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Now, here is the podcast, Metal Heads Podcast.

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Hello and welcome to the Metal Heads Podcast. My name is George.

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My name is Jay, but it also is Will.

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My name is John.

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This is the Matt Situational Paradox.

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And this is Markisan.

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And with us tonight is Alyssa Mosseri, bass player for Lord Dying,

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and the multi-instrumental empress behind Grigax. Alyssa is also a very talented tattoo artist, illustrator, and designer. So you do all the things, Alyssa. We're really happy to have you on the podcast. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Yeah, so I thought maybe we'd just start by getting into Lord Dying because you got the new album that just came out, you know, and it's gotten great reviews.

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What was it like to record? It's your first album with the band as an official member. So what was it like to record that? Well, first of all, it was an incredible experience to be able to work at God City Studios with Kurt Blue alongside, of course, my bandmates who did an incredible job writing this. It was part of a trilogy, really. It's like a triple concept.

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The first album that started this was Mysterium Tremendum. And that came out this just a couple months before I joined actually. And I remember loving that album. And I just happened to play a show with them and they needed a bass player for the tour in Europe. And I said, absolutely, I'll do it. And I've been a standing member since and we've just gotten along really well.

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So being able to get into the studio with them was like really great. Just watching them work. You know, our drummer, his other band is Tithe. And I remember seeing him play in that band and was just blown away by his performance. And then I figured I found out that I was also going to be in a band with him too. So Lord Dying is kind of like this, like, I don't know. I felt like a little intimidated at first because everybody was just so

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exponentially awesome at their instrument. So, you know, sticking or having the ability to stick around and like catch up and figure out what's going on in their minds and like interpret that and like put that into my bass playing and then being able to be on the album. You know, Chris and Eric really are the main driving writers of the band. And just Kevin and I bring our own flair to it. And it was cool just being able to network like,

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just our ideas together while this was being composed. So to get in the studio and watch it really bloom was really incredible. It was a great experience. That's awesome. So can you talk about how you develop your style of bass playing in the first place? Oh, got a bass just thrown in my hand. I would say like 15 years ago,

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He needed a bass player in his band and I was a guitar player and he was like, here, take this bass. And that's basically it. That's how I got. At least we wondered, does anybody just start playing bass without playing guitar? I play bass in bands because I already played guitar and nobody wanted to play the bass. But I mean, other than people like Les Claypool or something, but it is such a fabulous instrument to play. It just has so much more complexity and depth to it that I don't think

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people understand. So yeah, it's awesome.

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Yeah. Really like the style that I ended up developing was more of a very punk rock kind of noise rock style, knowing that I have to really hold it down and then get like, just let the guitar do what he does. Like, I don't even, I don't even pay attention half the time to what the guitar player is doing unless we have to really lock in. It's just really about me and the drummer for majority of the time, I would say.

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I feel that is a great place for me to be. And then we can go into the nuances with like the, you know, getting a little bit more detailed playing when it comes clarifying a part, you know, like really lock guitars and just nail on it there. Like that was a different thing for me to learn with being in Lord dying. I was a little bit more free to hold things down.

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Now I'm holding it even more together. If I was just doing my own thing, it would sound like a mess. Yeah, Matt, I was going to ask the exact same question because I've been listening to metal for 45 years and I never really knew the transition of like, not transition, but like a bass player. Like, do they always start out a guitar player and end up being a bass player? Some people are just like, nope, I want to be a bass player and that's it.

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I see myself more lately. I dabble in the guitar, but like George came these bases. I'm like, this looks like fun. This is easy. Not easier, but like more fun, I guess, in a way. Definitely not easier, just funner. It's heavy. Funner, funnier, fun. Funner. It's a word now. It's danceable, I guess. Like, it's like that inner feeling like, oh, I just want to dance around this song. Then like, I need to be perfect and nail everything.

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Because playing a solo is more about, I would say a guitar solo is about more of an expression of a thought or feeling. And bass is kind of the feeling all the time, really. I feel it more like you have to have the right feel. You have to keep that time in your, like it's a bodily function almost, less than like a technical. It can be extremely difficult, don't get me wrong.

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But it's got more feeling to me. And with the drums, you know, the rhythm section, as everyone always says, like, y'all are holding down the fort. Like, you know, you are watching the wall as, you know, if people want to freestyle or something like that. Not that y'all don't get to freestyle as well. But, you know, as we say, you know, you have to keep things in check. Well, and it sounds like you got a good rapport with the drummer and Lord Dying, which I guess is important for the rhythm section. It's hugely important because I was,

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You guys know I was a drummer and

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my friend and by the way who was in the band

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he started out playing bass first

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which is really funny you guys asked that question

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but yeah

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when you get along with bass drummer

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when that's symbiotic it's great

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because you're holding things down

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but you're the whole foundation completely

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you know so anyone could do what they want to do

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while you hold it down

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but Fender's band is like Rush

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where they get to go off all the time

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and Alex the guitarist holds it down

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It depends on the situation.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There was a lot of like back and forth with that on the newer album.

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I noticed too.

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Like we have those rush moments.

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We have those really proggy moments.

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Like there's like six moments,

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you know,

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like it's very proggy.

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Was that a big change for you?

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Since you said that you had kind of a punkier approach to playing

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bass.

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And now if you listen to Lord dying's progression over their albums,

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they've gotten,

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While they still have their heavy stuff, they still play some burners. They've gotten a little progier, but it's their version of prog, not a traditional style. But was that a big change for you to kind of venture into maybe not newer territory, but just different territory? It was definitely a challenge at first because a lot of this stuff, again, like Chris was masterminding a lot of this during the pandemic because he is a proud dad. And, you know, they had a newborn kid.

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you know is you know jeopardize somebody's family by having like oh let's just have band practice it's like no let's just maybe like take a step back and you know maybe bring to the table what we want to hear like so like I was learning a lot more about Chris's style of how he writes and then trying to bring that from like his perspective to my perspective and so yeah it was a change from the norm that I would do but it wasn't

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It felt more like playing a guitar, too, than a lot of these things. I'm playing a lot along with the guitars on this record. So the skill level definitely was upped, for sure. And I'm like, kind of pat myself on the back for it. That's awesome. You're like, I do got it. Yeah. It's a great album. We do a monthly album of the month, and we each pick one, and three of us picked it for January.

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So yeah, let's, since we've been talking about instruments, when did you actually start getting into music when you were young? Oh, that was like a first baby's first, you know, that was from the beginning. No doubt about it. Like my parents were both really into, like my mom was really into, like, she really liked Motown and like that on the other side of the coin.

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She's like one of the first people I ever heard listen to Tool. So like. Isn't that interesting? Your mom was in a Motown in Tool. Both bass heavy band and genre subgenre. Good point, John. That's awesome how it works out. Yeah, she was always really ensnared by Danny Carey's playing. And, you know, I had never heard anything like it. You know, she's playing it in the car. And I'm like a little kid. And I'm like, I like Tool too, I guess.

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Yes, it's, there you go. And my dad was always a big fan of John Bonham, Led Zeppelin, of course, you know. My whole family was really into that, like hippy-dippy. We had two members of my family, went to Woodstock 69. So, got to hear some stories about that type of stuff and it really, like, influenced my drive to do that. But I was really into piano. They had, like, a little kid piano and I started playing that around, like, three years old and kind of had an earful. So, they, yeah, they were like,

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All right, well, this is where she wants to go. She wants to do music. Yeah. Well, listen, did you have like any kind of like a rebellious stage? Like your mom was in the Motown and some tool and your dad was, you know, into his, as you say, hippy dippy stuff. Did you ever have a phase where like, you know what? Screw you guys. I'm going to like country and rap and hip hop. And did you ever have that phase? Cause I'm a 13 year old daughter who was born and raised on metal. But I feel like she's going through that rebelliousness.

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stage where she still likes it. She listens to it every day in the car because I put it on. When I look at her playlist, it's a little bit different these days. You ever have that rebellion stage? Yeah, I went through my corn stage. I will not. I was less, I was blind and my mom was like, what is this? What happens? The joke is. Sorry, sorry. I'm absolutely no disrespect. We're laughing. Two reasons.

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One is because Matt, the situation paradox, went through a stage like that. To me, that's not a rebellion stage. That's just like, okay, just a different genre of metal. So you've been metal all along. Unless a Will would kill for his daughter to listen to Korn right now. Yes, I would. I would too. Yeah. I guess the rebellion stage really was started befriending a lot of people who were older than me while I was like,

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I was bad. I started smoking cigarettes when I was 11. I thought I was older than I was, clearly. I started hanging around a lot of older kids. I think one of my introductions to crazy music was Dillinger Escape Plan when I was about 13, 14 years old. I remember telling my mom I was going to go sleep over at my friend's house.

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I ended up going seeing Dillinger Escape Plan

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in Philadelphia.

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Oh, man. Sweet.

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That's quite a show to see at that age.

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Just real quick, my first show at 13

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on my own was Sammy Hagar.

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Okay, think about that.

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You go and see Dillinger Escape Plan,

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like literally did they destroy half the stage

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during their show that night?

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I was mortified.

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They're crazy on stage.

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Yeah, there were people just stage diving everywhere.

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I'm going to my PA's and just was the most insane thing I've ever seen. And I got the 43% burnt CD from that. And then I had a little CD player that would have an alarm clock. So I put it in there and then like, wow, my mom would come in and be like, what is this? And that would be my alarm clock for like a year. Yeah. Alyssa, are you from the Philly area? Yeah. A hundred percent.

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Whereabout? I am too. I grew up in a, what used to be a farm town area called like Garnet Valley. It was in Delaware County. So Delco. Delco. Yeah. And yeah, so we were really close to a lot of, like, there was a lot of house shows and like VFW shows going on at that time. Like, like I said, I had older friends who would take us to like Delaware, like Newcastle. We would see like basement shows.

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and go to Philly, go to the, what is it? The Rotunda, 4040, like West Philly basement shows. It's pretty wild. Is, you say Garnet? Like Garnet, like the stone Garnet. Yeah, yeah. Is, is that near like Pennant Square or Chadds Ford or is it that area? Exactly there. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I went to undergrad at Westchester. So I spent a lot of time down in the, like,

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Chad's forward and right off 202. Yeah, no, I lived right off of was a route one. Yeah. Yeah. Don't go. Go birds. If you like sports. Yeah. I think. What does that say? Philadelphia. Okay. Philadelphia. Yeah. Yeah. That's more like it. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds right. Hey, Jay. Thanks for joining us.

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especially my apologies to our guests not that i bring that much to no worries hi jay you guys all just rose up yeah well i'm glad will commented i've had so many fucking nails in my tires for the last like year i don't even know what what and i didn't have anything for like two years before that anyway i'm here and still alive i'll tell you jay offline i'll tell you a story my recent nails and screws and tires i get a lot and i am interested but let me at least just finish this mild

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by saying I drove the craziest four-wheel drive road today that was such like nerve-wracking and I picked up a nail in the Walmart parking lot I mean you're like anyway hi and uh welcome to you Alyssa I'm in Philadelphia right now as we speak no I'm in Portland Oregon you're in in Portland which is cool I've been there a couple times but I heard you call it the heavy metal retirement community on a podcast so I wanted to get into that what is what is the metal scene like there oh I mean

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When you go to a show, like you'll go to a show at Dante's or something, which is a great venue. I love that spot. First show I ever played with Lord Dying was at Dante's. So, and anyway, so what happens is like you're in the crowd and then like you look and you're like, that's the bass player of Cannibal Corpse. What the hell? Like, and then somebody's like, oh yeah, he just moved here. I'm like, what? And then, you know, I like another thing about,

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the metal scene here it's like i bought a car and i was you know the guy i bought the car off of was on the phone he goes oh yeah i was just talking to chino from the deftones down here and i'm like what chino lives here now too elvira lives here elvira elvira yeah is there another one yeah i was gonna say do you know other elviras well no i thought maybe it was like some elvira in a metal band i didn't know or something but

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You know, at Best Buy, I bought an Elvira action figure doll and I sent it to my dad because my dad used to love Elvira.

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Yeah, she's cool, man.

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She's a really good person, too.

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Oh, you've run into her?

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The people who have say she's the sweetest person on earth.

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Yeah, she's like a LGBTQ icon.

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She came out as a gay maybe a couple years ago.

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Yeah, I remember.

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And so her and her partner live here. And I don't know. She's just, she's pretty bitching. I like her. She's really funny too, by the way. Like, did you ever see her movie? It was like in the eighties. It's a funny fucking movie. Yeah. Her deal is like, she could hang with the boys like during, you know, the hair metal days. Yeah. She put them in their place, which is pretty unheard of, you know, because there was a pretty unruly group of guys. So yeah, she commanded

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a lot of respect from people. It's pretty, pretty cool. Yeah. I think she still does. I mean, she's going to be an icon forever. Yep. So did these guys tell you how much we like your record? Yeah. Cause I think we're all pretty much into the new record. Well, thank you. Yeah. I heard three of you guys picked it for January. Yep. Jay was one of them. It's really good. Yeah. Well, thank you. Yeah. Super proud of it. That's cool. I want to switch gears a little bit and talk about your art.

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because you're a tattoo artist but you've done all kinds of different things you've

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actually done album covers design work so how did you start getting into drawing and creating

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artistically my grandfather drew so like and he was like uh you know could look at something and

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like redraw recreate it really easily like he was drawing on the backs of like placemats and you know

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And he was just drawing all the time. And apparently I inherited that exact thing. Like I just, that was just part of me right there. Like just born that way. And when my family started noticing that they nurtured that one too, they were just like, yep, that's what she wants to do. So they, between the music and the art, that's always been a thing for sure. And yeah, I just took a lot of, I was always taking classes like every day, like after school.

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summer classes. I was just always drawing. Did you go to school for art too? Yeah, I did. It was an interesting experience because I dropped out like twice because I was like, it's art school. You don't have to go to art school to be an artist. You don't. There's your rebellion, Will. Yeah, also the money. Oh, yeah. Did you go in the Philly area? Yeah, I was at Tyler School of Art, which is part of Temple University. Okay, yeah.

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Yeah, I went for printmaking because, you know, punk rock, screen printing. Also, it was kind of a secret move for me to learn how to permanently work on things and then, like, apply that to tattooing. Printmaking kind of lends itself to that world. That was kind of my covert way of getting into understanding permanent work, like making mistakes.

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and learning how to like not make mistakes because you shouldn't. Yeah. First time you tattooed somebody, were you like, oh shit, don't fuck up. Yeah, totally. And I really did. You fucked up. Yeah. It was blown out. It's just that it's not perfect, but it's still there. The color is still there. It's on my mentor. His name's Taco.

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and he's a great dude he taught me what to do and definitely what not to do like the hard way

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but yeah that's cool apprenticeship with no tattoo school nothing none of that was it hard for you to make that

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transition from doing traditional art to tattoo art i know you were worried about messing up but it seems like it's a kind of a different discipline even though it's still art yeah it is you can't

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Nowadays, a lot of people will do these elaborate, a lot of line work type stuff, but it looks really cool for now. And my caution is always like, some of that line work is probably going to bleed into itself, start to expand over time. And that's the difference between tattooing versus doing a sketch or even just drawing.

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Like trying to get those values, those, I don't know, like trying to shade something with like hatch work as a drawing is perfectly fine. But when you're tattooing, you have to know maybe everything needs to be spaced out a lot more or you have to know exactly how to apply the machine to the skin. Because if you even, you know, I can't really go into it because like it's too much to explain. Exercise on unlearning how to draw like in a classic style.

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and then applying that to a three-dimensional surface that grows and is living and like changes over time yeah it seems like such a responsibility that you just made me nervous by saying like i don't want to drive that car yeah it's like like you know how to drive stick but you still don't understand like the handling of it and then once you handle of it then you can you know move on up to

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You know, racing, the Ferrari, you know, I don't know how else to explain it, but you know, everything handles very differently when you're doing tattoos, for sure. Are you working out of a shop in Portland or do you privately doing things or? I'm doing it privately at the moment because like shops are, they're cool, but right now the industry is a little like, I'm not a little, but like very saturated. And so, you know, sitting for five days a week,

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and a tattoo shop is like something I've done a lot, you know, past 13 years. It's a little slower than I would love it to be. So I kind of told myself, you know, maybe it's time to just take some clients on a need to basis rather than relying on it solely. And so now I'm just doing more like commission work and doing some other side project things that are going to hopefully, you know, just make ends meet.

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The tattoos are doing great though. I'm doing like really cool stuff that I like to do. I do like the walk-in. Do you feature them on Facebook or anything? Your completed pieces? If we wanted to go look. Yeah, I put everything as unusual that I would be like if it was a walk-in tattoo like if I was working in a tattoo shop oftentimes I don't usually post the walk-ins because it's like not my idea or it's somebody else like came in with a drawing or maybe it's just like

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something that I'm not personally looking for other people to want to get for me. I don't want to put out there what you want to put out there permanently to the world. I mean, I'm a technician. Let's just be real. So I'm sorry to keep making you tell stories, but is there any tattoo where you were like, I can't do that for you, dude, or ma'am? The most bizarre request. Like a bad, you know, a bad idea tattoo or anything?

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that you did kind of say no to?

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There's lots of bad ideas that instead of them just being bad ideas,

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I think a lot of people just like come to the table with ideas they've seen.

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And I know that in their mind, they see it differently.

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And so I like to talk to them about like what is like, yeah, that already exists on that person.

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Maybe we try to do this and let's see what you think.

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And so instead of it being like a bad idea, it's just like a stepping stone, you know,

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But there have been times where I've I just recalled recently a person asked me to do a very large piece on their leg and it just happened to look exactly like the work of this one artist who's amazing his name is Thomas Hooper and his work is incredible. I love his work but it looked entirely too much like his work for me to be comfortable. I don't know maybe I know it's really hard to ask the guy who's

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who's charging a lot of money, who's got books closed for the next three years to ask that guy to do it. But there's certain styles I'm not comfortable with. And it's good to just say no out of respect for what the person wants. Makes sense. I can see that. Seems to me relationship names are always a bad. Yeah. Oh, yeah. A relative. Okay, mom, dad, their names, maybe somebody passed away or something or a friend. That's a good idea.

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relationship name take a step back go have a drink come back in 20 minutes and let me know you still want me to do this yeah that's a funny okay so you have to be willing you have to be willing sorry i'm gonna relocate but hold on one moment sorry it's gonna be an upshot of my face we've never had this actually no we've had this from will yeah my nose hair is like hey guys you really don't

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I'm going to go into the studio here. All right. There we go. That's much better. There we are. So yeah, it's kind of faux pas to say no. If you're working in a street shop, you try to tell them like, are you sure? Like you bring them aside, you know, like half the time their boyfriend and their girlfriend's like standing like right here. And you don't want to say it in front of them because you don't want to make them fight in front of them.

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everybody but it's kind of a wise decision to take them aside and be like so how long have you been with this person like are you guys married like what are you guys doing like you know i've actually had to cover up a name and then immediately after they're like i want this person's name on i'm like did we not learn the first time that's crazy it's like you're a counselor yeah i mean my so granted i only have tattoos so i don't know what i'm

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I was told and I've kind of upheld that like if you want something on your body take that representation of it put it on your wallet and look at it for a year and if you still want it after a year put it on your body that might be a little bit long but at the same time it saves you from you know I remember being in tattoo shops and they're like if you're drunk or anything else you know like this whole like list of stipulations and you just read it and thinking like man somebody had to come do that for you to make a reason to say don't

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do this, you know, and me just being glad, like, I'm glad I'm not that person. So. Yeah. You get a lot of inspiration while drinking for sure. You know, it's kind of encouraged. Most of the industry has kind of thrived on that impulsive nature. And, you know, that's, that's the name of the game. You know, it's not for everybody, but like saying no to tattoos has to be for good reason. And I mean, and somebody really wants somebody's name.

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with like kissy lips on their neck you're gonna just say a number that is gonna be like to try to talk them out of it you can just like make a high number yeah if they want to pay it that's that's on them you know i mean i'm not going to tell anybody no i'll i'll suggest something but i i can't really say no to them but in the private studio setting i can be like maybe not then i can have those conversations a little bit more do you have to pay by the letter

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Like if I wanted to map the situation paradox, big kissy lips on my neck, like because his name is so long, would that cost more money? Yeah. So we could take out the balls or something. Yeah. So I was thinking about what you said about how, you know, you're essentially your canvas is a living growing thing as opposed to, you know, paper or something. And I was wondering, is it more difficult to ink a squishy person than a skinny person?

