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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, metal's my religion, and yeah, it's my dope. Standing in the thunder on stage in the pouring metal rain. What a feeling, baby, the lights are exploding.

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Hello and welcome to the Metalheads Podcast. My name is George.

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My name is Buke. My name is Jay. And here we are, episode 48. In a few minutes, we're going to play you the interview we just finished with Hyperion from Sweden. Got to tell you, this was a really fun interview. I think I can speak for all of us when I say that. And these guys were, you know, they were good guys. You know, it was really fun talking to them. Good guys and kind of a hot topic right now. So a bit of a scoop for us to have somebody with such a good, highly talked about record right now. Yeah, we were going to have somebody else on today, but

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Due to circumstances beyond our control, things had to be rescheduled. And at the last minute, Buke swooped in and picked up Hyperion for us. And that's, as you'll see, that's a great interview. And it's a great band with a great album, Seraphical Euphony. If you haven't heard that yet, you should check it out on Bandcamp. Every once in a while, that Buke earns his paycheck. Indeed. So why don't we just go ahead and play the interview now, and then we'll pick up after that.

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This week's me, John Van!

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This week's me, John Van!

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Listen to this now!

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Hello and welcome to the Metal Heads Podcast.

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We are joined today by a couple of the guys from the Swedish band Hyperion.

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Would you please introduce yourselves?

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My name is Erik Molnar, I am one of the three guitar players from Hyperion.

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And I'm Anders Petersen, the drummer.

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Excellent! Thank you for coming on the show today.

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Why don't you guys start us out by telling us a little bit about Hyperion, the history of the band up to this point and how you guys got together.

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Sure! The whole band basically started in 2007 with me and two older members on...

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We were a part of the band. I was the guitar player, which I still am, and there was a guy called Erik Torrell and another guy called August Benkson on bass. And quite shortly thereafter, we recruited Anders here, who is still with us, on drums. And then basically we recorded one demo and made a few shows live. And that period was basically musical for us. It was very inspired by early Inflames and early Mel

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and other influences like that. Then eventually, a lot of things happened basically, but in 2009, we basically got a very drastic turn of events in the band and everybody basically left except for me. So you're holding it down. Yeah, so in that time period, I teamed up with our current guitar player Mikael, which came in later on, and we started writing music,

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which eventually became a new type of sound that we were drawn towards, which was more like inspired by melodic black metal, atmospheric black metal and also death metal to some extent, but also keeping the melodic and epic atmosphere which we had since day one. And that resulted in 2010's Blood of the Ancients demo released. And well, since then much has happened, as you say, but the current state of the band right now is that we have released a full-length album,

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called Seraphical Euphony this year. And it's been pretty popular with the guys on this show. Yes. I don't know how much you guys look online. We don't have a lot of metal magazines over here. Not good ones anyway. I can assume maybe you guys have made it back home. But there's a lot of talk right now about your album. People are just loving it. You rarely see perfect review scores. But the couple I've seen have been like five out of five.

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100%. This is a pretty amazing debut album. Thank you. Guys, I have to ask you guys before, you mentioned it with the early In Flames influence, Eric. You guys coming from Sweden, when there are so many amazing influences that are just surrounding you, how did you land on In Flames or what was about In Flames that that was the band you said that

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you guys the most, maybe.

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Yeah, in the beginning, I basically was in flames.

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We weren't like a copycat band anymore, maybe, in the beginning.

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But, I mean, the first couple of in flames, I was like Horacle and Jester Race and Lunar's Train.

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I mean, it was just a special part of the good ones.

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Yeah, the good ones.

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Yeah, the good ones.

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Yeah, who knows what they're up to now, right?

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No, actually, that last album wasn't bad.

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I mean it was just something about the atmosphere and the perfect blend of brutality and melody which Inflames had in the beginning with the twin guitar harmony and the drum sound and everything. It was just perfect. It was a combination of everything that at least from my point of view music should be up to that point. But later on as you progress as a musician you naturally take in other influences as well. So yeah Inflames was Inflames in the beginning.

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I was more than the Swedish death scene. Like, Mobbid Angel, D-side, all those bands, they were like, greater influences on me when it comes to drumming and when it comes to being a musician in general than any other Swedish band. At that period, like in the beginning of Hyperion, around when I dropped, jumped in like in 2008, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. So, for me personally, it was like, I was more of a Florida death metalhead than anything else. I didn't really listen to anything else except for Florida death metalhead.

