WEBVTT 00:00:00.020 --> 00:00:05.300 Metalhead Podcast, Metalhead Podcast, go! 00:00:26.260 --> 00:00:28.020 You must listen. 00:00:29.140 --> 00:00:30.180 You must listen. 00:00:31.260 --> 00:00:32.580 You must listen. 00:00:36.400 --> 00:00:39.980 Now, here is the podcast, Metal Heads Podcast. 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:42.760 Hello, and welcome to the Metal Heads Podcast. 00:00:43.140 --> 00:00:44.080 My name is George. 00:00:45.220 --> 00:00:51.580 This is Jay, and I'd like to suggest we leave a uncomfortable pause where Will would normally speak after his own uncomfortable pause. 00:00:53.220 --> 00:00:53.660 Well done. 00:00:54.950 --> 00:00:55.500 This is John. 00:00:55.660 --> 00:01:25.580 This is Matt. This is Markisan. And today we have three guests with us and they come from varied and overlapping bands. So let me see if I can sort this out properly. Joining us tonight are Galen, Chris, and Carl. Now our listeners may recall Galen and Chris from when we've had them on with their previous band in Farah Borough. Now on permanent hiatus as Facebook tells me. But today Chris is here to tell us about his new band Scala along with bandmate Carl. 00:01:25.660 --> 00:01:52.740 Welcome, Carl. Welcome, Carl. But Carl also has another band called Alcyone. And Galen, of course, has several new projects. Currently, Street Tombs is tearing things up. And on the horizon, he also has Eridus. And of course, you may have seen him around playing bass with a little band called Wolves in the Throne Room. Did I get all of that correct? Is everybody lined up with their correct band? That's correct. Okay, excellent. Well done, George. Well done. Notes pay off. 00:01:56.220 --> 00:02:25.600 which I know is gone now. Yeah, long defunct. Yeah, defunct. Worth mentioning. And you also had that demo from Grave Chalice last year. Oh, yes. I don't know if that will ask you that later. But anyway, first question, permanent hiatus. What the hell is that supposed to mean? It's either permanent or it's a hiatus, which is a temporary thing. So what does that mean? I don't know, Chris, what do you think that means? 00:02:25.940 --> 00:02:55.360 I mean, I think that's all you didn't she come up with that? I may have come up with that. I mean, is that like, fuck you guys, but I don't really want to say fuck you guys. I think I don't know. Go ahead. I think a lot of it's a lot of it's because I moved away. Yeah. And in fairbrew was a new England band and it's pretty hard, you know, to keep a band together in different parts of the country, even if it's like a lucrative band. But if it's a band that's kind of like, you know, 00:02:56.460 --> 00:03:25.600 Just at that point, kind of like barely doing stuff. It just, you know, it's more trouble than it's worth, basically. Sure. Yeah, I kind of figured it had to do with you moving. So I just wanted to bust your chops because, you know, I liked the band, so. You like where you moved? Yeah, I mean, this is where I grew up. I've just moved back to where I'm from in Santa Fe, New Mexico. I love Santa Fe. Oh, nice. I've been here. Dude, I was just there last week or two. 00:03:25.640 --> 00:03:55.520 Right. We're house shopping. My wife and I are house shopping right now. Oh, damn. To move there because I love Santa Fe so much. Actually, honey, I'm there and I've been there multiple times. Cool. Well, hit me up when you guys are here. Jay's going to buy a ranch and then we're all going to move out to the ranch and be ranch hands and not have your jobs. I actually found a house that I think we're going to buy. This is in Arizona. The high desert in Arizona. But I love Taos, man. It was so beautiful up there. Oh, yeah. Taos is incredible. 00:03:55.660 --> 00:04:21.739 I still live in Las Cruces years ago. Okay. Yeah. Nice. But Santa Fe, lovely. Well, that's great, man. Are you kind of out of town, in town? I'm kind of in town. Mostly in town. Yeah. I'm actually like house sitting a bunch of places. I'm all over the place right now. Yeah. All right. So I've been trying to get Chris on here since our January episode to talk about the Scala album. And now it finally worked out. 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:54.540 I thought the album came out in January when it actually came out in December. And so it was eligible for our year-end list. And I didn't realize that until too late. My apologies on that. That's my bad. I get it. You don't like it. I did like it a lot. So anyway, you're here now. So Chris, tell us about Scala and your first album, The Secrecy. How did that come together? Oh, it's basically my COVID project. 00:04:55.660 --> 00:05:25.020 After Inferabruo kind of went defunct, I just had tons of ideas that I've built up over the years. I mean, we were together for what, like 10 years or 11 years? Like 11, yeah. Yeah, so I just had all these riffs, you know, saved on my phone. As Kirk Hammett has taught us, that is not a good thing to do. Totally. You know, just whistled or hummed and stuff like that. But, you know, I wouldn't record. 00:05:25.640 --> 00:05:54.960 stuff like I would make little demos and stuff of things so you know ovid uh such a weird time and this it was like an ideal time to start in you know a solo project and cobble all that stuff together and I realized that I had a lot um to get off my chest you know in terms of like a lot of personal things um um that we don't necessarily need to get into you know about like heavy shit like you know 00:05:56.600 --> 00:06:24.940 grief and, you know, the loss of a loved one and memories to, you know, the whole thing is sort of based on memories and from my childhood. And so that's how that's how that came to be, you know, and I just kind of chipped away at it methodically. And my goal was to basically get it to the level that it's at now. You know, I just wanted somebody to pick it up and put it, put it out in any form possible, you know, like digital or 00:06:24.960 --> 00:06:54.940 any other like I would have been there you go um I would have been happy with just digital you know about some right now it's out um through eternal death um on tape as well as uh digital and uh there might there's our plans for an LP possibly in the future nice uh I'm super psyched about it and I know I had Galen help me I could I also recruited a um a couple of really good friends we have Carl here who did vocals and uh Monsters job and um also 00:06:55.580 --> 00:07:24.760 who I was in a band with previously. And yeah. And so, you know, they, they, they made it special, you know, like, yeah, I have some dumb riffs on there, but these guys, man, these guys, these guys, that's the way I feel about the podcast. I'm like, I could just sit here and talk all day, but it's nothing without these guys. So if I recall, and I don't, what I don't recall is how much of it was spent there, but you're from, 00:07:24.820 --> 00:07:54.540 the Czech Republic. When did you come here? Maybe 10 or so. I was just a lad. Yeah. And there is no accent, first of all. I think that's why. But I ask because you mentioned the childhood memories thing, and I'm wondering how much of those memories were formed in the Czech Republic and how much were formed here. It's all about the memories from the Czech Republic. Mainly, I just have these, 00:07:54.820 --> 00:08:24.780 like amazing memories from scala basically refers to just this sort of nature preserve and this like rocky outcropping that's you know the center of it that's that was near our summer cottage and uh it was just this like magical place you know that we would go to and like go mushroom mushroom hunting and just like i would make up all sorts of crazy stories about it in my head you know and it's it's still with me um 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:54.740 and I needed to. And I was, it was a great way to kind of like wrap it all up. Yeah. Yeah. The Soviet Dacha culture, right? Is it? Yeah. The word Dacha probably, but yeah, I mean, that's a Russian word. Totally. You know, it's a lot of Czech people have that, but you know, where they have these like cottages where they always flee to from, from the city or for weekends and stuff like that. Um, are they like in blocks? Like they are in Russia, just one right next to the other in some places, or is it different than that? It's, it's, 00:08:54.820 --> 00:09:24.560 It's different everywhere you go, but ours was in like a super, I mean, it wasn't too far out of, away from Prague. It was like an hour out or something, but it was in a village, like just a tiny little amazing village surrounded by fields and, you know, all the locals and stuff. It was just so cool and like authentic, you know? Is it still in the family or is it? Yeah. It's still in the family. Well, that's good to hear. My aunt owns it. Yeah. Cool. And I've been there once. 00:09:24.820 --> 00:09:54.780 actually since then maybe like five years ago and it was pretty mind-blowing. Yeah, I hope she never sells it. My sister has something like that in Norway. Granted, they're already like right on the fjord for their main place, but then they've got a place that they go to on another lake and you have to like walk the last mile because there's no road and you have to like carry everything and you know, it's fucking remote. Yeah, I think that's what the dachas are too. I think usually those are like in the middle of forests 00:09:54.800 --> 00:10:24.780 and stuff, right? Aren't those kind of secluded? And they have those weird saunas and stuff, and they whip each other with sticks and whatnot? Yeah, no, you're getting into Finland there, but yeah. But yes, I think, I mean, that Soviet reach, really, that was such a big cultural thing, and not just Soviet society, but that's, well, anyway, it's interesting to hear. Our bass player, a dear friend of mine you may not know is from Ukraine, and he's immediately trying to put a dot to the 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:30.640 Yeah, he's a cool dude. 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:33.160 That's why you met him. Okay. 00:10:35.220 --> 00:10:40.140 So it sounds like writing this album was pretty cathartic for you then, because you had a lot of issues going on. 00:10:41.220 --> 00:10:45.700 Yeah, it sort of felt like I was just getting it all out. 00:10:48.950 --> 00:10:53.660 It was so many different things that I always wanted to touch on in music, but 00:10:55.860 --> 00:11:22.380 It was nice to put it all in one package and just have it be tied up in these memories that I find really special. But there's also a lot of pain and grief that I'm still going through. But it definitely has a cathartic vibe to it, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I love that record. I've played it a lot, actually. Thank you, I appreciate that. I'm with George. I kind of wish it wasn't out at the end of the year. 00:11:23.660 --> 00:11:53.360 You guys should include December for your 2022. I'm just saying. That would make sense. It's a very common excuse with guests. We always say, gosh, I was going to put that on my list. It's George's fault. It is my fault. It was a squeaker. So, Carl, how did you get hooked up with Chris? We met a bunch of years back. We did a tour together. My old band, Autolotry and Infera. 00:11:55.180 --> 00:12:23.600 And we just kept in touch. I sent him an Alcion track. Told him if he had anything going on, I'd be happy to do vocals on it because I love him so much. He sent me the Scala stuff and I was stoked on it real hard. Got together, climbed in a closet and recorded some vocals. Yeah, they sound great, so well done. The vocal session was pretty intense. It was funny. 00:12:24.940 --> 00:12:53.480 So you said this was your COVID project. How long has it been in the works? Since the beginning of COVID? Or did you have stuff beforehand and it was COVID that just sort of gave you focus? There's a few bits here and there that I tried to pitch to Inferra, which didn't really fly. Caitlin's like, fuck you. No, go away. I'm moving. Fuck this. I can't even stay on the same coast as you. I'm out of here. It's just dark enough. Fuck this. Yeah, so bits and pieces. 00:12:53.660 --> 00:13:23.580 like, you know, riffs, strings of riffs, but no, most of it was just random riffs. And, you know, it was kind of like putting a puzzle together, like making it into actual songs and stuff. But that was the other awesome part about this is that I was able to kind of draw on what we, all the dudes that I met here, you know, in New England and having them all help me out. And Galen mixed it and he ripped a couple solos on it. And, you know, he was, 00:13:23.680 --> 00:13:52.920 It's kind of my sounding board. I ran a lot of stuff by him and showed him stuff prematurely. Songs, not private parts. You got to be clear about that on this podcast. Will's not here, but still probably safe. But yeah, you know, Autolotry was I think actually the first band that we played a live gig with, with Inferra. Yeah, I think that's true. Yeah. 00:13:53.120 --> 00:14:23.080 And it was awesome. We completely connected with those dudes. And we went on tour with them around the New England area. We bonded pretty seriously. Yeah, that was special. Yeah, that was awesome. And since then, all those dudes are doing their own thing musically. And Carl Sprout often is a death metal monster now. And I'm sure he'll tell you about that. Yeah, we'll get there. First off, just looking at Carl, if you've 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:51.460 If you guessed his name was anything but Carl, you'd be an idiot because he looked like Carl. Shout out for the death revenge. Definitely. Yeah, exhumed. Oh, yeah. Also note the signature nipple that he's exposing. That's classic Carl. Well, there's some suggestive things going on there with what I think is a dog's head. Yeah, this is Mr. Freeze is sitting on my lap. Oh, it's not a hot blonde then. 00:14:55.819 --> 00:15:21.820 Anyway, so tell me about the... Aw, there's so many cats on here. We don't get enough dogs. He's an old man. Did you say Mr. Freeze's name? Yeah. That is awesome. He's a 15-year-old Yorkie. Oh, I got to see more of this Yorkie. I'm a Yorkie man myself. All I see is... Show us your Yorkie. Oh, yeah. I love Yorkies. 00:15:23.100 --> 00:15:51.480 I love Yorkies, man. I used to have a Yorkie. Yeah, he's the best. I love him. So tell me about this album cover, Chris. It's like golden fields of grain. That's actually right near Scala. I'm trying to figure out how to shorten all these stories. This is a Metal Heads podcast. We don't have to shorten anything. 00:15:54.240 --> 00:16:23.060 I'll be yammering and nonstop about it. No, it's my, it was taken by my father actually, cause I, they were in the Czech Republic when I was trying to figure out the artwork for this. And, um, I actually found a really cool picture of it. Um, but that I was going to use quote unquote borrow without permission. But Galen turned me right around and said, Hey man, that's not cool, bro. You should probably ask. I looked into it and I actually found like a, 00:16:23.100 --> 00:16:53.080 the lady that, you know, actually the magazine that owned the rights and was a bit too much, too pricey for my blood. But my parents were in the Czech Republic at the time. So I thought, you know, would you be able to, would you be cool enough to go and take some pictures for me, you know? And my father took a bunch of pictures of the actual rock itself, the cliff. And I didn't like any of it, but then this was kind of like a, just a random picture that he threw in, you know? And it's like, it has part of the road that leads up to the 00:16:53.140 --> 00:17:20.160 to it. That's kind of on the right side of it. I thought it was really cool and striking. I just remember that feels pretty vividly. I thought it would be a cool cover. I want to start singing Sting, man. How much did you pay your dad for it? Yeah. Zero. He was giving me this shit the other day. What are my royalties, bro? 00:17:23.120 --> 00:17:50.120 from going in the hole because he had to pay off getting sued for using somebody's artwork. What if Scala blows up, man? I'm like, eh, that's not going to happen. Well, you know, it could be controversy. You know, if you blow it up big enough in the news, then people all over will pick it up and then you'll break even. You reminded me of my good morals, which I appreciate. So the title, The Secrecy, what's that all about? 00:17:54.580 --> 00:18:23.040 You know, actually, I'm not too sure. It's a secret. It actually comes from the song that Carl wrote lyrics to. Maybe Cockling's playing. Which are awesome. Yeah, so if you want to take a stab at it, I used it because, first of all, it sounds awesome, and second of all, it kind of made sense in terms of, like, you know, all these weird, like, stories and stuff that I would make up about Scala and, like, you know, the weird shit that went on there. 00:18:23.120 --> 00:18:48.160 and like, you know, demons and witches at night dancing around fires. So it kind of made sense in that way that like it's this weird secret part of my childhood, you know, just because I don't know, it's got like a supernatural vibe to it for me, you know, so it seemed to fit. But Carl, tell us what it's really about. I have no idea, man. 00:18:51.280 --> 00:18:53.960 I was just coming up with some cool words 00:18:54.580 --> 00:18:55.600 you know that fit 00:18:56.020 --> 00:18:57.680 the theme that Chris gave me and 00:18:58.840 --> 00:19:00.060 that's basically what came out 00:19:00.140 --> 00:19:00.980 it's like a ritual 00:19:02.420 --> 00:19:04.140 bringing back some demons I don't know anything 00:19:04.380 --> 00:19:05.660 about and you know 00:19:06.140 --> 00:19:07.980 just typed some shit into chat GPT 00:19:08.060 --> 00:19:08.980 and said what do you got 00:19:10.100 --> 00:19:11.780 my head but basically 00:19:12.580 --> 00:19:14.240 it was just like ah these words 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:16.140 fit cool I make 00:19:16.220 --> 00:19:17.960 the sounds first obviously and then 00:19:18.220 --> 00:19:19.780 just kind of plug in words afterwards 00:19:20.220 --> 00:19:23.420 I was going to guess it referred to the unexposed nipple. 00:19:24.940 --> 00:19:26.000 No, they're both exposed. 00:19:29.300 --> 00:19:29.960 There it is. 00:19:30.980 --> 00:19:34.700 I was actually just thinking we should have probably had somebody on who knows something about this record. 00:19:37.800 --> 00:19:38.460 Maybe next time. 00:19:38.560 --> 00:19:39.520 That would have been good. 00:19:43.620 --> 00:19:46.900 There's a lot more going on in that song, bro, lyrically. 00:19:47.050 --> 00:19:47.360 Come on. 00:19:47.410 --> 00:19:49.520 Yeah, no, I mean, it's just hard to explain. 