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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, metal's my religion, and yeah, it's my dome. Standing in the thunder on stage in the pouring metal rain. What a feeling, baby, the lights are exploding.

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Hello and welcome to the Metalheads Podcast.

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My name is George, not Advokin, this is Buke. I'm a DJ. And we are joined by local Baltimore tech death metal band, Perihelion. What's up, gentlemen? And we are joined by? I'm Ansh, I play guitar and vocals. I'm Brandon, I play bass. Awesome. Gentlemen, how's everything going today? Pretty cool. Good. I mean, we're glad to be here.

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It's a cool place. I woke up earlier than usual. Didn't get lost in the middle of nowhere trying to find your way out here? Didn't actually. Yeah. Did you guys, because we've had, you know, the people who do join us, who've driven out here. Do you get to that point driving out here when you're like, where the fuck are we? We have that. Like when we were on tour, we had that all the time. All the time. We had to like the routes we would take sometimes like between Georgia and Tennessee, they would take us back into Georgia.

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to get to a different place in Tennessee. And we had to go into a different time zone for like an hour just to get somewhere else. And we're looking around and it all looks the same. So we're just like, no idea what the fuck happened. So you probably thought you were on tour again, coming here. Oh, yeah. Brought back bad memories. Great memories, actually, yeah. Probably like, if I hear banjos, I'm getting the fuck out of here. Too much. Unless you're revocating. I'm scared. So to bring the listeners into the fold here as to

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Why I asked you guys to come and join us like when we were talking when we met you guys earlier George Jay and I were always scouring Bandcamp we're always scouring the interwebs for new music new bands and stuff like that and I was on Bandcamp a couple weeks ago maybe a month ago or so first off I saw this sick album artwork thank you amazing yeah Mark Cooper for that really okay yeah same guy who did Rings of

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He has a budget section on his website. We immediately, we saw budget designs, $100 less. That was budget? Yeah, we got that and another design that we haven't released yet. We're planning that for another shirt. We got both of those for $100. Wow! And the album we're talking about is Infinite Decay. You can get that now. But I saw it in the first, again, drawn to the album artwork. I said, man, I have to check this out.

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You know a lot of artwork on Bandcamp. Yeah. Because it's pretty much anybody can upload it. Yeah. Looks like kid pics. Clip art from back in the day. You know? It just looks like it's fucking... Yeah. Looks like it's all stamped out, easy clip art stuff. I saw your guys' stuff, and I said, pretty interesting. I went in there at first, apprehensive it because I knew it was going to be death metal going into it. Yeah. And like George and I have said, a lot of death metal on Bandcamp sucks.

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Sucks there's a lot of music in general that sucks on band camp but there's a lot of really good stuff too so it's a lot of music everywhere yes but then I heard your guys stuff and I was fucking blown away thank you started me on this whole path where I'm at my listening the past couple weeks I'm been on this huge technical death metal kick now as technical as this stuff is and as young as you are when the fuck did you start playing yeah I actually started I don't know if you guys tell people do you tell

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How old you guys are? We only really tell them if they ask. Okay. Because they can see we're a lot younger than the other guys, like 25, 30. So we tell them if they ask. Okay. But we started music really young. I started on the clarinet in fourth grade. Right. I started playing Guitar Hero, which I was like, I like rock music. Guitar Hero was fun. I didn't pick up guitar. I did that for a little bit and ended up switching over to bass when I was about 15.

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After that, you know, we play a lot of jazz, play a lot of rock, metal, and then it just slowly got more into the technical stuff as I started learning, like, music theory. That's awesome. Yeah. Nuts. Something about, like, being younger, though, is that we are always the only band walking around with the stupid fucking exes on our hands. Yeah. Like, I might as well get this tattoo at all at this point. One time I went back to school, and one of the girls came out to me, one of my friends, she's like, oh, nice straight edge tattoos.

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So, guys, to be, you know, I don't know why I say it like this so young because you guys aren't kids, but to be, you know, young and playing such technical music. Okay, this is a podcast. Obviously, you guys can't see what happened. We just had a spillage of water. Yeah. We almost, uh, Brandon was trying to take out all the electronics in the room, so. I think we've avoided that.

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You've got to leave your bass player at home. From the bass player, don't take us anywhere. Jay's never brought his bass player here. And for good reason. Thank you, Jay. This is a smart move. I'm actually starting to wonder if you guys work for another podcast. Sabotage. So, you guys, I'm sure when you guys started listening to metal, you go, hate me if I'm wrong with this, you guys, did you start with, as you're sure

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Like the Fallujah and those death bands? No. When I started listening to metal, I started listening to like Iron Maiden and stuff. Of course. Good place to start. I pretty much had a natural progression of like Iron Maiden to like Metallica and like Thrash Metal and then into like more death metal stuff. That's the same path that we all took really. Pretty standard. Yeah. My story is like, it's a little more embarrassing, but I own it because it's how I got to

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where I am now. A lot of people are surprised when I say I'm not really that into old school like thrash metal. When I say I'm not a big fan of Megadeth, they get like, whoa, how? I listen to Metallica and all that. I was always more into the grunge and the classic rock. My first steps into metal, I actually hated it. I had a really, really good friend in middle school and he loved the hardcore, metalcore stuff, but I couldn't stand it. I just hung out with him so much that eventually

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I just kind of got used to it and eventually started listening to it myself. So I listened to a lot of metal chords to start out. Sorry about that. Thanks. Definitely don't do that now. You're not going to throw in some Fall Out Boy choruses? Oh, absolutely not. If you were to come in here wearing a metalcore shirt or something, we definitely would have locked the door. You would have every right to. I dropped that after about a year.

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I have to admit guys, seeing young kids in the metal scene, air quotes metal scene now, it's to a lot of them the metalcore bands. Those are the bands we play with. When we play local shows, it's all metalcore bands. That's what the kids think is the scene now. So like when I, after I started listening to that for a little bit, I started listening to more like death metal and like prog metal and stuff like that. I was like, this shit sucks. Yeah. I'm going to start listening to this more and then eventually got into like the tech death where we are. Yeah.

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I don't know I don't know I don't hate on music people people could just listen to whatever I don't really care every music is you can listen to what you want but yeah I like I like all metal except metalcore but right but then it's not really metal as far as I'm concerned it's it's shit so yeah I like all metal give us the history like I don't think that but so give us some history on the band here how'd you guys all meet and start to we were another guy we were in a like a

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It was supposed to be a prog, progressive instrumental. But really it ended up sounding more like math rock. It was out there. Early prog, like startup prog bands, you want to hear what an audible train wreck sounds like? Prog that sucks is that. You know, when they're throwing in bad solos and all this weird timey stuff, oh, it sounds horrible. Yeah, I remember, because I was friends with the drummer of that band that they were in. That's how I met him.

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actually ended up joining that band after they were around for about a year they asked me to be the bass player okay so of course i bring in like my six string bass i'm like we're gonna we're gonna prog this up you know and like it actually like what it ended up becoming was actually pretty cool but eventually him and i and the other guitarists wanted to do more like death metal stuff and the drummer's like i'm not having any of this so we're like all right well and then we all want to do this so it's up to you if you want to leave or stay you know so he left

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His parents said,

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"You gotta leave the metal band."

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And we're like, "For real?"

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And then so we became a tech death band.

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And what time frame is this around?

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This is about a year and a half ago.

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A year and a half, two years ago.

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I think we wrote most of the album that came out.

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Like immediately after.

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The first song we ever wrote for Perihelion was "Infinite Decay."

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Yeah.

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Which was under the working title "Riffage."

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Because it was the first song actually had like heavier riffs and whatnot.

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Right.

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And that was originally supposed to be for that old band, just called Upon Reflection. But, of course, it didn't fit the genre at all. And then the drummer ended up leaving anyway, and we became this death metal thing anyway. Yeah, we've only been known this for about a year, but it's been pretty cool so far. You would not fucking know it. We have been humbled, so humbled by the opportunity. Now I'm telling you guys, you would not know it at all. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Sight unseen, I would have thought you guys were older, had,

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two or three albums under your belt. You know, you guys have a very experienced sound. Yeah. Yeah. That's that means a lot. Yeah. We really appreciate that. Did you guys record this in a studio or did you do it like a home set up? We tracked like most of the songs at my house, basically. And then we kind of just had them sitting and we weren't really sure what we were going to do with them. And there's like a couple because our guitar player left. And so there's a couple of gaps for like these other solos.

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We got our guitar player that we have now and we've had for quite a while Sanjay and he also is really big into like engineering and stuff and like he's way better than any of us at all of that so he mixed the album and just kind of put it out and he did all self-recorded that's self-recorded this is why I'm such a stickler for production you know there's no reason for bands to have a completely shitty sounding record when you can get stuff that sounds like this and make

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it at home on a computer because the tools are there. Either you're fucking lazy or you're stupid or you don't care. Or you just want an atmosphere like that. I'm poking mostly at the black metal bands. But there's just no excuse. Unless it's the atmosphere you're going for, which I don't want to hear, there's no reason to not have at least a decent production. Something that's really cool now is you don't even really need an expensive guitar rig or anything because there's

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There's a lot of free impulse responses and presets.

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I've been getting into the recording stuff myself and I'm looking at, for plugins, they have bundles.

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So if you buy focus rights or whatever, they'll come in with focus right plugins.

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That bias effects that just came out, it's like $200 and it sounds amazing.

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So there's not a lot of inexpensive things that sound good and all it takes is practice.

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You're not gonna just get into it and then expect to release a top-notch album. You gotta record some stuff yourself and practice with it. Just demo tracks and whatever. You were gonna say also that there's all these tools that you were using? There's a lot of free stuff out there. Our guitars and bass on our album were actually done through an Axe FX. It's totally unnecessary. It's cool to have, but really... People have showed me stuff that they recorded

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a free Mesa Rectifier clone that they found online. And it sounds fucking awesome. If you just know how to dial it in and mix everything, you can make anything sound badass. That's what I was talking with George about the other day. One of the things I wanted to ask you guys with is that musicians growing up today, with the internet being what it is, the access to all this stuff is limitless. Yeah, that's really cool.

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You guys have grown up with this world that anything you guys want, you guys can go out there and find.

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Yeah, it's really...

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So you guys are all self-taught with all this stuff?

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No.

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Our drummer is actually...

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Our drummer is, and our other guitar player takes lessons, but we're both actually jazz majors at school.

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Wow.

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That'll do it.

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That'll do it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Now how is it when you're playing jazz and then you go and play this do people you play with or they're like oh you're playing that? I mean no it's totally different really like there's some stuff that like crosses over like there's some like chord voicings and stuff but for the most part in our music like jazz is one thing death metal is a different thing and like do you play jazz still? Yeah definitely. In a jazz band? Yeah like we have groups at school. Is it exciting? Oh yeah it's fun.

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It's so fun. It's a lot to think about. I actually, with the old prog band that we were talking about before, and even a little bit now, I still incorporate some jazz lines. A lot of chromaticisms and arpeggios and stuff. There's something I've seen with the guitarist from Revocation. Yeah. David Davidson. Yeah. He's, I aspire to be that man. He's trained, he goes to school for guitar music and stuff like that. That's

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what we were saying to it's they're so technical because i guess you guys have grown up with this yeah educated background in it too it it really shows in revocation i think more so than like any band who's tried to mix two genres like they did it so well and like the album was one of my top albums of the year last year yeah that was deathless was really amazing that was probably one of my favorite albums last year too but like yeah the way he incorporates the jazz stuff like without making it sound like he's just an

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who was trying to play jazz.

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Okay, so talking about you guys learning how to

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play and coming together and stuff like that,

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you guys just got done doing a short tour over the summer.

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Yeah.

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How did that go? How were you guys' experience there?

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How many dates did you guys play?

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We were gone for ten days and we played five shows, which kind of sucked.

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But overall, the tour was way better than I think any of us expected it to be.

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Because I came in expecting that we might have one good night,

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The rest were going to play to five people in some shitty club that nobody cares about. It was going to be an anvil thing. Most of that came from the Baltimore scene. Playing in Baltimore, nobody comes to the shows. A lot of the bands aren't very different from each other. Also, I didn't want to come into the tour having some kind of high expectations. This was your guys' first tour playing outside of Baltimore, correct?

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Yeah, it went really well. We were well-received. People were really nice to us everywhere we went. We were really surprised by not just the bands. I was just going to ask if you were opening for somebody or what was the setup. No, it was just us. A lot of it was the local shows, and we got put on there. Yeah. But coming from the Baltimore scene, it's not just about the bands. We have good bands, but it's mostly about the fans. The audiences, they'll only come out for the bands they came out to see.

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They don't stay for the other bands. And like when we would go, for example, we were in Michigan. We went to Lansing. We were blown away because there was like 30 people there. And that's like, we're like, damn, this is 30 people at a local show. This is crazy. And we had people apologizing to us like, man, you came out from Baltimore. You're playing such a small crowd. We're like, what the fuck? 30 people is not bad. This is a small night for us. This is one of the worst nights you've ever had. Are you kidding me?

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Not to speak for Jay, but you know, Jay being in his band, Jay's told me before, yes, would you guys like to play for a lot of people? Yes. But the love of playing the music. Right, right. Yeah. Well, but you know, but I have to say our experience is actually very similar to yours. Like, I think it's just because you're in such a big metropolitan area and us too. There's so many clubs and so many things and everybody's, there's all these young people. I mean, people don't, in the metropolitan areas, people don't go to shows unless it's,

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a big touring band that much. Believe me, we've played to five people a lot of times. And you're right, you really hit the nail on the head. People come to see their friends band and then they go home. But I understand it because sometimes bands aren't cool. But I just think there's just so much on the coast. That's why when you get in towards the Midwestern thing, I think those people are kind of starving for that. They need more. George and I have said it before.

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We are, at least before early on in this podcast, naive to the local D.C. metro area metal scene. We knew a couple bands, but really naive to it. Because we only go to the big touring bands that come through. Yeah, pretty much. How is this area for your guys' death metal tech? None I can think of. It's actually better than we initially thought. The thing is, there's nobody pulling

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It's like a lot of really great bands out there

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Yeah, but there are

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There's like I mean we have like condemn the infected

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Yeah, we have like actually a lot of really good like death grind bands that are out there that are like surfacing

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Which is cool. Yeah, just like George said like we're definitely having I feel like we're having kind of a resurgence

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And there's like a lot of cool bands. Yeah

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The thing is with that there was a lot of them don't play the venues that are known in the local area like in Baltimore

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Everything else is closing down.

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Except Sidebar.

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Shout out to Sidebar.

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Sidebar is fucking great.

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Sidebar has been around forever, and they're always cool to everybody.

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I love the Sidebar.

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Sidebar is like my favorite venue to play here.

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Did you guys go to Empire when it was open?

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I was there at the last show when Haken played.

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We never played there.

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We're friends with yesterday's Saints who played there also.

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That was a good show.

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Yeah, they've been here.

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We're going to be seeing them tonight.

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We'll talk about that later.

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But what's your guys' experience at Empire?

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I never had the pleasure to go, unfortunately.

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See, we've got an argument. I mean, Buk and I have been going there for 15 years, and the sound was never all that great, and I generally had some reason to be pissed off at the place, but he was happy that the place closed down, and I was not, because now all these bands that we will not see anywhere else, they're not going to come through here. I will admit, and Jay, I'll get to you,

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have been announced and I've seen posters and stuff they're not coming here through this area anymore you know made a super joint you super joint might have come here but oh no no no well hey we got cannabis corpse coming through at least yeah yeah so Jay what do you want to say buddy oh I was just gonna George was saying he generally had a reason to be pissed off at the place and you could have stopped after you generally had you were just generally pissed off

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But it's interesting to watch. I mean, I can since I can see you guys, you know that the

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Parahelion is on one side of the table you're on the other and literally these guys were like sort of witness

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It's like one of the last shows there and you guys you know, I mean like the age is becoming extremely obvious here

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I caught the last show there and you guys went there for 15 years. I think I think we're might be all used up guys

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Yeah, yeah, um

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Still going strong. George, just give them the fucking laptop and mixer. This is the new generation here. I didn't know that much about Empire, but last year, Summer Slaughter came through there, and Morbid Angel wouldn't even play. That's not the first time that happened. I guess the front man of Morbid Angel was not happy. A lot of bands didn't like dealing with Empire. Speaking about Summer Slaughter, a little news we're mentioning right now being a tech band, so Obscura had to do it.

