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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, metal's my religion, and yeah, it's my dope. Standing in the thunder on stage in the pouring metal rain. What a feeling, baby, the lights are exploding.

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Hello and welcome to the Metalheads Podcast. My name is George.

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This is Buke. And this is Jay. And we are here today with Tom from Allfather. How you doing, Tom? Hey, how's it going? You all right? Pretty good. Tom, why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself to us, tell us about your band and get things rolling. So, yeah, I'm the vocalist with Allfather. I say vocalist. I'm not a singer. I'm definitely a vocalist. We've been together for a couple of years now, two and a half years. We've had an EP out, which came out about a year ago.

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No Gods, No Masters, which is a four-track, ten-minute EP. And then we're just in the process of releasing our new... Well, it kind of was going to be another EP, but sort of ended up being a bit too long for an EP and not quite long enough for an album. So I keep referring it to as our new record. And that comes out, I think, 29th of April. And that's called Bless the Earth with Fire. So, yeah. Right on. Now... I think it's either a capital EP or a small LP.

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As in lowercase LP. Which incidentally, I'm going to plug it a little bit for you and just tell people that they can go listen to, I believe, the first track on the album and the bonus track. Right now you can hear them. Yeah, I think that's on our band camp. And then if you look at No Clean Singing, it's got the first track off it. And then I think it might be on the Static Tension band camp as well. It's all scattered all over the place at the moment. So you can definitely go hear stuff though. Right on. Now listening to this, you may have noticed that one of these things is not like the other.

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So where exactly are you Tom? Oh yeah shit. I'm in England. So Rochester in England which is about 40 miles outside London. Right on. So down in Kent. So yeah I'm a few miles away from you guys. Do you swear allegiance to any football team in the club? Nope. Nope. I just wanted to make sure like you weren't going to hang up the call if like you found out like you know I was a Liverpool fan or like there's any Manchester fans listening or something like that.

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Now's your chance to get a fucking ribbon at them. Nah, when I was a kid, I was a Liverpool fan. Basically, they were the best team going at the time. But as I got older, I don't give a shit about football anymore. How's the weather out there right now? We're having kind of English weather here today. Yeah, it's been freezing. Well, UK freezing, which isn't necessarily America freezing for the past few weeks, actually. But it's just a bit grey and miserable today. Kids are out on the trampoline still, though. But yeah, it's a bit dull at the moment. A bit drizzly.

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Hey Tom, I wanted to get away from the weather questions and actually get to what the fucking meat of this podcast is about here. What attracted me and drew me to you guys first was I saw, hey, a band from the UK, but you clearly put out there a hardcore band, which was interesting to me because here I associate hardcore with almost kind of an American thing. Is there a big hardcore scene over there? And I know you guys aren't like a hardcore hate breed or

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I can't think of any other hardcore bands on my head right now. But you guys don't have the stereotypical hardcore sound, but I can hear it in your... No, they don't. Yeah, but it shines through, though. And also, listening to your EP, The No Gods, No Masters, correct me if I'm wrong here, there's a strong, almost clutch sound that shines through on that album. I don't like this word necessarily, but it's like a stoner rock doom thing going on a little bit, which I don't mean to step on you there, Tom, but it feels so much more like that to me.

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So, I think there's about four questions there. I'll start. Typical. Typical for this pod. Yeah, yeah. No, there is a brass, anyway, big hardcore scene over here. And it's all obviously influenced, I think, from stuff, you know, a lot of New York hardcore stuff. But also, you know, UK punk bands and stuff like that. It had just come together over here as well. Where we are down in Kent, actually, there's probably a bigger hardcore scene than there is a metal scene, which is why,

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quite a few of the bills we play on hardcore shows. Kieran, our drummer, is a drummer in a hardcore band called Unholy Majesty as well. He's drummed in other hardcore bands. So yeah, there is a big hardcore scene over here. And I've enjoyed hardcore as much as I've enjoyed metal or anything else since I was a teenager. So in terms of what we sound like, I'm 37.

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I got into them doing Blast Tyrant.

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So I saw the room a couple of times, I had a couple of tracks, but then I got Blast Tyrant and I just thought it was absolutely phenomenal. Every single track on there is absolutely perfect. So I love all that stuff. We wanted to sort of mix some stuff up and Andrew, the other guy we started with, loves Doom. He calls himself, he's a librarian, so he's a Doombrarian. There's some stuff like that in it as well. On the first EP, there's like some punky stuff. On this one, there's some like, there's one,

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And we've got a really long sort of Doomy track, but in the middle we throw some thrashy stuff. So we tried to make sure that we're not, you know, we don't want to be like this genre bending band that has every single thing you can imagine in there. But at the same time, there's about a million Dooms bands out there all doing really good straight up Dooms. And we couldn't compete with that necessarily. So, and I'd get bored. You know, my vocal range isn't necessarily for fucking Dooms singing. So we just wanted to make good heavy music really. And we've chucked in everything that we like.

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as a result of it. So, you know, and sometimes when we're writing new songs, we have a bit of an argue because Kieran, who's in a hardcore band, desperately wants to write some stoner stuff. I want to write stuff that people can mosh to and, you know, that are energetic and then we get everything in the middle of that. So it's kind of what we've sort of come out with the stuff we have, hopefully. It's a mixture of everything, but with a clear sound to it. So we sound like Allfather at the same time. I don't know if we've achieved that, but that's kind of what we wanted to do. You've broken on a brilliant, I think, marketing strategy here.

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is with all those different things that whenever any of those particular styles of music becomes the thing, you guys can just say, yeah, that's who we are. So like, I mean, we got to get a little country in there so that when that country is huge over there, you can be like, yeah, we're a country band. Never change a thing about yourselves. If you incorporate everything, you appeal to everyone. There you go. There you go. Well, we don't have any rap bits in there yet and we haven't got Scar in there either. So we might, you know, see what happens next album.

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Is there much of a... I'm not a punk guy, but I know a lot of punk bands came up from around your area. Is there even much of a punk scene left, Tom, in that area? Not since the skate punk thing, like the Epitaph and Backwreck stuff came out in the late 90s and stuff like that. I think a lot of that's been struggling. There's not been loads of it. There's an underground, obviously, all the time, but in terms of big shows and stuff like that, there's a scene for everything over here, really.

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if you want to go to small enough shows. I think at the moment, in the UK at least, there's some really, really, really good stuff coming out. Some really good metal and all different types of metal. It's just we're stuck down in a corner that isn't necessarily connected to many of those scenes. You've got London, obviously it's a major city and any day of the week you can see any number of gigs and stuff going on. But yeah, there's a lot of punk stuff and especially around here, like in Kent is near Bromley where a lot of the punk scenes started.

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over here and you laugh but there's a big scar and two-tone scene down here as well a lot of that stuff started around Kent so there's a lot of music over here basically but it's it's sort of a lot of small scale but you know there's a lot going on what was your introduction Tom what did you yourself personally what got you into music and what did you first start dabbling with leading you to where you're at now with Allfather I think a guy called David Arbin who used to go to school with his brother was like

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The Quintessential 80s metalhead, leather jacket, long hair. And he brought in a tape. I think it was. So I think I was aware of like Guns N' Roses and a bit of things like that and a few songs. But he brought in to me the Black Album on tape. But the Black Album obviously didn't, had some gaps on a 90-minute cassette tape. So he filled in the gaps with stuff like, I think it was so, Master of Puppets, the song, either Blackened or Battery, I can't remember which one, Seek and Destroy and a couple of other tracks.

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So that's also the black album plus the bonuses. And that I think was the thing that got me going into metal at least anyway. So yeah, that tape. I wish I still had it, but I don't. But that tape, when I heard that, I was like, fucking hell. I have a question, but it just occurs to me. When the black album is on tape, is it called the black tape? I never really realized that. Well, there you go. And speaking about tapes, Bless the Earth with Fire.

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is your guys' new album coming out. And like you've heard us mentioning here on the pod, I'm not talking shit about this. I want to know, why are you guys doing a cassette release of the album? Is it just like a why not? Well, because when we spoke to the record label releasing it, that's what they thought they wanted to do. So we said, yeah, fuck it. Okay. I don't get it necessarily myself.

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I remember cassettes apart from putting mixtapes together being an absolute pain in the ass format but people seem to like them and you know we went yeah fine okay that sounds cool I just posted a bunch of pictures of some old cassettes that I dug out on Instagram I guess it's on Facebook and Twitter too and that got some interest because I would never listen to this stuff again but I know that people like it so I thought they might dig it what is it about cassettes why would

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They come back in any aspect. What is there to like about them? Because they're retro? Yeah, that's it. Retro and nothing else. Sorry, Tom. Curtis, our PR guy, I was asking the same question. I'm like, why the fuck does anyone want to buy cassettes? And he said, I've got a collection. They take up less space than CDs. They're a nice little thing to have. They're a bit cheaper than CDs. You know what? But then so are buttons.

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But, mate, if people are going to buy it, I ain't fucking moaning, frankly. Oh, no, no, yeah, I know. And we don't expect you to defend it, by the way. We're always mystified by this new movement in the music world. Although I am kind of looking forward to getting my hands on one, see what it looks like. So, I mean, that's how I used to listen to music all the time. Oh, hell yeah. So, there is a lot of interest in it for me. Oh, dude, you need five copies, you know? We all need a copy. Yeah. So, I understand that you're a fan of metalcore. Well, so, what I've

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Yeah, yeah. Put you on the spot. Yeah, yeah. No, I knew you would. It's all right. Well, I want to talk to you guys about this because actually, last, last, I was listening yesterday, in fact, listening to the last pod just before George, me and George were fucking about with microphones and stuff on my laptop. And you're like, oh, yeah, metalcore. But then Buke went on to say how much he used to like kill switch engage. Now, for me, when I talk about metalcore and my love of metalcore and the fact I like it, that's what metalcore means to me, like that sort of kill switch engage stuff,

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Unearthed, those sorts of bands, I really enjoy those bands, I do, that sort of heavy stuff with a bit of fluff to it, a bit of choruses, you know, catchy stuff, yeah, I like it, I mean, there is, I think probably, I don't see a lot of it, because I'm a bit older now, but I don't get interested in it, but a teenager, and there's a whole shit tonne of awful fucking music out there, that I think calls itself metalcore these days, that has that sort of breakdown, maybe a singy bit,

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Maybe another breakdown, if you're lucky, a little bit of twiddling, but that's about it. There's four or five of them released on iTunes every week, man, and you push the button and they all sound the same. Yeah, they're all like the 50th generation and stuff now. I mean, you know, when Shadows Fall first came out, I kind of liked them, and I'm sure there's probably a couple other metalcore-type bands, but it's just, like any good thing, it's been copied to the point of being useless.

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But like I tried to say, when we did our episode on the best albums of the last 15 years, Killswitch and Gage made that list for me. And the thing I like about Killswitch and those bands that Tom mentioned is, like to me, what a lot of metal still lacks now is, compared to the metalcore stuff, it's not catchy. Metalcore stuff like Killswitch, it's catchy. I can listen to it over and over and over and over again, and it's just, it's all

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the hooks it's it's it's it's fun to listen to i think sorry to just sort of push you aside tom but um i think i i agree with you on that buke and i think the problem is that they took it too far they tried to make it too poppy and and that's where kill switch is now because their new album came out and i haven't had any urge to go listen to it yeah i actually listened to it because i was trying to do you a solid so to speak to like be like give it a shot for buke and i only got three songs in before

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I was literally like, oh my god, I gotta turn this off. You got three songs and you threw the cassette out the window. Yeah, no, I had to turn it off. But I tried, man, I did. And the metal parts were pretty good. There's such a clash between the metal parts and the pop parts that it just doesn't fit for me. But there are still some bands, like All Hail the Yeti. They're technically a metalcore band, but they don't

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I don't go so far pop with their clean vocals and so I can get into that if if I could keep kill switch engage in this uh like their self-titled or their end of heartache like this little bottle and say hey guys don't break this mold I'd be happy then be like ACDC did you uh did you hear the times of grace album that uh oh I love that album that album was great Tom that that first track off it was it stroked in numbers yes yes if that is better than any of them

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new Killswitch stuff by about a million miles, I think. That's a great pull, yes. And if they'd done that more, and that doesn't go too poppy, and that doesn't go too singy and melodic and stuff, it keeps it pretty harsh, but still catchy as fuck. But yeah, the last Killswitch one as well, I weren't a big fan of. Everyone else was, but I just felt it had gone too far by that point. Do you guys see the news report that they're expecting this new Killswitch album to sell like 18,000

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copies or something. So obviously, Killswitch is still doing something right.

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Yeah.

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I would have thought when Jesse came back in the group that they would have got that early sound back again. They haven't. They've just drifted away from it more and more.

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Hey, George.

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Yeah.

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You want to slip out of here and you and I can start our own podcast with no medical on it?

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Well, I was just going to ask Tom. So for the next album after your new album,

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Are you guys going to bring in a second clean singer so you guys can throw some poppy parts in there to go from, you know, it'll be metal doomcore. Nah, that's right. Don't like it that much. Tom, hitting all these different sounds that you guys have in Allfather and members playing in various bands, is it hard to kind of please everybody or do you guys come to the table with so many fucking game plans that

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Maybe Fights Have Started? Or is anybody real passionate? It's like, no, Tom. This is the fucking hill I'm going to die on. If you take this part out, I'm fucking cutting you. I'm the only one that does that. The rest of the guys are actually all right. We've just written two new songs. One of them is fine. Everyone's really happy with it. We've got a nice little droly bit in the middle. It goes really slow and really heavy. It kicks in. That's all great.