00:19:49.740 --> 00:20:19.560 I don't really. Well, it describes some kind of like weird ritual where these like demons hypnotize all the fucking peasants in the countryside and slaughter them ritualistically. And then it grows into like a legend that's, you know, told around campfires for the rest of eternity or something like that. It's metal. It's metal. Yeah, exactly. It's metal because that is fucking metal. That's pretty great. Yeah, a little cathartic to the whole slaughtering thing. Yeah, everyone dies at the end because, 00:20:19.740 --> 00:20:49.020 You know, that's how everything works on everything I do. No survivors. There's no survivors on any record I've ever been a part of. Your last record, you should have one survivor, the final girl or something. Oh, you know what? I want to go ahead. I'm sorry. You see, I'm excited. Now we're going to bring up, you guys had Dave Kaminsky on. Yeah. Yeah. So from Stonehealer. So he was, he was, 00:20:49.720 --> 00:21:19.640 with Carl. Yep. That's why that's familiar. We love talking to that guy, by the way. He was, he's a nice guy. Yeah. Great album too. Yeah. Super creative. Yeah. Super talented dude too. He, uh, worked on a bunch of the, and for our Brule records, um, he's got his own studio. So he's a very talented, um, recording guy. Now, Chris, is there going to be more scholars? It's just like a one and done thing. I didn't think there would be, uh, and for a while. 00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:49.059 I just thought I was kind of done you know I just wanted to get this out but lately I've been and I kind of felt like I sort of lost my muse too for a while because I was going through some shit and you know once once that passed I'm actually like super back into it now again like I'm writing tons of stuff and I kind of want to write another record yeah awesome that's great I'm pretty excited about it yeah it's awesome we'll see what happens 00:21:49.060 --> 00:22:18.640 You guys gonna do any local shows? I mean, you got you got you got enough people you can pull together, right? Yeah, even just like a record release party or something, you know, I mean, this kind of ties back into why in Farrah, I think kind of ran out of steam, you know, we like playing local shows and stuff, which there's kind of a split between Galen and, you know, the one of the other dudes who were who wanted to take the next level and start touring. I don't know, you know, make a lifestyle out of it, basically. 00:22:19.060 --> 00:22:48.660 And then me and the drummer who were just, you know, were these old fuddy-duddies who grew fine with it just being like a local weekend warrior thing, you know. And so we kind of butted heads about that. And, you know, that's why Gail ended up moving away, I believe, right? That's part of the reason, yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's one of those, there's only so many years of kind of like dragging people along with you. Yeah. Where you got to be like, well, 00:22:49.080 --> 00:23:16.020 Maybe I should play music with people I don't have to drag along. And what's great about, you know, my relationship with Chris is I can say that, you know, about him and he's not getting offended. Bring it on. Yeah. So that's kind of why I sort of want to stay away from trying to make this a live thing. First of all, I'm aging out. Like, you know, it's embarrassing at this point. And just be like Fendras, man. Fuck that. 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:46.140 I mean, I could see that if like, Scala got actually popular enough to like, got invited to some kind of cool festival or something like that, which, you know, that'd be awesome. And at that point, I would try to put together a live man about like, doing the live during the local shows again, man, it's it can be so depressing, you know, like, especially post COVID, dude. I mean, it really is. Yeah, I haven't even been up to a show yet because of COVID. 00:23:46.980 --> 00:24:16.820 you and a whole bunch of other people. So all the more reason. I mean, it is. It's not. I mean, yeah, even before COVID, you would drive five places somewhere to play to an empty room, you know, like fucking kill me. And Gail would be like, it's a part of the gig. It's part of the process, man. It's metal. And yeah, it is. I just couldn't take it anymore, you know. That's cool. It's understandable. Totally. This isn't a question. I don't think we really necessarily said this. 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:45.980 Yeah, it's been so long. Did we run into you maybe at an MDF? Was that maybe the last time? It was a decibel. Oh, you came to decibel. Cool. Yeah, both Chris and Galen were at decibel. But I've seen Galen at MDF and, well, several MDFs. Last time I was like, that's Galen up there on the stage with Coroner. Oh, shit, that's right. 00:24:46.980 --> 00:24:48.600 I didn't know about that one but 00:24:49.280 --> 00:24:50.720 yeah then there was like the 20 00:24:52.360 --> 00:24:52.560 probably 00:24:52.780 --> 00:24:53.980 2019 MDF 00:24:54.730 --> 00:24:56.320 that was the one with like Dothheim's guard 00:24:56.700 --> 00:24:57.960 satirica remember that one 00:24:59.000 --> 00:24:59.580 sorry that one 00:25:00.600 --> 00:25:02.300 you saw Galen there 00:25:03.100 --> 00:25:04.780 Chris saw them the night 00:25:04.950 --> 00:25:05.600 after I think right 00:25:06.050 --> 00:25:07.780 I saw Medvitas and it was 00:25:08.590 --> 00:25:09.240 pretty mind-blowing 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:12.860 alright well if there's no more questions for Chris 00:25:13.100 --> 00:25:14.060 I'm going to move on to 00:25:15.580 --> 00:25:16.940 my next spiel 00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:46.840 So we haven't done this in a while, but we're going to be playing some songs for you tonight. And the first one is a Scala track called Spirit from their new album, The Secrecy. Chris, what can you tell us about this song before we play it? It's actually about my beloved grandmother who passed on and, you know, not to make this a bummer, but she was just like a super special person to me. And she actually used to watch me and my brother over the summers at our cottage. 00:25:51.240 --> 00:26:16.920 and it was completely irresponsible of her but it was amazing because she would just let us go off on our own and like do whatever the fuck we wanted and so yeah it's kind of a dedication to her and you know she was just a one of a kind what was her name Vera okay and how long ago does she pass about five years now 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:32.920 What ripe old age did she reach? I think she got up to 90, like 91 or 92 or something. Yeah, she was, she was, uh, they don't make them like that anymore. Yep. Here you go. Check it out. 00:26:46.940 --> 00:27:00.360 A man wrote a fantastic day 00:27:16.940 --> 00:27:20.940 So I can't wait for you. 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.940 I'm not gonna lie in me. 00:27:31.600 --> 00:27:34.560 She loves my brain. 00:27:40.940 --> 00:27:44.240 Do I just want to die? 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:53.120 How precious do I? 00:27:56.840 --> 00:28:00.500 The very strange present 00:28:02.940 --> 00:28:04.920 Filing, frozen 00:28:32.940 --> 00:28:35.420 The feelings of feelings down 00:28:36.760 --> 00:28:39.820 You're the most of the system 00:30:49.900 --> 00:30:54.580 All the night of silver proof 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:06.100 She spoke of the burdensome of her life 00:31:10.560 --> 00:31:13.440 She lost my pain 00:31:14.180 --> 00:31:18.420 And she knew that it was time 00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:27.119 That we both knew I'd like 00:31:37.860 --> 00:31:57.100 I'm so like 00:32:11.580 --> 00:32:25.880 Okay, so that was Spirit by Scala from the album The Secrecy, and you should pick that up on Bandcamp right now. All right, then we're going to move on to Carl. So you have a band as well called Alcyone? 00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:28.760 Yeah, that's my main project, I'd say. 00:32:28.980 --> 00:32:29.940 So what's going on with that? 00:32:30.740 --> 00:32:32.620 We actually just finished our record. 00:32:33.120 --> 00:32:37.960 We're looking for a label right now to help us put it out, doing the artwork, 00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:40.880 sending out EPKs, all that kind of stuff. 00:32:41.740 --> 00:32:43.200 Tell us about this kind of music. 00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.120 I don't know how to describe it accurately. 00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:52.280 Progressive extreme metal, I guess, is as close as I can get. 00:32:52.580 --> 00:32:54.740 It kind of goes all over the place. 00:32:55.620 --> 00:33:25.600 starts like a traditional black metal record and then very quickly veers off into a tech death record and I don't know there's a lot of weird stuff going on it's cool you know we go hard we go deep and we go fast oh if Will was here I'm gonna have to back this up for a second so that today it was great I really liked that one a lot thanks and 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:54.740 I see you've got looks like a self-titled release back from 2015. Yeah, I'm not actually on that one. Oh, well then fuck that. The main. Oh, no, no. It's still it's part of our history. We don't play any songs from it when we play live. But oh, yeah, I see that. Look at that exists. We play one. We play one track every once in a while. High Wraith. But other than that, that record. I don't know. It wasn't the band yet. It was just Sean and our drummer Greg. And so. 00:33:56.160 --> 00:34:25.600 Sean decided to put together a live band and in doing so we wound up writing this nutty record that makes no sense compared to the other one and it's almost a different band now so it's sort of like Pantera the hair metal years versus Pantera the cowboys from hell years not as extreme but yeah there was that 2015 record there was a single in 2020 were you on that one Carl yeah yeah yeah I'm on the single that single was originally on the first record it was just we were supposed to play show 00:34:26.180 --> 00:34:55.580 and then COVID killed all of them. So we were like, oh, let's just get together and re-record the one song we play from that record. They were doing something. So that's what we did. So how did you hook up with these guys? So Sean was in Autolotry with me. Greg was in Obsidian Tongue, who we also toured with. Yeah, so we long history together and we hadn't seen each other in years. Got some grilled cheese and beer and, you know, he was like, 00:34:55.639 --> 00:35:24.400 Like, hey, you want to join the band? And I was like, yep. All right. Do you guys have a name for this new album yet? Or is it still? The Cult of Kukulkan. Cool. Say that one more time. Cult of Kukulkan. Kukulkan? Kukulkan, yeah. It's a Mayan god of, like, the dead and snakes or some shit. I don't know. Nobody gets out alive, man. Nobody gets out alive, so that's all that matters. Cool. We had, um, 00:35:26.660 --> 00:35:55.600 for from Voivod do a couple solos on the last track on the record how did you do that like I don't know how did you find it yeah Sean is a wizard he's a wild card and he pulled some strings and I don't know how he did it but he's on the track and it's gnarly man awesome big boy about that was it done at a distance or were you able to yeah yeah no it was done at a distance that was still like height of COVID this record actually it's only five songs it's close to 00:35:55.620 --> 00:36:25.580 40 minutes and it took us five years to finish it. That's a year at track. Yeah. That's a very cool addition though too and that guy does man I mean he for him having replaced such a weird guitarist in the first place and to have done it successfully by being his own weird guitarist. He's insane. I mean to be fair though my guitar players are no slouches either. Sean and Ray are just as silly and have parts on this record that I was I'm still blown 00:36:27.460 --> 00:36:51.800 Awesome. That's awesome, man. That's a good score. Yeah, I got lucky. I don't even know. Sean knows all that information. But all I know is I got lucky that I can make some crazy noises with my face. And people want to hear those crazy noises. People want to hear them. All right. Well, is there anything else you want to tell us about the band? 00:36:55.620 --> 00:36:57.500 We're gonna be shooting a video soon 00:36:57.700 --> 00:36:59.400 hopefully for the song that we're gonna play later 00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:03.700 It's the most varied thing I've ever done 00:37:03.720 --> 00:37:05.700 with my voice and it's pretty nutty 00:37:05.900 --> 00:37:07.660 so hope everyone digs it 00:37:08.040 --> 00:37:09.780 Awesome, well do you want to talk 00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:12.160 about the song? It's called Ensconcing Sorcery 00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:14.320 Yeah, it's the middle track 00:37:14.460 --> 00:37:14.960 on the album 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:17.860 Basically the album is a concept 00:37:18.140 --> 00:37:19.400 record from beginning to end 00:37:19.980 --> 00:37:21.640 You know, one story 00:37:22.940 --> 00:37:24.240 A guy's son kills himself 00:37:24.240 --> 00:37:51.860 He jumps off a cruise ship to try to kill himself. Doesn't succeed. Gets brought in by some shamans. They start poisoning him trying to resurrect Prince of Mayan something against some tree and they try to impregnate some chick with his severed head and then he manages to kill them all. And then he dies because nobody gets on live. And then he dies. Yeah. So it's just basically your basic three's company episode if I'm not wrong. 00:37:55.660 --> 00:37:57.000 We've been waiting for you. 00:37:59.780 --> 00:38:02.080 Those of us who laugh the hardest dated ourselves. 00:38:05.180 --> 00:38:06.560 It's like Three's Company, what? 00:38:08.260 --> 00:38:08.700 Oh, Jack. 00:38:09.580 --> 00:38:12.240 All right, well, here is Ensconcing Sorcery. 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:12.720 Check it out. 00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:27.200 "Dramatic Music" 00:38:42.820 --> 00:39:12.800 The world is a new world 00:39:35.080 --> 00:39:38.300 The fire is gathering, pregnant, 00:39:42.820 --> 00:39:48.520 The light of the children of the lives 00:39:49.300 --> 00:39:53.360 Sustaining up awesome metrolene 00:39:54.380 --> 00:39:56.660 Entering astral projections 00:39:57.940 --> 00:39:59.320 Freeing his spirits 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:01.600 From his own accord 00:40:02.140 --> 00:40:05.280 Cursing up the dead into the promises 00:40:09.820 --> 00:40:14.180 Green eyes of ritual walls, the sickness takes over 00:40:16.160 --> 00:40:19.080 He waits for this 00:40:20.660 --> 00:40:27.340 Carbanks and they commence a hearing of his mortal 00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:32.240 Sempting a man in a missing form 00:40:33.060 --> 00:40:36.820 The plurling ashes fall into the shell 00:40:36.820 --> 00:40:39.640 The light is still in the 00:41:30.080 --> 00:41:33.860 What did you stop worrying? 00:41:33.860 --> 00:41:57.120 They hydrated and stormed, concealed by the cloak of dawn along the mountainside. To take the stream of swear, rooted and unloved, escaped, denuncing barrier, the foolish were to leave. 00:42:23.580 --> 00:42:40.760 The title of your favorite boy The title of the secret boy was now instant There's a taste of victory, and there's some of it 00:42:41.180 --> 00:42:45.840 No one can use goals 00:42:48.100 --> 00:42:49.360 Because you're 00:43:18.420 --> 00:43:37.640 Take it, I did, bestowing the crown of thorns Spellbound by this ensconcing sorcery 00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:07.860 The fires are gathered in fragments, watching their heads as they reside in our souls, inviting the crevents to us and to take, 00:44:08.060 --> 00:44:27.160 They're not going to 00:45:05.540 --> 00:45:08.040 Суберна, великий, мил 00:45:08.060 --> 00:45:19.220 The angels call the blood, but I'll steal the sky. He fails. Psychicness. Psychicness. 00:45:42.240 --> 00:46:08.040 Atonalus will he must concede Into the hands of sorcery Credence and powers he vanerates Forming allegiance with the snake Atonalus will he must concede 00:46:08.080 --> 00:46:38.040 Into the hands of sorcery Credence in powers he venerates Forming allegiance with the snake Autonomous will he must concede Into the hands of sorcery Credence in powers he venerates 00:46:46.000 --> 00:47:07.840 All right. And that was Ensconcing Sorcery from Alcyone. And hopefully we'll be able to tell you soon where you can find that. But in the meantime, this is the only place you can hear it. Yes. Yes, that's right. This is a world exclusive. Exclusive. All righty. Let's move on to Galen. You're one busy, busy dude, brother. 00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:37.080 Touring with Wolves in the Throne Room, you've got the recently released Street Tombs album, Reclusive Decay, which by the way was Will's album of the month last month. Oh, nice. And then around the corner you've got another project called Aridus. So let's start with Street Tombs. Tell us about that. Street Tombs has existed prior to me joining. They've been around since 2018. But when I moved back to Santa Fe, 00:47:38.060 --> 00:48:07.760 My probably oldest friend Ben, who plays drums in that band, immediately hit me up and was like, hey, you should come jam with us. So I did. And it was, you know, awesome riffs. Yeah, and I immediately was just like, all right, let's do this. And I've been playing with them since then. I know you more for black metal, and this is death metal. Not to pigeonhole you or anything, but. 