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I'm not going anymore.

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Because up in PA there's a one-off show with Beyond Creation and Cal of the Cap.

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Two out of three bands we wanted to see.

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Headlining.

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And so that's the only reason I was going to go.

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Luckily for me, when Obscura dropped, I was like, damn, that sucks.

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Because the reason they had to drop sucks for them, it sucks for everybody else who wanted to see them.

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But me personally, I was like, yes.

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Because I'm out of the area.

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So I wasn't able to go anyway. So last year I missed some of my favorite bands

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because I was out of the area again and he was just sending me pictures like

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I was like, yeah, I'm front row right now, dude. I was like, I hate you right now. So check it out, man. Yeah, I know this is your favorite band. I'm having a great time right now.

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What was the reason they dropped out?

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What's that, Jay? Why did they drop out?

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Visa issues.

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They got Sodom. Yeah, they poured a Sodom. Guys, so a little taste of the road. Your first album out. Been a whirlwind year for you guys. So much more than a week. Obviously has not turned you guys off for doing this. It's not at all. It's not at all. It's flames you guys fire even more. Yeah, absolutely. Where are the next couple months? We're positive all this stuff. We kind of randomly got an offer last night to play at Louisville Death Fest.

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which is next weekend. So we took that which is exciting. That was out of nowhere. In the winter hopefully we'll be doing a tour somewhere. We're not totally sure yet because we have a couple options. We'd like to tour at least once a year probably in the summer. Ideally once in the summer once in the winter. Now you guys are at the age where love is in the air.

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This is when guys start to grow up, responsibilities start to hit you in the face. Now is when I hate trying to bring the atmosphere down, but now is when, not being in a band, but I could see you guys being tested over the next couple years and months and stuff like that. It could definitely be a lot to manage. As guys go to school or maybe find work and careers, start their families. But is everybody on board?

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Yeah, we're all on the same page. Our drummer is actually a little bit like what you're talking about now. He's like, I don't know if I want to get into this. It's a huge commitment. But now he's pushing stuff that we haven't even mentioned yet. We talked last week to Joel of Thrasenblatt. They're a band from Canada. With this age you live in with the internet, you guys still could do that band. You guys are in different parts of the country.

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He sends you his stuff and you put it all together and the band can still exist that way. Have you guys ever talked about that? Not really. That's kind of a little far out there right now. I mean, at the bare minimum we all have like two years of school left, which is like two years of like being able to have time to be in a band. Yeah, like we all have, we already all have jobs. You know, I was working two jobs and our drummer is working all the time and you know, so it was already hard for us to, you know, get together

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to begin with, but it's what we want to do. And we actually have fans now, so that's kind of cool. So we have people to let down. We're going to talk about this with one of our news stories, too. You guys, extremely intelligent guys. I'm already getting that from you guys. But you guys are not turned off by, and you guys already know, not to shatter any dreams here, that you guys aren't going to be living like Guns N' Roses in the 80s here. 500 strippers in the room.

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Fast cars, drugs, rock and roll. I mean, I don't think any of us got into death metal expecting that. Exactly. But you know what I'm getting from you guys, though? Might be able to eat one day. Maybe, dude. Look at him. Look how fucking skinny he is. All you guys. And all he does is eat when we podcast. Skinny, skinny, skinny, fat, fat.

00:26:37.860 --> 00:27:07.800
You guys all stay healthy because you're not you're in a band but it shines through you guys enthusiasm thanks you know it's and that's what you know if you guys keep that going should take you guys you know far yeah definitely I don't know like have you guys seen revocation like they're always out there just like grinding it out they doesn't matter what the situation is battlecross for example perfect example those guys have toured like

00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:37.800
340 days a year. 350 for the last 3 or 4 years. Nonstop. Yeah, you just gotta... Just get your fucking name out there. How else are you going to get out there? You have to physically be out there. Because nowadays, there's... Yeah, the internet's a great tool, but there's so much stuff on the internet that it's like... Yeah, nobody cares when they see your thing unless they already know it. Like, you have to physically get out there and throw it in their face. Yep. It's a blessing and a curse. You're absolutely right, man. It's sort of like...

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3 billion people, but so can 3 billion other bands.

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So it's just like, it's tough.

00:27:42.980 --> 00:27:43.800
It's a great point.

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That's why you gotta get out there.

00:27:46.460 --> 00:27:50.460
Yeah, I had a question earlier, but we sort of moved on.

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When you were talking about school, what do your families think about you doing this?

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Are they like, it's cool as long as you're in school?

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Pretty much.

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Be honest, be honest.

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Kind of, yeah.

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My parents have always generally supported my music, but once I started going on to the metal stuff,

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I could tell they still supported me, but they would rather me do a different genre. They push back with the woodwinds harder. Yeah, the woodwinds and the acoustic guitars. They support me, though, but they always worry about me on the road. Of course. All of our parents are fairly supportive. Good. That's nice, though. They're all fairly supportive. We're lucky to have them

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help us out with some of our finances. We're not even 21. We can't pay for everything ourselves. A lot of parents, rich or poor, would be like, well, this is what you want to do. You're on your own. It's a dumb decision anyway. All of our parents are very supportive of it. In school, have you guys found the metal kids, if there are any? There are none in mine. There's one guy that wears a black Dahlia murder shirt sometimes.

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He's the tallest like not the fattest but the biggest he's like 6'7" and like walks around. He's like lurch. He's a cool guy though. He's like president of the humans versus zombies club which is like you know. You guys go to school around here? Yeah we all go to school in Baltimore. Cool. In the area. Yeah. I mean I found pretty metal people around Towson. Did you say you were, are you guys going to school for music? Yeah.

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Yeah, we're both. The two of us are jazz majors. So you go, oh, is it an art school or is it just like a college and you're taking the music courses? I just go to a normal college, but we have a pretty big music department at my school and it's like a screen major, so it's pretty cool. Right now? Yeah, mine is, I almost went to his school actually. We both auditioned, we made it, but I ended up going to a smaller school. It was just more like for the music classes, I prefer like

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is it exactly like whiplash?

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It's worse.

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It's so much worse.

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How is a fucked up movie?

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Yeah, no, it's worse. They're emotionally throwing chairs at you.

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There's no happy ending.

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You just leave with a bunch of school dead.

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I got it.

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For the record, actually, the ending of Whiplash was not a happy ending.

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You would have gotten in a lot of trouble for that shit.

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That was not cool.

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I don't know that's like they went on to be the greatest of friends

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That's a hard movie to watch man. It was I gotta ask you about your playing fucking sick brother. Thank you sick

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Like Jay I could watch you strap on

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Webcam and play

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But not you

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What's that all about? Why are you leaving them out? I love base guys, but then, you know, I want to see this for a second right now. We'll get back to the base for a second. The guy was kind of on edge there, because he kind of paused after a strap-on, and I thought, where are you going? I'd love to see you just put a strap-on and play with your guitar. How long have you been playing? Well, I think I probably started playing seriously when I was like 14, so like,

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5 years or so but I mean I had a guitar when I was like 9 but well my one-year-old has a little Fisher-Price guitars do it I started playing guitar at 15 I still cannot play well I can but not well nowhere in your league you just gotta have like no friends and nothing to really do in high school I think that's why I still I still didn't learn how to play well he still has no friends it's because I have short fat stubby fingers that just I can't reach anything good musician

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you meet is just like a little off. All we do is practice. Now, taking what you're being taught in school and you're learning, how's that application transfer over to playing death metal? Well, I think everything, you know, we have Western music theory here and pretty much everything's been based on that. So I wouldn't say it's necessary to write music or anything.

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But like it's cool to have like an understanding of like the roots of stuff

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Yeah, like adding on to that for death metal. It's totally not necessary

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Yeah, just like you in school those it important this goes over my head

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Music theory and stuff. Yeah, it's fine

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Important goes over my head school is definitely important the only real time we've utilized music theory

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I don't think that was the whole question. No, I was I was gonna say do you?

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maybe subconsciously or following

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some thing you may have learned in school when you're writing your music or

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Kind of you're kind of mean to some extent, but I think most the album was written before we actually went to school

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Well, I started I was learning music theory in high school

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so he would you start and you started I mean I knew music theory, but I wasn't like so we

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We wrote most of the album two of us Sanjay wrote common transference and all the goods

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And a lot of the solos. So we would incorporate some theory into our writing. Mostly in the solo sections. Figuring out the key that the solo is in. So that way you can create a good solo. Yeah, do you try this Hungarian minor scale? One of our songs actually has a Hungarian minor scale. Completely by accent. Because that was the riff we wrote under the solo section. So we had to figure out what key that was in.

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So Sanjay just used Dorian. Okay, now. Yeah, that's the other thing, knowing what you can replace and still have it fit the key. With your guys educated minds now in this field, because we all take experiences in education we learned when we apply it to different things that we do, do you find yourselves, when you're listening to music, sometimes you've got to kind of tell yourself, hey, stop. Dissecting. Dissecting it.

00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:54.760
As you're listening to it. I mean, sometimes. Sometimes I'll hear things in solfege and that really pisses me off. Because I don't even like listening to solfege. I wish I didn't have to take a class on it. I'll hear shit and I'll be like, oh, that was a three chord. I'm upset that I knew that. For me, it's like, I'll listen to the music and then I'll hear an arpeggio and I'll immediately try to figure out what the chord was. Is it like a seventh chord? Is it a major minor?

00:34:55.480 --> 00:35:25.000
What is it? And as the song keeps moving, I'm still trying to figure that out. It's just a reflex. I'm just like, stop it. And then if I just happen to miss it or whatever, I have to go back and listen to it until I get the chord. That's too much. It's only really one to buy myself a little bit. As you learn more music theory, do you find yourself listening to older classical metal albums and going,

00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:55.020
Oh man, what the fuck are they doing there? That's out of key. That's ultimately, your music is about feeling. Old metal albums were so, like, you could still listen to, like, And Justice For All, and, like, every song on there has these riffs that are still, like, cooler than, like, every riff you'll hear today. There's some badass riffs on those old records. Ultimately, it's about feeling. You know, I only use music theory as a tool. I think it's something people should learn if you play music, and especially if you call yourself a musician.

00:35:55.500 --> 00:36:25.420
you should have some basic theory knowledge. Yep. As the, George, I'm trying to formulate my questions so I'm not an idiot here, as Jay laughs at me. Not going to happen. Yeah, not going to happen. I just thought that question actually started like this. You literally sound like your body is breaking down from all this knowledge. As generations, you know, grow up and listen to metal, as you, you know, further, further, further along from when,

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Metal started with the Sabbaths and the priests. Do you guys give those early bands still their respect and as much props as Black Sabbath and them do? Absolutely, they definitely do. As like something like George or Jay would? We wouldn't even be here if they hadn't started. I asked because I just wondered if along the way, generations, it was lost. A lot of guys I know, like not even in the Metal genre, just a lot of people that I've talked to about music in general.

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Like the classic stuff a lot of people are like, you know, it sucks

00:36:59.670 --> 00:37:03.720
I don't really like it anymore. It's old. I was Brandon doesn't listen to Pantera

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Brandon I put on Pantera. He's like, I don't like this

00:37:06.940 --> 00:37:10.760
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's what started me. That's not what I said. That's all I said. I like

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I hate Pantera. He says turn this off

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I'm sick of it. I like Pantera, but always in the back of my mind. I'm like damn Phil Anselmo's a racist

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I don't dislike the riffs, I just kind of have a problem with them. I had to get over it. Their music is good. It's solid metal. I just don't listen to it because I just can't get over that. Yeah, well. I can't disagree with that. I can definitely get over it. It's Pantera. I can't be upset about it. He'll play me like Cowboys from Hell. This is really good. Some of the solos that Dimebag plays is crazy.

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I thought his name was Dimebag.

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You know, there was a brief period of time, probably late 80s, early 90s, where all the magazines and everything, they called him Diamond Daryl.

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Because nobody wanted to say Dimebag.

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And eventually that just went away.

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Good.

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Diamond Daryl.

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So when it came time for you to start trying to scream, you know, how did that go? Our vocalist left two weeks before TOR. Oh shit. No notice. He just, he's like, hey guys, I'm leaving. He was like, yeah, I'm, bye. So we were like, all right, well, I guess we got to find a new vocalist. Who can learn all the songs. We gave it like a week and we were like, this isn't working. So I was like, all right, I guess I'll do them.

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Luckily, he doesn't suck at vocals. I was there for all his practice in the car. I sit in my car on the way to school. Yeah, it was awesome. I was just going to say, give us a quick line of something with our vocals. That's awesome. I can't do that. I can get two or three words out, and then I start coughing. I can't do it. You hear these

00:39:20.820 --> 00:39:50.720
Big names in the scene, they say it's an instrument. Your death metal voice is an instrument. And you really got to work on it and take care of it and practice it. So you don't blow it out. I know you guys were joking around earlier, but you said after your first tour, your necks were hurting you for a couple weeks. Head banging every day. How'd your throat hold up? It was okay. It mainly hurt after shows sometimes if I didn't drink enough water. But usually it was gone.

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by the next day.

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Did you guys, you know, I'd like to, you guys have mentioned a couple of times that you felt like you had like a lot of great opportunities and exciting things this year. Like, what are some of those? What are some of the things that you've been really pleased and proud that have happened?

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Well, when we first released the record, we were in a motel, or I think a super, we were in a super eight in Nashville.

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No, no, no, no. It was the middle of nowhere Kentucky.

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No, there was a pizza hut in Kentucky. There was something different. There was something different in Nashville. It was Nashville because we talked to Malcolm that day. So we were in a Super 8 in Nashville. And we released the album because we had Wi-Fi. It was a Best Western. That's what it was. It was a Best Western. We've been selling the physical copies in the previous shows on tour, but we did the official digital release in that.

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So it's sort of anticlimactic right? You're like well, you want to hit the vending machine now? Well, it's out there now. And then we did it and like the response was really cool. I was looking through your guys Facebook last night trying to do some research. I see one of you guys made a post like it's on some Russian torrent site or something. Now you know you made it. Like Jay said the same thing. Once it hits the torrent sites and some Russian guy starts downloading it, you guys have fucking made it.

00:41:19.560 --> 00:41:49.540
I think you should you probably have googled yourselves but ours when we released it and not to make it about me is just I think it's all about me it's all about me it's probably on a million Russian torrent sites and I think ours was up in like 24 hours so yours probably was too I had never thought to check them and then I checked and like I saw perihelion infinite decay and then a bunch of stuff that I couldn't read so I clicked on it and I google translated it and I was like damn

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I was like this is like a thousand dollars worth of downloads right here.

00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:57.000
Yeah, exactly.

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A tear rolled down his face.

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He's like, oh, fuck it.

00:42:01.200 --> 00:42:04.060
At the end of the day, like people have the music.

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I'd rather people have the music than not have the music.

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And like, I'm assuming most of those people wouldn't actually bought it.

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So like, it's cool.

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Guys, to be, you know, to be guys in school who just fucking released an album that was at least been downloaded a couple thousand times.

00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:24.480
maybe not legitimately how's that fucking make you guys feel that's pretty i i mean this this

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whole band is humbled me ridiculously every like i we're we're all aware of the

00:42:29.240 --> 00:42:32.960
opportunities we're getting but every opportunity don't you fucking forget it you're on this podcast

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this is where it all starts this is this is the pinnacle of their career right here like it's all down here from here boys

00:42:38.820 --> 00:42:45.039
the fact that like art spire one of the biggest tech death bands one of our favorite bands drops a show

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and we got contacted to replace them. It's ridiculous. We can't believe that this stuff happens to us. So that's why we brought you guys here. George, lock the door. When Maryland Death Fest in like five to ten years comes around and they're headlining, you fucking think about us, boys. I will. You think about us. I will. I'll be in the front row of my wheelchair. These guys don't remember us. They're all fucking blown up now.