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I think squishy areas are just take a lot more you know sometimes it's frustrating sometimes you could be working on one big piece and you'll get like these nice easy flowing areas and then anything that's like a hinge like this area can be kind of difficult like you know underarms can sometimes be funky you know it just depends on the body like I don't know

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The elasticity of the skin, everybody's so different that like, I don't know, like tattooing somebody's butt, for instance. Like, I was going to clarify for George. He's asking about his butt. No, I'm not. I'm squishy all over. I mean, there's just like a, you need to make sure that the skin is workable as far as like you're doing your part to make that area work. Because obviously people get that stuff tattooed all the time.

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They have their entire bodies tattooed. And some people are really big. Some people are super skinny. I think the going over vital organ areas like the belly, that can be pretty, it just takes more time. Really, you just have to be more conscientious of what you're doing. So that's kind of it. I mean, and I'm sure it depends on the person too, because certain people can take pain a lot better than others or, you know, still longer. Women have, you know, those,

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that kick in for childbirth.

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We're born with this ability to deal with pain a little bit more.

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Definitely a higher threshold, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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It's true.

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But there's also something interesting about it's, I mean, take this with a grain of salt,

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but it's such an intimate thing because you're touching somebody for so long.

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A stranger, I would think, in a lot of times, a lot of cases, it must make for a really interesting job.

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Yeah, you learn a lot about a person, especially around hour three. Of day two? Around hour three of this hurting. Like, you know, because you get used to it after a while, but sometimes you end up... I notice when I get tattooed, I get in a headspace where it's almost like being high, where your inhibitions are a little bit more lowered, and you might start talking about stuff.

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that you normally wouldn't tell a stranger because you've allowed them to hurt you. I don't know what better way to say it. You're stabbing me so I'll tell you my secrets. I've had people also start saying secrets that I really don't want to know about so I tell them like hey I love you but I'm going to probably have to charge you an additional $150 an hour if this turns into a total.

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therapy session about childhood memories.

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And I'm like, ooh.

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You're dialing Crime Stoppers like 20 minutes later.

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Yeah, I'm like, no.

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I don't want to know where the bodies are buried.

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Yeah, I've heard, I definitely get confessions for things that I never knew I would even hear from that person.

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It's very interesting.

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But I keep it all here.

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I don't tell people.

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I don't like to tell people all the deep, dark secrets or anything.

00:35:05.050 --> 00:35:09.060
Well, I want to go back to music a little bit and talk about some of your solo stuff.

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Because I didn't know much about it.

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And now I've listened to it.

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I really like it a lot.

00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:20.720
So in addition to Lorde Dying, you do have other metal projects like your one woman band Grigax.

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And you released an album called Life Eater.

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And I thought it was really great, hypnotic, occult doom sludge.

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And I was just wondering, you know, why you decided to write and record that kind of a record and how it came about. So I was really learning a lot from I've had a lot of friends of mine who are like sound engineer folks. And I thought, you know, instead of like trying to get other people to do this with me to write this stuff, I would just work on it over time.

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And I mean, this started in the MySpace days, like probably around like 2006 or seven. I got a, ooh, I forget what that thing is called. It's like a little four track digital recorder that you can mix down. It's funny. I can't recall what it's called. It was red. Is it a focus? Is it by line six? Oh, line six, maybe? Yeah. No, I, it'll have to come to me later, but it was this just little digital recorder.

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I got from Craigslist, I think. And I started even just using the internal mic. I mean, it's very digital sounding originally. And it was just me doing acoustic stuff. And then I started looping or not looping, but like playing over top of what I had there. And then I realized, oh, wow, I can actually like do a lot to make these accompaniments and really influenced by black metal to like all the music engineer folks that I was friends with.

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were super into black metal and noise metal. And so if they were doing it, I figured like, why not? I could do this too. And so I just kind of took those opportunities to, you know, take my, I would, you know, be tired and maybe drunk and three in the morning, just start coming up with ideas and then layering and layering. And by, you know, sun up, I'd have like a song. And yeah, it took a long time.

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a lot of years just to even make that one that came out that was like 2015 I think that or 16 I think it actually came out but right yeah we're gonna do more with it Alyssa uh it's odd I uh was I've been toying around with the piano again and I've had a few folks reach out and be like yo you should do like a piano album and like yeah piano definitely is part of a possible thing

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I would love to continue doing it for sure. I've thought about it. I wanted to bring it back. I think it's an appropriate time for me. I feel like, you know, was it 2000? Oh my God. It's 2024. So 2017 life eater came out. Right. 2017 is when it came out. So yeah, it's been that long. I think it's kind of overdue. Yeah. Jumped in and did the math there, by the way. Sorry about that. Seven years. That sounds like. Yeah. I got it. Right.

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Yeah.

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But I also read that it was named after like a kid that you went to high school with.

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Oh, man. Yeah.

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Who like murdered his 40 year old girlfriend with an axe on Halloween.

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That's nuts.

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That's straight out of a horror film.

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It's a real story, too.

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My mom called me.

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I was like, I guess it was like 2008 when that happened.

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She called me and said, Hey, do you remember Adam Grigas? And I just was an asshole. I'll just be honest. I was a total asshole. And I was playing rock band with my friend and I couldn't, and it was like people we knew back home and I had to name my band. So I named it Grigax. I was like, Oh, that's so distasteful, but it's real. It was a real thing that happened.

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It's like naming your band Bundy or Gacy or

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Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, like

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it just it's really dark, but the music is really dark too. I mean, it's not like, you know

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at all. No way. Yeah, it's very personal to be real. Yeah, so

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it's it has a dark it has a real sense of darkness to it that I

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don't necessarily think I want to get into. But yeah, there's it's like

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depressive black muddle, which is something that I was really influenced by, of course, in that time, for sure.

00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:10.340
Well, then you've also in 2020, you released several solo home recorded covers of songs like The Day I Tried to Live by Song Garden as a tribute to those lost during COVID-19.

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So can you talk about what those songs mean to you and why you decided to record those particular tracks?

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Yeah, all of them were like a dedication to anybody who was lost at the time. I mean, I did Townes Van Zandt's Lungs, Teardrop from Massive Attack. That's a great song, by the way. Yeah. I love that album. I love Mezzanine. Yeah. I found I had a Casio keyboard that actually had a trip hop, what they call the trip hop beat. And it actually happened to be pretty much. Yeah, that was the beat that it was.

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I was like yeah I'm gonna use that and so there was that and then I think Cortez the Killer by Neil Young. Towns fans and Neil Young I love it when people pull well you're obviously probably not exclusively metal in your expression but that's great it's just funny to hear you drop Towns fans next and I really like him. And they're really cool covers too so people should check them out. Oh yeah I did see the Cortez the Killer thing and you did that with Matt I think.

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Yeah, Pike did some solos on it, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. It was a nice little gesture that we could do during that time. And that one in particular, like, did very well. I mean, had his name in there. I'm sure they, like, typed his name or something, and then all of a sudden, like, that came up. But a lot of people like that song, and a lot of people in the metal don't like that song. Like, it's not a crossover metal song by any means, but I know a lot of people. I think your eyebrows went up a little bit.

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John when she said Cortez the killer didn't he yeah I big you know young fan growing up me too and yeah especially his acoustic stuff more than anything else just because with him I mean I like all of it I've seen him a few times he's always been cool yeah he's great yeah I love Neil Young I like the some of the I'm not a huge singer songwriter like you know I'm not a what's that one I'm not a James Taylor person or anything but you know the more gritty um the more

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real folks like outlaw country i love all those outlaw country is awesome yeah sure although i do like gordon lightfoot

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even though he's singer songwriter but there's just something about the songs he wrote and his lyrics and

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i'm not a big lyric guy but the dude he he bottled it pretty well i thought so yeah so there's a lot of cool

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potential in obviously like if it sounds really good on an acoustic guitar it's going to sound amazing when

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it's amplified and i've always felt that way about writing anything so majority of the shit i've done is probably on acoustic guitar first or banjo i like to use the banjo a lot for writing you know using those drone strings yeah it's probably where i get a lot more of my ideas from is there yeah the reverse can work too i there was some guy for a while and i think he did the whole welcome to hell album on an acoustic guitar

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And it was so fucking good. It was only on YouTube. I don't know if it ever got released anywhere, but hearing In League With Satan and this really weird old Robert Johnson way he did it was fucking... There's so many weird moods in some of those things that... Well, I mean, Robert Johnson might have been In League With Satan. Well, that was a bad example because I didn't really sound like Robert Johnson. The whole Crossroads thing. Crossroads In League With Satan.

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We need to hire Alyssa to do a Metal Heads podcast theme on banjo. That'd be pretty great. Yeah, it would be cool. Do you feel like a banjo or an actual banjo? It's a banjo. I actually just got it. Well, I didn't just get it, but I got it re-intonated and fixed up because it was kind of on the worn side of things over the past. I've had that thing for nine years or so, and I finally got it intonated.

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like a year. So it sounds better now. One of my favorite cartoons I ever saw in the New Yorker magazine was there's this recording engineer behind a pane of glass and inside the recording studio is a band and they're all playing except for the banjo player which is he's underneath a glass case with his arms tied behind his back and there's like all this heavy shit on the glass case and the producer through the window is saying nah I'm still getting way too much banjo. Yeah. It does.

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It stands out pretty well. Yeah. So I try to bury it in my recordings if I ever use it as like a little undertone. But I don't know. I like to feature it. It's really good. It's a great instrument. I love it. Nothing wrong with that. Awesome. Yeah, it's like a national guitar. You know, I mean, it really just produces when you're standing in front of one, the amount of sound it puts out is amazing. Like whoever designed those things acoustically. It's almost like an electric instrument without electricity. It's kind of wild. You mentioned band.

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because I just was watching, I don't know how this came up last night, but I was watching Roy Clark videos. If anyone remembers Roy Clark from Hee Haw, he's actually a really good guitar player, but I remember when I was a kid playing banjo. So. So that, okay, I'm going to go down a weird thing. I spent last night watching Jerry, what's his name videos? The guy from Smoking the Bandit. Jerry. He's such a fucking good guitar player. Reed? Jerry Reed. Yeah. Jerry Reed. I like his horse.

00:45:46.780 --> 00:45:47.780
He was, yeah.

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I think we need to start a banjo cast.

00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:51.260
Yeah, man.

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I think that's clear.

00:45:53.300 --> 00:45:58.900
Well, I know we have limited time with Alyssa, so maybe we go into the three albums question.

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Have you prepared your three albums, Alyssa?

00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.480
That was a, yeah, I had some toss-ups.

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It was kind of hard.

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I looked across to my partner.

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I was like, so would this be more me or would this be more?

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He's like, I don't know.

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I should always come with an apology first. Could you tell us the deal? We always get great answers to it, though. So the question is, what three albums would help people understand you better, Alyssa, as a person, and why? And in situations like that, there's no wrong answer because it's you. Yeah. I think one that really stood out the most probably to me was the Jesus Lizard Goat. That album, for sure. Nice. Says a lot about

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I came from musically.

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I had mentioned my old band.

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I'm going to meet friends of mine who are on tour right now at Hoculey.

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My old band who toured with them, all original members we had done,

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there was like a cover show in Philadelphia,

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and we just happened to do the Jesus Lizard.

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And I was playing bass for that one.

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And yeah, we played the entire, most of the album of Goat.

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Nice.

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Yeah.

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And it was

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whoo.

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We had a really amazing

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person.

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Our friend Andrew North

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did the lead vocals.

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He just tore his shirt off

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and started harassing everybody.

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We did exactly

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the exact same thing

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that if you were

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at a Jesus Lizard show

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like but you know

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obviously David Yow

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was very

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his own person

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but we tried

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and I think it came out

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pretty good.

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And it's just one of those bands

00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.040
that really influenced my sound

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and it really solidified my love of Steve Albini.

00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:53.160
You know?

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Yeah.

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It brought me down a rabbit hole

00:47:56.540 --> 00:47:59.940
of this whole other genre of music

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that happened in the 90s

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that maybe I was a little too young for at the time.

00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:08.500
But yeah, Jesus Lizard Goat is one of those.

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The second one,

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I would say it's probably Converge's Jane Doe. Start to finish that album is incredible. I was a huge fan of Converge from like 1998 on. So like the Napster days, that's how I found Converge was I downloaded some guy's whole discography of whatever he had, like, you know, how you used to be able to just find the file and just sit hard. Yeah, I mean,

00:48:41.620 --> 00:49:11.600
I love Napster. It was so great. Before Lars destroyed it. Yeah. It really revolutionized how the unknown band or like lesser known bands got discovered a lot easier that way. It was bad for the big people, but it was actually kind of great. The other people who like really needed more exposure. So Converge to me was that. And I had a, I forget what the album that had Color Me Blood

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I bet on it but my god that was like my favorite song that I had but like when Jane Doe came out and it was a carrying killing it might that may have been the album that was on but Jane Doe from start to finish I used to drive up to the Lehigh Valley and visit an old friend of mine Arthur Rizek now we know Arthur yeah everybody is Arthur have you met him yeah we had him on the cast yeah okay that's a really old friend of mine that was one of my music producers

00:49:41.620 --> 00:50:10.660
I was talking about. Yeah. So I love him. And I used to go up there, go to shows, a place called Jeff the Pigeon. But on the way, I would just be screaming whatever the gobbledygook that Jacob Bannon was screaming. And yeah, it was a huge influence on how I could hear different time signatures, speeding up, slowing down, intensity, like just, it was really formative.

00:50:11.080 --> 00:50:39.900
That's a four-minute album. You must have run into Kurt Ballou at some point since you're kind of, you know, ensconced in the industry. Like, he produces so much stuff now and stuff. Have you ever run into him or any of the other guys? Oh, I mean, you know, I just recorded at God City Studios for two and a half weeks. So there you go. I've interviewed him. I was also there for Electric Messiah when they were drum tracking. Oh, okay. Yeah, okay. That makes sense. Yeah.

00:50:39.920 --> 00:51:09.480
Yeah, that was like my first run-in with Kurt Ballou myself. And then, you know, did a little like cute interview in the basement of the Roseland on top of a laundry, the laundry set up in there. I forgot he did Electric Massey. Did he do the new one? The new? Yeah, he did. I thought he did. Okay, I guess. All right. Yep. Cometh the Storm is that one. Yeah. Yeah, it's got a cool cover. It looks good. Yeah.

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Yeah, Eric Roper did a beautiful job as usual. I love Eric Roper. Have you heard it all the way through yet? I've actually only heard, so don't get too jealous, but I was definitely getting, like, the tracks as they were going, but he didn't send me every one of them. I got the one that everybody's heard, the brand new one. I forgot about it, but I heard that probably over a year ago. Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense.

00:51:40.539 --> 00:51:42.880
I assume he asks your opinion too

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he's like yo

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this thing batters and I'm like yes

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agreed

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fucking batters

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it does

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it's funny I have like a whole thing on my

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iPad of like files he sent

00:51:59.700 --> 00:52:01.360
me of just like demos

00:52:01.520 --> 00:52:03.580
of them working together and I'm just like

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this is

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like I people are gonna

00:52:07.460 --> 00:52:36.740
shit their pants listening to this. It's going to be so good. And it was just in the demo form. So yeah. Yeah. Well, I love that you picked Converge for the second one because I'm a big fan of that band, especially You Fail Me is probably my favorite record. I love that album too. I love it. Yeah. Jane Doe is the one that you would definitely like, you know, if you want to know more about me, it's that. What's the third one? Oh, this was the first one I picked.

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It was a Leviathan's side project. That self-titled album is incredible. I just re-listened to it today and I was just like, I zoned out. I zoned out every time I listened to that album. And you could probably see where my influence is from Lurker of Chalice in Grigax. Yes. You know, the self-produced, but like, you know, no exact

00:53:09.720 --> 00:53:37.420
and it's about really dark shit it has a very similar feel to yeah i just relate to that and it really before i even moved to the pacific northwest i remember coming out and i was driving through northern california in like december time so it was really super dark super gloomy through the like you know mountains and fog and all that and i was listening to lurker chalice and i was like this is what it sounds like

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is 100% what this sounds like. And I had fell in love even more with that album then. Yeah. Yeah. I love it when an album fits the environment and it's not necessarily something you intended to do, but it just works. Yeah. I had no idea. Like, but it figures he's from, you know, he wrote that when he was in San Francisco and I didn't really understand that. I'd never been out there to, but then I heard it and I felt it.

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And I saw it and then I felt it. Yeah. So it made sense. That's great. And those are all three completely unique albums that we've had on this cast for that question. So that's pretty cool. All right. So we go on to the next thing, George. I have one quick question. One last one. Your friends in the band, Ed Hockley, do they all wear really tight shirts? If you're a football fan, you know who Ed Hockley is. Yeah. I was wondering, isn't that the referee? Yeah. Yes.

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Yeah, they're Stillers fans. They're a bunch of yins. Oh, no. Being from D.C., I have issues with Pittsburgh teams. So are you saying that if they're from Pittsburgh, they think the real Ed Hockley is a Jagoff then? I don't know. For those who... They named their band after him. Yeah. Well, no, I mean, if you're from Pittsburgh, you know, well, you know what I'm talking about.

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the word jag off it's just yeah it's just their way of calling someone like a jerk basically oh yeah no jag off yeah i love it it's great because everyone thinks it's something else that you're saying like no this is jag off completely different there has to be a band called that too i'm sure i didn't even know there was a difference so thank you for clarifying that george and george and will have been george and will have been to this place close to my house called the casual pint and the owner is from pittsburgh so he's a big stealer's

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But he has, I don't know if you guys notice it, or you will, because you've been there more than George, he's got like a sign on the wall in the back where the merch is, and it's all Pittsburghese, and Jagoff is on there, and I just lost it when I saw that one day. I don't think I've noticed that. I don't know if he still has it up, but he had it up for a while. Just a little placard about this big, and all this Pittsburghese on it. I'll meet you there at the recycling center. Oh yeah, I put in a double this weekend. I love Pittsburgh, but I hate their teams.

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Yeah. Not a fan of the Penguins. No. Particularly the Penguins. The Steelers, I liked when I was a kid. But now I'm not as much of a fan. Pirates are okay. I don't care about Pirates. What about the Pirates? Pirates are all right. I've always liked the Pirates. Great stadium. Oh, yeah. I love it. I do have one quick question about the Philly area. Did you ever get to the Trocadero when they were still doing metal shows? Yeah. I actually saw Saviors open for Doom Riders upstairs.

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at the truck. Oh, are they upstairs? I love team riders. Oh, man. Yeah, and it's Sunny from Neckrot was in Saviors at the time, I do believe. So it's like the first time I ever saw Sunny. Just so good. I love that. That was years ago. Could you still smoke in the truck at that point? You ever been upstairs where you could still smoke in there in that back bar? Probably. It was just horrible.

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a pit in there. Yeah, but I'm a smoker, so I'm like totally into that. Yeah, see, it just jacks me up. I didn't have to go outside. Yeah, I didn't have to go outside. That's fine. Yeah. Related to the new NeckRot is getting ready to come out, by the way. Yeah. Do we have that by any chance? We do. We do. It's in the box. It's in the box. ROTB? I gotta listen. Did you listen to it well? We've had it for a while, actually. Have we?

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Yeah, I just, I had some time today because it was raining here. So I went through the box and downloaded a whole bunch of stuff and fixed up one of my computer audio file account players. And I did not get a chance to listen to it, but I do have it now. It could. Okay. Well, you fixing up your music, people? No, actually iTunes. Oh God. Yeah. Well, remember when we'll talk about offline. I know. So my wife called there a minute ago. What's direction where we're walking in here?

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I thought it kind of hurt in the background or

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I mean you know we always try to wrap up the interview

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on the next thing but it always leads to

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other questions no I just had to ask

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great question

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I derailed us on that so

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I just want to ask Alyssa about her name because it looks

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so French to me

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oh god

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is it there is a story

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behind that we got to hear it now

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interested I'm not French

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at all no

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So my family came over as a bunch of Italian immigrants. And my grandfather marries. My grandma wanted a boutique for hair, right? And they were in Flatbush, Brooklyn. And it was like, you know, Irish didn't really love the Italians necessarily at the time. You know, it was like a little, you know, problematic. So she felt like, okay, well, I'm going to dye my hair blonde.