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:36.820 No, I mean, well, you know, I played and trapped them for many years. That's, that's true. Yeah, that's true. Um, but I have pretty broad tastes. Uh, and part of it was just that Ben was, you know, I literally someone I've known since I was four years old, probably the first person I met, you know, first friend I ever had. Um, so when he asked me to jam, I was like, sure, whatever, you know, well, I trust that what you're doing is cool. And, um, 00:48:39.860 --> 00:49:05.100 It's got a lot of connections to the Santa Fe kind of punk hardcore scene, which is a lot different than East Coast hardcore. And I was drawn to that kind of punky, grimy, deathy kind of thing. Awesome. And this is the first album from the band, right? There's some demos in there, which I'm guessing you were a part of. 00:49:08.080 --> 00:49:36.120 on LP as well. Awesome. Both the first and second demo are awesome. Really cool. The riffs are fucking great. But this is the first thing that's on a proper label. Are you guys playing shows? We're playing shows. We're working on a tour. Hopefully I'll have some info about that soon. 00:49:38.060 --> 00:50:08.040 We were lucky enough to get a booking agent recently. So the crawlspace booking, which has a lot of cool artists on them, like Necrot and various others. So hopefully they can get us a cool tour soon and we can get out in the world. Nice. I saw Decibel gave you guys an eight. Yeah, really cool. It's a cool band because I 00:50:08.060 --> 00:50:38.040 I feel like there's kind of something for most metalheads in it to be to think you know most people will hear and be like all right well I can I can hang with that part even if they don't like this other part so it's kind of an easy band in the sense that yeah like wherever we play they're usually good shows people like the band there seems to be a good momentum so yeah everyone's super supportive yeah do you know where the name street tombs came from Caitlin 00:50:40.720 --> 00:50:43.660 I just wonder what is the 00:50:44.370 --> 00:50:46.040 reasoning behind it like how did it come up 00:50:46.710 --> 00:50:49.500 it was before my time 00:50:50.740 --> 00:50:52.540 I don't know if it goes that deep 00:50:55.340 --> 00:50:57.100 tombs in the street that sounds 00:50:57.780 --> 00:51:01.060 cool sounding kind of refers to like that street punk stuff 00:51:01.530 --> 00:51:04.620 and I think it was you know something everybody agreed on 00:51:04.980 --> 00:51:06.460 so cool 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:07.360 Yeah. 00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:10.180 I got a quick question. Hey, 00:51:10.500 --> 00:51:10.600 Galen, 00:51:10.780 --> 00:51:12.040 if you guys are going to go on tour, 00:51:12.220 --> 00:51:14.340 are you planning on not bringing in any merch with you? 00:51:14.520 --> 00:51:17.200 Give it all the merch controversy going on right now with bands. 00:51:18.560 --> 00:51:19.380 I'm being sarcastic, 00:51:19.580 --> 00:51:19.920 of course, 00:51:20.060 --> 00:51:20.580 but you know, 00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:20.960 well, 00:51:21.050 --> 00:51:22.360 I think it's the nice thing. 00:51:22.500 --> 00:51:27.840 One of the positive things about being a small band is that's not an issue that we 00:51:27.980 --> 00:51:28.900 have to deal with yet. 00:51:29.660 --> 00:51:32.180 Or I could just sell it from your van or bus down the street, 00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:32.620 you know, 00:51:32.680 --> 00:51:33.280 after the show. 00:51:33.700 --> 00:51:34.600 I've seen that's happening. 00:51:34.650 --> 00:51:34.880 I mean, 00:51:34.980 --> 00:51:35.360 I've seen, 00:51:35.860 --> 00:51:36.260 I've seen, 00:51:36.320 --> 00:52:06.040 I saw Mayhem posted something about that. They're like, if you want merch, come outside. You should have a portable tomb and put it in the street and then sell it. There you go. You want to buy a vowel? No, I don't think we'd have that problem. The venues would be playing. I never thought, I mean, I already knew that was happening, but I didn't realize that the percentages had increased that much the past couple of years. It's pretty criminal. I mean, 00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:11.880 There's that certain mid-level where it's really screwing you over. 00:52:12.850 --> 00:52:13.120 Oh, yeah. 00:52:15.500 --> 00:52:25.120 I think it started because there was a larger band, actually. I can't remember who it was. Was it Gojira? Somebody like them. Fans were bitching about the price of shirts. 00:52:25.850 --> 00:52:34.080 And somebody had to break that down for them, saying literally they have zero control in these venues that are owned by Live Nation for how much they can charge for their shirts. 00:52:34.610 --> 00:52:34.740 Right. 00:52:35.480 --> 00:53:03.280 And then it trickled down to bands that are playing on a smaller circuit. So, so disappointing to hear all that. Cool. Yeah. I mean, it's going to actually weed out a lot of bands that won't be able to do it, you know, because it's like, you know, one more expensive thing, you know, to keep you from making any kind of, you know. Exactly. Breaking even on tour. 00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:33.240 Are we talking about the t-shirts thing? Yeah. That's how it might be. Yeah. That's brutal. Anyway, not to be a downer, just to see. Before we move on to your new project, let's play a song from Reclusive Decay. Since it was his album of the month, I asked Will to choose the song, and he chose the opening track Wretched Remains. Oh, interesting. Can you tell us anything about this song before we play it? I mean, 00:53:34.000 --> 00:54:01.200 It's a ripper. It's a fun song. They all are. They're pretty much all rippers, yeah. There's not much to say. It's a good kick in the face. Some good death metal, some good thrash riffs. I'm guessing nobody gets out alive. Definitely not. Or as Will likes to say it's a good slap in the ass. Given the remains being so wretched. Yeah. All right, well, here you go. Check it out. 00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:27.160 ДИНАМИЧНАЯ МУЗЫКА 00:55:14.040 --> 00:55:14.080 Gönüld 00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:35.440 This is the same as the most serious, 00:55:37.100 --> 00:56:03.260 This is the most serious, 00:56:24.200 --> 00:56:28.760 The game is out. 00:57:04.500 --> 00:57:07.360 The diamond set 00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:10.520 Excelebrated with the wings 00:57:12.040 --> 00:57:12.720 Secrets 00:57:15.340 --> 00:57:17.040 Holded by a piece of load 00:57:48.080 --> 00:57:53.180 The truth, the 00:58:55.160 --> 00:59:16.600 All right, that was Wretched Remains from Street Tombs from their album Reclusive Decay. Also, you can pick that up on Bandcamp. And anywhere else you want to mention? No, go to the Carbonized Records Bandcamp. That's the spot for sure. You can get the record. They have a bunch of other cool bands on that label. And there's also some cool bands. 00:59:16.640 --> 00:59:46.620 Label-exclusive shirts as well. There's like a cool long sleeve. Sweet. Yeah. All right, then. So what's the scoop on Eridus? Eridus is, in a way, kind of a continuation of Inferibru as far as like songwriting style. Better bass player. Exactly. Yeah. It's not hard to find. No, it's something that... 00:59:46.660 --> 01:00:16.280 Again, this comes back to the hole in Fariburro, kind of ended on a... It didn't even end. It just kind of... Went on hiatus. Slowly fizzling. But that whole last record, which I'm really proud of, Rights of the Nameless, I think is an incredible record, but it was a real labor of love. There was a lot of... You know, we lost our drummer halfway through the recording. It was just a bunch of shit that made me think, you know what? I could just do all this shit myself. 01:00:16.640 --> 01:00:21.660 And, you know, it would be different, but it would be less stressful. 01:00:24.260 --> 01:00:29.960 And as soon as I moved back to Santa Fe, it was right when the COVID stuff started. 01:00:30.300 --> 01:00:35.840 So I had a lot of time to be alone and figure some stuff out. 01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:42.000 And during that time, I decided to take a stab at learning to play drums. 01:00:44.360 --> 01:01:14.260 And it got decent, decent enough to, to play what you hear on the recording. But yeah, it was, it was, it was a cool exercise. And also it was a chance to kind of reconnect with New Mexico and the high desert. And conceptually the whole album is about that. I think one thing I've learned from spending time with the Wolves in the Throne Room guys is that it's, 01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:44.200 It's important to stay rooted in your place. And I realized I'd never really written music about where I'm from and kind of like the nature that I grew up in and stuff. So it's actually similar to Scala in that sense. It's kind of, you know, relates to childhood. Like a reconnection with it. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it was a reconnection with where I'm from for sure. 01:01:44.380 --> 01:02:13.560 as far as nature and landscapes and stuff. It's gorgeous out there. That's for sure. Wow. It is. It's gorgeous. It's kind of brutal sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. And it's kind of like a midlife crisis record too. Like it's, it's very much a look back on like life and it's kind of, basically it's a concept from birth to death. But yeah, it was just, there's a lot of the lyrical stuff is a lot of, 01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:44.280 thoughts on mortality and, you know, all that shit. So you did everything on this then? Yeah. So I was just going to say, I did everything. Yeah. For the first time, I really was like, all right, I'm going to spend the time, um, do everything. And really I tried to do it, um, in like a, like really like play real drums and stuff. Cause there's a lot of basement solo black metal and stuff like that, where people are just programming drums. 01:02:44.460 --> 01:03:14.300 or electronic kit, edit the shit out of it, throw it out there. It's not hard to do with all the tools out there. You can express yourself. But I wanted to kind of make it a little more real sounding. So it's all real drums, real amps, no... No bullshit. No bullshit, yeah. So I put the time in. I think hopefully people will be able to hear that. 01:03:15.300 --> 01:03:44.240 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You gave us a song to listen to. I didn't see a title of the song. It's the title of the band. Okay. Well, that then that was my next guess. Yeah. And yeah, we got to listen to that. We're not going to play that though. Cause we don't want to die. Don't want to piss off the Germans. And who are the Germans are we referring to? Eisenwald. Yeah. That's another thing that I'm really excited about. I, 01:03:44.360 --> 01:04:14.340 I couldn't have hoped for a better collaboration. I spent a lot of time pitching it and trying to find somebody to put it out who I was really behind. As cool as Prosthetic was for Inferro Brewer, it was kind of like a weird thing. I don't know. They're not a black metal label. They have some black metal bands, but I was interested in being on 01:04:14.380 --> 01:04:20.640 a label that was like all stuff that i've listened to that i love right 01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:28.680 is incredible stuff on eisenwald um i'll not pronounce this right but that fluid steers is on there i think 01:04:29.060 --> 01:04:36.860 i love that band remember if um there was a band that really dug um temple i don't know what they call 01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:44.340 it solar temple no no it's like isn't solar temple in there yeah yeah they just released a new 01:04:44.840 --> 01:05:12.340 That's one of the voice thrower guys actually. Yeah. That's a cool label, man. Nice. Yeah, they're great. And they've been super, I mean, it's like finally a label that's like really on the same page as I am as far as like, you know, the packaging is important, you know, having the presentation is important. It's like not just kind of like throwing it out there, which is what a lot of labels do, I think. 01:05:13.660 --> 01:05:14.280 It's legit. 01:05:15.040 --> 01:05:15.920 Well, didn't they? 01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:19.580 They pulled out Falls of Roros, the last one, which is I love. 01:05:19.580 --> 01:05:19.920 They did. 01:05:20.060 --> 01:05:20.380 Yeah, they did. 01:05:21.120 --> 01:05:23.180 That was my number one album last year. 01:05:24.020 --> 01:05:24.100 Yeah. 01:05:24.520 --> 01:05:24.580 Yeah. 01:05:25.900 --> 01:05:28.080 And this is coming out in April, did you say? 01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:31.280 The release date is May 5th. 01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:31.560 May. 01:05:32.820 --> 01:05:35.280 First song will be out in a couple days. 01:05:35.460 --> 01:05:38.500 So probably before this, probably after this. 01:05:39.500 --> 01:05:39.660 Wait. 01:05:40.080 --> 01:05:41.640 No, probably before this podcast comes out. 01:05:42.240 --> 01:06:10.880 It'll probably come out on Monday or Tuesday. Okay, perfect. And then the next, there's a second song that'll be coming out next month. And then the album drops May 5th. Awesome. Yeah. Well, I liked what I heard. So looking forward to hearing the rest of that. Sounds great. Yeah. Thank you. All these albums sound great. I'm really excited for you guys. Thanks, guys. You're the coolest. 01:06:12.220 --> 01:06:42.200 So I mentioned earlier that you had that Grave Chalice demo last year. Is that like a one and done or is that going to continue? Maybe. It's hard to say. So that was a really fun project because a lot of that is similar to how Scala started was like some rejected and Farabro stuff. And when I moved back to Santa Fe, I hooked up with a guy who's a good friend of mine now, Todd White, who's a 01:06:42.220 --> 01:07:12.000 He runs a label, King Volume Records, which is like a Doom label. And he also plays a band called Heretical Sect, which I also play in now. But yeah, he's an incredible vocalist. Kind of reminds me of Aldron or just kind of psychotic. So immediately when I heard that Heretical Sect record, I was like, oh man, we should. 01:07:12.220 --> 01:07:13.320 We should do something. 01:07:14.600 --> 01:07:17.560 And I didn't realize he was like, he's a huge Impair Brewer fan as well. 01:07:17.900 --> 01:07:19.680 He was really into the last album. 01:07:21.220 --> 01:07:22.980 So it was a fun project. 01:07:25.680 --> 01:07:28.920 Whether or not it has a future, who knows, kind of depends. 01:07:31.060 --> 01:07:32.540 But it's a fun project. 01:07:32.740 --> 01:07:37.880 If you like, you know, that industrial black metal program drums kind of vibe. 01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:39.160 It's fun. 01:07:39.900 --> 01:07:40.500 It's Thorn Z. 01:07:42.500 --> 01:07:44.620 Yeah. Speaking of Aldron, 01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:46.780 he's not in the band anymore, 01:07:46.890 --> 01:07:48.480 but if you heard any of the new Dotham's guard, 01:07:49.230 --> 01:07:50.280 I listened to that song. 01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:51.180 Very cool. 01:07:51.680 --> 01:07:51.880 Yeah. 01:07:52.080 --> 01:07:52.280 It's, 01:07:52.600 --> 01:07:53.260 it's so different. 01:07:55.699 --> 01:07:56.720 But really awesome. 01:07:57.440 --> 01:07:57.500 Yeah. 01:07:57.530 --> 01:07:58.880 We got the promo the other day and I, 01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:00.200 I actually listened to it. 01:08:00.200 --> 01:08:01.220 It's like an hour and nine minutes. 01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:03.980 And I listened to the whole thing of a second time through today. 01:08:04.300 --> 01:08:05.880 And it's something, 01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:09.360 it's something it's George can't stop talking about it. 01:08:09.580 --> 01:08:09.660 Actually. 01:08:09.860 --> 01:08:11.060 George actually squealed. 01:08:12.380 --> 01:08:40.080 Squee! Tell me one thing, is there actual metal on it, or is it completely top and top? Is it all saxophone? Eh, you know, it's more metal than liturgy, although... Oh, that's a bad word. Well, actually, I've heard some of the new liturgy, and that's actually heavier than I've thought that was in years, but no, I mean, there's definitely metal in there. I think it's the second track. It's all over the place, which the first listen through, you gotta listen to it and just be like, alright, 01:08:40.720 --> 01:09:09.839 Get the Lay of the Land. Second time through, you can appreciate it for what it is. And like track two, the first vocals sound like Attila from like Day Mysteries. It's like the frog croak thing. It does that for like a verse and then it's just gone. But there's definitely metal, but there's a lot of like ethereal, you know. It's great. Sign me up. So, yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah, the Kottnick has turned into quite the vocalist. Who knew, right? Yeah. Yeah, totally. 01:09:10.740 --> 01:09:40.400 Talented Son of a Bitch. Those old records that he sings on, it's just like that one style. Yeah, exactly. And now he's very, yeah, he can kind of do it all. Kind of like Erdos. That's what he achieved, he's reaching for, you know. He doesn't know it yet, but he is. Yeah, yeah. All right. So what are all you guys listening to these days? Is there anything you've been listening to that you like this year? 01:09:40.759 --> 01:10:09.020 Anything you're looking forward to? Don't all jump in at once. Well, I feared that you would ask me, so I made some notes here. Actually, to be honest, there's nothing recent, really, if anything. I've been discovering stuff that I missed over the years, which has been super cool. I mean, the Foist Ryer stuff is always awesome. 01:10:11.300 --> 01:10:39.700 I actually draw a lot of influence from. In terms of like the... I don't know. There's a bunch of ways that I can relate to their music. You don't always have to love your home country bands, but did you like White Ward? A bunch of us dug the shit out of that last year. Are they Czech? No, they're Ukrainian. Oh, Ukrainian, my bad. Yeah. I'm not really a huge fan of them. I never was either until this last album. I loved it. 01:10:39.760 --> 01:11:09.480 I mean, it's like super competent stuff, but in terms of the actual music, it was. It doesn't work for you. Yeah. Yeah. It seemed kind of like dated, you know, like that post posty kind of shit. Yeah. Yeah. But now then like, I don't know. I mean, there's, they're a really good band. Let's put it that way. Why do you hate Ukraine? I mean, like some of the children. Um, lunar Aurora, which is a German band. 01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:11.160 Supercool, um, 01:11:12.320 --> 01:11:12.340 Powan 01:11:39.760 --> 01:12:08.520 Scattered Stuff. Let's see. Iskander is pretty cool. I think also Anaisenwald. Yeah. Yeah. Wolf Hex is cool. And there's a bunch of like Polish bands that nobody really knows that I'm into. Like Thronium. And Fuwath is actually really cool. It's a black metal version of the Saur guy. Yeah. Yeah. It's like pretty straightforward black metal but like very nicely done. 01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:37.660 Okay, somebody else go. Carl, what do you got? I mostly listen to Wake. Nice. So you're wearing a Wake shirt almost every day. Or part of one, anyway. I actually had an interaction with the guy from Wake, and he was talking about Carl. Oh, yeah? Sweet. What's up with that Carl guy? Is he retarded or something? No, he was very complimentary. Wake the nipple. That's true. 01:12:39.740 --> 01:13:08.800 His performances and stuff? Or the nipple stuff? No, he knew him as a fan. He was saying something about Carl. Nice. Yeah, no, so I flew to Denver to hang out with those dudes at the Decibel Metal and Beer Fest. And then the next day, I think they were playing with Galen. Yeah, I mean, they're pretty big on this podcast. Oh, yeah. So, yeah. 01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:36.880 Yeah. So I first met them back in 2012 when Autology was on tour. We just happened to be overlapping in Orlando and we played a show and it was just a gnarly crazy show and then I relinked up with them last year I think right before Thought Form of Descent came out and you know we go back and forth and it's fun and that was my favorite record of the year. It's powerful shit. 01:13:38.280 --> 01:14:08.240 Yeah, it was pretty high on our combined list. It was number two on my list. But the album before, that was number one on my list. So yeah, pretty big week then. Yeah. And honestly, I feel like it was the Decibel, maybe 2019 was the first time I ever heard them play live and blew my fucking mind. And I've just been like gangbusters ever since. Well, the last two records, they've leveled up so much. Oh, totally. What they were before. And I liked the records before. 