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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, metal's my religion, and yeah, it's my dome. Standing in the thunder on stage in the pouring metal rain. What a feeling, baby, the lights are exploding.

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Hello and welcome back to the Metalheads Podcast.

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My name is George. This is Buke. This is Jay. And we are back again for another episode. We just had the privilege of speaking with Mike Hill from Tombs. And we're going to play that interview for you in a moment. But before we do, any thoughts, guys, on the interview? I want to say, first off, Jay, he sounds badass. He kind of does, doesn't he? That's why I kind of, I mentioned I thought he might have a Brooklyn accent because I thought, well, he sounds like a guy I wouldn't necessarily want to cross, you know what I mean? Yeah, you were hearing this interview,

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or if you're going to play it after, however you're going to do it, George, that Jay and I both twice, while it was a great interview, fucking swung and missed hard a couple times. Yeah. Yeah. I think you had to be very particular about the way you phrased things. We're a little more loosey-goosey, so, you know. Overall, you know, I think he was. Extremely nice guy. Yeah, I think he was cool with it, so. Give us his time on his Saturday. He gives us an exclusive, probably. Yep, yep. Let's go.

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And it's just nice to talk to a guy that we are all fans of too. So that was cool. Definitely all big fans. So I guess without further ado, let's play the interview. This is the Metal Heads podcast. My name is George. This is Buke. This is Jake. We are here today with Mike Hill from the band Tombs. How you doing, Mike? I'm doing awesome. How's everyone doing? We are doing well. We're doing great. Hey, Mike, first thing, George and I have to ask, we are at Maryland Death Fest. Has the Death Fest hangover wore off?

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I didn't have a hangover because I very rarely drink alcohol.

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Okay.

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Did you mean?

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Well, I was actually going with the sense of four days worth of music, sun, heat.

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More of a metal hangover.

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Well, I can never get enough metal, so I'm not hungover at all either.

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I have a high tolerance.

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We only did two in the year and we were beat.

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Fortunately or unfortunately, we were only there for one day,

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So I didn't get the full impact of the whole festival. There were bands I wanted to see on the other days, but just our schedule only allowed for us to be there one day. Okay. Did you check out any of the other bands the day you were there? Oh, 100%, man. Well, first and foremost, Neurosis were amazing as usual, though I could have used another hour of music from them. Definitely. But I understand that there were some constraints. Winter were awesome. I'm a huge fan of them for over a decade at this point.

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I also had never seen Prodial and that was a band I was looking forward to seeing. Demo Litch obviously was great. And yeah, all in all, the day was really cool, man. It was a lot of fun and I got to meet some people and catch up with some friends I haven't seen in a while. So it was awesome. Excellent. Talking to a lot of fans out in the parking lot and the days leading up to it, you guys were on the tops of many lists that

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People were excited to see it. It was our first time seeing you. You guys coming out with Savage God there, fucking set the tone for that whole day. Awesome. I'm glad. Seeing you guys, I'll just make it known right now that George and I, your guys' album was, where do we have it, George? Two or three album of the year? It was number two last year, yeah. Trypticon was the only thing that topped you. I would have to agree with that, that Trypticon is definitely better.

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I always keep problem. It was tough though. I mean, but pretty much all, as soon as both those albums came out last year, Trypticon and Savage Gold, I was like, boom, this is what's going to be it for the year. And it just rode the whole year out and nothing could topple it. I got to save face too and tell you, I wasn't actually on the pod last year, which is why you weren't on my top list because I didn't have a top list, but huge Savage Gold fan, huge Toombs fan. So you're talking to three guys who are really into your stuff, man.

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Yeah, we're going to nerd out on you. Oh, cheers. Thank you. I know you got your band is from Brooklyn. You sound like you're actually from Brooklyn. No, I'm not from Brooklyn. I've been living here for quite a while. I grew up outside the city. I'm a suburban guy. I'm not a born and raised Brooklynite. The proof that I know nothing about accents. Yeah, no, it's cool. I grew up in the Hudson Valley.

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So at Death Fest, Buke and I, we were like dead center, front row, right on the rail, looking up at you the whole time. And I couldn't help but think, I don't know if you probably didn't recognize, obviously you wouldn't recognize us, you don't know us, but you might have looked down and go, look at those two guys just kind of stand on there staring at me, not banging their heads or anything. And I don't know. It was partly awe, I think. Partly I've been doing this a really long time and I just don't,

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My bones are too old. I'll step in and say this for

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George. And we'll get this at the questions later, but

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George, with being into metal for four decades now, is it George?

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Since the 80s. Yeah, since the 80s. Once you heard the Savage Gold record, I remember you calling me saying

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there's something there. I have to ask you, Mike, did you realize

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what you guys had at the time when you sat down to start working on this?

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Not really. I mean, it's just a bunch of raw material when we get to that point. And, you know, it's just what sounds good to us as a band collectively and, you know, what makes it through the quality control filter that we all have. You know, if we like it, then that's all that matters. And really, it's awesome that people enjoy the record. But I never have the kind of ego where I'm like, oh, yeah, this is going to be the next big thing, man.

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I never feel that way about anything. I can always hear little things I could have done better or, you know, like, man, if I had another, you know, day, I would have nailed this better or if I had another, you know, week or so, I would have done this differently. But, you know, it's, I never

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of the songs. So it's really hard to... I watched a video a couple nights back just trying to get all the tunes that I could leading into Death Fest. Didn't you guys, correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't it Savage Gold, the track that you said you got the riff for that when you were doing a sound check? Yeah, actually, well, the first song, well, there's the intro and then there's Thanatos. Yeah, Thanatos, I'm sorry. Yeah, the Thanatos riff that we wrote

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I was sort of playing around with that riff on a soundcheck and then we just ended up using that as the song we checked with. So it wasn't really a song, it was just a riff. That main riff was something I kind of came up with on the spot and we just did it in soundcheck and I remember like practice later that, you know, a couple weeks afterwards, we were just like, what was that riff you were playing? Glad you don't drink or maybe that riff could have been gone for the ages.

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It's not that I don't drink, man. Every now and then, I have some kind of craft, expensive beer. That's us. We're doing a metal podcast here, but we're sitting here drinking fancy craft brews. Yeah, man. I appreciate the finer things in life. It's not like I'm against it or anything. Everything in moderation. That's kind of my ethos there.

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I had another day for this and that, which I think is a common theme when recording an album. But do you mind if I ask how much time did you have to record the album? We had about two weeks to do the tracking and probably another three weeks where Rutan spent mixing and editing and cleaning everything up and editing out all the guitar noise between. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of little tedious things. Rutan, number one. Eric Rutan is probably the most meticulous

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I've ever worked with in my entire life.

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And he brings out the...

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Well, a bit of a legend, too, isn't he?

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Yeah, he's a legend.

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And his approach to the whole project was, like, meticulous.

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That's the only word that comes to mind when I think of Eric Rutan.

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And, you know, he spent a lot of time, like, just, you know, there's, like, you can hear, like, little noises here and there.

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He pulled all that stuff out, so it's, like, the super clean recording.

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And, you know, he just put it all together in the mix.

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And that took about another, you know, two and a half, three weeks or so.

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So all in all, it's about five-week project. Go ahead, George. Well, I was going to kind of jump into something deep and personal, to be honest with you, which I was, I think we all, I know I do, and George, and I'm sure you do, we all have copies of the album on vinyl. Yes. And it's helpful to have the nice liner notes and lyrics, and I spent a little time with the lyrics, and also I noticed the album is dedicated to the memory of two people. Yes. If you wouldn't mind talking about that a little bit, and I'm,

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I'm assuming that since it's the memory of two people, they're no longer with us, and also there seems to be a lot of themes of death on the album and the great beyond, so please.

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Yeah, I feel like I'm out of turn speaking about those two, because they're not really, I mean, other people would be better informed to talk about them, but generally, yeah, there was, the lead up to that record, there was the specter of passing on to the next realm was like lingering.

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And I mean, I just don't feel like it's my place to speak out about some of that stuff right now, but I can give you an overview of what the situations were. Because I'm not sure how much, you know, the people involved really want that information out there. But yeah, I mean, there was, right up to the recording session, there was a possibility of somebody passing on, and we were definitely in the grips of that whole thing.

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So that's why the record's dedicated to the passing of two people.

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And I'm assuming, are the lyrics influenced by that then?

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Well, the lyrics, in a sort of universal way, I guess they are, because I started writing those lyrics.

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I mean, my process involves notebooks and journaling and stuff like that.

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So the lyrics were something I've been working on for probably years since we did the session for Path of Totality.

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So, I mean, those themes were something that are always like, something I always meditate on is like, you know, death, these changes of state, those kinds of things. But, you know, maybe in a more of a cosmic sense, the two things sort of converged together. And there was this sort of continuity between, you know, the overall arc of the cosmos and like the things that I was working on. And maybe they all came together. You know, that's the only way I could really describe that.

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Oh, that's very clear, too. Yeah, that sounds, well, thanks for sharing that, man. I mean, I know those are deeply personal things, but, and it seems like a deeply personal record to me. It's personal, but in some ways it's something I think that it's more, it can, other people can relate to it, you know, it's personal because some of the things that motivated the writing of the songs is personal, but also the experiences are something that are pretty universal, I think. Right on.

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I've got sort of a long-winded career-spanning question that I wanted to hit you with. Sure, man. All right. So as a fan of all three albums, I decided to go back and sit down and play them back to back to back to just sort of get an impression of how things have changed over the years. And so I wanted to hit you with my impressions of just a quick sentence description of how I see each of the three albums and the changes between them. And then I'd like you to tell me how full of shit I am.

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And tell me what you really think about each of these. So Winter Hours, I felt like had a very post-metal, post-hardcore sound. The production was a little brighter than the next album. Path of Totality sounded a lot darker to me, a lot like the black metal element was becoming more prominent, and the production was kind of ethereal and almost foggy. It was a very big sound.

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But then Savage Gold, when that came out, was much cleaner and tighter sounding, possibly the Rutan influence. And it definitely sounded more matured and maybe even a little more progressive and experimental. I noticed that the lead guitar work seemed to be a lot more in your face than before. Yeah. So I guess, I mean, how do you feel about these descriptions of these albums and would you describe them differently? No, I think you're pretty right on with all that stuff. I mean,

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When I went around, I was definitely exploring more, like you were saying, kind of like the post-metal, post-hardcore vibe. But I think that I find that to be pretty limiting, what you do sometimes. I like that expression, but at that particular snapshot of where we were at in our career, that was something we were all interested in exploring.

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I think that Path of Totality is almost a transition record between that record between Winter Hours and Savage Gold because it's like the expression more like you know elements of darkness and there's a you know a blackened vibe to it but the production I don't think captured that as much as it did on Savage Gold and that was like a transition like a step between what we were trying to express on Winter Hours

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And actually the EP that came before that too was very much in that realm. And where we're at with Savage Gold. And Savage Gold was like, one of my biggest criticisms of the way the first two records sounded was that the drums weren't as attack oriented. And it didn't punch as hard and there wasn't as much of an impact. And I felt that that was really one of the reasons why we wanted to work with it.

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because he's like a master at that sort of thing. Was he someone you or the band searched out, Mike? Did he hear you guys' stuff would come to you? I definitely searched him out. He was someone that I'd been wanting to work with for a long time. And coincidentally, right around the time that I contacted Eric, he actually had become aware of the band. And he was like, yeah, you know, this sounds really interesting. It's something different for me. And there was like definitely,

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an interesting period when we were discussing what we wanted to accomplish on the album, because I think Eric, only having heard our other records and not having spoken to us individually, probably thought we had something else in mind than what we actually wanted to do. So that was a really cool period of like, you know, this is our demos, you know, we're looking more for this kind of sound, yet we want to, you know, maintain some of these other elements from the other records. And so, I mean, that Savage Gold

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is definitely more of what we collectively are looking for as a creative kind of statement.

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You know what I mean?

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Okay.

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Can I ask you this?

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Your keyboardist, has he been in the band the whole time?

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No.

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Okay.

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I tell you what, that guy's energy on stage, forgive me for not having his name right now,

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you and him combined with the vocals and stuff and you guys' stage presence, what an onstage scene that was.

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Goosebumps.

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Yes.

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That's great, man. I mean, he's, he's, uh, that's his name is Fade Kaner. Okay. He's been involved with a lot of different things. Uh, right now, currently he has like a one man project called Static Bloom. That's, uh, you know, more in that sort of industrial electronic, like extreme electronics, uh, did a tour with corrections house, uh, late last year. And, uh, he's that still, he's still totally active with that. And, and then the band element, you know, he's, he's a member of tombs full time. And, um, he joined up late last year.

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Last year, after we finished the Paul Bearer tour, we started working together and we have about an EP's worth of material that we've written together. And that's the first half of the set was mostly all the stuff that's brand new. That's cool. Well, you know, I would love to hear about that Paul Bearer tour a little bit and also what you guys got coming up too. Yeah, definitely. The Paul Bearer tour was something we got offered, you know, mid last year and the tour happened.

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in the fall, late fall. And it was, I would say, a half U.S. tour. We didn't go out to the west coast with them. It was broken up in two different legs. And the first leg in the eastern half of the country we did together. And it was a lot of fun. I didn't know those guys personally prior to that. And they were really cool guys. And we had a good time on the road. And another really cool thing was meeting the band Vatnet Viscar. I heard nothing but great things about them at Marinox.

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And they're awesome. They're great. And they're probably more in line with the kind of stuff I listen to than Paul Bearer is. So I enjoyed their set every night. And I really, really, you know, enjoyed getting to know those guys as people. And they're actually going to be here in Brooklyn tomorrow. So I'm going to see those guys tomorrow at the point with Team 49. Yeah, the tour was great. You know, it was fun. Awesome. Speaking of bands that you like, when I listen to a Toombs album, I got to wonder,

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of the things that you grew up listening to that led you down this path. May I also quickly hop on that? I saw on a Spotify playlist, your first song on there is a David Lynch song. Does that go back to a childhood thing maybe for you? Maybe some influence from your mom or dad or something? No, no. I love David Lynch's stuff, man. I was way into him my whole life. As soon as I rebelled it, that whole thing.

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You know, it's, um, all right. Yeah. As far as what I, I mean, that soundtrack music recently, I mean, specifically now I'm way into listening to soundtracks. I mean, John Carpenter, uh, like I just picked up the Halloween to, uh, death waltz, um, LP. And, uh, you know, they put out that, you know, death waltz puts out all these like cool, you know, remastered soundtracks and, you know, the beyond the black rainbow soundtrack, you know, altered states like that stuff. I'm listening to a lot of that kind of music these days, but.

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To get back to your original question, really, for me growing up, my first love has always been metal. And it was like Black Sabbath, Scorpions, Led Zeppelin, except then the more extreme stuff like Celtic Frost, Metallica, Slayer, Thrash, Metal, Exodus. And then it was punk and hardcore, mainly because the first time I heard punk and hardcore, I was like,

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I don't have to be that great of a guitar player to play this stuff.