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And I'm going to pretend I'm French now. And we're going to take the I off the last name and we're going to put an E there. And she was very forceful. She was a very interesting lady. So we went from being like Sicilian, Italian to French overnight. I'm like second generation Sicilian. My last name wouldn't tell it to you, but Nebraska. We're from Sicily. Yeah. That's a lot like my name. I don't know if I,

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I've ever told that story on the show before. But Nassau is a made up. Yeah. My last name's Nassau. And Nassau with two S's. Mine only has one. It means nose in Italian. And I am a quarter Italian because my grandfather's from there. But my grandfather came from Indonesia and they don't have last names over there. So when he was going to marry my grandmother, she's like, I have to take a last name. That's what we do over here. What was your father's name? And my grandfather's father's name was Nassau.

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But my grandmother didn't want to be named after the Space Center, so she changed the age. Oh, and that's how I got my name. That's wild. I can see that. But it'd be awesome, though, if it was NASA, wouldn't it? It would be. It would be so cool. It's cool either way, but it'd be like, yeah, I'm part of that. My middle name is Antonio. My middle name is Antonio. I'm named after my two grandfathers. But I'm kind of spinning in circles here how thoroughly French that looks, having just changed one letter from IIT.

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It's actually a really common last name in Italy. It's a super common last name. There's actually a composer named John Masseri with an I. Okay. And like it's the only, I mean, there's like a handful in the U.S., but then you go over to Italy and it's like the phone book is just like pages and pages. It's like Carpenter over there, you know? As it stands now, it could only be more French if you changed it to French. I mean, that's like the most French last name I've ever seen in my life. Hey, you can make,

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You can make George French by adding an S. I become George. George. That's a good story, though. That's a good origin story. I like that. Nice. Right. All right. So we are going to flip the script around a little bit today and do things in a different order. Tell me if I get it wrong. I think we're going to do what we're listening to next.

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What a relationship to home. What a relationship to home. What a relationship to home. What a relationship to home. We are. Good job. So, Alyssa, what have you been listening to lately? I am a creature of habit. I usually always revert back to listening to, like, Cult of Luna.

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Yeah, I usually put that on for my clients, especially to get them through the sessions. They kind of just zone out listening to it. It's really cool. I re-listened to Neurosis, Times of Grace recently. That great album. Which I haven't listened to in a long time, but it's, yeah, that one hits hard. So lots of post-metal for you. Yeah, I kind of, but it's,

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It's like a mood setter for my clientele, you know, it kind of helps them get through like it's just it's soft, but it's hits and like it's got moments. It just gets them through the ups and downs just like how they like they can hear the pain in their voice. So I'm a big post-metal guy. So yeah, I love it. Yeah. I mean, it's an album. Everyone, even if you don't like metal, should listen to. They just don't know that they need to hear it yet. So it's pretty amazing. Like, I guess something else.

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I've been listening to,

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it makes me,

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geez,

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I can't remember.

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Oh,

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I listened to so much stuff and I just forget all of a sudden.

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I always listen to nine inch nails out of default.

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Like it just is a secondhand thing for me.

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And just to put on nine inch nails.

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And then it like kind of starts auto playing into like more of that

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goth rock stuff that I love.

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Do you have a place you start with nine inch nails or just random?

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The downward spiral.

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I know it's like the,

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or like the fragile because it's like a two-parter.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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So like I zone out a lot when I'm working.

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I don't really like, and also I listened to a ton of like last podcasts on the left.

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Yeah.

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That's a thing.

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They just, yeah, they just had one about, nevermind.

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They just had a recent podcast that really hit home for me.

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And I was like, oh my God, I do not need to listen to this.

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I know everything about this subject. I don't want to hear any more about it. But yeah, you can figure that out on your own by looking up through most recent ones. What kind of gothic stuff do you like? Well... Do you like My Dying Bride? I do. My Dying Bride is more like Funeral Doom, right? Yeah, that's gothic doom. Yeah, okay. This is where I draw the line sometimes.

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When you start getting into the synths and things like that, I don't know. I really haven't given My Dying Bride that much. I've seen him live at Maryland Death Fest, and I've liked what I saw, but I'm not going to go out of my way to listen to it, I guess. But yeah, the more symphonic, goth, you know, getting into the... Emperor is as far as I will go in that realm.

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Like the metal goth synth stuff. Like I, it scares me so far than that. Cause it just starts getting a little too cheesy for me. I guess is the right. I like the, not, I guess like sisters of mercy. There you go. That's what I was trying to say. George loves sisters of mercy. Yeah. I don't get a lot of people that like the goth, the classic goth rock stuff. So I was just curious. Yeah. I like the goth rock stuff. I like anything. Cause we have a,

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here called Coffin Club. And I like to go, like, just hide in my little goth corner and, like, dance over there and, like, not pay attention to anybody else. And, like, yeah, it's fun, like, just having that more of, like, industrial-ish. Yeah. Like, I enjoy the more, like, brutal but rock. Oh, the other one, the Fields of Elysium.

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That's a great goth rock band. Amazing. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. And Lisa Gerard too. And like Dead Can Dance. I call them more like world music, but they're more. They are. Dead Can Dance is awesome. There's a new band that I heard. I was going to tell George about this and I forgot. Oh, they're called, this came to me, Modern Witchcraft. Have you heard that band, George? Don't know. Unless you might want to check that out too. They're like,

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They're more like goth rock with a mix of metal in it. I like it. George is more into that stuff than I am, but it's a new album. It's a new album this year. Man, I love Dank and Dance. When they did the reunion tour, oof, I feel the battle. Yeah, my tickets got canceled because it was, that's when, like, the reunion show, and I had the chance to do it, but I needed the money at the time, so I couldn't go see them. Actually, no, no, I forgot. I had to record an album. That's what happened.

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They rescheduled it. Damn you, Lord Dying. Yeah, well, you know. Or maybe I had to go on tour or something. I knew it was something Lord Dying related that I was like, all right, I guess I'm not seeing Dead Can Dance. It's a good trade-off, Alyssa. Yeah, no, I'm not complaining. The only reason why I didn't see them. So yeah, I love that band. All right, Marcus, what are you listening to? All right, yeah. First one up for me is Praise the Play.

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"Supporting in

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I don't know. You know, sometimes they put one on one format like CD or something else. But yeah, I stumbled upon this record just because of that label. I found them, I don't know, a couple months ago. And so I'm kind of watching to see what they put out. And this one grabbed me. It's they play this dark ambient ritualistic music that breaks into black and noise metal. So it's kind of like a phantom mist creeping through a forest.

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And then there's something savage lurking behind it, waiting for the right time to emerge and attack you. That's really good. So if you like ambient music and you like black metal, great. Black Birch, which is a self-titled record, it's an independent release. This is a duo from Sweden and they play a blistering atmospheric black metal with some really great crust and melodic post-metal moments woven into the music.

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It was kind of a surprise for me because the band contacted me on Instagram. I get a lot of messages on Instagram about records, but I listen to most of them just because I want to know. You never know if you're going to find something you really like. And I quite like this one. It came out in 2023, but instead of just dropping the complete album, the band released one track every month in 2023. And I just really like the energy on that LP. The vocals are vicious.

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And the drumming is a freaking thunder beast on there. Every song is pretty good. So I think Black Birch is definitely a band to watch going forward. Another band with Black in the name, Black Pyre, Fall of the Northern Kingdom. This is an independent release. It's another album from 2023, but I just found out about it and I really like it. They play like a frosty,

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of black metal with a medieval bent to it. So there's a little bit of doom in there as well. The notes on Bandcamp say that the album explores ancient and somewhat lost Celtic history of Britain and draws on the influence of classic demonology, which, you know, I like that kind of stuff. It's right up my alley. Really good album. Then I also have Leaving, Liminal on Transylvanian recordings.

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I'm a little bit on the fence about whether to classify this as metal, but I do love it. It's dark, moody. I would say it's doom-gazy sludge, but it features members from Graves at Sea, Lycus, and Funerary, and those are all bands I love, and I do really like this one as well. I gotta spin it some more to see if it would qualify for like a list when we do mid-year or year-end.

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And then the final one on my list here is Heka Tunkir Nightmare Utopia on total dissonance worship records. It's a pretty intense amalgam of creatively mixed dissonant black metal with sludge, doom, and death. So the black and death parts are harrowing, they're crushing, and then the doom atmosphere on here, it's just, it's just,

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some of the most sinister stuff I've heard this year. But what's really interesting to me about this record is that they have these different styles, but they're very clearly delineated in the songs. But they feed into each other really well. And that doesn't seem like an easy trick to pull off. But Hecatung here accomplishes that. So I also really love the cover art for this record. So people listening to it, you should check out the cover art because

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It's wild. Cool. That's what I got. Alrighty, Matt. Situational paradox. Unmute. Bloody hell. Yesterday we got the new album from Mastiff to Precipice, which I think we've had in the box for a little bit. I wrote it as sludge metal for sludge metal lovers. That is true, but they're also like, there's definitely a pretty big hardcore influence in there, which for a child of hardcore and post-hardcore is super fun.

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The Apophetic Wilderness drops on March 29th. There's a track out. I wrote Black and Death Metal with a really good sounding low end and quite a punch. Excited to hear the full thing. Apparition, Mark's on, I think he put that in the box this week. Listen to that, Dirty Death with a subtle yet piercing eeriness to it. Super fun to listen to. The album is called Mind Burns Alive by Paul Bear.

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I don't know what the actual track was that we got this week, but it is. Hold on. Where the light fades. Okay. Thank you. I feel like I remember like Paul Bear's first album was, you know, highly recommended to me and it was really good. And I think the second album, the followup was similar to that. And then they've slowly kind of just gotten away from some of that, but I still think it sounds really good. I mean, to me, Mind Burns Alive will probably be, you know, what the segue of the Deftones was into like,

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So I'm excited to hear more of that. Also in our box is Funeral Sanctum by Witch Vomit, which is on 20 Buck Spin coming out sometime in April. Kind of straightforward death metal, but really fun to listen to. Also in our box is the new Dune album, Voidkind. Really good. And then this week we got a new track from Ulcerate. The album is called Cutting the Throat of God, which I mean, son of a bitch. Like how many years does it take to think up of that stuff?

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I've also listened to just a shitload of carcass. Sounds like a goat horse song, honestly. Honestly, it does. Yeah, that's a great comparison, George. But for me also, just a ton of carcass, which should come as no surprise. Does not. No. All right, John. All right, I'll do my best here. I'm coughing a lot off air, so excuse me. So the first two may come up in our reformatted episode here. I don't want to break any news, but Judas Priest,

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It's Invisible Shield. That might come up later. The new Slime Lord, which is, I guess, their debut. Ky Tridio, Mycosis, Relinquished. We'll talk about that at some point. So I won't say much about it now. New one from Hamforth. I'm not going to be able to even remotely pronounce the album name, so I'll say what the English translation is. It's But God's Hand is Strong. If you're familiar with the band, they're a doom band from the Faroe Islands. It's their third album.

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They're kind of a doom metal, some death doom. Features the singer John Aldara, who's from Barren Earth and also Yotin. Markasson and I are Yotin fans. Matt, you mentioned Apparition, Disgrace, Emanations from a Tranquil State, which Markasson pointed out that we should check out because he liked it so much and it's good. I like it. I hadn't listened to any of their stuff and I spun it and I dig it. Nice. And a similar album to that is Civilization.

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Maze Envy, which just came out on 20 Buckspin, which is their second album. Similar kind of death doom. Both bands from Los Angeles. For a second, I thought that some group of guys just released two albums. But it's cool. It's similar, but slightly different. They both have these proggy elements to them, but the Sivris has this kind of ominous, ethereal feel to them in the background with some of the, I don't know if they're using synths or keyboards or what, and they've

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I don't know if they're real strings violin on the opening track and then a few other tracks or if they're using a patch on that but it's cool and then the final album is something that George put in the box that I was very happy to see and I have not stopped spinning this album since we got it and that is the soon to be released album from Exist hijacking the zeitgeist Exist is a prog death metal band featuring Max Phelps

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who, if you know Death to All, which is the tribute band for Death, he's also the second guitarist in Cynic. And then Alex Weber, who's now currently the bass player for Obscura on Tour. So I've been spinning that a ton. I love that. I actually messaged John about it because I really like this Exist. The last one I liked, but this one I really like. Yeah, so I'll save some of my comments about that until when it comes out, because there's some interesting things that I read.

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that Max said about the album, but it comes out on April 12th, which is the first day of Decibel. Might be somewhere in Philadelphia, drinking beers. I don't want to name any places, monks, maybe, but yeah, that's it. Just those are all current recent ones the last day or two. There's just so much stuff has come out since the last time we were on. I just figured I'd stick to the most recent stuff. So cool. Well, I'll be brief. The new midnight album, Hellish Expectations. It's really good.

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I think it's a little bit better than the last one and I'm really excited to see them at Decimal because they put on a hell of a show if you guys have not seen Midnight Live yet. The next two are from my metal muse. He sent these to me. Messiah is the name of the band, Swiss death metal band. Christos Haibus. Haiku, Haikuparas? I don't know how you pronounce that. Haiku bus. Yeah, Haiku bus.

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I think you butcher us that name. English translation will. Yeah. The next one is also from Justin. The Sinistrum. The name of the album is Infernal Dawn. These guys are from Elizabethtown, Kentucky, and I wish I would have known about these guys because I was in Elizabethtown for a week. Last summer, my daughter Evelyn had a baseball tournament in Elizabethtown, and I was like, I should try to look these guys up.

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because it's a small town outside Louisville. So it's pretty awesome death metal. I'm digging the new X-Forter album. Again, more Latin. Defectum. No idea what it means in Latin. Something like optimal defecation, maybe. Probably, yeah. Yeah. The mold defecation. I like that. You just called it that. That's a new grindcore band. I like this X-Forter album. I haven't listened to it a ton, but I already like it a lot more than the last one.

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The Last Ex-Horder album was just straight out southern metal, kind of a lot more down, where their roots were way more punk thrash. So this one was great. Obviously, The New Judas Priest, I really like This New Judas Priest. It's amazing that these guys, at their age and their 70s, are putting out something this good. I mean, this is up there for me for painkiller. It's good. And then reading The New Desperable Magazine,

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I just recently took a trip to Texas and New Mexico. Sorry, Jay, didn't have time to try and make it to your neck of the woods. Everything out here is six hours away from everything else. Literally, I spent hours and hours driving every day. I think I drove at least four or five hours every single day I was there. Jay retired to the desert, Alyssa, in the middle of nowhere. I don't blame him.

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I'm basically down in the lower right-hand corner of Arizona. I'm about 40 miles from the Mexican border and five miles from New Mexico. So a DSI deep dive. And that's it. Hey, real quick. Isn't Pat O'Brien the new guitar player in X-Hard? He was, I think, I don't know if he's a new guitar player, but I heard he was featured on some of the tracks. Okay. So I don't know if it's a full-time thing, but I guess he's not in jail. A presence. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I read that match. It's a plus. You remind me, I just read that article that Pete, whoever wrote up about that. Yeah, I wonder what that guy's doing. I mean, obviously. Yeah, hopefully a little bit better. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. He kind of lost it there, but he must have got a little touch and go. Yeah. I just call that a Tuesday. He hasn't been invited back to cannibal corpse. So I'll keep it brief too. And this is the honest truth. I try not to.

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to our guests, but I've listened to the Lord Dying record a bunch of times this week, not just to get ready for the episode, but that's a really positively great fucking record. So good for you. I'm positive. That's going to be on my year end list. Let's do this ass kisser. Well, I can't help it, dude. Hey, Alyssa, you are by far the best guest our podcast has ever had. Jay says that to everyone. I'm told I say that to everyone. I'm like,

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Really? Is it because I'm quiet? Actually, I couldn't resist saying that. Sorry. It's fine. Don't worry about it. Jay says that every episode. Hey, I got over that habit. Yeah. And then the Judas Priest record sent me into a Judas Priest spiral that's been hard to get out of, which is to say, you know, digging up the old catalog and everything. And I'm going to just stand next to Will and say, I think this is every bit as good as Painkiller, maybe,

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I was talking to John BT about it the other day and he was like, I'm going to bed every night. I can't get these fucking songs out of my head, you know, and the more I listen to it, the more Rob sounds, Rob, you know, Bruce lost a step. Dio lost a step to be blunt. Rob hadn't lost a fucking step. Maybe in that super high vocals, you know, but even there, he's, he sounds better on this one. I think they have made successfully better records since Richie joined. I thought. Was it you that was saying that,

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There was an area on the album where he sounded like Ozzy. Yeah, it's on the stage. It's like the bonus track. Yeah. Yeah, I heard that today and I was like, oh yeah, he does sound like Ozzy. Yeah. To the point where I was like, is this Ozzy? Also, just I've been following their tour a little bit and they pulled out Sword of Damocles, which is the best song on Redeemer of Souls. So it was cool that they were doing that. Don't drop songs. We're going to see them soon. Huh? Don't drop any song titles. Okay. Pretty rune like half the set for myself. Okay.

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I can tell you this, the one I just named hasn't been every night, and they have been mixing it up. I've already seen a couple and I'm pissed. Because I really wanted to see those songs. I'm like, yeah. George knows what I'm talking about. When they played Saints in Hell for the first time, and I lost my shit in D.C., I wanted to lose my shit in D.C. again. I, on the other hand, am going to look up the set list so I don't have to worry about it. I wanted to be like a Metal Heads podcast special. John loses his shit in D.C.

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Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, but I want to be there for it. Alyssa, you're going to go see priest. If they're coming to Portland and yes, I saw them last time they were here with Queensryche and yeah, we had a whole crew. It was basically everybody in Pike versus the automatons Portland. We all went and I was like, we got to get there to see Queensryche. And they're like, okay. Absolutely. It was a semi home show too.

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for them almost you know playing yeah you know in oregon i saw them in oregon too and the crowd was insane for queens right there so that was cool oh yeah yeah no i love like i'll have to say portland has like a rate like a rock radio station and every once in a while i'll have the like the radio on and they'll actually play operation mind crime on the radio and i'm like whoa this is so awesome so yeah it's great to see them but like rob halford's voice

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is just unbelievable. I would do it now, but I don't want to do it. Do it. I can't. He's so much better than I am. He doesn't have to fake it. It just comes out. He just sings like that the whole time. That's with an 80-pound jacket on during the show. He's all hunched over because he can't lift his body up.

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I mean, I know what the fuck is this? I don't know how he does it, but yeah. Anyway, sorry, Jay. That was actually the sum total of my listing. In truth, I spent a lot of time on the Lord dying and went down a Judas priest rabbit hole this week. All right. I got, I got a short list exist. Hijacking the Zeitgeist, Baltimore. Don't need to say any more about that one. The next three, nobody's mentioned. So I'll talk about them. The new and supposedly final ministry album, Hopium for the masses.

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I kind of lost track of them for a while.

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You know, I was more of an early to mid fan.

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Somewhere after Filth Pig, I was like, eh, I didn't really listen to them for a while.

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But this one wasn't so bad.

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I kind of dug it.

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Goddamn White Trash.

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Yeah.

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Or BDM.

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Next, The Vision Bleak and their seventh album, Weird Tales.

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They're a German Gothic rock metal band.

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This one's not out for another couple of weeks, but the promo is super cool.

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Probably not anything that anybody but me on this podcast would like.

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And lastly, I just threw this in here to fill out my list, but I do like it, is the Zach Sabbath, Doomed Forever, Forever Doomed, Zach doing Sabbath covers. Nice. Yeah, like one of my favorite Sabbath songs is Solitude off of Masters of Reality. And he does a really nice version of that. Is it still the kind of jazzy thing? No, it's like piano. It's piano.

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I was like,

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what the,

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nice.

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It's way different,

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but way cool.

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So cool.

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Nice.

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All right,

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let's do the top five then.

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This time,

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I'm Priest.

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Yeah, you might have heard of a band called Judas Priest.