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The first one we wrote is kind of a fast one. And everyone else is like, nah, this is shitty. This doesn't sound right. And I'm like, fuck off. We're going to play this. At the moment, I've not won that battle, but I intend to. But yeah, we disagree about stuff now and again, but actually it's not too bad. And only Kieran's the only other guy that plays in a band at the moment. The rest of us are too busy. We like work and families and stuff. But he's a bit younger than us as well. Is the writing a group effort, Tom?

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Yeah, well, it's kind of interesting because we don't have, you know, so the internet plays a massive part in our writing, frankly, because basically either Andrew, who started off as our guitarist but now is the bass player, and Alan, our lead guitarist, they're the two sort of writers. Andrew can just shit out brilliant riffs day after day. So, you know, in a week he'll put a couple of demos up on our private SoundCloud and go, what do you think of these? And most of them are like, yeah, that's,

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really good we can definitely do something with that and then alan will go away and spend hours locked in a darkened room and hating himself and coming out with a perfect one perfect song but only one every few weeks but he's like i think this is it lads i think this is it and generally it is so what we do is stick that up on on um soundcloud we then have a writing practice so we all listen to it and then we go along to the uh the practice and and work those work them out basically um we pick one and

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I'd say let's work that through so we spent four hours last Sunday on that on a new track and we've now got a six sort of minute song that we can that we've again recorded on a little digital recorder so we stick that back up and everyone listens to it again and then we'll go back in a couple of weeks and play it through again I'll add some vocals to it and hopefully that'll be a new song so then we have a bit of disagreement about you know should that be fast should that be slow and all those bits but generally we come up well hopefully we've shown

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that we come up with pretty good tracks. So are you speaking of that? Okay. So that kind of raises the question, which I'm always interested to hear what, for instance, what was the situation under which you actually recorded the new record? Is it, did you go into the studio? Is it all done at home? No, we go into the studio. So a guy called Jason Fry's got a, he's been in loads of bands. He's a, he's a, he's in a band called Harrow. If you guys like nails, you should check out. Cause they do like sort of grindy power violence thing. Really, really good. But our Corey stuff, you guys might not like that. I don't know, but they're good. I'll give them a deep.

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He recorded us, so he's a friend of Kieran's. He did the first EP, and then we went back and wanted to spend a bit more time doing it properly. So we spent, I think, six days in all, like one off, not in a row, but so we had a day and a bit of drums, two days of guitar, a couple of hours of bass. There's a reason for that. And a day of vocals as well. So maybe five days, and then we went back for a bit of

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But we just parted ways with our bass player at the time. So we didn't have a bass player. So Al and Kataris basically went down and just put all the bass lines down in an hour or two. But yeah, so we went into the studio, recorded them. It then got mixed over a couple of months. We agreed to mix and then we took that and got it mastered. So sort of fairly traditional way of recording. Yeah, cool. I have a question for you. It just came to me. Are there, you guys over there in,

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The UK. Are you guys kind of in your own, and this is in the year 2016, not that you guys are landlocked. You can't go anywhere. Are there any trends or anything in music that you don't understand or you guys have to kind of get past being there to kind of get in the clubs and stuff? Like, hey, you're not an indie rock band. You can't play here. I don't think we bother trying.

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Okay. Although that being said, in our town where we live, so it's called the Medway Towns, there's four little towns all together. It's got a big indie noise punky thing scene. And we've played a few shows with bands in that. And generally we sort of get a bit of a puzzled look. Actually, we've played a place called Poco Loco, which is a bar down in Chatham. And both times the PA has just been too small.

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because our guitars have blared it out and they're used to like sort of really clean cleanish guitars

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you don't even fucking bother with that anymore so um but no we you know we i think generally people take us

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take us all right we played a show a couple of weeks ago the band called the hell who like sort of

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it's like a comedy metalcore sort of band that good fun you know um but that was a proper hardcore show

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um you gotta describe a comedy metalcore before we get too far here okay uh so it's tongue it's it's

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I think they're on prosthetic records actually

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they're

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how do you describe it

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well they're like a slammy

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hardcore type band

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they've got a song called loads

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of money and stuff like that and they just shout

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lots about loads of money but it's all tongue in cheek

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so you're like

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fuck this is shit but actually they know it's shit

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so they do it really well at the same time

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to be fair I'm not a massive fan

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but a couple of our mates are

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and we all went down we were on

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I think third and we were playing and we were thinking oh fuck it's going to be loads of hardcore kids again looking at us a bit weird and then I think we kicked into the end of No Justice No Peace on the first EP and we had some they seemed to enjoy that because they started spin kicking each other a bit which is what hardcore kids do when they enjoy stuff I've never understood that and then at the end a good few people came up and went oh man that was really good that was really tight and it was oh cheers thanks yeah it was okay

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Yeah. So, you know, we do all right. We just get on and play and see what happens, basically. Cool. People can't see you, but you have a fucking epic beard. How long have you been growing that bad, bad boy? I know this. I have a friend here in the States. He does a podcast called the Geek Stuff Podcast. He's been getting into the beard world. And I didn't realize this until he started in it. There are beard clubs where these guys get together and

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I don't know if they just like show off their epic beards and talk about waxes and I don't know. Well, let me just say before you answer the question too, Tom, that the beard is so epic that it's actually eating up bandwidth. So where if you guys, if you're hearing, if you hear any skips, it's because of this beard over there. It's like there's an interference to it. If you go on their Facebook page, there's a statement, beards, metal, fuck you. That was funny. So are you the only one with a beard?

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No, no, no. There's only Joe. Well, Joe, our rhythm guitarist has got a shitty beard. So we pretend he hasn't got one. So Joe's left out. Point of laughing, Joe. Yeah. So I've been growing it. I've had a beard since I think I was about 18. But I think for the past three, I've grew it a few times, but nothing like this. Then about three years ago, I was doing, there was a fancy dress, dead celebrity fancy dress coming up. And tick-click might be a bit bad.

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I went as Dimebag and I grew it a little bit and it looked good and then I carried on growing it a bit more and I work for a charity so they're fairly relaxed at work about what you look like as long as you're smart when you need to be and then I was going to go for a few other jobs I was thinking oh shit I'm gonna have to shave it off and I didn't in the end so I just carried on and I've just carried on the other half the wife likes it I like it boss at work don't mind so I just kept growing it basically

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I'm not in a beard club I don't do any of that shit I use beard oil I do otherwise it gets itchy and looks fucking insane but I do that and in terms of our thing on the band camp the beards metal fuck you we were just trying to come up with this you know your bio in there and you don't want to sound like fucking pretentious arseholes and you know sort of all this sort of stuff and in the end I think Andrew just went fuck it how about beards metal fuck you and I'm like yeah that's it that's the one

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So we got our t-shirts with them on and then we've just ordered a load of beer coasters to go in any orders coming up from the new album and that's got beer metal fuck you on the back of them as well. I think we're going to have to update our homepage because our page says podcast interviews reviews metal and I need to tack on fuck you at the end. We just skipped over that statement. You know our brewer friend Will you've heard him on the podcast. He absolutely loves

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Loves Your Guy's New Album, Bless the Earth with Fire. He absolutely loves it. A promo copy was sent to us, and I'm loving it. He loves it, but he being a brewer, Will, that sums up your life. Beer, metal, fuck you. Exactly. I wanted to circle back around to what you mentioned about the beard oil. I've always been curious, how exactly does that work? How do you apply beard oil? For me, my beard can get a bit dry and a bit itchy.

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and stuff like that. So basically, you get your hand and you oil your beard up and it keeps it looking fairly neat, keeps it feeling nice and soft and stops it itching. It does for me anyway. Yeah, because I've only got like scruff here and anything longer than this and I itch like a mother. Yeah, it's hell. Yeah. Okay, now that we're starting down this road, Tom, you have beautiful skin. What do you use? Yeah, so George, enough with the hitting on the guy. Tom is a fan.

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Tom's a gorgeous man. I thought it was funny. And I was actually curious. So, okay, we're all beer guys here. How is the world of beer over there? Because, Tom, my experience, like even the Iron Maiden lager comes to mind. A lot of the English beers that I had are very light. Is there a craft beer scene over there? It's weird because traditionally, before all the, well, over here, our thoughts on American beer was it's shitty, weak,

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Fizzy stuff basically. It was true for a long time though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So traditionally our beer over here is ales and stuff like that. So the Iron Maiden stuff is a very good example of an English ale. It's not particularly strong but it's tasty. The other side of that, again until recently, was Continental Lager. So you're 5% like Stella Artois and all that sort of stuff. So you're either sort of like a drunken idiot,

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on Stella Artoile or you're an old fart sitting in a pub with a warm glass of ale. And I enjoy both, actually. I enjoy a good, strong, fizzy lager and some ale as well. But craft beer-wise, yeah, I think the last, I don't know, maybe 10 years, first of all, the ale scene over here, I think got bigger and bigger and bigger. More people being interested in different types of beer. Like, I'm not a beer expert, but I like drinking beer. That makes you a beer expert, my friend.

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When I was in London, I drank Fuller's. Do you like that stuff? Yeah, that's generic. What about Old Speckled Hen is one that I had when I was in England? Yeah, that's good. Again, that's your everyday ale stuff over here. That's not bad, actually, the Old Speckled Hen. I don't know if you can see at the moment. That's a Helles. That's a green demon from a local place. Cool label. It's basically like an ale, but as lager as you can get.

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as lagerry as you can get for an ale. So that's really nice. So as a beard-growing, metal-playing, beard-drinking dude from the UK, in my head, I'm picturing, were you one of those kids skipping rocks at seven years old, smoking and drinking, getting into trouble as a kid? No, up until I was about 16 or 17, I was a pretty good kid. I pretty much behaved myself.

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But then I went to, I changed schools, got into Metallica, started discovering beer, and then it kind of went a bit downhill from there. So we have two different types of exams. So you go up until you're 15, you do your GCSEs. And I did really well. So I changed schools and went to a better school to do my A-levels. And I was shit, absolutely shit. So I got into music, I got into going to nightclubs and stuff like that. And then, yeah, it went downhill from there.

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And then it was 10 years of, I don't know, about 5 or 6 years of not smoking necessarily. I've never smoked, but drinking and gigs and music and stuff like that until the kids came along. Yep, fast, women, lots of beers. I know. Hey, I have to ask, again, the new album we're talking about is Bless the Earth with Fire. It's going to be coming out soon on Bandcamp. It comes in at six tracks. Was that a conscious decision by you guys to kind of get in, hit you fast with six tracks and get out?

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Wanted you more than that? Well, that's kind of what we had at the time. So actually, we were planning another four-track EP, so it was just going to be four tracks. And then we got a free day in a studio. A new studio opened up, and they said we're asking bands to come down and record. So we sort of flipped about what we were going to do, like the tracks, and then we decided to add a track that we weren't going to record, so we got to five. So the actual EP is

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five tracks recorded. But then that extra free day, we had another song, and we did that. So the sixth track's actually a bonus track. The production won't sound like the rest of it and doesn't sound like the rest of it. But it was supposed to be four. We then went five. We stuck the other one on the end and thought, well, if we got five, we might as well have six. Okay. Did you guys have more songs written? No. Five was kind of what you guys had. No, okay. That's everything we had. So it was okay. So there was nothing left that got

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I don't have a cut or anything like that. No, that was all we had. Moving forward, I know this album isn't even out yet. Any plans for how 2016, the rest of the year, is going to play out for you guys? Or 2017? Gigs, so where we can get them. We've got, well actually we're in a current, you've got the Blugstock Festival over here. It's like a medium-sized metal festival. I think Slayer are headlining it. So we're in a Battle of the Bands competition at the moment.

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Okay, anything we can do to help you guys? Nah, just get people to buy the album or at least listen to it. Actually, I don't give a shit. No, I was talking about playing that festival. Oh, no, no, no. Normally I hear they're opening up voting or something. No, no, it's on the night. There's a set of judges and there's votes on the night. So we wanted to avoid that whole here's a video, get people to vote for it because it's exhausting trying to get people to vote for stuff like that. Well, George has deep pockets. Give us some judges.

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I don't know any of the bloody names either. So I can't bribe them. I can't threaten them. I can't do anything. I don't know who they are. So we're just going to turn up on the night and play our hearts out, really. So see what happens. I always get a kick out of your guys' grammar and how terms are, you know, words or things are used differently over there like they are here. Like, you know, fish and chips, you know, it's like fries and stuff.

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As it is over here. Yeah, crisps. Like a smoke, like a cigarette's called a fag or something. And what's with putting an R on the end of everything? Well, we spell stuff correctly, so you kind of put our language over there, so don't start moaning now. But you guys pronounce an R when there isn't one. Yeah, for years I thought Linda McCartney was spelled L-I-N-D-E-R. What would you say then, Linda?

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But where I was going with that is, does any of that make it into your guys' songwriting or your lyrics? And you're like, this is maybe a little too British. We should probably change this up. Make it a little more worldwide. Should we use the word Bamber Shoot or not? You know, I was out to dinner last night and I learned a little tidbit actually about the English accent. It had always been presumed that

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The Americans, when, you know, pre-revolution, that we also had English accents, and that we just lost it over time. But somebody, a friend of a friend, apparently did this research and found that actually, back in the day, we all sounded American, and that after the revolution, you guys hated us so much that you didn't want to talk like us anymore. And so it started changing. That's what happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. Well, you know, we're like you over here. So there's, you know, we say the American accent, but there's like,

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I don't know what thousands of different American accents. Yeah. There's hundreds of different English accents. If you guys were speaking to someone from Newcastle, you might struggle to understand what the fuck they're all about because, you know. But by the way, I don't know where he's from, but you've got a Rob Halford accent. But yeah, it's a little bit. But Tom, let me tell you this though, buddy. I'm from DC Metro area my whole life and people struggle to understand me. So for different reasons. You've got your own, you have your own exclusive accent, dude.