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That's the way I felt when I heard the Ramones.

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Yeah, the Ramones were the first punk band I ever heard of them.

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And then it all came down to me hearing Black Coffee by Black Flag one day.

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And that was like, okay, this is like a game changer.

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It's actually possible, right?

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Yeah.

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You know, that was a game changer, like the intensity of that song and the guitar solos.

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And to me, it was like Fast Black Sabbath.

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And you can't go wrong with that.

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So those are kind of like the elements, the key elements of like the early music I listened to when I was a kid. And then as I got older, you know, the stuff that I really gravitated towards was things like, you know, Swans and Joy Division and Bauhaus and, you know, Fields of the Nephilim, you know, Christian Death, like bands like that. You know, because the imagery of, you know, the sort of extreme metal imagery with like death and skulls and, you know, darkness and all that stuff fit really nicely.

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with Bauhaus and Swans and Christian Death and all that stuff. Then it was death metal and then black metal and now the stuff I'm into now. I see you prominently have your Emperor sticker on your guitar there. Yeah, I saw that. Oh, yeah. You're also, too, there's a piece online, too, that you're a fan of Godflesh, their street cleaner album. Oh, yeah. I can't forget. I don't know how I forgot that.

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When I got into death metal, I was having this conversation recently. There was an article that came out, I think it was Spin, that talked about death metal in the late 80s or early 90s. I read that and it covered basically all of the earache stuff. They mentioned God's flesh and Napalm Death and Morbid Angel. That's how I got into death metal, honestly, was reading a Spin article, ironically. The last place you'd probably expect to read that. Oh, yeah. Back then, they covered

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They actually covered real stuff.

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And now, I remember Godflesh was one of the first "extreme" death metal, even though it's not a death metal record,

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records I picked up.

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And I got Scum and Godflesh Street Cleaner.

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And Scum, I didn't really get it at first.

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I was like, "Oh, this is cool, but I don't know."

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And then I put on that Godflesh record and I was terrified.

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I was like, "Listen to this."

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I'm like, "I don't even know if I like it, man.

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I know that this is like there's something here but I don't know if I like it or not and then over the course of those following weeks it kept like coming up in my subconscious like yeah this is like something you know. It's like watching a car accident you want to look but you don't. Yeah and then like about a month after I bought the album I was like pretty much all in with Godflesh and that was ever since then I've been a huge fan of theirs. To kind of just bring us back to the Savage Gold for a minute here because I'm kind of staring at my copy.

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Do you have any comment on the cover art and the art on the album in general? We have the gatefold. Can you talk about that a little bit? There's the symbol on the back, which I'm interested in, but also this sort of cube on the front. I wonder what's the concept there exactly. Well, Thomas Hooper is our guy who does all the paintings for the album covers. Basically, the way that artwork happens is I send Thomas my lyrics and little writing pieces and just bits and pieces of images.

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stuff that I think is cool. And then I sent him demos of the songs and then he sort of spits out a bunch of ideas that he comes up with through listening to that material. And the Cube, when he sent me that stuff, I was like, the stuff just all resonated with me on this level. And that's the symbol on the back is our signature symbol. That's something we've been using since winter hours.

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It's sort of our identity. We identify our stuff with that symbol. So that's why it's on the album. It's on pretty much all of our stuff. When I saw the Cube, my impressions of it were with the album lyrical content having to do with passing into different realms of consciousness and different realms

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of reality. Like that cube to me represented the borders of what our known universe could possibly be. And then there's another infinite number of other fractal universes that exist outside of that cube. And then we're just like one tiny section in like a continuum of alternate realities and things like that. Can I just say that this fulfills all of my, I'm 44 years old, but this fulfills all of my 15 year old dreams to sit here and

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I just stare at this record cover while you talk about it. That's just such a satisfying thing. And I'm glad it wasn't such a thoughtful process, you know what I mean? For just a moment, it was like what Rick Rigg said, well, here's why I did that. I'm a member of the B-10. So thanks for doing that. That was very cool. And I have a few kind of about that coffee, too. Yes, yes. If you go on, I saw, correct me if I'm wrong, your guys' band camp page. I think maybe your website, Savage Gold Coffee. Are you a coffee connoisseur?

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I'm a guy who loves coffee, yeah man. My whole life I've been drinking coffee. In the last couple of decades and a half, you can actually get really, really quality coffee now. So pretty much anywhere. It's always been a huge interest of mine. With today's environment, having something online is pretty much the way to go these days. Did you actually go out to the fields and meet with farmers and select beans? Do what you see on TV, get a handful of beans?

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You know, taking a real deep breath with them and smell them? Not yet. That's a goal. Let's make it fucking happen. That's the end. Also, I think we could play. You should be piping your music over the plants, man. You know what I mean? Just to really, really drive that Savage Gold thing home. So can you order that coffee online? Yeah, you can go to the website, savagegoldcoffee.com. You can either order it or you can join this club.

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where I send it to you every month. Nice. I'm definitely going to check it out. Yeah. I'm also looking to open up a spot out here. I'm actually, you know, the game plan is to open up a couple different locations, you know, in New York State. And, you know, I'm trying to, I'm in the middle of, like, working out, like, a business plan to open up a location in Brooklyn here where you can get the stuff by the cup. And I'm also, you know, trying to, there's a thing here called Smorgasburg. I just met with them about having,

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a stand at their summer thing.

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Is that something you do then?

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You were actually quite literally involved in the roasting and things?

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No, I'm not a roaster.

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My roaster is up in Syracuse.

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He's got Jesse Dano, who is a roast master.

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We came up with the roast profile together,

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We figured out what kind of beans we want to use and that kind of thing. So yeah, I'm just sort of like the business guy, I guess, or the guy who makes it all happen behind the scenes. Right on. Hey, I wanted to kind of turn you on to something, just two things. I mean, I'm sure you've seen a million reviews of your record, but there's a great record store here in San Francisco called Aquarius Records, and they really deal almost exclusively with, well, some extreme metal, but also

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a lot of underground post everything.

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You know what I mean?

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But anyway, this guy writes these wonderfully, insanely obsessive reviews.

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And I had actually bought my copy of the vinyl there.

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And he is completely obsessive.

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He writes with this very small handwriting.

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But he also puts them all on the Aquarius Records website.

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And I really want to suggest, if you get the time, to go to the Aquarius Records San Francisco website and read the review of Savage Gold.

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He was just really well thought out and very kind to it. I just got into the fact that that was out there. That's awesome, man, because I'm a huge fan of that record store, too. I mean, you know, in my trip to San Francisco. Yeah, I've been there a couple times. That's great. I always find something I want to get there. Me, too, every time I walk in. Well, he's a fan of yours, too, apparently, then. Yeah, it's a great shot. Cool. I should say hello to those guys next time. Hey. Yeah, I always find a bunch of stuff.

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experimental things.

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Kind of like, you know, sort of, I mean, it's like vegan folk stuff, you know, like their blue tarsh, like stuff like that.

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Right on.

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Hey, Mike, I, yeah, I'm sorry. I was going to ask him that.

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Go for it.

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I was going to, yeah, Mike, are you a vinyl guy too?

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I am, but I'm not, I'm not opposed to MP3s either.

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I'm not, I travel a lot, so I have to, I can't, you know, carry a record player around.

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Is there one vinyl that you, if anyone's listening, they can help you get your hands on? Your holy grail. Oh, man. Where should I start? One vinyl that I want that I can't get my hands on. Because I feel like, right, these days you can pretty much find anything. Yeah, with the internet and stuff like that. Yeah. Maybe sold at zero. I don't have that on vinyl. The band? No, I'm sorry. The Neurosis. Here we go. Neurosis.

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I just got that one. Did you really? Yeah. Yeah, but you got the broad version though. The one that came out on alternative tentacles is the one I want. Okay. Oh, yeah. This was like a relapse. Yeah. You know, I'm right next door to Oakland, man. I'll keep my eyes open for you. You're probably copy floating around out there. Yeah, I should think. I should think. And we got a lot of good little vinyl stories here. But I'll put that on my little search list because I walk into the shops frequently and if I get it, it'll come your way, dude. Now, you also, for our listeners here,

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If anyone's a fan of mixed martial arts, Mike, you also do a mixed martial arts podcast, correct? Well, it's part of it. I do a podcast that covers mixed martial arts occasionally. Okay. It's the Everything Went Black podcast you can find on iTunes and all these other places, all the other platforms out there. The podcast is not specifically about MMA. It's about guys in bands, friends, jiu-jitsu practitioners,

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guys, like MMA fighters. We talk about, you know, like our old drummer, Andrew, and I break down upcoming UFC events and things like that. And a lot of it also is like, you know, people who kind of combine all these things. Like I had, you know, a judoka slash spiritualist on like recently. And I talked about that and, you know, different stuff. It's not specifically one thing or another. I guess it's like a lifestyle kind of podcast.

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where we talk about music and art, martial arts and training and fitness and things like that.

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- Do you yourself, seeing you up on stage, you're pretty fucking jacked. Do you do pretty intense workouts?

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- I train Muay Thai pretty much every day and I dabble in Jiu Jitsu. I used to be a lot more involved in Jiu Jitsu, but I had an injury recently that's kind of kept me off the mat with that particular martial art for a while.

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But I'll be back doing that over the summer. And, you know, just martial arts keeps me fit, keeps my mind clear. And occasionally I'll throw around some kettlebells and do some deadlifts and things like that. So if the ears start getting messed up, we know that you've taken your training to another level, huh? Yeah, maybe, you know. Hey, what did you think of the last title fight? The two fights, the two title fights in one night. That Chris Weidman fight was pretty nice. Yeah, my money was on one.

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I think that the only guy that might be able to stop him is Luke Rockhold. Luke Rockhold is on a tear. I wasn't always on board with him honestly when he was in Renova. I thought that was kind of like a fluke. I'm going to be honest about that. But over the last couple of years I've grown to become a supporter of his. I like his camp. I think the Saro Longo camp has a lot of really good fighters.

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I just didn't see Vitor stopping him. I mean Vitor's got a lot of mileage. He just came off TRT and who knows like physically where he was at. And I think that fight pretty much played out the way I thought it was going to. The Cormier-Anthony Rumble Johnson fight. Boy he got rocked a couple times. I thought he was going to lose. Oh yeah I thought he was going to get that first shot where Rumble knocked him down. I was like that

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that this might be it yep but I gotta be honest I am Cormier fought the fight that I thought he was gonna fight since he's got a you know wrestling background like he's a wrestler you know with strikes and Johnson though he's a wrestler he's primarily a specialist in boxing and kickboxing and you know the way to neutralize guys who throw kicks strikes is to put him on the ground and smaller just wear them out that's what basically what Cormier did and

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I'm happy to see this champ. It's controversial for sure because he was defeated by Jon Jones. Jon Jones vacayed the title, but it is what it is. He won fair and square and they deemed him to be the champion. We'll see how his defenses go, I guess. That's definitely what we're seeing moving forward here. Mike, we don't want to take up more of your time. Let me ask one last question for me here, Jay and George.

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What are the plans for Tombs moving forward now? Are you guys going to be touring? Do you have any new album writing? I know you guys probably are always writing, always doing stuff, but what's in the pipeline? And also going with that, do you feel any sort of, because I know you said you don't really play to the reviews and all the album of the year lists and stuff like that. Do you feel any pressure to kind of live up to what Savage Gold was in the press?

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Not really. Not really. Not at all, actually. I honestly don't ever read a lot of reviews in general because, you know, I mean, I don't have a very high opinion of music journalism. Just like the whole... Luckily, we're just podcasters, so fuck them. Hey, I don't have a review. There's more validity in this medium right here. You know, because you know what the whole thing is? I'm a big, I say this also, I'm a big video game player. Just like with video games.

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You can hide behind a fucking message board. Type away. When you try and put your words to it or actually talk to somebody face to face, it all goes out the window. Yeah, I mean, and also the minute you're reacting to what you give power away when you start reacting to what people say about you and you let that, like that sort of, I mean, there's one thing. There's people whose opinions I value and they're not journalism people. They're people who are involved in the creation of music and who know about the process, you know, and

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And then journalists in general are people who maybe fail at playing music and this is their way of expressing themselves. That's me. That's short. Yeah, you know, but like, I mean, I'm just being honest. No, that's cool. I mean, my philosophy is that there's so much good music out there that I'm only going to write about stuff if I like it. I don't see any reason to write about something and trash it. That's just, what's the point of that? So I only cover things that I'm excited about.

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and want to say good things about.

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Yeah, I mean, I delve in that world a little bit.

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And when I do write something for a website, it's always something that I care about.

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It's never like I don't get myself all psyched to smash somebody.

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That's not the way I am because music is such a subjective thing.

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Because he can take it out on someone's face later.

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I mean, music is like a personal thing.

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It's like, you know, I like a lot of stuff that people think is cheesy.

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I love docking.

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I listen to the first two LA Guns records all the time. That's not something that most people would probably think is really that cool. But no one's going to say it to your face. They suck because you're big and scary looking. Nah, man. I'm totally cool with people, man. Anyone come up and talk to me, I don't have any problems with anybody. It gets weird when it's online because everyone is a faceless entity out there. That's the one thing I don't like.

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That's why I sign everything. Put my picture up there. You know where to come. So you guys have any more tours the rest of the year? Are you planning any other festivals? Oh yeah, we're doing a Russ Gilda festival in Denmark in July. And that's just like a fly out thing. And I never heard of it until we got offered to do it. And I just thought it was going to be just another type of roadburn style fest. But it turns out that it's actually one of the largest fests, or probably the largest,

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best in Scandinavia. Wow.

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We're not sharing the same stage,

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but the day that we're playing, like, Kanye West

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and Paul McCartney are also playing.

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Well, that's different.

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It's like that kind of thing.

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The stage that we're playing is, like, more extreme.

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Yeah, Mike, wouldn't it be fucking crazy

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if you look over to, like, on the fucking drum riser

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to your right?

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This is Paul just watching you.

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Oh, no, I really dig what they're doing there.

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I would be...

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Although I'm not a Beatles fan,

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I have tons of respect for Paul McCartney. That would make my whole year. That would be fucking amazing. So is there any chance that maybe next year we might see a new record? Actually, I want to tell you, I'll do you a solid. We're actually recording an EP in July after we get back. Yes! There will be some new music available by us this year. Excellent. That's awesome. Then we're doing a Hopscotch Festival in the fall. Actually,

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There's more, very likely that there will be a short tour around that, which will go through Baltimore. Excellent. We'll be in the mid-Atlantic states for a week or two, probably. We'll see if we can make that. Do you have a release date for that? No, actually, this is a pretty low-key thing where I'm just scheduling the mastering, and probably right around Hopscotch Fest is when it's going to be out.

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I don't have any. That's a scoop. You've given us our first scoop ever. That's exclusive. Jay, you have any more? No. I really just want to say thanks. Know that there are people out here listening to your records. We're listening to your records. I think they're great. It's fun to watch your growth. We're so happy that you came on, man. Mike, I'll just echo what Jay just said. Again, we're huge fans. Spending the whole weekend talking to

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at Maryland Death Fest,

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Toomes came up in every single conversation.