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And to partially celebrate the release of the new album, we are going to do the top five Judas Priest album covers. Alyssa, in case you don't know how we do this, it's a round robin kind of thing. Everybody gives their five, everybody gives their four, and we work our way down to our number ones. So I'm going to ask you for your number five Judas Priest album cover. Just because it's so ridiculous. I mean, it's not my favorite artwork, but I think it's

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It's so outrageous. Juggulator. Okay. It's so vicious. It is. It's all. Yeah. I like that album too. Yeah. I mean, the album artwork is vicious. It's awesome. Yeah. That's my number five. That album doesn't get a lot of love because it's Ripper. That's a good album though. I like it. It's pretty good actually. Bloodstained is a cool tune.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love that cover. It might come up again. So you're not going to be on an island. Well, my only issue is they changed the logo. Yeah. That's my only issue. Just because I'm a creature habit when it comes to that stuff. Well, that's true. Cause that's the, but that logo that they do on that album is the only time they did that version of that logo. I thought they did it for demolition too. Didn't they? I don't know if it's the same. And I thought the two live albums, but yeah, well, we could check later.

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Yeah. All right, Marcus, what's your number five? My number five is Sin After Sin from 1977. Art by, I got the artist because I respect artists. Rustow, I can't even say this. I'm going to have to get Will to do this. Sabo. Sabo. Yeah, I think it's Rustow Sabo. I think. How do you spell it? S-Z-A-Y-B-O. That's right. A-Y-B-O. Okay. See, I knew it was Zabo. S-Z-A-B-O. Yeah. So, I,

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I think this is probably the creepiest artwork in Priest's catalog. It's a mausoleum on a lakeshore with an ornate door and a skull with glowing eyes above the door. And the moon is full and high in the sky. And there's this weird shadowy man nonchalantly coming up from the sea while there's this white silhouette of a woman in heels lounging on the steps of the crypt. Yeah, the heels throws me off a little bit. It always does.

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Really? But I really like the muted colors on this cover. I love how different it is from all the other art through the years. And it also has that cursive Judas Priest logo on it, which is, I think it's the last time they used that one. But that's my favorite Priest logo because it looks classic and gothic to me. And I feel like the designers can actually place it appropriately on covers because, you know, it's in the middle. It's symmetrical. Unlike that,

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3D logo, which I'm actually not a fan of the 3D logo, because it always seems to get awkwardly thrown onto the side of albums.

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And it doesn't work on a t-shirt.

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It never works.

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When did they start, Barkestong, when did they start the 3D?

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Do you, I'm trying to remember that, because it wasn't originally 3D.

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No, it wasn't.

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It gradually moved to 3D, and then they moved away from it, and then went back to it.

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I don't remember, John.

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I'll look it up, so.

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But yeah, I really like that just cursive logo.

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And they did it on a couple albums, I believe. They definitely did it on Sad Wings. And they did it on this one. Just those two. Yeah. I just think that 3D, it's obnoxious because they're always putting it on the side of the album because you can't put it in the middle. It's at a weird angle. I never liked it. It started with Screamy. Yeah. But anyways, I just think this is a really cool cover and just very different than anything else they've done in their catalog. That's a good one. Matt?

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My number five from the year 1976, two years prior to my birth, Sad Wings of Destiny. The artist was Patrick Woodruff. I mean, it's pretty rad. The album cover is based on artwork he did titled Fallen Angels. And it's basically what it is, an angel falling or that has fallen. And it's a fallen angel. Exactly. I don't know if it's upset. It looks mad. Maybe about the season finale.

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I have a show they like that they did particularly care for

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but yeah pretty rad my number

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maybe great cover

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mid years next week yeah

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that's a better that is much

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better John yeah

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so right John

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all right so I'm gonna go to

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Matt's camp for my number five

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my number five is painkiller artist

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is Mark Wilkinson who I'm a

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super fan of

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if you guys don't know who Mark Wilkinson is

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he's done a few famous bands

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He's done some Iron Maiden stuff. He's done the band Marillion. I'm a huge Marillion fan. He's done Fish, the singer who used to be a Marillion. So that's my number five. Mark Wilkinson doing Painkiller. He is. He is. And he also did, what's his number five, I believe? Yes, he's a Mardis, yeah. Yeah, he did. He's done a ton of their stuff, actually. Yep. All right. My number five, I'm with Markisan Sin After Sin. Nice.

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Fuck yeah. I like your breath. I feel very close to you. I'm going to follow along in that suit. Only to say that this is a record I don't particularly like, which is weird about most of the pre stuff. Ram it down. That's a really cool fucking cover. It is. And it's got blood red skies on there. So that's all it needs. That's his first one. Actually, I want to share a piece of trivia to what you guys may or may not have noticed. And I, it's interesting because you can look at point of entry a thousand times and not realize

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It's your backyard? No. If this is so obvious, that's fine. But if it blows your mind, that's fine, too. And it's that the road going off in the distance isn't a road. It's that dot computer matrix paper. So look at it closely if you've never looked at closely at the cover of play. Well, that's if you have the American release. That's the American version. If you have the UK release, it's like the tail or the wing of a plane or something. It's completely. Both are useful.

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And it calls to mind stainless or stained class a little bit. The British cover. Any case, if you've never noticed about point of entry. Oh, wow. No, that brings back memories of like the home printer where it had to like, it was. And then you had to tear it off at the end. Dot matrix. Yep. No, I remember that. All right, George. My number five, British steel.

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Oh, yeah. Well, I got cold in here, but yeah. Oh, you changed? No, no, I just put on a long-sleeve shirt, but yeah, I'm rocking the British Steel today. Oh, yeah. Which is also a great fucking name for a metal band for Britain. British Steel. That's fucking good, dude. Oh, that is Matrix. Like definitive, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I just thought it was cool. Can I ask you, George, how did you feel about them following through on their original desire to have blood on the cover?

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when they did the anniversary issue. I think it's cool. You know, fuck the censorship. I mean, the same thing with, you know, Killing Machine. But don't get John started. Yeah, don't get John started. If it's not Scott Travis, I'm not going to go off that much. The guy's been there, what, three, four years now? 35 years. I mean, I always call it Killing Machine. Yeah, either one's fine. They're both cool titles, actually.

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Hellbend for leather, yeah. Pretty good. All right, number four, Alyssa. I was actually going to go with British Steel because it's, like, you know immediately that is a Judas Priest album. It's very recognizable. It's iconic. Forgive me, I don't know any artist names. I, like, I'm just, you know. Yeah, I tried to look it up, but I couldn't find it. It's the same guy from Sin After Sin, Ross Lozabo. Okay.

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Yeah. The thing about it is that it is iconic.

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Yeah.

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And it is controversial.

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Like, it got tipper gourd, basically.

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They wouldn't put blood on it, you know, because it's so edgy.

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I mean, they were like the Satan worship band, you know.

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Like, they were already being typecast as being evil and all this by, you know, satanic panic and whatever.

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But yeah, no, I mean, just it is iconic. And that's why I find it number four. Not my favorite artwork, though. You know, something else occurs to me about it. Suddenly, since George had it, too. And it's that looks like that record sounds to like that cover that you can almost guess how that record sounds. Almost, you know, if you've never heard priest before, you'd be like, this is no surprise. Yeah, no, it is interesting, because I don't think it's, it's not my favorite album cover.

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art either, but there is something about it that you identify with Priest, which I think is, you know, the point that Alyssa is bringing up. And I think it's a good one because sometimes it doesn't actually have to move you artistically. It could be some other reason for why you would put it on your list. And there you go. Yeah. All right. So my turn, right? Yep. Number four for me is Defenders of the Faith, 1984, art by Doug Johnson, the Metallian. This is the super 80s stylized,

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tiger assault tank creature with gatling guns that I dreamed of as a child. And the best part is on the back cover. There's a message about this beast that reads, rising from darkness where hell hath no mercy and the screams for vengeance echo on forever. Only those who keep the faith shall escape the wrath of the Italian master of all metal. Doesn't get much better than that.

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I feel like that guy should have shown up in like the dire straits video you know money for nothing with the little and he's like oh my god run away anyway it's so easy but that's like but it's the thing of is when you're young and that you're like holy shit I it made me it makes me think of thundercats now whenever I see it because they had that like cat temple that they lived in stuff that's what it looks like to me but when you're a kid like that was the biggest thing especially if you grew up you know in the 80s

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And now it's not my favorite artwork, but I have such a response to it because of my adolescence that it's got to be on the list. You know, it took me a second to realize that it's a, like, it's a Panzer tank. Oh yeah. Yeah. Right away. Yeah. I completely forgot that there was like the tank tracks. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you're going to the stage show that year too. They had a big representation in the stage show for that tour. And it was,

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It was like the next logical step after screening preventive.

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But this is also a good example of how the logo doesn't quite work.

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Like they see how they put it to the side of it.

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And it's like, it doesn't look right there.

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That logo that they decided to do the 3D, it just never fits in a good spot.

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It should be in the middle, but you can't do it that way because of the way it's built.

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So I've always hated that part of it.

01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:52.320
You guys who have a problem with the 3D logo.

01:38:52.420 --> 01:38:52.960
It looks great.

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You guys are full of shit.

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Yeah, well, Alyssa's nodding in approval. And she's an artist, and I'm a comic book writer. I actually noticed that they kept it pretty consistent. So the thing is, it's like a jazz song. You can play the wrong note, but if you keep playing it over and over again, it's right. That's true. They keep beating you to death. It's like, this is where it needs to be. Yeah, well, you know, I... Yeah, did it at least, what I'm seeing, like 15 times. Well, yeah.

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I bought the shirt and I don't wear it because it looks wrong because it's in the middle of the shirt and it just goes so none of their new shirts are very cool anyway it's just like they've got bad management I think anyway Matt you're number four my number four released in 1974 but not the actual original cover at Rockarola I actually really dig the art that came out let's see other versions what am I doing

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It's kind of this side view of what looks like a robot who also has a sword and wings and is dropping bombs. Oh, yeah. It's kind of the old school. It's a country issue. Yeah, the country issue. Thanks, John. And, you know, still the logo that is more the black letter. Completely striking. And I actually really dig it. So in a sharp contrast to Bruce still sounding exactly like the cover of that record sounds nothing like that. Oh, gosh. Yeah, absolutely.

01:40:25.440 --> 01:40:25.920
Yeah.

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There's also like a Frazetta version of that one.

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I don't know if it's really Frank Frazetta,

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but there's a,

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a Frazetta style cover that they released on one of the releases for that.

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Who's next?

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John.

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Me.

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All right.

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I'm going to stick with Mark Wilkinson for my number four.

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And yeah,

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I'm going there.

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I'm going with invisible,

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AKA invincible shield.

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No shit.

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I just love the colors.

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They just stand out.

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And when I first saw it, I know there's all this backlash on AI art now. And I was like, huh. I looked at it because it's so bright. And I saw Mark Wilkinson and I was like, yes. You know, so but it just stands out. And I'm not a super fan of most Priest covers, to be honest with you. Yeah. You know, you're right. They're iconic because they I always think of them. It's kind of like you whenever you see Eddie, it doesn't matter which album it is. You know who the band is.

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And so with Priest, they have similar covers. But I don't know. I just kind of like that it's got a lot of brightness to it. A lot of color. It does pop. It pops, yes. Plus the album fucking rips. I like when you see it popped and it immediately popped my beer. That was perfect timing and I didn't plan it. You're welcome. Okay then. Will. I don't know if there was rules to this. Rules just right. No, you cannot select Turbo, damn it.

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I'm not really in the military anymore. Damn it. I'm pretty sure he's about to say one that's on my list. Because I'm assuming it's a picture. Thank you. I love that one. It's coming. It's coming. And I got a couple things to say about it. I'm going with Metalworks 73 to 93. Oh, that's a cool cover. Yeah. Yeah. So not a studio album, but a compilation album. But I dig it. It's a cool cover. Yeah, it's cool. All right. It's actually a really good compilation too, by the way. Yeah.

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All right. Mine is, my next one is a call back to Screaming for Vengeance, but it's not Screaming for Vengeance, in that I thought Firepower had a really good cover to it, and it had the same dollar of Screaming for Vengeance. It's also a really good fucking record. Bob Johnson. It reminds me of the difference between the first Motorhead record in Overkill, where they, like, took it and then exploded it into fucking psychedelia, the, you know, saber-tooth or snaggletooth, and this is, like, the future of Screaming for Vengeance.

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It's kind of on Firepower, so it's pretty cool. Yeah. And just take all that and say it again, because my number four is also Firepower. Oh, it's a good cover, considering it's on the honorable mentions for me. It's probably the best cover post-Rob return, I think. Yeah, it's good. Yeah. It's good. Indeed. All right, number three, Alyssa. We already mentioned it. I really liked Sin After Sin as an album cover. I, it, in a way,

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It kind of reminds me of the artist that did Monty Python. Like layered. Like you know it's like different. It's collaged on there. So it's not like it's not as flashy as everything else. It's obviously so different. Didn't Terry Gilliam do that stuff? Yes. Thank you. Terry Gilliam. Yeah. It reminds me of Terry Gilliam a bit. Like with more of a psychedelic. I can see that. Okay. Yeah. I got you. Yeah.

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I like it comes down and stomps it. Speaking of sin after sin, John, did you see, and everybody, but John, especially for some reason, I don't know why, the Ian Hill talking about his favorite all-time priest song, one he'd like to put back in the set list. I did not. What is the song? I don't think you'd guess it in a million years, but he's right. It's a great song. Here come the tears. No, this is an aggressor.

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I love that song. I know. I've seen them. I saw them play that. I think it's cool that they cover Slayer. I thought Ian Hill wouldn't choose that. It's just like it's their fucking, it's like one of their heaviest fucking songs. Yeah. That might come up. Slayer covered it. That's the first time I ever like realized that like I like Judas Priest was dissing an aggressor by Slayer. And that's a good cover, by the way. South of Heaven. Yeah. All right. Quick poll. I know I'm the only one, maybe.

01:44:52.400 --> 01:45:22.360
The only one who knew it first from Priest. Did you guys all know it first because of Slayer? I knew it from Priest. Okay, Jay. Slayer. George. Because you're. Priest. From Priest, okay. Slayer. Yeah, that's what I thought. Me too. Okay. It's just, it's really funny to hear how people heard it first with Priest and then they heard Slayer do it and people heard it with Slayer who didn't know Priest then ventured into Priest territory which is cool. Yeah. So, awesome. I'm also going to kind of pimp out real quick that Touch of Evil wide

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I bring up from time to time.

01:45:23.840 --> 01:45:24.940
Oh, just listen to it yesterday.

01:45:25.720 --> 01:45:27.560
And there's a version of that on there that's so good.

01:45:27.920 --> 01:45:29.740
Yeah, I saw them when they did that on that tour.

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It was great.

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I forgot where the hell we are.

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My turn.

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I believe Matt's situation mentioned this one, Sad Wings of Destiny, 1976, art by Patrick Woodruff.

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This actually happens to be my favorite Priest record, and I've always loved this cover of a nude angel seated in a fiery hellscape.

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You like that it's nude, don't you?

01:45:51.320 --> 01:46:21.200
I do. I like that. But it's also very good artistically. And the colors are just incredibly eye-catching on it. But when I was young, I was really blown away by this art and how striking it is. But now that I've gotten older, I've looked at this thing hundreds of times, right? So I've noticed an additional detail. If you look at it, the angel is very clearly looking down at something that's smoldering with this mortified expression on his face. It's like he's thinking,

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Fuck me. What in the name of God did I just step in? Satan's flaming turd. I think somebody took Cerberus for a walk and didn't pick it up, right? But you don't notice it when you're young. I notice it as an adult because I'm a two-year-old art, right? But look at it. He's clearly looking at something. He's like, what the fuck?

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Who put this here? And it's something now, you know, being in comics, I just really notice these kind of like different things artistically. But I think it makes it better somehow because I want to know what happened. Like, I want to know what the fuck he's looking at. I want to know the story behind this action. And we don't know. So it makes it a little bit better for me. There you go, Maddie. Sweet. Okay. My number three, I think we're on, is Hero Hero, released in 1981.

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which may not be up for grabs, but I don't care because it's really cool artwork. So I got kind of a thing. I spoke wrong, but that's the presented thing. If it's for that, I don't know if it is. Nice. This is like a night dude with a glowing sword and shield that actually looks like some sort of a feline with teeth coming out of it. And that's pretty rad. And maybe one of the worst compilations ever made. I worried about that. Yes. Not that I think the songs are bad.

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They're not. It's just, it's their first two albums because they're the two Koch records. And I think they threw in Diamonds and Rust and that's it. They did. It doesn't go past Sudwings and Destiny, which is kind of funny. I once saw a compilation that I think was legit called The Worst of Judas Priest. I don't know if that's real or if that's a joke, but I've seen it. Yeah, it's hilarious. I mean, it looks real, but maybe it's just good Photoshop. There's some great, real good songs on that one.

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I really got it. All right. So my number three, my number three is selected for the same reason that Alisa said it was, she had it on her list and that's British steel because it is so iconic. It's not that it's a great looking album cover, but if you see that anywhere, you know exactly who it is. And I'm not going to lie to you. When I got that album, when it dropped, I was 12 back in 1980. And I just stared for hours. Like, how is this guy's hands?

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How did they do this? I mean, I was just mesmerized by the cover. I know. But in 1980, when there was no internet, and you were 12, you're like, and then you flip it over, and you're like, oh my god, they just look so cool in these concert shots. Yeah, I was mesmerized by that cover. And I remember my grandfather looking at me, and he looked, he saw the album, because I was in the car with him, and he's like, what's wrong with you?

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In 1980.

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1980.

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That's Scott Travis.

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44 years ago.

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He wasn't in the band.

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Did he ever figure it out?

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He should have been, but he wasn't.

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My number three has been mentioned before is my favorite Judas Priest album, Defenders

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of the Faith.

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But not your favorite album cover.

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Clearly.

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Not my favorite album cover.

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But he likes Tiger Tanks.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Did anyone notice it's got those little, like, wire things sticking out of the wheels

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where they would be located?

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So like when you drive by you could just cut people down on the sides. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Every like apocalyptic sci-fi film. Yeah. Has those on their cars. Yeah. Or like Greece. That's got a lot of weapons on there. I feel like that was either an escape from New York or Death Race 2000. All right. My number whatever this is unleashed in the east. I you know it's not just because I love this fucking record which I do. But there's first off if you've seen footage from that tour that this picture was taken after.

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for the tour, Rob was still dressing as he went. He worked for the, you know, Salvation Army at the time. Not really, but he was wearing a sash and all kinds of weird shit. And so there's two interesting things about it. One is they really didn't start to fully embrace the leather and stuff until after that tour took the picture for the record cover. And Les Binks had been let go in the meantime. And so there's no drummer on that fucking cover. If you've ever looked close, there's a drum set, but I don't think there's anybody sitting behind it.

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Yeah, I remember. Is he on the back, though? Let me grab my copy. That's a good question. I mean, he's mentioned on it. I don't know if there's a picture of him, but I'll grab mine. But in any case, Unleashed in These. I just think that to me is iconic. That's a definitive heavy metal. That's one of the first full presentations of a heavy metal band, fully dressed in leather, standing there on stage, looking like they're ready to take on the world. So, and I just love that picture. And I love that fucking record. Man, I love this top five because there's so many different covers.

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The Judas Priest Library. You're right, Jay. He's not on there. Did you look on the back? I looked on the back, too. It's covered. Yeah. Okay. It's awesome. All right. My number three. Sad Wings of Hellhound Dookie. Yep. Yep. Good job, George. Thank you. All right. Moving on to number two. You can't get it out of your head now that I mention it. No, I can't. This is my anecdote. I see like sulfur coming out.

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I got that thing where this is really nasty, but do you ever just rip a fart and you just can't believe that came out of you? Hell farts. Yeah, I just did that two minutes ago. Yeah, all the time. Like that's kind of what he looks like. Does that really come from me? Damn. I would say that a little bit. It's good though, but it's not emanating from his ass. So it's definitely not from him. That's the thing somebody else did. He got crop dusted. It's the sulfur.

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He's just a thing. No one's ever, I've never seen anybody talk about this until I just did it right now. At least something happened there. I think it's telling that Jay's not here right now. He's vegetarian and known for his just meat farts. Horrid fart. I do believe it's my number two. It is your number two. How appropriate that we're talking.