01:14:10.280 --> 01:14:38.120 Yeah, they really found their sound, man. Agreed, yeah. New Enslaved. Yes. We might like that band. A little. All right. I wasn't on the last podcast, and you guys talked about Enslaved. I think it was for like 25 minutes, and I was sad I wasn't there to talk about the record with you guys. Well, you can talk about it today. 01:14:38.300 --> 01:15:07.300 If you want. I will. I will. All right. Galen, what about you? What you got? Um, no, let's see what I've been listening to. I've been listening to a lot of Satan that last, that last year I thought was insane. And it might be their best, their best reformation record. Honestly, it's so funny. They were just here last night and next week. So actually maybe it's tonight. Anyway, Satan's fucking great, dude. 01:15:08.280 --> 01:15:38.240 I don't know, renaissance. Seriously, yeah, incredible. That made my list last year too, that one. Yeah, that's probably top of the list for me as far as last year goes. I don't know, I've been listening to a lot of old Master's Hammer and Psy recently, just for some reason. That new Psy is awesome. Just that weird, it's just a perfect mix of like raw, kind of loose, but still extremely strong. 01:15:40.880 --> 01:16:07.300 There's so many bands these days that sound like a computer made them. Everything's so tight and edited. I kind of miss that loose stuff. All right. Anything you're looking forward to? Music loose. Not that I can think of offhand right now. 01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:37.660 I'd have to look at a list of what's actually coming out this year. I don't know. I'm kind of out of good records already. Yeah. It's a pretty good year. Last year was good too, but I feel like I could already make a top 25 and it's like not even April yet. So yeah, it's going to be a good one. All right. So I gave you guys like, you know, five minutes head notice, heads up notice. And now I'm going to put the, 01:16:38.300 --> 01:17:07.780 the irons to you and ask you each what three albums would help people better understand you as a person. I'm going to start with Chris because I'm just going down the row here. So now do you mean musically or like just it can be like you know an album that made you want to play music or an album that made you like heavy metal or something that's just personal to you that you know people would go. 01:17:08.300 --> 01:17:10.020 something important in your life. 01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:11.340 Okay. 01:17:12.660 --> 01:17:13.000 All right. 01:17:14.060 --> 01:17:21.420 I guess I'll make it more like what records were the most influential on me getting into black metal. 01:17:22.200 --> 01:17:31.100 And then sort of like this niche of black metal that I find really special, you know, in terms of not the real super dark stuff, 01:17:31.320 --> 01:18:00.220 But stuff that focuses more on like uplifting vibes and glorious medieval stuff. See, Kalen's already giving the thumbs down. This is why the band broke up, bro. This is it right here. Here comes the striper. So I'd say the first one, Satirica, Satirica on Mrs. Divina is what really blew my mind back in the day. And okay, I need to pay more attention. 01:18:02.120 --> 01:18:30.300 The German Nagelfar, N-E-G-E-L-F-I-R, Hunen-Grab in Herbst. They also have these crazy folky sections and stuff, which back then was completely unheard of. It was folky, but in a different way, in a German way. Yeah, you turned me on to that, Dan. They're so sick. Yeah, it's good stuff. And then, 01:18:31.320 --> 01:18:35.580 I don't know man I have like five other ones here let's go with uh 01:18:37.540 --> 01:19:01.280 let's go with Blue Dauce Nord Memoria of the Two Star uh two Dialogue with the Stars I feel like that uh that record uh just has me entranced you know like from start to finish pretty much every time I listen to it good stuff yeah wow good ones all right Carl thanks bros uh I'll go with uh 01:19:01.300 --> 01:19:30.420 California by Mr. Bungle. Nice. Surprising. Loud Love by Soundgarden. And Anatomy is Destiny by Exhumed. That's me in a nutshell. I can sort of see the progression there. Sort of. There's no progression. That's what I love. 01:19:31.280 --> 01:19:31.760 Fair enough. 01:19:32.320 --> 01:19:33.860 Gotta listen to that old Soundgarden album. 01:19:34.120 --> 01:19:34.440 So good. 01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:38.300 From Chris Cornell to fucking exhumed. 01:19:40.180 --> 01:19:41.020 All right, Galen. 01:19:42.320 --> 01:19:46.300 Yeah, I'm probably gonna regret this later and be like, wait a second. 01:19:46.400 --> 01:19:47.840 How come I didn't remember that one? 01:19:48.080 --> 01:19:50.200 But it's only a couple minutes. 01:19:51.280 --> 01:19:53.640 Probably stay in class by Judas Priest. 01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:55.800 You just made John happy. 01:19:56.260 --> 01:19:56.720 For the win. 01:19:56.980 --> 01:19:57.240 And Jay. 01:19:58.240 --> 01:19:58.620 Jay's not here. 01:20:00.420 --> 01:20:30.160 And maybe right now, maybe Wolf's Lair Abyss by Mayhem. Yes. And the first King Crimson record. There you go. Ooh. John loves you. Yeah, you're making him very happy. Still like Red better, but. Yeah, I think the combination of those records, yeah, kind of makes sense. Awesome. Why were they important to you? Just because you heard them? 01:20:30.420 --> 01:21:00.380 it changed how you thought about music yeah musically for sure it's about how i like write and stuff you know i still pull from when i'm writing music i still pull from those areas you know yeah cool i do find it interesting that so many metal musicians love king crimson there's a lot there's just something about the darkness in that music even though it's like oh it's prog way more than way more than that it's dark it's so 01:21:00.420 --> 01:21:30.360 It's heavy too. Like red is just incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm bow out at this point. Yeah. All right. Let me say bye to you guys. Okay. Sorry. Good to see you, man. Good to talk to you, Chris. Yeah. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. It was awesome. Let's meet up again soon. Yeah, man. Hell yeah, dude. Hell yeah. Take care. Bye, Chris. Bye. So thanks to Chris for coming around for a little while. Carl and Galen are going to hang out with us for a little bit. 01:21:31.260 --> 01:22:00.320 And we're gonna start with t-shirt and beer check. And let's see, Carl, why don't you go first? What are you wearing there? We've already talked about it. Nipples and wake. And wake. Excellent. Are you drinking anything? Right now, I'm drinking starfruit lemonade polar seltzer. Right on. Because I drank way too many beers last night. I went. 01:22:00.400 --> 01:22:29.520 I went hard on the left-hand brewing's nitro milk stout. I only had 12 of them. 12, wow. Today's a rehydration day. Normally I'm in pretty rough shape today, but I kept it pretty calm last night. All right, Galen, what are you wearing? Let's see here. 01:22:29.560 --> 01:22:59.520 I have a Rocky Erickson shirt. Nice. Jay. Yeah. Jay's trying to. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Classic. All right. And I'm. It's my little gray tea. Nice. That'll go well with Jay's coffee. Too early for Jay to drink apparently. Yeah. All right. Then Mark's on. Yeah. I've got a Incantation Favorite Death 01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:29.140 Middleman Incantation. Yes. I have that shirt too. Yeah. It's from the Tricennial of Blasphemy. Compilations like B-Sides and stuff like that. Rarities, which is really cool. They put that out. It was a lot. It's like a ridiculous number of tracks. And then I just drank, I just finished Brimminghorn's Allspice Mead. I did that the other night. It was good. It was good. 01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:59.060 I saw that on untapped and you did a chai hard too. I saw John. Yeah. That was a good one. Right now I'm drinking a big hugs from a faker. That's so good. Imperial coffee stout. The big hugs. Yeah. But can you peel the label on the can too? Like the bottle? You know, you can peel the label back for the monster. I don't know if you can or not. Yeah. On the bottles, you can peel back the label. There's a monster. 01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:28.940 Let's see, John. Let's do this in real time. It can falls apart and beers all over. Monster. Okay. You could do it when they had the large format bottles. Yeah. But you used to be able to peel it back and there'd be something on the inside. Nothing. Yeah. It's not on there. It's the invisible monster. It did come off really easily. Yeah. That's really good. I'm going to put it back on. All right, Matt. All right. 01:24:29.560 --> 01:24:59.380 Wearing a high on fire shirt and much like the carcass shirt last time, this was purchased at Psycho Vegas. And also like the carcass shirt, it is oddly cut and does not fit my body right. But it, you know, I'm just going to make it work because it's high on fire. Just put a hoodie over it. You're good. Exactly. If it's high on fire, you should be going without a shirt. Yeah, no shit. No shit. I started the night with Gravity Drop from Wayfinder Brewing. It is a Baltic style porter, which was awesome. And then now I am working on a We Heavy. 01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:29.480 from Incendiary Brewing, which it's a wee heavy aged in Willow bourbon. So I'm great. Cool. No complaints. Well done. John. All right. So the non-metal shirt, Riverside, in honor of them playing DC tomorrow night. I'm going to go see them. Oh, sweet. Riverside fan. Started out with a beer from TR. I got two beers. Made in Sun and Steel. I've heard that. That's all right. 01:25:29.560 --> 01:25:59.520 Yeah, it's all right. And next beer I'm drinking, Matt, first off, can you please say what I'm thinking right now? How am I holding my beer? Perfectly. All right. He just said, he just quoted this comment on one of my beers recently. It's just Satan. Sorry, I forgot about that. If you've seen Headbangers Journey. Anyway, I'm drinking a beer called Quintin. 01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:29.520 Laundry XO from a brewery called River North. I got it now that I can get to Vore in Virginia. I can get some really overpriced beers that I've never had before. River North is really good. Yes. This is, yes, it's a quad bourbon barrel age and it's fucking outstanding. So, you know, I was in Total Wine the other day in, in Ashburn and I just walked in, I was walking down, down the aisle and somebody 01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:59.520 from the store was helping these two guys and he was like have you ever tried a droid theory and uh and the guys were like oh yeah i know like they like we make way too many beers that are weird and and you know everything's an ipa and i'm just like yeah laughing anyway move on to the big package beers on the next aisle yeah all right jay what are you eating a veggie burger it's like a big long hike today and i was sitting here getting so 01:26:59.940 --> 01:27:27.420 I had to go make a veggie burger. California hiker. What are you wearing? Water in the open days cup. And we are wearing Possessed Revelations of Oblivion. Long sleeve. It was like the special edition thing that came out when the record came out. We try not to wear it too much because I don't want it to wear out because I love Possessed so much. AJ, what hilltop did you hit today? I went to a place called Olan Pali Park. Do you know that? It's lit by Nevada. 01:27:29.200 --> 01:27:59.160 It's like an old mansion there that burned down, blah, blah, blah. But it's this beautiful hike that's like lots of altitude and a few miles. But, you know, it really does the trick. And beautiful views. Everything's green here, John. I know you know it's been raining. Yeah, it's not used to that. So the green, so. My dad's still shoveling snow and bend right now. Oh, is he? Yeah, I bet, dude. Yeah. Hey, just real quick. Did you do Mount Diablo recently? I did. Yeah, about, I think, if it wasn't last weekend, it was the weekend before that. Was it clear or was it cloudy? 01:27:59.900 --> 01:28:29.180 It was clear that day. So you can see pretty far then? Yeah. That's awesome. Lots of fucking snow in the mountains. It was right after one of the atmospheric rivers. Yeah. It's still fucking wet here, dude. It's just, I'm sure you guys know California's in a drought, but we're getting pounced. Better hope you don't lose all that to runoff. Yeah. Yeah. Because that'll suck. That would really suck. Anyway. Yeah. The weather channel's over now, George. All right. Unlike Jay, I'm worried about 01:28:29.220 --> 01:28:59.180 I'm wearing one of my shirts that I wear all the time and I'll probably have holes in it soon and that's one of my pig destroyer shirts I started with a main beer company lunch found a cache of these very good at Trader Joe's the other day so grab some of those that's a really good IPA and to match my shirt and where I'm drinking now three Floyd's permanent funeral Imperial IPA pig destroyer beer so we've all had a few of those yeah it's kind of my go-to now it's like as soon as I if I 01:28:59.220 --> 01:29:29.180 I grab it because not everybody has it but if they do I'm taking it we just got Markisan have you had zombie ice yet from three Floyd's zombie ice yeah it sounds like what makes it ice I have no idea what I call it zombie ice but it's a it's a double IPA from them and it's it's really good I was like oh no is this some weird concoction they came up with and from the 90s I haven't heard of it I'm surprised I haven't yeah 01:29:29.200 --> 01:29:59.000 Yeah, I had it on tap here and got it in cans. Nice. Wow. And the distribution is really upped in the recent years here. You guys get a lot of the beers. We finally got Arctic Panzerwolf. Yeah, it's a good one. It's fucking so good. I actually cleared out the Total Wine by my house. How many did you buy, John? There was only, I think, two or three, four packs. I was like, oh, they all just ended up in my cart. I took them all. 01:29:59.220 --> 01:30:29.080 I'm sorry. I was a dick. Took them all. They're really good. They got more because I bought more later. I was just drinking Moloko Milk Stout, which I like a lot. Yeah, it's a good one. All right. All right, let's move on to the news. First up, we have a few recent passings. 01:30:29.220 --> 01:30:59.140 Gary Rossington from Lynyrd Skynyrd, Jim Durkin from Dark Angel, and Joshua Madsen from Artillery. All within the last... Doesn't Gary Rossington die like every year? No, no. I'm joking. He had a bad heart thing a few years ago. He cheated death a few times, actually. He was in the plane when it went down. He was in a car accident in the 70s, too. And he drove into a tree, I think. So there was that, and then there was the plane. 01:31:00.080 --> 01:31:29.140 with, uh, who was in there? Ronnie Van Sant, maybe? Uh, basically, I think the whole band wasn't, or most of them. Yeah. Steve Gaines. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, uh, what happened to Gary. I don't know what happened to Jim either, but, uh, Joshua was, uh, hit by a bus. He's crossing the street and she creamed him. So that sucks. Um, you know, but, uh, all the best to their friends. 01:31:29.260 --> 01:31:59.060 Family and Friends. Next up, Marty Friedman played with Megadeth in Japan. This is the first time in 23 years. And he says the door is open for playing with them again. I don't know. What do you think? Eh. He's open to playing like that again. Right. Like not coming back to the band. Yeah. Although I wish I could have been there to see that because him and that guy Kiko, who's the guitarist now, 01:31:59.220 --> 01:32:29.020 The Guy from Angra, that would have been kind of cool because he's a really good guitarist also. You can watch it, Jeff. I mean, it is. No, I'm saying I wish I could have been there actually to see them on stage together. Yeah. I don't know why, but for no reason whatsoever, I watched. It showed up in my Facebook feed and it was like behind the scenes when they first saw each other. They filmed everything to this. And Marty seemed like a really nice guy and Dave seemed like he always seems to me. It was just kind of an ego and shit. I mean, he was nice enough, but the interviews were all weird and stuff. But Marty Friedman, 01:32:29.220 --> 01:32:58.360 He seems like a nice dude. Yeah, I've always been a Marty Friedman fan. I liked his some of his like solo instrumental stuff back in the early days. So I've always kind of liked him and you know, his period in Megadeth would definitely I mean aside from the first couple albums would be my favorite. I'm just curious because you know Megadeth's been pretty shite for a while now and like if he did come back would that make a difference? No. No. 01:32:59.200 --> 01:33:28.820 I got it. There's been some... Go ahead, Gail. Go ahead. That footage I watched, I mean, they're ripping live for sure. Like, you watch that and then you watch some footage of Metallica. It's pretty easy. Yeah. I agree. But I think the way the songwriting and stuff, like, yeah, if he came back, I don't think it would make a difference at this point. No, because Dave's always going to be the writer. Right. Exactly. He's had so many good guitarists since Marty Freeman. He really has. 01:33:29.200 --> 01:33:57.940 You know, and he wasted, was it Chris Broderick when he was in the band? He completely wasted him. Didn't even let him do anything, so it wouldn't make a difference. Yeah. All right, so next up, Barney Greenway broke his ankle on stage with Napalm Death and refused to cancel the tour. I saw a picture of him sitting on a chair with his leg up. I think Dave Grohl needs to get a hold of Barney and give him his super special tour throne. 