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Oh, cool, man.

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So you guys are really doing something special.

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So keep it up.

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And we'll keep spreading the word to anyone that'll listen.

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Yes.

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And more importantly,

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thanks for spending your Saturday here.

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God, that's no problem, man.

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This is a pretty prime time for me.

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I mean, it's not like I didn't have to get up early or any of those things.

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And it's noon, so.

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Can I have one last question?

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"Where's the best place to get Toombs merch? I couldn't find any shirts at Death Fest." The website. Oh, we had a table at Death Fest. Really? We were right next to a grossest. Yeah, as far as getting merch from us online, Relapsed carries our shirts. You can go to our own web store, which I think most people don't know exists, and that's on tombscult.com. And you can also go to Shirts and Destroy and Shirt Killer.

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Well, Shirts and Destroyer, I think, sold out. And Shirt Killer actually has a great, fairly new design that's up that my friend Glenn Smith did for us. And it's a two-sided shirt. And, you know, it's available only there. So it's exclusive to Shirt Killer. I'm assuming that Savage Gold, Double Disc, Gold Discs are all gone, huh? Pretty much. We have copies that we're selling at shows. So, you know. Sure.

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We'll put a couple extra bucks in the pocket. I've got one. Of course you do. Of course, this fucking guy. I think relapses, they repress everything. There's later pressings of the record available still, I think. Right on. I've got to have that gold one, man. I'll find it when you come through. Yeah, I'll see if you've got any left for sure. That second whips again, that was T-Shirt Killer? Shirt Killer. Oh, Shirt Killer. It's a Shirt Killer,

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Cool.

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They have a fairly new, maybe a few months old design that's up there right now.

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Right on.

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Very cool.

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All right.

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Well, I guess we'll wrap this up then.

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Like I said, thanks for coming on.

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Awesome.

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George, you didn't even...

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Mike, I could ask you anything you want to...

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You have to plug anything you want to mention?

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No, I just want to thank everyone.

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I mean, it was this really nice thing you guys said.

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And, you know, I just thank everybody for listening and coming out to the shows.

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It means a lot to all of us. If you guys definitely come up and say hi next time you see us. We're here to fucking kick it every time. Excellent. We'll check out the dates. All right, guys. Thanks. Thanks, buddy. Thanks, Mike. We'll talk to you later. Bye-bye. You got it. Bye-bye. All right. So there you have it. That was our interview with Mike Hill from Tombs. We're going to have to keep our eyes and ears out for that new EP he mentioned. Do you think they'll put out on vinyl?

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That's a good question

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I was wondering the same thing

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We should have asked him

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Yeah, probably

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Everything else is

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Yeah, especially

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Especially since he's on Relapse

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They're pretty good about that

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Yeah

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Jay, you would love their booth

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Relapse Records at Death Fest

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Was a single for 15

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And a double for 20

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Which was a very good price

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Yeah

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An amazing deal

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See Skype's locking up for him

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It went just a little bit

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Yeah

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I'm back now

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Yeah

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I was saying that Relapse

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At Maryland Death Fest

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Was a great deal

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So singles were 15 bucks. Doubles were 20 bucks. Hey man, let's get into it. Let's talk about the death fest. All right. Let's do that. So I think first off, maybe we'll just sort of give our overview. And I know Jay had questions that he wanted to ask us about the experience. But broad view, if you haven't been to Maryland death fest, you should fucking go. It's a great weekend. I mean, we only went to two of the four days. That in itself was grueling. I know the nine circles guys did four days.

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The grueling thing about it was, as George and I were getting home, I'm checking Twitter, and Toombs, sorry, Portal, what's that, from Australia? I don't know. They had not even finished. I don't even think they started yet by the time we got home. They went on at 12.45 at Soundstage, George. That's rough. Holy cow. And what time does that start in the morning? It started in the morning at noon, 12.30? Yeah, around noon.

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Yeah, that's a day. It didn't end until 1.45 Sunday night. Now, like George and I talked about, and you'll hear it at some point for our little recordings at Death Fest, is that like any other festival, it is one band finishes, there's no gap, maybe a minute or two, the next band comes on. It is a wall of noise. Yeah, if you're not wearing earplugs, that's definitely

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Right. But then you walk in, one stage greets you in front of you, huge open parking lot, about like the size of a football field or two. Then to your left, there's another stage there. About 45 degrees off to the left. Literally 50 yards between stages and one band finishes. You just turn. Yeah. You can watch the next. That's cool. That's actually kind of a cool setup though. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you don't have the 15, 30 minute changeovers between sets.

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They did something like that at the M3 festival, but much less successfully because at M3 you couldn't see.

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There's a second stage there.

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It's off in the woods in the back.

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You literally can't see one stage from the other.

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You have to climb up a hill.

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You have to leave the pavilion too, right?

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Yeah, you have to leave the pavilion, go up the hill, go over the back, and then it goes down and then into the woods to see the second stage.

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They were going pretty much back to back as well.

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So if you finished one band, you were going to miss the first song or two of the next band making your way back to the other stage. So it sounds like, well, hey, they got it down to a science then. That's cool. At the Death Fest, man, that's cool. I mean, although it does sound, I have to admit, exhausting. And, you know, the first day, the weather was really nice. So it wasn't so bad. You know, you're drinking beer all day long. Some of us more than others. Yeah, it wasn't that far behind. But then the second day, that heat was fucking grueling.

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It was just wicked. Any chance you could get out of the sun, you had to take it. I napped. I know Corey from Nine Circles took a nap. It just beat it out of you. And, you know, that's how these festivals kind of work now. When a band plays that you really don't really care for, I'm not saying they're bad, you can go back to the car. Yeah, I wanted to check out the Demi Lich set on the second day just because, you know, they're one of those classic bands. They have one album 20-some years ago.

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my understanding.

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But that was just too perfect an opportunity to go take a quick nap.

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Yeah.

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The one thing, though, that I didn't like is it wasn't like barbecue in that with it being the constant wall of music, we weren't able to talk to the number of fans that we were at barbecue.

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Yeah.

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You know what I'm saying?

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There's more.

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The parking lot was it.

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And even then, I don't know how people were getting there because that parking lot wasn't full for as many people that were there. Yeah, that's our little secret there for next year is the parking lot right across the street was not even full. Not even third full. Yeah. And Jay, the cool thing is, sorry George, the cool thing is you can, like when I bought your vinyl, you can walk right out to the car. Yeah. And if you talk real sweet nothings to the security guards like I did, you can,

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your reentry.

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Yeah, we didn't have to go through the line again and get checked out again.

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Very cool.

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You know, that is nice, man.

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And those things matter to make it through a long day like that.

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Like, we had talked about Valken one time, but I don't know.

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Could I really do it?

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You know what I mean?

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I mean, that's sleeping outside.

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Yeah, well, we were talking to Corey from Nine Circles about that because he went last year.

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And after our Death Fest experience, it does kind of sound like Vakken would be the death of us. But, Jay, a cool thing that our friend we met there said, what Corey said, is that there's companies there. Think of like REI here in the States, like an outfitter camping company. You actually go to them and REI would have a tent city there. Oh, you just rent a tent.

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your tent for the days you're there. It's already set up for you. You have a tent number. And just like getting a room out of a hotel, you just go to your tent. That's kind of hip. Yeah. That was one of the things that kind of worried me. I'm like, do I have to buy a tent? And do I have to bring it with me? And how do I have to convey a tent from the United States to Germany? Or do I have to buy one there? Or how does this work? You know me with all the details.

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I need to know where do I poop? You know? Do I have to bring bags? What's going on here? And Corey did say though that there's like what six or seven stages? But when you get to... Twelve actually. Twelve, yeah. When you get to the stages that we see on YouTube, you know the main stages where Emperor and all those bands would play, you maybe, what's he saying, a mile and a half away or something like you're watching it all.

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Half Mile or Mile or something like that. You're watching it on a big screen. Because there's hundreds of thousands of people. Oh, really? 100,000. Yeah, 120. I bet you could spend some cash there, too. I bet they got kick-ass merch tents there and stuff. I'm sure you guys have seen it. It shows up in various movies, like in that Headbangers movie, whatever that's called, Headbangers Journey. I feel like you really got to look at the kind of culture around there, and it looks like a Metalhead's dream. I'd kind of like to go to one where I don't really care

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about most of the bands. So that we could just go wander around and just talk to people. It's this kind of background noise. Yeah. You know, it's like Running Wild would play like they'd like open the show so I could see them finally after 30 years. And then everybody else is like, you know, power metal bands I don't care about. Yeah, you guys got a thing about Running Wild. Who was it that you were a couple episodes ago? You were trying to there was somebody we were talking about. What was it? And you guys were like, had they heard of Running Wild?

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Wild. Who was it? Oh, it was his German ride-along. Yeah, it was my ride-along at work. First off, I said, you ever heard of Wacken? And he's like, yes, yes. I was like, do you listen to metal? No, house music. Yeah. All the German people listen to house music. All European music. I'm going to generalize all European people. Go ahead and tell me to fuck myself. But it's like all the hockey players. They all listen to house dance, electronic music.

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music. Well, hey, they still call their clubs discotheques over there, man. Right on. Jay, speaking about that real quick, are you going to be watching the game tonight? Yeah. We also got to mention that last two minutes of that Chicago game. Jay, I was upstairs. I was like, okay, yeah. I was getting home from work. I said, yeah, Ducks have this one. I went to bed. I checked your Facebook. Holy shit. I got to turn this on. I literally, that was just like coincidence.

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I don't remember what I was doing but I

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I think I was playing guitar and then I

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walked out and I was like I'll turn turn

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on see what's going on with the game

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and I literally tuned in at two minutes

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left which is right when it went insane

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and it was just like in two minutes I

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saw the best hockey game I saw all year

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you know it was so fun so is Boudreaux

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gonna fucking tank it tonight or

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what do you think is it gonna be Blackhawks

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I don't know I don't know fucking Rangers

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are out that's good yeah King Henry

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He couldn't win a game seven. Yep. And we'll see. But the thing is, Jay can't say the fucking Ducks. I can't go with it. He's a Sharks fan. You can't do California teams if you're a kid. Well, I'm rooting for the Ducks. What's that? I'm rooting for the Ducks. Fair enough. Hey, also, you saw we got, I don't know if you guys noticed, but we got a new coach. We got Peter DeBauer. Yep, I saw that. Yeah, so that's cool. Yeah, man, crazy, crazy. Hey, I got, okay, so I want to ask you guys some questions.

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Unless you guys want to throw it. I think they're going to hit the things you would have. Hit him. Hit us with the questions. And these nuts. And these nuts. Got him. First off, I want to know from both of you what your favorite two performances were. Primordial. Oh, of course. And, hmm, it's a tough one. Wow, I thought you guys would have, like, I thought it would be right at the tip of your. Oh, I'm sad. I'm just waiting for him. Just waiting for him. Probably Tombs. Oh, okay.

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Good choice. Right on. I have to go with three. Sorry. First of off, the obvious, Trypticon. You had to be your favorite, right? Yeah, Trypticon was just fucking badass to finally see them. And you got a picture with him, by the way. Yes. Minus Tom Warrior, but yes, the other three members. And I got to say my second favorite was Skepticism, followed closely by Tombs. Tom Warrior doesn't even make the list. That's right. They would probably be.

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They wouldn't probably. They would before. Skepticism was fun. That skepticism blew my mind. They looked awesome. They sounded good. They played the part. But just after being in the heat, I guess, after the long day with the slow funeral doom, I was a little bored. Well, we did go to sleep after that. We did go, I was good. Let's go to the car and take a nap. You don't think it was just a little, ugh. I was tired, yeah. But what kept

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me on my feet was how fucking cool that set was. I checked it out. I went and looked it up because there were some videos online and stuff. And I'm assuming, did you know them before? I did, but it's Funeral Doom. It's slow, it's plodding, it's heavy. But I'd never seen them play before, and I don't think I've ever actually seen a Funeral Doom band live before. And I expected that to be pretty boring, that they just stand there and play slowly.

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But the stage presence that these guys had and what they did with those moments in between were just so cool. And the guitarist kind of looked like George a little bit. You mean my brother. Yeah, your brother. So it gave you some hope that it could happen. It could happen. Okay, I'll move you on. I got a couple more questions for you guys. And one is, did you both discover, did either of you discover anything you didn't know, any bands you didn't know?

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The Serpentine Path, I'm sorry. All right, cool. Yeah, I knew them. I went out and bought their vinyl right after their set. Right on. I'd have to look at the set list of bands. George left Blood Red Throne. You left Blood Red Throne pretty... I know you know of them. It wasn't new. Yeah, I mean, I don't think they're... But you left pretty excited about them. Yeah, they had a good set, and their singer looked like Matt Freeman, our friend Matt. Yeah.

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There was anybody that I hadn't heard before and was like, oh, wow. Yeah. Goatsnake also. But skepticism was a pleasant surprise, so that can be yours. Right, yeah, because just completely unexpected, the stage show that they gave us, it was like, wow. As I mentioned in our field recordings that may or may not ever see the light of day, they were all dressed up like for a funeral. They were in tuxedos, and the singer had

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the white bow tie, like untied.

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And a boutonniere.

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And like, yeah, and he was like slightly disheveled looking like,

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like you might look.

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Forlorn?

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Like you might look right after you got home from a funeral and you're like,

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you're like, you untied it and you're just like, oh my God, this fucking sucked.

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And, you know, they just looked so cool.

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And I like that.

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That's, that shows a little commitment.

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You know what I mean?

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I'm into that.

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I'm sold.

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You know, very cool.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So I do want to know about the merch stuff.

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How is that situated? I know you said relapse had a kick-ass tent. Imagine being able to ejaculate for days. That was the merch area. Probably the first 15, 20 vendors you walk past, each of them had... Sorry, my wallet's fucking huge. The first 15 or 20 vendors you walk past, each of them have...

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Boxes upon boxes of vinyl. What struck me, Jay, was the number of people buying CDs. Extremely interesting. Those ancient and obsolete objects. Yeah, a lot of people were buying CDs. A lot of shirt fenders. A lot of patches, again. Yeah, we plotted what we were going to do to get our vests and patches. Yep, George told me if I do an OPEF backpatch that that's two fucking dipping your toe in,

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I need to go more obscure than that. It's like nobody had any Opeth gear on at this show. And he was like, what's up, man? No love for Opeth. No, I just, I said, I commented. I said, nobody's wearing it. Do you guys ever heard of Opeth? I'm Opeth fan. And then we saw one girl with like the O tattoo on her back of her shoulder and I pointed out he got all excited. That was a tattoo, so that's real. But, Jay, the merch, anything you could want really for the most part,

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Again, the vinyl. They didn't even have your Aussie vinyl. They had just metal. It was all heavy stuff and a lot of obscure stuff that even I've never heard of. Great prices. Was it individual vendors, like guys coming in with huge record collections? Is that the kind of thing it was? No, mostly it was labels. Relapse was there, Nuclear Blast, Gilead. Indie Merch Store, Omega. Yeah, Omega.