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So I'm going to go with my number two is it's a toss up. Again, this is just because of its level of iconic nature and everything. The screaming for vengeance, of course. Nice. Great. Great. It's the artwork is amazing. Bright, iconic. I have had many people ask me to tattoo it on them and I'm like, yes. I love how that comes around. It just has a lot of, it has a lot of

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I've redrawn it before and I was just enamored by how amazingly like mechanical it is but airbrushed and yeah it's super cool it is its own thing so I get that's definitely my number two I would have put it number one but I have a number one so right on every time I see it I just want to go yeah that was pretty good that was really good actually that was all right I don't like I don't like that

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All right. My number two has been mentioned before by our guests. Jugulator 1997 from Mark Wilkinson. But this is really interesting because Priest fucked this art up in 97 because the album cover they released featured a cropped version of the cover. It's still cool looking, but I have no idea why they didn't use the full image right away, which is way better.

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But fortunately, a Japanese label called Victor put out a CD with the full art in 2001. So that's the version I'm putting here at number three. I'm going to send it to you guys in the chat so you can see the full version. And I just saw it. And that's the reason why I had it as number five, because it was cropped. It looked too. This is ridiculous. Why didn't I? Yeah. So now you might put it higher, right? Because it's so fucking cool. The full version has always been awesome.

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So when it comes to priest covers, Wilkinson is the man for me because I just feel like he does these really intense comic book action images that really jump right off the canvas. And they took that away by zooming in. But when you see the full version that is this metallic cyborg freak goblin creature with huge claws, teeth rising out of a lava flow, which you did not see in the original version. And he's heading straight the fuck for you. And it's menacing.

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And there's a carcass in there too, right? Which you didn't get to see any of that. It's completely badass. And the colors on it are gorgeous, which also you didn't really get to see all the colors on that original version. And John had mentioned earlier that the logo is different too. I think it's unique. I don't know. We'd have to look this up, but I feel like it's the only time they used it. It's a jagged, stabbier version that incorporates the priest cross into it, into the logo.

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and the priest's cross is also on the character as well but it's just phenomenal i'm glad the japanese

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company the record label actually put this out because why they decided not to do it this way

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i don't know it's a phenomenal cover they used the same similar font on demolition i'm looking at it

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right now it's similar Markisan if you like his stuff mark wilkinson outside iron maiden you should look at

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his stuff he did with Marillion. Oh yeah. I mean, artwork's awesome for Marillion. I love Marillion actually. I've actually, it's funny because I was going to mention this one on what we're listening to, but I've been going back through the catalog on that because they announced that band that's going to be doing the Marillion songs. So. You see it? It's kind of hard with the glare. That's his assassin. I can see it. Yeah, it's good. Marillion. Yeah. I got that from him. I bought that from him when I met him. Nice. Yeah. That's awesome.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, anyways, like jugulator, freaking awesome. Alyssa was onto it. And then I feel like given the full version, it deserves that glory. Yeah. It's kind of got similar colors to Invincible Shield. That popping blues and reds and oranges. Right. But Invincible Shield is not a good cover. This is an awesome cover. It was good enough to make my list. Bitch. Bitch. I'm not joking. It was on my list.

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Yeah.

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So I think you're the guy.

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I was getting a beer wasn't I?

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I was getting this beer.

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Yeah.

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You stepped in the sulfur.

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Are we fighting?

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Are we fighting?

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No, we're not.

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He's just wrong.

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So nothing new there.

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Art is subjective y'all.

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Yep.

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So I don't know what she said.

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We're just having fun.

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All right.

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Paradox.

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My number two is actually my favorite Judas Priest album.

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It is my camp.

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I remember being a small child walking through Target and looking up and seeing like all the displays for this album not knowing what I knew what Judas piece was because there was all that controversy about controversy controversy from dang class better by you better by me thank you and so I looked up and I saw like a RoboCop but I don't know that RoboCop was out yet with wings and like a motorcycle that looked like a dragon but the tires were like saw blades it is painkiller my numero dos

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Nice.

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And I go back to, I love it. I like, I think it's good album art. I don't know if it's like the best in the world, but it's probably for me, it falls into that like first experience paradox where you see something for the first time and it gets ingrained in your head. It can be art. It can be music. It can be anything where it's like that first experience kind of warms you and makes you love it for the rest of your life, even if it may not be the best thing they ever did. So painkiller is my nostalgic factor is very strong.

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The paradox of the nostalgia. Absolutely.

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And I'm fully stating that paradox is probably not the right term for it, but it just sounds so cool.

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Yes.

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All right, John.

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All right.

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My number two has been mentioned a few times.

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They are the destiny sad wings or wings that are sad or sad wings of destiny.

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Or dookie.

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Yeah.

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And I don't think any of what you guys have said is what he's doing there.

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I think he's actually looking down at his lunch and saying, really? Baloney again? No chips? I don't know. I'm just trying to think of something different. That's all. I mean, it's, yeah, it's a great album cover. It kind of fits the music a little bit for the time that they, that was during their prog period for a whole album and a half. All right, Will. No one's mentioned this yet. Redeemer of Souls. This is the one where he actually lights his fire.

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and his feet catch on fire.

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As he's like flying.

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Yes.

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He's just standing there.

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He's got like flames coming out of his arm and his feet are on fire from light this far.

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Redeemer of farts.

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Yeah.

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I kind of wonder how gassy Wilkinson was.

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To be honest with you.

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What is the deal with all the fart talk today?

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So my.

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Alyssa started it.

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It doesn't mean we have to continue.

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Other than the one I just put in the chat thread, which I created an AI thing and just put in Judas Priest cover with fruit on it. And I have to say it actually came out pretty cool. My number two is off-pensioned, and I'm going to go against the grain here and say this isn't just iconic, it's just a great cover. I mean, British Steel is a fucking killer cover. I think it rivals Number of the Beast. You put those two records next to each other, that's 80s metal. But I also just want to point out that this layout in the back here, and that Overkill by

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And Motorhead is the same way. It's these live shot of each of them with a red outline. Every fucking Metal Blade and Megaforce record from the 80s was based on this. That's what Slayer wanted to back on their records, Anthrex, everybody. They all wanted to be these guys. And so that speaks to the iconic nature of this presentation. But I think British Steel is beyond iconic. It's a really well executed cover. All right.

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Bringing us back around to where number two started, Screaming for Vengeance. It's just badass. I mean, it's number two badass. You know, there's number one badass, but it's definitely number two badass. Exactly. I need to sample that. Honestly, one of my favorite pre-songs too, Screaming for Vengeance, the best song, is like in my top three for sure. It's such a good song. Take these chains. I like that song.

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I saw him play it live last time I saw him. I like George's Judas Priest shuffle. Yeah, man. That's my. All right. Let's finish this shit show off. What do you got Alyssa for your number one? My number one is absolutely painkiller. Oh, all right. Flat out. I love the, I love how just, I mean, just, this is the one underlying thing for me with Rob Halford and him knowing who he was and just having that overt,

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like motorcycle daddy sexuality there and just pushing that like into the mainstream and having people just not even knowing and just accepting how cool and awesome that is and it just has the metal blade as the wheels it just is ripping and the album rips like that that again it's like that satanic panic they blame them for being like you're making

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Killers out of our kids. And it's, listen, that album, like it's just thrashing. It's hard. It's in your face. And that's got to be my favorite album of theirs too. The artwork just yelled, this is what this is. That was my favorite era probably. And every time I hear pain, I heard them play Painkiller live and they had Pike and my friend John had to control me in the stands. Nice. But yeah, it's,

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For me, that is my number one. It's everything that I could want from a band that knows who they are and doesn't care what you think. They're just going to do it. They don't care what you say. Fuck you. Well, wait, that's overkill. But close enough. Awesome. Mark is on. Yeah, I feel like Alyssa and I are on the same wavelength here because my number one is also Painkiller from 1990 Art by I'm

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Mark Wilkinson's comic book crazy stuff. And I think to this is to me, the apex of his work with Priest. I just love everything about this fucking cover. It's a triumphant bionic angel celebrating the fiery demise of a metropolis atop a dragon cycle steed with saw blade wheels. Buildings are drowning in a lava

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field below. And it's a lava field clearly ignited by the impact of a colossal Judas Priest cross. And looking at this cover, given the blast radius, I'm guessing this giant cross was dropped from space by that cosmic Kaiju God hand on the Ram It Down cover. And here's the thing, right? Like Sad Wings, this cover makes me ask questions.

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Questions like, is that dragon cycle alive and does it talk? Like Kit? Could be. If the bike drives on land, wouldn't the saw blades just get stuck? Is there a living creature inside that steel angel? Perhaps the same angel from Sad Wings of Destiny? Or is it pure, unadulterated robot action within? And if it is the Sad Wings angel in armor, did he suit up?

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to get revenge on this entire planet because somebody, pre-Sad Wings cover, failed to pick up that Cerberus poop after they dog walked him in hell. And also, why does this bionic angel even need a flying dragon cycle when he has wings? That seems incredibly inefficient. So... It's got options. In summary, this is my number one. It's sick art. It conveys action and consequences.

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Ask a number of questions about the cover and about the artistic storytelling on all the other priest covers. And something that makes me think about this much nonsense is always a huge winner in my book. It's a fucking phenomenal cover. All right, then. Follow that, Matt. I will, but I'm not sure how. No, I have to go with Screaming for Vengeance is probably their most aggressive title. And I feel like the cover art

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matches that. This is a beautifully rendered robotic, what I assume is an eagle or some sort of raptor. Johnson is the artist. And I also like the color scheme. And when I see it, I actually poop my pants a little bit just out of fear. So just a little turtle head poking out. Just make sure you're picking up. Yeah. Angels don't like that. No, they don't. We need to find three screen prevention shirts that are bright yellow. Yes.

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Yes, they do.

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Oh.

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From Maryland Death Fest a couple years ago, Alyssa, we got a matching carcass, bright yellow carcass t-shirts.

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We wore them everywhere.

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It was so easy to find each other.

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Yeah.

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I was about to say it's a great way to find each other, you know?

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Couldn't miss them.

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You scream for vengeance as your call, like, ah!

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And then you knew where they were.

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I want to make neon podcast shirts so that we can find each other.

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Yeah, we always have to, we can't lose will in a crowd. It gets ugly. So. All right, John. All right. Actually, Jay started the trend and it was. Yeah. It was the yellow shirt. Yeah. Yes. Before there was the Italian, there was the hellion and the hellion, the original text on the back of the album was originally on screaming for vengeance and not defenders. I always felt defenders got a little hokey.

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after they did it on Scream for Vengeance, which was so much cooler because that's the album. I cut my teeth on more than Defenders, and I also saw that tour. So that's my number one, Scream for Vengeance. It's yellow, it's bright, and it's got some metallic bird that's going to take you out. Please don't scream because I don't want to have to scream for my... I just want it to be, hey, Scream for Vengeance. Yeah. I'm so proud of my scream.

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Are we having an arrested develop over here? Oh my god, yes! Yeah. I never wanted to put on a Godzilla suit more than after watching that series and just destroy the whole freaking town. Will? Will. Patrick, screaming for vengeance. Yes! Oh boy! Screaming for vengeance, same here. I think if there's an image most closely associated with Judas Priest, it's that fucking record cover. And not only that, but as John points out,

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the text about the hellion on the back. I will point out to you again that the first song on that is the intro, the hellion. And that fucking sounds like that bird coming from the sky. Those big fucking so good, man. And I say again, if there's an image that first comes to mind for me with Priest, it's that record cover. That's iconic. We're getting a lot of yellow shirts for the next. I think it's just going to mean me and Alyssa for painkiller and everybody else. Speaking of the shirts, I've mentioned this.

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I have a copy of Screaming for Vengeance that has the original order form in it to buy shirts. And I really want to send a check. It's everything you remember about the 80s. Allow six to eight weeks for delivery. The shirt's 10 bucks. They accept money orders and checks. I want so bad to send a check to whatever location is listed there just to see what fucking comes. That check's going to get lost, Jay. A return to sender letter.

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For sure. And even that I'd be thrilled with. Well, while I agree Screaming for Vengeance is a good cover and it sits nicely at number two, it is not number one. So let me correct all of you. Oh, George throwing a curveball. Oh, it's not a curveball. It's the number one album cover, Defenders of the Faith. It's from the family, the right family of covers. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you're wrong, but no, no, I'm not.

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That was my, I mean, Sin After Sin was my first album. I bought that on vinyl at Kmart, bargain bin. Didn't like it when I bought it because it was not where I was. I was more of a Defenders of the Faith kind of place. And that's, that was my next purchase was Defenders of the Faith. And I was like, free will burn and fuck yeah. And you know, so that album, I spent a lot of time staring at that album cover and it's wild. So yeah. Nice. You have been corrected. Cheers.

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Not really. That was really fun. Alyssa, I know we kept you a little longer. I hope it's okay. It's okay. I think 628 here, that's not so bad. I got my buddies playing their show. I think they're headlining, so I'm not worried about that. But yeah, it's always good to try to catch them before they got to get all the, you know, show jitters and things like that. Get in the zone. I probably not, but yeah. But it's been really fun. We appreciate you being so generous with your time.

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I am. Nevertheless, you were fun to talk to. Great to have you on. Yeah, you were an awesome guest. We really enjoyed having you. Anybody who seems at ease and just talks like they're one of the group, that's a good time for us. Yeah. Thanks. I always like talking about metal and art and tattoos. Those are things I talk about all the time. So it's second nature. So thanks. Right on. Maybe we'll run into you at a fest sometime or something. We'll say hi and have a beer together. Yeah. Yeah. I'm actually supposed to be headed out east at some point in May and I'm trying to,

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figure out if I can be there for Maryland Death Fest. I haven't been to Maryland Death Fest. That'd be the way for us all to say hi. I don't think I've been there since Neurosis played. Yeah, I remember that year. Oh, wow. Yeah, most of the guys are out there. I'm in Chicago, so if you're ever in Chicago, feel free to hit me up. John and I are in the D.C. area. I'm in Maryland. Not far. Same area.

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I'm planning a tattoo tour that's supposed to be Brooklyn,

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New York, Philadelphia,

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obviously the Poconos to help with my buddy's grand opening at mountain

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wizard tattoo.

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And it's in near Jim Thorpe.

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And we're going to plan a trip to the Frank,

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Frank Frazetta museum.

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I want to go there so bad.

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Is it the Florida one or a New York one?

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The New York one or the Pennsylvania one East Stroudsburg.

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All right.

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It's just outside of New York City, right? Yeah. I'm going to go visit my yin's in Pittsburgh. Maybe go to Baltimore. And if I'm in Baltimore, I'm trying to put that at the end of the trip and hopefully get to Maryland Death Fest from there. Nice. Nice. Yeah, maybe stop off in D.C. work at District Tattoo. Yeah. So I got a couple things coming up and I'm going to be on the East Coast. You know, feel free to hit me up. You got my email. So. Absolutely. Yeah. Did you want to,

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give out your social media or any other information for people who are listening to this

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alissa sure i mainly use instagram that would be alissa underscore tattooer yeah right that's

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what it is tattooer yeah so that would that's where you can find me or find my work i've been

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hawking a lot of memorabilia things from over the years i have a ton of lanyard like little

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of laminates from especially from the high on fire days my god i have so many of those i have like high

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on fire and sleep ones that i might not get rid of them i feel really weird about getting rid of some

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it's like somebody else can enjoy them i got tons of them so it's fine but yeah i put my artwork up i'm

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always taking commissions and yeah so and then lord dying is obviously going to be doing stuff in the near

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So we're hoping for the end of the year.

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Yeah. Looking forward to it. Yeah. All right. Enjoy hanging out with your friends and it was awesome to talk to you. Yeah. Thank you. Talking to you guys. Thanks for talking. Awesome. Thanks. All right. Thank you. You guys enjoy the rest of your night. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Will has put up the yellow screen for vengeance shirt he found for sale somewhere, which is beautiful. That is the longest link I've ever seen.

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It's eBay, but

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How many copies do they have?

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There's only one, so that's just one of the links I found

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I just wanted to show that

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they do exist

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You know, the logo's down at the bottom

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There's similar items, though, below it

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You guys need to buy those

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The tour shirt I got

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was one of those softball shirts

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So it was like a white

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or it was gray, actually, in the middle

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with the logo

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And then the sleeves are black and they're like capri sleeves. They only came up to your mid arm just above your... Capri. I just called it a baseball jersey. I said it was a softball jersey, but I like the capri thing. And on the back, I think it had like a hammer. It's like slacks. Hey, before we move on, I watched the first episode of something last night and I need some of you guys to watch this because I'm going to need somebody to talk to about it. This fucking three body problem. Yeah, I'm already... The first episode was super intriguing.

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I don't even know what that is. Just hit me up later, J. I'm two episodes in. It's the showrunners from Game of Thrones adapted. I think it's a Chinese sci-fi. Yeah, Chinese sci-fi. He was the first ever Chinese author to win the Netflix. And it's right up your alley, Marcus, trust me. And by the way, and also, sorry to be off topic here, but did anybody see Dune 2 yet? No. I'm going tomorrow. I bought tickets to the IMAX. Tracy and I are going tomorrow.

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I want to see it. I haven't either. The first one was so good. It's got really good reviews. The second one, yes. I mean, the first one did too, but the second one is out of control. Okay. Yeah, I've been dying to see it, but it's been, the theater's been packed. It's been selling out and I want to see in the IMAX. So we waited a few weeks till it kind of cleared out, but there's still, that theater is still pretty full, but we're going to see it. Actually, I probably, it's pretty late, but I want to watch the first part again before we should. Yeah.

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I just watched it again and I think it's the third time I've watched it and I was

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engrossing to me I mean I'll watch it but Tracy usually goes to bed at 10 so I don't think I don't think she'll be able to do it okay anyway I'm pitching a free body problem yeah it's good writing it down I think he's the first first Chinese author to win the is it the nebula nebula award that's yes that is a I read about him it's I think he was

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Yeah. Okay. So pardon my digression there. I don't have much left here, do we? Yeah, we got plenty. All right. How do we want to proceed? Do we want to do news first, George? Go ahead. Because I had picked from the crypt. Let's do it fast. I know. Hey, I put my sunset in the chat. You guys got to look at what's going on outside right now. Wait, you have a sun? Oh, yeah. That's beautiful. We all do. And it's setting right now. Send me my daughter sex change. Oh, yeah.

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What is that in the upper left-hand corner, that metallic thing in the sky? Yeah, right, exactly. Shit! Yeah, I don't know, but my power is going out. Yeah. All right, Penn State. Metallic thing, that's probably the angel from a Judas Priest cover. Ah, there you go. It's the hellion coming to drop the metallion on the ground. Take us all out. Now we are going to do the news.

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I think maybe Will should take it if that's all right yeah sorry um yeah the first news item is Blake Harrison a pig destroyer hate beak zealot rip unexpectedly passed away about a week ago a bunch of us knew Blake personally I knew him personally um metal Chris who's a local fixture here in the DC area he sent me the other day a picture

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He snapped a Blake and I. We both look like, so we were at DC Brow at a C-Cic Gladiator matinee show. And we both look like absolute garbage. I was in the middle of my cancer treatment. He just got finished his cancer treatment, but he picked up some other intestinal issue going on. I mean, we both, I should share this picture if I could find, but we look like crap, but we're talking to each other.

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And we're just talking to each other about fuck cancer and all this stuff. His, they had a memorial for him today. I couldn't make it because I had my kids. I was up at soundstage in Baltimore. But yeah, just a super great guy. Talented noise guy in the metal community. Hate Beak, if you know, he used to make like these metal noise records using like his friends, like parrots. And then he had to stop using his friends parrots because I think his friend lost the parrots in a divorce.

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So then he started using guinea pigs. He used Richard Christie, who was on the Howard Stern show and a drummer for Death and Chardwell's a Dam. He started using his guinea pigs and some noise records. So yeah, yeah, it really sucks. Yeah, it does. Yeah, he was a fixture at so many of the metal shows. He used to come to Atlas all the time. Him and his longtime girlfriend, Lindsey. Yeah, I've always considered Blake to be the ambassador of DC, Maryland, Virginia metal.