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And pronunciations, that's for sure. Exactly. I am glad you guys are really simple. All Father. Bless the Earth with Fire. That right there is a Buke album title. Yeah, but how do you pronounce that first song? Raskolnikov, I think. So this is one of Andrews. Me and him together write the lyrics. So either I write the lyrics, send them to him, he makes them awesome, or he writes the lyrics, send them to me, and I go.

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Yeah, they were awesome and I'll try and make sure they fit in the song. So that was one of his. So it's based on a character from Crime and Punishment. So it's about... Oh, wait, wait. It's from Crime and Punishment, you say? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the name of it again? So as I know, you got me on the spot now. Okay, yeah. I read that book. I'll have to try to remember who that character is. So I asked him what he was about. I'm like, what the fuck's this about, man? He's like, well, it's kind of like a mashup between that and the

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from Hell graphic novel about Jack the Ripper. And it's about that sort of, um, uh, when you've got a person that is so selfish and self-obsessed, they go out killing and stuff like that. And it's, it's sort of a psychopath thing. I'll get, I'll have to get him to explain it one day. It explains it far better than me, but that's what that song's about. And that's why it's called Raskolnikov. All right. Hey, Tom, I have to ask you this. You came on our radar, or at least on mine, uh, by your big presence on social media. Uh, is that something you recognized, uh, as like a great,

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I can get the band name out there if I mean this with the most respect because I whore myself out for the podcast on social media. If you just kind of reach out to as many people. Maybe I shouldn't ask this question because maybe he doesn't like us because he just was trying to get his name out there. It's a good question. I don't do Facebook at all.

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I only do Facebook to talk to the band so I'm a Twitter man through and through. I started just because I wanted to talk about music with people so my own personal account was just talking about music most of the time and that's what I did for ages and ages and the band came along and I sort of had a pretty good following already from that so I kind of thought well I sit in front of a laptop all day that's my you know most of my job is sitting in front of a laptop doing stuff.

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The Twitter can always be there. So it's easy to just go on to flip through stuff and do little things. But I think the approach I've taken is to try not at all to pour ourselves out at all, but just to be fairly decent on there and talk to people about stuff. And I don't spam people. I don't send people the album or anything like that. I just try and talk to people about what's going on. Exactly. And that was it. That was what put you, you know, when you and I started talking, you, like I had tweeted something,

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You and I built this friendship up over the last year, year and a half. We've been talking probably since George and I started the podcast. That's why having you on is a long time coming. You don't just blatantly hit people with, hey, here's the album. Here's a link. You engage people in conversation. Looking here, you already are supported. This new album has already been preordered by a number of people. A bunch of these people are all people I talk with on Twitter.

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So you're obviously getting out there and doing something right if these people are getting behind you and supporting your album even before it comes out. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Well, that's what again. I've got some some advice from a few people about how do we do this PR thing. Especially in the first EP came out. We didn't. So we've got someone doing PR for us this time around. But first time around, I did it myself and it was just trying to work out the best way. And I see quite a few bands now and again just spamming people with listen to this and listen to this and listen to this.

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Now and again, I put up a, you know, we've got stuff for sale or we've got a new album, we've got a new song, but I don't link people in. I don't sort of DM people with the stuff of the band or anything like that. So I just try and make it, which I don't know if it's as effective, but it's certainly, I feel better about doing it that way. So, and it's been fairly successful. We'll see what happens, I suppose, in the next, in the next month or so when the album finally sort of comes out. But I'm happy with the way we've approached it. I've not pissed anyone off. So, you know.

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Hey, Tom, I don't think I've asked anybody, any other interviewee, this question yet. When the album does come out next month, do you have any expectations? Do you care if it sells one copy? Because I hope from anybody who listens to this, they go out and they buy the album. But do you have any expectations? Do you have any, would it kind of hurt your feelings if it doesn't sell 10 copies, 20 copies? Or do you just like to make the music?

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and you don't care if anybody buys it?

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I think that's a good question.

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So financially, it doesn't really matter.

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We're not going to, even if a good few people buy it, we're not going to make a lot of money.

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But to put, I suppose, your heart and soul in something like that and put it out there and, you know, we think it's pretty good.

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And people have told us it's pretty good and we might be blowing smoke up our ass a lot of the time.

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But we think it's all right if no one's particularly interested in it.

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Yeah, it will be disappointing, but we won't be like, right, that's it. This is a waste of time. Yeah, it's time to hang them up, boys. Yeah, fuck it. We enjoy making it. We enjoy playing shows. We've loved recording it. We'll do it again. We'll carry on doing it. So yes and no, I suppose. Sorry to interrupt you there, Tom. This is why I kind of, where I almost have a problem sometimes with Bandcamp is that you guys, like, it just came to me. You know how good your album is? It is almost like Brewer Will. He would brew a beer for you guys.

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It's that good of an album. He would. He would prove an all-father beer. But the problem I have with Bandcamp is I'm fearful your album will get lost in the mix of so many other albums out there. I mean, to be fair, over there, we've got a label doing our stuff for us. So I'm kind of hoping that we get lifted a bit above the Bandcamp stuff because Static Tension are doing the release over there.

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Over here, we've got no one in the UK, none of the labels in the UK seem to be particularly interested. So we're doing it ourselves over there. But absolutely, and I have to tell the guys over and over again, you know, when they're like, oh, you know, why are we not getting any more interest? I'm like, there's about a million bands out there and half of those are really fucking good bands. And it's so easy now to make good music and get it up on the internet and get people involved. There's a lot of stuff going on. And, you know, you try not to shout. You don't want to shout with shouting too loud and make yourself look arseholes to try and get noticed.

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But at the same time, you want to do that. It's a balance. You're right. It may be. We'll see what happens. I've said over and over again, we're learning the band. We're learning lessons this time around. It's the first time that the majority of us have done this sort of thing. We'll see what happens this time. We'll learn some lessons, see what happens next time. That's why we've got a PR guy involved as well, Curtis, our PR guy, because we don't want it necessarily just lost on band camp.

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And since also you have your band, and you guys can talk about this, with Bandcamp, you're able to release your album, and you're able to put it out there to the world and say, hey, here's our album. Go out and get it. But then how do you dance that fine line where trying to, hey, you can self-release it, but how do you then promote it and not come off like a, you know, trying to whore the fucking band out when really all you're trying to do is be like, hey, guys, check us out. Yeah, it's tough, dude, because there's, you know, like when we play shows here, there's always

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a big conversation with the other two guys in the band to try to get as many friends as you can at the show. And I hate that. I'm always like, you know what? I don't want to play for people who are coming just as a favor to us. I want to play for people. And that's what I consider whoring out is just kind of trying to pack a place just based on people who are your friends, which is nice of them and everything. So I don't know, dude. I don't know. I think Tom really hit on it. There's just so much out there, you know? And you can get lost in band camp easy. Easy. Records have like a two-week show

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life these days it seems to me well even even that and tom i don't see you guys on on spotify now do you have any plans to upload the album to spotify and all the other streaming sites i think uh i think our ep is uh i think the first one is on spotify because we put it up there um yeah i think we probably need to we haven't really thought about that and we we probably should so um because i probably is i don't use spotify i i use bank camp or buy cds you know you guys

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I just answered my own question. I just followed you guys now.

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There you go. So yeah, we are up there.

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I fucking love it when we're more informed than a member of a band about their band.

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I'm not joking. I like that feather in our cap.

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But the other thing you're right about the two-week shelf life is what I keep in my mind that we can't, as a band camp band, if you want, you can't just write an album and then three years later write another one.

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you kind of got to keep doing stuff. So whether that's releasing a video or whether that's doing a single or a seven inch or a split or an EP. You might try to get on a good podcast if you get the chance. Once every couple of months or something. You just mentioned it. Since Bandcamp is churning out so much stuff, you almost got to kind of find a way to keep yourself relevant and stay in the mix.

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If someone's bought your album, you kind of want them in maybe a few months' time to still be interested in you because by then they probably bought, I don't know, another 200 albums or something like that, which they might not have listened to. George. Yeah, George. What? But it's just trying to keep momentum going with the band, especially if you're not touring and stuff like that. I think if you're a touring band and you can play, if you're playing all year and stuff like that, that's another way to get interested.

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But we struggle with that because of jobs and family and stuff. So it's about just keeping other things going. And that's what I would like to get by the end of this year, at least another single or something out there. And then next year, go back and start recording for a new record. Well, I can see it's starting to get dark there. And I want to let people know that I enjoy. Tom is going to be joining us for the full episode.

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Before we get into the meat of the podcast, I wanted to ask Tom one thing. People can't obviously see this, but you are in your daughter's room. And you say it's your teenage daughter. And I say that because it's covered. A lot of kids' rooms are top to bottom in band pictures of band members and all this type of stuff. Who introduced your daughter to music? Because I have a two-year-old and I want my daughter to be a metal guy.

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But I don't want to try and introduce it to her so much as to where she revolts and she's daddy's little gangster rap girl. So we got, um, so actually she's not a teenager anymore. She's 21. So I'm just used to calling her the teenager so much. Um, but, uh, she, so, uh, we didn't, but she, um, so she's class, she technically stepped my stepdaughter. Um, so when I came to, um, live with them,

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All of my other half had already got a listen to stuff at the time. But then she did revolt. She went away and was into all this awful stuff for a good few years. And then slowly she came back into started going, oh, Tom, can I borrow this? Or can I have a listen to that? And so that was done. You know, she did that herself. But then we've got two smaller ones. We've got Max, who's 11, and Molly, who's 9. Max likes ACDC at the moment, but then likes X,

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and not a lot else at the moment. So do I at 33. Yeah, yeah. So I keep playing to him stuff. He likes Warhammer as well. Yes, so do I. Yes. So I keep playing him like Three Inches of Blood and stuff like that. He's not quite getting it yet. I've got my Three Inches of Blood brand new Three Inches of Blood t-shirt on. Oh my god, Tom, I love you. You know how much I love Three Inches of Blood. Jay, let's leave them alone. Yes!

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Yeah, well, they don't like anything at the moment, so I'm just taking it easy.

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They're surrounded by it all day, every day. It's always get... They got up and Anthrax was playing, so if they like it, they like it. If they don't, they don't. I think there's not a lot I can do about it at the end of the day.

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It's okay. If he doesn't like the new Anthrax, I understand.

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Oh, that was kind of a foreshadowing.

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Indeed.

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So today is the 34th anniversary of the death of Randy Rhodes. I can't believe it's been 34 years already. I mean, I wasn't an Aussie fan prior to his death, but I was several years afterward. And I just, I don't know. I mean, Jay, can you believe it? It's been so long? No, no, I can't. I was just actually going to try to look up and see how old he was when he died. 25. So there you go. He would be 50 math now. 59.

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Can you imagine a 59-year-old Randy Rhoades? You know, I remember really, really, really well the girl who introduced me to Randy Rhoades. She lived in a trailer. I lived in Missouri. And I swear to God, it was on the first day that I ever smoked pot with somebody when I was a kid. I mean, it's rooted in my memories, man. I remember it really well. And I guess time flies. I don't know. What would he be doing now? I mean, other than... Remember, remember, didn't Randy make it clear before his death that he was going to pop?

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He was going to go back to school for classical music. That's why Sharon Osbourne killed him. I have a multiple choice question for you. If Randy Rhodes were alive today, he would be A, playing heavy metal, B, playing classical, C, desperately clawing at the lid of his coffin. Sorry about that, boys. He very publicly said, this is it for me. I'm going to go just be a classical music guy.

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He'd be the Segovia of today. He would be the Segovia. I mean, it's a shame. It's a shame. But he's on two of the greater records that ever came out in the 80s. Yeah. Anyway. What? What don't you know? No, I was just saying. Go ahead. You can argue it against it. No, no, no. I hear it. I mean, do those records not resonate? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Is Randy one of those deaths where his death made him bigger than what he was? Certainly. Well, okay, fair enough. But people were gaga over him.

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when he was alive. I mean, he was on the cover of every guitar magazine. He really was a new kind of... No, but I'm asking this from a guitarist standpoint. Not now, but I mean, at the time, there really wasn't anybody doing what he was doing. He was the first one that really brought classical scales in to soloing in metal. And the guitar magazines ate that up. I mean, compare him to like Richie Blackmore, you know, like Smoke on the Water riffs and stuff like that. You know, he's considered amazing.

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But if he put that out today, people would be like, yeah, okay, whatever. Now, speaking of Ozzy, and he has the, of course, Black Sabbath tag to him, I have to ask Tom, do your Sabbath and Judas Priest and Iron Maiden, do a lot of people over there realize kind of, do they look at those bands as like their national treasures now still? To some extent. But, so whenever you get like a,

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the BBC do like a heavy metal documentary. That's what they'll do. And then they'll say in 1984, Brash happened and then it all ended. We've never seen anything since. So they are to some extent. And then like when something happens to one of them, they'll probably be considered a national treasure. But you know, you don't get Iron Man playing all day on the radio over here. You don't get Black Sabbath or Judas Priest or anything like that. So you do them like the rock ones, but they're not considered like a...