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And a couple of just like, you know, online stores, Crucial Blast, stuff like that. Cool. That sounds awesome, man. And that would be just like, I love, I can waste a hell of a lot of time doing something like that. So that's perfect, man. We each dropped a couple hundred bucks in there. You did, yeah. Some on my behalf, which was greatly appreciated. But we'll talk about that when we get to vinyl gets. What about the food and beer situation, that kind of thing? Is there like vendors on site?

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Yeah, it was actually pretty decent. The food prices weren't bad. Even the beer prices weren't that bad. I was expecting to pay like $12 for a beer. You could get a Natty Bo for $6 and a Stella for $8. So we dumped a lot of money at the beer stand. We drank a lot in the parking lot, too. Yeah. I started off Sunday drinking two 24-ounce Coors Lights in like 10 minutes.

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The Circle's guys, Dan and Corey, had some of their brews.

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Did you already know those guys?

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Like I always do, slutting myself out on Twitter.

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How did you know who they were?

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I just followed them. They had done a prior mental podcast.

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Yeah, they used to do a podcast called Horns Up.

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Used to listen to that.

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Did you set it up to meet them there?

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They just said, hey, anybody coming to Death Fest?

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I'm like, we are.

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We like beer.

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Yeah, and so we met up with them.

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Nice guys?

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Yeah, they're good guys. Dan and Corey and Kevin. Where are they from? Dan is from New York. Corey's from Boston. New Hampshire. Yeah. And Kevin is from the Baltimore area, I believe. Wow. All different directions. So not unlike them. They're college friends who knew that they liked metal back in college and they said, hey, let's do a podcast. Yeah. Cool. So it was cool meeting them. Shout out to you guys. And, you know,

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Whenever there was some downtime, we'd head out to the parking lot, see if they were there, have some more beers, discuss things. How many people were there in general? What does that crowd look like? Three or four. Oh, really? I don't know. It seemed like a couple thousand. Not as much as the pictures, as you believe, were there. Yeah, pictures. All of your pictures and videos that you shared with me, I felt like you guys were really able to get a good spot.

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You were never that far from the stage. No, yeah, it was pretty much, it was pretty easy to make your way up to the front if you wanted to. The pits weren't that bad compared to other shows that I've been to. It was surprisingly, you know, you think Maryland, Death Fest, all these pits are going to be fucking horrendous. They weren't that bad. It was pretty easy to avoid. But of course, they come right in front of George and I. Yeah, why is it that every time, you know, they crowd surf to the front, the,

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The security drags them out. They run to the side and they come back in. And they always, every single fucking one of them, has to cross right in front of us. I kid you not. That is a weird phenomenon that happens with me too at shows. I'm always the guy that's standing right at the place where the line to the bathroom or something walks right through. Why I look like the guy you could just walk in front of, I don't know, which is fine. But yeah, weird, man. We're line magnets. Let me see. There's some other stuff I want to ask you. Oh, like what's the area that it's like,

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Located in general, is it like an industrial area or what's the deal? Just a parking lot. Under the bridge downtown. That's where they played some metal. And George and I actually made it out safe after Baltimore had 39 homicides in the month so far. They had eight people were killed that weekend we were there. Eight murders in Baltimore. 39 homicides in one month. What's going on in Baltimore? I don't know. I heard something about some guy got killed or something.

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in the news. No, I'm just kidding. Obviously, there's a lot of shit going on in Baltimore these days. But yeah, I mean, we really didn't see anything. That was it. You guys kind of covered all my questions. I wanted to know about the merch. What does it look like? Where were you at? Sounds like it was nice one day, kind of hot the other. So can we expect you to be participating next year? Yeah, seriously. And more time, you gave me more time. It better be a set list. It will. No, no, no, man. You'd be surprised.

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I show up places. I'm going to come out and go with you. He's like, where's Waldo? It's like, but it's more like, there's Jay. There's Jay. Hey, turn on the TV. There's Jay. I was spiritually with you guys and I was definitely thinking about it the whole time and I was like, oh man, that sounds like it was so much fun. And I would come anyway. And I'd tease you with a picture in the morning and then like nothing all day long because I'd forget. Yeah, yeah, I was. I was definitely waiting for information. I was posting stuff to Twitter and it was like,

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I was like, ah, he'll just see it on Twitter. And I did. I did. You guys strung me along pretty well. I did feel informed. It looked super fun, man. So cool. Awesome, guys. All right. So something that Jay posted on Facebook yesterday made me think about something that we ought to talk about, which is I think I want everybody to name your very first musical experience as a kid that you remember in terms of like something that you really got into.

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And, you know, for me, my very first remembrance of liking music in any way is the Monkees. I was wondering where the connection was from yesterday. Yeah, you know, the old Monkees TV show. I used to, like, come home from, like, kindergarten and, or whatever, you know, half day of school and, like, turn on the Monkees. And I would just, I so got into that theme song. We had this old acoustic guitar that I'd gotten from an uncle.

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sitting around the house and me and my friends from the neighborhood we'd go out in the front yard with this acoustic guitar and like a tambourine and like a pickle whistle and scream the monkeys theme song at the top of our lungs that was like you know that was my first band it sounds like you guys got beat up a lot as children yeah yeah for me it was just my mom's stereo she had one of the I

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We talked about this once. I mentioned it. It was like an old piece of furniture. You know what I mean? Like this cabinet. You opened it from the top and the speaker was in the front. It was old. And just the records used to play like Neil Diamond, Simon Garfunkel, stuff like that. And so it was like I used to lay there in front of that as a very small child and just listen to the music and like stare at it. Yeah. And I have a ton of memories just like that. But they were all that. It was my mom's record collection. She liked Cat Stevens, Neil Diamond, Simon Garfunkel.

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Shit like that. Definitely. Right on. Countless moments like that. So I would have been probably anywhere from two to five years old. Excellent. Puke, do you remember listening to Kanye West at the knee of your mom like five years ago? I was riding in the car with my mom. My dad really didn't listen to much music. Him was conservative talk radio. My mom was classic rock, like Elton John. That's why, hey, I'm an Elton John.

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I guess that's why they call it the blues. My first live musical experience I saw when I was a kid, I saw Cats with my parents. Right on. And I saw, but did you think it was cool? Yes. Yeah. Okay. I own the Cats vinyl. Okay. And you know what I also thought and saw I thought was cool? Michael Flatley's Lord of the Dance. Hmm. Yes. That was like when the river dance stuff was that one with my parents. It was awesome.

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Yeah, we saw it live. It was awesome. I mean, I still like the Monkees, frankly. But yeah, I was really kind of a late bloomer for music in general. Yeah, I told you, me personally, I didn't listen to metal until Pantera's last album. What's that? 2000. Yeah. I'm a lot younger than you guys, but... Right. I mean, my first album that I bought was Styx. Kilroy was here with Mr. Roboto. Yeah, yeah.

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And I was in like fifth grade. Is Renegade on that? No. No, it's before. Yeah, this is like later. It's like 83. Somewhere around 82, 83, something like that. And I mean, before that, I had like been really into like John Mellencamp. He was known as John Cougar back then. I borrowed a cassette of American Fool from a guy in the neighborhood and used to play, what's the song? Hurts So Good. Like over and over and over.

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jump on my bed. Hold on, let me get a mental picture there. Especially because of the theme of that song, I heard so good, you're jumping up and down on the bed, that's beautiful, man. Yeah. So, somehow I made my way to metal by like sixth grade. I have a theory about Buke and Pantera. Yeah. And it's, you heard it, tell me if I'm wrong, but you heard it and got into it through football in high school. Yeah.

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Yeah, exactly. 100%. I knew it, man. Which is what I hated about Pantera in the 90s. I swear to God. I'm sorry. That's it. Do you know how awesome it is? You guys obviously can't see this, but we have a TV monitor. We're looking at Jay here. So we have purchased some stuff, so we're not stepping on one another. So I can see Jay here, and I saw the big excitement on his face. Because, yes, it was leaving football practice. I knew it.

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I think in my car at the time I had the Star Wars soundtrack. Yeah. On CD. I knew that. I meant to bring this up several episodes ago. I just knew that's where you got it. And Reinventing the Steel came out that day and he took me to Best Buy with him and we got it. Oh, right on. It was all from there. That's a good memory, though. And then I met him and I said, you know, you need to stop being such a pussy that only listens to bands like Pantera. Not that there's nothing wrong with Pantera. It's the people that only listen to Pantera.

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and they're like rednecks and they're like i'll listen to pantera and like maybe some disturbed and yeah and i like to smoke pot because pantera's got pot leaf on that shirt and i like that so that's why i like pantera guys just open your beer with their teeth like i just did well played hey man you got a fucking tooth now but so then i had to turn him on to some even more real metal the uh do you remember the first metal album you bought beque duke oh it probably wasn't pantera

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The Pantera record. Probably Pantera. What was the second one? Another Pantera record. I know what it was because I saw them on tour with Pantera. I bought Soulfly's first album. Oh, that's a good one. Okay. Because they opened up for them right on. And Morbid Angel was on that tour with Nothing Face. Really? Interesting. Very interesting. That's a weird tour.

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It had to be the Altars of Madness tour. This was the gateways for them. It was the very first Michigan Death Fest in 1990. And Morbid Angel headlined it. I didn't know them at the time. I'd sort of heard the name, but I didn't know them. Were they from? Were they from Michigan? No, they're Florida, I think. Oh, Florida. Okay. But based on when things came out, I'm pretty sure it had to be the Altars of Madness tour.

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have been like for the altars of madness and uh so i'm like you know sweet i can i've got cred i saw them on altars of madness tour yeah that's yeah it's true man that's one that you should be bragging about yep another lineup has gone through so many changes yeah oh they're weird now yeah if they're gonna do another album they need to drastically lay off the fucking industrial and make some metal it's it's strange yeah that's one of those bands that took a weird right turn somewhere that just threw a lot of people for a loop that yeah

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Go figure man. Should we get into some news? Let's go. Let's do it. All right. Well, the first two items are left over from the yesterday's Saints session that we just didn't have time to get to. So kind of moldy oldie, but still thought we'd talk about them. First one being that Gwar fired Vulvatron. Yeah, what was it about? I thought she was drinking too much. Yeah, go figure. It sounded like they warned her and show up. You know, there's two sides to everything. She was drinking too much, getting drunk before.

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the shows. They came to her and said, hey, you need to calm down on your drinking. And she's like, but wait, you guys drink heavy? But they're like, no, we're not new. We've been in this band for decades. You don't have any history here. You've got to prove yourself. They warned her. Apparently she didn't stop and they kicked her out. Yeah, and apparently didn't tell her directly either. Yeah, I think she said she read it on the internet, right? Yeah. So that kind of sucks.

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But I guess you can't miss what you didn't know

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Well she's hot and I was looking forward to seeing her

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at barbecue this fall

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I feel like, was she the only girl

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in the band right now?

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Yeah, no, she was there with Matt from Yesterday's Saints

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I saw her on his Facebook

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I think they know they need a female presence

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in the band, though I bet you there'll be a girl there

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They're probably actively

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looking for a new Volta Trouble

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They may have already had one step in

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Yeah, maybe so

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We shall see

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How do you know she was at barbecue? Because she was in a picture with Matt from Yesterday's Saints. Her name's Kim Dilla, I think. Motherfucker. Yeah, I had reached out to Matt. I was like, hey, you're here? And he was like, well. I think he was there Saturday night, briefly, but he wasn't there Sunday. So by the time I talked to him, he was already gone. I can't trust you to talk to anybody, though. What? Next time, let me talk to him. Then we would have been having a huge rager in the parking lot with Volvatron.

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in the back of my Prius.

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Hey, it was a very roomy Prius. I will give him that.

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George and I were green going to Prius. We were going to Death Fest.

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There was room for both of us big guys to curl up and spoon and fall asleep for a little while during DemiLich.

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All right.

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The other news item that carries over, there was recently this HBO documentary,

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about Nirvana, not exactly a metal band, but it's called Montage of Heck. It's sitting on my DVR. I haven't watched it yet, but I was a big Nirvana fan back in the early 90s. And according to, I don't know, it was like the director or something like that, they're apparently going to rape his corpse for more money. They've found his personal collection of music, and there's some unreleased material that will be

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hoard out to the public this summer at some point.

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You know, I didn't. Yeah, I heard about that.

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You know, I didn't watch the whole documentary, but I just happened upon it.

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Like, oh, oh, it was maybe in the last two weeks.

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And I was sucked in because it's really well done.

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Like, what they did is all these journal, like his journal writings.

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And they have somebody read those.

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And then there's like his some actually he actually kept a lot of journals, like cassette tapes.

01:15:21.340 --> 01:15:22.520
And they like animated it.

01:15:23.180 --> 01:15:51.140
And it's pretty brilliant how it's done, I have to say. So I couldn't stop watching, actually. I mean, I did stop watching, partially because I didn't get to see the beginning. But I think I'll go back and watch it from start to finish. Right on. Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing it. Yeah, cool. I'll be curious to know what you thought of it when you see it. I'm still trying to get through the Lamb of God movie. I started watching that on the plane in April. My wife and I flew to Orlando.

01:15:52.620 --> 01:16:19.680
So I was like, let me put a short movie on my phone that I can watch on the plane. But I was so fucking Xanaxed out, I got on the plane, sat down, turned on the movie, and just immediately nodded out. Did you watch it, too? Fuck it, I haven't watched it yet. I haven't. But yeah, gotta check that out. Is it on iTunes? Probably, yeah. Yeah, it is. I saw it. It's good. Is it good? Yeah, I enjoyed it. I mean, it's nothing you kind of don't know, but it was weird to watch it unfold.

01:16:22.620 --> 01:16:52.580
It did kind of come out of nowhere, you know, the whole charges. And it was a shame, too, because it was really kind of like Randy was kind of getting himself together and kind of quit drinking before that. You know what I mean? Then suddenly he's faced with like this biggest test of his life. It's actually pretty riveting, man. And listening to him, too, maybe they touch on it in the movie. Jay, was there any question about what stood out to me is that he didn't have to go back. Yeah. Yeah. That is one of the single most

01:16:52.600 --> 01:16:54.760
solid things about his,

01:16:55.990 --> 01:16:57.000
about who he is,

01:16:57.000 --> 01:16:59.880
is the fact that he cared about justice being done.

01:17:00.180 --> 01:17:00.400
Yeah.

01:17:01.040 --> 01:17:02.320
He believed he was innocent,

01:17:02.500 --> 01:17:03.360
but he cared enough.

01:17:03.620 --> 01:17:03.960
He could have,

01:17:04.340 --> 01:17:04.500
you know,

01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:04.760
when,

01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:05.720
when he got out on bail,

01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:06.680
he came back here,

01:17:06.970 --> 01:17:07.500
he could have said,

01:17:07.550 --> 01:17:07.900
fuck you,

01:17:07.990 --> 01:17:08.580
Czech Republic,

01:17:09.040 --> 01:17:09.800
never coming back.