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whenever you go to a show, there he is. He's hanging out with the band. You know, he knows everybody and he's still got time for you. You know, it's, I'm not the kind of guy that just like walks up to people and starts talking because that's just not who I am, but he would come up to me and be like, what's up, man? You know? And I'm like, wow, you know, Blake's talking to me. You know, I wouldn't call him a friend. He was more of an acquaintance, but you know, talked to him a number of times and he's, he was

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really cool dude and it really broke my heart to hear about this and he was in a really cool

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fucking band he was in fucking pig destroyer i mean you know i'll share my one small story too

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which i shared with you guys which was just that when they played la um decibel i got a chance to

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everybody was hanging out i was like when we went to you know that one where everybody was hanging

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out at the hotel i was they were all kind of hanging out by the smoking area because that was where the

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backstage was and stuff and so i got to do an interview with them and stuff and talk to them and stuff and

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And then after it, I was like, Hey man, I heard probably on the yard was just re-released on vinyl and I don't have it. And I said, do you have any at the merch table? And he goes, yeah, come on. So we walked over there. He reached by the table, grabbed one and gave it to me. And I was like, you know, pulling my money out. He goes, no dude, fuck. You can just fucking have that. You know? And I was, and I, and before this, it was still special because a person in the band gave me the fucking record, you know? So, but as mentioned by everybody else here, super nice guy, super personable. I really liked Pig Destroyers.

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to him on their Facebook page and they said you only had to meet him once. What they meant was and you knew who he was which was a nice fucking guy. Too bad and for those who don't know his partner slash wife whoever it was posted that he had just gone to the hospital for something rather regular and his heart just gave out and she made the point and it's a good one which his heart can only take so much. Yeah. I just shared that story. Yeah the picture I was talking about I just shared in the group chat.

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Not in the Zoom chat, but in the regular chat. Okay. I don't know if you remember the time you and I were hanging out with him in Silver Spring. Yeah, yeah. He gave us the Pig Destroyer beer. The permanent funeral. Yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, this is awesome. And we were both thanking him. And he looks at us. He goes, I'm so tired of this beer. I have so many of these things laying around. And I was just like, you know, Blake, you could give us a couple. Yeah. But it was just, he was, but that was, I think,

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The First Time I Ever Actually Hung Out With Him. But there was times when George and I were at MDF. I think you had actually left, Will. And it was a Thursday night, and we were sitting over at the Linenkugel, and he just walked over, sat down, and hung out with us for an hour, just bullshitting about nothing. Literally, we talked about nothing. And it was cool because we were all just hanging out outside. Yeah. He wanted to come on the pod, and we never made it happen. And I'm really pissed off now that I didn't try harder to make that happen. Actually, I'll mention one more thing, and it's

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Something else I said in our private text, too, having seen them a couple times, it was so apparent how much he liked being in Pig Destroyer and how proud of that he was. And he fucking put a lot of energy in their shows. He was up there fucking going nuts more than anybody else on stage. Oh, yeah. I think he loved being in that band. He was like part-time hype man, part-time electronic sound effects guy. Yeah, and he was their ambassador, and that's just sweet. I love that. And I read some,

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I had to get to know him a little bit.

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I don't think I've ever met him to be honest and but he just all the stories I've ever heard including yours just seem like an amazing person just a really nice guy and only 48 years old I'm 48 I can't even you know yeah I can't imagine it it's no BS I mean you could be at Atlas at the bar getting a beer like a couple hours before the show starts and he walks in and just walks up to you and just starts talking to you it would it wasn't

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going up to him. Yeah, he really did just walk up to you. Hey, what's up, man? How you doing? You know, and it's that makes you feel good because it's like I could walk up to him, but he'd probably be like, oh, it's that guy again. But when he comes up to you, you know, he actually wants to talk to you. You know, that always meant something. All right. Okay. Next item. Lemmy's ashes are to be enshrined at the Rainbow Bar and Grill. I saw his ashes at Forest Lawn in Hollywood. I saw his little plaques.

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I didn't see the ashes themselves. But I have seen the Lemmy's lounge and the statue and I'm assuming that where the statue is that's where the ashes are going to be. I'm not sure why Lemmy's moving around so much but I don't know. He cut up into little pieces that's why. He gave his ashes to all these people in bullets. They also just announced that they're going to be every year there's going to be a display of bloodstock of his ashes. I mean those were divvied up. Yeah. He's going to get around.

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which works for lemmy so i don't know if it's gonna be one of the little

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bullets or whatever but i think right now it's starting to feel like if you don't have some of

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lemmy's ashes you're in a pretty exclusive little club yeah yeah all right so a couple of

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announcements to round out the news paul bear as mentioned previously has a new album called mind

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that is coming out May 17th. The single is called Where the Light Fades. I liked this. It's not particularly metal except for maybe a little bit at the end. But what I liked was that the vocals were crystal clear and the production was nice, unlike some Paul Bearer albums that I have complained about. So I guess we'll see what the rest sounds like. I don't know if it'll be heavy or if it's going to be just pretty stuff or what.

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Yeah. I mean, I agree with you, George. I like the first track. I think the singing is great. I think it's improved every single album. And this is like the best it's been. And it does get fairly heavy at the end. Yeah. There's only six songs. So these songs are going to have a lot of dynamics in them. I'm just hoping that the album spends more time on those dynamics because I felt like the last record, it was like the band kind of got stuck in the middle of the road.

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kind of area musically. Forgotten Days was the last album. It needed more pop. It needed bigger, better riffs on it to elevate those songs. It just never got to that point. I think that was the major problem that I had with that record. Some of the songs I felt could have been really good if they had that contrast, but it always felt like something was missing to me on that last album. So I don't, this first track doesn't give a lot of sense.

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of that, but I'm hoping that it is the first track on the actual album too. It's a single, but it's also the first track. So I'm hoping that means they're going to build to something more aggressive throughout, but I guess we'll find out. I'm going to say don't hold your breath. Yeah. The one thing I read about it was they said it's a continuation of the exploration of the last record. And so I think they're moving into a more mellow space and we'll see what happens. I could be completely wrong.

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I just I think the pallbearer of old is gone I think they're into a new headspace now and that's fine you know I don't have a personal problem with it it's just those first couple were you know were landmarks in their way and so it was a bit but we'll see we'll see who knows we should put some death metal in there reported that and I think several of you reported that the last one translated a lot better live which is referring to the commonly known as the master don co-chair paradox where they blow our minds

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And then time evolves and our minds cease to unblow and we're struggling to work through with them. I mean, honestly, I feel like Paul Bearer is a band who's kind of been moving in this direction. So it was no surprise to me when I listened to it, which is probably why it like I was actually super like optimistic about it in the sense of I wasn't, you know, I can't think of the name of the website, but they had a category of like albums that will fuck your face off. I'm using the quote marks.

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And when their first album came out, that's how they labeled it. And I listened to it and I thought, this is like a literal term because I can't find my face anywhere right now. And I would say the same of the second album. And then once the third one came out, I began to get that sense of evolution that was taking them a little bit away from that, which is totally fine. Totally fine. Yeah, this is just another step in that direction. And you'll have to decide if you want to go with them or not. And I agree with you too. None of this is me saying I was disappointed.

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by the lead track. It's fine. You know, it's good. And I have high hopes. But they're just, I think if you're hoping this is a band that's going to get heavier and heavier, you can probably just throw that out there. I mean, we don't know for sure. And I love Heartless. We don't know what we don't know. A couple points is that they, I think when Heartless came out, because that was the first one where they, like, they pretty, I don't want to say drastically, but they sounded a lot different than Sars Instinction and Foundations of Burden, which Foundations of Burden is still one of my favorite albums ever.

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I fucking love that album really good that song rolls apart man love it but I think when Heartless came out they kind of said in an interview at some point there's listen we never said we were a metal band or we never said we were a doom band or we never said like x y and z I think they were laying the laying the foundation not the foundations of the foundation that like listen we're going to be changing and I think they changed pretty significantly I listened to the song I'll admit I was like I hope this really gets better and it got a little bit better at the end but

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I don't know. I think I'll just listen to old Paul Bearer like the way I listen to old Opeth and old Metallica. But yeah, maybe if they're on a tour and I see them that it will sound better live. Because I remember I went, I can't remember if you were there, John, but I saw them on the Heartless tour at the old Rock and Roll Hotel in D.C. And live, those songs were way better live. They're a lot harder. The energy was there. But when you listen to them on the album, it just didn't do it for me.

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Well, without question, I agree. As a live band, all their stuff sounds heavier and faster. And it might just because it's a live setting. I'm a little surprised no one's brought this up. I thought the song was okay, and I did like how it got heavy at the end. I thought it was a pretty ballsy song because he puts himself out there vocally. Yeah, he does. He's a good singer. He's a really good singer. He's out there by himself for the most part. Even visually. And I'm like, that's a step. Because, let's be honest, in the early albums, you weren't thinking of him as a singer. No, no, but what I mean,

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I think he's gotten better. I think he said that Marcus song. Kind of reminds me of Phil from Dennis. His vocals have gotten better on each album. I think the production's gotten better. To me, there's still... First of all, I agree with Will. Foundations of Burden is just immense. But the very first song of the very first EP, the song Foreigner, is so fucking good. The vocals were more buried in the older albums. And I know that he's done a bunch of interviews

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He's talking about how he wanted to get better vocally and really bring that out. And I feel like this new track brings out the vocals in a way they haven't done before. Even the last album, I felt was it brought them forth more. Every single progressive album, you see the vocals coming more to the forefront. And I think it's his confidence in singing. Look at the song. There's nothing to the first half of that song. There's nothing but him. For the most part.

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It was buried

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The early stuff was buried in reverb

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And just kind of drowned out

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And it was good

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I like the vocals

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Don't get me wrong

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But now it's like

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I was hearing his greatness though

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I thought he was good from the get-go

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Yeah, you gotta remember

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That's that revitalized

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Not sludge

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But that revitalized doom

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I wouldn't say it was a new wave of doom

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But it almost really was

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There was so many new doom bands

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Yeah

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That was just a production

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That's all it was

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I mean, George has been on that for years

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I think it says a lot about them

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that we're spending this much time talking about them, you know? I mean, we love those early records so much. I found the press release, and this is what it said on here. These songs are a deeper exploration of dynamics and sonic color than anything we have done up to this point. Vocalist, guitarist, Brett Campbell explains, shedding light on the band's decision to strip everything back on the forthcoming, nearly hour-long album. I'm of the belief that true heaviness comes from emotional weight.

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And sometimes sheer bludgeoning isn't the right approach to getting a feeling across. It may not be that heavy. And then he went on to say that the tracks are vignettes that tell the stories of people who deal with myriad sicknesses of the spirit. Illnesses communicated by the world we live in and the subjects are the symptoms of the disease.

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So I think they're probably going for more of an introspective sound than a heavy sound on this one. But we won't know. By the way, one other last thing to mention about this for my part is that I read somewhere else possibly in that same thing you were reading there that they started making this record in 2019. So the whole of the COVID thing is encapsulated here in its way too. So that's interesting that they've been making it for that long. COVID probably sidetracked it a little bit.

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But a lot of fucking shit happened in those years. So just that that line true heaviness comes from emotional weight. Is there a way of sheer bludgeoning isn't the right approach? Yeah, I mean, maybe we're not getting heavy. Yeah, that I can let me translate that sentence for you. Will is going to hate this fucking record. Will hates this discussion. I said my piece. Right. All right, let's get moving on. Yeah, let's talk about another album.

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"Dark Superstition" also coming out on May 17th. And the new song there is called "The Black Curtain." I learned about this the other day when Stacy texted me and sent me the link to this and she was just like, all caps, NEW GATE CREEPER! So she was excited. And yes, it's kind of cool. I guess we'll see what happens there. It's not bad. Good. I mean, Stacy and I saw "Gate Creeper" together the last time they toured.

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And I was in the pit like the entire time. And you saw what? Candlemas the other day? I saw Candlemas. I saw I went to the Decimal Tour, which I didn't post about. So I saw Worm was phenomenal. I know we saw them at Decimal, but they're even better this time around. Anyways, I love Gate Creeper. I think that they're I think they're the best live death metal band I've seen in the last five years. Every time I see them, I'm so fucking pumped.

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I have to go in the pit. And I don't feel that way for a lot of bands. So there's something about the energy of that band, their songs, and especially live that just gets me going. So I'm really excited to hear the rest of the album. But to me, the height of their powers is live. Those guys are, wow. That's good. I feel like the EP they put out during COVID, I hear at least one song off of that every day because it's gotten into my, what Spotify is,

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My Spotify Plays Me, the songs that I play a lot, which... Your bitch list? Exactly. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing. But Jay and I saw them at the pool at Psycho Vegas, and you're right, they were just so good live. Yeah. The first track I thought was okay. I'm definitely more optimistic about what is yet to come, but it is still yet to come, so... It's interesting. I kind of feel like the same way about that Gate Creeper's good. They've done better. I gotta wait to see how it unfolds in the context of the album.

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Like High on Fire, that first track also good, but I've seen better. And I've seen reviews saying they do all kinds of other things on the album. They're talking about High on Fire. So I'm wondering what's going to happen with Gate Creeper, too. I would say that's a great comparison. I think the High on Fire song is proof that record's going to be great. To me, that sounds like something like Bastard Semi or something. I mean, I like the song, but I feel like they are capable of doing something even better. But that's what I'm hearing.

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of that on it lately. Hopefully we get the promo for it soon. All right. Last news item. Dark Throne is also releasing a new album. It beckons us all on April 26th. I listened to the teaser trailer, which is like a minute or so of clips from the album. And yeah, you know, it's Dark Throne. It's raw, but it's not underproduced. It's middle of the road produced.

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I think I'll like it. You know, I like most of their stuff, even when it sounds like crap. Looking forward to that. I don't know if anybody else listened to it. Nope. Crickets. Not yet. All right, let's move on to new releases. First up, the new Bruce Dickinson solo album, The Mandrake Project. It's his seventh solo album.

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I've heard some somewhat negative comments from the gang on the chat about this and I don't know where that's coming from because I'm sorry Jay I don't mean to rain on your chemical wedding but I think this is like his best solo album I mean I listen I don't know if I agree with that George but I agree with you that this album is pretty great it is it took me a few spins to get into it I think but I'm really enjoying it I feel

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I like this album it showcases Bruce's range of styles and his talent with a lot of creativity and variety but it still delivers thunderous metal parts there's even growls on this it's really good even as a shorter better alternative version of eternity has failed from book of souls which I thought was really good so is it the chemical wedding no I mean that's like the height that's going to be the the greatest Bruce Dickinson

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Soul Album for me. It sounds like you don't think that, George. I think Chemical Wedding's okay, but I think this has better hooks. I think it's really good, and I appreciate that Bruce put together a good collection of songs without really playing it safe. He digs deep into the catalog of stuff he's done before, but he also adds new twists into it, and that's something I just feel like you don't get that much from the old guard, and so I like that part of it.

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I know how much you guys love the new Priest album, but I kind of feel the opposite about that. It's good, it's solid, but it's stuff I feel like I've heard before, where Bruce Dickinson is doing something different, you know? And when he's doing this solo album, he's bringing in new sounds, trying different things, but also showing you what makes him such a great metal musician. And I like that about the record.

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I want to mention something that you mentioned. The song from Book of Souls in 2015 is slightly different. In 2015, there was a question about whether Eternity would fail because the song was called If Eternity Should Fail. Nine years later, clearly something's gone off the rails because now Eternity has failed. And both versions I like, but...

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Yeah, I was listening to this. I didn't know that was on there. And I was like, oh, wait a minute. I recognize this. But yeah, it's slightly different. Eternity has now failed. But it hasn't, because I think it's a better version of the song. Oh, no. I mean, it's great. I'm going to hold off on my judgment then, because I was a little underwhelmed by it. But your enthusiasm for it makes me think I better revisit it a little harder. And I probably only listened to it all the way through once. In fact, I know I only listened to it all the way through once.

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And then I kind of dipped into it here and there. I think I'll just completely withhold any judgment on it for now. Go back to it, Jay, because I did not, I wasn't that taken by it until I spun it a few times. That's a good sign. That's a good sign. And John BT, I think was underwhelmed by it too. He's a big Chemical Wedding fan. And, and I, and so we were talking, it was like the first time I listened to it and I was like, oh, you don't like this much either. And I just kind of walked away. So. I feel like the first and last tracks are like meh, but everything in between is awesome.

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Okay. All right. I'm prepared to have had a bad day and have screwed it up. I'll try again. I mean, rain on the graves and resurrection men. And I can hear those in my head right now. Yeah. Sticking in there. I just feel, just think of it in the context of all the stuff he's done. And I feel like he's putting himself out there and giving you everything he's got. And by the way, you need to do that as a listener, doing a pretty sizable tour for it too. So.

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Bless his heart for that. Like he's doing 45 shows in America or something. Yeah. Nice. I don't know if he's coming to a theater near you, but I bet he is. Not near me, but. No, nobody's coming near you. Snakes. Except the Chupacabras. Yeah. Scorpions are. You're gonna get some scorpions. Not Scorpions the band. Not Scorpions, yes. The real scorpions. Any other comments? Little ones, scorpions. You didn't really do much for me to be honest.

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It's significantly better than the last few Maiden albums, but it didn't grab Maiden. And I've never been a big Bruce fan solo, so I'll put that out there. But when I listened to it the first time, I was like, it's all right. It's not bad. I mean, I've listened to it. But conversely, Marcus, you mentioned the pre-salm. I heard that the first time, and I was like, repeat. So that's just... We'll get to that. It makes sense to me because, you know,

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It's like it's priest and they're doing it whereas

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Bruce is kind of doing something a little bit different

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See I disagree with you on that I don't think

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Priest is rehashing anything at all

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I don't either

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I mean they may dip into some things they've done in the past

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but I don't hear them

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If anything it's a sister album to Firepower

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I agree with that

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but it's certainly nothing like they've done

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since Painkiller

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And I don't even think it's

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The truth is I don't even think it's like that John

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Richie Faulkner has brought this fresh new perspective

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on riffology to that fucking band. That's really what's going on. That and the fact that Rob sounds so fucking good. And I will say, I wish we knew. I mean, we can save this for when we get to it. Let's save it. Yeah, because I do have a few comments about the album, but it's just different perspectives we have on the two. I definitely think Firepower reinvigorated that band for sure. Oh, for sure. I would say, honestly, I think Redeemer of Souls did. Yeah, but still like Angel of Retribution. I like that album. Nostradamus is just a big poop.

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Yeah, that deserves a little more credit than it gets. Yeah. Anyway, let's go on, George, to the next one. All right, so next one is Grey Sky's Fallen, their sixth album, Molded by Broken Hands. They're a New York Death Doom band. I believe John likes this band. I know Justin does. He's a big fan. I liked the last album. That's when I first got into them. I feel like you've seen them before. Did they play at Atlas one time? I don't think so, but I remember getting the

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I mean,

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just bludgeoned literally the metallian is just rolling over us right now with new releases it's crazy

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nicely done john yeah i mean it's just like my metal friday that i posted holy shit it's and it's just

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going to continue i mean into april it's just nuts so these nuts but it's a solid album i agree i actually

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really like it go ahead matt you talk first oh i just i literally just say i like it you know i've only

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I enjoyed it.

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So I hope to get back to it.

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I mean, I think it's really well done Gothic Death Doom.

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It's full of emotion.

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I think it delivers those grand epic tracks that you want from them.

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I think the songs feel enormous.

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And there's a real vitality to this record that I really like.

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I liked the last song, but I feel like the energy on this one is a little higher level.

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So this band's never been my favorite band. There is something about this record that I really dig. It's one I have to spin a few more times to see where it lands for me, but I think it's pretty well done. I think if you guys want a good laugh, go to Angry Metal Guy's review. And I think someone from the band actually comments, and it's really funny because they're like, I thought we would do better than our crappy score we got for the last album. I'm paraphrasing.

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But it was really funny because I thought that's a good sense of humor to

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because he because you know that's like you have to take metal

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the angry metal either it's the greatest album ever or they shit on it. What do they give it Jeff?

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I don't think they scored it very well. I'll have to go back and look but

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it just it's funny that excuse me that the band had a good sense of humor about it because that's good press for them regardless. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway. All right. Now we can talk about Judas Priest's 19th album

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Invincible Shield. Or is it Invisible, George? It's not. FYI, DJs on Ozzy's Boneyard, it's Invincible, not Invisible. Oh, right, right, right. I got very angry while I was driving in my car when the DJ was like, here's a track from a New Englandist Priest, Invisible Shield. I was like, no. They do that all the time. Like when they talked about Deep Purple singer Ian Gillian. I was like, God bless it.