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I wouldn't say they're considered a particularly national treasure outside of the metal community or the rock community and maybe the music industry as well. But, you know. Was there anything over there? Did they recognize Lemmy when he passed away? Yeah, but, you know, all the people that said, oh, you know, Lemmy was fantastic, but they don't talk about heavy metal or anything any other time of the day. So they're a national treasure for lots of people, but it only seems to be, you know, Ace of Spades, everyone knows,

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Tastes of Spades over here. So yeah, they do. But frankly, it sounds like the same as here. Yeah. Yeah. You know, kind of like somehow managed to be somewhat visible in the mainstream, but not to where anybody seems to really give a shit until frankly they die. Yeah. Yeah. Have any of you guys heard this new band called The Chemists? No, but I like the little sub quote here on the, on the, I have a feeling I don't want to hear them. No, you don't. Yeah. It says The Chemists, Lincoln Park garbage reheated. I thought new metal was dead.

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George. They've been going about four or five years. I quite like them. Pardon me while I extract my foot. This intonation of George was I thought, oh God, here it comes. He's going to launch. Honestly, I don't get it. Maybe this is good. Maybe you can explain it to me because honestly it sounds like rap rock. First off, I have to ask this. Before Tom gives his answer, Tom said,

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George they've been around for a couple years. How did this just hit your radar to make the script now George? Because they're finally getting some attention over here. I don't even know where they're from. Are they English? Yeah yeah yeah. Okay. That's in Brighton. So my well the explanation is if you like the prodigy and stuff the prodigy used to do which I did because most people over here did at the time then that's why I like them but if you don't like what the prodigy did that sort of stuff then

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You wouldn't like them. I don't think they sound anything like Linkin Park. They're far too exciting. I only listened to one song. I read about them in Terrorizer or Metal Hammer. I was reading one of those last week. Metal Hammer. I was like, alright. It said that they were bringing a danceable kind of metal. I was like, alright. Let me go listen to it because I fucking listen to everything. I gotta tell you guys, George, let's do it because George can dance. Booyah.

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And I put on their video and I swear that, you know, maybe it's just this song, but it was like, it was like Linkin Park. It was like, okay, this singer is going to sing and we're kind of gritty. And then this singer is going to rap. And I was just like, you probably saw the one with the geezers from the hacktivist who are like a rap metal band. So, but it's, it's better than Linkin Park. But I don't know. Again, I'm talking about stuff that you don't usually talk about.

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this podcast we've had metalcore now we're on to fucking dance music

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hey you brought up such confidence i love that yeah yeah i know i'm motherfucker hey don't don't uh

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don't hold back just because i talk trash about something you know everybody's got their own opinion

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yeah how boring would it be this is great i like this this little aspect you've added to our pod

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i've stood in a field with about 80 000 people and watched the prodigy absolutely tear it apart

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Prodigy's not bad. And this is one of the first bands that have, I think, come out and added that sort of dance music with. But, I mean, it's not heavy, you know, it's got heavy riffs in it. George, next time screen the guests before they come on. Well, next time listen to more than one song. I mean, I used to listen to a band called Chem Lab that was, this was like back in the mid to late 90s during like the Nine Inch Nails phase.

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of industrial metal. And Chem Lab, somebody described it as a cross between metal and the Pet Shop Boys. Wow. And it was very poppy, dancey kind of, but heavy. And I really dug it at the time. You know, completely out of context from a musical conversation, I really like this sentence. I stood in a field with 80,000 people and watched the Prodigy rip it apart. It's like the beginning of a fucking fantasy novel, dude.

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I suppose the other end of that is last year it's Ananathrakh. Is that how you pronounce it? Yes. Funny thing about that, when we saw them at Death Fest last year, there was probably 10 minutes of conversation among us in the Nine Circles and a couple other guys. Like, how do you say their name? Ananathrakh. It's actually from Excalibur, isn't it? Excalibur, yeah. I thought it was Lord of the Rings, but I'm probably wrong. But their last album had loads of

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It's got loads of electronics and heavy stuff on it. So I suppose that's the other end of the... When I went to see them, they had some big beats going while they were playing some of their stuff. And I suppose that's the other extreme end of that sort of thing. But I like them. They don't sound like Linkin Park, but I can understand what people wouldn't like them at the same time. All right, moving on then. Now, seeing Prodigy live is everybody's sitting there the whole time saying, Firestarter! They're playing it now!

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Slap my bitch up. Yeah, it's coming now. I would imagine those 80,000, 60,000 might have done, but they had some, they were like a rave band before, before they started getting guitars and stuff in it, but they had some great stuff there as well, but, and then afterwards, they've done another, I think one album after that that was really, really good, and a couple of duff ones, but at the time, pretty much everyone was, yeah, you know, where's Firestarter coming on? It's coming on, it's coming on. I think when you're in ecstasy, you don't care what's next, Buke.

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Also, you have to translate Duff. Duff is bad, right? You said they played a couple Duff ones? Sorry, yeah. A couple of crap albums. Okay, gotcha. Cool. No, no, no. That's cool. I like this. You're on the Metal Heads podcast. You have to speak Buke right now. Well, hold on. Let me go get my English to English dictionary here. Okay. So, as usual, I was buying a bunch of music on Bandcamp, and I thought it was kind of funny because shortly after purchasing

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an album, I got an email from Season of Mist, and it was an out-of-office email from some guy named Gordon. Normally, you buy something on Bandcamp and they send you a receipt, a thanks for buying the album. I got an out-of-office message from Gordon from Season of Mist. From Gordon Freeman from Half-Life? I don't have any idea, but I just thought it was kind of funny. I'm betting that Gordon might have gotten in a little trouble for that one. Yeah, there's going to be a Gordon what-the-fuck on Monday, you know what I mean? Yeah.

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So the next thing I wanted to talk about, perhaps you've heard it on here a couple times now, but when we have Will on, he talks about how when he's trying to listen to the podcast, he has trouble listening to it in the car because his kids are always in the car and we swear a lot. And so I thought it would be really cool to do the Metal Heads podcast Guide to Swearing for Will's Kids. Basically just swear a lot, like this is the word shit. It means doo-doo.

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Well, we could also start to do a warning in advance, George. We could say earmuffs if he wants before we start throwing out the curse words. That would probably double the size of the episode. That would. So I just wanted to recognize Will and his plight. Do you want a couple of English swear words? Yes, please. That's what I was going to ask you. Please. What are your favorite English swear words? Maybe they'll be like code so that his kids won't know what they mean.

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I mean it's probably two which which don't get used over there which is wanker which is one of them it doesn't get used often but I love it when I hear a British guy say it and you know what just yeah just just let it roll off their tongue you're just like ah those wankers what's the other the other one is bollocks bollocks oh sure yeah that's awesome wow that brought silence where like bollocks we sat in the fucking just I was sitting there thinking about the sex pistols I was like never mind the bollocks anytime George sends me an album I'm

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like bollocks.

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Those are the dogs' bollocks.

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There's an urban legend around why they're allowed to use bollocks on the front cover,

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and it didn't get censored.

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Richard Branson financed the lawyers to go and look for the origins of the word bollocks

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so they could prove that it wasn't an obscene word.

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And I think they found out that it originates from being old English priests were called bollocks.

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And that's why they're allowed to use bollocks on the front of that album. Good to know. Little tidbit. Also interesting to hear Richard Branson was mixed up in that. Yeah, well, he's like virgin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure he's signed. I might be wrong now getting my punk rock history wrong, but I'm pretty sure he was involved with the distribution. I might be wrong about that. How about that? There's no fact checkers here. Let's just say it's true. If we say it, it's true.

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What does he do on the record? Or is that because of the... It's like a triangle, I think. Nice. So my wife pointed this out to me the other day. I think it was like a magazine article or something. But this lady started something called Rage Yoga. And I was like, whatever, it's yoga. I don't want to read about this. But I read the article anyway. And it was kind of funny because the title of the

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is just like any other yoga class except with more obscenities and beer.

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Wow.

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And basically this woman had just gotten out of a crappy relationship and was very bitter.

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And she was a yoga teacher.

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And so she started doing these yoga classes.

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Well, actually, she didn't do the classes.

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She started doing her own yoga.

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And she would just be doing yoga and yelling out obscenities and stuff.

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And she told some people on Facebook about it, some friends, and they were like, oh, that's really great. You should work that into one of your classes. And so then they have these really informal classes where they do yoga, play rock music, drink beer, and they do it at a bar and, like, swear. And instead of concluding each class with namaste, everyone sits on their mats and they do a big group, fuck yeah!

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Yeah! There you go. Or cilantro might be nice too. Well, that's not, yeah, it's not, you'll get all that is called going to a bar. Yeah. But, uh, I don't know. It just seemed kind of metal. So I thought I'd mention it. Why don't we get into some news? These first, what, three, four, uh, items here are going to have Bukes salivating.

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I know. Opeth is coming to play Radio City Music Hall on October 1st. And as I hear it, Buke and John are going. Yes, sir. I'm going. You know, at first, when I looked at tickets for this, they were like $150 fucking dollars for a ticket. No shit. Yes. Those are the orchestra tickets. I have money, but to spend $150 for Opeth, it's a little rough. It's a little tough.

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So I told John, I'm like, John, as much as I want to go, I don't think I can pay that. And then John messaged me yesterday and he's like, dude, every other ticket is like 50 bucks. So John grabbed a couple of tickets and I'm going. Nice. That says a lot about Opeth that they have gone from, this says a lot about the arc of their career. They've gone from having something you might call at their shows a pit and now they have a fucking orchestra pit. Jesus, dude.

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Is there any different... So OPEF has done these, I guess, special shows and all these special venues around the world. And this is their American date. So, Tom, if you're feeling left out, they're also playing a winter show at Wembley. Which is the biggest place they've ever played. They cast their big picture up against the side of the stadium a couple of weeks ago. And everyone was like, oh, OPEF must be playing there then. So I don't really know a lot about OPEF.

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But lots of people seem to be excited about it. Sorry, Duke. Duke doesn't know you anymore. Get this guy off the pod. Get this guy off the pod. It is a testament. You come into my pod and you don't know him. You come here on the day of my daughter's wedding. Leave and leave your three inches of blood shirt behind. Leave your three inches. You come here with your... You know what? He came here wearing three inches of blood.

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knowing how much I love them. And then he bans, get out of my pie. I didn't flash him. I said, I don't really know him. He's called a wolf in sheep's clothing there, Buke. Yep. You know, but this is a testament to how huge these guys have really gotten. Seriously, Wembley's a big place. Am I wrong about that, Tom? Yeah, no, it's not many. Usually, if people are playing there, it's a big, big band. So, sort of headliner bands at festivals. So, it's a big show. That speaks volumes.

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And there was this little article that I was about to skip over, but it was about Opeth, so I just sort of glanced through it, and I noticed a passage. They're talking to the guitar player, Frederick, and he said that they're actually getting ready to start recording a new album in May with a planned release date of sometime in the fall. And I was like, I wonder if that's actually true. I mean, that's the only place I've seen it. I haven't heard any other, like, blabbermouth posts or anything else I've

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So either he misspoke or he's not Michael, so nobody listened. I don't know. If he's saying it... It must be true. It must be true. He's in the band. It just seems like an awful early for them to have a new album. Yeah, maybe they're trying to, I don't know, change up. I can't see them wanting to change up. But again, we know what Opeth is now. Opeth is my favorite band.

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In all honesty, you know it's hard for me to get excited for new Opeth now. Is that a toy? Or is that actually going on outside? If you hear anything that sounds like September 11th is happening again, that's my daughter playing with her new toys in the background. So I apologize. We've got even more Opeth news for you. The Opeth 25th anniversary commemorative Book of Opeth is getting ready to release on April 15th. Opeth, Opeth, Opeth. I know. Now, on one hand, I'm like, oh, I bet Buke is excited about that.

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But then I was like, wait, I said the word book. Yeah, you said book and you know Buke doesn't read. I bet there's a lot of pictures in there for you. Can we please finalize for once and for all, it's not that Buke doesn't read, it's that Buke can't read. Can we just please? Both are very true. The American education system fails again. Again. All right. I can read tweets. Yeah, there you go. 155 characters at a time. You know, George was telling me,

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I saw The Martian a couple weeks back and I loved it. And George was like, oh, the book is so much better. You should read it. And I'm thinking to myself, yeah, ain't gonna happen. I was telling him about all the parts they cut out of the movie that were in the book and he was like, oh, wow. But yeah, that'll always be a mystery to him, I suppose. Moving on, some of the big news that around here in the last week or so is that Brian Johnson is unable to continue singing for ACDC because his doctor says,

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that if he does he may go completely deaf now it's been sort of an unraveling almost scandal since then because uh jim brewer was on i think it was it was on xm saying that brian johnson didn't actually say that he wanted to stop touring he said it was recommended that he stopped touring but he thought maybe he could work something out but apparently the band just immediately broke contact with him and started looking for a replacement singer uh and so people are

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and that Brian's been kicked to the curb unceremoniously. Now, if you're going to sing backup for Brian Johnson, okay? Yeah. Isn't that a real special voice you have to have? Well, you think of the big voices in metal. Even if Rob Halford could not come in and sing ACDC. Well, our next news story is relevant. Yeah, because the rumor on XM Radio is that Rob Halford is, in fact, stepping in to finish out the tour. Exactly.

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And that's where I was going with this. How weird is that? It'd be strange. I mean, he's done that before for other people. Sabbath. Yeah, for Sabbath. Yeah, he filled in for like Sabbath on a show in California or something. You can hear it too, by the way. I'd go to see it just for the novelty of seeing him front the band and play those songs. But I read that that may also not be true, that they may be looking for a permanent singer instead. Okay, think of like you have pain,

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Rob Halford, and you have... Give me an ACDC song. There are two different vocal stylings. Yeah, to be sure. And what's funny is apparently the singer for Crocus said he would accept an offer to front ACDC. And that's funny because the dude from Crocus sounds just like Brian Johnson. Kind of an ACDC ripoff in a way, even though I do like a few of their songs. I thought that was interesting that somebody brought that up.