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Where were those losers we sat in the basement that one time? Yeah, their parents were upstairs. You spilled water on the guy's mixer and like, that was a dick move. So, you know, we're all, unless Jay, you got anything else? We're rolling into the episode here. I mean, like, about the torrent, so like, I'm not even mad that people are torrenting it, honestly, because that means they want it, first of all, and second of all, I am totally guilty of

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Torrenting some albums. I try to buy them as much as possible because not only are you supporting the band, but you're supporting them financially. And especially in the metal community, a lot of these bands need that. But again, being in a situation, I sometimes wanted to support a band, but I can't afford to buy three or four albums at a time. So I want to support the band. I want to listen to the music. I'll torrent it, but I'll plan on buying it later. And even so, it's still a support. And ultimately, we just want our fans to hear our music.

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Are you guys too young for Napster? I've heard of Napster. I've heard of it. I've never used it. I remember lying when I was there. I used Napster temporarily. The thing that changed the face of the music industry. It started to bring it all fucking down. And he's like, I've heard of it. When Napster came out, it was awesome, man. It was the best. I used to use Napster to just get stuff I couldn't find.

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It was all shit. It was like, oh, it's a bad, you know, a shitty fucking bitrate. All the file names were wrong. Yeah, or one of the songs was missing. That's like my pet peeve about torrents when the files are misspelled. On Napster, a lot of the fucking files are those ones with the beep track. Yeah, that's true. I never review anybody that sends me a beep track fucking promo. I get most of my music through promos from the labels.

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So I will still go out and then buy something off Bandcamp to support a band that I've reviewed that I really like. I'm like, they'll send me the MP3. And I don't do MP3s anymore. I do FLAC files because I prefer the higher fidelity. And so, you know, a band will send an MP3 and I'll be like, oh, it's cool. Review them or put them on the podcast or whatever. And then I'll go out and buy it on Bandcamp to support the band. So I still do my part more than most people probably. I'm sure one of our favorite bands,

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is InFury.

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And the guitar player is Malcolm that we were talking about earlier with the Best Western.

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He messaged us reviewing our album.

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I love the album, one of their albums, Path of Apotheosis.

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But I don't have it on my phone because I don't want to torrent it.

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He's our friend.

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He's our friend.

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You can't do this to you.

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He's a cool guy.

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We've actually met him now.

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He plays with snakes.

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Right.

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So I don't want to torrent it.

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But I can't buy it right now.

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Because I just don't have $10 to spare.

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And so I just want to wait.

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I want to tour in our friend's album who said he likes our album.

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And he's like, I don't want to do that to him.

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Thanks, I'm glad you like our album.

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By the way, I'm going to go steal yours now.

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Wow.

00:46:34.680 --> 00:46:38.400
Well, George, do you want to take a break and roll into the hospital?

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Do you guys need a water or are you guys good to go?

00:46:40.410 --> 00:46:42.380
No, I don't think you should have any more water.

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All right, we're back from our break. And before we get into the main part of the podcast, we're going to play a song from Infinite Decay by Perihelion. The first song we're going to play is the title track, Infinite Decay. Can you guys take a minute to tell us a little bit about the song? And you mentioned it a little bit already. This is the first song that I think we wrote for this band. And also, it's been like, we've opened every show with it except for one. And that show didn't go well because we didn't open it.

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with that song. Superstitious. So like, yeah, this is like, it's like our opening song. So I guess it's cool. Oh, hey, there you go. That's why I put it on there. Also, we, uh, we named the album after the song purposefully. Cause we like, we, we as music listeners as well, we know when we listen to an album and we see it has a title track or like, this better be like the best fucking song in the album, you know, master of puppets. So we're, we're trying what we, we took like our favorite song pretty much from the album.

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and titled that as the album name. And also it just matched the artwork so well.

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Did we actually do that?

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Yes!

00:47:48.580 --> 00:47:50.300
No, I'm pretty sure we got together and said,

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should we just call the album Infinite Decay?

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We were right there in the room.

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We wrote it on the whiteboard.

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We'll just call it Infinite Decay.

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They have a whiteboard, dude.

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They are organized.

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We do have a whiteboard.

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Alright, well, check it out.

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This is Infinite Decay.

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"Depadly"

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I should be no other, so without information, I don't have a lot of us to be fine.

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I just want you're fucking right

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I just want you're fucking right

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I just want you're fucking right

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Deeper and deeper, I'm gonna try to find a life that can't destroy

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I'll find the life

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Nothing is finding

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Nothing is for everything

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The power you crave

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What is terrible?

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DUNKEY!

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I don't

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It's not existed

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Just match the breath

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Then it's not existed

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I don't know

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Come to turn all they want it

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Back into the vivid

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Moration got

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Now

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I am the imposition

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No salvation!

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No salvation

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All right, that was Infinite Decay by Perihelion.

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Oh, the solid tune right there.

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The guys are going to be sticking around with us today,

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so you'll be hearing them throughout the rest of the podcast.

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And of course, stick around to the end,

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we will play you another song off the album Infinite Decay. If you haven't heard yet, Maryland Death Fest tickets have gone on sale. So make sure if you're in the area or if you're planning to come to the area that you pick up your tickets. I've got my tickets. Jay's got his tickets. Our friend John, he got his tickets. Bukes, probably going to wait to the last minute like he always does. I'll get him now. You guys been to a Death Fest ever from the area? I unfortunately have not. We only went to our first last year.

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We're hoping to play it next year. Hopefully. Hopefully. Something tells me you'll be headlining next year. That would be insane. That would be crazy. Stranger Things Have Happened. Anyway, so, you know, tickets are out there. Go get them. It's going to be a cool show. I think. It's a very, very cool show. It's huge. One of the biggest death metal festivals around. At the very least, it'll be a bunch of cool people hanging out in a parking lot. We had a

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We did.

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We did.

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Yeah.

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Drank beer.

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Watched bands.

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Slept in cars.

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Spooned a little.

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We think our tour was.

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There was a lot of spooning.

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Deep caressing.

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Yep.

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Those lonely nights on the road.

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Yes.

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It can get to you.

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So I wanted to mention that I recently started reading the new book by Randy Bly, Dark Days,

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A Memoir.

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One of the first things I learned in the book was that it's pronounced Randy Bly. Oh, dude, I was just going to say. Are you serious? I always pronounce it Randy Bly. I found that out right when you said that. Like when you're like this new book by Randy Bly, I was like, is he talking about it? One of the first things he says in the book is nobody can say my name right. It's Bly, like fly. I was like, okay, Randy Bly. It's like Captain Bly. The second half of his last name was silent.

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He said the TH is silent. So Randy Bly has a book out. My world is shattered. It's called Dark Days, a memoir. I'm about 60% through the book. That's what my Kindle tells me anyway. How is it so far? It's really good. It's inspiring. Makes me want to be not quite such a piece of shit. He's very regimented. Is he honest?

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in it like brutally yeah yeah and it's pretty interesting it's pretty depressing uh and it also makes me enjoy the new lamb of god album a little bit more because i'm reading the book and i could go and read the lyrics and i'm like okay well still echoes is completely about the uh guillotine that was down the hall from his cell where the the nazis used to just guillotine tons of people and uh and then the song 512 is his cell number and uh he's got some pretty

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the event where the fan died occurred in the book yet yeah it did he realize it had

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happened no he didn't had no idea it's funny because well the the czech police and uh court system is

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pretty fucked up compared to the american one and they basically had him thinking that he did it

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wow because well i mean he didn't have anything to go on they wouldn't let him even see a picture

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the kid. So he had no idea what he looked like. But then he saw video of it and he saw photos and he remembered this kid that he had throttled on stage because the kid kept coming up on the stage and there was no security. And he was like, oh man, I probably killed that kid. But that wasn't even the one that died. So he has no memory of the kid that died. And that's ultimately why he was let go. There was no proof of anything that he had done anything.

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I've always said the very class act on his part too, where he could have just stayed here in the States and never gone back. Yeah. Went back to face it. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So it's a good read. Check it out. Cool, man. That sounds awesome. I'm totally reading. Did you guys see as the palace is burned yet? I started. I haven't finished it yet. So you had ought to. I mean, it's, I have a feeling this is obviously more detailed, but I'm totally, you totally sold me on that. George, I'm going to pick it up. Cool. George, I remember reading on the news,

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around the time didn't even sound like the not guilty came out that he felt safe. Really? Well, reading the book, did he feel not guilty? Obviously, he went back. I haven't gotten that far yet. No, obviously, he went back knowing he did nothing wrong. He's getting ready to be released on bail. The whole situation, you know, the band had to scrape together $200,000 bail to get him out. Wow. And they paid it, and they didn't let him out. Because their judicial system,

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and the prosecuting attorney can object. And so then they have to go through another few weeks of court proceedings to decide whether or not to uphold the objection. And so then they just finally decided, okay, you can have your bail, but you have to pay twice as much. So they had to scrape together another $200,000 before they would let him go. So that's fucked up. This is kind of riveting. So guys, whenever fans get on stage out, just hug them. I usually do.

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Kill them with kindness. Yeah. Or maybe just don't kill them. For sure. So I gotta ask, I spent last weekend in the car driving from here to Pittsburgh and Cleveland, and when I'm in the car with my wife, we pretty much institute the, if you're driving, you control the radio. Yeah. And I was driving, and Anthrax was on with Among the Living. And I'm like, driving, and you know,

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I'm enjoying myself. It's a classic song. Don't hear it enough. About halfway through, she's like, this is boring, and changes the fucking channel on me. I'm like, you don't do that to a man. And so I just wanted, has anybody else ever had their woman go and just change the channel on an awesome song? No, I wouldn't be dating you. I would not be married to my wife. My wife, when I get in the car, first off, she never drives unless under the influence or sick or when, you know,

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It's proper for her to drive when it's time. Yes, women are not allowed to drive. Yeah, that came off as a... Yeah, I mean, she only drives if I'm too drunk, too. Bitch knows her place. I'm the one who drives here. That's fucked up. I wanted to be like, babe, just relax, go on Facebook, go on Twitter, just be pretty, don't have a job, just, you know, let the man do all the manly things. On top of that, guys, she goes.

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She grew up. She's an NSYNC girl. So if she gets the radio, it's pop. I'm telling you. Sorry. So I get in the car, I'm like, hey, babe, do you want to listen to the radio? Knowing, because the question's asked, do you want to listen to the radio? No. It's always metal. I've lived with my girlfriend for over two years, and she hates metal. That's a lot for kids your age now. Good for you. Thank you. Love her to death. She hates metal. She says it.

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It's scary and it makes her cry sometimes. I had a friend of mine, she went to a Slayer show with us and she cried because the pit was so crazy. Right. My girlfriend got bit during the faceless. And she said, man, that was metal. Yeah, it was pretty metal. Yeah, it was for you. Anyway. Yeah, so like, if I put on, you know, because we listen to like, I listen to death metal in the car, you know, like I was talking about before, it's not like the classic thrash metal. So it's like real heavy stuff. And she,

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will tolerate it. He just said thrash metal isn't heavy. He said, man. I listen to heavy stuff. I listen to that pussy stuff. Stupid thrash metal bullshit. I listen to heavy stuff. Thank you very much. Thank you. Anthrax is going to have words. She supports Perihelion. She supports me and everything, but she'll let me have the music on as long as that's an audible volume of four or five. Other than that, she'll let me put on Mumford and Sons,

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and she'll put that loud, you know. He bumps Mumford and Sons, so that's his jam. I don't have any guilty pleasure bands because I'm not ashamed of what I listen to. You're looking at the big one right here. I've got two Mumford and Sons albums on vinyl upstairs. He just thought to himself. He thought about getting up and leaving. This isn't very metal. You can't listen to other kinds of music. Are you serious? I didn't used to. When I was in high school, it was like,

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I was in high school in the late 80s and early 90s. Anything that wasn't like thrash, you were posers. The poser era. In middle school, I hated anything that was made after 1985. I was like, all new metal sucks. So I'm going to just listen to Slayer. But eventually, after I got out of school and I was out long enough, because in high school and stuff, I hated all the music that the people I hated liked. And so it was all the,

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I still hate that stuff. But by like four or five years after high school, I was like, eh, all right, you know, I could listen to some U2. It's not bad. Yeah. Well, their original stuff is better, though. Yeah. Yeah. I think you guys could order and have a child. Then you can really start to mold. Man, back in my day. My daughter and I spent the morning today watching Opus Fakins set. I would like to thank my dad for getting me to the music I am. I was listening to like Zeppelin.

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And the Beatles went when I was like four. So by the time I was like ten and my friends were listening to, like you're saying, all the pop stuff like NSYNC and Backstreet Boys, I was like, I'm ready to listen to some Rush. Yeah. There you go. My children are going to grow up on Slam. I'm going to make them grow up on B. Trinity. The first song, when they're still in the womb, I'm going to put the speakers up and play Throat Fisting Abortion. It's this guy here. And see how they feel about it. Because I feel like

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It's a good way to start your life off. It's a good way to have a miscarriage. Jay, never had that problem? Never happened to me. Sorry, I wish I could kind of chime in and tell you it had, but it just... Does she just sit there and take the metal, or do you just not play it? Well, we play some metal and some of what she wants to listen to. Yeah, take the D. And I don't think she gives a shit what we listen to. I created a playlist for my girlfriend that's just not metal stuff. Oh, you may hear a mixtape. Yeah, dude, check out this mixtape.

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So kids don't make mixtapes anymore, they make playlists. Aww. That's adorable. So it's basically everything on my phone besides the death metal. Let's play that first. Cool. Let me ask you this. What's her name? Sarah. Is the name of the playlist Sarah? No. Driving with Sarah. I named the playlist Gay.

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Wow. Wow. I know that totally says like. How very not appropriate in this day and age. I know. I know. Like if. George edited it out. It's okay. No. You look at my beliefs in the issue like. And then you see the name of the playlist and you're just like. Why would you. You know like. Yeah. There's nothing to do with my beliefs. Look at your bandmate here. He looks embarrassed of you. He's like oh my god. I can't believe I play bass with the.

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He's kissed more guys than girls.

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Yes!

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Hey!

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Drunk nights in the bar!

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Have you kissed...

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I have!

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I'm just like...

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I play in a comedy slam band on the side.

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I'm pretty sure I've kissed every member of that band.

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We, on the last night of tour, we kissed a celebration.

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Did we?

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You know, he doesn't even remember it.

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Oh dear.

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We went back to his house and had a party.

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And I was like...

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Oh jeez!

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He was like, man, I've kissed so many guys, I can't believe I haven't kissed you yet. That's why these guys are going to make it. Maybe right now we can get our first mail-on-mail podcast kiss. I guess that's pretty slim. Yeah, it is. That's how bands make it today, Jay. You don't have to tell me. I have to repeat a joke.

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that Buke joked to me not long ago via text. And we were talking about how we have no gaydar whatsoever. I could work with a guy in a dress, you know what I mean? And I'm not stereotyping or something. And somebody would tell me they were gay. And I'd be like, Jack's gay? What are you talking about? And I was telling this to Buke. And Buke said, oh, he said, no, man. He said, I could run into a guy blowing another guy. And I'd think, ah, he lost a bet. You're like, what, you drop your keys? Anyway. No, we've always said that.

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If there was ever like an anti-gay rally, we would just start making out in front of them just to piss them off. Like, we just have no tolerance for that stuff, you know? Yeah, that's bullshit. No tolerance for intolerance. Yeah. That's not slam. All right, I've got a little rant. Every once in a while, I have a little rant that I go off on. I'm excited. This one's not going to be that animated. Just push the mic away. I'll let you have it go, Reggie. This one's called Fuck Stupid People and Their Love of Short Podcast.