01:17:10.050 --> 01:17:11.160
And then just never gone back.

01:17:11.280 --> 01:17:11.460
They didn't,

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they couldn't have extradited him,

01:17:13.260 --> 01:17:16.500
but he went back and faced and won.

01:17:17.420 --> 01:17:20.100
And he's so sincere in the movie talking about that,

01:17:20.230 --> 01:17:21.560
those exact facts.

01:17:22.660 --> 01:17:51.500
and that you just come away really admiring him. He really says he did it because that family needed some satisfaction to see this kind of process through. And he felt it was his responsibility to go there and be part of it. I don't know. He says it better than I ever could. But yeah, I think you're going to walk away impressed with him. Plus, you also just kind of get to see their private lives, which is kind of cool. I'm interested to see how people live. You sort of see their houses and cars.

01:17:51.860 --> 01:17:53.340
One of them drives a Prius. Yeah.

01:17:53.830 --> 01:17:54.440
You'll be glad to know.

01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:55.040
Yes.

01:17:55.740 --> 01:17:56.400
Actually, yes.

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If it's Chris Adler, I'm in great fucking company.

01:17:59.660 --> 01:18:00.820
It's actually Chris Adler, dude.

01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:01.400
Yes.

01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:02.020
Yeah.

01:18:02.440 --> 01:18:02.740
Yes.

01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:04.500
Yeah, it's cool.

01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:05.260
Totally worth watching.

01:18:06.160 --> 01:18:09.800
Which kind of, by the way, if I may be so bold, leads into our next news item.

01:18:10.090 --> 01:18:10.680
It does indeed.

01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:11.520
Oh, look at that trip.

01:18:12.240 --> 01:18:13.540
Give this guy an FM job.

01:18:15.040 --> 01:18:16.560
I was already thinking that, too.

01:18:16.930 --> 01:18:17.500
I was like, yeah.

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But that's when you need to go.

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It leads us into our next story.

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And boom, say it.

01:18:24.050 --> 01:18:24.280
True enough.

01:18:24.410 --> 01:18:25.200
Yeah, we all kind of do.

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Take Jake, I mean, take George out of the picture, and you run with it.

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But go ahead, George.

01:18:32.280 --> 01:18:35.980
So, guys, do you hear about the new Lamb of God song, Still Echoes?

01:18:36.580 --> 01:18:38.120
Yeah, we called this coming back from Death Fence.

01:18:38.710 --> 01:18:40.660
Oh, you guys already, so you guys listened to it on the way back.

01:18:41.160 --> 01:18:41.900
It's Lamb of God.

01:18:42.120 --> 01:18:42.740
It's pretty good.

01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:43.840
You know what?

01:18:43.940 --> 01:18:44.620
I'm curious.

01:18:45.460 --> 01:18:46.780
I'm curious what the song's about.

01:18:47.450 --> 01:18:50.160
I was watching the lyric video, reading the lyrics, and going, hmm.

01:18:51.100 --> 01:19:20.920
Well, it sounds pretty deep and dark, but... But what, yeah? About what specifically? I'm not sure. You're right on the money, Buke. Sounds like Lama Gone. I mean, I'll get it. They are one of those bands. We're big fans, I know. I don't know if you're the biggest fan. I mean, are you... You take them or leave them? I like them. You like them. But they are one of those bands that get into that place now where they've got, what, five, six records out and there won't be anything wrong with this new one? Yeah, the seventh one.

01:19:21.080 --> 01:19:50.400
Sturm und Drang. Sturm und Drang. And it'll be cool, but it'll be probably nothing, you know, groundbreaking for them. I'll buy it and I'll probably love it. But yeah, that sounds cool though. It's good. It's good. So I learned some interesting news the other day. Ronnie James Dio has a son by the name of Dan Padavona, which is Dio's real name, who is apparently an author and he just released his second novel called Dark Vanishings. Crazy.

01:19:51.080 --> 01:20:20.620
I never heard of this until you put it in the... Yeah, who knew Dio had a kid? Who knew Dio's kid was a writer? Was it his kid with Wendy Dio or was it a kid with some other... That I could not tell you. Some other strange... Some slot! Yeah, some strange that he got fucking singing the dragons in Transylvania or something like that. Yeah, no, I don't know about that. You think Dio was slaying them? The dragons or the women? Both. Definitely the dragons.

01:20:21.100 --> 01:20:51.060
I think Dio had a cock that messed his voice. They called him the third leg. One for the fucking ages. Not his voice. See, it's a code. That's why he had three names. Ronnie, James, Dio. One for each leg. Yes! Yes! What if like fucking Dio, small little gremlin Dio was hung like a fucking horse? That would be poetic justice. That would be. And everybody thinks, oh, Lemmy's the big

01:20:54.800 --> 01:21:21.060
It's the quiet guys who don't talk about it. Exactly. Exactly. I used to learn a lot of things about him. When I learned them, I think I was shocked. One was, I read an interview with him one time where he was talking about, or no, no, it was somebody else was saying, what did he do to prepare to go out on stage? I always saw him as a singer's singer. This was not that long before he died. He was like, I'll just smoke a joint. That was like, no idea that he was just like, that kind of thing.

01:21:21.080 --> 01:21:21.480
kind of guy.

01:21:21.640 --> 01:21:24.380
And that was literally the way he got ready.

01:21:24.580 --> 01:21:24.900
And that was,

01:21:25.080 --> 01:21:27.140
this was like when heaven and hell was happening,

01:21:27.300 --> 01:21:28.640
like the band heaven and hell.

01:21:29.160 --> 01:21:30.480
So he was still,

01:21:30.700 --> 01:21:30.920
you know,

01:21:31.060 --> 01:21:31.760
that was his,

01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:33.600
his way he did things.

01:21:33.640 --> 01:21:35.760
I think it was Scotty and I can't remember who was that asked him and

01:21:35.860 --> 01:21:35.940
somebody,

01:21:36.100 --> 01:21:37.460
and they were relaying the story.

01:21:37.940 --> 01:21:38.260
Okay.

01:21:38.900 --> 01:21:40.100
A lot of stuff I don't know about Dio.

01:21:40.520 --> 01:21:40.680
Yeah.

01:21:40.860 --> 01:21:41.640
There needs to be a book.

01:21:42.700 --> 01:21:43.680
There does need to be a book.

01:21:44.400 --> 01:21:44.980
We should write it.

01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:46.680
We'll just make shit up.

01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:47.200
Yeah.

01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:49.460
And then Dio slayed the dragon.

01:21:50.440 --> 01:21:50.540
Right.

01:21:51.000 --> 01:22:20.520
God, his voice was amazing. Yeah. All right. Well, I think Jay will probably be pleased to know that Niall is releasing their new album, What Should Not Be Unearthed, on August 28th. Can't wait, man. I'm totally into these guys. I think there are those bands that there's like, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think of another example, but it's like there's all the other death metal bands and then there's these guys. You know what I mean? To me, they are, at least for just technical skill, insane. But also, I really

01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:50.520
I like their records so I'm excited about this and George Kalias says that one of the songs on there is the hardest song he's ever played wow and that's George Kalias I saw them play they opened for I want to say Cradle of Filth many years ago I saw them at the 930 club I think they're kind of out there by you guys somewhere aren't they Virginia I think they're from are they yeah I'm pretty sure I don't know I think they are Richmond maybe it might be I'll look it up they but they um

01:22:50.540 --> 01:23:19.920
I saw them maybe just last year or something. I can't remember what it was. But they did two long sets. It was really cool. Literally did something from every album. Many things from every album. Took a break in the middle. Came out and did another set. It was awesome, man. All I know about them, Jay, is they're one of those bands that always comes around. Every time we were going to Jack's or Empire George, I would always see their posters in the lobby. It seemed like they were always on tour. Ubiquitous. Yeah.

01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:49.700
They are actually from Greenville. Oh, North Carolina. South Carolina. That's what I meant. Yep. I didn't realize they have so many albums out, but they have a lot. I think the first one was released in the 90s. Yeah, their first full length was 98. Amongst the catacombs of Niff, whatever. Niff, niff, niff, sniffing. Right on. Well, this next one, I think Bueck will get his nips in a bunch about.

01:23:50.560 --> 01:24:20.520
The New Jungle Rod album, Order Shall Prevail, out on June 30th. And apparently there's a guest vocal from Max Cavalera. Yeah, I was surprised to hear that. Dude, I heard these guys just going through Spotify. I like my death metal a little technical. Yeah. These guys are not super revocation technical, but it's there, and I like what I've heard from them. Did you ever get the... I know you were trying to get...

01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:48.480
I haven't got it yet. Thanks, Jay. I love that laugh. I do. I love it, too. You make me laugh, man. You're so funny. Cool. I'll check it out. By the way, I don't know them at all, so I'll look into them. Right on. You want to get this next one? Yeah, the funny thing is Jay saw that record and was like, oh, yeah. Jungle Rot. Flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip. And I was like, hey, Jay, can you pick up the Jungle Rot for me?

01:24:51.880 --> 01:25:20.520
I had looked for it that day and then I went to look for it the next day in another record store and I was like I don't even know who these guys are so they're going to have it like who would have been lining up in suburban because I went out to the suburban area where our rehearsal studio is no I didn't see it anywhere but the yeah no luck there dude sorry oh but the next new story High and Fire's new record Luminiferous

01:25:20.540 --> 01:25:50.180
Can we go back to Death Fest? A big part of Death Fest in the parking lot for 20 minutes or so was band names that were playing and had you say them. Anon Nothrak and Ernhainer, whatever that was. Einherjer. Yeah, Einherjer and stuff like that. Hearing everybody's different sayings for bands was also funny too. Oh yeah. Yeah, how do people pronounce them? You know, Anon Nothrak is from a movie. Is it really? Yeah. It's a movie Willow. I think it's from Willow. Really?

01:25:50.560 --> 01:26:18.920
Yeah, in that movie, it's like the words that the wizard says. Oh, Natrak! Yeah, that does sound familiar. I'm assuming that's what they took it from and that that's not an actual phrase from real life somewhere, but meaning maybe Willow found it somewhere else. I have a fond memory of when I was a kid watching Willow. I can't remember because I haven't seen it in years, but was Willow a good movie? Yeah, pretty good. I loved Willow. I am a total nerd. I've seen that movie so many times. I saw it in the theater when it first came out.

01:26:18.980 --> 01:26:48.800
I got pulled over for the very first time coming out of that movie. Made an illegal left turn out of the parking lot. George was so amped up. Yeah, Willow! George is fucking speeding out of the lot. Yeah. It was my very first time taking the car out on my 16th birthday. You were so happy to go see Willow. You couldn't fucking contain your foot. Nah, I was just dumb and didn't see the sign that says, no left turn. And I drove for like,

01:26:48.980 --> 01:27:16.860
Three Miles with the cop behind me with his lights on, not noticing him. He didn't have the siren on, just the lights. Knowing you, you probably were all nervous, right? Oh, about shit myself. I was like, because I was like, oh, crap, I've been like eluding, you know, this cop who's been following me all this way. If this was modern times, you'd have a helicopter up with you in seconds. It was like OJ all over again. Except it was pre-J. George is crying. I'm just trying to get back from Willow. Anyway.

01:27:19.480 --> 01:27:48.500
It was an opening day. I don't have much to say about this record. I'm looking forward to it. The High on Fire Luminiferous that we were talking about like 12 minutes ago. Previously. I did hear one track and they actually played that one track when I saw them live not long ago. It'll be cool. It'll be cool. Can't wait. Looking forward to it. Don't know much else about it. Yeah. I had just heard about it. So June 23rd, that is out. It's just a couple of weeks. Yeah, it's come close. So the new Faith No More album, Soul Invictus,

01:27:48.580 --> 01:28:18.520
sold 31,000 units in its first week. That's surprising to me. That's a pretty good number. Very respectable. Yeah, I mean, there's big, big, big, big names that that's what they sell. Yeah. I wasn't sure what to expect with this album. I have since listened to the whole album. When they put out the first single, Motherfucker, I didn't like that at all. Yeah. I was like, this is not a single. It's like the whole song doesn't resolve. The whole song is like,

01:28:18.580 --> 01:28:48.200
Like, it just doesn't happen. And I was waiting for some sort of chorus. It's grown on me since in the context of the whole album. But I thought it was a really poor choice as a first single. So I was not really expecting much from the album. Because, you know, they're kind of a weird band. They're not really metal. But I was playing, they were on Jimmy Fallon. And they played a couple songs. And my wife was like, oh, it's kind of cool. And they played,

01:28:48.720 --> 01:29:18.520
I don't even know what the fuck it's called now. Nope, can't remember. But they played a different song and it was kind of good. And so I was like, all right, let me check out the album. And on the whole, I kind of dug the album. Do you like it? Are you a Buk? Are you a Faith No More fan? Only Epic and their cover of Easy. You know, I'm kind of in that same boat with all due respect to them. And, you know, I will say this. I'm not a fan. I don't think I've ever owned any of their records. But I used to work at this bookstore and I got, and we sold tickets. This was back when we still sold tickets.

01:29:20.100 --> 01:29:24.260
I used to get free tickets a lot.

01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:27.800
I went to see them and this was on that, the epic, whatever that tour was.

01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:30.320
It was right when they were getting ready to break and I saw them in this small place.

01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:31.980
I got to say, I was blown away.

01:29:33.140 --> 01:29:35.820
Even though I'm not even crazy about them, it was one of the top ten shows I ever saw.

01:29:36.020 --> 01:29:42.840
It was like seeing this band right when they were huge on MTV, but they had to honor the club tour that they booked, even though they should be in bigger places.

01:29:43.040 --> 01:29:44.240
It was awesome.

01:29:44.840 --> 01:30:13.800
Yeah, I loved them. When The Real Thing came out and Epic dropped, it was right before I finished high school. Came out like a couple months before high school. Riding on that Willow high. Yeah. That was another year or two after Willow. That was a couple years for you. But you know how obsessive I am, okay? So I went from I don't like that first single to I checked out the album and I really liked the album. What did I do next?

01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:42.780
Tickets to the show in August. Going to go see them at Meriwether. And I picked up three vinyls. I had real thing already. I picked up Album of the Year, King for a Day, Fool for whatever, and Album of the Year on vinyl. That's pretty clever. I like that they have a record called Album of the Year. Yeah. Because if nothing else, you know what I mean? It looks good on your resume.

01:30:46.080 --> 01:30:52.620
So there was some news recently that Sammy Hagar kind of put a burndown on Mr. David Lee Roth.

01:30:53.340 --> 01:31:01.860
David Lee Roth was asked if on the Van Halen tour that whether he was going to be singing any of the Sammy era Van Halen tunes.

01:31:02.660 --> 01:31:08.120
And David Lee Roth was like, no, no, you know, there's sort of a quality issue here.