01:33:59.220 --> 01:34:28.120 That leg up. So can I just tell my story real quick, George? Sure. Because I'm still laughing. I thought George had originally wrote, party Greenway breaks angel on stage with napalm death and refuses to cancel tour. When he said the script, I was like, what the fuck? Why is he breaking an angel on stage? And I was like, oh, it's actually angle. Oh, wait a minute. I think something else. I think he broke his ankle. I had to look it up. 01:34:28.740 --> 01:34:58.160 Actually, they were on tour with Goat Horror, and they brought some angels on stage. I mean, angels sounds better, because that's very metal. Breaking Angel? Sure. Yeah, but the best part is like, after he broke, he's like, well, I'm not canceling the tour. And I was like, that doesn't make any sense. But anyway, sorry. Yeah. I said a good laugh about that. And then we've got Brian Slagle releasing a new book on May 9th called Swing of the Blade, More Stories from Metal Blade Records. I think I'll probably pick 01:34:58.180 --> 01:35:28.040 that up. I liked his first book. Yeah, I liked it too. It was full of some stories I'd never heard and seems like a pretty humble dude. Yeah, he's nice. He was on one of our early, early episodes. Good dude. So then Wilderun was featured in a Grammy winning score for a video game soundtrack. John, was that you that told me about that? No, it was Mark. I didn't even know that, to be honest with you. Mark. That's right. 01:35:28.180 --> 01:35:28.740 So yeah, 01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:34.820 they created a new category for the Grammys called best score soundtrack for video games and other interactive media. 01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:36.780 And it debuted in 2023. 01:35:37.720 --> 01:35:38.480 And this composer, 01:35:39.140 --> 01:35:44.400 Stephanie Economo took home the award for her work on Assassin's Creed Valhalla, 01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:45.880 Dawn of Ragnarok, 01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:47.920 which is fine. 01:35:47.920 --> 01:35:48.180 I mean, 01:35:48.180 --> 01:35:48.760 it's cool game, 01:35:49.280 --> 01:35:50.180 but I didn't know this. 01:35:50.440 --> 01:35:53.840 Wilderun was the primary band who worked on the score with her. 01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:56.760 So they actually wrote a bunch of music. 01:35:57.540 --> 01:36:25.980 They basically educated her about black metal and other forms of music. In fact, Wolves in the Throne Room was one of the bands, the music that they gave to her that helped inspire it. And then they wrote riffs. They did growls. They did all kinds of various sounds that she could incorporate into the soundtrack. So I thought that was really neat. I don't think Wilderun gets a Grammy. 01:36:27.540 --> 01:36:32.460 it sounds like they were very instrumental in creating the soundtrack. 01:36:33.020 --> 01:36:33.980 That's very cool, dude. 01:36:34.140 --> 01:36:34.480 That's cool. 01:36:35.080 --> 01:36:38.760 We had, when we had, I don't know if you guys remember this, but when we had... 01:36:38.980 --> 01:36:39.660 We had Avidon. 01:36:40.480 --> 01:36:44.200 No, I was thinking of the girl from Immortal Bird, I forget her name, right? 01:36:45.300 --> 01:36:49.240 Remember she had worked on the new Doom soundtrack? 01:36:49.580 --> 01:36:49.800 Yes. 01:36:50.580 --> 01:36:53.940 And they brought a bunch of metal musicians down to some place and put them all in a room 01:36:54.050 --> 01:36:54.920 together and blah, blah, blah. 01:36:55.040 --> 01:37:24.980 I don't remember how instrumental she was in that, but interesting. That's interesting that people might be making a little side check there. Stuff like that. Well, it's cool, too, that they're thinking, you know, metal is like a valuable resource for games because, you know, the musicians are just experts at creating these sounds and there are certain things that they want to capture in a video game. So I like that they're actually thinking about that a little bit more. John, when Evan was on, didn't he talk about that? 01:37:25.020 --> 01:37:54.320 that he was making money on the side writing video game music? He was, yeah. And I can't remember the other guy's name in the band that does all the scoring for them. So all the symphonic stuff that they've done. But yeah, he mentioned on the side he writes video game music, if I remember correctly. Yeah, sounds right. This is a new category, you said? Yeah, it just debuted this year. I think there were people that were lobbying for it because, you know, music and video games has become super popular. 01:37:55.020 --> 01:37:58.760 soundtracks. They do concerts for Final Fantasy. I've gone to one of those 01:37:59.250 --> 01:38:01.420 where they play the music from Final Fantasy. 01:38:01.480 --> 01:38:04.000 It's weird that Jethro Tull didn't win the first one. 01:38:06.580 --> 01:38:07.780 It's funny you mentioned that. 01:38:07.880 --> 01:38:08.500 That's for you, Jay. 01:38:10.160 --> 01:38:12.920 It's funny you mentioned that because I was just going to insert a new item 01:38:13.240 --> 01:38:16.780 because I just heard today that there's a new Jethro Tull album coming out 01:38:17.230 --> 01:38:18.320 and it's Viking themed. 01:38:19.380 --> 01:38:24.920 I think it's called Flute Rock or some variation on that with umlauts. 01:38:25.120 --> 01:38:54.880 and stuff. Yeah. I was supposed to be an instrumental flute album and then Ian expanded upon that idea. And I'm looking forward to hearing some of that. There's already some of it out. It's actually pretty good, dude. Yeah. I liked the last one. I just didn't have it. I found out about it today. I didn't have a chance to listen to it yet because I was listening to all the other things we needed to listen to for today. Yeah. And maybe the whole thing is up there. I wonder. No, I think it's next month. Okay. I think. 01:38:56.720 --> 01:39:24.420 Thanks for sending X. I didn't know that they were part of that. Yeah, I thought you'd appreciate that. I know how much you like that band. Maybe I'll like them, but that's cool, though. Yeah. So maybe they'll get to do another. Maybe they'll invite them back for the next Assassin's Creed. 35. Yeah. That's cool. All right. Last news item. This one's for you, Jay Paul Quinn of Saxon steps back from touring. Go. Yeah. 01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:54.940 to put this on here because for a couple of reasons one is whenever you inevitably have those sort of like who are your favorite guitar players you know conversations there's a lot of guys i mentioned and i'm always like i totally should have fucking said paul quinn because paul quinn is like he's i mean how many records do you think saxon has now john baby i think they're at least 20 isn't it studio it's got to be 20 and maybe more um and he has to be always does something interesting and tasteful and weird and he's kind of like glenn tipton and 01:39:54.980 --> 01:40:24.940 that he kind of he wasn't always just rooted in the past you know how glenn kind of like embrace some of the new shreddy styles and stuff as pre-spall and paul quinn's like that he gets it and anyway and it's just kind of sad thing because i think saxon has been plotting along you know while maiden and priest do all kinds of whatever they do ups and downs and ins and outs and stuff and saxon has always just been quietly out there putting out kick-ass metal records so so i don't know i just wanted to kind of honor the dude and say like he's still gonna end the records which is good 01:40:24.960 --> 01:40:26.760 But he's stepping back from touring 01:40:26.920 --> 01:40:28.840 But wow, he toured from the time he was like 20 01:40:29.040 --> 01:40:29.700 until he was 71 01:40:30.500 --> 01:40:31.540 That's insane, wow 01:40:31.710 --> 01:40:32.160 Can you imagine? 01:40:32.380 --> 01:40:34.060 He probably doesn't even know what his house looks like 01:40:34.170 --> 01:40:34.740 I mean, so 01:40:35.660 --> 01:40:36.220 So anyway, yeah 01:40:36.780 --> 01:40:38.160 He's one of my favorite guitar players 01:40:38.260 --> 01:40:39.040 Easy top 10 01:40:39.240 --> 01:40:40.000 Could be top 5 01:40:40.100 --> 01:40:41.420 And it's just 01:40:42.160 --> 01:40:44.220 Not a sad announcement, I think 01:40:44.340 --> 01:40:46.240 But a milestone in any case 01:40:46.520 --> 01:40:47.460 I mean, good for him 01:40:47.510 --> 01:40:48.440 If he wants to 01:40:48.980 --> 01:40:50.500 Kind of graciously bow out at this point 01:40:50.560 --> 01:40:51.340 He's put his time in 01:40:51.360 --> 01:40:52.440 There's no doubt about that 01:40:53.160 --> 01:41:21.360 They said he'd still work on the albums. Yeah. I mean, he's old. Come on. You got me on stage forever. Apparently Biff is never going to stop touring ever. He stopped touring recently. Ever. He just got COVID, by the way. They canceled the last three days of their tour. He says he's never going to stop. And that's cool. Yeah. Somebody from Maiden said that they're coming towards the end of when they would be able to tour. And that makes sense. 01:41:22.460 --> 01:41:52.420 I think yeah I've always thought of Saxon being the unfortunate unheard of unsounded they're the part of me with it was the big three was made in priests and Saxon and Saxon just didn't catch on in America it's too bad but anyway so just real quick Jay it's crazy because uh early on for those of us who are really old I remember all those videos from 80 when did they start MTV 81 was it roughly yeah I mean all their stuff was 01:41:53.100 --> 01:41:53.420 constantly. 01:41:54.460 --> 01:41:58.880 You know, and it just, it never stuck. Like you said, like Maiden and Priest. 01:41:59.680 --> 01:42:11.800 I've always thought it was probably his voice. I just think his voice is a, I like it personally, but I mean, I think it's a, you have to develop the taste for it. Anyway, it is what it is. But so, yeah, very well to Paul Quinn as far as touring goes. 01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:12.220 Good for Paul. 01:42:12.700 --> 01:42:16.080 And I did have the good fortune to see them with him, so that was cool. 01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:17.940 Enjoy your retirement, pal. 01:42:18.400 --> 01:42:19.100 George and I did too. 01:42:19.100 --> 01:42:19.540 Yeah, enjoy your retirement. 01:42:19.860 --> 01:42:19.920 Yeah. 01:42:20.220 --> 01:42:21.040 They were good when we saw them. 01:42:21.280 --> 01:42:21.560 Yeah, they were. 01:42:23.960 --> 01:42:51.580 I saw them with Priest. Yeah. And then I saw them, they actually, one of the dates kind of, I don't know what happened at Prog Power, but they and Armored Saint played one of the days of Prog Power. It was just those two bands. Fucking killed. It was such a great, just fun to listen to that stuff from the 80s. And they played in front of the whole fest and it was awesome. Totally don't fit the fest, but 01:42:51.620 --> 01:42:52.580 It didn't matter because they were still. 01:42:52.780 --> 01:42:54.400 Yeah, they are not progressive, that's for sure. 01:42:54.680 --> 01:42:57.060 But everyone loved them, and it was great. 01:42:57.680 --> 01:42:59.860 I finally just saw Hombreed Saint for the first time in November. 01:43:01.320 --> 01:43:02.040 That was pretty cool. 01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:02.840 Yeah. 01:43:03.940 --> 01:43:05.400 They put it out on stage, no doubt. 01:43:06.660 --> 01:43:07.020 All right. 01:43:07.660 --> 01:43:08.220 New releases. 01:43:18.140 --> 01:43:46.600 First up, we have Go Rod and their seventh album, The Orb, their French progressive tech death band. And I know a couple of people last night. Say that again? Who played Atlas last night? Who played Atlas last night, yes. And before Will crushes us for not going, I already had plans well in advance, unfortunately. It's called St. Patrick's Day, Will. Can't compete with a leprechaun. 01:43:46.740 --> 01:43:47.300 I wish. 01:43:48.980 --> 01:43:49.440 And I am not, 01:43:49.800 --> 01:43:50.840 I am not hitting the, 01:43:50.880 --> 01:43:53.380 the Jameson and the Guinness and driving. 01:43:53.600 --> 01:43:54.740 So sorry. 01:43:55.060 --> 01:43:55.200 No, 01:43:55.480 --> 01:43:57.200 I'm actually glad they got to play Alice. 01:43:57.440 --> 01:43:57.680 That's a, 01:43:57.800 --> 01:43:59.180 that's a big band for them to go. 01:43:59.400 --> 01:43:59.500 Yeah, 01:43:59.740 --> 01:43:59.860 definitely. 01:44:00.680 --> 01:44:01.500 And Warren was there. 01:44:01.780 --> 01:44:02.980 So at least he had somebody. 01:44:05.140 --> 01:44:05.400 Warren, 01:44:05.420 --> 01:44:09.940 I hope your ass does not hurt today because it got slapped a lot. 01:44:09.940 --> 01:44:10.660 I bet last night. 01:44:10.680 --> 01:44:10.960 Oh yeah. 01:44:12.040 --> 01:44:12.820 But yeah, 01:44:13.100 --> 01:44:13.980 it's a pretty cool album. 01:44:14.360 --> 01:44:16.300 And I know a few people that are really into this. 01:44:16.440 --> 01:44:45.620 I love it. Absolutely. I think it's the best thing they've done. So I mean, I'm not really a technical death metal guy, but this is ultra engaging, progressive technical death metal. I think the guitars are phenomenal on it. And just it delivers a feeling of urgency to me, like immediacy, just really great songwriting. It's like one of my favorite albums this year, I think. So and I like their old albums, but not as much as this one. I really took to this one. Sweet. 01:44:46.560 --> 01:44:50.360 Yeah, I liked it too. They're one of the few tech death bands I don't get 01:44:51.540 --> 01:44:52.440 fatigue with right away. 01:44:52.740 --> 01:44:53.360 Yeah, right. 01:44:53.480 --> 01:45:00.000 Because sometimes some bands, I know they're all great musicians, but sometimes I get fatigued from blast beats and constant 01:45:01.200 --> 01:45:07.060 just twists and turns. And they do that. I mean, they're not, they're not a shying away from it, but they also 01:45:07.920 --> 01:45:16.040 kind of slow things down a little bit just to kind of reel you back in. And then I crush you again a few minutes later. And I kind of like that about them. So yeah, I like the new album a lot too. 01:45:18.280 --> 01:45:46.080 All right, next up we have Ice Age and Waves of Loss and Powers. It's their third album, New York Prog Metal Band, and their first album in 22 years. John's been waiting a long time for that one. Yeah, I figured I didn't know about this. What's that, Galen? I didn't know about this album. Do you know the band? I've heard of the band, yeah. So yeah, when George put this on, I was like, you know, you don't know about this album. 01:45:46.100 --> 01:46:16.020 I don't have to put this on. Hey, I like it. Oh, that's awesome. I'm glad to hear that. I'm a huge fan of these guys, just in a nutshell. So if it's going to dissuade anyone, they're not there from the late, late nineties, prog metal band influences are obviously going to be dream theater because they influenced so many bands back then. But the big difference with this band is they don't do a lot of unnecessary noodling, even though they do noodle show off their chops, but their singer, it's, 01:46:16.100 --> 01:46:45.460 Dennis D-Young with a metal voice. And if you like sticks, great if you don't, whatever. But Dennis D-Young could sing at his peak time. This dude is outstanding. And it sounds like he never stopped singing. He's got to be in his 50s now. And it's like listening to John Arch when you first heard it and come back from Fate's Warning. He still maintains the power, the timber, and he's not a screecher, but he can get pretty damn high. 01:46:46.120 --> 01:47:15.820 But it's not screeching at all. I mean, he's just an amazing singer. He's their keeper player at the same time, too. So I'm glad George put it on there because I'd never heard of this band, to be honest, John. But when I saw that you you put it on Instagram, I think with the album and I was like, oh, I got to listen to this if John's really into it. So I love the record. It definitely feels like a prog throwback, but it's just beautifully crafted. It's super catchy. It's got it has great. 01:47:17.700 --> 01:47:46.020 It has those sweeping synth passages to it. And the whole band is like crazy talented. I love that you can hear all the instruments really clearly on it. And like you said, that singer, he has fucking pipes, man. And then those choruses are gorgeous. And it reminds me of Dream Theater, but better, to be honest. I like it better. I feel like if these guys had been putting out albums as consistently back in the old days, 01:47:46.120 --> 01:48:15.500 when that style of music was a little bit bigger, they would be more on a level with Dream Theater. They would be more of like a stadium, not a band. I'm all warm and fuzzy. I really liked it. Yeah. And I had no idea about this band. Hit me up later, Marcus. I'll throw the other two up there in the box for you. Excellent. Yeah. And if anyone else wants them, I don't know if you want them, but if you do, they're there. I'm in. Next up, I don't know if I'm going to pronounce either of these right. Is Soul? Is Soul? 01:48:16.120 --> 01:48:46.060 I don't know I.S.O.L.E. is the band and their eighth album and Nessa Dora. Reminds me of a joke. Oh no. Oh boy here we go. Yeah. Got it. Got it. Got it. They're a Swedish epic doom band. I didn'T really get too far into this one. I've always kind of liked them a little though so I put it up here just in case somebody was a fan. The whole early Candlemas vibe to them. Yeah. 01:48:46.120 --> 01:49:16.080 Yeah, definitely. Modern sounding. The last one was good. This one's good. I don't know how much I'll go back to it, but I enjoyed it when I listened to it. Yeah. Because I like that type of doom. So. Yeah, I feel like they're always pretty consistent. I feel the same. It's nothing that puts it over the top. It was good. It's fine. You know, it's not something that I'll probably spin a ton. Maybe it's isole. Isole. I don't know. It doesn't sound Swedish, but okay. No. George, just get to the 01:49:16.120 --> 01:49:45.160 That's a boner alert album coming up next for Markisan it, Matt. All right. That would be Majesty's Vast Reaches Unclaimed, the first album of Melo Death from Minneapolis, featuring musical badass Tanner Anderson of Obsequia and also plays live with Panopticon and a really nice dude. Yep. Yep. Yep. As well as Carl from Crap. I'm going to forget the name of his band. I'll think of it. Alcyone? Antiverse. 