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Here we are, we're a little bit over our first hour into the podcast. We haven't even cracked the surface yet. Me and Buke and Jay were talking the other day. I don't know, who was it? Somebody was saying, I think it was Jay, how some people had said the podcast was too long. Because, you know, our podcasts are known to hit four hours long. And, uh, fuck those people. What kind of fucking pussy are you that you can't listen to a podcast that's longer than an hour? What, do you have to go for your fucking bedtime or something?

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What the hell? It's not like it's live like you can't stop and come back to it

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Well, if you look at like how like a lot of like article based websites are lined up these days

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Like most of them all their shit is compiled in lists. Yeah, cuz dumb people like lists

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They all have fucking ADD like this joke over here sit there and read detailed stuff

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So you could skim through you can get all the points and read like ten sentences. Yeah. Yeah, not even sentences

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There's bullet points. Yeah, like our fucking script. Yeah, like our script. But yeah, I'm like, how fucking lazy are you? I mean, if you want to listen to a podcast, listen to a podcast. If you want to listen to a fucking news clip, then fucking go watch TV or something. But frankly, I'm not going to name any names, but there's some podcasts out there that I like that I feel like there just isn't enough meat on their bones. It's like they talk for 10 minutes, do an interview, and then I'm like, I want more.

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I mean, I can't even sit through an hour podcast myself because I don't have time. I listen in the car, I listen here and there or wherever, and I'll do it in 15, 20 minute little bites. I'll pause it and I'll come back to it later. If we were a hardcore weekly every week four hour podcast, I could see where people might not have time to get through that. But when you're only doing like two a month, what the fuck are you complaining about?

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everything except when it comes to a podcast apparently yeah so or information yeah while we're on this

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tangent here of like unrelated stuff i'd like to point out that these headphones you guys gave us are

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really cool the motor headphones because they say motor headphones on the side yeah and it has like the

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motorhead font and everything these are really cool yeah i like them i think you should just get lemmy's

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mustache i might and i just get rid of that right there in the mole yeah yeah it might be better and i can start

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Yeah, and you have to set the mic way up.

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Every time I see them live, it's so funny because he looks like a midget.

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Because the mic is up here coming down and he's looking up at it like that.

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I was like, are you really that short?

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Or is it just like...

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I don't know, maybe he does it to open up his throat?

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Because he's always done it that way.

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He's the only person I prefer.

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I think it has to do with the way he sings.

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I mean, the way he has to sing.

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Jesus Bates!

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Sounds like throat cancer.

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I love him, though.

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He's great.

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Yeah.

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He's getting up there though, man. He looks pretty. Now we've talked about that before. He's just starting to look kind of scary.

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But he's like.

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He's always been pretty intimidating.

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Yeah.

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Like the biker look, you know.

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The mall.

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The mall.

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It's just always staring at you.

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Yeah.

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It's like the fourth member of Motorhead.

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I don't know.

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It's usually three people, I think.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, why don't we get into some news?

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This first item I'm going to pass over to Jay. Mastodon is doing a tour with Judas Priest, or probably the other way around is a better way to put it. But I thought that was kind of cool news. They've opened for all of the cool bands, all of the cooler bands. They opened for Maiden, Metallica. So this is one to check off their bucket.

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I don't know if I'll even go there they're playing in San Jose which is like an hour

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from me an hour to get there but I think I think I just heard there was a show closer to me so I might

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actually go to that but I don't know I mean I've seen also I think priest is a little bit past their prime

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so I don't know if I'm gonna go yeah so and I've and I've seen them I've seen both of them plenty of

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I don't know but it's kind of interesting news nice to see kind of new school old school getting together doing a tour like that are you are easy that will you make any attempt to go now I saw Mastodon on that tour they did with Gojira mm-hmm that was I mean obviously both those bands are pretty awesome fucking banner yeah this huge banner on the back like I don't know how you get artwork drawn to that detail but yeah cool they're all

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Yeah, we saw them. At least I saw them with Down and Ghost. That was a good tour. Priest is a classic, of course. He's lost a step. I mean, Rob Halford can't sing like he used to, but they're still worth seeing if you've never seen them. I can't sing like he used to either. So, before I get into this next one, I have to ask you guys, being younger, have you ever seen Ghostbusters? Yes. Okay.

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Items About That. If you haven't heard, they're filming a reboot of Ghostbusters with All Women or something. I just heard the other day that they put out a call for Metalheads in Boston. Yeah, I saw that. It was on Metal Sucks, I think. I didn't get a chance to read the article, but the title was like, well, it was pretty cool. I wonder what they're going to be using specifically Metalheads for. Yeah, and obviously they want a group of Metalheads, so there's going to be a concert or

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I just hope they know to turn away hardcore kids. Yeah. Make sure you don't get metalcore kids. Actually, I have a prediction about this, and it's that there'll be a sort of some band is going to accidentally raise a demon or something, and they're going to have to go put it down. See, now that would be cool. Yeah, that would be cool. I'm willing to bet it's going to be something like that. And there'll be some one embarrassing shot where there's like one stoner-looking metalhead guy going,

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"FAR OUT MAN!"

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This is the big show.

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It's probably actually high though, he's a metal head.

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Count on it.

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Yeah.

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It's actually just an outtake they got.

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In one set.

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You know what, it's stock footage probably.

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You know what I mean?

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It ends up in every movie.

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If you need any outtakes for your movie, just film metal heads getting high.

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Yeah, well hopefully it's more than like the Cannibal Corpse in the Ace Ventura where

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it was just sorta, they're playing on the stage.

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That was funny though.

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Yeah.

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Well, I'm pretty sure Jim Carrey only did that because he actually loves cannibal. Yeah, that's what they said. I think that on its own is hilarious. You look at Jim Carrey and you're like, there's no way this guy is a metalhead. And you're like, damn, he loves cannibal. He loves his metal. Cool. All right. So the band Satan is streaming a new song called The Devil's Infantry from their forthcoming album, Adam by Adam, which is going to be released in October. Has anybody heard that yet?

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I'm interested to hear it. It wasn't bad. They're like a new wave of British heavy metal band from back in the day. It still sort of sounds new wave of British heavy metal, but it didn't sound too bad. Did I see them at Death Fest next year? Yes, they are. That's one of the bands that I'm like, you're supposed to like these bands. That'll be probably a convincing beer. Every year the Death Fest lineup is released, I'm like, I'm a terrible metal head because I've never heard of half these bands.

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There's a lot. Yeah. There's so many out there. Right. Spread out over different venues. I'm looking through the list of 50. I'm like, oh, I know that one. I know that one. We got started doing listening exams. Honestly, guys, we haven't heard a lot of them either. Yes, we haven't heard some of them. I want to suggest you look at the poster for the California Death Fest. When you say we haven't, you mean this half of the room. This guy over here. I've heard a lot of them. Yes.

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I really want to suggest you look at the California Death Fest poster. It's put on by the same guy. But it's all of these black metal band names that you can't read. And then right in the middle is this one band called Party Cannon. And it's written like in a Toys R Us. It looks so hilarious on the poster. That's actually a really good show, though. I think Fallujah and Origin are the headliners for one of the days. Yeah, there's not enough there to really get me to go.

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from my house. But hey, Maryland Death Fest, man, Venom, that's what I'm all about. And Satan, that's cool that Satan's going to be there. I saw them last year and they were great. So another news item that Jay told me about was that Arab Altor, is that how you say it? Arab Altor are doing an album of Bathory covers. Yeah, I guess they're like huge fans. Yeah, well, that's a good thing to be because Bathory's pretty fucking awesome. Yeah. We don't have any...

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So we don't have any info yet that I'm aware of on when that might be coming. No, but they actually I think already picked the song. It was on their Facebook page. I actually asked George to put this news thing on because I'm really into their record this year, their new record. Yeah, they're good. So it's cool. I think that'll be cool to hear. I will definitely be checking that out. I'm curious to which songs they'll be playing. I saw they were just like one track from this album, two tracks from this album. I think they were going to do two from Hammerheart, so I'm curious.

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I was under the impression they might have chosen them via fan input too which is kind of cool but I'm trying to remember there was something on Facebook and it was like what songs should we record or I can't remember good stuff yeah all right so uh Kerry King's making friends again oh yeah says people aren't going to the mayhem fest because the bill is shitty duh before anybody says yeah can I just point out that it's a I really have to start this off by saying it's a bad idea to say people aren't coming

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to this show because it's nothing but shitty bands if you're the headliner.

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That's not a great idea.

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That's sort of like saying all these bands suck and we're one of them.

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Well, suddenly he couldn't figure out why nobody on the tour would talk to him.

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It really sucks.

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Not that I don't agree with him.

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I do.

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Manfest has never been the best lineups.

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No.

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I haven't been in a while.

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I know there were a few years where Puke was like, come on, let's go to Manfest, you pussy.

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I've never been to Manfest.

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Have there ever been cool bands like you're in?

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I think but I can pay like a festival price to go see one band yeah I might and stand around all day in the sun to do it you know what I mean like not to sound like an old guy but you know what I agree with you come back so you know yeah yeah man he's got a big mouth dude he does he yeah it was I don't know it like on one hand like yeah the lineup was a lot less this year than it normally has been but on the other hand like you're still on the

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And like,

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shut up,

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you know?

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Yeah.

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And plus like,

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I don't know.

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I feel like if you're Slayer,

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you can't be mad that other bands aren't having a draw.

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Like you should probably have already made it.

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So.

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And anyway,

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I think he's wrong too.

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That's not why people aren't going.

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You know,

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it reminds me of a joke from spinal tap where they run into,

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have you guys seen spinal tap?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There's a scene where they,

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where their,

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their show has just been canceled and they're at the hotel and this other like major rock star.

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And he looks like David Coverdale.

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I don't know who he is,

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but he comes in and they're like,

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And they're like, where are you guys playing? And he goes, oh, we're playing the forum. It's like some huge place. And then when he walks away, they all go, what a wanker that guy is. They said, we played with him. People were still booing him when we went on stage, which I think means people were actually booing Spinal Tap. You know what I mean? We're still booing him when we went on. You know, the festivals here in the States, I think, have never had a full bill start to finish that.

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No. Like the original Summer Slaughter bills used to be like... The Summer Slaughter, I think, may be the strongest bill. 2007. Yeah, like ridiculous. They used to be like all death metal bands and like solid death metal bands and now you get like two or three and then a couple like core bands or like gent bands or whatever. Last year. Last year was pretty great. Now Arch Enemy has had Blinding Summer Slaughter, you know, like... Yeah, aka Jeff Loomis. Yeah, right. Yeah, Jeff Loomis has had Blinding Summer Slaughter. As far as I'm concerned because that's who I'm...

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I would be going to see. Pretty sure Jeff Loomis is the only reason Arch Enemy is actually headlining Summer Slaughter. We all love Jeff Loomis, by the way. And we're all, at least two of us are really hoping for a Nevermore reunion, I might add. Oh my, that would be like, Nevermore is, they're like the band that got me into like shreddy guitar stuff. I love them to death. Warld Dane says that it's not impossible. They might do another record together. We'll see. No, you're, you're, one of your main guitars, the Loomis Signature. Really? I play a Loomis Signature at the older model. I used to have, I used to have,

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I never asked you what what do you play he plays Gibson yeah

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I play Gibson's yeah it's funny too because it was fun to listen to you guys and I don't disagree in any way with anything that you said in the interview about how easy it is to do like all these great amp models and things but it makes me feel so old and outmoded man because I'm such a tube amp rip it rip it guy at the end of the day tube amps are just like like we all so much cooler but I think all of us do prefer the original like a physical amp like I very much prefer a physical amp over like a model but George he couldn't even afford money to buy

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his friend's album. Kids today have struggles, Jay. But yeah, I use an Orange Amp and Gibson's. I got Les Paul and an SG. That's a classic sound. Orange Amp. I don't have that Loomis anymore, but really, man, those Loomis guitars are killer. I love them. Super guitars. I mean, the Gibson and Orange setup, wasn't that pretty much Black Sabbath earlier? Yeah, Orange Amp. Paranoid music video. Yeah, I'll buy that. Jay has a geriatric setup. I do, yeah.

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Yeah, actually, it runs on a diesel fuel. I have to put diesel fuel in quarters in this side to keep it going. All right, so there's a new unnamed Flotsam and Jetsam album that is apparently well underway. Somebody was interviewing Eric, the singer, and he didn't give any details like a name or anything like that or any sort of due date for this creation, but is a big Flotsam and Jetsam fan. I can't wait to hear it. Well, we saw them last time. That's when their most recent album came out. No.

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Yeah, right.

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Right.

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It was about to come.

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Oh, wait.

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Remember?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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You're right.

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It was.

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It was ugly noise.

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Yes.

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Was it a, were they opening or headlining?

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They were.

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They were an opener.

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Yeah.

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That was a, who headlined that show.

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That was at the Fillmore.

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It was at the Fillmore.

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Yeah.

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I don't remember who the headliner was.

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Not sure.

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But.

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Yeah.

01:22:29.880 --> 01:22:32.920
The album was often special, in my opinion.

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It didn't live up to, I think, the, because I didn't hear you talk much about it after

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it came out.

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No.

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Did it not meet your expectations when you were hoping?

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It didn't. The one before that though, The Cold, that was their comeback album. That was fucking brilliant. So I'm kind of hoping the new one. And I feel like he said that it had sort of an older vibe to it. So hopefully it'll be cool. Yeah, I like them. I'm a fan of theirs, so I'm looking forward to it. They never got the credit they deserved. Not even close. I'd like to see them get a little more attention. Yeah, so Monster Magnet, we talked about this in the last pod, and these guys are like my favorite, just straight up kind of hard rock.

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I think they bristle when people call them metal but other kind of stoner rock I guess people would say but they did they released the record not last year called reimagining of Lost Patrol which was the last record and now they're going back and giving the same treatment to their record Mastermind which is a great record and and really what they do is basically take I think some fundamental tracks from the record like bass and drums and everything else they just fucking fuck up and do all kinds of weird stuff too so I'm excited about that Mastermind's a really good record so.

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Fuck it up.

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I'd like to hear them do this for a power trip.

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Exactly.

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And you know what?

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I will see how far he goes back to do this.

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But I'm excited.

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I like these guys.

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I love,

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I think Dave Windorf is a kind of a mad genius.

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So totally excited for this one.

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Excellent.

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And this next one,

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I was looking on Twitter the other day when this popped up.

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Pepper Keenan announced that there's,

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the guys in Down have started working on a new Down album at some point,

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whatever early stages they may be in.

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The new EP.

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Yeah, the new EP.

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It was announced years ago that these EPs were going to be a four-part EP series.

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They just brought the first two in recent years, so we would think that this would be the third part of that.

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I feel like their new stuff that they've been doing.

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And more importantly with this news is that he's back with COC doing a follow-up to, what's it, In the Hands of God?

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In the Arms of God.

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Yeah, it was the last Corrosion of Conformity album.

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Yeah.

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So unlike COC,

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Yeah, I'm pretty excited by that. In the Arms of God was fucking phenomenal. Yeah, it was a great record, dude. I don't think anybody could be upset about a new down record either. No, of course not. We're going to be seeing the next one with the Barbecue. Yeah, though I am upset that they haven't stuck to their release schedule. They're supposed to do one a year. Yeah, they said, we're going to do a four-part EP, and we're going to release them about six months apart. Yeah, bullshit! Six years apart. Fucking dicks.

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Yeah, we think SummerSlaughter 2009, that'll be the record release. Here we are, 2015. No album name, no album art, no new songs. Speculated album art. The most convincing piece of album art so far. It looks good. It looks good, but it's probably not actually theirs. So we don't have any album title yet, but the song titles for the new Megadeth album have been revealed. Whoop-de-doo.

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They look like they tend to be these days. I don't know. We'll see. I'm cautiously optimistic, but not too much. We're going to have to give it a listen. See what Adler can do with them. We'll see what happens. You know, I want to sneak one in here, George. That is a very... I was sneaking one in there. Sneaking one in. There was a very short snippet of the new Maiden record posted this week. I don't know if you guys heard it.