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It's over, man, as far as I'm concerned. I mean, you can't, not at this point, not at this point, this many years into this band that's held together for so long. It's just whatever it's going to be, it's going to be, I think, it's going to be silly, you know? Yeah. And anyway, Brian can't really sing anymore anyway, so. I mean, as far as I was concerned, ACDC was dead a little while ago. The last record, which he actually sounded kind of more like himself than he had in a long time, because he's got this wheeze, you know, that he does not. It's just not at all like it was back in the day, you know? But they should have quit when Malcolm had to stop.

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What's that? That was good. That was good. I used to sing for that. What's that song? Melania! Now you sound like the Dr. Rockter. I like cocaine. Going back there, speaking of Jim Brewer, that guy does an amazing ACDC. It's amazing. You should go on YouTube if you've never seen it, George or anybody. Look up his ACDC hokey pokey. It is awesome.

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It's not canny. It's bizarre. Moving on, Esan just released another new song called Pressure from his forthcoming album. I gotta say, it sounds pretty damn good to me. I don't know if anybody else listened to it, but I am excited for this release. I did, and this is the second one we've had access to. Yeah, it's gonna be a good record. Do you like Emperor Esan? Do you like any black metal, Tom? I struggle with it. I struggle with it. I've been, like, actually, I didn't know how to pronounce

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that, Eshan, I would phrase it as Eshan or something like that. So I like, the closest I get to like in black metal is like Anam Thrak or something like that. But I like some of the, I like other genres of music that have blackened elements, so like goat whore and stuff like that, like those guys. But straight up black metal, I'm not a massive fan of. Al, our guitarist is, but yeah, not really. Fair enough. I always listen to stuff, see what it sounds like.

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Yeah. Nice pull with the Goat Whore, though. One of my favorite bands, actually. Yeah. Was it Behemoth released that really good album last year or the year before? Yeah. I like that. That was really good. So, you know, I'm cheap. If anything, it's really good. I'll listen to it no matter what it is. But yeah, not a massive black metal fan. Fair enough. The new Anthrax album, For All Kings, came in at number nine on the Billboard last week. Number nine. Number nine. Number nine. I was kind of surprised that it was actually

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is so low given how many albums sold. Me too. I mean, because as we all know, 12 gets you into the top 10 now. Yeah, well, they had like 20 to 30,000, which is, you know. Yeah, I was a little surprised too, but good for them. At least they're in there. And then I wonder where it is this week. I mean, stuff falls off so fast now. Yeah. So a couple of forthcoming albums. The new self-titled Flotsam and Jetsam album is set to be released on May 20th. I didn't even know they were working on an album, but I am looking forward to hearing that. I'm a big Flotsam fan.

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Lots of actually good talk around this record, George. Really? Yeah. People are saying it's like this really heavy possible return to, not return to form, but I wouldn't say they were getting proggy in their later years, but it just, from what I heard, I can't remember, an interview with a guitar player or something a while back, and he was like, they were just kind of putting their backs into this one. Good, good. I hope it's good. I will definitely be picking it up. Also coming out on May 20th, Catatonia is releasing their new album, The Fall of Hearts. I've already pre-ordered the vinyl for that one. There you go.

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After that, we've got Dark Funeral getting ready to release their new album on June 3rd called Where Shadows Forever Rain. I'm definitely looking forward to that one. Okay, cool. I felt like maybe some of us were giving up on them, but we'll see what happens. I don't know. They put out a new song, just like a single, like a year or two ago, and it was really good. So I was kind of excited to hear more, but then, you know, nothing happened. Right on. And then, of course, the news we've, at least I, have been waiting for for, like, practically a year.

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now.

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The new Throssenblatt album is finally imminent.

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They put up a teaser on Facebook the other day saying that the new album,

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Metathonia, will be out in June, no specific date, and then it'll be out on vinyl in the summer.

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So we'll see.

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You can start to breathe easy now, George.

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Yeah, I was like, what's the matter?

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Why aren't they releasing this album?

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Because, I mean, we had him on last July.

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And it was done.

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And it was done, or almost done.

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He said they had a couple of things left to finish on it. I don't remember what it was, but it was like one thing, like vocals or something. I'll have to go back and listen to that again. But in any case, you're right. That was a while ago, dude. Yeah, so can't wait. Maybe we'll get Joel back on again. Yeah, let's do. I couldn't believe this next one when I read it. I mean, I could, but it just fucking pisses me off. Rotting Christ is going to play in South Africa under a different name because of religious protesters. They're actually going to change their name just to play in South Africa. Are they changing it to Not Rotting Christ?

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I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I remember, I like to tell the story of when they got kicked off the tour in Greece, where they're from, because of Dave Mustaine not liking the band name. I mean, granted, it is probably an unfortunate band name if you are trying to go into parts of the world that are very religious. However, fuck you, you know? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, whatever, but I hope they choose something kind of funny. I mean, it'll be interesting to hear what they choose. It's a strange world we live in. Indeed.

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I heard that Max and Igor Cavalera are going to use the original Roots tour props on a 20th anniversary tour. Are you talking to us? Because you're muted. It's me. Sorry, Tom was laughing too, just like I was. It's like, where do you have those things? You have them in your closet? It's like, yes, finally we can use these toys. I saw them on the Roots tour, so that's kind of cool.

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I saw the last ever Sepertura show with Max at Britson Academy.

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Nice.

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I think it must have been the Roots tour.

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And they made the Sepertura live CDs under a pale gray skies, that show.

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If you haven't listened to that, it's fucking brilliant.

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But I'm just trying to remember what props they had for it.

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And apart from a load of big fucking drums, I can't really remember what they had.

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I love that.

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You're right.

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That's a really good point.

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What were the props? Well, they had the giant backdrop of the album cover. I know that. Oh, okay. They couldn't refabricate that. No, of course not. I don't know what all that means. I saw them on the first OzFest tour before it was actually what it turned into. It was just Ozzy and a couple bands playing. It was Sepultura and Danzig and somebody else I don't remember. But it was just a handful of bands. That's kind of cool. I'd like to see that. Yeah, sure.

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This next item isn't exactly metal, it's about Pearl Jam, but they're giving away earplugs on their upcoming tour to educate concert goers on the dangers of hearing loss.

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a good thing to do because me personally, I've got horrible hearing now. I've destroyed my ears with heavy metal over the years. I've got tinnitus, so I've got a constant loud ringing in my ears. My hearing is beyond that, just not as good as it used to be. I really like to encourage people to use earplugs at shows. Jay and Tom, George, we have to ask them. Jay, Tom, you guys playing live, you guys do anything to protect your hearing?

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I didn't pick up on that, that was brilliant. Fuck it up, come on, Jay. I'm sorry. That's so good, man. I'm like, well, let me repeat that for you, Tom. I wear earplugs when all the other bands play, but I take them out when we play, just because. And I wear them to shows. I actually have some nice ones that were made for musicians that our bass player gave me, Sergei.

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I mean they're not terribly expensive or anything but they're just like

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they're hard to describe but they sort of have

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several like plunger like looking things

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it looks like a little Christmas tree that you stick in your ear

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but in any case I wear them you know

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and I think I still have pretty good hearing

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and can I also just say where the fuck was

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Pearl Jam when Brian Johnson needed them

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no doubt

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yeah but you know what the other thing is though

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maybe it's just me saying this

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but does anybody else feel

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and I am the type of guy

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you know my personality

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I don't give a fuck about anything

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But I feel a little self-conscious and I felt it at the Lamb of God show. When I'm like, hey, look at me. The earplugs are in and I'm standing here listening. And nobody else around me has them in. That's because you're smart. It's probably one of the few times I'm going to tell you that. But... Hold on, we eat you, Tom. I'm not smart. I've never worn earplugs ever. And now I've been, you know, because I'm around loud music more and more.

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because of the band, I need to start doing it. But I've tried to, we had a couple of practices where I've tried to put them in, try to wear them. It just fucks me up because all I can hear is me and I can't hear anything else. Yeah. I sound like this. Oh, let's. All I could hear was like my inner voice. So yeah. Well, I couldn't hear the voice. That's why like you get those in-ear monitors because I mean, I don't know this for a fact, but looking at them,

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They cover up the whole hole of the, you know, they go in the ear. You would think that would, aside from giving you audio of the other people in the band, would also kind of block out a lot of the, you know, the harmful noise. Yeah, that's exactly what those do. But, uh, I'll get moaned at by my band because when they play mixes, I'm like, yeah, that sounds cool. And they're like, what the fuck? I can hear middle, but nothing else really. So I've got shitty hearing, but you know, I need something about it. Now, Tom, like a lot of the bands we have here, how has you guys practiced

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I've seen a couple bands who've joined us now, like the guys from Yesterday's Saints or Jay, their practice space, my closet is bigger than that. And these guys turn the volume to 11 in their practice space. Go ahead. Sorry, Tom. I was going to say we've got about five different places we practice in, and they vary from size from closet size to quite big. But we've actually learned to turn the fuck

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because we actually can hear what's going on better when we turn it down a bit. You've got to sort of balance it up with the drums but we're used to just like right how fucking loud can we get it and it wasn't working so now actually we've learned that we've grown up a little bit and say right when we're practicing let's have it at a level we can deal with. We've actually we haven't gotten to that phase yet unfortunately and there are literally other bands in our complex our practice complex who have asked us what our schedule is so that so they won't be there when we are.

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Like other bands are practicing and they see you guys roll in. They're like, that's it. We're not a joke. Literally true. There's a band that plays next to us. It's kind of like a old school. They play a lot of Jimi Hendrix and stuff like that. And they're like, they literally came in and said to us one time, when are you guys here? Cause they didn't want to be there anymore when we were. Cause we were fucking up their sound. But let me ask you one quick thing before we go on to the next news story, Tom and Jay, what do you guys like to hear? And I've always amazed

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What do you guys like to hear through your monitors on the live show?

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I want to hear what Tom thinks

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Because the difference Tom doesn't play while Jay you actually play

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I like to hear me and a bit of everything but mostly the guitars

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So the bits basically so I can hear what I sound like but for the guitar point of view so I can enjoy what's being played

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Because if I'm just hearing anything else it sounds weird if I can hear what what I want, you know

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what the song should sound like. I can get excited when a breakdown kicks in or when a slow bit kicks in. If it's heavy, I can hear that and I can enjoy it at the same time. If I'm hearing St. Weird, I'll struggle a bit because I'm not entirely sure then what the crowd's hearing or the one person watching us is hearing. But that's what I want to hear. The music, basically, but me as well. You over-sing if you can't hear yourself and then you blow your voice out. So it's almost kind of like chasing that dragon.

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Yeah, it has everything to do with heroin. Yeah. Yeah, I can play a show and be, my voice can be absolutely fine afterwards. I can talk like this if I hear myself. If I can't, then I'll, you know, once I just couldn't talk afterwards. It was the first show we played, I completely blew my voice trying to be heard and fucked it up completely. There you go, yeah. So recently, it was announced that Greg Feidelman would be the new producer on the new Metallica album. Apparently he was the engineer on Death Magnetic.

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I guess that means things are getting serious for this new album. Well, the first question, even though you've already answered it, the most important question is who the fuck's Greg Feidelman. But they, you know. I also heard, I heard the same story later on after I wrote this down on XM. I think it was on Liquid Metal. And they said that he produced a Slipknot album. I'm not sure which one. Oh. Oh. Yeah. Anyway, moving on. Jay, did you listen to the two minute video from Hail of Bullets? See.

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of them doing their song Swoop of the Falcon with replacement singer David Ingram. It passes. Yeah. Yeah, it sounded pretty good to me. I'm excited to see him. Yeah. The first show with David singing will be the Maryland Death Fest show that we are going to in May. And the first time I've ever seen them. But I mean, I will say this. It's not such a sharp left or right turn or anything that people are going to be like, you know, fucking angry. I don't think it. So yeah, it's going to be cool. And he sounded good. I thought you I take it. You wouldn't listen to it. You said. Yeah. Yeah. I liked it too.

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I also liked the new Skeleton Witch song, Well of Despair, with new singer Adam Clemens. Did anybody else listen to that? I did. You know the interesting thing about these guys is they were one of those bands that were so long, they were up in the air. You're like, are they still going to keep up what they have? And it's nice to see that they, without losing anything, they actually got a little better. And they're a good example of a band that just doesn't fucking stop right now.

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I mean, they just, it's record tour, record tour, record tour. They're like goat horror. And there's another band that I'm trying to think of that we've talked about. These guys just never fucking stop. So good for them. Yeah, you've got it. Battlecross. There it is, yeah. You mentioned that to me once that they never stop. Battlecross is like never off the fucking road. Yeah. And Skeleton Witch too. It's like they're on every fucking tour, you know. Speaking of which, you know, I wanted to go to the Abbott show because they're on that tour. And I thought it was in April. And it was like three days ago.

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I saw somebody posting some pictures from it on Facebook and I was like, wait a minute. So I dropped that ball. Yeah, I got tickets to mine. They're out here in the 20s. I quickly wanted to mention that Hail of Bullets is probably who I'm most excited for seeing live at Death Fest. Right on. Way up on my list too, Buick. Destroyer 666 has climbed fast. Yeah, they have too for me also. Yeah, that new record is just so good. So I'm really excited about that. Has anybody watched the new video for the Amon of Marth song? I know Buick hasn't.

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The song's called At Dawn's First Light, and just like the first song, First Kill, it fucking crushes. I didn't watch it yet. Have you heard it? I have not. Well then, I'm on my own. In that case, I'll talk about it more later, because we have some more stuff to talk about for that further down the list. What about the Slayer video? They just released a new video for the song You Against You. Crickets? I haven't. I've been busy. I haven't. Yeah, the new video.