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John was on the edge of a comment that I want to believe was... I think John was going to wonder how involved Glenn Tipton was. Yes. I thought you were. Thank you, Jay. So there's a reason why this is coming up. Because I've heard, like the Bruce album, I've heard both positive and negative comments. I've heard a lot of positive comments. I think some overblown comments about how good this album is. I don't think it's their best album ever. Not even close. But I think it's great.

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But I've also heard some real negative comments about, oh, it's just a Rob Halford cover band. And that always really pisses me off because there are three guys that are associated with the album that have been in the band since the beginning. Okay, Halford missed two albums during the 90s. And then you've got, I'm going to say it again, like I do every episode, Scott Travis has been in the band almost four decades. You know. And Hill is the only original member. And honestly, this is Richard Faulkner's third fucking record.

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He's been in the band since 2013? When he first joined? I get tired of that. This is a Rob Halford cover band. If Glenn Tipton, I don't know how involved he is. That was the point of this. Even if he's just giving Richie direction on what to do in the album, he's involved. There's been plenty of bands like Sabotage. John Oliva wasn't in the band in terms of playing, but he was giving direction. He's still part of the band.

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I think Glenn is the spiritual master of the band. I do think the riffs were written by Richie because they don't sound like Glenn riffs to me. No, but he probably still. That doesn't piss me off. That's why this record has, there's some fucking almost Metallica shit on here, really. A couple of little sections that are, I'm all for it. I think they're reinvigorated. I think, I don't know that I'm interested in what Richie Faulkner wants to do as a solo artist, but working in Priest as he does now, I think he's perfect for him. Right. I agree. I think if K.K. Downing came back, this would have been a lot worse record.

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Right. And I'll be honest with you. Does anyone not put two and two together to realize this dude almost died on stage a few years ago? Yeah. Richie. To be performing the way he is, that's pretty amazing. And we're really lucky to get that, you know, that we can still see them play. And I'll say one last thing, and I hate to keep bringing up Scott Travis, but I saw someone recently on YouTube on some thing, whatever, a group of people talking, and this came up.

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And some guy made this comment. He's the one who made the Half Recover Band, which I wanted to smack him for that. But he made a comment, oh yeah, the drummer doesn't really even need a drummer. He just goes back there and just kind of plays basic notes. And I'm like, literally, do you realize who's been in this band as a drummer? Simon Phillips, Les Binks, and Scott Travis. There was one dude who played on all their popular 80 albums that sucked. That's the only dude. Listen, John, we're going to have that conversation someday, because I can defend Dave Holland to you.

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He does some decent things, but the proof is go listen to riding on the wind off a touch of evil live and then go listen to riding on the wind from the live show from Memphis with Dave Holland. And you tell me how good Scott Travis is when people say he's not that good. Also, I don't think he's a paint by numbers guy at all. It's funny because I've listened to this record a lot. Let's do it on headphones. And I think, and I'm not joking before you said that there's some really creative drum parts on it. There's some really weird solos. There's some really cool breakdowns.

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The Middle of the songs. Some of the riffs are fucking massive, Sabbath-sized riffs. I think this is a modern piece of really good heavy metal. And as stated a thousand times before, Rob still sounds criminally good. What did I send to you, Jay? That message? I said, wait, when did Painkiller and Turbo hook up to create a new album that is entitled Invincible Shield? Did you hear that little bit of Turbo?

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It was like just a second

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where it was like that

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like

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It was all throughout the album actually

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No, but there's this

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The intro

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It was like a little like

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almost like a

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Yes

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Yes

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And I was like, oh, that's Turbo

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and then it was gone

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There's also a little Hellion in there

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There's a little bit of the intro

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to Judas Is Rising in there

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The chorus to Sinner

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The chorus to Sinner is on the album

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at one point

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And the

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there's in the

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I'll come up with. But Marcus, I want to get back to your point about you saying you've heard before, and I'm not saying that you haven't, if you have. But what I find interesting is that they inject all these little bits. But this album, still, there's songs that don't sound like anything they've ever done before in their career. Especially in the back half. Yeah. See, I know you guys are all saying you like the back half. I got to tell you, I have not heard an opening three songs to a Priest album like this.

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a really long time. I mean, going back to maybe, I know you guys like Defenders, but I always thought that Screaming had the best opening three songs. Although the British version of the UK version of British Steel, I thought was pretty good too, because it wasn't breaking the law at the beginning. So the one I was going to point out, John, is I'll find the song on there because I don't remember it right off the top of my head because I'm not, they don't have them all memorized. But there's a little section of White Heat Red Hot on this record too. Like, I mean, it mimics. Just send it to me. Yeah.

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I mean, this proves my point. You guys are mentioning things. I literally just said this two seconds ago, that there's so many songs on the album. And this is just my opinion. I know you have your opinion. But there's songs they've never done before. Nothing like that on any of their albums. Not even on Firepower. I love that we're talking this much about it. We liked Firepower. I think this is better, personally. Right. And I get what you're saying, Margot, but I don't think

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they're rehashing anything at all just because they're calling back to a few things no i mean i listen i like

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the album i'm not as high on it as you guys that's fine you know yeah that's all right especially

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because choruses are there a lot of them you said that and i laughed i was like lyrics are as simple but

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then yeah that's how they've always been they've been doing that for 40 years i know but but remember i'm

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I don't I'm not as picky as I am now because I've listened to so much more metal and I just like more I like more different traditional metal bands than I do Judas Priest that doesn't mean I don't still really like Judas Priest I'm going to see them live of course I just don't have the same affection for this album that I do for older ones I guess

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I think we all feel that way.

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Now, George, you can speak.

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You know what?

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Let me just say my last thing.

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It's going to be on my year-end list without question,

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and right now it's pretty fucking high.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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That's how much I like it.

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I think it really fucking good.

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So my first time through, I was like, huh, yeah, it's pretty good.

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And the whole, like, back half thing, I was like, yeah, back half.

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This is pretty good.

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Second time through, I was like, yeah, this is something.

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This is a real process, George. Yeah. Today I listened to it again while I was working on my list and, you know, my script stuff. And I had the heavies on and I went front to back and I was like, this sucks. No, I did not say that. I said, holy shit. Here's a Judas Priest album. A long Judas Priest

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where there is nothing bad. Everything, every single song, I liked. I didn't just like it. You mentioned headphones, and I'm glad because if you listen to it in headphones, you're going to hear a lot of layers. They really went through each song and added a bunch of background vocals and all kinds of interesting shit. Yeah, the more you listen, the more little things you hear. But I also want to put my stamp of approval or agreement on your listening experience, because I want to say it was about the third time through. I was like, oh, okay.

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Like it took me a couple and then I was like fuck this is kind of fucking special so. It is. As of my listen today I was like I think this is the most consistent Priest album. Like I'm not going to go so far as to say it's their best album. I understand there's there you know there's more than just songs at play here. There's nostalgia and whatnot but I think it's their most consistent album because there's like how many freaking songs like 14 songs or whatever and they're all good.

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Good. And this is definitely a lister. And I would say it's in contention for album of the year. Okay. I'm gonna make a huge statement too. And, but I mean, this is a very specific way. And I know we're still talking about the same fucking record, but this is their brave new world to me. It's their best post 2000 album. Oh, geez. That's got some of its roots in the past, but sounds really good and modernized and a new, newish version of the band. And I still hold brave new world.

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this high. We all do.

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And I think this is kind of Priest's Brave New World.

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I wish Maiden would not do Brave New World 2,

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but I wish they would venture into that territory again personally.

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I wish they would get rid of Kevin Shirley and get somebody else.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Anyway.

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Yeah, I wish I was a little bit taller.

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Matt, what do you think about the record?

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When I listen to it, I think these Judas Priest guys are going to get big.

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I think they have to.

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They've got something here.

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They've got a future, these guys.

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They might sell out a show or two. Yeah. No, I honestly, I think it's a great listen. And I look forward to seeing them live in May. Can you quickly remind me who's on that tour? Sabaton. Is it? Yeah, Sabaton. Sabaton, okay. Sabaton. I think I felt cheated because I think the British lineup was better. Agreed. Did it have Saxon? I think it was Saxon. It was Saxon, yeah. The thing is, Sabaton, Saxon I'm hearing is some people think they're outshining priests on this tour.

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But when you look at Sex Off, I feel like they're a little bit better. But Sabaton's going to be basically, I mean, I'm not a fan, but I have nothing against them. I think they're great live because they bring a ton of energy. I want to see them. They're basically disciples of priest, you know, albeit they do a Euro power metal thing. And plus, I see them all the time meeting with vets, you know, old vets like they did at that time with that 90-something-year-old guy.

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from World War II, and I'm always thinking, man, this is actually kind of cool. They take the time to do this stuff. Yeah, that's nice. I didn't know that. That's cool. Yeah, I've never seen them. I'm looking forward to that. Yeah. It's going to be total power metal. He's going to have the big old chest thing on and everything, and it'll be fun. It's going to be a spectacle. I'm surprised how big they are. I remember when I got... They're huge in Europe. Yeah, the Primo Victoria, like the promo for that, like a million years ago. And I was like, wow, this is kind of like Running Wild does World War II.

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War II metal. And I never expected them to get as big as they are. And so it's good for them. But the caveat of what John said in Europe, I mean, they're huge. Yeah, they're not big here. Yeah. Wait, what does Will think of Judas Priest? He loves it. He said it earlier. Yeah, I mentioned it earlier. I really like it. To me, it's the best album they've done in about a gazillion years. And I'm a pretty big fan of Angel Retribution and Firepower.

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and Redeemer, Redeemer, Redeemer, Souls. I like all those. Nachodonis can suck it. And I even try to listen to that again. Yeah, I try to listen to it again like a year or two ago. It's just not good. Yeah, and I'm like, no, it's still not good. It's too bad because those two songs off A Touch of Evil, what is it, Prophecy and Death, are pretty good songs, and the rest of them. Yeah. No, I really like it. You can, there, I was going to chime in earlier, but if you read the Dust Bowl article, they do say Len had a hand in it, you know, when he could. So he was like a guiding light in

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They mentioned that in a decibel article. And I just think Rob sounds amazing. It's ridiculous how good he sounds. Yeah. If you held this up to anything previously, his vocals, they cut it. They cut the mustard. Yeah. I mean, it's like he's coming right out of the gate like painkiller. Yeah. With a panic attack. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I think we've done enough Judas Priest. It's like an hour. Have we? Have we though? This is a Judas Priest centric episode. I don't know. It totally.

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I have talked about Paul Bearer longer. I don't think so, John. It was long, not this long. You're just going to get pummeled when this is our number one album this year. Yep. All right. Next up, we have the new Midnight album, their sixth album, Hellish Expectations. You know, I've never been a huge fan of the band, their albums. It's okay. Motorhead meets Venom. Gotcha. But I will give them that the last time I saw them,

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which I swear was at Decibel like last year but maybe it was two years ago. They are freaking amazing live. So they're one of those bands that definitely sound better live and I get that. I feel like the album itself is okay. It is what it is. It's not ridiculously special to me but I understand that when we see them they're probably going to kick ass. I mean it's midnight. It's the same fast filthy black and thrash that you expect from

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This band done, you know, they're a fun band. And if you like their previous albums, you're going to like this one. If you go see them live, it's going to be even better. I've seen them live multiple times and they're great on stage. Yeah. Yeah. It's there's nothing really new to this, to their sound. You know, if you dig them, you're going to you're going to really like this record. Overkill syndrome. I want them to take those damn head things off. I'm just so done with the stockings. Yeah, I just I want to see a face.

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Yeah. It's actually a one-man band. I know. He gets all his friends to go out with him on tour. Yeah. The guy from Ghost is getting a new band every time. Yeah. Vaguely related, and I have no knowledge about this whatsoever, but they also have just released some sort of visual art kind of thing that's like photographic, like him or them doing things like being on fire and shit. That's the cover is one of them's on fire. I'll find it, but it's a book. They literally put a book out of,

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some sort of visual photographic art thing. Interesting. But it's all midnight and interpretations of midnight or something. I don't know. I just saw it on Facebook or something. Cool. And I like midnight. I probably like two minutes to midnight a little bit better. Yeah. Because I don't like to push it too far. But. That's why I always go three to give myself that extra minute. And that's smart. That's smart. Yeah. You just, you don't know. It's not the difference between seven minute abs and six minute abs. But.

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Eat a little bit of time to go to the bathroom and then just get ready. So two to three minutes to midnight. All right. Next up, we have Necrophobic and their 10th album of Swedish death black metal in the twilight gray. This is one of those bands that I always forget how good they are because I'm like, oh, it's kind of a dumb name. It's a Slayer song. And, but it's respectable, you know, I mean, it's not probably list worthy, but it's a respectable.

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Death Black Album. And I feel like Midnight, they're consistent in what they do. And I dig it. How did you refer to them, George, as a Swedish death metal band or death black? Death Black. It's probably more black than death. Even with a name like Necrophobic, you would think they would be more death, but it's a little blacker than death. It's kind of a rolling, ripping black and death. So let me make a statement that should not be made on a metal podcast. But do we really need a 10th album?

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from a Swedish black and death band.

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Yes.

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Yes, we do.

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All right.

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Fair enough.

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I mean, like I am, like I say, it's like, oh, the new Marduk is coming out.

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Okay.

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We could like reissue one of the first three.

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Yeah, no, I could reissue one of the first three.

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Take your point, Jay.

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That's a terrible thing to say because this is somebody's favorite band and I can put

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up with repetitive shit as good as the best.

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This album's really good.

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Every song on it's good.

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It's okay.

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All right.

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That's all.

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I mean, I think you should.

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Take back my suitcase.

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Stop being afraid of death. And listen to Necrophobic. But yeah, it's actually a very strong record in that genre. I keep getting confused. There's 800 bands that start out with Necro. Necro F following it. Necro T. I keep getting confused. Don't be confused. I don't know. If I listen, then I'm going to get confused when the next similar name band comes out.

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I don't have to listen to any of them. All right. Personal. Then let's move on to Slime Lord. And can I, can I share a weird fact really quick, George? Yes. Two seconds. Just because it was related to our top five lists. What album was released on March 23rd, 1976? Today in 1976. Was that one I mentioned? It was just Priest album. Yeah. Sad Wings of Destiny. Oh. It's exactly however many years old that is right now. 76.

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That would be 48. 48 years old. So 48 years ago, one of your favorite record covers came out. That album is as old as Marcasson. Yeah, it turned 49 this year, so. I connect with Sad Wings of Destiny. Yeah. Sad Wings of Marcasson. I was talking about Necro, and it's true. Necro Wretch came out this year, and that is an excellent record. I can't keep up all of them. There's too many of them. Necro butt. By the way, what is up with 1976 and Naked Dudes on the album covers?

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Yeah, seriously. Yeah, I feel it. Is that when 2112 came out? Naked guy in the cover. What the hell's going on in it? Naked angels. Yeah, the naked angels looking at the naked guy. What did I step in? What are you building here? What is he doing in there? It's a Tom Waits reference, by the way. Yeah, it is, yeah. All right, moving on, George, what do you got? All right, Slime Lord.

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And their first album,

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Kytridiumycosis,

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Kytridiumycosis Relinquished.

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I knew you did.

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I was like, wow, I nailed it on the first take.

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He must have been practicing.

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I practiced a little, but I wasn't that good.

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I said it earlier too, but yes,

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I probably said it probably about a hundred times.

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I was like, don't fuck this up.

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Kytridiumycosis?

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Kytridiumycosis.

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Okay.

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And I know this is a band that is made up of people from another band that you like. So. Thick shift. Yes. So why don't you talk about this? Oh, okay. Sorry to me to hone in. I apologize. Yeah, it's a boy. This seems to be a lot of death and death doom type bands. You know, we have to have at least a certain percentage. Otherwise James gets bitchy. I know. And the funny thing is that it's all these albums like Markisan mentioned earlier this week or before about apparition. The other one, I think I mentioned the. Oh God, I can't read it. No.

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I'll get to it later. Another LA band, but yeah, this is three guys from Cryptic Shift. It's dirty. It's swampy. It's heavy. It's crushing. It's a cool album. It's got some little bit of proggy elements, but it's, if you want to feel like you've just fallen into a Louisiana swamp, then put this on and fall in because it has that feel to it, but it's not as cavernous as some people are making it out to me. So I think it's pretty good.

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No, there's some pretty memorable riffs on there, too. It's not like you're just drowning in a sea of, you know, death. Slime. Slime, yeah. No, it's cool, man. I really like it. It did take me a couple listens to get into it, though. Me too. Because it does have a lot going on, and it is murky. Very murky. It's Sivris. That's the other band I was thinking of. Sivris, yeah. And last weekend, I actually, Brad Moore, who is the cover artist for Slime Lord, was here in

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And, you know, he's done covers for Worm and Tomb Mold. And so he did a signing at Meteor Gem, which is a great metal record shop here, and autographed my vinyl copy of the Slime Lord record. And we probably talked for about 20 minutes about art, comics, super nice guy. I picked up the full print of it, which, hold on a second. Oh, I do have one.

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Yes. Oh, nice. Wow. So you signed it. You got to wonder how artists feel when they do this giant, massive artwork and then it gets cropped. Kind of like Jugulator. Right, yeah. No, at least. Oh, Jugulator is just ridiculous. They should make them gatefolds, at least so you can open the gatefold and see the whole thing, you know. Yeah, it's cool. The Dune cover from the previous album was like that, too. Right. So, yeah, he's

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He's down to come on the cast, which I told you guys about. But you know what's funny is that two hours after I brought that print home, my cat stuck into this office, climbed on my comic book boxes because I laid it across there, and he creased the art with his big, fat, fluffy body. And he left some scratch marks on it, too. You son of a bitch. But yeah, I mean, I think it's just, this album's terrific. The cover, obviously, is awesome, but it's their first record.

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I think they did some demos and everything but it kind of reminds me a little bit to mold and stuff like that but it is its own beast and it's great the more I listen to it the more I really like it yeah me too you know it's funny as I was I mentioned earlier I was just out in Texas in New Mexico and I went to Carlsbad Cavern if anyone's been there I've been there it's crazy like I had no idea it was that big and the whole time I'm walking through I'm like man some metal band has to like play a show down here

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And what about the 75-story elevator ride? I walked down. I did not. I took it up. I walked down into the cavern, but I took that back up just for the same time. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. It's crazy how deep that is and big it is. But the whole time, like, man, some bands got to play here. They got it. National Park Service has to give somebody a permit to do this. All right. So our last new release, Ultimas or Ultimas. Epic.

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their second album they're an international black and death band featuring

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david vincent from morbid angel and some other guys from bands that i didn't bother to write

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down but it's an all-star band trust me so did anybody like this i i feel like will probably does

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i think we'll like it when will gets around to listening to it i have not even listened to a note of

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it yet. But I did download it for my... Today I spent some time. It was raining here all day and I spent some time, like I said, downloading and organizing some stuff. And I have not a whole lot going on tomorrow. So I'm going to be catching up on some music. Nice. I liked the first album. Yeah. Yeah, it's not bad. It's pretty good. I'm not a big fan of the goth talking parts on it. I really don't like when Mind Dying Brian does that. But other bands I don't like. Dark and filled with beauty.

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But yeah, other than that, I thought it was pretty good. They have some really good riffs on there. And you know, it's got a good atmosphere to it. I want to listen to it once. So George, I definitely have to soak that bitch in a little bit more. Yeah, I need to listen more to it. I only got through it once. I like that. Soak that bitch in. Get in my paws. Get in there, bitch. Yeah, I mean, when it comes to metal albums, I feel like I have to listen to them at least three times or something.

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to form a good opinion or at least, you know, an acceptable opinion.

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An opinion.

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Yes.

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All right.

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So let's move on to something else.

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What will it be?

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Who knows?

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This is a crazy episode.

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I think it's going to be the Thunderdome results.

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All right. Sounds good, George. So last episode, I foolishly pitted Anthrax's Among the Living against Overkill's Taking Over. Oh, shit. Yeah, I don't even know who won this.

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the episode. Me and John, I think, were the only ones that liked that Overkill album. That's because, you know, John and I are. Really? We're better than the rest of you, but we don't talk about it. And briefly, that came through on the online voting, but ultimately, Anthrax took it 55% to 45%. It's still pretty close, actually, though. Yeah, it was. It's a little closer than I thought. I mean, like one or two more votes would have tipped it, you know? Yeah. Alrighty, then. Are you saying you went into the Thunderdome?