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Oh, I avoided that. I didn't want to hear it. 30 seconds, no vocals. And I shouldn't even, I mean, it wasn't enough to form an opinion, but it sounded cool. That was why I didn't want to hear it. I was like, it's not going to be long enough for me to get any kind of indication of what it's going to sound like. So I'll wait until the first song comes out in a couple of weeks. If it was long enough, I will tell you this. It was, it reminded me of maybe something off side two of like, somewhere in time. Hmm. Yeah. Hmm.

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We'll see, I guess. We'll see. George says hum in his old brain right now. He can't think of what's on side two. No, I can't. I actually know what a side two is. Well, actually what I was thinking of was loneliness of the long distance runner. Yeah, and Alexander the Great. All that. Yeah, all that stuff on side two, bitch. Eat it. I was just more of a somewhere in time is not one of my favorites.

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Fair enough. All right. So, uh, Niall released a lyric video for call to destruction. And, uh, I liked it. I don't know. I like it. I like it. I like the record in general. Um, that's it. You guys, um, you know, we get, as George says, he gets a lot of, uh, promos. And so we've got this and it's good. It's good. I don't know if you guys are Niall fans. Yeah. Like about like, Niall is like one of those bands for me. Cause like, I, I know they're like very talented.

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I like the music I just can't get over the vocals I've had a problem with the vocals for a long time yeah I just like they're not you know when like with a lot of the death metal that you hear a lot you hear a lot like gutturals and whatever and just even I just don't I just don't really like the vocals that much but I'm very but like I love the riffs like when it first started that lyric video I was like it's gonna be good you know and the vocals came in I was like oh no I've never

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I haven't watched the video, but I'm hoping either Jay or Bukas has. There was a video with Michael Ackerfeldt on the state of the industry. Can you guys tell me any more about that? Did you watch it, Bukas? I did. I read an article on it. Interesting point, and I'm glad you brought this up, Jay. Jay, you want to dive into what the article said and I'll ask these guys about it? Sure. I'll just say a couple of things.

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What I take away from it is going to be different than probably what each and every other person takes away from it. So basically, one of the things he talked about was how really records will sell, and you sell maybe 15,000 the first week, if you're a band as big as them, by the way, and that gets you into the top 10 on Billboard. Which, by the way, George can back me up on this. To get in the top 10 20 years ago, you had to sell 700,000 albums in the first week.

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There was no metal in the top 100, period. Ghost Reveries debuted at 16 in the Billboard charts, selling 28,000 CDs or something. And that, by the way, it's gotten worse since then. Or Watershed, one of those two. But all the things he said that really kind of made me realize the sad state of the scene right now is that they're what you would call, I would say, like a mid-grade band, you know what I mean, as far as success is concerned. They're making a living, probably making a pretty good one.

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But that's even touching them now. You know what I mean? They're not making any money off their records. The only hope is to tour. Spotify, you're not going to get a lot as a metal band on Spotify. And he also had mentioned something I'd said in the past, which is he doesn't have to, but he splits the publishing. Other guys in the band get some of the publishing. But the overall thing I took away from it is, seriously, man, if you're not Mastodon or Opeth, who I realize are not Metallica or Iron Maiden,

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You're not gonna make a living.

01:30:07.460 --> 01:30:08.540
So just give up now, guys.

01:30:09.300 --> 01:30:10.240
Yeah, basically, yeah.

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We've thought about it.

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Jay, the thing that I took away from it, the question that was asked to him is, has he thought of what happens, because since you're not the Metallica or the Maiden who can't ride off of thousands of album sales continually a week off, like the Black Album or something like that, what do you do when the time comes?

01:30:34.280 --> 01:31:04.060
It does come when those sales for Opeth just trail off. And you can't sustain yourself. When you make another piece of shit like the last one. I like it. But Opeth, they're in a weird position right now. And his answer, I think, was kind of touching on this is that they find themselves in a position where they have to, I think, hit it so hard to sustain their way of life.

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and for it to be a career. But it doesn't allow them any other time to pick up and do another career. So I think when it comes to it, they're eventually just going to, when it ends, it's, hey, live off that OPATH money. But you know what? I don't think so. You don't think so? No. Look at Lamb of God. We were just talking about Randy. Boy. And he went to jail. They had to scrape together that $200,000. They didn't have $200,000.

01:31:34.280 --> 01:32:04.200
They borrowed it from the label. And they're a big fucking band. So half of these big bands, I would say Mastodon, Lama God, Opeth, all strike you as big bands. If they stop now, I guarantee you in less than three years, those guys would all have to have day jobs. Hell, fucking Dave Elveson had a day job when he left Megadeth. Yeah, but I also think if you're someone like Michael Ockerfeld, there's definitely other opportunities for you to pursue music outside.

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I just want to say I don't think Michael will have to work.

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I think he makes more money than the rest of the people in the band. But you just can't sustain a five-man band. He can be a producer or do other things. Well, I think he also has money. I think Michael does have money. Yeah. When they went to Ghost Reveries, when that record came out, I remember reading an interview with him where he said he was a millionaire on paper. Hmm. Yeah. Just because it's a corporation. They have a corporation on everything. But I'm just saying there's not enough money to sustain it after. There won't be a running business once they stop performing.

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When we were talking earlier, I asked you guys this. Again, reading something like this doesn't turn you off at all? Not really. Especially because money situations are different for everybody. I was reading something the other day where the dude from Periphery, Misha, was talking about how he doesn't take any money home from the tours. But that's also because on their tours, they take six extra people with them just to do tech on stuff that like...

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I don't say it's unnecessary because obviously that's their choice whether they want to have these people doing set up for like different things but like I think it's important to consider where all the money's going and I mean obviously he's sustaining himself still like he's making money off endorsements and teaching and you know other things that he has going on and definitely like producing and stuff so I think as far as like funds from being in a band you have to I don't know everybody's situation is totally different as guys who are going to school for you know jazz

01:34:06.660 --> 01:34:32.980
You guys again just getting off your first tour, how are you guys learning the business aspect, the financial aspect of all of this, the promotions? Is it just pick it up as you go along? Have you talked to any former bands? The guy who booked our tour has been on like 13 tours or something. In the past two years. Yeah, so he gave us a lot of advice.

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I want to ask you guys this because I it took me a long time and I was in financial problems for many years trying to even manage myself now how have you guys and are you guys starting to learn how to get into managing finances for the band and cuts that people are going to take and covering expenses and stuff we made out pretty well on the tour actually like between what we get like most of the venues came through and paid us like what they told us they would pay us which

01:35:03.440 --> 01:35:33.060
It was nice. The only times that they didn't were if there really wasn't the money there. And even then they tried to do us something. Like this one club gave us a case of PBR. Illegal. I appreciate the sentiment. Well, they gave it to the sound guy who we just happened to be staying with. Yeah, I mean, we did alright. So you guys were starting to learn the backgrounds as you go along and stuff like that. It's a trial and error. Yeah, we're already working out how we're going to split up funds.

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If we're gonna have like a physical band fund or like an account or whatever, you know, so. Plus it's like, I mean obviously being, like financial stuff is different, like totally different on every level because like on our level we're not going through anybody, you know, we don't, we get our money and that's our money. Yeah. But then we're not getting like as much of it as a band who's, you know, splitting costs with a record label. Right. Like we have the, you know, it's just different. We have the physical cash that we made on tour and then we have stuff going into a PayPal account from the bank

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So then we have to find a way to get that together and split that up or keep it somewhere.

01:36:09.940 --> 01:36:19.960
Now with the band camps and stuff, the bands we've talked to who love the control that they have of their product, they realize, hey, record labels, we don't need you.

01:36:21.390 --> 01:36:23.300
Frankly, maybe we don't want you.

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Have you guys thought or talked about as a band if, let's say, a relapse or somebody approached you guys a couple years down the line?

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Would you guys entertain offers? It just totally depends on the deal. The one that we talk about the most is the unique leader. They have a lot of our favorite bands. We would always have to see what the deal is. It's not just like, you're a big name, we like your bands, we're going to sign on to you. We have to see what the deal is. Just because you're a band doesn't mean you have to get signed. Just because you get signed doesn't mean you made it big. The thing about

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I use Jay and his band as an example to you guys. Jay, please do not take this the wrong way. I mean, it's with the most respect. Jay's band is, this is going to sound fucking awful to say, but... Don't say it then. No, no, no, no. Jay's band, they're golden years. You know what I'm trying to say, Jay? Yeah, dude, we'll be lucky to make three records. These guys are, you know, just learning to crawl, to walk. Yeah.

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And you're absolutely right, dude. The world's there. Yep. And I think a label is a lot less likely to be interested in us for a lot of reasons. But one of them is kind of our age. And also, it's just everything is risky for labels now. And it is. And I have only really, really embraced that in the last year to two years where I'm just sort of like... I mean, it's me and George. If George and I had a band, we've been programmed since we were young that that's just part of the process. Right. And that there's some variety of successes.

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to just sign that contract. And that's almost meaningless now unless you're on a label like Nuclear Assault or Nuclear Blast or something. Who's really kind of got money. You know what I mean? And so while you will get a distribution thing going and your record will get reviewed more, these days it almost doesn't matter at all. So what we did is we just made up a label and we call it End Times Records. There's nothing, there's no physical anything to it. We just did it because we thought it might help the record get reviewed.

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It had a label on the back. Yeah. Yeah. You guys are free to use that, by the way. We'd love to have you. All right. So this next news item I thought was pretty cool. There was something in the news about an alternate juror in Colorado at the sentencing for the movie theater shooter James Holmes. One of the alternate jurors was wearing a Ride the Lightning shirt, which I guess kind of gives you a little bit of his opinion.

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opinion on what he wants to happen to this guy.

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Have you guys seen the shirt George is talking about, though?

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Yeah.

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It's got the electric chair on there.

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So, yeah, you're not supposed to wear anything that indicates any sort of political opinion on the matter.

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But he was an alternate juror, so I don't think he got in trouble for it.

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But still.

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What are you talking about?

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No, I just really love this band.

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I love Metallica, man.

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I didn't even consider this.

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Yeah, that sounds like something I would do. Anyway, to that guy that wore that shirt, that's pretty fucking awesome. Yeah, shout out to that guy. Yep. So the band Anvil is trying to get another new album made. These guys don't stop. No, I like Anvil. I don't know about anybody else, but I like them. And they've put up a crowdfunding campaign on Pledge Music to help fund the new album. I thought they had some pretty cool stuff, and I actually put in a decent

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You're boring these kids George. What album number is this for them? I think their last one was called 13 so I'm guessing this is 14. There's actually been two since then George so I think this is 16. There's like some bands like there's we'll preface this with there's never too much music like as long as you can keep making music and even if you're just doing it for yourself just keep doing it. Hell yeah. But like there's a certain point where you have to stop expecting people to care like some of these bands that have like

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like eight nine ten eleven albums like nobody cared probably after like the fifth maybe now wow this is such this is such it is so interesting to hear you say that dude and i don't necessarily disagree with you but i think you know just like i think we um a lot of younger people are more into singles and i don't know that that's you guys i'm just saying that's a lot of people metalheads are a little different but it's interesting to hear that today's sort of younger people sort of think like anything past like four albums is kind of like dragging out you know it's also

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Because because we're younger, if we want to get into these older bands, there's already like nine albums. Like, where the fuck do we start? I don't know what to listen to. Like, you know, this band is recommended to me, but now I have to just like sift through like 100 plus songs. Like, think if today you get into Slayer. Where do you start? I did that. I did that. And like, Rain of Blood's like the last one you listen to. Yeah, I like, it is like a lot of people like listen to their like the most recent album. And it's like, that's probably not their best. It could be like

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the third or the fourth, but that's right in the middle. So how are you just going to randomly pick the best one if you don't know anything about them? I usually go for the third album. The first album may be good, but it's also probably going to be young and raw. Kill Em All was a good album, but it's nothing like Master of Puppets. So I always jump for the second or third album. I was going to say something about that too that I kind of meant to mention earlier, which was

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We're talking about having gotten into Maiden, and then you kind of did Metallica, and then Slayer. That was the way you kind of got Progressive Metal. And George said that was the way we all got into it, too. But I was going to kind of point out, in no insulting fashion, that George and I went through that real time. You know what I mean? There was no Metallica when Maiden was around. But it's so interesting that your progression went that way. But yeah, it's interesting to hear you guys talk about that. I think it's kind of the natural way.

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For people who are getting into metal and stuff, he's probably the only member of our band that didn't get into it that way. I know Sanjay, our other guitar player, did the same thing, and so did our drummer. Because that's how it progressed. Brandon didn't really do it that much, though. He listened to a lot of Metallica, but then he went right to the death core. I can't fathom going straight to grindcore. I would never hear it.

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progressed to each next level. I started with Thrash in the 80s when the first Death album came out, the band Death. It's pretty bloody gore. And I was like, what the fuck is this? And I was like, I liked the music, but I didn't get that. It was like, what is with these vocals? When you realize Origin came out in the 80s, and you're like, this is really fast technical death metal. It's coming out in 1988. That was when these Thrash metal bands were starting to

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Not die off, but the scene was changing. That's just a quick transfer to go from Slayer to Origin. It's a totally different feel. Oh, yeah. I had to very slowly progress through the different levels from Thrash to Death to Black to everything beyond that. But now I'm like, it can't get weird enough for me.

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I recommend anybody go out there and support this band. A lot of the Kickstarter type campaigns have got some pretty lame perks or whatever. It's like, oh, well, for $10 you get a digital download for $15. These guys used to give them $30 to get to kiss them. Sweet. I would do that. That seems like a decent incentive. As a side note on that, one of our

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They have a kickstarter for a new van and said if you give us $2,000 to just buy the van right away this member of our band will get his name your name tattooed on his butt and we'll send you all the other perks in addition. That was Butcher of Rostov right? I think it was either them or Burning Fevrona. Alright well it's either Butcher of Rostov or Burning Fevrona go look them up and. If you're watching your name immortalized on a man's ass. Go buy them a van and he's a.

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I think it's Brett. It's definitely Brett.

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It's Bernie Fair.

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Yeah, so get your name tattooed on his ass because he's a nice guy.

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And if I could afford to, I would.

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You got to have cool incentives like that.

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And Anvil had some that I thought were pretty cool.

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And the one I got was you can get a handwritten lyric sheet.

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They will write out the lyrics to any song in their catalog and sign it.

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That's nice.

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And so I got metal on metal because, you know, what the fuck. So it was smart to not choose an instrumental to nice. Nice work, George. You know, I wanted to ask you how well is it doing? Did you see how close they were to their target? They had like 50 days to go and they were at 25 percent. So it was doing all right. I hope they make it because I want that fucking thing. I'm going to put that on the wall in here. If anybody ever asked me to send them a lyric sheet of like an instrumental song, I would just send them a blank.

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I would send them notation.

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That would be cool.

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Yeah, I mean they had that and there was...

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You could get a signed set list.

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I mean, you know, there was one that like you could go do a private art viewing with the drummer

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because he's an artist.

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And like there's another one they'll go to dinner with them and stuff.

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So, you know, don't be boring in your Kickstarters is what I'm saying here.

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I'll kiss your ass if you give us $100. I think the four of us can come up with some pretty interesting stuff. I love the fucking fire in these guys. Alright, last news item. I don't know if anybody else has heard anything more on this. I got an email yesterday from King Diamond's promoter saying that there's going to be major news announced on August 3rd, which is two days from now. So I started speculating. I saw something online that said

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One of the news agencies was speculating that they were going to play the entire Abigail album. I was hoping that the news was going to be a new album. They're already talking about, I've seen too much about the new record to know it doesn't exist. So there you go. They haven't even written it yet. I think the Abigail thing is probably the deal, which I'll go to, by the way. By the way, they're on the Mayhem Fest or whatever the fuck it is. That's not major news. Major news is a new album.

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That's a good point.

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Before, all right, could I inject my own little news?

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Sure.

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All right, did you guys see that Fall of Troy is doing a tour?

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Like they're doing this tour and they're playing all of like Doppelganger,

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which I thought was their coolest album.