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It actually looks like a movie or something

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And at the beginning

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Some guy comes in this room

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And there's this dude laying on the floor

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With like a hundred knives stuck into him

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And it says like

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One week prior to the prison riot

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So I guess it's supposed to be related to the

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Repentless video

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Oh, okay

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I haven't watched it yet, but I will

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Actually, that'll be something on my list for this afternoon

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Alright, and what about the Abbott video

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For Winterbane?

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I have not seen that also

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No, excuse me, I've watched it

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I read a great description of it though which was

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I won't do it justice but they said

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if you think every Abath video

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should have you know castles, snow, blah blah blah

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and it said well then you won't be disappointed my friend

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yeah yeah it's cool

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nothing super special

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just kind of cool now before I get into

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this next one I'm going to have to check

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with Tom because I keep stuffing my feet

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in my mouth are you at all familiar

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with the band The Raven Age?

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no okay good I can trash them

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So there's sort of this ongoing thing with the Children of Iron Maiden. And this new band called The Raven Age, featuring George Harris, Steve Harris's son, they just released a video for the song Angel in Disgrace. And I don't know. I mean, I've heard worse. Like the stuff that Bruce Dickinson's kid did was definitely worse than this. But this wasn't all that good either. I mean, I wouldn't call it, I don't know. I mean, it's kind of just a sort of a traditional heavy metal.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah. Like, I mean, seriously, you might be fucking Jimmy fucking Hendrix, but if your dad was John Hendrix and everybody thought he was the greatest, you might as well just fucking, you know. You're going to be climbing an uphill battle the whole way. Yep. All right, why don't we get into new releases? This first one, I've only heard like one song off the new album yet, but it was not bad.

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Black Shape of Nexus and their new album Carrier. Anybody ever heard of these guys? No, you mentioned them, I think, to me the other day, but I don't know anything about them. Yeah, it was just kind of a sludgy doom kind of thing. I'll have to listen to more of it before I can give a true opinion on it. Cool. This next one I put on here for John, this is a power metal band Circus Maximus and their new album Havoc. I believe they're playing at Prog Power this fall, so I guess I'll be seeing them. I should probably give this a listen, but not really that familiar with them.

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I think they're one of those bands that's at Prague Power every fucking year, you know? Yeah. This next one though, oh my fucking god, the new Amanomarth, Yamsviking, is fucking killer. It's great. I was able to, I got the promo the other day and listened to the whole thing front to back like three times and it is just badass. I think my favorite song right now is the one called Raise Your Horns, which is like this, it's a drinking song. It's basically like a tribute to their fallen kind

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and they're going to raise your horns and drink to the dead and all this. And his voice is so deep. It is just ridiculous. I'm like, I got to wonder if he's affecting it somehow because it is just ridiculously deep. So if you have not checked out the new Amanomarth album, it will be available by the time this posts. I highly, highly, highly recommend picking it up. Yeah, but you weren't even a fan of their best album until I told you about it.

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I don't even want to hear it. Yeah, I did have to go back and check some of the albums out before that I sort of overlooked in the middle years. Which one's that? With Odin on our side. With Odin on our side. Yes. Tom, you a fan of these guys? I've got, what's the, is it the albums, Twilight of the Thunder Gods? Yes. I've got that one. I always really like the idea of them, but then I listen to them and they never quite deliver what I'm expecting, but I like

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that one. I'm looking forward to that new one because everyone's saying that Raise Your Horns, whatever it's called, is so good. I'm kind of looking forward to listening to that. Yeah, it's good. It's a good record. Yeah, I was waiting until we get to this on the podcast. I was wanting to know if anybody can explain why Amon has hit such popularity when bands doing the same thing haven't. Yeah, I wonder too, George, I'd love to hear your theory if you got one. With no due offense to that. With nothing. Yeah, with no offense.

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I think they've just been doing it a long time. This is their 10th album. That's part of it. And you know they've just I don't know better promotion maybe you know some bands people just hear about them. I think they're very accessible. They are. They're very like you can listen to any of their albums. My first album that I listened to was Against the World. They're just they're very easy to get into. The music on the new album is very melodic. You could easily

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out the harsh vocals and throw in a power metal singer and it would work.

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Yeah, it'd be a power metal record, really.

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But I think George really hits on that. I think the accessible thing is huge.

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Yeah, Versus the World was my first. I'm sorry. Versus.

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But I do think if you have 10 records out, you're right. At this point in time, that's kind of like, that kind of puts you into mild legend status in today's metal world a little bit.

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And if they've been sort of, at least consistently liked.

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Yeah.

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Because they are. They're big now, man.

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Yeah, they just keep getting bigger. And they play big places here when they come. Yeah. So there's also a song called A Dream That Cannot Be, and he does a duet with Doro, and it is fucking amazing. Her voice, after all these years, is still pretty incredible. And alongside the stuff that they do, it just really worked. So make sure to check this out. Next album, this one's coming out this forthcoming week. This is right now tied with Flesh God Apocalypse for my album of the year. All right.

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This is

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holy shit. I've listened to it twice since yesterday

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and it's just one of those albums that doesn't really fit in a category. Technically they've been labeled as a black metal band

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but as I was mentioning to Buke earlier, if I had to describe this album I would say

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Tool doing a black metal album with cam pipes on vocals.

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It is a unique sound.

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I mean, there's a lot of really good, I don't want to quite say proggy guitar work, but the songs are intricate. George, so when you described that, I went, oh, oh, oh? Exactly. And then the vocals are in the realm of cam pipes in that they're kind of high and screechy in a three inches of blood sort of way, which the new singer, and I'm completely blanking on his name, Charlie,

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Charlie Fells maybe replaced the old singer Phil McSorley who turned out to be quite the douchebag made a bunch of like racist and comments or whatever like a year or so ago and so he got booted from the band and let me tell you this new guy I believe his name is Charlie he fucking kills it he's the vocals are so much clearer but they're still you know harsh and screechy and and badass and you know I know I get excited about a lot of albums but

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But this is definitely one that I am going to be holding on to through to the end of the year. Cool. That gives it a little stamp of approval. I'll go chase it down. So apparently there's a new Metal Church album as well titled Roman Numeral 11. And normally I don't even care when there's a new Metal Church album because it's not David Wayne. However, this album sees the return of a previous singer. I think his name is Mike Howe. Mike Howe is it? I think it's Mike Howe.

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He was the guy that initially replaced David Wayne in Metal Church. And I can't remember the name, the Human Factor. No, the Human Factor was one, but there was one before that, Blessing in Disguise. And I actually kind of liked that album. So I'd listened to a new song just to give him, you know, fair shakes, but it didn't really do much for me. That's who it is, though. It is my car. Yeah. Next up is the new Rotten Sound album, Abused to Suffer. I have listened to this one because it only takes like 15 minutes.

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Grindcore kind of stuff. And yeah, it's kind of cool. I liked it. Has anybody else heard it? Have not heard. Have nay heard. Not me. Boy, this is a one-man show today. I've put it on the band camp because someone said it's had like nails, so I'm going to check it out. Right on. I know this next one Buke is liking. This is, I think, Neutrino turned him onto it. This is Wormed and their new album, Cry Sue, perhaps? Yes. Go for it, Buke. In previous releases from them,

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was a lot of the death vocals that were so guttural, I didn't enjoy it. This one, they kind of cleared up a little bit, but the technical aspect of this is just awesome. I've really enjoyed this album so far. And they're playing at Deathfest, aren't they? They are. And if you enjoy brutal death metal, definitely check this album out. Take my advice, check this out. It's not for the faint of heart, but

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Check it out. Alright. Why don't we get into our follow-up episode of Convincing Buke? Convincing! Convincing Buke! Convincing! Convincing Buke is really fucking hard! Last time on Convincing Buke, Jay and I tried to convince Buke that he should like the new Anthrax album For All Kings. We made our argument. He made his. Hopefully he's gone back and listened to it a couple more times. I think I know what he's going to say.

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But go on, man. Give it to us. The short answer to this is I have not. I have not had any urge to go back and listen to it. So you failed. You failed. I have failed. And you know what? I am so turned off to this album, I'm still not going to go back and listen to it. That's your loss, buddy. My wife just left for the day, so I may spin it today while she's gone with my daughter. But really, this album is boring. Not at all. But anyway. You haven't done your homework yet, though, so I say,

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You remain unconvinced. But I don't think we're giving up on this yet. Yeah, it's not our fault you didn't do your homework. Sorry, teacher. I haven't had an urge to do the fucking homework. Nothing new there, right? All right, let's move on to our top three.

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to us that we do the top three albums that we missed last year. At first, I thought this was going to be kind of easy. But the more I went through my collection, I was like, you know, I'm pretty thorough. If you hadn't, like, you know, realized that. If you haven't realized that by now, this guy doesn't miss shit. So it was hard for me, but I did come up with three. I did too, but it is one of the other reasons it was hard. And thank you for the suggestion. Who was it that suggested? You guys remember? A bunch of people did. A bunch of people, okay.

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But the more I thought about it was, this is a list of saying, these are the top three things I don't know about. So I mean, it's like, how the fuck? Well, I looked at it as things that I liked after I heard them, but couldn't put them on the list because it was 2016. Or things that Buke was right about. And let's just give him props. Buke, my number one is the thing that Buke was right about. Wow! Oh my god, let's fucking mark this episode the greatest ever.

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Okay, Tom, do you have a, did you do three for us? Yeah, I took it as stuff I'm listening to now that I didn't listen to last year when they came out. That's perfect. Yep, exactly. Tom, what is your number three album you missed last year? Vole, oh shit, what's it called? Deeper Than Sky? Yeah. Yes. Oh man, that's a great album. It's a crazy fucking album, but yeah, I'm really into, I'm listening to that more and more. I like the way that the first, the first track's like, you know, it's actually sort of stuff,

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The second one kicks off in some punky hardcore style and then there's a piano on it and there's a fucking flute. Yeah, it's great. I love it. And you know the interesting thing about that album? It's totally different than what those members are doing in their normal bands. With the exception, maybe slightly. To me, it's more like what John Cobbett does in his time with Hammers of Misorchun. More than in the other guys, but still. More than job, yeah. But it is still foreign territory for all of them. Yep, yep. My number three is something I didn't know.

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just after the year closed. So this is much like Tom's. And it's a doom band called Church without the U. So it's C-H-R-C-H. This may be one of the ones that came up on one of your weekly, this is what I'm listening to, George. But they have a record called Unanswered Hymns that I'm really into right now. I think Will was really into that one. It's a record I didn't have in 2015. It came out in 2015. And it made it onto a couple other people's lists. And it's got a super cool doom band, super slow.

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It's kind of more on the electric wizard side of Dune than some other Dune bands, but it's good stuff. Cool. Buke, what do you got? My number three, I haven't heard anybody mention this yet, and I discovered it a couple months back right after I had finished my list. This is a blackened thrash band. This is a band by the name of Frosthelm. Oh, yeah. And their album, The Endless Winter. Cool. It's in my wheelhouse with stuff I'm listening to right now. And this album, Hook,

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I couldn't listen to it enough. When I found the guys from Blackfast, this was right around the time that I found Frosthelm. So this is an awesome album. The Endless Winter. Nice. George, yours. I'm going to do an honorable mention, because if I don't mention this, I know it'll make Bukes sad. But I didn't put this in my list because, and as Bukes and I discussed, it wasn't metal. Yeah, it's not metal.

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Although, to be honest, my number three isn't hardly metal either, but it's probably more metal. But anyway, I wanted to mention Royal Thunder and Crooked Doors. This melts my heart. I never really got into them before, and then sometime early in January, I think it was. Us driving in the car going to a show. Yeah, I was like, yeah, this is not so bad. And so I've explored it more and gotten into it, and I dig it. It's a catchy album. That melts my heart. Yeah.

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Number 2. I still need to do my 3. Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry, go ahead. So for my 3, which is also questionably not metal, I've got Publicist UK and Forgive Yourself. Okay. It's kind of heavy in places, so it's almost metal, but I figure it gets the nod because it's got people from Revocation and Municipal Waste in the band, so there you go. And they're on the same label as we are, so that's kind of cool. Oh, there you go. Oh, look at that. They were already waste.

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George is sucking up. Look at that. I want to give an honorable mention before we move on to Tom for his number two. I have recently refound these guys, and I've been hooked on these guys nonstop. But they're released last year from Misery Index, pulling out the nails. Brutal, fast death metal album. Great album that I overlooked, and I've overlooked the band as a whole the past couple years. Yeah, see, that's what happened to me with the Monom.

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It's like you dig a band and then

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you know you just sort of move away

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and like you just miss a couple albums

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and then you come back and you're like oh

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Alright Tom, what's your number two?

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So not the chemists

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but chemists

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Oh yeah, yeah, Absolution

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This is one that Jay

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opened our eyes to

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I saw it on

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I can't remember who

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I think it was, but I think George was going to say Will did

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and it was funny because Will and I

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It was mine actually

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Oh, was it? Okay. That's a good record, though. That's a great record. I love that. It's really, really fucking heavy. You've got lots of melodic stuff in it. Yeah, great album. Well, six tracks, so a great record. Yeah, that's amazing. My number two is a record that really made it onto several lists that I saw last year. And I had tried it earlier in the year, but it lasted like 30 seconds. I was like, eh, I'm just not up for this right now. And then I went back and put it in sometime earlier this year. It's Macabre Omen with a record called Gods of War.

