to pronounce this one either. 03:44:07.000 --> 03:44:09.440 I feel like there should be an umlaut involved, but there isn't. 03:44:10.000 --> 03:44:38.700 So it's spelled T-H-R-O-N, which to me, if there was an umlaut involved, would be Throne. Throne. But it's maybe Thrawn. Thrawn. Speaking of, it's Krom-like, right? Krom! If you don't listen to it, then to hell with you. If you don't listen to hell with you. But this is their third album called Pilgrim. They're a German black metal band, and this would be probably like third place album of the month. It's really good. 03:44:40.000 --> 03:45:09.420 I'm going to pause you real fast, George, just because I meant to bring this up earlier when you guys were doing the Schwarzenegger thing. And whatever you may think about him, I think he's really mellowed in his old age. And he posts a lot of funny videos on Facebook and stuff. But I loved his vaccine. Did you see his vaccine thing where he went and got vaccinated? So when he got vaccinated and he had somebody film him, it's like he's in the car and the nurse comes up and gives the shot. It's his real shot that he's getting. And then the person with the iPhone or whoever was filming walks right up to his face and he goes, come with me if you want to live. 03:45:11.420 --> 03:45:38.800 Isn't that the best vaccine message ever, dude? Yeah, really. That's amazing. Not even his line in the movie, but I just thought that was brilliant. So please, with your last pick here. My last pick is one that I didn't think was going to make a mention, but Will did slip it in. All right, last one is Woad, Burn in Many Mirrors. Oh, I didn't say that. I should have said that too. Son of a bitch. That's out another week or two, and we got the promo. It's really good. 03:45:40.000 --> 03:46:09.360 I like it's great. It's great. I can't believe I didn't say that, that I spun that shit ton after we got the promo. I haven't listened to it in a good couple of days, but. We'll talk about it a lot, though. Yeah, we will. Yeah. And my album of the episode would be the Mirror Cognitum album. So, yeah. This month is going to be really hard to pick an album of the month, I feel. There's so many good ones. I've still got a little time to go, so. I've picked mine. Going to involve an ice pack. 03:46:11.220 --> 03:46:39.960 I think we've come down to the end of the rope here right? We have it is now the end of the road. I don't know why I always do this but I tend to pick up the mantle at the end and so I'm going to do it now again and just say Stacy is a fucking blast to have you on here dude like good time. Thank you I had so much fun this is really it was a good time I've been looking forward to it George you're just a gem thank you for having me on. You're welcome anytime. Stacy you are by far Jay's favorite guest ever. Honestly there are there's twice 03:46:39.980 --> 03:47:09.680 where you brought out more like emotion in his face than I have ever seen. Yeah, your eyes were like, oh, well, you know, I think it's everything. Well, there's two things. One is the music, but also this is just somebody who's clearly fun to hang around with. So there's that. No, she likes that. I think it was like a Caveller talk thing and you were just like, oh, I don't get to talk to people about them. Yeah. Yeah. Same. It's it is. 03:47:09.980 --> 03:47:39.900 They're not very well known, I guess. Or liked, I don't know. Or liked, or liked, right. But you do need to know, Stacy, that Will's, or excuse me, John's comment, I apparently, I'm told, and I think it's true, I tell every guest they're my favorite guest ever. So take that with a grain of salt. Okay, I will. You are. No, but you were a lot of fun, so thanks for joining us. Oh, thank you. No, it was super fun. I had a really good time. Awesome. Really great. Would you be inclined to, if you don't want to, with your last, 03:47:39.980 --> 03:48:09.560 lists. Share us. It sounded like you made a list for last year. Would you mind sharing that with us via Facebook? And if not, you could just prepare a list this year. We do have listeners do lists with us. Or you could run through the whole thing right now. My top 40 of last year? Yeah, do it. Do it. No, no, no. Okay. No? No, sorry. I mean, if you want to, go ahead. Well, no, send it to us and we'll post it on Facebook. Okay, okay. I'll send it to George. What was your number one? Give us your top 10. My top 10. Okay, can I pull it up? Yeah, yeah. 03:48:09.980 --> 03:48:39.060 1-1. Go 10-1. 10-1. 10-1. Okay, give me a second because I can't do it off the top of my head. No worries. No, no. What? Who doesn't know the top 10 off the top of their head? I love having Stacey on here. Only nobody. I forget my own birthday. We don't know ours either. We can write it down. That's fine. That's why we write it down so we don't have to remember it. I don't have to write mine down because Carcass remembers it. Hey, Willa Cook is a blonde Tom Cruise. 03:48:39.980 --> 03:49:09.240 Are you ready? Yep. Are you ready, Tom Cruise? Do it. Okay. And it's not all metal, FYI. That's funny. So, 10 was Full of Health, which, yes. We know. They had that, it was that health disco four. So, these are my favorite songs from my top albums. I should say that. Okay. Okay. No judgment. Okay. Second to Sun was nine. The Last, Mr. Bungle. The Demo? Eight, Soulstaffir. 03:49:10.739 --> 03:49:39.580 Terminal Nation Video Nasties. Yeah, good album. Napalm Death. Enslaved. That Emma Ruth Rowe. Emma Ruth Rundle that collab. And I saw her live and I was like, I went to the bathroom for most of the set and just looked at myself in the mirror. Like not into it. Not into it. But fuck when she has a band behind her. The thou thing. They're better together. 03:49:40.220 --> 03:50:09.040 Yeah, agreed, agreed. It was my number two. It was my number two album. Yeah, my number two as well. Together Alone. And then my number one was Vile Creature. Oh, right, yeah. Nice to hear the Napalm Death called out there too, by the way. Yeah, Napalm Death, yeah. That was my. Also at Death Bowl this year, so. Yeah, so excited to see them. That was a solid list. Thank you. Yeah, well done. And feel free to. Made it myself. 03:50:09.680 --> 03:50:37.980 Yeah, I saw Viola Creature around a lot. So that's awesome. Yeah, I like that Viola Creature. I'm actually surprised they made it on so many year-end lists just because, I don't know, I think they're kind of new. I mean, their last album was really good too. Yeah, this one, I think they really found something special. Agreed. Awesome. 03:50:41.739 --> 03:51:09.360 All good things come to an end. Thank you very much. It was so much fun. Thank you all for having me. It was really nice to meet you all. I can't wait to meet you all at that fucking show that we're going to. I can't think of any right now. Decimal Fest. Thank you. Yes. We'll buy you too many beers. I promise. Oh shit. Did you get the full package? I did actually. Well then we don't need to buy you any beers because you're going to have plenty. No, I'll have that. 03:51:09.680 --> 03:51:28.420 I'll have that wristband too. Good. All right. Hey, peace out, fellas. Yep. Thanks for coming on. And we'll see everybody else next time. Good night. Too long. The month takes forever to get to this cast. So now the guys. All right. Peace. All right. Thanks, everybody. 03:52:15.400 --> 03:52:37.940 Hey, this is an apology to the Metalheads podcast. I always thought you guys were the longest running program ever in the history of anything. That is, until I saw the Zack Snyder Justice League cut. Look, I take it all back. You guys are basically a half hour sitcom.