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Wow.

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Did not hear that.

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I did not hear that.

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I'm really excited for it.

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Who they on tour with?

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I'm not sure.

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I'd have to check it, but yeah.

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Cool.

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Look it up.

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If anybody hasn't heard of the Fall of Troy, you should listen to them and then go to the show.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Look at that. This is one of the first bands to bring content in. Yeah, way to go. Good job. Good job. Way to participate. Gold stars and brownie points out at the end. All right. Actual brownies. No, I wish. No. If we did, believe us. I'd have eaten them all around. I've never been gone by the time you guys got here. I've had an actual brownie in so long. Last day of course. An actual brownie? What have you been? That's good. I like that. I haven't had an actual brownie.

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What kind of brownie hair do you have? Those fake plastic ones. Delicious. Well played. Moving on to new releases. All right. Well, first new release is Cataclysm of Ghosts and Gods. I know Buke digs these guys. Any comments?

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I've liked these guys the past couple years. I like their later sound. George likes their earlier sound. I like this album where I've listened to it. It carries on the modern cataclysm sound that they have now. Cool. I skipped through it. I mean, not in a bad way. I haven't had time to sit down and listen to it, but I listened to some samples. It sounds fine. So fuck this next one. Yes, it's fine. It's okay. No opinion.

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So fuck this next one. This is Teenage Time Killers and their first album called Greatest Hits Volume 1. First off, what fucking douchebags named their first album Greatest Hits? Fuck you. I think it's genius. It is kind of funny. It is kind of funny. Except that it's only been done like a hundred times. It has been done, yeah. And then it's a super group full of people that I like in their individual bands.

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But everything I've heard has sucked really hard. Who is it? Dave Grohl, who can fuck off. Because of what they did at their stupid-ass 20th anniversary show on July 4th. I was there for that. It fucking sucked. I left. Where were you? Were you on the field? No, I was on the field. Because I was to the right on the lower level. Yeah, that's where I was.

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after Joan Jett during that lightning break. Why? Because the sound was fucking horrible. It sounded like you were outside. It was like rumble, rumble, rumble. Occasionally you might hear somebody say something. I walked all the way around the stadium on the more level. Yeah, the sound got a lot better when the Foo Fighters actually played. Tell me it sounded studio quality at the end of the day. It was actually really good. It sounded really good from where I was sitting. I was sitting under the deck above me.

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in the back.

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And it sounded great.

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But I know exactly what you're talking about.

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I could not hear anybody speak up until they played.

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That show was actually on a Saturday, I think, right?

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It was the 4th of July.

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They started setting a show up Tuesday because of how big the setup was.

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Maybe they should have done a sound check or something.

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It was horrible.

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Big crowds.

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I think the crew for that was like 60, 70 people working for four days

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I spent like 250 dollars to leave early but the thing that infuriates me the most is they let my wife down my wife doesn't go to that many shows she was really excited about this and she was the one that was like I can't take this anymore let's leave and I'm like you know you mess with my wife I'm gonna fucking go for the throat fuck you

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It's his fucking show. I don't know if you can blame Dave Grohl for shitty sound quality though. He's not actually back there working sound. No, but you know, I'm not literally blaming him. I'm using him as a scapegoat. I understand. But technically, it's his show. If they've been setting up all fucking week, he should have heard how bad it sounds by this point, you know, and done something about it because he's if nobody else,

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He can do something about it. Yeah. And he obviously didn't give a shit. I don't know. You also have to look at it. There's not the stadium filled. They needed to put speakers in places that there were not speakers. Yeah, definitely. Because it was just a giant echo bowl. Yeah. Couldn't hear shit. But it got better. But like I said, when the Foo Fighters actually came on, it was like flawless. They could hear everything. Yeah. Fuckers. Of course it was. Yeah. Well, anyway, fuck the teenage

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I think Randy Bly actually sings on a song. Pepper Keenan. It's like a whole bunch of punk and metal guys and a lot of the NOLA scene people. Sounds like it'd be dumb anyway. Corey Taylor I think sings on one. I like the Foo Fighters. They used to be one of my favorite bands. I liked the Foo Fighters. You guys should just fight. Have a Foo Fight.

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I'll get over it but the wound is still a little fresh

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this next album is one that I mentioned on our last episode

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I can't fucking pronounce the band's name

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Zato Krev

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they're from like Switzerland I think

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and the album's called Silk Spiders Underwater

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it's like a sludge metal kind of thing

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and I picked it up off Bandcamp

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it's pretty cool

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you should check it out

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Sludge. Stoked. I've never listened to a full-length Sludge metal album. Well, you're missing out. Sludge. Yep. Forgot that was even a genre. It's like doom metal when you get too stoned. Yeah. Right. Right. Next up, we've got the new cattle decapitation. The Anthropocene Extinction. That's what we fucking did. Have you guys heard the single of that? Yeah. At first, I was like, I don't know if this is a single.

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This is going to be good. But I listened to it a couple times and I was like, this is fucking awesome. I'm so excited. I'm seeing them on Tuesday. We're going up to Reading Pennsylvania to see them be on Creation. For a band that plays this genre of music for you guys, and so many bands out there of all genres, but for a band that plays, again, this genre, Cow Decapitation being one of them, what for you guys separates the good from the bad? What are you guys hearing that my

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That's the whole song.

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The way that they've developed that over time into a cohesive... You have full albums now that really feel like albums. And the vocals are so unique. And they're written well. Yeah, the vocals are great, but it still has that old-school, grindy kind of sound. It doesn't just sound like a death metal band that's trying to be extra heavy or something. And that's what I really appreciate about them. For me, honestly, it's a lot about the drums and the vocals.

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and not even about the riffs. Yeah, everything else is kind of filled out space. If the drum beat, take any song, like, do you guys listen to Gorod at all? Yeah. Yeah, so like, you know, like the Perfect Absolution, they have a lot of like, like, Caribbean parts and stuff like that. You could take a heavy riff and then play one of those drum parts behind it, just like they do, and it completely changes the sound. So the drum beat and the vocals, like I was saying with Niall earlier, Niall sounds fucking great, and then their vocals come in.

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So one thing that Cattle Decap does with their vocal is just so unique he like scream sings and it's but it's impressive he's hitting notes and they're really high notes and it sounds good and like their drums are killer and just the riffs are like in your face and the bass tone is just clanky as hell this is amazing that's a side note. I noticed like I think it was on the last album they added like another vocal style yeah that was I don't want to say cleaner

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Yeah, it's like the screaming singing. Yeah, and I really kind of dug that. Yeah, it sounds great. But it reminded me of something, and I couldn't think of what it was, and it finally dawned on me a couple days ago when I was listening to it. And I'm guessing Jay's probably going to be the only one that might know what I'm talking about here. It kind of reminded me of David Wayne from Metal Church on the first two Metal Church albums, when he would just get really kind of in some of his singing.

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And I was like, I don't know, he's just got this similar tone to it, obviously a little bit more extreme. I think that's a good call, George. I think that was why I was like, ooh, I really like this. It's because I'm a really big David Wayne fan, rest in peace. And yeah, anyway. Yes, like the original question, what makes it good or bad, for me, it would be the drums and the vocals. Like he said, the guitar riffs and the bass is filling space. Yeah, it's doing its own thing. Hey, George, I thought we had a promo for that,

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I put it in the box. If you need it, let me know. What's the promo? For cattle decapitation? It's basically an advance of the album. No, I wanted the promo that came with the... No, they have the album, though. I get the whole album a month or two ahead of... You already have it? Yeah. Seriously, I would lose my fucking mind if we could listen to that. What? The cattle? Yeah.

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Oh my god. Yeah, see guys we we can be fucking Russian tort guys. Why you? Ha ha ha ha. Yeah, yeah, we can we've been getting well I've already looked on the Russian torrent with you really I mean I'm gonna buy the album when it comes out but I really wanted to hear it Wow, that's the one that they released. Yeah, so Look at his eyes. See he doesn't care about the fucking podcast now

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This is why I started doing this originally was to get free music and now I get a little month or two sometimes three months ahead of release date. That's like their old stuff. Yeah, it sounds great. I want to remember it's about Friday now. Yeah, it's out now, isn't it? It should be. I thought it was out now. We gotta bump that all day.

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I love all the songs by the time they play them. Otherwise I'll just be sad. Do you guys do Spotify and stuff? Yeah. I'm on there. Let's just check for you gentlemen. I love this. I love all this stuff. All right. No, I don't Spotify yet. All right. All right. Should we get back to, uh, we've got two more new releases. Now they're going to talk now that they fucking, you see, Jay, everything. Just interrupt me, motherfucker. The two hours and

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17 minutes that we've been recording doesn't mean anything. It's all out the window now that they just heard that fucking. They got out the conversation. They're like, I'm so glad we came here today. We don't care about us. Look at him. Look, he's fucking still high. Like he just had sex with like six girls. He's like, oh. I'm sorry. They're like, but I wouldn't say they're my favorite band, but I definitely listen to them more than any other band right now. Your eyes did light up quite a bit. Yeah, I was like,

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Christmas morning over there.

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That's better than Christmas.

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All right.

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Well, we've got two more.

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He is glowing.

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New releases.

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Yes.

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That could have been something else.

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Anyway, two more new releases to get into.

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The new Fear Factory GeneXus, which I have, but I haven't listened to it yet because I haven't really listened to much Fear Factory in the last decade.

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Yeah.

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I've never really sat down and listened to Fear Factory.

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But I'm guessing I can probably figure out what it sounds like.

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And then this last one, I don't know if I've ever said this guy's name out loud. Christian? Is that how you say it? Forged in Fury. Got the promo for that. That was a pretty good album. Did you listen to that? That's a good name, actually. Yeah, I did listen to it. It was good. I agree with you. It didn't change my life. It was cool. No, it was good. South American brutal death metal. These guys are fucking monsters on stage, too.

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I saw them with Deicide. Was it Deicide? Yep. Okay. And Casual Decapitation. Wait, have you guys done a bit on Deicide totally ruining the Metal Alliance tour yet? No. Oh, good. That's something we can talk about at the end. Now, that did come up a couple months ago. You guys want to tell them what happened? There was news that happened, but I don't think we were really touched on it. Okay, so basically, well, I'll tell you something from behind the scenes aspect.

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Their minimum pay for that tour was four grand a show. Which is a lot. So like they were selling the contract for that show. Like people offered them like 7,000 and they didn't take it. And then eventually DSI were just dicks to everybody. And then so essentially the whole thing was over. And Black Crown Initiate played one headlining show. And then there was this one poor band from I think France that was just kind of like what the fuck.

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I came here I thought I was going to put a day aside and now we're on our own. This weird country. I can't see Black Crown Initiatives headliners. No. We saw them. We found out all this on tour from first half. I don't know. Yeah. You guys like Black Crown? You guys like Black Crown? I like Black Crown. I like George. I like them a lot. They both made our end of year list last year. Yeah. It's funny because their album sounded so amazing. And then they played live and they weren't bad, but they were underwhelming in terms of

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Stage Presence. Yeah. You know how a lot of bands when they start out, they are like statues on stage and they don't seem like they're comfortable yet. That's kind of how they were. They sounded great. Yeah, sounded great. I'm sure they'll get there. Actually, the only thing I'm bummed about playing Louisville Death Fest is that we're actually going to have a big stage because every single show we've ever had, I've jumped off at some point. So I'm not going to be able to do that this time. Don't want to Dave Grohl it.

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Do you let the hair down? Yeah. I've only forgotten once and I took it off like halfway through the second set. But yeah, the hair's got to come down. I was going to say, you can't keep it as part of the show. No way. It's not even heavy. You've got to wear all black on stage too if you really want to be cool. Yeah. All right. So here we are at that time of the show where we do our top three. Top three.

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This time, Jay decided to pick the top three album opening tracks, which I thought was pretty interesting.

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Oh, man. But also, it turns out for me, impossible. Because, I mean, this is sort of like saying, this was really hard. This was too hard. And all I can say is I really have a top ten. I did only choose three.

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But Jesus Christ, there's so much harder than I thought it was going to be. There's one that immediately comes to mind when you say that. Everything else I have to think about. I know we've thought of the same one. You guys want a second to formulate your list? Yeah, you guys. Alpha and Cynthia, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alpha and Cynthia on Harvest Worms. That's an album right here. It's like real ambient in the beginning, but still aggressive. And then this one really tight riff kicks in. And you're like, shit.

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I know the album is going to be great. That song is incredible. That's like a lot of people say one of their favorite songs of the album is that opening song. It's just such a good song to stand on its own and just the opening to the album is ridiculous. What we usually do is we'll go around and everybody will do their three and their two and their one. Think of your guys number two or one. That's what I'm doing right now. My phone is dead so give me yours.

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All right, so we'll... No, I'm not giving you my phone. You can look with me. All right, we'll move to Jay now and let Jay do one. Okay, well, this was too hard, and I decided everything I chose I would call older, you know? I didn't end up doing anything terribly new. I did older, too, and Buke said he did newer stuff just because he wanted to do the opposite of us. Yeah, well, I did that, too, because a lot of these precedents were set back then, you know what I mean? So this one I think people think is a little bit weird. I know you and

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Buke will like it, but I don't know if he would have chosen it, but I chose Burn from Deep Purple. Actually, that song is fucking awesome. I love that. The keyboards on that song alone are amazing. And it's just a great opening riff. It takes off like a shot. And it was their comeback after Ian Gillen left, and it's just like in the first 30 seconds, you're like, this is going to be just fine. You know what I mean? So anyway, Burn. All right, Buke, number three. Come out. The band hasn't been the same since.

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This album came out off a hate crew death roll needle 24/7 that is a good one that's the fucking

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president for the whole album that is good oh my you're not into it you still don't what about the new one you guys you guys don't it's great it's good I'm just saying that ever since that album they've been up in the air yeah yeah fair enough I've got I agree that's a good good choice I've got a number for an honorable mention because I just had to put it in there my honorable mention is Metallica with battery yeah because when that came out a good one you know I bought that like

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As soon as Master of Puppets came out, and it was one of those life-defining moments. My mom's driving me back from the mall. I'm sitting in the passenger seat with my frickin' big-ass padded 80s headphones on, and I pop in the cassette of Master of Puppets, and you get that bing-da-bling, that clean acoustic intro, and then it just fuckin' rips your face off with nothing you'd ever heard before in 1986.

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6. Yeah. That was a really ripping song. Yeah. It's funny you did. I actually did one honorable mention too. I hated this band the whole entire time. They already had four albums out by the time I really dove in to listen to them. The first time I heard Mastodon and Leviathan, Blood and Thunder. Yeah, that's a good. Set me out. I got hooked on them after hearing that first track. Right on. So my actual number 3 is Iron Maiden, Ace is High.

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really particular,

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Aces High with the Churchill intro off of Live After Death.

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Because,

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it's just a fucking killer intro song.

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And the Churchill speech always gives me goosebumps.

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Awesome.

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Classic.

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Can't go wrong with that, dude.

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All right.

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What do you guys have for number two?

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You can have some.

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I thought we were on three.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah, three.

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Weren't we?

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Well,

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yeah, we were on three.

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We did the Fallujah.

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We didn't know if that was your three.

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That was one.

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That was one. Alpha and Symbian was one. I just got really excited about it. But yeah, three for me is probably I just got this symphony going by Fall of Troy off Doppelganger because I thought that was like their coolest album. And like it just came like right at you from the start with like a really cool riff. And it was creepy. Sweet. Cool. My three would be a Lucid Collective from Lucid Collective on Art Spire. Right on.

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I also have an honorable mention which I think is actually one of his I think is your second an autopsy yeah

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that was a great opening song it's so good the reason I was gonna put that above the fall of Troy one is because it was their first album yeah like it was their first thing you ever hear from the faceless on a record ever and it just hits you so hard when did your most recent album come out 2012 I think

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12 or 13? Let me check. I think it's 2012. Yeah, 2012. Jay, number two? Number two, another band that went through a vocalist change and came out punching. Neon Nights Off Heaven and Hell. Nice. Yeah. Unusual. Not unusual, I mean, because it's a great song. It's deep. You know? Yeah. Even the deep purple, I'm like, you're definitely not wrong.