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And that was kind of cool because we didn't play like straightforward

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melodeth all the time and due to Anders' skill as a drummer early on, which, you know, he could do blast beats and very fast double kicks and so on, we tended to, you know, kind of incorporate more extreme influences in our music at a very early stage, which set the base, which set the foundation for us to continue and evolve and become more fast and heavy, I suppose.

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Andrews, I have to ask you, is there, is the early Florida death scene as a drummer, was that more attractive to you than the Swedish melodic sound that was starting in the 90s? Yeah, it definitely was. The Florida death scene has a lot more raw brutality, I guess, than the Swedish scene that I was a lot more attracted to than anything else at the time.

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Yeah, any of those guys from Florida, that scene really made me more as a drummer than the Swedish scene. And then there was that Polish band Decapitated.

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We just saw them live a month ago or so. Amazing.

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Yeah, the old drummer there died in 2006. He was a good teacher at some point when I was like 15 years old. And I copied all their songs and played all their songs.

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And I became a much better drummer because of it mostly because of Decapitated more than any other band but Morbid Angel was a big influence for me when it comes to drumming and I don't know when it comes to the Swedish death metal scene especially when it comes to the Gothenburg scene with Inflames and Dark Tranquility and all that they had a lot of melodies and melodic metal riffs but I like the more sound to have the melodies inside the riffs like Morbid Angel or D-side

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It's a lot of death metal riffs, but not a melody on top of it. You understand what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Believe it or not, Hyperion has a lot of influences from raw death metal, especially from the types of bands that Anders was speaking about, like Decapitate and Morbidanger. Those bands are, believe it or not, major influences to us. You can hear a bit of death metal as well. I was wondering about black metal stuff like Emperor or something, you know, with the Tremolo picking. Yeah, we have a lot of influences.

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of that, obviously, as well. It's just a big melting pot of everything we listen to. You know, Anders, it's interesting. Your connection is amazingly great, but I believe you just said Gothenburg, and you said Gothenburg, and so it's interesting to me that you pronounce it that way. Do you do that for our sake? No, in Sweden, we pronounce it Göteborg.

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You know, us metal people out here in the world all pronounce it Gothenburg. So you just go with it, I guess. I always thought it was Gothenburg. I don't know. Gothenburg, that's metal scene. Just go with it. I mean, it's become a whole thing of its own. So that word, I think, means the metal scene more than it does with that new pronunciation. You mentioned earlier on about how you guys have three guitar players. Did you start off with three guitar players? Was that the plan? How did that come about?

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How did you get your organic gurs? That's what I was going to say. It's just like Iron Maiden now. Yeah, but I am a huge, huge Iron Maiden fan. But I don't know if that was part of the equation. But basically, in the beginning, we've always had layers, layer upon layer upon layers of guitar harmonies in our music. And you know, in some songs, we have even five or six different guitar parts playing at the same time. So naturally, as our music evolved, and it became even more complex with

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more and more harmonies. It just felt very, very natural to include three guitar players in the band. And on top of that, you know, in the middle period where it was just like me and a guy called Mickey in the band, who was still in the band, it was basically us two in the band. And then he quit and moved to study in another city in Sweden. And then we got another guitar player called Effeguner. And then when Mickey came back from his studies, we were like, we can just play three guitar players. Why not? You know, our music demands it. So why not? It was just a...

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It was kind of planned, but not planned in a way. That's a very Yannick Gers outcome, actually. I got a proposal for you. I want you guys to come to America and go get Sulphur Aeon in Germany before you come and do a co-headlining tour. I think you guys would be great together. Do you know that band? Yeah, I know. I'm familiar with, yeah. Guys, does having three guitarists, I've wondered this with Maiden. Of course, Maiden's been doing this for decades now.

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in any problems that a band with maybe your normal number of guitarists wouldn't have? It's not a normal number, but it's typical. No, it's very typical over normal. I don't know if I would call it problems. Sometimes it can get a bit messy because we have many different songwriters in the band, so there can be many different chefs in one single dish, if you know what I mean. There's a lot of Swedish chefs in the pot.

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I have a melody.

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But it's like, that's kind of a problem, I guess.

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But it's not a problem in the end.

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Because we thrive on each other's opposition and kind of idea brainstorming.

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So I wouldn't call it a problem.

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But it can be a bit frustrating at times when everyone has 500 different ideas.

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Do you guys play live?

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Yeah, we play live.

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Not as often as we should.

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But we play live.

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Anders is laughing.

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It sounds like Anders wants to play more live or something.