01:31:08.420 --> 01:31:36.980
And he went on to say something about sales figures or something, like how the Sammy Hagar-era songs only sold half as much as the David Lee Roth-era songs or something to that effect. Just kind of a douchey remark. And Sammy Hagar came back with, well, yeah, obviously there's going to be a quality issue because Dave can't sing my shit. So if Dave tried to sing my shit, it would sound horrible. Now, this is me paraphrasing. He was not so bold as to say those things.

01:31:37.040 --> 01:32:05.140
He basically implied that yeah, there's a quality issue because David Lee Roth can't sing my songs. Yeah. And I was like, ooh, burn. Because, you know, when David Lee Roth first left Van Halen back in the 80s, I was bummed. I was a big Van Halen fan. I was a Sammy Hagar fan too, and I was kind of bummed that he was joining this pre-existing band. And so for years, I wouldn't listen to Van Halen. I was like, nah, fuck that man. David Lee Roth. And now I'm fucking sick to death of hearing David Lee Roth.

01:32:05.160 --> 01:32:32.780
Just give me some of that Sammy Hagar Van Halen. Right on. I do have to tell you, I prefer the David Lee Roth Van Halen by a long shot, but I don't have anything against the other stuff. I only ever saw them with Sammy Hagar. I did actually see them in high school on the OU812 tour, which was cool. But I'm a fan of David Lee Roth. I think he's hilarious. I do. I think he's the funniest son of a bitch. I think he's like a vaudeville performer. Yeah.

01:32:35.360 --> 01:33:04.660
He's a little too cool for rock and roll in a weird sort of way. But yeah, so Sammy, by the way, you know, Sammy Hagar is like, hold on. I want to be accurate about this. He's an old man, dude. He's like 70. Yeah, he's like 60. What the fuck? 66 or something. He's 67 years old. 67 years old. What the fuck? Crazy. He's like as old as my parents. He kind of is, dude. I mean, he's still got that blonde hair and everything. He may be dying it. So that Cabo Wabo.

01:33:05.180 --> 01:33:05.920
I think it is.

01:33:06.160 --> 01:33:08.160
It's the magic tequila that'll live forever.

01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:09.820
Have you guys had the Cabo Wabo?

01:33:10.180 --> 01:33:10.620
I have.

01:33:10.760 --> 01:33:12.640
My mom bought me a bottle back from Mexico.

01:33:12.980 --> 01:33:13.660
Yeah, it's good stuff.

01:33:13.940 --> 01:33:14.100
Cool.

01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:15.840
I mean, to check it out one of these days.

01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:17.960
I know he doesn't own the company anymore, but I assume it's still good.

01:33:18.500 --> 01:33:18.700
Yeah.

01:33:19.160 --> 01:33:22.220
Apparently, he has clubs and stuff down there where he's...

01:33:22.500 --> 01:33:27.760
Yeah, we were talking about trying to go down there just because I read his book and it was like, man, it sounds really nice down there.

01:33:28.280 --> 01:33:31.940
But guys, you guys obviously were living it then when I wasn't.

01:33:32.600 --> 01:34:02.220
Was it the same talk of like Bruce joining Iron Maiden or Dio joining Sabbath? No, it was a unique. It was a little bit. It was weird. It was like, I think most people were just like George. I was. You just hated the idea of it. Yeah, on both sides. Was he ever given a fair shot? Well, he already had this successful solo career. You know, I was really into his last album, VOA, that had I Can't Drive 55 on there. Wasn't he with Montrose?

01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:32.400
Yeah, that too. Yeah. But you know what, though? Yeah, he was giving a real fair shot. I have a very distinct memory of that being the record of that summer. Not necessarily for me, but it was on the radio constantly. Oh, yeah. People talked about it. All my friends had it. What's your guys' favorite Van Halen album then? Not to put you on the spot, but since you guys... I have a couple on vinyl just because I think you should own them. Mine was probably 1984 because that was the album that introduced me. I bought it.

01:34:32.580 --> 01:35:01.720
And I was so intrigued by the album cover. The cover art's cool. The angel with the cigarette. I was just like, I knew that Van Halen was cool, and so I bought this because it was the newest one. And it was that magical thing for me. But music-wise, it's probably not my favorite album. Fair warning is far and away my favorite. That's their basically metal record, really. That's a good record, man. Mean Streets, a bunch of killer songs on it. It's their hardest rock record, for sure.

01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:05.240
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wish I could add more, guys. This was kind

01:35:05.300 --> 01:35:08.380
of before my time. Yeah. We're old. Why don't you just come out

01:35:08.380 --> 01:35:09.920
and say it? We're old. Grandpa?

01:35:10.860 --> 01:35:11.220
Okay.

01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:14.720
Moving on.

01:35:15.580 --> 01:35:18.120
So the new Slayer record, Repentless,

01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:20.700
is due out on 9-11, which...

01:35:21.660 --> 01:35:22.620
Does anybody remember what happened

01:35:22.620 --> 01:35:24.400
the last time they released an album on 9 11?

01:35:24.900 --> 01:35:24.980
Yeah.

01:35:26.070 --> 01:35:27.400
Yeah. 9-11 happened on 9-11

01:35:27.500 --> 01:35:29.100
last time they released an album on 9-11.

01:35:30.060 --> 01:35:30.500
Just saying.

01:35:31.220 --> 01:35:31.360
Yeah.

01:35:31.420 --> 01:35:32.320
But anyway

01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:34.500
I think it's definitely by the way

01:35:34.640 --> 01:35:35.140
That is

01:35:35.940 --> 01:35:38.120
They're attempting to be a little controversial with that

01:35:38.600 --> 01:35:38.780
Yeah

01:35:39.300 --> 01:35:39.400
Yeah

01:35:39.500 --> 01:35:40.280
Because there's no reason to

01:35:40.740 --> 01:35:43.140
Obviously with the last one on 9-11

01:35:43.200 --> 01:35:44.120
They weren't controversial

01:35:44.440 --> 01:35:44.560
Because

01:35:45.300 --> 01:35:46.560
They kind of fell into obscurity

01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:48.000
Because the events of that date

01:35:48.400 --> 01:35:48.760
You know

01:35:49.220 --> 01:35:50.720
Well but it also was planned months in advance

01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:51.580
Yeah of course

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Of course

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Now this

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Obviously you know

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This one was planned in months in advance

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To hit on this date

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Yeah

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Sure

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A little bit of a weird choice

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That said

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That's not really even the news story. Right. The new news, this album's coming out on Nuclear Blast. Previously, they were on American Recordings, which is, of course, the label of producer, the fuck's his name? Rick Rubin. Rick Rubin. The label of Rick Rubin. And they'd been with him since, like, Rain and Blood. Yep. So... They didn't leave him in recent years?

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They just left him and apparently it's because

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they received an insulting offer

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for Repentless

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So they said, fuck you, we're out of here

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Now, hold on

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Playing the other side of this though

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Okay, you're Slayer

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in 2015

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You need Rick Rubin

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Yes, you do

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You're Slayer in 2015

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Your best of times

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may already have come and gone

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You're on nuclear blast. No offense to nuclear blast. Kind of a small label for Slayer. I think hearing this story and reading it, I think they're maybe putting themselves up on the pedestal that they kind of aren't anymore. You remember what happened when Megadeth went to nuclear blast? Yeah. Yeah, nothing good. That's what happened. Nothing good. Exactly. Yeah, but you know, here's the weird thing about that. I agree with you. It's weird that that's kind of a... It has the appearance of being a smaller label, but they are picking up everybody.

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that all the major labels are dropping. And I'll just give you one example. I think you guys probably know this, but Rush is on nuclear blast now. Really? Wow. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. I'm not trying to diss on nuclear blast. I love nuclear blast. At some point in time, I agree. But at some point in time, there was this subtle turn and now nuclear blast suddenly has like these massive names on it. I would love to know what the insulting offer was from Deaf American. You know,

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I'm strangely mildly related. We went to Hawaii last year and we went to Kauai, which is a beautiful island. The most beautiful of the islands, they say. But anyway, we're in this little coffee shop and who should I run into but Rick Rubin. Really? Yeah, that's it. I didn't talk to him or anything. And I knew he had a hustle. That's called pulling a George. It's just walking by. He actually, but honestly, he was with this like hottie young, I think Hawaiian girl. I since looked it up and it's actually his girlfriend.

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But he had his head down on the table, and I was wondering if he was hungover or something. It was 8 o'clock in the morning, and I was going to get coffee. He was probably just meditating. Right. But anyway, you know, I don't know. I just think Slayer thinks too high of themselves now. I agree. And I'm surprised that relationship lasted as long as it did. Yeah. They probably got dropped now because record sales are down in general. I would almost wager that Ricky Rubin could afford to keep them around.

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in the past.

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They've never sold that many records.

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But now it's sort of like, sorry, dudes, you're going to be on the main label,

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you've got to pull your weight kind of thing.

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Great point.

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Great point.

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Their last couple albums have not been bad.

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World Painted Blood wasn't bad.

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It had a couple killer songs on it.

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It did, yeah.

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I like that.

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I found the whole thing pretty good.

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Slayer's chasing that dragon that, as they're aging, they're on heroin?

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Maybe.

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That explains a few things.

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Slayer just I don't think they can ever be there again. No, I don't think so either. No, I really don't. Not without Jeff. It'll be interesting to see the next one. I'll be interested in purely because of Gary Holt. Gary Holt. Yeah. That being said, you know, if when the silence comes as anything to judge by, it's just going to be like the last three records. So we'll see. Great, great point. Yep. All the same. Yep. And frankly, I'd like to see what they sound like with a different producer. God damn it.

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I want the bass back. But Jay, can a different producer

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change what they as a band are playing now? No.

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He can only do some sonic things.

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And it's just sort of like, to me, if you compare Hello Weights

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and you compare World Painting Blood,

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just the sonic quality of it, I prefer the Hello Weights sound.

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It's a little bassier, a little more echo on Tom's voice.

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It just sounds more old school.

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Old school is the wrong word for it.

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But anyway, none of us, it's funny because they're like Metallica now, aren't they? It's a shame. And what I mean is, we'll all pay attention, we'll know when the record comes out, we'll listen to it once or twice. There will always be the headliners at the festival. That's right. Yeah, but they're never going to change your life again. No. So incidentally, let me just throw out briefly that I saw them about six months ago, and it was the best Slayer show I ever saw. Really? Yeah, the amazing set list. And it was just one song after another, bam, bam, bam. It was Slayer and Exodus.

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So Gary Holt had to do Double Duty. It was killer. Wow. Yeah, super killer show. And they did all the right songs. Mandatory Suicide? Mandatory. Yeah, as a matter of fact. I fucking love that. Jay, what's your favorite Slayers song? Mine would be off of Hello White, believe it or not. It's probably either Necrophiliac or Kill Again. Wow, I've never really heard people talk about it a lot. George, what's yours? I went and saw him on

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on the South of Heaven tour and I actually skipped school that day to go wait outside for them and I met them all and I asked them if they were going to play that and they did which was awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, it was super cool. I'll never forget it. Kerry King still had a hair. Yeah. Yeah, I got pictures somewhere. I'll send them to you guys. That's a tough question. I mean, I'm just going to go Angel of Death. Oh, because I'd have to think about it more because I have to look at Seasons in the Abyss. There's stuff on there that I really dig. I could possibly pull something off of there.

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Stuff on South of Heaven. I'm just not prepared for that. Dead skin mask. Yeah. So I'm just going to default to Angel of Death because I fucking love that song. Over Raining Blood? Yeah. I'm a mandatory suicide guy. There you go. All right. So I'm going to be seeing this band next month. Battle Cross is releasing Rise to Power in August. I honestly don't know. These guys, I'm telling you what, you don't talk about the road dogs of fucking metal now.

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Twitter a week out of every year and just type in Battlecross. These guys are on tour in fucking a different city every night, it seems, playing. They're just, for lack of a better term, they're just a metal band. Right, George? Yeah. They're like a Lamb of God, maybe a little thrash in it a little bit, but they're just a metal band that got a lot of...

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really got behind them a lot when they first came out. Really played a lot of their stuff when they first came out. The American band? Yeah, they're American. From Michigan. It's a great metal band. They're one of those bands that their social media presence is really strong too. You follow them, they'll follow you back. They send you direct messages, they send you tweets at you and stuff like that. That is nice, dude. I like that, yeah. I like that.

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One of my favorite bands out there right now, they release great stuff. Alright, well you guys have sold me. Correct me if I'm wrong, speaking about American metal bands, did we mention the death of the Lazarus AD drummer? We didn't. He died. Yeah, he died. That's a bummer. It is a bummer. You know, they were one of those bands that I was always not so hooked on, or not really liked them until I saw them. Really? I liked their last, actually both their albums. But then we saw them with, what tour was that?

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That was the Warbringer. Landmine Marathon. Yesterday's Saints. Awesome set. Yeah, they were great. That album, what's it? Black River's Flow? I think it was. That sounds about right. It's a three-piece. I don't remember if they said how he died, though. No, they didn't. They didn't say. It's not drugs or something like that, because that's usually what it is. But yeah, he passed away. It was like 34 or something, wasn't it? 29. 29, yeah. Yeah. Well, he was 29. So it could have been old age.

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But you never know. Natural causes, you know. All right. So have we all looked at the new commercial, the late night commercial for the new Ghost album? I've tried to put it up on YouTube the other day and I saw it and I was like, what the hell is this? I couldn't get any sound on it. I had to turn it up really loud. Oh, seriously? You know, and then I noticed like the link I had sent you guys died. I think, you know, well, to me it reminds me of like a really bad satanic cult 70s movie. I think that's what they were going for.

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Yeah. Which I like. I thought that was a nice touch. And it's also just a nice touch to know that whatever label... What label are they on? Oh, look. Keep on talking. Yeah. That they gave them a commercial. You know what I mean? That was cool. They were real, not necessarily top name, but they were real actors in the commercial. And it kind of was tug-in-cheek. I thought it was kind of cool that they did that. To me, it was almost like a Death Clock kind of thing. You know, in Death Clock...

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In the Metalocalypse, there's the evil people off to the side talking. It was very much like that. The one thing about Goso, I'm sick of this stupid lead singer changing that they're doing. You've got to change your popes every once in a while. It's the same guy. It is. But this guy's three months younger. Yeah, I thought that was interesting, especially since they say he's his brother. I thought that was interesting they were changing. Jake, you grind yourself in a band.

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You know, George wishes he could play. I wish I could be in a fucking band. If you're in a metal band as successful as Ghost is right now, you're not fucking leaving it. Stop with the charades. You know, we know. It's just funny. And they are successful, by the way. That's it. Extremely. Did you guys like this record? No. I remember when their first album came out. George doesn't do this often, but I've said this on the podcast before. When he does text me and say,

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You need to check this out. When we got the first Ghost Opus Eponymous... Hippoponymous. Yeah, Hippopotamus. Yeah, Hippop... Hip... Hip... Hip... Hip Hop... Hip Hoponymous? Hip Hop Anonymous. Hippopoponymous. Their first album, they were on Rise Above and Metal Blade. Okay, that's right. Remember when we interviewed Slagle? His picture was Ghost? Yeah, that's right... George said, you got to check these guys out. Classic sound. Evil as fuck lyrics. Yeah.