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I'm not really going for the obvious ones here. I'm going for the completely obvious ones. Fuck you. Puke, number two. You know, people don't say, Puke, you don't have Opeth in your top three lists. Well, they're not making this list either because I think their lists are a slow burn. You know. But just in case, you know, John's thinking, Puke, is Opeth coming? No, they're not coming, John. I'm sorry. Off of Clayman from Inflames Bullet Ride. Wow.

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That was a good one too. Yeah, that was a good choice. Yeah. All right. My number two, Slayer Angel of Death. Yeah, okay. I saw that coming. Yeah. Who can that not be number one on your list? That was my favorite song for like two years. It actually started off as number one, but it moved down when I found my number two, and I was like, wait, this can't be number two. So I switched it. Imagine hearing that song back in George's younger years, hearing that for the first time. I was not. What the fuck is this? Especially that little bass break where it's just

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I never heard anybody play kick drum like that before I was like this is crazy yep yeah that was something all right well what do you what do you you guys got a two now then he spoiled my two yeah the faceless one that he spoiled yeah it's just ruiner so my number two I was thinking like I was thinking about like my the older older stuff that I used to listen to a lot of the grunge and the rock and roll and there's this one

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I love it. It's the opening to Autotheism, the Create. It's just, it's metal, but it's, the whole song overall is just so grungy, and it's a good set for the opening of the album. And at the same time, for me personally, like, it lets me still, like, of course I still listen to the older stuff that I used to listen to, but when I'm listening to a lot of metal currently now, and that song comes on,

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It really sends me back to my roots. When I first started bass and I had it in drop C down by my knees and I was playing Nirvana songs or whatever. It's just such a good song. Right on. Not to get sidetracked, but you guys ever have a band that you really like and then you first hear a new album and you fucking hate it, but then after a couple months it grows on you? That was a lot of theism for me. Just about every band I've ever liked. I'm always overly

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when they first hit the album like nah fuck this but then i'll listen to it more and i'll be like all right so in fact like after uh rain and blood came out when south of heaven came out i was like what the fuck is this that's a cool album and it is now but what yeah going from rain and blood which was all super fast to then uh south of heaven where they really slowed down at least for the first song yeah it was just like it's definitely different but like i don't know i feel like that album was like a

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It was.

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I read that they were basically saying that

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where were you going to go

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faster and harder from Rain and Blood?

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So they're like, everybody's going to expect that.

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We're going to go the other way.

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And so I'm like, now I fucking love the album.

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But at the time, it was a bit of a disappointment.

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Slayer's actually been pretty consistent

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with most of their albums.

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I agree.

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All right.

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Jay, number one.

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Like I said, I went all old school.

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There's no real thrash or anything in mine

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or black metal or death metal or anything,

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which is kind of weird. But, and I already kind of told you guys this one offline, George and Buke. Freewheel Burning off of Defenders of the Faith. That's a really good one. Yeah. Yeah, it's really a great song. I have that vinyl hanging on my wall. Yeah. That was my first Priest song because my first album was Defenders of the Faith. And Freewheel Burning just ripped my face off for 1985. Yeah. I was like, damn, that's heavy.

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I know. But at the time. That actually, like what we were talking to before about girlfriends and metal music in the car or whatever. She told me, my girlfriend told me, she's like, you know, all these things that I used to think were heavy, now that I'm just so used to listening to your music, she's like, she's not heavy anymore. Nope. You know what's still heavy this day, though? Dire's Eve by Metallica. Oh, yeah. I love that song. It's fucking awesome. When it comes in, because like, our drummer has that album on his, like,

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a playlist so it plays pretty frequently and like that song specifically and every time it comes on you just get like a grim reminder of how fucking heavy Metallica actually was. And that was literally the last song on their last pretty good record too so it's like a grim reminder like it's all about to change. Bob Rock is on the horizon. Get ready for Lulu. At least they didn't stay speed metal. I like Death Magnetic. I thought that was good.

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Actually, yeah, that was like... Nice return. Yeah. Good save, guys. Good save. After how many years? I forget the interview, though, but there's one interview where they're like, yeah, we know we sucked. We're never going back to speed metal. It's like when... Yeah. Laura's talking about regretting the snare on... The same anger. I was joking around with him. Ping! Ping! Yeah. Well, honestly, the snare on Injustice for All is pretty bad, too.

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I don't hear saying anger bad but if you listen to injustice for all and you zero in on that snare drum that's all you can hear after that we're getting we're getting really sidetracked here but did you guys see the article that we get sidetracked all the time the guy who produced uh injustice for all Fleming Rasmussen yeah he wrote an article about how Lars Ulrich is a fucking dick because Lars Ulrich was the one who told him to like drop the bass on the album and turn it like way down and then like 25 years ago

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He got really fired up and wrote this article which is really infuriating to read. We were joking around before we came here because we knew you were going to ask us our favorite records, classic records and whatever. We should tell them St. Anger. Just see how they react. Out! Out! I just thought the whole live studio idea was great. Just the snare tone. You just hear the mic drop and then like...

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Feedback. You know, this episode is over. You almost did it to yourself earlier. Porn water. Alright, puke number one. Okay, this is like my 35th try here. To impress me? No. To say this. You want to say it for me? Amanomar. Oh no. Amanomar. Look at George like step back. Come on. Is there another one?

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I should be writing your list for you brother.

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I was thinking about like between the bear to me songs that would be number one you guys know the way between the bear to me like writes out their albums like the opening is really always great but also the first song in the album is never really the opening colors like there's like a first track of colors like it's like a clean like it's like a really clean like beautiful part but then you feel like the real opener is like the second song so I felt like that wasn't fair to say but like astral body

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off Parallax 2. I felt like that was a great opening song. But it was also the second song. What do you think of the new album? I don't know. I get that the natural progression for a lot of bands is to go towards more of a clean and progressive sound. But that doesn't mean that I'm going to like it. I do listen to a lot of prog, but for me, Between the Buried and Me will always be Colors and the Great Mistrick kind of stuff. Cool. Alright. My number one is...

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My number one is the number one that started it all. Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath. That's why I didn't say it. I had just sent you a text telling you that was what it was going to be too, George. I had a feeling that's the way you went. You can't go wrong with that. Yeah, I mean, it's the first heavy metal song on the first heavy metal album. People may argue with that, but fuck you. I agree. I agree. That was heavy.

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It was just the creepiest fucking song with the rain. There was just never anything like that. It's a huge, impactful song for an opening track. It starts a genre. It's the first song of the genre. It is the opening track. That's a cool way to think of that. We're still closing it out. Never actually thought of that first song of the genre. That was cool. Moving on.

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We're going to talk about what each of us have been listening to.

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Do you guys want to jump in on that?

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Well, I've been listening, okay, for like the past, I think, six months, I've been listening to like a ton of cow decapitation and like aborted and like more like death grind kind of stuff. But like the past couple of weeks, I've been listening to like happy fusion music. Okay. So like thank you scientists and like trio escapes and I don't know, some tribal tech in there and stuff. I don't know. It's just nice. Like when you leave your house, you put on some happy jams and you're jamming out in the car.

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It sets a positive aspect for the day and then on the way home I can listen to Cal Decapitation and be like, "Fuck everything."

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For me, lately it's been a lot of, like Kronos I was talking about at the very beginning, they just released a new album last week. I'll be checking that out.

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So I've been listening to that a lot. Death Metal as always, like Beyond Creation and all that stuff.

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Usually though, I'll listen to Monsters and Men. Honestly, come on. That's my clean singing, clean guitar or whatever band that I go to all the time. They're simple tunes, but I love them. Like you were saying about happy tunes. They're happy tunes. There's nothing complicated at all about the music, but it's just good.

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I listen to all the time. Cool. My happy tunes are kind of complicated, but

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they're still happy. Also, since the Monsters of Men just released a new album,

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I've been listening to that too. Cool. Jay, what you been listening to? All right. Well, one that you guys are not listening to, and I'm not going to rub you about it, but I really like that

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Vatnet Vizcar record. I think it's really good. Good. The production doesn't agree with George and Buke. Not at all.

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I have spun quite a few times the new Children of Bottom record. I think that's great. Or Bodum. Bodum. Yeah, I think that's a really good record. And then finally, the other thing that I've been listening to. Oh, this band I found on Bandcamp. It's not pop metal by a long sense, but it's not like a death metal band or anything. But anyway, they're called Rosie Finch. They're from Spain. I listen to that. And I like that the opening track is the best one. They're kind of a stoner doom band, I guess you would call them. And they sing only in Spanish. It's two chicks.

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And when they kind of do the dual vocal thing, it's pretty super eerie. I like it. I like what they're doing. Right on. These guys don't have time for competition on Bandcamp. Do you hear them? Oh, yeah. Fuck those guys. I didn't get a lot of sleep. I swear I'm having a great time. You see, again, after the cow decapitation, he's back to... Maybe if I start playing some more, they'll pick up again. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't still thinking about it. Okay, I kind of forgot, actually.

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I saved it because I wanted us to talk about first off

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the Nine Circles guys mentioned them on their podcast last week

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I've been listening to a ton of Obscura

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Reef

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before I listened to them but it was a passing listen

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I really dove in deep to them the past week there

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I nearly cried when they couldn't be on Summer's Forder

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Obscura whatever

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Alkaloid is where it's at

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oh my god that record

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but I mean on the other hand

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I feel like that's kind of a

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It's mostly obscure, but like so you expect it to be fucking awesome

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It's great. I like it better than the last obscure record. I do too. So yeah, it's weird

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That was amazing. It made our list to a mirror interview your list last year

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Did you guys have a album from last year last year?

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What came out last year?

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I don't remember

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I'm not trying to put you on the spot.

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Lucid Collective came out last year. That was pretty cool.

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Last year 13

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I don't know what came out last year. What stuff? Yeah. Trypticon came out last year god damn it. Yeah like I'm thinking the stuff that came out in like 2012 2013 this year already. You guys got school. You guys got lives going on okay. I understand you guys don't have time for music okay. It's fine. Do you have any more collective ones last year? Was that last year? I do. The Lamb of God. I wanted to share my thoughts on it. All right.

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I had a chance to really, you know, it came out last Friday, got the vinyl, really dove in to listen to it, gave it a couple listens through, and after Resolution, each of the albums for me, I've enjoyed more and more. But this new one, I know they went out and tried different things on it, but I'm not sold on it yet. Randy, I have no problem with him singing. No problem whatsoever. But they add this weird,

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effect on his vocals it sounds when it's not just true it doesn't sound truly clean all right

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did you hear that a little bit on overlord yeah some of the john the couple tracks where you say it's it doesn't sound

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just like clean singing that i'd expect to hear no it was weird to it could be he's just not you know because he doesn't do clean vocals he may be uh using a crutch as people you know throw on some

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So much reverb and things like that when they're not sure of their voice. Yeah. With each Name of God album in the past, you know, be it Walk With Me. That's not an album. No, the songs, I'm saying. With like Walk With Me or Redneck or... With these songs we can keep naming, they catch you right away when you first listen to them. That's why they're... Nothing on this album, first or second playthrough, got its hook

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Yeah, it's funny because it took reading the Randy's book to really like get me into this album. Now I'm like, oh yeah, I like this. Yeah, it's not bad, but it's not that instant. I want to keep it on repeat and keep hearing it like previous. Another album he just showed me, I can't believe I forgot about, they came out last year, was The Flesh Prevails. From Georgia. All he ever fucking talks about. Me? I'm kidding. I was like, I never talk about that. I talk about Harvest Wounds a lot more. I like Harvest Wounds.

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Yeah, me too. I do like my songs better. There's actually a lot of good albums that came out last year. It's just when you start to think about it, you totally forget all of them. Yeah. That's why we write them down. Yeah, like when he showed me that, I was like, oh yeah, I remember where I was when I bought that. And then I was like, and I completely forgot it came out last year. Yeah. That was a good album. It's funny. I find myself talking about them a lot here, and they're not even my favorite band. But they've just been coming up a lot for me. Yeah, it's okay. It's okay. That's what you guys like.

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So what I've been listening to I've got two of them this week

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The first one gets the what the fuck were you thinking when you named your band award

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There's a band called trapped within burning machinery

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And their new album the fifth element which

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Turns out is actually based on the movie the fifth element. Wow, which

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That's deep. That's a little unusual. I would think

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It's a concept album based around the

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The Female Blue Singer Lady that was briefly in the movie. I can't remember the name now. I couldn't pronounce it if I could. But yeah, it's sort of an unusual topic, but I heard this on Bandcamp, and it's pretty fucking cool. I think it's a great idea, George, by the way. I like that concept. First of all, I love that movie. I think it's a really good movie. I like the movie, but I wouldn't write an album about it. Well, no, no, no. I was under the impression it was supposed to be the opera she was singing or something.

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But apparently she sings like really heavy music. But it's pretty interesting. So, you know, check it out. Cool. And the other one that I've been listening to is a black metal band called Devathorn and their new album Veritra. I don't know how the fuck to say that. Is there a question mark on the end of it like that? No, no. V-R-I-T-R-I. Wait, no. V-R-I-T-R-I.

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But I just call them Arstadier Leifson's. It's probably not even close. You're digging that, by the way. You said you were digging that. I mean, I kind of cut you off. That's a good record you were talking about. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty good. It's, you know, above average black metal. Okay, cool. So why don't we move on to our classic albums?

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Anything 20 years or older? Absolutely. I was... Alright. I saw that I had to think of something. And like... I've been thinking about it all week because like... There have been so many cool albums. Like that are more than 20 years old. Like most of like the albums that I think now we do is like... Jazz records. Really important. But like... I don't know. I guess we're talking about metal. Like I was thinking about Power Slave by Iron Maiden for a while. Hell yeah. But then like... Power Slave was awesome. But like... I was thinking about like...

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I got a couple of things that immediately come to mind.

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You got "Fysical Graffiti" from Zeppelin. They're some of my favorite. "Fareworld of Kings" definitely. Some of my favorite classic rock, progressive rock albums ever. I could listen to those bands all day long. It's just great, great stuff. Excellent. Good calls. Jay? I chose kind of a weird one. These guys had... I used to just buy anything that was on Megaforce Records or Combat

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And anyway, there was a band that I kind of liked, okay. And then they came out with this record that I really liked. Long story short, they're reuniting. They have reunited. They're at Death Fest this year. So Exciter, Long Live the Loud was a record I really dug. Summer came out. I listened to it a bunch of times. And I'm looking forward to their set because I'm assuming they're just going to do stuff from those days. We'll see. I've got Long Live the Loud on vinyl. I had it on vinyl as a child.

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That's a good one. All right, Buke. We're seeing them next week, or was it two weeks? I don't know. I'll move some track of time. It's like two weeks, I think. That's right. I have to go to the barbecue. Down, their NOLA album. The first album from this. Came out in 95 or 96, wherever it is. Now, this is one of Buke's Holy Grail vinyl albums. He's always wanted it on vinyl. I've got it on my list that I want to, but obviously it's a much bigger album for Buke. I wanted to ask you, because, you know,

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It rarely comes up that you can find a copy of NOLA on vinyl. And when you do, it's always like 175 euros. Yeah. Which is, you know, that's at least $200. How pissed would you be if I broke down and bought NOLA for myself at that price? Because I'd be like, I can offer it to you, but you're not going to buy it at that price. So would you hold it against me if I did? Yes. Yeah.

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I haven't bought it yet.

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No, because we have experience with this.

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George Bloodbath, one of my favorite bands,

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George, he bought me a copy later,

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but he got a Bloodbath vinyl that I am crazy about.

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He got it on vinyl, and I was legitimately like lost my puppy,

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heartbroken about it.

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And this album, this down album, I have been trying to fucking find,

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but it is extremely pricey, extremely rare.