01:49:47.060 --> 01:49:48.200 But Carl plays 01:49:48.200 --> 01:49:48.860 He's right here 01:49:49.370 --> 01:49:49.740 Carl plays 01:49:51.180 --> 01:49:53.400 No, I love all Carl's 01:49:53.600 --> 01:49:54.080 We have a second 01:49:54.180 --> 01:49:54.900 But you're with a K 01:49:54.980 --> 01:49:55.640 This is with a C 01:49:55.640 --> 01:49:55.940 I believe 01:49:56.880 --> 01:49:58.260 That's an inferior Carl 01:49:58.900 --> 01:49:59.800 I prefer the K 01:49:59.820 --> 01:50:00.700 I prefer the K 01:50:00.700 --> 01:50:01.380 K is stronger 01:50:01.780 --> 01:50:02.280 It is 01:50:02.500 --> 01:50:03.160 With a hard K 01:50:03.500 --> 01:50:04.140 And special 01:50:04.420 --> 01:50:05.220 Special K 01:50:07.440 --> 01:50:07.820 I don't know 01:50:07.960 --> 01:50:09.280 I mean, I like Tanner 01:50:09.420 --> 01:50:10.400 I like Obsequia 01:50:10.540 --> 01:50:11.760 And obviously I like Panopticon 01:50:12.280 --> 01:50:13.720 Not a big Melo Death fan 01:50:13.980 --> 01:50:15.440 So while I get this 01:50:15.440 --> 01:50:18.440 is a cool album. It just didn't do much for me. 01:50:19.640 --> 01:50:44.440 The thing that like, I feel like John, you and I talked about it and I said, I feel like you can hear obsequia in this. And so I don't, you know, I don't know what part that plays in, you know, the whole scope of Melodeth, but I feel like you can hear that coming through as they play this. I'm not as familiar with other Carl's stuff to say like, oh, you can hear Antiverse coming into this, but I feel like you can definitely hear Tanner's, you know, his personal touch to this. 01:50:45.360 --> 01:51:14.500 Yeah, I mean, it was on my top five most anticipated albums. And we did that a couple casts ago. And I mean, it absolutely delivered what I wanted. It's that old school 90s melody that I loved when I was a teen, you know, when In Flames was really good for like two albums. And they pioneered that and they just I kind of forgotten that, you know, and it brings back those glory days for me because you just don't hear that sound where it has the vicious vocals, but it also has just those awesome melodic 01:51:14.520 --> 01:51:20.760 and they just nail it on every single song. I really, really enjoy it. And it's even better on vinyl. 01:51:22.280 --> 01:51:33.600 For me, it was a moment where I had no idea this was coming out. I had no idea this group existed. And like, oh, here's this song. And then I kind of read the little synopsis they wrote about, you know, kind of embracing that. 01:51:35.360 --> 01:51:42.200 I think they were more, you know, hearkening to, like you say, Marcasson, with In Flames and The Jester Race. 01:51:43.740 --> 01:52:12.020 Yeah, I think that was the one. Literally. Horacles, really. I like Horacle. And what was the other one before that? I forget. I'm trying to complete blank because I was just listening to it. But regardless. Does it have the word clay in it? No, not clay, man. I don't think it was. That was after. Was it, what did I say? Just Erase? Yeah, I thought it was Just Erase and then. But it was kind of that moment between Stockholm and Gothenburg. 01:52:12.700 --> 01:52:42.000 Either way, I just completely caught me off guard, punched me in the face. Colony was the other one. That's what I was going to say, but I thought that was after. Thank you. But I've been a believer ever since. Not to be confused as a believer. It goes Chester Reese, 96, Horacle, 97, Colony, 99, Clayman. That's like the best period. But to me, Horacle and Colony are by far the best records. So that's what it kind of reaches back to. 01:52:42.720 --> 01:53:12.540 Yeah, I love it. And it was one of those when I heard the song, I just kept playing the song over and over, which is, I don't usually do that with a band. But you're really influential back in that time period. It's like when I was getting into metal. So yeah, it's just nice. It's nice to have that. It's a warm, comforting blanket for me. Nice. Well, we'll see. It's a metal of a Snuggie. The year is young, maybe. 01:53:12.720 --> 01:53:42.640 I'll come around to it. So next up, we have the band Necropanther, a band I never would have guessed by the name that I would have liked. But their fourth album, Betrayal, they're a Denver Thrash band. And I really, I got into these guys with their last album. And despite their questionable name choice, they're a pretty cool band. I think, Marcus, you like these guys too, yeah? I do, it's great. It's like, it's fun. It rips, like, from start to finish. 01:53:44.500 --> 01:54:12.500 Yeah, it's really good. Necropanther does sound like a weird 80s rock man or something, but no, their music is... Like Steel Panther's more badass brother. God damn it. Sorry, John. I've spoken a couple times and it's just fun. Sometimes you want that kind of bouncy, energetic metal. I listen to a lot of Doom is what I like the most, so it's kind of like a palette gunter almost for me. 01:54:13.340 --> 01:54:41.680 So I like throwing that on. Yeah, it's really good. Cool. Then we have Ocean of Grief. Pale Existence. It's their second album of death, doom from where exactly, John? Well, they were from Spain via Greece, but they're actually from Greece. But I, for some reason, always think they're from Spain. So. Gotcha. But they're Greek. Yep. And I remember talking about their first album when that came out. 01:54:41.720 --> 01:54:43.420 there was some love for that. 01:54:44.070 --> 01:54:45.500 Yeah, I know Will likes them a lot. 01:54:47.160 --> 01:54:47.580 It's good. 01:54:47.720 --> 01:54:48.740 I mean, it's... 01:54:49.370 --> 01:54:51.440 I have to listen to it again to see what I think. 01:54:51.580 --> 01:54:54.820 I think Will likes this one, too, from what I remember him saying. 01:54:55.100 --> 01:54:55.760 It's Death Doom. 01:54:56.500 --> 01:54:58.220 It's a little polished on their sound. 01:54:59.040 --> 01:55:00.940 I don't know if people like that with their Death Doom. 01:55:03.140 --> 01:55:05.000 So it sort of reminds me a little bit... 01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:07.660 I don't know what you think, George, if it reminds a little bit of Swallow the Sun. 01:55:08.220 --> 01:55:10.740 Maybe not as good as Swallow the Sun, but a little bit like that. 01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:40.020 Because Smaller Sun stuff is somewhat polished to sound. Yeah, definitely. I kind of feel the same way I do with this band that I did with Isol. And that, you know, it's good. I can listen to it, but I'm not kind of blown away about it. It's probably something I'm not going to return to as much as some of the other albums that are coming out. That's how I feel about it. I'll probably give it a few more spins just to give it some due time because I only gave it one good spin and not enough. 01:55:40.820 --> 01:55:45.640 You always gotta do that right john gotta spend a few times to know for sure sometimes 01:55:45.840 --> 01:55:50.000 Yeah exactly just because i'm not in that i'm not listening to a lot of death doom right now 01:55:50.860 --> 01:55:53.620 Even though james thinks that's all we listen to on this podcast 01:55:55.720 --> 01:55:57.820 I hate death doom.com. Yeah, exactly 01:55:58.820 --> 01:56:01.600 But I do feel I need to give a little more more time so 01:56:01.960 --> 01:56:06.080 James got educated on the last cast he was on because we had quite a 01:56:06.590 --> 01:56:09.239 Lot of selections from different genres a plethora 01:56:10.300 --> 01:56:24.720 We were 25% death doom when you were. I love James. James is awesome. Likewise. All righty. Let's move on to what we are listening to. 01:56:48.760 --> 01:57:09.080 Carl and Galen, you've already given your pitch, but if you have anything you want to chime in with, now's the time. I don't think so. Crickets. Okay. Well, then we're going to go to... Carl's got something. Yeah, my buddies in Fires in the Distance. Oh, yeah. They've got a record. 01:57:09.260 --> 01:57:11.200 coming out and I've been listening to it for the last 01:57:11.900 --> 01:57:13.360 year or so and it's really 01:57:13.480 --> 01:57:15.320 good. Oh wow. I heard the first two songs 01:57:15.560 --> 01:57:17.000 out and they're really good. Yeah. 01:57:17.420 --> 01:57:19.220 We played with them 01:57:19.760 --> 01:57:21.340 four times over the summer 01:57:21.620 --> 01:57:23.440 so I've been 01:57:23.460 --> 01:57:25.220 friends with those guys since we were like 18. 01:57:26.280 --> 01:57:26.880 It's just one of those 01:57:27.480 --> 01:57:29.520 nice to see friends 01:57:29.820 --> 01:57:30.880 doing good stuff and 01:57:31.740 --> 01:57:33.140 coming up and they're sick 01:57:33.680 --> 01:57:35.580 and my bass player Ian Alcion 01:57:35.940 --> 01:57:37.460 and my other tech 01:57:39.180 --> 01:57:41.520 He's got a record coming out 01:57:42.820 --> 01:57:44.800 in April. I think it's an EP 01:57:45.580 --> 01:57:47.080 with his band Lunar Chamber. 01:57:48.220 --> 01:57:51.360 Oh, yeah. I just saw that first song just dropped, didn't it? 01:57:51.560 --> 01:57:53.560 Yeah, yeah. Just dropped yesterday, I believe. 01:57:54.260 --> 01:57:55.260 Is that 20 bucks? 01:57:55.580 --> 01:57:56.500 Yeah, 20 bucks a band. 01:57:57.420 --> 01:57:58.820 Absolutely gnarly stuff. 01:57:59.120 --> 01:57:59.200 Cool. 01:57:59.280 --> 01:58:00.180 Absolutely gnarly stuff. 01:58:01.240 --> 01:58:01.480 Awesome. 01:58:02.340 --> 01:58:04.460 I really like that Last Fires in the Distance record. 01:58:05.460 --> 01:58:06.580 So I'm looking forward to the new one. 01:58:07.120 --> 01:58:35.960 The new one's sick. We should get the promo for that and find out. Who's big on that is Breminghorn. Breminghorn, I think. Yeah, they know them pretty well. TR's a big fan of theirs. He saw them play at Breminghorn for what their, I don't know, was for $7.93 for the fest they do every year. But he saw them there. He said they were awesome. Yeah, JR's a fan, I know. Yeah. We'll see them in Breminghorn pretty soon. That's right. 01:58:36.640 --> 01:59:06.540 And goat's blood. Incantation. I've never had the meat. I'm so excited. It's so good. It was their first collaboration, right? Mm-hmm. And I've never had it, so I'm finally going to get it. And it was so good. Yeah. I can't wait for you guys to try it, honestly. And I know Will feels the same way. Yep. All right. Well, then, Markison, what are you listening to? Right. So, well, first, I kind of wanted to mention something we don't, 01:59:06.620 --> 01:59:36.500 really point out much. And that's for anyone that's listening and doesn't know every Friday, we post albums that we're listening to on our Facebook page. And we always have a ton of recommendations with links to the band camp pages and listeners also weigh in on what they're spinning. Just go to at Metal Heads podcast and like our page and you'll find just all the fucking new metal you can handle. So we do that every Friday. So that's the promo done. 01:59:36.620 --> 02:00:04.180 So then on to my recent highlights from the endless metal listening hole that I'm in. First one is Super Terrestrial, The Fathomless Decay. It's on Green Flaw Productions. And I interviewed this band. They're pretty underground, but I interviewed them for my column 10 horns that I've done for the Metalheads podcast website. I haven't done it in a couple of years, actually. 02:00:05.240 --> 02:00:33.580 I've liked their style of cosmic black metal for a few years, but they just, I feel like they leveled up on this record. I really love the shrieking vocals on it. Just a swirling devastation of guitar riffs. But it's the way they use synth and these thick, big, groovy riffs that accent the songs kind of gives it this stark, otherworldly feel. And that makes it stand out for me. So I'm really liking that record. 02:00:34.440 --> 02:01:04.400 Penny Coffin Conscripted Morality EP. This is not out yet. It comes out on April 7th on Bandcamp Friday. We didn't do our Metalheads Top 5 EPs last year. We usually do. We didn't last year. But I posted mine on social media and Penny Coffin made the cut with their fantastic Death Metal EP. And last year, I can't pronounce it because it was in Greek, but its translation is Skelepid. 02:01:05.180 --> 02:01:34.100 So after hearing that, I was looking forward to the new one. So I just sent a message to the band and we got the promo for it. And I think the EP is just as good, if not better than the last one. So if you like your death metal grimy, blackened with a gurgling saw blade of guitar doom, then you'll dig this band. Saw blades gurgle? Yes. Especially when you're cutting through blood and bone, George. Fair enough. 02:01:37.960 --> 02:02:04.400 I want them to do a full length because they've been doing EP so it'd be nice for them to do a full length. Downfall of Gaia, Silhouettes of Disgust. This just came out actually on Metal Blade Records. Atmospheric, Black and Postmetal. I like the band's previous efforts including the last one but I really like this album. There's something about the way they use space and atmosphere throughout the record that really spits. 02:02:04.460 --> 02:02:34.420 speaks to me more than the the stuff before it so i'm enjoying that one uh cephalophore the light and the eye of heaven an independent release this is another under the radar band from baltimore um they released a double album this year and the first half is called the light and it's an immersive ambient record and then the eye of heaven is part two and it's this stunning epic atmospheric 02:02:34.460 --> 02:03:03.920 black metal layered with synth and just eerie soundscapes. And when I say epic, I mean it because the Eye of Heaven is an hour and a half long. Wow. With the shortest song clocking in at 16 minutes and 42 seconds. So it's an esoteric album, basically. And that's just the one half. The other half is 45 more minutes. Somebody needs an editor. So it's an endurance test and an experience. But I think it's a rich, 02:03:03.960 --> 02:03:32.920 It's a rich one. It's a rewarding one. Yeah, I feel like I kind of get lost in that one. I really like that. Enslaved, because I didn't get to talk about it last time. I'm not going to talk about it as long as you guys did, but on Nuclear Blast. I love that you guys gushed about it, and I wish I was part of that orgy. So the only thing I'm going to say is that it's one of my favorite Enslaved records now. Every song on it, I think, is a stunner. 02:03:33.960 --> 02:04:02.100 I'm just really impressed. I listen to it a lot. I've listened to it almost every single day since it came out. And I like all the enslaved albums pretty much. I've had my favorites, but there's something about this one. I don't know. It has a really eclectic mix to it that I like. I like the cosmic feel to it too. I don't know. Just really like everything about it. Ardent Nova, self-titled on Wise Blood Records. 02:04:03.980 --> 02:04:33.920 Chompin' Melodic Deathrash with big, violent Viking riffs, I would say. If you dig Majesties, actually, I think you probably like this one. It kind of gives me those 90s mellow death chills again. It's really good. I've been listening to that one a lot. Verminous Serpent, The Malign Covenant on Amor Fati Productions. This is a slithering black doom album featuring a darker side of primordial singers. 02:04:33.960 --> 02:05:03.540 Alan Alverill, who has these vicious snarling vocals on this record that sound nothing like what he does in Primordial. And it's really, really good. And then the last one on my list is Funerals, Let the Earth Be Silent on Prophecy Productions. This is my album of the month for February. And I play it almost every night. It's just nothing like this band in metal. The atmosphere they create in it is just absolutely, 02:05:03.960 --> 02:05:10.220 spine chilling to me and hypnotic it's the most haunting ritualistic doom i think i've heard 02:05:11.040 --> 02:05:15.360 and uh i love it especially at night when i'm all alone and there's no sounds 02:05:16.660 --> 02:05:27.520 except metal all right that's the best time to do it yep matt righty uh okay where will i start so don't fly gaia 02:05:27.580 --> 02:05:57.180 Their last album was my number one album at mid-year. I have been tracking this one as the tracks have come out. Sadly, I've only spun it. The new album came out yesterday. I've only spun it once, like what I heard, but definitely need to kind of dig in more. Majesties, Vast Reaches, Unclaimed, Gush, Gush, Gush, Gush. Band called Witch Ripper, their album, The Flight of the Fall. They remind me of a lot of a band whose name starts with an M. I can't think of it. 02:05:57.580 --> 02:06:02.580 I also can't think of it. 02:06:02.700 --> 02:06:03.840 Pass it on. 02:06:05.940 --> 02:06:06.900 Think so. 02:06:07.180 --> 02:06:09.540 Think latter era that band, 02:06:10.800 --> 02:06:12.300 the band Omega infinity. 02:06:12.580 --> 02:06:13.960 I it's been out for a while. 02:06:14.180 --> 02:06:15.340 The album's called the anti current. 02:06:15.480 --> 02:06:16.420 It's been out for a few weeks, 02:06:16.620 --> 02:06:17.180 maybe months. 02:06:17.820 --> 02:06:20.080 I finally got around to listening to it. 02:06:20.680 --> 02:06:21.300 It's kind of bizarre. 02:06:21.860 --> 02:06:22.740 I really like it. 02:06:24.520 --> 02:06:25.480 Vitriolic sage. 02:06:25.740 --> 02:06:55.700 It is a one-man Chinese project. The album is what I believe are Mandarin characters. I cannot pronounce them. Really, really good. Think of atmospheric, aggressive black metal. Bastard Gray, Vortex of Disgust, Dirty, Dirty Death. Totally falls into that category. The band Ignominy. The album is called Imminent Collapse. I've kind of been tracking this as the tracks have come out. I would put it down as a contender for a really, really good time. 02:06:55.760 --> 02:07:25.720 album of the year the vocals remind me a lot of meshuggah which to me is not something i don't like i can totally deal with that but good album the band skyring mirror the album is called omni malevolence so they're on i void hanger which is a label that i completely love but when i think of i void hanger i think of like and this is a completely blanket term and doesn't encompass it all but like avant-garde black metal and that 02:07:25.760 --> 02:07:55.120 what this is to me. I hear a little bit of Bluto snored. I hear a little bit of tombs. I hear a little bit of like almost alternative grunge from the 90s, but I really did this album. I like that one a lot. And the last one you mentioned. Yeah, right on. And actually, now that I look at my list, that's it for me. So. Alrighty. John then. All right. We've talked about most of these. I'm going to do a mini Metalheads progcast here. Yes. All right. 