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Very merciful fate. I think I speak for George here. When that second album came out, I was like, eh. Yeah, I'm really hoping the third album... We're hoping for the best. That second album brought in more 70s sounds with it a little bit. Proggy kind of. I don't know. The one single, the lead single that came off, it was okay. I listened to that record maybe twice. And that says volumes.

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There is a single available here for this one, and it's pretty good. We'll see. The new album is called Meliora. It was released August 21st. So a couple months. But I agree with you. The first record was awesome. I was impressed with it. Richard Wol, Elizabeth. It was great. Yeah. And then seeing them on tour, you saw them with Mastodon and Opeth.

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How awesome was that show? Yeah, it comes out with the... Honestly, that made my night. As cool as the other bands were, they were so good. And I knew... I mean, I went... Really was more motivated to go see them than the other two bands, because I'd seen the other two bands multiple times. Not me, but... I thought they were amazing. I'm a weirdo for Opeth, but... Yeah. Opeth fan over here. Moving on. Our last news item. David Ellefson, a.k.a. Junior from Megadeth, was quoted as saying,

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I'd like to think the new album is not a stinker. All right. We would like to think that it is not a stinker too. We're hoping that it's not a stinker. I haven't liked anything they did since. I thought United Abominations was pretty good. Yeah. And I haven't liked any of the other ones. I couldn't even tell you what they were called anymore. I tried them all. Yeah, pretty much with you there. So. I didn't like it, so we'll see. Will it be a stinker? I'd like to think so too. Probably. Womp womp womp. Well, on the other hand, this is the

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That's true. That is true. Chris Adler and that new dude, the new guitar player. We'll see. Obviously, we haven't heard a stitch of it. There's no lead single yet or anything. Nope. But can a good drum track save an album? No. No. Maybe that kind of young blood. He's not even a young man, though. But I mean, that kind of enthusiasm or something. Obviously, he probably wasn't too deeply involved in the writing. So I guess that is kind of what it comes to.

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He could play amazing drums on a terrible record. Yep. Entirely possible. It'd be the opposite of St. Anger. Horrible drums on an okay record. Yeah, exactly. All right, let's do some new releases. Let's start off with the new Arcturus album, Arcturian. So I was a fan of these guys back in the day when they played black metal. After Aspera Heim Symphonia, they switched singers, I think.

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No, maybe they didn't yet. Garm from Ulver was the singer for the first few albums. But then after Aspera, they sort of went avant-garde, and it got a little weird. And I didn't really care for it too much. And so they didn't release an album for the last 10 years. So when I heard they were releasing a new album, I was like, oh man, make it fucking metal. Have you heard of something yet? I did. I got the promo for it before Death

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Death Fest. And I listened to it and I was like, meh. It's still a little weird. ICS Vortex is the singer now. And I wasn't immediately in love with the album. Okay. But that did not stop me from buying the vinyl at Death Fest. We watched them play, that was the first night, right? Oh, they were at Death Fest. They were at Death Fest. Remember Kevin was going nuts for them? Yeah. The first night, they closed it out.

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Squee. That was his word. I picked that up from the nine circles. He was like, squee. Anyway, and they had an interesting set at Death Fest. And so, and then after the set, I saw it and I was like, all right, I'll give it a, I'll give it a try. I'll get the vinyl. I haven't listened to it yet since Death Fest. So jury's still out on that one, but I think I probably prefer the earlier material still. Rare. Next up, the return of Armored Saint with their new album, Win Hands Down.

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I was just talking to Puke about this earlier today. What do you think of that one? Is it on Metal Blade? Probably. Puke? I asked for your opinion. Oh, I'm just sitting here like, oh, sorry. No, I was driving back home today and George was like, hey, Puke, what do you think of the new Armored Saint? And at the time I was like, man, this is pretty exciting. But then George sent me a text that changed my whole opinion on it.

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See, I influence his opinion greatly. I say, Buke, think this. He's like Obi-Wan. He just waves his hands in front of me. You do not like this bad. This isn't the album you will like. And he says, yeah, it's missing some hooks, though. Yeah. You know, I like Armored Saint in the old days. Pre-Anthrax era, I was a big Armored Saint fan. John Bush joined Anthrax. I was not pleased. Yeah, me either.

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But then when he left Anthrax and started up Armored Saint again, I was like, all right, you know, I'll get behind that because I liked Armored Saint. And musically, I like, have you heard it, Shay? I honestly haven't, though. You've made it available to me as people who listen to the pod probably know we are sharing. So a lot of the problems you get, you're getting, make sure you get them to me. I put it on my computer, I haven't turned it on yet. I have some other stuff farther down the list I spent my time on. Musically, I think it's a good album.

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And I think John Bush's vocals are good as well. But yeah, it just seems to be lacking some hooks. I mean, they really need strong hooks for their music to work, particularly with John Bush's voice. It's got to have a strong hook or it's just not going to make an impression. You know, and I cued this album up and I was like, can you deliver? And that was a song reference, by the way.

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One of their good songs.

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And I don't think it entirely delivered.

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It got about halfway there and then stopped for me.

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I mentioned this album last week, but we were rushed.

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Yeah.

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And it got buried down.

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And in the Nine Circles guys posted a review, and you're like, oh, that album was fucking.

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Yeah.

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Well, I got the promo for this album a while back.

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And you didn't listen to it.

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No, I did listen to it.

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After me?

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No, I'd listen to it.

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Okay.

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The only reason you got it is because I listened to it and said, this is awesome. I'm passing it on. And it's Cult of End Time and their album In Charnel Lights. I have the promo. I have the MP3 promo. I got it for free from the record label. But I fucking loved it so much, I went and dropped like eight bucks on Bandcamp so that I could get the FLAC file for it. Amazing. These guys really have no footprint online either. No, it's a new band, I guess. Amazing.

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I'm pretty sure it's funny because I had I didn't know you guys were into this I mean all the stuff that was in the box I just downloaded and I listened to this one last night and I was like I was going to talk about it but I think they're not even on a label is what I was trying to get around to saying here let me look it up real quick yeah I like this record man it's a good record yeah it's very really good very heavy and frankly I compare it to Tripticon a little bit in how fucking heavy it is that's fair it's on smart records by the way I was wrong they do

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I don't know anything about them either because I kind of looked through a bunch of stuff in the box last night looked at people's Facebook pages blah blah blah no I can't find out a damn thing about these guys yeah well I like it's a good record yeah hopefully we'll be hearing more about them because damn pretty cool right yeah all right this next one's all you Jay I just bumped into this it's called a band strange band name called employed to serve the album is called grayer than you remember and I actually found this one because I

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as the same way I found you guys every once in a while I'll do a search like

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you know best albums of 2015 so far or something like that and this one was

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25th I can't remember where I even read it but it was some article and it was like you know

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albums you probably should have heard if you haven't heard blah blah blah anyway I went and checked it out and it's just

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killer they have a girl singer though you wouldn't know it I mean I think you can kind of tell like you guys

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will have to if you listen to it you'll decide it's there's sort of a

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Slightly Pig Destroyer-ish with more thought-out, longer songs. Really huge riffs and hooks. Nice. It's really good. This is definitely probably a top fiver for me for any year. Right on. I really like it that much. I think that may be our first Jay prediction. End of list. Right on. I actually have a couple today, believe it or not. Cool. Yeah, so anyway, I kind of wanted to just pimp them a little bit and mention them.

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I think you'll dig it, George. Actually, you might like a 2-buk. I can't decide. It's awesome. I love these guys. This next one I don't like, though. Not my style at all. Total black metal stuff, yeah. Yeah, not my style at all. George, this is your style. Yeah, I like Gorgorith, but I haven't really listened to him a lot since Gaul left. Yeah, me either. So, you know, I'm more of a Godseed fan at this point, but I probably should give it a listen, to be fair.

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But it just kind of annoys me, the whole drama with the band of Gaul and Gorgor. Just fuck that. It's like the immortal bullshit. Just fuck you. I'm not going to listen to you if you're going to be like that. And they fought over the name. To be honest with you, I haven't listened to any of the ones since Gaul left either. And I was the one that kind of threw this out at you to throw it out there. Probably just because they are a name. They're out there. I did like them in the past. Yeah. I'll give it a listen. You know, those records post-Gaul have gotten good reviews. Have they?

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Yeah. But I haven't bought any of them. I guess when I saw this was coming, I thought maybe I should, too. I agree with you. I've kind of given it some thought. Yeah, maybe there's a promo out there where we can dip our toes in and not have to invest in it. Even better. Not by me. Yeah, we're going to want your vagina to hurt. Good job. That was rare, Jake. I made Jay laugh. You ready to get a deep belly laugh there.

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All right, so this next one I just pre-ordered on vinyl and got a t-shirt. That's right, Paradise Lost just released The Plague Within. I listened to the full album finally over the last couple of days, and it's pretty badass. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't listened to the whole record, but I kind of did a sampler. I like it. It's definitely kind of a blast for them. It almost kind of reminded me, I just was listening to some this morning,

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and it hit me that it almost slightly reminds me of newer era satiricon. Interesting. In the way that his voice is very satiricon-ish. It's like it's harsh, but it's not too harsh. That's embarrassing, dude, especially since I didn't even pick up on that, but I've been listening to that live record a little bit this week. Yeah. The Live at the Opera. And yeah, I can totally hear that. That's a good call. So yeah, definitely loving that. Just,

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I think the album is actually out last week, this week? I don't remember. I know it'll be out by the time you hear this. But the vinyl's not out yet, so I had to pre-order that. And even found a fatty shirt. 3X fatty shirt for me. It looks pretty badass. For the win! Fat guys win! Let me see. I do want to just quick see if that is out. What's the title of it? What's the name of the record, George?

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Wait, you're talking about Paradise Lost? Yeah. Yeah, The Plague Within. Okay, I'm just wondering if... Anyway, continue. I was just kind of wondering if it is out. Doesn't really matter. Anywho. Alright, so this last band is one that you probably haven't heard of, but I'm thinking that Buke at the very least is going to fucking dig this band. I know them because I reviewed their last album, which is called Angels for Breakfast and God for Lunch. This is the Swedish band Sturbhas.

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And their second full-length album, New Level of Malevolence. And this is some serious thrash. Right up your alley, fucking thrash. Like Angel's Apartheid, that one that came out earlier this year? Kind of, yeah. It's straight-up thrash with maybe a little bit of mellow death in there, but it's really just pretty much thrash. Cool. I liked their last album. I was listening to this album today, and it's pretty fucking killer.

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Hey Mike's from Mike Mike's retweeting us. That's nice. Um, cool. Yeah. I listened to it last night. I didn't listen to the whole thing, but I agree. It's definitely kind of got an old school trash vibe. Very cool. Yeah. So check them out. Stirb Haas. So this week's featured band comes to us all the way from New Zealand. This is the band Lysithia and we are going to play you some music from their third album called realms. I first heard of these guys last year with their second album, which was

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It's called The Secret Fate of All Life. It's kind of epic, not melodic, but like Death Doom. So the songs are kind of long. Yeah, meander. They meander. In fact, their first two releases didn't even have vocals. They were just instrumental. Oh, is that right? Yeah, and then last year with the last album, they got a singer. Kind of a cleaner production, too, for a Doom band.

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I think and they do have a couple things where they kind of hit a trot all of a sudden, you know, speed-wise. Right. And definitely some long, drawn-out instrumental passages. A couple cool songs on this one, too, for sure. Yes. And we're going to get ready to play you one of those songs now. So sit back, relax, and check out Hyperborea.

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"Theirrorism"

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There is a sickness, deep within me

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I'm dying in a burial

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I'll consume me

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Focused, tired, der GEMBERATERFUL

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I will be a deep heart like this!

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Of this new...

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Generals!

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No ship, no one take me Will help me find my way I must leave the body behind To wake to realm of eternal death

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Contextual by the

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Letting go of the body

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To bring myself up on this cold blows To wake myself up the blind To go beyond the north way To never see the night To live the rest of my days No moment to us so long

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The morning I'm laying to the fire

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To bring myself up on its cold blood

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To leave myself on the blind

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To go beyond the north wind

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To never see the night

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To live the rest of my days

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I'm aphorias.

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All right, so that was Lysithia and the song Hyperborea from their third album,

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Realms. Stick around to the end of the podcast and we will play you another song from them. This is it. This is the good stuff. All right, moving on to our top three. Jay was kind enough to provide us with a topic this week. You want to head this one up? Definitely. Top three reunion records and I will be... Well, George and I were talking a little bit before the pod and so I actually am wondering if we will have matched up on these. It sounds like George went kind of classic, which is cool. But I... Boy, if we don't have this one in common,

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I don't know what I'm going to do. I really wanted to start with... Go ahead. Go with it, man. Sorry. I was going to say, I really wanted to get obscure and be like, oh, this one here. But I just didn't have the time. And the ones that I did end up picking seemed like good choices. So, sorry to interrupt. Carry on. Not at all. I'll just start it off. But I'm going to hit you with my honorable mention first, and then I'll hit you with my number three. My honorable mention, I think, is a record that kind of divided a lot of people.

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But it's Bruce's return to Iron Maiden. I thought Brave New World was a really good record. Right on. So that's my honorable mention. And then this. Here's another one that I think a lot of people maybe didn't like. But Venom got back together late 90s. They did a record called Cast and Stone. Cast and Stone. I remember that. I liked that. It's good from start to finish. So that's my number three. Or George, as the case may be. I have a four, but I'm going to save it to see if you do it first. So my number three.

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is carcass with surgical steel. Oh, oh, dude. God damn it. I meant to remember that when we first started talking about this one. Remember to remember it. Yeah, that's a good choice. Awesome. Buke, number three. George, this came from us seeing them years back on a reunion tour, and I know you were excited. Death Angel, the art of dying. Yes, that's another good one. We saw them when they were reunited, and... That was at Jack's. That was at Jack's, and it was in a place...

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That place fucking sucks, but they were on that night. They were. It was a great show. It was. They came back out with this album. It was a great album. Yeah. Production was great. Classic Death Angel sound. They've been tearing it up ever since. Yeah, they've been tearing it up ever since. We've put out three albums since then, I think. Yeah, sounds right. Two or three. Yeah. That's a good choice, dude. The carcass I thought of a while back when we first discussed this, didn't even think of the Death Angel.

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Those are both good choices.

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Alright, what's your number two?

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Number two, totally mainstream.

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A lot of people probably would reference this one.

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Deep Purple, Perfect Strangers.

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Oh, brilliant.

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I didn't think of that.

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I didn't think of that one.

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I love that album so much.

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I mean, whenever I'd have this conversation,

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because you have these conversations with friends over beers and stuff,

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that used to be the one where I'd be like,

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number one, that's it.

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That's the best.