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For what it's worth, I actually, that album, that LP on vinyl is higher on my list to look for whenever I go looking for records. And it's not for me. It's just because I know you would shit if I found it at a reasonable price. Yes, yes. So just know that I'm out there looking for you. I really am. This, the two, and I just got one, the Ice Earth, the Dark Saga, that checked off one of my top three. And then the next one would be Gwar and their Scum Dogs. Yeah, can't find that one anywhere. Can't find that one anywhere reasonably priced.

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But the downs even more. Yep. A lot more. Did you ever see Odorous read Goodnight Moon? Yeah. That's hilarious. God. That was incredible. We have a piece of Odorous upstairs. Yeah, there's a piece of Odorous. Seriously? Yeah. Last year at Gwar-BQ they did a Viking funeral for the costume. Yeah. And I went and stole a burnt piece. And so I have it in a plastic bag. I'm going to frame it out. Can we see that? Can I take a picture with that?

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I mean it's just a burnt piece about yay long rubber but it's odorous so he's here in the house costume like yeah it's cool yeah yeah I feel like I'm a part of history in this house yeah um is it me not yes it is me all right my classic album from 1993 which is older than these guys yeah um weird to think the 90s is classic but those 20 years ago yeah 1993 avoid it

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and the Outer Limits. This was the album that sort of ended their cool sci-fi period. Well, they're still sci-fi, but the cool sci-fi period that they were in with Nothing Face and Angel Rat and Outer Limits. Because after Outer Limits, Snake left the band. They had a different singer for two albums. And then when they did finally get back together again with Jason Newstead, the sound was completely different.

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That's a whole different thing.

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Was that the album?

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No, they're self-titled.

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He came with them, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah.

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And this is also one of my Holy Grail vinyls that I have.

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I've only seen it for like $250.

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Yeah.

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Heartbreaking, yeah.

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Yeah.

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But it comes with 3D glasses because it's all like 50s sci-fi themed.

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That's actually fucking badass.

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Yeah.

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The CD when I got it, it had like a comic book in it.

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And you could put on the glasses and read it in 3D.

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It was cool.

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Nice.

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All right. This is another one of our newer segments. It's called Vinyl Acquisitions. I'm guessing you guys probably don't have any vinyl acquisitions. So if you want to just throw out something that you've bought recently. I have a decent amount of vinyl, actually. There's vinyl that I'd like to get, and there's vinyl that

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My Dad already had. A lot of the stuff he has is a lot of old Beatles records on vinyl. I've got some of my dad's old Beatles records on vinyl. Actually, I was talking about Physical Graffiti before. He has that on vinyl. That sounds really good. Stuff I bought, it's all digital now. What did I buy recently? I think the most recent thing I actually bought was a Kronos record. All my dad's old records are like

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He's trance. That's what he was into. But I have a couple Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath records hanging on my wall because I think they're cool looking. Yeah, they make good artwork. And they were like, I don't know, they were some more influential albums on all the music that we listen to today. Yeah, he had a power slave hanging about his computer. Excellent. All right. Jay, what do you got? Short list for me this week. I picked up a copy of a specific pressing I wanted of Merciful Fate, Don't Break the O.

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I already had it yeah and I'm actually

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going to send my other copy which is

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mint but I just didn't yeah so it

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basically they just re-released them a

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couple years ago on 180 gram vinyl

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and the Melissa one is red see-through

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and don't break the oath is yellow see-through

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so anyway I finally picked that up and

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then I ordered and the monster magnet

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that reimagining when we're talking about

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today and I didn't have mastermind and

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vinyl so I got that too and that's it it's

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pretty slow vinyl week around here so

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cool Buk what do you got it's never a

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a slow vinyl week for me and my fight to beat George. Never going to happen. Never going to happen. But I took a trip to Vienna last weekend. Oh, yeah? Well, I didn't get a call. You were gone. That's right, I was. This guy's a motherfucking sniper. He's like, oh, I smell metal. I better go out there and get it before George does. I got a Garage Days copy. Mint. 20 bucks. The Revisited or the Old?

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The old old one. Revisited. Not the old old one. But I will say, Jay, my prized piece in my collection is a Metal Massacre compilation. Like, back in the day, it's worth like a couple hundred bucks. Yeah. Is that the one with the lights on it and everything you mean? Yeah. Right on. I got, what else did I pick up there? Because I didn't want to leave with nothing. It's a sickness that George and I have. I got the picked up Nightwish's newest album just because I want to hear

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what they're sounding like now. I saw your fucking face that you made. Why not hear what they're fucking... The lead singer's hot. Why not check them out? Whatever. Nothing's fucking super special. I may never even open it, but I fucking bought it. I got the Them reissued King Diamond. That was $25. I went to the store on Thursday. I picked up the Sabotage Power of the Night record. Love that one. Picked you up.

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Sorry, your Venom. I found the old Venom record for you. Ein Klein Nacht Musik. All right. And that's it. All right. I don't have too much. I got the Candlemas album, King of the Gray Islands. Sweet! Sleep's Holy Mountain reissued that just came out on Earache. Good choices, both, dude. And of course, as Buk mentioned, he got me the Venom Ein Klein Nacht Musik. He also picked me up the new Enslaved in Times. So thank you, sir.

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I told you this before, George, but I don't know if I've said it on the air. But yeah, King of the Greylands is like, even though I know it's the past, the Messiah period, but that's a great record, dude. Robert Lowe's a great singer. Yeah, and that record is just super heavy, super heavy. Yeah. All right. We're nearing the home stretch. One last segment, and this is the new one that Jay came up with. Jay's coming up with all sorts of good ideas. Taking over the show.

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What have you been doing, Buke? I think the comic relief. Okay. This is Deep Tracks. We started this segment on the last episode where we try and pick a song from a band or an album that maybe not everybody's heard. Everybody knows Angel of Death off Rain and Blood, but a song that maybe people haven't heard that you think is really awesome. Any thoughts over there?

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That's cool. Doesn't matter. Yeah, I mean... A song that everybody knows and they're saying them. George, what did you do last week? I did Escape from Metallica off of Ride the Lightning. I would say just think of whatever... It could be Cattle Decapitation since you guys like them, but when you talk to other fans of them, you know, it's nine times out of ten people end up talking about the same tracks. We all have our secret favorites where it's like, how come nobody else thinks this is the shit?

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When you say that, the first thing that comes to my mind is when we talk to our one guitarist about more modern death metal bands, one time we're talking about the Faceless and Planetary Duality, so of course talking about Xeno Christ, and then he goes Prison Born. I was like, what are you talking about? We know the song. He's like, that is my favorite song in that album. That is nobody's favorite song in that album. And that's what we're talking about. That's what we're talking about. That's actually the opening track to that album too.

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It's like two minutes. It's just done. So yeah, you know, you gotta talk about like Prison Borne and stuff like that, you know, even on with, you know, we're sticking on the faceless, you know, their next record, Autotheism, not a lot of people talk about, like a lot of people talk about, uh, Deconsecrate, but nobody talks about, uh, God, what was the fucking song before that? Movement 2. Movement 2. Yeah, Emancipate. I don't know. I feel like just because all the songs are part of like the same

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Movement that like I don't know that's not even worth mentioning I feel like every every song off that album was solid and like everybody knows it it didn't like deconsecrate was kind of like the song but like I feel like they were all pretty fair game so do you have one not yet I'm thinking all right we'll come we'll come back to you Jay does it just have to be metal no we won't we won't like you know yell at you or anything yeah okay so mine is

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This whole record is kind of a deep cut for me. It's Black Sabbath Born Again, which I think is a great, great, great, great, great record. And yeah, when I hear people talk about it, they always mention Zero the Hero and Trashed and stuff like that. But the title track is this weird, slow, bluesy, scary, fucking almost valid, the song Born Again. So anyway, that's my choice. That's like one of, that would rank in my top 10 favorite Black Sabbath songs, actually. Nice.

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I think maybe off the Rush album Farewell to Kings, one of my favorite songs in that album is Cygnus X1. Yeah, that's a good choice. I've never had a conversation about that song with anybody. Yeah. But last time I saw them live, they played it for the first time in like 10 years or something. Sweet. I lost my mind. I was like, there's no way they're going to, oh my fucking God, they just played it. I was like, it was crazy.

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That's awesome. I think, I don't know, this is a hard segment for me. I think so, too. But off Dillinger Escape Plan on Ireworks, I think there's a song called Milk Lizard. And I felt like it really tied together both sides of their music. But everybody kind of overlooked it because it had the poppy side, but it was also still really aggressive. And I thought that was a cool song. All right on. Cool.

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"Puk" off of their first album, off of Orchid from Opeth. A track that I fucking love that they played live for the first time a couple years ago. At least in all the times I've seen them, the 14 or 15 times. "Forrest of October." Just a classic, heavy sound from them. Awesome, awesome fucking song. George is like, "All right, so couldn't be bothered."

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Well, hey, at least John's happy, right? I'll get his approval tonight. All right. Well, mine is a song from an album that a lot of people that were fans of this band didn't care for. The band is Slayer. The album is Diabolus and Musica. That's a deep fucking cut album by itself. And the song is called Overt Enemy. It's a Hanneman song. Both lyrics and music were done by Jeff Hanneman. Drunk?

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You should make a killing. More than likely. And I thought I would quote a few of the lyrics just to point out why I fucking love this song so much. It goes, Don't cross my path or I'll see you burn. You'll meet your end. Find death alone. No grave to mark the seeds you've sown. You've pushed too far. My secrets I defend. And when you've got Tom Uriah fucking singing that and it's got that fucking Hanneman groove going. Yeah. Fucking killer song.

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I'm sorry. Cool. Awesome. That's the definition of deep cut. That album definitely was a deep cut. I'm not going to pretend like I didn't love it when I was in the Slayer. Yeah. I love that album still. I know it's slightly different. They were sort of changing a little bit for the times, I guess, but I still love it. That's deep. Yeah, I knew nobody was going to back me up on that one. All right. I've got one last thing that I want to talk about before we wrap this thing up.

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about how we there's just a ton of countries out there that listen to the podcast and at current count there's 95 different countries and territories that have listened to the podcast so I want to thank everybody out there and I thought I would do a top 10 countries outside of the US that have been listening to the podcast in terms of most numbers of listens so starting at number 10 we've got Mexico number nine the Netherlands number eight France number seven Sweden

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Number 6 Australia Number 5 Germany Hell yeah Surprise number 4 Poland Number 3 Finland Number 2 Canada Number 1 the United Kingdom Wow interesting Thanks to all those people out there that have been giving us so much love and attention We love you too We're about to get to the last song from Perihelion But before we wrap things up I just want to remind you to check us out on

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I'm at Opethfan and he's at CatatonicJ.

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Yeah, and I got to sneak in here too, George, for we had a little contest at the end of last week and for people to put comments up on iTunes and people nicely did that. But if you did that, we really need you to contact us with your mailing information so that we can mail the CDs to you. You know who you are.

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Yeah, you can direct tweet, or you can email... George at... Yeah, George at WeAreMetalHeads.com, or George at Metal. Can I get one of those emails? That sounds pretty cool. Yeah, I'm also George at MetalDisciple.com. Yeah, please get a hold of us so that Jay can make good on that promise, because we can see him up there on iTunes, but we have no way of contacting you through iTunes.

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And if you haven't yet gone and left us a review on iTunes, please do so. The ones that we got this past week really made our day. And if you make our day, we'll keep doing this. So make sure to also check us out on Instagram, YouTube, Stitcher, and of course, MetalheadsPodcast.com. All right. Before we finish up here, do you guys have anything else you want to talk about or plug before we play the last song? Did we plug Death Fest next weekend yet? You mentioned it. I can't remember.

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If you're recording or not, but yeah, we're playing Louisville Death Fest next weekend. August 8th? Maybe. Next Saturday. Death Fest is the 8th and 9th in Kentucky. Anyway, it's going to be really cool, and we're excited for it, so hopefully if anybody out here is in Louisville should go to that. Okay. Your guys' website? Your album? Where can people get it? Bandcamp. Yeah, albums on Bandcamp. Listen to it, please. Check out our Facebook page, too. The album, again,

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"Infinite Decay" by Perihelion. What's the best way for people to follow you guys? Facebook? Facebook. We're probably most active on Facebook. We also have a YouTube which we'll post videos on of us playing the songs and stuff from time to time. Most recently we've posted the pre-production singles back before the album was released and most recently we've had I Did A Bass Playthrough of that. That's on our channel right now. And please, like every band we have on here, support these guys. Don't just go on band

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and can't listen to the songs buy it support these guys yep or torrent it from russian sites

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yeah that works just check these guys out you know they're you know upstart guys here just trying to

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fucking make it now so yep see what you guys hopefully you guys years we're talking about you guys

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how awesome remember that time we had them on here before they were all big shots yep i'd still be down to come i would definitely come back to this right on that's what we like to hear you know we we tend to hear that a lot and so

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It's good when we hear that because we must be doing something right. I think this is pretty much what we do. We just sit around and talk about metal. Exactly. This is what we do. I was inspired by Kevin Smith because he was like, if you just sit around talking to your friends, throw up a microphone and do it. I was like, alright, I'll do that. That's great. That's awesome. One more thing before we go. As we alluded to earlier, Buk and I will be going out to Fairwinds Brewery in Lorton, Virginia tonight.

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to check out Brutality at the Brewery 2. If you listen to the podcast at all, you've probably heard our friend Will, Brewmaster Will. He's the head brewer over there at Fairwinds. And he's having a metal night tonight at the Brewery. They're going to be featuring a new beer that Will brewed for the band Yesterday's Saints. It's called Seas of Annihilation? Yep.

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I believe that's it. Sounds like it will get you fucked up. Probably. Yeah, so we'll be going out there and apparently Will wants us to do some coverage, so we'll be bringing a mic along and talking to some people. Well, Buick will be talking to people. I'll be holding the mic. And I'll be drinking beer. And Buick will be talking to people. So if you're in the area, you can check it out, but you won't hear this until about a week after it happens. So just know that we probably had a good time. And there may be some extra content.

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Yeah, yeah. I don't know if we'll tack it on at the end or put it in as an extra episode, but look for that. Unless, of course, it fucking sucks and then we don't post it. But since this is something Will has done before and all indications will do in the future, use this as kind of like how we would handle a concert review. Yeah. The last one was a few months ago. It was King Giant for their album release. So, all right. We are in the homestretch now, finally.

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This is the song that we will play you out with. It's called Devouring Life Forms from Perihelion's Infinite Decay. You guys want to give us a little info on this song before we play it? I wrote this song when I was listening to a lot of Archspire and everybody says it sounds like Rings of Saturn. That makes me kind of sad. We want to make it very clear this was not a ripoff of Rings of Saturn. It's funny because we don't even listen to Rings of Saturn. Everybody was like, man, you guys sound like Rings of Saturn. We're like, this is the first thing we ever put out.

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It's already going downhill.

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Over to the metal world.

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Yeah, so.

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Alright.

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Enjoy it.

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It's also the last song on our album, so.

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Yep.

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He's right.

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It's not.

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It's not.

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Dream Within is the last time now.

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It's the last thing we close.

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It's what we close our live sets with.

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I thought, I dream with that, I thought.

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Yeah, it's Dream Within.

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When I first had it, I had Dream Within as like a placeholder in there.

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Yeah.

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As being the last song on our album.

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Yeah.

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We close all of our sets with this song.

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Like we start with Infinite Decay, we always close with Devouring Life Forms.

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Alright, well there you have it.

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And we just want to thank these guys for coming on to talk to us. Thank you for having us. Thank you. We'll be back next time with Infero Brou. Be safe. Sacrifice children to Satan. All right, here it is, Devouring Lifeforms.

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Дево-д

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You're making me feelin' star! Take a look at it, it's a vision plan! And take a look at it from what you're doing! Oh, I'm so sorry!

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To the character, demonetizing... The demonetizing is in death! With the fire of the demonetizing, nothing is nice. The man has a side of the top of the top, the man.

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КОНЕЦЕЛЬНОМ!

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I'm stuck to death, I'm in this universe

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Паразар

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I can't see you, but I can't see you.

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I have no more.