02:07:56.900 --> 02:08:24.800 It's now officially out. It's the new Enslaved, obviously. You've heard us go on and on about it, but now it's officially released. I can mention it yet again, just because I want to. The Go Art album, we mentioned that. The Orb. I like this one a lot, and I've been a fan of theirs for the last three albums, and I like a lot of their stuff before that, but it's been spinning out since it's been out. We mentioned Ice Age Ready, not going to go on anymore of that. So two albums additionally that I've listened to. 02:08:25.540 --> 02:08:54.080 A.B.A. Band called Lunar. The album's called The Illusionist. They're a prog metal band from Sacramento, California. I've heard their stuff before, but this new one kind of caught me. It's a mix of prog metal. They've got a little prog rock going on. It's clean, harsh vocals. Surprised how much I liked it. I didn't think I would dislike it, but I was surprised at how much I did like it. So it's kind of cool. And then this one I just listened to today, this afternoon for the first time. 02:08:55.560 --> 02:09:24.840 was coming out, but it's been ages since this band's released an album. That's a band called Pressure Points. And I don't know if you remember, anyone remembers that, at least Jay and George, when I brought them up years ago. Because I believe Yanni checked them out because they're from Finland. But they just released a new album, they're called The Island. They're a prog metal band, melodic death band. Mix is kind of like, 02:09:28.660 --> 02:09:55.220 with Melodic Death. They do a thing, Jay will know what this means, so they don't sound like Vandam Plus, and I know Jay loves Vandam Plus like I do, but they have that kind of heavy proggy metal sound with the piano playing over top on the sound, and so while they don't sound like Vandam Plus, they kind of do that a little bit, and I didn't even realize they were releasing an album until yesterday, and I didn't listen to it for the first time until about, what is it, 02:09:55.320 --> 02:10:25.280 9-11 here. So about seven hours ago. So it's a cool band. That's all I got. That's my most recent stuff. I've been listening to a ton of other stuff that I'll bring up at the end when we pick our album of the episode. Jay? I've turned lots of weird stuff in, but obviously the primary two things I'm listening to right now are the Enslaved record and Megaton Sword, dude. Megaton Sword is starting to be 02:10:25.300 --> 02:10:55.280 is favorite to me is like merciful fader iron maiden like those that they could put out two three an ep and two so consistently good interesting emotional blah blah records i fucking love these guys dude i keep putting that record in that's good did you get the vinyl yet jay no did you get yours yeah i just got mine yesterday hopefully you're always a couple days ahead of me i know i ordered one of the weird colors or something but yeah hopefully it's coming soon um i say again though man like i'm not joking like this is like what i like about merciful 02:10:55.320 --> 02:11:25.180 Fade is what I like about this band. It's nothing like poppy metal and it's totally Euro metal, but everything is edgy and weird. And the phrasing, the lead singer's phrasing is so odd and awesome and everything's got hooks in it and stuff. Just fucking great. So those are really the two records I'm listening to right now, almost exclusively. All right. Jay's number one and number two at the year end. Right now it's Megaton Sword. Megaton Sword was your number one, the last record. So that's right. And they're going to, you know, somebody, 02:11:25.320 --> 02:11:53.820 I was going to work pretty hard to knock it out of my... Really? Yeah. Hmm. All right. I don't have a whole lot. I've been too busy to listen to much lately. I have been listening to that Dodd-Heim's Guard, which I already gushed about. So I'll move on from that. You squealed. Squee! I did listen to the new Pupil Slicer song, Blossom, that just came out. And I was pretty interested with that. I liked their last album. 02:11:55.320 --> 02:12:00.420 which was more just sort of straight up grindcore but this sort of like the venomous 02:12:00.760 --> 02:12:06.880 concept new record that completely left grind behind this one doesn't completely leave it 02:12:06.950 --> 02:12:10.180 behind but there's like clean vocals and then it gets grindy and so it's kind of interesting 02:12:11.300 --> 02:12:18.580 it's like accessible mixed with extreme I also listened to the two new Zeisma songs 02:12:20.060 --> 02:12:24.579 that's coming out in a couple of weeks next week maybe what's that George 02:12:25.220 --> 02:12:54.560 You don't know Zisma? I don't think so. X Y S M A. I think they're Swedish. Oh, maybe I have heard that. Yeah, they've been around a long time. I remember them 20 years ago, at least. Don't. What the heck was the name of the album? Hold on a second. No place like alone is the name is the new album. And that is dropping next week. So it's kind of hard rock with maybe a 02:12:54.580 --> 02:13:24.560 Mildly Psychedelic Finnish twist. Anywho, check it out. See what you think. Other than that, I've been listening to a bunch of Willie Nelson because I just read his book, It's a Long Story, which was an offshoot of my reading the Elvis book. It's so weird, dude. I literally put on a Willie Nelson record the other day for the first time in years. Swear to God. I put on the greatest 02:13:24.600 --> 02:13:53.400 Hits the song that will be, which really is great. I mean, you can do better than a greatest hits record, but. Yeah. So yeah, you know, Willie's cool. All right. Let's do Metal Thunderdome. Mark us on. This one's yours. So we're doing Bruce Dickinson's The Chemical Wedding versus Rob Halford's Resurrection. Nice. Well done, Galen. He's holding up the albums. Got them both. CD. So I decided to pit these two albums against each other. 02:13:53.940 --> 02:14:23.860 is supposed to be George's pick. So I was kind of under the gun. And this came to me because I saw this updated news about Bruce working on a new solo record. And it got me thinking about solo albums. And it just seems like solo albums don't get the same kind of attention that band albums do, unless you're Ozzy. You know, I think it's pretty rare for a band member to step out and deliver something that is regarded as good as what the band has done. 02:14:23.940 --> 02:14:25.240 from most people. 02:14:26.580 --> 02:14:27.380 And a lot of times, 02:14:27.850 --> 02:14:28.280 solo albums, 02:14:28.980 --> 02:14:31.420 they just seem to be forgotten to time to me. 02:14:31.600 --> 02:14:33.680 I'm guilty of this for these albums. 02:14:34.480 --> 02:14:37.600 I hadn't listened to these albums in about 20 years. 02:14:38.620 --> 02:14:39.620 I remember liking them, 02:14:39.740 --> 02:14:41.040 but I haven't played them forever. 02:14:42.180 --> 02:14:45.340 Even though I regularly play maiden and, 02:14:45.530 --> 02:14:46.180 and priest, 02:14:46.180 --> 02:14:46.900 the catalogs, 02:14:46.960 --> 02:14:47.420 all the cat, 02:14:47.420 --> 02:14:48.360 the whole catalogs. 02:14:48.830 --> 02:14:53.120 And so when I revealed this Thunderdome pick to everyone on instant messenger, 02:14:53.200 --> 02:15:22.280 Even Will said he had never heard either record because he considers himself a maiden and priest purist. It doesn't go beyond that, which kind of just strengthened my point. So I thought I should give these two records another go and pay them the respect, more respect than I have. And fuck, man, it was listening to them for the first time, but now with my kind of old metal ear wisdom. 02:15:23.220 --> 02:15:52.700 It's just a completely different experience. And I'm really glad I got to dust these off. If not for Bruce doing the solo album and me reading that, I don't think I would have even thought of them. And these two albums are regarded as, from what I've read, as the best solo albums from each of them. Obviously, people can disagree about that, but that's what I've read. So that's why I picked this. And I'm really interested to see what people think, because I don't know if people have been listening to these records. 02:15:54.220 --> 02:16:22.980 If you're all dusting them off like I have, I don't know which way you're going to go because I feel like when I listen to them, pretty close. All right. Carl, I know you haven't heard them, but it's America. You've got the right to vote. Would you like to cast your vote for one of these albums? I'll go with Halford because I love Halford more than I love Bruce. Not that there's anything wrong with Bruce. Bruce is a god. No doubt. But Halford's just, 02:16:24.320 --> 02:16:53.139 He's the metal god. He's the metal god. Wait, so Carl, you haven't heard these records at all? I have not heard these records. See, this proves my point. And you're a Maiden fan and a Priest fan, right? Seen them both live. And you haven't even heard those songs. This is what I'm talking about. This is exactly why I'm doing cast on this one. Educating the masses. But Galen has an opinion. I know he does. He's been waiting for this. Well, I have an opinion about this era of both of these guys. It's a very hard choice. 02:16:53.200 --> 02:17:22.400 for me, but I'm glad you picked these because these are extremely good records, extremely important records. And the records I listen to still as much as anything from either of these guys' other bands. Nice. And I also think it's cool. I don't know if this is intentional or not, but they're written, the music is written by the same guy on these records. I mean, he is the secret weapon to these guys. They're great vocalists. 02:17:23.219 --> 02:17:50.740 and he wrote the music. And he plays the good solos on this one. Not that Adriens are not good, but Roy Z's are better, you know? I'm just saying. And Bruce even guested on Halford's album, too. The one you love to hate. 02:17:53.219 --> 02:18:22.760 It's a tough choice though. I'm curious to hear what everyone has to say about this. I think ultimately for me, it's tough, but I think the Bruce record is better. And part of that is that just the band on here is so incredible. And I actually will say that I think Accident of Birth, the one before this, is better for me. But it's the same band and they sound fucking incredible. They're tight. 02:18:23.200 --> 02:18:53.179 They all have a really unique way of playing. Adrian is not on the Accident of Earth, but he has the same band. Adrian's on it. He just doesn't have any, he didn't write anything. He just has written guitars, basically. Yeah. And the Halford Band is great, too, but I think it's a little more of like a studio thing. I mean, by this time, I think on the Bruce record, these guys have been playing, touring for 02:18:53.219 --> 02:19:23.179 for a couple years. So you can tell. Yeah. Interesting. Incredible. All right. That is one a piece. Yeah. Well, we'll picked before. Oh, true. Right. We'll, we'll went Halford. So, so it's two Halford one Bruce Matt. Okay. Um, what is Markisan doing his last? Cause I got it. So I actually listened 02:19:23.200 --> 02:19:52.520 to the Helford stuff probably a year ago because I read his book. And so usually when I read somebody's book, I kind of follow along musically with the timeline of what's going on. And so the Bruce album and albums is something I'd never listened to. So dusting off was kind of an understatement for me in terms of those. And, you know, after listening, I listened to him each once earlier in the week, and then I listened to them each once today. 02:19:52.700 --> 02:20:21.260 as we watched the movie Oblivion with my family. Oh, nice. Good one. And a great movie. And not a bad soundtrack for that movie. But to me, I probably gravitate more towards Rob's vocals. But the reality is I'd heard Rob play in bands like Fight or Two. So I knew Rob's voice outside of Judas Priest. I didn't know Bruce's voice outside of Iron Maiden. 02:20:21.300 --> 02:20:48.860 And I worried that listening to that was going to sound like modern day Iron Maiden filler. And for the most part, it didn't. There were times where I kind of felt like I was listening to something from, you know, one of the more modern Iron Maiden albums. But at the end of the day, to me, the Bruce Dickinson album is, it just has more volume. It has more depth. It has more, you know, sound. And I would have to go with that. 02:20:51.320 --> 02:21:20.920 Interesting about like I actually did today I stopped and kind of looked at who had played in both bands. Is it Joey Z? Who you're referencing? Yeah, right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But yeah, it was interesting to see like his progression through Bruce's band into Rob's band, but also, you know, a very talented musician, but long story short going with Bruce. By the way, Joey Z is from Life of Agony. Interesting. Interesting. Ooh, two and two. All right. 02:21:22.720 --> 02:21:50.980 Where are we, John? My turn. Yeah. So I know I've listed these at some point, somewhere down the line, but I had to reacquaint myself with them again. And a couple of things that I noticed right off the bat, and Galen, you brought it up, that the secret weapon on these albums is Roy Z, because in his writing, he knew to write to their strengths for each one. So interestingly, when I listened to Bruce's album, 02:21:51.320 --> 02:22:21.140 I actually hear a lot of the choruses that he started to develop that he started moving towards for the post-reunion band. He has a very similar style in his choruses and it starts on his solo stuff. And I think Roy Z captures that in the way he helped write in his production. And he plays on that obviously. And then same with the with Halford's album. He captures that. 02:22:21.300 --> 02:22:50.800 style of what made Rob a great singer. And I had this weird kind of revelation for myself that this album feels like it should have been between Defenders of the Faith and Painkiller because there are some Defenders things that are going on, but it's a little brutal like Painkiller in spots. I wouldn't say it's poppy at all, but some of the choruses are more sing-along on Rob's album than they are on Bruce's. Bruce's album is much more, it's a darker feel. 02:22:51.320 --> 02:23:21.280 And I think that matches Bruce's voice in his return to Maiden. And so I noticed that Roise really was able to focus both of them with the part that he provided because he is the common denominator for both of those albums. And so I had a hard time picking between the two because obviously I love Maiden and Priest. Probably like Priest a little more. But a couple things that kind of set it aside for me is that 02:23:21.300 --> 02:23:51.280 On Resurrection, Helford goes... Balls deep on this one. I'm really trying to choose my words carefully here. He goes all in with his vocals. He's locked and loaded. He's locked and loaded. Thank you. I got the feeling listening to him that he had a point to prove. Absolutely. There are times when he sounds like Ripper on this album, that he goes even higher 02:23:51.739 --> 02:24:21.020 than him, you know, with some of his high screeches. And I don't think it, I don't know if he was doing it to prove a point or he's doing to say, yeah, it's actually, it's called resurrection for a reason. I mean, yeah, it really is. And I don't know if he was doing it to show a ripper so much as it was. Cause I don't know if he ever had an issue with him. I think it might've been just to say to the band, Hey, I'm still here. He talks about it in the book. Actually, he's saying, this is my comeback to fucking metal. And he does. The metal got his back. I'm fucking here. And yes, 02:24:21.080 --> 02:24:50.900 He wanted to get back to the band, not to interrupt you, but he talked about it in the book. Yeah. And it's interesting. It was meant to be that. It's interesting that it's around the time when both bands put out some super stinker albums, like Demolition from Priest sucks. I do like, I think Jugulator is okay. There's some cool tunes on there. It's not great, but it's okay. And I like a few songs off the Maiden albums that Blaze did. I have no issue with Blaze whatsoever or Ripper, but I didn't particularly care for the albums that much. Single songs. Yeah. And so you could see that, 02:24:51.080 --> 02:25:20.300 Both those guys proved that they still had a lot left. Obviously, I think they were at their peaks. And within the year, both Bruce and Adrian are back in the band. And within, what, three years? Halford's back in the band. So what it came down to... Oh, shit. This is a tough one for you, John. No, what it came down to, being the drummer that I am, Bobby Jarzombek is on Halford's album. 02:25:21.080 --> 02:25:21.200 So, 02:25:22.200 --> 02:25:22.280 so, 02:25:22.280 --> 02:25:23.500 Helford gets to win for me. 02:25:23.500 --> 02:25:23.520 Oh, 02:25:23.600 --> 02:25:23.820 wow. 02:25:24.460 --> 02:25:24.560 Well, 02:25:24.680 --> 02:25:27.200 that and the fact that Bruce plays on, 02:25:27.560 --> 02:25:28.560 or sings on Helford's album, 02:25:28.660 --> 02:25:29.420 and that to me is like, 02:25:29.660 --> 02:25:30.280 that wins too, 02:25:30.400 --> 02:25:30.500 so. 02:25:30.880 --> 02:25:31.060 Yeah, 02:25:31.100 --> 02:25:31.180 yeah. 02:25:31.920 --> 02:25:32.600 That's a cool song. 02:25:33.180 --> 02:25:33.260 Yeah. 02:25:33.380 --> 02:25:33.620 Wow. 02:25:33.980 --> 02:25:34.620 But Bobby, 02:25:34.880 --> 02:25:35.760 I'm a huge fan. 02:25:37.279 --> 02:25:38.080 As Galen knows, 02:25:38.220 --> 02:25:38.820 I'm a Fates fan, 02:25:38.920 --> 02:25:41.180 and Bobby's been with Fates for a long time now, 02:25:41.320 --> 02:25:42.460 and I'm just a huge fan of his, 02:25:42.560 --> 02:25:42.680 so. 02:25:43.080 --> 02:25:43.820 This is crazy. 02:25:44.040 --> 02:25:44.100 So, 02:25:44.220 --> 02:25:44.880 now we're at 3-2. 02:25:45.060 --> 02:25:46.560 I knew this was going to be a tough one. 02:25:47.220 --> 02:25:49.700 I think George is going to end up deciding that, 02:25:49.920 --> 02:25:50.020 probably. 02:25:50.440 --> 02:26:20.220 Oh yeah, it's three, three now. So yeah, I thought it was three, two. It's three, two right now. No, it's three, three. Jay's going right now. Oh, I see. But I, so I have a few things to say. One is this, this, these were definitely the best maiden and priest records that came out during this period. I'm like, I'm like Galen. These are records that I actually have and listen to and take just as seriously as the maiden and priest stuff. I love these records. 02:26:20.440 --> 02:26:21.700 and both of them. 02:26:22.900 --> 02:26:24.720 Rob's solo and Bruce's solo. 02:26:24.920 --> 02:26:27.740 These are part of my rotating collection. 02:26:28.140 --> 02:26:29.040 I love this stuff. 02:26:30.780 --> 02:26:33.340 I think Resurrection is probably Rob's best solo record. 02:26:33.680 --> 02:26:35.940 It's really, really fucking good, 02:26:36.080 --> 02:26:38.400 but I have such a high respect for Chemical Wedding 02:26:38.400 --> 02:26:39.420 that I have to go with that. 02:26:39.620 --> 02:26:40.980 And there's a couple reasons for that. 02:26:42.620 --> 02:26:44.860 First off, I was already a big fan of William Blake 02:26:45.070 --> 02:26:46.080 before this record came out. 02:26:46.160 --> 02:27:13.940 And William Blake is the English poet and artist whose songs are all based on his stuff. Right, inspired. First off, I was like, what the fuck? Bruce did this? This was also Bruce's full realization of what they sort of tried to do on Seventh Son of the Seventh Son. It has elements of that, not quote-unquote storyline, but like narrative in it. Only he took it all and went completely William Blake on it. 02:27:14.960 --> 02:27:44.880 And I just know dead space or songs or dead songs on it. And Rob's is great. It's just that the chemical wedding has this running narrative through it, which I love. And so I'm going chemical wedding. And the only other thing I'll say, I'll say two other things. One is that I love Bruce's records so much. I couldn't wait till they came on a vinyl and I just like loved it when they did, which was just a couple of years ago. Right. I mean, yeah. And I'm going to go ahead and agree with, 02:27:44.940 --> 02:27:45.520 and say, 02:27:47.510 --> 02:27:47.600 actually, 02:27:47.760 --> 02:27:47.840 no, 02:27:47.840 --> 02:27:48.620 I'm not gonna agree with the Gail. 02:27:48.700 --> 02:27:49.100 I'm just saying, 02:27:49.100 --> 02:27:49.960 I go back and forth. 