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I believe they're Greek. Kind of a Bathory-esque, like later era Bathory type style. And it's great. It's really good. I ended up listening to this record a bunch of times. And I wish I had really thought about mentioning it last year. I need to go back and listen to that too. I remember I listened to it briefly and probably the same as you. I was like, I'm just not into this right now. But it did get some decent press saying that it was good. So I should check that out again too. Buke, number two. I'm going to butcher this one.

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No. I'm going to butcher my number two and number one. These are both from our buddy John. This album, both these albums could flip-flop one and two, but this is Grod or Gowrod, however you say them. Yeah. A maze of recycled creeds. Yeah. Amazing album. Isn't one creed enough? Do we need to recycle more of them? I know. I know. I'm just going to say this album, I'm on the same page as John, but that's my number two. Yeah, they're pretty cool. All right.

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My number two is a band that I recommended to Buke, and I know he said he bought it. I don't know if he never heard back as to whether he actually liked it. This is Fifth to Infinity and Omnipotent Transdimensional Soulfire. It's got one of the guys that used to be an Opeth. Is it the drummer? I believe so. Yes, it is. Did you ever listen to it? I can't remember right now. All right, fair enough. Well, it's cool, so there you go. He's been involved a couple okay-ish things since he left.

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rose to the top but martin lopez is all right what's your number one there tom uh curse of the north

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oh yeah self-titled curse of the north um i listened to one of the tracks last year and kept meaning to buy it and i keep forgetting uh and i got it a few weeks ago and it uh probably a couple months ago it's just straight up traditional really good heavy metal really fucking catchy i think it's got an x three inches of blood guy in it as well which always helps um but yeah brilliant album yeah tom can i ask you what's your favorite three inches of blood album uh

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If you don't say Advance and Vanquish, you're out of the pot. It's either Advance and Vanquish or Fire Up the Blades or the last one. I think for consistency-wise, it's probably Advance and Vanquish, but I don't know. I love all three of those albums so much. That's why I love Tom. My favorite song is 4,000 Torches, I think. That's why I love that album. My most recent favorite song is Look Out. That was the other one.

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Three Inches of Blood fucking podcast. But those two songs together just make that album so fucking immense. It's brilliant. But yeah. Well, Tom, this Curse of the North is new to me. I'm adding it to my Spotify right now. Yeah, check it out. It's good. Jay, what's your number one? This is all about you. You wouldn't shut the fuck up about these guys last year. And I was surprised to hear George mention it now. But Royal Thunder, that record is fucking great. Yes! Oh! Dude, I never got around to it. And you mentioned it probably in four or

01:47:23.660 --> 01:47:53.600
podcast last year. I never put it on. I put it on two months ago. It's exciting. Well written. That chick can sing. Yeah. I mean it's it's it's fucking great dude. And it is almost metal. I mean almost it's a hard rock. But it's a little atmospheric and creepy in places too. Like I don't know how to explain it but yeah. I love it. You know with so much like I mentioned earlier we're gonna talk about the metal core stuff. With so much in metal today missing that catchy element. This is it.

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top to bottom. And her voice is powerful. The recording is perfect. Such an amazing album. The best thing I can say about the record is it would have been on my list, Buke, last year. That means a lot. Yeah, it's a great album. It was so strong with you for so long, I should have tried it earlier. But I did not. I did not. The Force was strong with this one. That's right. But I stand corrected. I should have listened to my buddy. Thanks, my friend. My number one, taking a nod again from John.

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I'm going to butcher this name, but Amiensus, Amiensus, Amiensus,

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Amiensus, and their album Ascension, right, this is Buke top to bottom.

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John, if albums like this come along again, send them to me directly, or if anybody hearing this hears albums like this, send them to me.

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This is a little proggy at times. It's very Opeth-like, and that's what I like, of course.

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So this is my, it was almost one of those things on first listen. I was cursing it because I couldn't put it on my list. You know, I'm the one that told John about it. Are you serious? I am. He thanked me. Not to be like, you know, Mr., you know, I'm so badass or anything, but just putting it out there. But I am. Just taking credit where I can. All right, my number one is, I'm going to butcher this, is the band Batushka and their album,

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It's like a Polish doom band. Does it have a question mark at the end like that? Always. Yeah. Exactly. It's very interesting. So if you haven't heard that, check it out. Polish doom. Yeah. I don't even know how, can't even describe it. It's just different. So, all right. What are we listening to?

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What a crazy show

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What a crazy show

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- Tom, what you listen to these days? - How many do you want? - Lay it on us. - You're not gonna do more than me. - Yeah, you're not gonna do more than George, so lay it out buddy. - Apart from the chemists who we've already talked about. So the new Anthrax album. - And you like it? - I do, I don't like it as much as worship music, and I kinda know what Bukes said about bits of it, but I'm quite enjoying it at the moment. - But Tom, okay Tom, do you agree with me that worship music start to bottom was just like,

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Fist Pumping, like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, it's catchy as hell. And then this new album, it's so slowed down that you're like, this is not Anthrax. But worship music isn't Anthrax either, by that standard. But worship music is what Anthrax is now. No, actually, For All Kings is what Anthrax is now, but I'm splitting hairs. Duke just introduced a new segment called Convincing Tom.

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Yeah, it's where you try to convince somebody not to like a record. I agree that worship music is fist-pumping, that fucking brilliant all the way through. Totally agree with that. This isn't quite the same as that, but it's still as catchy as fucking really enjoyable at the moment, so I'm really liking it. Yep, perfect. The other thing was Slaves BC, like a doomy sort of black and hardcore band from New York, maybe. That's really cool. Their album's called All Is Dust and I Am Nothing.

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It's a great name for a fucking album that is

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But that's really cool

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There's a UK band called Mastiff

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And their album called Rank

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And that's like really slowed down

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Do you remember that Black Tongue album

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You were going on about that you really liked

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I didn't get that wrong did I

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You liked that Black Tongue album yeah

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He did

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But this is like a really stripped down

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Type approach to that

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Like really slow, hardcore but fucking angry

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So that's cool

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And then last of all the new Conan album, Revengeance. I haven't heard it yet. Heaviest band I've ever seen live. They're just so heavy. It's unbelievable. Just completely hypnotic. But that new album is really cool. Yeah, it is. I haven't heard it yet. And George has talked about it a couple of times. So it's on my list. And Buke likes it too. It's got a few different paces than the first. It's not just constant. It actually speeds up and slows down a bit through some of the bits and pieces. So yeah, really good album. Cool. Excellent.

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I am still spinning for all kings

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the anthrax record is really good

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I'm on a marth as George noted kind of showed up as a

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promo recently and I finally just got it for myself

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yesterday the day before been rolling that

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and I'm also just completely fucking stuck

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on the graves that see record yeah

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I'm like really it's fucking great

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yeah the graves that see record is just it's so heavy

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and it's just so good these guys are seen as this kind of

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Like legends that have never made this a full record. And here they come out with this record that I honestly think is as good a debut, doom, full-length record you're ever going to hear. I must have spun this thing ten times already. It's one of those records that I play it, and I go back and I just start it over at track one again. Excellent. And that's my list. What are you listening to, Butte? Okay. I am listening to a, I believe, Finnish death metal band. Their new album. I don't know if it's out now because we have a promo copy of it. I think it may have released. Gloria Morty? I don't know if it's out or not.

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Yeah, I don't know if it's out or not yet, but brutal finished death metal album. Kind of a, I don't want to say symphonic, but slightly melodic in the music as well, but definitely very brutal. It is very brutal. Another classic death metal, I think a Swedish death metal band, but I could be wrong, but it has that type of sound to it. The band's name is Necrot. Okay, don't know that. I am not, I received a promo for it.

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The Labyrinth. And the band is, again, Necrot. N-E-C-R-O-T. It's a classic death metal band that has a Swedish death metal sound to it. But these guys are, surprisingly enough, from Oakland. A three-piece band. So I've been listening to that. But my number one what I've been listening to... Sorry, I want to mention one more. I'm all over the place here because I have so much good stuff I've been listening to. It's one that George sent me, and I believe he mentioned,

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before, but the Antichrist Imperium. Yeah. George, you're right. This is Buke all the way, buddy. This is the guys from that band. You may know them as Ackercock, unless you're British, in which case they're Ackercocker. But George, you were right when you mentioned them to me. Amazing stuff there. That's totally Buke. And if you side with Buke and want to listen to, check that album out. But what I'm hooked on, and I have been hooked on for a couple weeks now, won that new

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Neutrino sent me, and this is black metal, but I wouldn't say old school black metal, almost the type that I like, like new black metal. This is Nordvel. I don't know how to pronounce this again, but N-O-R-D-J-E-V-E-L. Yep. Their self-total release, and I've been listening to the hell out of that album. That's a good album. Yeah, so give that a listen. All right. I've got a medium-sized list this week, more so than

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last time, but fewer than in the past. First up is Black Cobra and Imperium Simulacra. Sort of... I think it's pronounced Simulacra. Yeah, however. Simulacra. Phonetically. Yeah, I don't know. But it's heavy, it's kind of sludgy. I don't really know much about them, so I'll move on. Next up, as I've already waxed eternally, the new Cobalt album, Slow Forever. Fucking love it. You should definitely

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check this out. Next we've got a band from, a doom band from, I believe it's the Massachusetts area, called Dreaded Silence and their album The Last Vestige of Hope. It's sort of a traditional doom, like clean vocals. I think there might, I seem to recall like the occasional harsh vocals in there, but mostly clean. It's a cool album. And then there's another one called Droids Attack and their album Sci-Fi or Die. I didn't get too far into this one before I got pulled away, but it's sort of a,

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Stoner Doom kind of thing, but with good production. Then we've got the new album from Gotess, G-O-A-T-E-S-S. Their album, Purgatory Under New Management. This is, I believe, the second album from these guys. Their first album was self-titled. I picked this up originally because it was the original singer from Count Raven. It's Doom with the singer sounds kind of slightly like Ozzy, but like good Ozzy. Next up, I have to

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with Jay. Graves at Sea, The Curse That Is, killer phenomenal album. It's not out yet, but we've got the promo, so we've been loving on it. Do you remember the, I think April, let's release date on that, so people can, you can hear two tracks off of it, not necessarily in the same place. I think one's on Spotify and one's on SoundCloud, and it gives you a good cross-section of what the record's like. I want to say it's April 1st is when it's coming out. It is released on April 1st. April 1st. Yep. Next up is a Virginia band that I heard about

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through Will. This is the band Helgamite and their new album, Hypnagogia. Definitely heavy doom. Yeah, it's heavy sludgy doom. It's really cool. I like it a lot. And I've been talking to Will about the possibility of maybe getting them on the show one of these days. Next up, I've been listening to the unreleased as yet, but the promo for the new Mantar album, Ode to the Flame. This is also a really good album. It's interesting.

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The music's pretty slow most of the time and kind of doomy. The vocals are really harsh, but there's a lot of really cool riff work and stuff going on for this album, so I'm enjoying that quite a bit. Next up is the one that Buk just mentioned that Neutrino told me about as well. It's either Nordjavel or Nordjavel. Not quite sure. Self-titled album, black metal, good stuff. Next up, I was listening to this band based on the recommendation of the

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So I'm guessing they're a Seattle band. They're called Skeletor. And I picked up their album King of Fear. This is really sort of power metal almost, I guess. But like not like power metal. I mean, he does sing high, but not like a melodic thing. It's more of a heavy power metal. And it's really cool. You can check it out on Bandcamp. So this next one is one I think that Buke would like. And I think that, you know, we should try and get at least one of these guys in the studio here.

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is the band Ordnance and their album The Ides of March. Yeah, George, I just looked this up. This is 15 fucking tracks. Yeah. Man. And the drummer is Alex Rudinger, who is in Conquering Dystopia with Alex Webster from Cannibal Corpse. He was in The Faceless. He was in Threat Signal. He played live with Revocation. Yeah, live, a local Maryland guy. Yeah, it just blows my mind that this guy actually lives in our town. I'm like, and we haven't had him in? I think we need to have him in.

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And I think I've mentioned it to you before we needed to get him in with his last project. Yeah. Yeah. The Conquering Dystopia. Yep. So yeah, we need to work on that. Next up is one that I don't know how to pronounce, but I'm going to give it my best shot. This is the, it's a side project for Nocturno Culto from Dark Throne. This is Sark, S-A-R-K-E, and their new album, Bogue Fod, B-O-G-E-F-O-D. I'm sure I butchered that. I don't know how to speak pretty.

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But this is a really cool album. I remember they have at least two other albums. They're really good. If you like anything that Nocturno Culto does, I'm sure you'll be impressed. Second to last one now is another one I can't pronounce. This is a Norwegian band. Not quite a super group. It's two guys from two different bands. It is Ivar from Enslaved and the guy from Vardruna.

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Skuksja. Skuksja. I don't know, but that's funny because I listened to this this week too. It's good. And the album's called A Piece for Mind and Mirror. And it mixes the two styles. You know, enslaved, obviously, black metal. And Vardruna is like classic Norwegian instrumentation. You know, it's like horns and drums and just like cool ass shit. They did music for the show with Vikings.

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And so it's kind of a mix of both these things and it's really cool. I took a stab at this and I gotta tell you George I didn't even know the guy from Enslaved was in there so that's interesting. Yep. Cool. And finally the last thing I have we got the promo for the new Tombs EP All Empires Fail. If you like Tombs I don't think you'll be disappointed other than the fact that this EP is kind of short. Well it's an EP so by definition it's shorter. So you know my complaint with EPs is that it just gets me worked up and then stopped.