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It's not anymore, because I got a new number one.

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But yeah, Perfect Strangers.

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And I think number one is your number four.

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That's the true spiritual follow-up to Among the Levy, in my mind. Even though Joey's still around for the actual record,

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Yeah, that's a good record, dude. Yeah, there's Persistence of Time. Right, yeah. On State of Euphoria. There's a couple albums, actually. Man, that record is good from start to finish. A lot of killer tracks on that one. That's a worship. All right. Number two. Jay gave this one an honorable mention. It should have been on his list easily, but Iron Maiden, Brave New World, The Wicker Man, Ghost of a Navigator,

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Oh, it makes my fucking shit hard. Fucking Ghost of the Navigator, Brave New World, Blood Brothers, The Mercenary, Out on the Silent Planet. You know, Ghost of the Navigator, I agree with you, George. That's a total hard-on song. But I got to tell you, one of my favorite Maiden songs ever is on that record. I'll probably call it a top five Maiden song. You guys will probably be a little surprised. Thin Line Between Love and Hate. Jesus, that's a good song. Okay. The whole album, I'm serious. When we did our top three,

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I think it may have been my number three. It's a fucking killer album. It is. Good. I'm glad to go. They're constant staples on the live tour now for them. Yeah. All right. Jay, number one. You know what it is, George. Just go ahead and say it out loud. Celtic Frost, monotheist. Wouldn't be anything else, my friend. And that is my number four. Yeah. To this day, I mean, well, I remember when it came out. I got it and I just couldn't believe it. I was like,

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I can't believe what I'm hearing. And not only that, but I feel like it's this band that came back and kind of picked up right where they left off. But also, like you said in the previous pod, by the way, completely relevant modern record. Jesus, that's a good record. Love it. Yeah. Love it. All right. Well, I'm going to surprise everybody with my number one and go with Iron Maiden, Brave New World. Yes. Yes. I bet you didn't see that one coming. I did not. No, not even a little bit.

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That's awesome. Yeah, I mean, Iron Maiden is truly one of my all-time favorite metal bands, you know. And when Bruce left, I remember me and the guys I lived with at the time, we did a, like, pay-per-view of Bruce's last concert. Did you see that? Yeah, it's a horror thing. I don't remember what it's called. And they, like, at the end, they, like, impale Bruce and, like, leave him dead on the stage. What's that? I was so bummed when he left.

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I left. And so for him to come back, I remember I went to Record and Tape Trader, the old location, before they moved across the street into that bigger store. And I, like, fucking went out there and bought that CD and was, like, just, you know, loving it. So I was so happy that he was back. George can't open it anymore because it's fucking cum filled. That's fucking glued shut. George welded that together with his loves.

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It's that good, though. Thank God for 53s, man. You can't ruin those. Number one, Buke. Black Sabbath's 13. I was considering that one, and I thought that was too obvious. But, George, you have to admit, we love that album. Oh, no, I'm not knocking you at all. It's definitely worthy of a number one. I love that album. The riffs are there. The recording is there. They start to finish, the whole album. Yeah. I just figured that you would expect me to do that one, and so I did. That's what I did. I did.

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But yeah, it's amazing. I know we get some shit from God listening to them sometimes for listening to that, but I think it's a great album. Fuck them, yeah. It was my album of the year that year. Yep. Oh, awesome. Cool. Good choice, man. And actually, I'm surprised that you, not because it's a bad record, but I just didn't see that coming. Yeah. All right, cool. That was a cool one. All right. Nice top three. That was a great top three. Moving on. What are you listening to, Jay? I got four titles. I'm going to go through them pretty quick.

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I just got into these guys and I bet you guys know them. Not those guys, but the next band I want to mention. Malakash. Yes. You know them? Yeah, the new Malakash album. Yeah, it's so good. It is. You said it to them, yeah. Yeah, it's definitely going to be a top album this year. Me too. Dude, without question, I'm hooked on that record right now. It's going to be in the top. Okay, now I got one that I'm wondering if you know about, and it might be one of the ones that beat you to the table on George that I know you're going to love if you haven't heard it. It's a band called Ex Genesis.

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They got an EP out called Aphotic Well. This is probably going to be in my top 10 this year. Wait, that sounds familiar. They're kind of like a big, doomy, deathy Shamash meets. There's a little Opeth in there. It's hard to describe. But it kind of gets into these grooves and then it throws you surprises like every three minutes. It's great. And then also, then my last one is Venom. I saw you got this on vinyl recently, George, and I just finally picked it up.

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from The Great Depths. And I've been listening to that. That's a good record. I like that record. Excellent. Yeah, it's one of the better Venom later releases. Right. So that's my listening. Cool. What do you got, Buke? Okay, I have been listening to classic death metal band, Entrails, and their new album, Obliteration. Swedish. Yep. Came out, yep, Swedish band. Came out May 14th. Classic death metal. Has probably my favorite song of the year so far. Epitome of Death.

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Whatever. It's half, you know. It's a pity of fucking death. That's a good record. This album is killer. Just brutal. Yeah. I heard their remaster album that came out last year. They remastered a bunch of their demos, resurrected from the grave. So, I like them a lot. Yeah. What was I going to say? Are you into that record, George? That entrance? Yeah, I like that. I tried to find them all at Death Fest, and I couldn't find them.

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Find a shirt or vinyl. Really? Yep. Is it even officially out yet? Yeah. Is it? May 14th. Right on. Oops. I mean, excellent. Right on. Right on. Right on. Maybe I should start saying it twice. Right on, right on. All right. I'm listening to a band that you probably haven't heard of. I only found them through Bandcamp. They're called Gorilla Monsoon.

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And the album is, it's their third album. It's called Fire God Feeding the Beast. And they're a German sludge band. And it's basically, it's fucking sludge. It's heavy as fuck. And it is what it is. It's heavy music. I ordered the vinyl through Bandcamp. I just Googled it while you were talking and apparently there was an old wrestler called Gorilla Monsoon because that's the only thing that came up.

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Yeah, they named themselves after the wrestler. He's dead now. Go Gorilla Monsoon Band and it'll come up. So yeah, check them out on Bandcamp. They're fucking heavy. They're a German band with sort of a southern sound. All right, let's move on to our classics. What do you got, Jay? I'm going to mislead people, but I guess we do what we're listening to so people know. But I keep picking some punk stuff. I did Suicide of Tennis last week.

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Anyway, this week, Misfits Walk Among Us. I was listening to this this week. I hadn't listened to it in a while. That's a good record. That's a good record from start to finish. Fast, hard little tracks. Good stuff. Yeah, I love me the Misfits, and that's a great one. Do you have those on vinyl, George? I don't. You know, it's funny. I first saw it on vinyl again. It must have been a reissue. Yeah. Like a year and a half ago, and it was like $40. And I was like, I like it, but man, $40. You can get it for $17 now. Yeah.

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And then I actually saw it at Death Fest for $17 and I meant to grab it along with that green carnation one for $10 and I forgot. Yep, yep, yep, yep. You can get it through. Because I was listening to it, I thought, oh, let's see if it's out. They changed the cover a little, by the way. The color is a little different. It's like pink, yeah. But you can get it at Walmart now for $17. Really? But anyway, yeah. I mean, this was online I saw. Anywho. I'll check it out. Classic albums.

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This goes back to our top three list. And this is my favorite from Death Angel. Act three. Act three. That's definitely my favorite one. Seemingless, endless, sorry, seemingly. Seeming, seamless. Seemingly endless time. Veil of deception. Oh, yeah. The album's perfect from start to finish. When that album came out, which was like 1990,

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and ate that shit up. I mean, I first got Frolic Through the Park, which I think was my first Death Angel album. Up there. Yep. And I loved that. But then when Act 3 came out, their sound had matured so much. And it was just so good. And I saw them on that tour, and then they disappeared for 15 years or whatever. Yep. And I was so bummed out when they didn't come up with a follow-up with that a couple years later. One of them was in a car accident.

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We talked to Mark, the singer, at Jack's before their show there. And that was my first question. It was like, dude, where have you been forever? And he said, we had a bus accident and a couple of people got hurt. And there was just, you know, between people being hurt and insurance reasons for the accident and everything, we just couldn't make it work. And so, you know, they broke up for a long time.

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Yeah, it's a good record though. Actually, that's a good choice, man. It's a great, yeah. So, Dylan, thank you for the topic for our top three because maybe you go back and listen to that album again. Yeah. Well, you're going to roll your eyes at me, Buke. My classic album from 1995 is Stormcrow Fleet from Skepticism. Oh. Okay. You know, after Death Fest, yeah, I went back and listened to all their stuff and I was just like,

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This is the only one old enough to make it in the classics. So this is our first album. You know, it's like pioneering funeral. Do they have the same sound at the start? Yeah, basically. Yeah. Would you say they are the start of funeral doom? No. I mean, 95. I don't know. There's got to be something older than that, but definitely a pioneer. Okay. So, you know, 20 years ago. Hmm. So there you have it. All right.

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Now, for the new category that we didn't really, I don't think we, I think we skipped it on the last one. Yeah, we did. We were just so fucking busy. Yeah, and we had to wrap things up because everybody had to leave. This was another one of Jay's ideas called New Vinyl Acquisitions. Well, New Vinyl Acquisitions. New Vinyl Acquisitions. We got a little recording stuff at the studio. You know what, man? I'll put together some little things for these segments.

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That would be cool. That would be fucking cool. If Jay's like, news! New releases! I can do that easy. That'd be awesome. Yeah, we need some jingles. I've been meaning to do that. Willow, yeah! Willow off good. I'm going to get some sound bites. We just need a soundboard. We can just drop sounds. Yeah, but we do need drops. We do. I just haven't gotten around.

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Okay, well, we have a fucking musician right here. Yeah. Yeah, dude, I'm going to put some shit together. Cool. We've got to do that. Yeah. Who's going to start this off? I will. At Death Fest, my recent vinyl acquisitions were Cruisum, Savage Land, Decapitated, Blood Mantra, an amazing technical death metal album. Hell yeah. Blood Death. What? Well, they got a new release we didn't mention.

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We'll have to get it next time. Oh, no, no, it's cattle decapitation. Never mind. Go ahead. Sorry, dude. That's fine. Bloodbath, I got their Creeping Death EP. Breeding Death. Creeping Death is Metallica. Sorry. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. I forgot. You don't like Opeth or Bloodbath. I forgot. Of course, you wouldn't know the name. You don't really like them. Thanks. Have you ever heard of an Opeth fan? Nope. Blackwater Mountain. Sorry.

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Everybody makes mistakes. I know you are. I know. I picked up Royal Thunder. I'm really high on that album right now. That's awesome. Sounds amazing on vinyl. I picked up Serpentine Path. Can't really think of anything else right now. George? Well, I picked up a lot of vinyl at Death Fest, and I'm not going to name it all because damn. And because I know somewhere there's a brewmaster named Will who would just fucking be like,

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Come on, man. Cut it out. Stop buying all that vinyl you're not going to listen to. But technically, I will listen to it. I will. So these are the choice cuts from what I picked up at Maryland Death Fest. Surprised Buick didn't mention this. The Amorphous Tales of the Thousand Lakes, Maryland Death Fest version, supposedly limited to 100 copies. But you know what I found? Did you look on Discogs? Yeah, it's not limited to 100. They may have brought 100.

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What? But that blue thing, it's like 1,100 copies. Well, is it color? No, don't say that. It is, it is. Because when I added it, it wasn't on Discogs. Right, exactly. But the version that's on there is the same, the blue swirly vinyl that we have is an 1,100 run. Ours just has a sticker on it that says MDF 100. And I threw that away. I also, I also,

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Picked Up Anguish

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in their mountain.

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Oh yeah, that was a good one.

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I also picked up, as I already mentioned,

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the Arcturus album Arcturian,

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Tau Cross,

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the band featuring the singer from Amoebix

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and Away, the drummer for Voivit.

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I picked up the new Shining album,

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which is called Nine,

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Shining Nine,

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Everyone, Everything, Everywhere Ends.

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I also got the new Unleashed album,

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Dawn of the Nine,

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And the album Death by Burning from Mantar. I listened to that the other day. That was actually really good. I was playing my game and I put that on Spotify. That was really good. It was on my list last year somewhere. It was further down but it was on there. Jay? Were those all Death Fest pickups? Yes, those all were, yeah. Alright, mine's a mixed bag. I had to stop somewhere so I just kind of limited myself to 10 here. A couple I've mentioned to you guys. One's a band called Sabbath Assembly.

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ER Gods, which I kind of want to pimp the people a little bit. It's not really a metal record. It's like this weird, acoustic record of this old 60s cult band and this new band went back and found their music and played it. Killer, weird record. Picked up 1349's Massive Cauldron of Chaos and White Vinyl. That's cool. Nice. I saw that at DeathFest and I thought to you if you wanted me to grab it, but you didn't tell me to grab it, so I didn't. I'm glad, too, because I got it. It's a cool package, too. It's one of those ones that came with some posters and shit. Cool package, dude. Got Candlemats.

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I really like that record, the heavy record. Since the last time, it's been a while since I got this, but I still wanted to mention it. I got Mastodon Leviathan signed, so that was cool. Yeah. Got God War, Constricting Rage of the Merciless, which I dig. That's one of my favorite bands. I got Rush 2112, and I got it because I do like that record, but also I wanted to get the little, got these pentagram holograms in the center, and that's cool. That's kind of a neat little thing that works. Right on.

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I got my Holy Grail, Celtic Frost, Monotheos recently. So happy. And then these ones are in the mail. But I have to mention them because Buke was kind enough to pick them up for me. He picked me up two Nile records, Inner Dark and Shrines, Annihilation of the Wicked, and Foundations of Burden by Paul Bearer, which has also been in heavy rotation with me still.

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those out for me, dude. That's why I'm his favorite, George. Yes. It's all about the presents. It's all about the presents. Just wait till Christmas. That's right. I'm going to send in my whole vinyl collection. It's kind of a relief, though, that we've got that up because we were going to do them the last pod so that those lists were getting a little too long. I know. Yes, they were. Yeah. Yeah, I had to leave things out because it would have just been like, and then it'd be like the Book of Genesis, really, honestly. It'd just be like, oh, and then I got this one, and then I got this one. Because I'm going to be gat.

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I thought of that one so I got this one.

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Alright.

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Well, I guess we're about ready to wrap this one up.

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Put it to bed.

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"Growth"

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I have been bought with you.

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You are the ones that

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Now is the end to day on God

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The truth looks scary at

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And this one time was outside us

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Now all the end is only remains

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The feeling will unfold you

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With this single body burn

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The dark and dark

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I'm trying to

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Don't you'll stay

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The philosophy

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The philosophy

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I'm still alive

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The danger, don't just know!

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"Dartful, Dart

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RELOTY

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Not the world in reality

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Away from the light

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You're carrying a rise

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I'm turning too loud

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Yeah, you feel the hell, boy, in the dead, dead

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No way from the light

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You're giving a right

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What did you do out?

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Laying me out

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I'll hear the death toll