02:27:50.030 --> 02:27:52.020 I can never decide which one of these is better. 02:27:52.060 --> 02:27:52.500 It's tough. 02:27:52.760 --> 02:27:52.860 Yeah, 02:27:53.030 --> 02:27:55.420 I can't because it's tough to be things like, 02:27:56.320 --> 02:27:56.400 um, 02:27:57.260 --> 02:27:59.800 taking the queen star children and Omega, 02:28:00.659 --> 02:28:01.020 um, 02:28:01.740 --> 02:28:02.220 the magician, 02:28:02.700 --> 02:28:02.920 um, 02:28:03.380 --> 02:28:03.860 arc of space. 02:28:03.970 --> 02:28:04.640 Oh my God, 02:28:04.670 --> 02:28:04.800 dude. 02:28:04.880 --> 02:28:06.780 But then there's like machine man and all these other ones. 02:28:07.420 --> 02:28:07.600 This is, 02:28:07.740 --> 02:28:10.460 these are two of Bruce's finest moments across any band. 02:28:10.670 --> 02:28:10.800 Yeah. 02:28:10.980 --> 02:28:11.040 Yep. 02:28:11.380 --> 02:28:11.740 I agree. 02:28:12.300 --> 02:28:39.300 And I don't necessarily think that's true about Resurrection, even though I think it's a really good record. So for me, definitely Chemical Wedding. All right. I called it. John was right. Three, three. This was a fun one. This was a good choice. Oh, thank you. Yeah. No, yeah. It's crazy how all of these different elements go into these two records that make them an interesting pick beside the fact that they're like the best solo records. Well, arguably. 02:28:42.280 --> 02:28:44.240 saying Roy Z like 10 more times because 02:28:44.290 --> 02:28:46.580 Roy Z is so important to these records. 02:28:46.580 --> 02:28:47.840 That was really interesting too. 02:28:48.680 --> 02:28:51.000 He's fucking getting back from whatever the fuck they were doing, you know. 02:28:51.240 --> 02:28:52.540 That's exactly what he did, yeah. 02:28:53.090 --> 02:28:55.160 Yeah, and we actually brought Maiden back. 02:28:55.450 --> 02:28:58.660 You know, it's, Halford's album's called Resurrection, 02:28:59.961 --> 02:29:03.920 but, you know, Maiden got resurrected because let's remember, 02:29:04.060 --> 02:29:08.100 they did Virtual 11 that same year that the Bruce Dickinson album came out, 02:29:08.100 --> 02:29:09.880 which was probably their worst album. 02:29:10.080 --> 02:29:10.960 No contest. 02:29:11.440 --> 02:29:11.560 Yeah. 02:29:11.580 --> 02:29:13.500 So I mean, 02:29:13.660 --> 02:29:14.560 and a year later, 02:29:14.700 --> 02:29:15.720 Bruce is back in the band. 02:29:15.890 --> 02:29:18.580 So I've never seen something where they said, 02:29:18.640 --> 02:29:18.740 Hey, 02:29:18.740 --> 02:29:21.220 we listened to this record that Bruce did. 02:29:21.320 --> 02:29:21.580 And then, 02:29:21.650 --> 02:29:21.880 you know, 02:29:21.960 --> 02:29:23.740 that's part of the reason that we decided to bring him back. 02:29:23.800 --> 02:29:24.240 But come on. 02:29:25.540 --> 02:29:26.640 That's gotta be a reason. 02:29:27.400 --> 02:29:27.760 Didn't, 02:29:27.880 --> 02:29:28.080 uh, 02:29:28.360 --> 02:29:29.760 their manager is the one that got, 02:29:29.830 --> 02:29:29.940 uh, 02:29:30.220 --> 02:29:31.420 Bruce and Steve Harris together. 02:29:31.920 --> 02:29:32.120 And I, 02:29:32.380 --> 02:29:34.000 I'm betting any money. 02:29:34.000 --> 02:29:36.060 I'll put it down that he was like, 02:29:36.430 --> 02:29:36.540 huh, 02:29:37.320 --> 02:29:39.160 Bruce still sounds pretty bad-ass. 02:29:39.540 --> 02:29:40.180 And it's a great record. 02:29:40.640 --> 02:29:40.820 And you, 02:29:40.960 --> 02:30:10.320 And you nailed it, John, when you were talking about the sounds on that Bruce album, you can hear them in Maiden. And Bruce, when he came back to Maiden, he was like, listen, we need to go back to what we used to do, not what you guys were doing before. And that was the resurrection. That's what made Maiden so huge when he came back and did Brave New World, which is my favorite. You hear a lot of his solo stuff on Dance to Death, I think, like with Monsieur, that just rakes him. That's a Bruce song, as far as I can tell. 02:30:10.960 --> 02:30:40.080 I mean, it sounds like his solo stuff all the way through. Yeah. Yeah. One other just thing worth mentioning to where Roy Z is concerned, and that is that Bruce readily admitted that he was thinking, maybe I just won't sing anymore. And I'm definitely not really going to sing metal anymore. And then Roy Z sent him Tears of the Dragon, which is the single that came out as a single. I don't know if it was attached to anything in particular that led to their further collaboration. So Roy Z really pulled his ass out of the like. Is that like balls to Picasso or something? 02:30:40.980 --> 02:31:10.200 Yeah, that's what the song ended up on. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's on that. Okay. The rest of the record is not Roy Z though, right? Or is it? No, he's on that one. It's a different vibe. It's a different band. Yeah, totally different. Honestly, we should be talking about Tattooed Millionaire is all I'm saying. Well, it's interesting. It's your pick, George. And then I get to go. We could have a tie on this. We could have a tie. We could. So tell us, George. So, well, I like both these albums. I like Bruce. 02:31:12.379 --> 02:31:15.620 I liked this for Rob because 02:31:17.960 --> 02:31:20.420 at the time I wasn't a big painkiller fan 02:31:21.170 --> 02:31:24.500 because I felt like they were just sort of jumping on the whole thrash thing and he was 02:31:24.530 --> 02:31:28.160 just screeching needlessly when he has such this good regular old voice 02:31:28.820 --> 02:31:31.780 I like it now but at the time I was a little sort of eh 02:31:32.400 --> 02:31:34.360 and then he did fight and I wasn't really into that 02:31:39.800 --> 02:31:40.240 but 02:31:40.240 --> 02:32:10.220 The first song and he starts off and he's all up there in those highs and I'm like, I don't know. But then he comes back into the Rob's nice safe zone. The Rob zone. The Rob zone. And he stays there most of the time. And so I was like, all right, I like this. I dig this. And, you know, the duet with Bruce was also really cool. But when Marc Hassan announced this over the chat, I said, okay, well, you know, Marc J down for 02:32:10.260 --> 02:32:17.740 I'm a good wedding obviously and I was right and uh personally I I didn't think there was much of a 02:32:19.140 --> 02:32:23.460 uh challenge there I was like I'm gonna go with Bruce you know but let me listen to him again 02:32:23.720 --> 02:32:38.420 anyway and I'll listen to him again and and I I so I thought I was gonna go with Bruce uh I listened to them again I listened to Resurrection I said okay I gotta change my mind here I'm definitely going with Bruce um and that's what I'm going with 02:32:42.800 --> 02:33:07.840 It is good, but I was just trying to mislead you there for a second. But yeah, no. Go on, Bruce. You know, overall, like as a singer, I think I like Rob better in truth. Agreed. But I think in this particular context, you know. Yeah, I feel like while Resurrection is a good album, it's a little more contrived. 02:33:08.420 --> 02:33:37.100 that it's a bunch of songs that are in his wheelhouse and they're what they are. Whereas Bruce's album, it's a story. It's more creative. It's just, I don't know. It's in drop D or in drop C or whatever it's in. Bruce hadn't really done a record like that before. Matt, you were saying I apologize. We've talked about this before, but if I could hang out with one of these two guys, it's Rob all day. Nothing against Bruce, but honestly. 02:33:38.480 --> 02:34:07.680 All signs were pointing to Rob, but I just couldn't, I couldn't argue against. I'd be like, Bruce, can you fly me to see Rob? Thanks. Honestly, I think Bruce is kind of a rock star and he's kind of like, he's a bit of an eccentric. I think Rob is just a nice guy who likes cats, you know? Even in reading both books, I found myself very much more connected with Rob's book as I've been. Totally right. All right, Markisan, what's it going to be? Right. Is it going to be a tie? 02:34:08.420 --> 02:34:37.800 Is it going to be a win? So my pick. Listen, I've always been more of a maiden guy than a priest guy. I think you guys know that from all the conversations we've had. Sounds like a tie. I just love the epic songwriting of the band and Bruce's vocals. I just like them more than the kind of like fun and fuck you metal of Halford and George's Priest. And yeah, I'm not going to drag it on, George. 02:34:37.800 --> 02:35:06.960 that remains true for me on these two solo records. I think Halford's Resurrection is really great. It's fun. It's got a lot of great riffs. The record really moves. Halford sounds awesome on it. And it's full of big, dumb, sexy time lyrics clearly made for Will. Yes. It's a blast. But for me, Bruce delivers an all time great metal record with the Chemical Romance. I think it's up there with the best maiden albums. And I'm actually, 02:35:07.800 --> 02:35:35.240 I'm happy that I did this cast or I did this Thunderdome so I could listen to it again. But I'm sad because I haven't been listening to this for a long time. I think every song is excellent on it. The album is fucking heavy. It's dynamic throughout. It's got really interesting, dark and introspective lyrics inspired, like Jay said, by William Blake. And even the fucking bonus track slap. 02:35:37.800 --> 02:36:04.200 But if you get the Japanese release, it's like one of my favorite Dickinson songs ever. So, you know, I'm team Bruce. I have been, you know, when it comes to Maiden and Priest, and it remains the same. Not that I don't love Priest, but I just feel like there's something extra special about the chemical wedding. I have to get this on vinyl. I don't know what I was doing by not listening to this all these years. 02:36:06.000 --> 02:36:35.980 Revisit and Accident of Birth 2, dude, if you haven't. I mean, you're really just as good. And then as a final aside, too, I want to point out Priest's new record, it sounds like it's in the can, dude. And Firepower was fucking great. I can't wait for the new Priest record. I really, really still like Firepower. Oh, I do, too. I think it's awesome. Might be the best post, might be the best Rob reunion record, possibly. Oh, it is. I think it is. Definitely. And I totally agree with you guys, man. I totally want to hang out with Halper. He just seems like 02:36:36.000 --> 02:36:38.720 more fun. And I think that's reflected in his music as well. 02:36:40.180 --> 02:36:48.240 Bruce just has, I don't know, there's just a deepness to his stuff. He just thinks about it, thinks about himself, I think a bit more. 02:36:49.320 --> 02:37:00.120 So do you guys know that not entirely related, it must, you would have heard of this and you may not have seen it, but Bruce made a feature film called, and I believe it's called The Chemical Wedding. 02:37:00.210 --> 02:37:00.320 Yeah. 02:37:01.620 --> 02:37:05.220 And it's vaguely related to this story, but not really. 02:37:05.420 --> 02:37:34.760 about a guy who conjures up Alistair Crowley. Oh, yes. I saw that. It's actually worth seeing, strangely enough. Well, this is great. I mean, Bruce wins it. Bruce wins. Bruce wins. They're both amazing now. And I like how everybody really thought about the albums and, you know, really liked all the albums, it seems like, or both albums. You know, it's funny. 02:37:34.780 --> 02:38:04.720 I have certainly brought up, I bring up chemical wetting and I brought it up on the cast line. Part of it is because I want people so bad to hear it. Like, I'm like, if you're a maiden fan or a metal fan, you haven't heard this. Like you are missing out. Yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to, we'll peep later. No, I mean, it's the whole reason for doing the Thunderdome. Cause like, again, you just kind of forget about these solo albums. It's really bizarre. And I even saw, cause I listened to them. I don't, 02:38:04.780 --> 02:38:34.760 have the album so I just listen to them on YouTube where you can get the full one so I need to really listen to them where I have a better quality file but like all the comments were on were basically that like nobody remembers this album and you know it doesn't get the regard that it should and so now I have to rethink this. I want to ask Galen a question because he sounds like somebody who loves these was an equal measure with me and I'm wondering if you liked Tyranny of Souls as much as 02:38:34.780 --> 02:39:03.920 either of the other two, which I'll just tell you I didn't. It's okay. Yeah, I agree completely. It's a good record. It doesn't even come close to these. And I think part of that is the band, too, because that's definitely more of like a studio band he put together on Tierney. Well, they're working on stuff together now. I'm very excited. Fingers crossed. Yeah, yeah. All right. Good choice, Marcus. Yeah. 02:39:04.780 --> 02:39:09.220 It wasn't that hard for me, but if you had pitted against accidents, the birth, against chemical 02:39:09.420 --> 02:39:13.780 wetting, this would have been so hard. 02:39:15.680 --> 02:39:17.420 All right. So we have one last 02:39:17.580 --> 02:39:19.240 thing to do, and that is 02:39:19.440 --> 02:39:19.600 pick... 02:39:23.420 --> 02:39:25.540 Everybody needs to pick their album of the episode, 02:39:25.810 --> 02:39:27.600 which is any album mentioned 02:39:28.120 --> 02:39:29.520 in any capacity by 02:39:29.720 --> 02:39:29.860 anyone 02:39:31.459 --> 02:39:33.601 that is your favorite album that 02:39:33.620 --> 02:40:03.500 has been mentioned for this episode. Yeah. So, Carl. I'll go with California by Mr. Bungle. All right. Nice. Sweet. Galen. Following in his reasoning, I'll go with Stay in Class by Jesus Priest. Yeah. Fuck yeah, dude. Fuck yeah. All right, Markisan. Yeah, I got to go with Chemical Wedding by Bruce Dickinson just because, I mean, wow, it just kind of blew up in my world again. 02:40:04.640 --> 02:40:10.680 having heard it haven't heard it in like 20 years so for anyone who hasn't spun it i think 02:40:10.800 --> 02:40:15.920 you're in for a real treat you know just heavy diverse uh bruce is at the height of his powers and 02:40:16.460 --> 02:40:21.620 if this album has been collecting dust in your collection like it like it was for me dig it out and 02:40:21.740 --> 02:40:28.980 play it loud with with fresh ears and then you can thank me on social media indeed where we will be 02:40:29.040 --> 02:40:30.960 We post a new poll for people on Facebook. 02:40:31.120 --> 02:40:33.920 Yeah, we always do a poll. That's right. So we'll see who wins. 02:40:34.370 --> 02:40:34.480 Yep. 02:40:35.480 --> 02:40:35.920 With the audience. 02:40:36.520 --> 02:40:37.280 Exactly. Matt. 02:40:38.180 --> 02:40:38.840 Oh, yeah, right. 02:40:39.220 --> 02:40:43.460 You guys act like I have a choice in this. I don't. I signed a contract years ago. 02:40:44.720 --> 02:40:48.240 And my album of the episode is Leviathan by Mastodon. 02:40:49.260 --> 02:40:58.860 If I hadn't signed that contract, my album of the episode would be The Flight After the Fall by Witch Ripper, which sounds like Mastodon, who had an album called Leviathan. 02:40:59.560 --> 02:41:28.520 What would contractually happen to you if you didn't pick it? What would they do to you? Absolutely nothing. I sold my soul for rock and roll, i.e. Mastodon's Leviathan. Okay, I would lose my soul. Fair enough. I don't know how that works, but I didn't read the fine print. You never do. All right, John. So I'm going with Ice Age, Waves of Lost in Power. Big fan from their stuff from the late 90s, early 2000s. 02:41:28.980 --> 02:41:57.840 a nice return back 22 years later. Not only was it a nice return for me to revisit everything and enjoy a new album from them, but it also got me digging back through all my old 90s stuff that I haven't listened to in a long time during a period that I really enjoyed for a lot of prog metal bands, but also had me looking and searching for stuff that I either heard of or never listened to before. So it was kind of a nice revisit to do that. 02:41:59.240 --> 02:42:00.180 Right. I see H. 02:42:01.140 --> 02:42:23.640 So mine, I'm going to, in honor of Galen, who, whose opinion I value and who, and because it is a hard thing for me to go back and forth on these, even though we just did what we just did, I'm going to go with accident of birth. Bruce Dickinson's accident of birth. And not only that, but I'm going to point out one other very cool thing about this record. We talked about Roy Z and its relationship to Comic-Con. Derek Riggs did the cover art. 02:42:24.010 --> 02:42:24.700 So that's cool. 02:42:25.740 --> 02:42:26.060 Nice. 02:42:27.020 --> 02:42:28.280 Who did all the maiden stuff. 02:42:28.560 --> 02:42:58.460 Yeah. Yeah. Much of it. No, right. Not all. Almost all. Yeah. All the good ones. All the shit that matters. Yeah. There you go. It's not out yet, but I am going with Doddheim's guard. So you really love that, George. You can not stop talking about it. Well, it's just going to get worse. And is it dropping George? May. Is it? Oh, it's actually May. Okay. Maybe not. Maybe it is April. Hold on. 02:42:58.620 --> 02:42:59.260 One second. 02:43:00.450 --> 02:43:00.800 Because we're, 02:43:01.480 --> 02:43:05.600 March is turning out to be one of those months again where like tons of stuff is coming out. 02:43:05.880 --> 02:43:06.000 Yeah. 02:43:06.140 --> 02:43:06.740 But March is, 02:43:07.280 --> 02:43:07.540 you know, 02:43:08.160 --> 02:43:08.220 Yeah. 02:43:08.440 --> 02:43:08.600 It's, 02:43:08.780 --> 02:43:09.400 it's over. 02:43:09.600 --> 02:43:09.720 It's, 02:43:09.780 --> 02:43:10.300 it's enslaved. 02:43:10.500 --> 02:43:11.180 But my April, 02:43:12.080 --> 02:43:12.680 April 14th. 02:43:12.740 --> 02:43:12.840 I wasn't sure. 02:43:13.120 --> 02:43:14.620 I wasn't sure what was coming out in April. 02:43:14.720 --> 02:43:15.540 I know there's stuff coming out, 02:43:15.660 --> 02:43:17.680 but I didn't seem to be as big of a month as, 02:43:18.000 --> 02:43:18.440 as March. 02:43:18.660 --> 02:43:19.820 It's coming out on Metallica day. 02:43:21.460 --> 02:43:22.340 Also decibel day. 02:43:23.380 --> 02:43:23.820 So let's, 02:43:25.520 --> 02:43:25.620 thanks. 02:43:25.880 --> 02:43:27.380 He's very kind and handsome. 02:43:27.640 --> 02:43:27.720 Yes. 02:43:28.160 --> 02:43:55.740 Thank you, Galen. Thank you, Carl. Thanks for hanging out with us. No problem. Nice meeting you, Carl. Good seeing you, Galen. Thanks to Chris for coming on. Really excited for him. Thank you so much for having us. Thanks for sticking around. Talk to you later. Have a good one. Talk to you later. Talk to the Irination Station. See ya. Bye. 02:44:40.760 --> 02:44:57.260 Hey, Metalheads Podcast. Thanks so much for the lengthy ingredients on all the beers that you guys are drinking. But I'm a little lost. I just can't get a full grasp of what it is you're drinking. Maybe you guys can include the original gravity, maybe the end gravity. 02:44:58.140 --> 02:45:06.260 Also, maybe the Play-Doh and the IBUs would be, it would really help me out in really nailing down what the fuck you guys are drinking.