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So I'm hoping that next we'll see a full-length album from them, if not this year, then as soon as possible. Well, he spoke about that when we talked to him, and I'm inclined to say that this was... were you going to comment on that? Because maybe you remember what he said. I was going to comment on something different, but go ahead, Jay. Well, it was just merely that I thought this was kind of like we were getting... that they were en route to a new record, and along the line they came across these four or five or six songs they wanted to record. I think that was it, yes. Yeah. So I do think there's something forthcoming, is all George.

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I hope so.

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And I think in a fairly shortish order.

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Well, I wanted to say what this is.

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I don't want to say dancing a fine line.

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But you know me.

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I am unabashed in my thoughts.

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You don't pull any punches.

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I don't know if this was Tombs trying something different.

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But this is not Savage Gold.

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Actually, it sounds pretty close to Savage Gold to me.

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I did a side by side.

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And I played some Savage Gold. And I'm like, it sounds like stuff that could have been recorded in the same session to me. George, you know what it sounds like to me? If you take the vocals out of Savage Gold, that's what you have here. I'm intrigued. You guys have kind of piqued my interest because I was not smart enough to listen to this yet. So I will do so. But it's interesting to hear your takes on it. This is a band that, Toombs is probably the band that I have become a fan of the most the past couple years.

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as a result of the podcast. Again, credit to George that Savage Gold is an amazing album. This album, it sounds... This is not the right description for it because it's not. It sounds industrial, but that's not even the right description for it. Well, they do have that keyboard guy along now. I know, but it seems like they're incorporating that element a lot. I couldn't even tell there was any keyboard on there, honestly. I was kind of like, what's he doing? Okay. Again, I don't think an EP

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is a full reflection of the band. No, no. That's why, you know, if EPs are good, then great, but I tend to stick to full albums just because I like something a little longer. So inappropriate. Except me. Some of us can't get much longer. Indeed. Why don't we move on to our classic albums?

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I love this album. It's got the best sludgy

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power ballad ever on it, which is

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Nothing. So, yeah, great album.

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And if Kirk ever

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tragically has to stop singing,

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Tom, you can slide right in there for him.

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Tell you what,

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if I could sing like he does on that Nothing

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track, then I'll be a happy man.

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Tom, I have to ask you,

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since Kirk also does play

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guitar, do you play any instruments

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or are you just merely simply

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vocals? So Max, my son, who's 11

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today, said to me, Dad,

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is the reason you sing in a band is because you can't play any instruments. And I was like, yep, that's why. So basically, your son was saying, Dad, why do you suck so much? Yeah, that's basically what he's saying. That's a great classic. I think I have it on vinyl myself. Jay, what do you think? Not metal in the traditional sense, but one of my probably top 20 favorite records of all time. It's 20 years old this year. Marilyn Manson, Antichrist Superstar.

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that album is so good i think i have it on vinyl george yeah i do too yes yeah i uh i found it

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eventually i got the double picture disc down at record exchange yeah it's a great album it's a hard find on vinyl oh very yeah and george i think you have a picture disc yeah i got i mean i've only seen it for like around 100 bucks and i found the double picture disc for 50 so i jumped on it even though i'm not a big fan of like picture discs that don't have covers it's just like in a sleeve but i was like hey for 50 bucks that's

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cheaper than $100.

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They need to re-release that.

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Yeah.

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Luke.

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Can I go back for a second to our top three?

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Can I add a 1-8?

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He was looking so disappointed in himself.

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I was.

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Death Haven, New Bermuda.

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All right.

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That came out this year, though, didn't it?

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That came out 2015.

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Yeah, it was 2015.

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It was your joke number one, dude.

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Oh, yeah, duh.

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Sorry.

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Old and forgetful.

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I have to add that.

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I love that album.

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I've come around completely on those guys.

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But my classic and it wasn't until I started doing research for this album, I realized how hated this album is. Hated. Like the reviews are like 40%. Sacred Reich, The American Way. I like those guys. Yeah. They haven't been around for a long time, but. I heard things such as said as genre ruining. This brought America down a notch. So. But I love these.

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I love this album. Sacred Reich, The American Way. He always had an almost guar sound to his vocals. Well, and they have a little sense of humor too, Bukes. So, you know, I mean, not unlike guar. I like Sacred Reich. Yeah, so The American Way by Sacred Reich. Right on. My classic this week, in four days, we'll be celebrating its 40th anniversary, and that is Judas Priest's Sad Wings of Destiny. Wow, I almost went priest this week.

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That's not my favorite older Priest record, but it's a good one. George was there on launch day. I could have been. I could have been. But yeah, it just kind of blew my mind that it's not even their first album. It's their first good album. But this album is 40 years old. Hey, Tom, who is the bigger national treasure to the country? Ozzy, Halford, or Dickinson? That would be Bruce Dickinson, not me.

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I'd say Aussie's general, not because of his music, but because of that fucking TV show. Then probably Dickinson, because Maiden is still touring, and they're still, I think you guys talked about last week, they released new albums, they tour new albums, they play new songs. And then, sorry, Priest is a just about third, but not far off, I'd reckon.

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We didn't even mention it in the news. I don't know if you guys saw, but their plane actually was damaged on a runway. I think it was in South America, was it? Yeah. What happened with that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like some cable or something messed up one of the engines. I don't know. But a couple people were injured as a result of it. Bruce got all tipsy and went out driving it around and ran into something. He's like, come on, guys, I'll take you down to the bar or whatever.

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the street knocking off wings.

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It was being towed.

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And it got,

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and like the pin fell out and it ran into a heavy piece of equipment or something.

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Really fucked it up too.

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You probably saw the pictures,

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right?

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If they just parked it in the right place,

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you know,

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the first time it wouldn't have had to been towed.

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Well,

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that's why you got to tip the fucking valet.

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You can't be like,

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you can't be like,

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just put it wherever.

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Yup.

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Bye now.

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Bye now.

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Purchases!

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really cool independent label over here called Holy Raw that do sort of slow, slow, sludgy, stony stuff. I haven't actually listened to them before and everyone's going on so much about them that I listen to a track and really like it so I ordered the album. So that's on its way. I've got the Conan album in the car and just got the King is Blind CD. That's a good one too. So Steve, the lead singer, is a good Twitter friend of mine who's given me a lot of advice actually over the past around band stuff and vocal stuff.

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So that new album theirs is fucking just brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. It is. All right. Perfect. My list is brief. I picked up For All Kings and Buki at least be happy to know that I did not have worship music and I picked that up at the same time. I didn't have it on vinyl for some reason. But I got that for $14, dude. Wow. Isn't that weird? And it was a new unopened copy. Dude, that's what I got their new vinyl for and I got like the deluxe edition with the slip mat.

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Really? That was $14? Yeah, like $14 or $15. Which, by the way, is somewhat strangely on Megaforce Records. So Megaforce is handling part of the American release on this. And I also picked up Monster Magnet Super Judge, which I didn't have on vinyl. They've got all these 180-gram re-releases, and I'm slowly getting them. I'm getting down to the end, but that one I picked up yesterday. And that was it. It's got those three records. How many times a night do you think those guys hear Space Lord? About as many times as Lemmy heard Ace of Spades.

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Yeah, I think so, dude. I think so. Okay, Tom. Like it's normally done on this podcast, it's Buke Butcher Band time. This is Crucimentium. And their album, I'm even going to butcher this, Charno Passages. Yeah, that'll work. They released on vinyl. I got it right here. Cool. A nice, I love this shit. A nice, like, blue vinyl. Pretty. It was like 15 bucks or something.

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Limited to like 50 copies or something like that. Oh, nice. This is one of my favorite albums of last year. So that's all I have this week. George. First off, for those who don't follow George, George spent this week. Why do you torture yourself, George? Organizing your vinyl collection. Oh, yeah. Well, because I can't find anything if it's not in alphabetical order. And like half my collection, actually, it wasn't even half. It was like, I don't know. We'll just go with half.

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About half the collection was already organized alphabetically. So about 700 copies. And then the rest of it was just shoved into the shelves in whatever order. Which means half my collection I can't find. Because, you know, you can't really read the sleeves on the vinyl very well unless it's like a double album. And so finding anything is just like, you know, flipping through hundreds of albums if you want to find something. And I don't have that kind of patience. So I started, essentially, I took the floor of a room.

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and I laid them out and piled them A, B, C, all the way through Z and, you know, stacked them in their alphabetical order. And I'm still actually working on, now that I've got them sorted, integrating them into the already alphabetical collection. And, yeah, it's taken a while. I'm only up to C. So, yeah, that'll probably in the near future get finished. But anyway, my vinyl purchases this week,

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include the new Conan album, Revengeance. It's an awesome album. It is. The new Wolf Mother album, Victorious, which it's not all that metal. It's just more of a hard rock album. But the cover of the album is in that 3D where if you move it, it kind of moves. So that sold me. I also got the last Motorhead album, Bad Magic. This next one's for Will.

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And apparently for Tom. I also got the latest Clutch, Psychic Warfare. Brilliant fucking album. Yeah, you see Tom. Tom's just like, mm-hmm. Nod in the head. Yeah. Tom just gives his own head nod. Mm-hmm. And the beard. You know what I just realized? Having a beard makes your head nod approval that much more epic. He's just like, mm-hmm. It's like a fire danger with that. You just have to cross your arms and be like, motherfucker. Hell yeah. I also have an absolutely fucking huge melon head as well.

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So with the beard as well, it's sexy. It's epic. Yeah, yeah. I also got the Skuggsja album, a piece for Mind and Mirror on vinyl. Let me try that again. Skuggsja. Skuggsja. I don't know. It's hard. I don't think it's a J because it's Norwegian and which means the J is an H. A Q sound. I looked it up online and the Norwegian pronunciation was something like Skuggsja. But as any Norwegian

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I still can't say it. Next up, this one came all the way from Australia for me. I got the Roundtable, Dread Marches Under Bloodied Regalia. Great album. If you haven't checked that out, you can listen to a few songs from that. And an interview a few episodes ago was our first of the year. Second to last one, I got Power Mads, Absolute Power. I finally found that on vinyl. I was very surprised to get it for a decent price. And the final purchase,

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which isn't technically out until next week, but for some reason they shipped my pre-order. The new Cobalt, Slow Forever, showed up today. So there you go. Those are my vinyl purchases. How about Deep Tracks? I was thinking about this, but I was trying not to do a Three Inches of Blood song, but I'm going to do a Three Inches of Blood song. I'm going to go with Assassins of the Light, which is off the Fire Up the Blades album, number 10. For ages I didn't realize this track was on it.

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And then one day I think I put on shuffle. It starts with a beer can opening and then just gets better from then on. I was like, why the fuck haven't I heard this song before? And I had, but I just ignored it. But yeah, Assassins of the Light or Fire Up the Blaze, Three Inches of Blood, fucking brilliant. Right on. You can't see this, but Buke was nodding his head as well, and it was not nearly as epic without the beer. I was just going to say the same thing, Jordan. I shit you not. I was going to say, you know what? That was the correct deception. I have been fucking flying the flag of Three Inches of Blood,

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on this podcast. So to have them be our deep track, fuck yes. Hell yeah. Jay? I'm sticking with my theme of themes, which is to say I tend to try to relate it to my classic record or something else of late. And off of Antichrist Superstar, there's a song called Kinderfeld. It's kind of a deep track. I don't think there's a video for it or anything like that, but it's just this real spooky fucking song. Right on. Good stuff. From one of my favorite albums, I don't know if you would really call this a deep track, but some middle heads just out there.

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The Album kind of passes them by. Rainbow, Stargazer, the song Tarot Woman. Yeah. Cool. Awesome playing. Awesome top to bottom. I've said it before, Stargazer is my favorite song of all time. That's a great fucking record from start to finish. It really is. Those first two Rainbow records, this is as good as it gets right there. Excellent. So my deep track, I didn't intend this to be something that I'd already mentioned. I picked this as my deep track.

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And then the album showed up after that. So my track is Power Mad and the track Nice Dreams from Absolute Power. Very catchy, thrashy song. Cool. Back in the day. Back in the day. Back when music meant something. I was just saying. All right. Well, we're just about ready to wrap this show up. Before we go, I want to take a moment and thank Tom for coming on the show with us. I hope you had a good time. Have the fucking best.

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I really appreciate it.

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Yeah, Tom, like we told you, it's a long time coming, brother.

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It's been a blast.

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And Tom, I didn't really get a chance to tell you, I love your fucking EP, dude.

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And I'm looking forward to the new one.

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The tracks that I'm able to stream now are fucking killer.

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It was such a great joy to have you on, brother.

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Cheers, man.

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I really appreciate that.

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Yeah, like I said, it's been a good three fucking hours, but it's been a long three fucking hours.

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Before we go, why don't you tell people where they can find Allfather Online?

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So at Twitter you can get us at Allfather UK. If you go on Bandcamp and search Allfather UK as well and through Static Tensions recordings, we're through there and they're Bandcamp. If you go on Facebook and again, if you do Allfather UK, you should be able to fucking find us somewhere. Right on. All right. And before we go, we want to mention you can also find us on SoundCloud. You can find us on Facebook. On Twitter, I am Disciple OV Metal.

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And I'm at OPEFFAN, but Tom, you forgot to mention, where can people follow you? Yeah, I'd like to know. So that's at Butcher with two R's, 666. Makes me sound way more brutal than I am. And Jay's at CatatonicJay as well. You can also find us on Instagram, we're on YouTube, we're on Stitcher, and of course, wearemetalheads.com. And like I ask every week, tell a friend, please, if you listen, if you know somebody

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For somebody who likes metal, who has not checked out the podcast yet, tell a friend, please. Bring it in. Yeah. Tell your friends about me. Oh, they're welcome. Yep. All right. We'll talk to you next time.