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hoping one would win over the other?

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Well, yeah, because I picked Overkill.

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Yeah, you picked Overkill.

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So it's the voter.

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It's the listeners.

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Yeah, but you, sorry.

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You picked the, you chose the Thunderdome.

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So you went into it hoping that Overkill would win.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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So let's do our pick from the crypt, Markazan.

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My shit's all fucked up.

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I got to scroll up and see what's going on here.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Okay. All right. So as I did on the last podcast, I'm revisiting descriptions. I wrote about albums years ago before I joined the Shere Metal Hedge podcast. So I've been doing a top 25 for about 30 years. So I've written quite a few words on records. I haven't done it for every single year that I've done a top 25, but I just thought it was kind of fun to revisit some of the stuff that I wrote because

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Some of it is not good. I don't think this one's bad, but some of the other stuff I've written is bad. But I'm picking for this one from the archives, Isis Wavering Radiant, released in 2009 on Ipecac Records. This is what I wrote about it back then. With Wavering Radiant, Isis has produced more than just the fifth album in the post-metal genre it helped to define. It has crafted an experience.

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This record is a uniquely inventive and intricate escape of boom and rhythm layered with fugue organs, keyboards, and Kyoto guitar whispers. It's equally graceful and mighty, and it begs you to keep listening as if you're searching tirelessly for meaning or menace or the tree of knowledge in a sexy space orb bound for the sun. Wavering Radiant is my favorite album of 2009,

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And I love doing this too because I go back, I read this description, and I was like, do I still feel the same fucking way? And then I listen to the album again, and then I have this one on vinyl, and I was spitting, I was like, I fucking, I really do this record a lot. So I don't know if I would describe it the exact same way, but it is pretty cool to think that in 2009, this is what I thought of the record. It's been a fun exercise for me.

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Nice. Matt Paradox. Yes. So I chose an album by a band that I saw for the first time two weeks ago, but have been a fan since I was probably 14. I would say this album is their best album. But other purists might think that some of the prior albums are better. I would imagine no one thinks that any albums after are better. Strange enough, George mentioned this band earlier in the episode. I'm strange. It's all good.

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I didn't realize until seeing them live like how much I actually really enjoyed this album and the band themselves. I felt like I would always put this album on when I was angry, which brought up the question of what does a metalhead listen to when they're angry, which to me parallels the question of what does a bartender drink when they're not working? But the album is Psalm 69. The band is Ministry. To me, it's an amazing album. I love it. It's probably the pinnacle of their career. They've released a ton of shit.

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I still really like Filth Pig and I do like the new album and they've done some good stuff. Al has done some good stuff since then. Do you think he'll actually retire? No. He's done it before. Yeah, I feel like he'll take a little bit of a break. As soon as the new election cycle finishes off, he'll be like, God damn it! And he'll just start writing shit. Absolutely. I was like, dude, you have so much content just coming. You don't even know about it. And to be honest, you're right, George.

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I actually liked the new album a little bit more than I thought I did initially. And to be honest, some of the stuff in between, you know, from Phil Pig on, there's some good stuff in there. You know, he's definitely very prolific, but it does. He is just like loads of puns that I think a lot of people just get dissuaded by. But seeing what it is, it's worth looking at if you're a fan. And so it was Frontline Assembly, Gary Neumann, and Ministry. And as I reached out to John, seeing if he was a Gary Neumann fan at all, I didn't know.

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I did not know that he was I mean such a crazy influencer of electronic music. Gary Newman rules. Yeah he was he's still good. Yeah but yeah ministry you know and so ministry they played like five new songs and then Alice I know why you're here you want to hear the old stuff and buy t-shirts and then they went into NWO and they were sold out of t-shirts in my size but it was still a good time so. I have a film picture somewhere. I saw him on that extra bitchy size. Yeah I wish right.

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I would have taken anything in my size, but it was all out. So yes, Psalm 69, do it. The way to succeed and the way to suck eggs. Oh, yes. All right, John. All right, so with my pick, I kept with our theme for this episode, which was Judas Priest. And I went with Judas Priest's album, Sin After Sin. And the reason why I went with this album is because,

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Maybe it's just me that thinks this. I feel like it's somewhat of an underrated album in their catalog. I feel like people gravitate to the more metallic sounding version of the band. And I think a lot of newer fans don't pay attention to a lot of the 70s stuff sometimes. It's not a knock. I just think they like what they like. But I feel like this album kind of gets... I think you know the songs. You know Diss and Aggressor. You know Sinner. But I don't know a lot of people talk about other songs from this album. Like Starbreaker.

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That's my favorite song from the record. Yeah, and I'm glad to hear that. I love this record. And Let Us Pray and Call for the Priest, Raw Deal. I mean, these are some great songs. Sometimes I feel like it just gets overshadowed by so many other albums that are great from them. But I really do feel like this is a great album. And it's also, everyone likes to give Les Banks all the praise in the world, but Simon Phillips preceded him. He was only 19 years old, and he's really the guy who started them on that kind of double bass thing. It wasn't Les Banks. And actually, Simon Phillips was

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to join the band, but he chose not to because of other commitments he wanted to honor. I just think he got really lucky with two great drummers on only three albums when you think about it. I mean, I totally agree with it. I actually like the older Priest from this time period better. Oh, me too. It is more like a rock oriented, but it's not as flashy as the middle period, even the stuff now. And I like that about that, about the band.

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I've always gravitated more towards the older stuff. So that was fun to put Sin After Sin as my number five album cover because I actually really like that record too. And I've been listening to it a lot. You can hear an updated live version of Starbreaker and the expanded version of Unleashed in the East. I know. Which is cool. They get those extra songs because they're all good songs that they added. I'm really hoping on the tour they play, you know, a lot of older stuff like that.

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I know a couple songs because I didn't want to see it. I don't think we're allowed to talk about it. I can tell you now, they're going to play blah and blah and blah. I'll tell you, I know a couple I saw and I was happy. I was like, yes, I haven't seen that before. What did you see? What were the ones you did see? Do you guys care? So I saw that they're playing Rapid Fire, or at least they played Rapid Fire, and they played Genocide. And I was just like, get the fuck out of here. Yeah, there's a couple others that will make you happy too that I've seen. And I think they're

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I think they're selling some stuff in, taking stuff out. Supposedly this is the deepest they've ever gone. And the reason for it is because they have Richie in the band, but they have a drummer who can play this stuff. Really? When did they get a new drummer? I actually heard Glenn say that he said that maybe they shouldn't have gone with the more standard drummer in the 80s because a guy like Scott Travis could do more, at least on the bass pedals, which seems to have driven. I mean, I would like to hear him. I want to see Free Will Burning

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with him playing that. Yeah. So I have, they pulled that out. I have, I've never seen it. No, I think they played it on the, Oh, I'll have to look, but I don't think I've ever seen them play that. So anyway, I don't want to keep going on about the Scott Travis podcast. All right. His glasses are on. It's serious. I don't even know why I have them on. Cause I don't really need them. It's sexy. You guys look better. You guys look better blurry. Thank you. I called an audible and,

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I was inspired by Paul Bearer, weirdly enough, but I picked from the Crypt is Foundations of Bird by Paul Bearer. Man, that is just, it is such a heavy album that I almost feel like I'm glad it has clean singing on it because if it had any harsh vocals on it, it would be so heavy that it would warp the space-time continuum and create a black hole right in the middle of Little Rock, Arkansas. I mean, it is so heavy. I love that album so much.

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And this goes up there with Mars the Sirius and the Viath. And you have these tremendous albums by these bands. And then they just, and the bands over time, and I won't even mention the fucking Black album, but I just did. And, you know, over time, your heroes just change direction. You don't necessarily like it. And you're just like, oh, you missed the good old days. But man, Foundations of Burn, that opening little medley and riff to Worlds Apart is just so fucking heavy.

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I love it. That's a great record. All right. I'm going for kind of a weird choice here. I think I actually did something by this band once for our Rocket from the Crypt. Rocket from the Crypt. That's a band. Rocket from the Crypt. Nice. Thank you. But I'm going to go with a little bit of a weird one. Dope Throne is a big well-known record by Electric Wizard. Yeah. And a great record and everything. I've been known for some various different favorites. They made a record, two records after that called We Live.

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That is probably my favorite Electric Wizard record. I don't expect even you guys to really kind of know what songs are on there. There's like a great song on there called Echo Echo Azarach, which is so cool. I definitely have that album. It's great. And probably my favorite song, probably one of my favorite Doom songs of all time called Saturn's Children is on there. It's just a super strong Doom album that came out in the middle of the whole Doom rehash thing that people easily could have missed, but it's fucking great. Electric Wizard, we live.

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Nice. Highly recommend it. If you're looking for some Doom. This is good. They've been putting out records for Record Store Day the last, I would say, two or three years. Remastered. Because they're like the original rehashed Doom band, in my mind, and at least one of them, probably one of the bigger ones. They play some pretty big shows, and they were here for some festival thing, I think South by Southwest or something, and they came and played the fucking Warfield in San Francisco. Sold it out.

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What is their last album, Jay? Do you remember? I think it was that. It's not Witch Cult today. It was that Wizard Bloody Wizard. And that was 2017. So it's been a while. Yeah, it's been a while. So we'll have to see. I mean, they're not inactive. They're still around, but that's when bands get older, they just take longer to put out records. They're all probably out there living their lives and making money how they actually make money. But as wizards, my pick from the crypt.

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called Cemetery and their 1993 album Godless Beauty. It's a Swedish band. They were on Black Mark Productions, which in case you don't know, was the Bathory label. And so the first album was kind of death metal. And I believe this was the second album. And it was their death on its way to becoming gothic. It was a transitional album. It's mostly

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He's really deathy, but the vocals aren't quite as harsh. They're harsh, but he's like trying to figure out how to sing. And this has always been my favorite album by them. I liked them when they went gothic. You know, he went completely like clean singing and it was okay. They did some cool stuff. And he eventually changed band names to Sundown, which was actually one of the cemetery album titles. They have an album called Sundown.

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and just drifted away and got lost in the ether. But Godless Beauty, it's a great album. It's like, it's death metal, but it's not so death metal that like people that aren't into death metal couldn't get into it. You know what I mean? It's death light. Death junior. Yeah, no, I mean, this was a transitional album for me as well because, you know, I mean, I got this when it came out and I was like, huh? Yeah. All right.

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I can dig this. It's kind of harsh, but kind of understandable at the same time. And, you know, you never hear about this band. So I'd be surprised if any of you have ever heard this album. It's kind of a no-brainer on a title. I mean, of course there's a band called Cemetery. There has to be. So, yeah, I'll check them out. Yeah. And it's spelled wrong. It's T-E-M-E-T-A-R-Y instead of E-R-Y. Okay. All right. I'm interested. I'll do it for you,

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Thank you, George. Thank you, buddy. Everything I do, I do it for you. Markisan Adams. All right. She's long gone from the cast, but our thanks again to Alyssa for spending time with us tonight. That was cool. Yeah. Oh, we still have one more thing to do. Oh, yeah, that's right. One more thing. Okay. T-shirt and beer check. T-shirt and beer check. T-shirt and beer check. Right. Aw.

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Put it at the very end just to be that way because we're doing shit all different. But it's cool though because we can actually talk about all the beers. I mean, I had two beers. Yeah, but three. I had a big beer. All right. I get to go first. So I am wearing very proudly my control denied shirt. Nice. Hold it. So I think they put out like a re-release remaster a couple years ago, a year ago. And I picked that up and I also got the shirt.

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because I was like, oh, the shirt's cool. So I'm pretty happy with that. Really wish they would have done more Control Tonight. It was such a good record. All right. So the first beer that I had is a quadruple Belgian called the Strafe Hendrick. Behold it. That's a great beer. Oh, my God. It was so good, John. Any beer with a man in the moon on it? It's my vote. All their stuff is good. Behold the moon. Yeah, it was really good. It's a big bottle.

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Obviously. Three beers. Big bottles. And I followed that up with the... What is this called? Night Witch? I think it's called Night Witch from Lupulin Brewing. Oh, yeah, from Lupulin. Yeah. Oh, Lupulin. Yeah, that's my next to the woods. This is good. I believe it was for the women aviators. World War II? I don't remember. Maybe Will knows about this. I think that was four. It was good. It's a stout.

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What did I have in here? Imperial Stout in Woodford Reserve. That's good stuff. Double brewed bourbon and Heaven Hill barrels. Okay, cool. It was strong and it was very good. I only had one of them and I got it from Tavor. Sweet. Matt. All right. I am wearing a Gorguts long sleeve. I purchased this from Luke.

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I drank a 2023 barrel-aged Krampus in the rye.

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From the brewery around the corner from me.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Nice.

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John.

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For once, I want to hear someone say damn crooked.

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Damn semi-straight crooked.

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All right.

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So Will's going to have a disparaging look on his face when he hears what I drank, but let me finish.

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So my first beer was from Great Notion Brewing, and it was called Ghost of Juicy Past. However, the Ghost of Juicy Past is a crispy West Coast style IPA, and I could see right through it. I was like, this name is just driving me nuts because it's a regular IPA, and it's actually really good. And then I had a standard, which it's too bad we're doing this now, but I had a Black Butte porter from Deschutes.

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Which is from Oregon. I know it would have been kind of cool to say it earlier, but it's not a big deal. But Deschutes always makes good stuff and Black Buttes. I don't care what it says about porters. Yeah, I wish Alyssa would have had drinks. She told me she had a gluten intolerance. I told her we do beer check. I was like, listen, you don't have to drink beer. She's like, I'll try to find a gluten beer. It's like, you don't have to drink. You don't have to drink beer. We've done everything from bourbon to fricking tap water on here. Just drink whatever you want. And coffee. But I always like to go back to standard.

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that I think some people have forgotten over the years because there's so many beers out there now. So yeah, that's a good one, man. You know, it's eight o'clock now, Jay. You could crack a beer. They are cold. I've got in the thing for tonight. I'm here. I buy my beer from the store close by and they have all they have are these tall boys. So I buy two of these tall boys. One's the Voodoo Ranger Imperial IPA and the other one's just the Voodoo Ranger IPA. So those are my two cold ones. Oh my God.

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I need to get on Tavor. Is it eight or nine there? Do you have? Oh, it's only eight here. Okay. I didn't know if you, because you're in Arizona. No, because we changed our time now. So now we don't do anything. But you don't do anything. Yeah. It's not time-based. Gene's in Tucson tonight, which is fine, actually. I mean, because, you know, we're together 24-7, so that's not so bad. But I'll be watching. I got two ice cold beers and I've got the Tall Boys and I've got this Don Julio tequila that I really like.

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All the documentaries? No, I'm going to sit down and watch episode two of Three Body Problem, actually. I'm literally starting to anticipate all of those things I just mentioned right now. I'm getting very excited. Pay attention, Jay. Anyway. I know. I'm not surprised that's your advice because... I really need the rest of you guys to watch this because we're going to have to talk about it. Will, are you drinking anything?

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stuff from Treehouse and one of the things he sent me was this Cupid's Barrel Age Cold Brew Coffee. Not alcoholic. No, it has no alcohol in it. But I was kind of hoping for a little bit more. It actually tastes like coffee. Is it iced coffee? It's iced. Yeah, it's like cold. It looks like a beer, but it's cold brew coffee. I buy those. I get blue bottle. It's fucking good. Yeah, that's what I had. Yeah, nothing exciting. And I'm wearing my Bond Ripper

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I think I wear every year to Decimal Fest. And underneath that, you're wearing lace paintings. Oh, underneath this, you guys will hate this. I'm wearing my Philadelphia Flyers shirt. I took my kids to the Caps Flyers game the other day. I got free tickets from through Williams baseball team. Doesn't matter about the story. But anyway, God, Caps Fats suck. Yeah, we do. I know I'm there with my kids in Flyers gear,

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They just beat the best team in the league

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with the Bruins today, but they lost to the fucking Capitals.

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And God, this Caps fan. Every time I've been there,

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it's a horrible experience with Caps fans.

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I understand that.

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You know, I was there.

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And this is coming from a Philly fan.

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Yeah. No. Yeah, that's true.

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But I was at a Caps Rangers game.

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And man, the Caps fans were just dicks to the Rangers fans.

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I'm like, I don't like the Rangers either, but come on.

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You know, they had to bring security in to deal with the fact that these Rangers fans were being harassed. I was like, shit, it's not cool. Yeah, it was bad. It's not like they're the penguins. I know you're talking about fans. Screaming in our ears like as loud as they could just the whole fucking time. Yeah. Cursing up a storm. Got my kids there. I mean, they've heard all this stuff before, but it's just really, do you have to? Yeah, it's not cool. I know we're talking about fans, but Jesus, the fucking shark sucks this year. Oh, I can't. I'm having a hard time watching. I just want baseball season to start.

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So you're all right.

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I'm switching my lead just to the Giants because the A's are fucking skipping town,

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even though I don't live there anymore.

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They're still there this year, right, though?

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Yeah, a couple years.

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Like 25, 26.

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They got to build that stadium first.

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But Giants kind of, Giants got Bob Melvin and Matt Chapman,

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so I can cheat now and be like, yeah, they got some of the key A's kind of things there.

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So it's not like a total traitor situation on my part.

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All right.

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So I mentioned I've got the Voodoo Rangers for as soon as I get off the cast. Sorry not to drink with you guys. And as mentioned, I've got the big British Steel shirt on today in honor of our top five. Yep. All right. I'm wearing my Sisters of Mercy shirt, as mentioned earlier. And just to piss Will off, I've got the Sierra Nevada Hazy Little Thing IPA that I started with. Sierra Nevada actually does some pretty good stuff for being the size of brewery.

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that it is.

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That's actually the thing that drives me nuts is Sierra Nevada should be like the last brewery that needs to be chasing hazy trends.

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They don't have many though.

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They only have a couple.

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That's true.

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They have so many great IPAs.

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I know.

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That's my point.

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Like they're like one of the original like great IPA breweries.

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Yeah.

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The haitier the better.

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I say.

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Fuck no.

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I don't have a problem with it.

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But so then next I have Merciless.

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I don't know if it's Merciless or just Merciless and they listed it twice.

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But it's called The Veil and it is a hazy double IPA. Nice. It was pretty good. And then, at least this one's kind of nerdy, this is an Equilibrium double IPA. Oh yeah, Equilibrium. Yep. Called Return of the Juice or Return of the Jedi. They're on Tavor a lot. Yeah. I saw the lightsaber and I was like, mine. Yeah. We can get them locally here too. They're good. Yeah.

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They're decent. Yeah. Yeah. They got some good stuff. They just, they did a collab with Parrish and I've got six versions of Ghost that I'm going to do days in a row. By the way, there's this museum right next to me here and it's called the Chiricahua Desert Museum and it's really just put together by this guy, but it's a pretty class act. But what it really features is reptiles. He's got scads of rattlesnakes and shit.

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And so he's collected everything to put in there that also has snakes on it and stuff. And there was this project where they were trying to raise money for some snake organization, whatever the fuck. And so they did all these famous guys who collect snakes and they had one beer. He had a beer bottle there for one called Black Mamba and it was Kerry King, the Kerry King beer. Nice. I don't know if any of you guys ever had Black Mamba, but it's out there. No, I've never heard of it. It's Kobe Bryant's foundation to allow that to happen. Yeah, I'll take a picture of it next time I'm over there.

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I saw Black Mamba when I was in Africa one time. That thing was fucking huge. Yeah, those things will kill you, man. I know. But Jay, the most important question is, does this museum have the Mattallian or Chupacabra? You know what? I'll go back and look a little more carefully. Because come on. We are now at the end. You guys are all so handsome. It's nice to see you. It's true. Likewise.

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You know what? Decibles coming up super fucking fast. Three weeks. Yep. I will admit that I thought for a second I might just show up, but I'm not gonna because we're going to go to Mexico in May. But I'll catch you at the next thing. Yep. Our money is actually pretty good. We've settled in here to see like how much money do we have and we're fine. Like I have money left every month. You know what I mean? Just bought a fucking Jeep for fuck's sake. So I'll make it out to the next thing. Nice. All right. We'll see y'all next time.

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By the time we record the next episode, we will have been to Decibel. So we will talk about that next time. Thanks, fellas. All right. Good night, guys. Have a good Sunday. Sleep well. Good night. Bye.

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I'm on the

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