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Well, we don't really play that often. It's like we play one show or two shows every year for the past six years or something. But we have focused a lot on the debut album, so that's basically why we haven't played that much live in this couple of years. We try to focus as much as possible on that.

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So the reason I asked if you played live was because, particularly in clubs and bars and things like that, the stage is kind of laid out for a two-guitar band. I went and saw a band called Beyond the Embrace a while back, and they were a three-guitar player band, and the stage was very crowded. They didn't seem to know where to put that third guitar player. I was wondering if you had that sort of issue. We played the stage several times, believe me. We played on a very, very small stage once here in Stockholm,

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I was standing in the back of our former guitar player. And when I was headbanging, I hit his guitar like four or five times in my head. That's a very usual problem that we have, yeah. That was probably the worst, the hottest gig ever. I had like a spotlight right on my back or something. It was sweaty as hell. Because there's no room! Hopefully you'll be playing on some bigger stages soon. Hopefully, yes.

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You guys had some of the festivals. Anders, it's it in the album. There's a lot of keyboard work. I've read online that you know, you're the keyboardist. Is that something you've picked up recently? Have you played, you know, since you were a child? No, no. The funny part is that right now I'm more of a classical musician than I am a metal drummer. I'm more I'm actually actually a classical pianist. And I played for

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for about five and a half years, I guess. Something like that. And I think I'm turning sixth this autumn, this fall or something. But yeah, it's not really I picked it up like when I was a child. I started playing drums when I was 12 years old. And then I started playing a lot more piano when I was like 16 or 17 years old. And then it has continued. I have an amazing teacher as well. An old woman professor from Poland.

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I'd like to do that too!

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Yeah, so that's why I have and I'm applying I already applied to a composer school in southern Sweden so hopefully I will enter I don't know yet I'm gonna ask them later they're gonna call me this these months so I really know but yeah hopefully I will learn more stuff about composing about symphony orchestration all that and apply to Hyperion more and yeah

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No, it seems... Sorry, Jay, I've got one quick thing to ask him about this. Of course. With keyboardists, it seems like we've seen a lot of bands incorporate more keyboards of the past decade or so. My favorite being pair of Opeth for the short time that he was in the group. Do you have a favorite keyboardist in metal? You know, like the guy from Children of Bodom comes right to mind for me also. There are a lot of good guys when it comes to keyboard.

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I don't really know his name, I don't really listen to Shiro Bodom that much. I know Alexa Leiko a little bit but... and I know I saw a couple of their records but I'm not a huge fan of Shiro Bodom in that way, I like some of their stuff but otherwise... I don't have any favorites within the metal scene. I like Joran Rudes from Dream Theater, that guy is pretty fucking good but otherwise than that I don't have any influences or

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anything that can be drawn from the metal scene when it comes to piano or keyboards or anything.

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Somebody who's classically trained, again, I love the keyboard use that you guys incorporate.

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Do you hear bands using it now?

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Do you hear some of them using it and you're like, oh, come on, guys.

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Why are you trying to jam the keyboards in there?

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It doesn't really work.

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I don't know.

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We don't really compare ourselves too much to other bands in that sense. But what I can say about the keyboard stuff that we have in the band is quite an interesting process. Because basically what happens is, you know, obviously Anders is a huge contributor to the keyboard and orchestrations and piano parts of Hyperion. But we've all basically, or many of us, at least the guitar players, have written a lot of keyboard parts, at least the foundation of them. Then, because of the fact that Anders is classically trained, he can of course take those

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and turn them into five times more massive arrangements than what it would have been otherwise. So that's the whole process we have with the whole keyboard thing. And we use backtracks live actually when we play.

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Yeah, the process when it comes to the orchestration part, especially Seraphical Euphony, the title song of the debut, it's actually not like pods or anything like that. It's like I bought a special program to my...

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I like a special mod or something to my recording station where I record and it's called the Symphonic Orchestra and it applies every single instrument in an orchestra and even more than that and in especially the Seraphical Euphony it's like every single instrument is separate it's like a I think it's like a tuba and a ten set of violins and violas and cellos and a contrabass

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and a lot of different instruments. It was a crazy elaborate to work with, especially that song. I think it took me a month to write only the foundation and finish everything for Seraphical Euphony, only that song. It was like two years ago now, maybe. Yeah, I can tell you, the whole album was... Elaborate. Yeah, we went through hell and back to make this album, I can tell you. It was not an easy thing to do, but we finally made it and we're very happy with the results.

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Did you perhaps learn a lot from this experience that maybe the next album won't quite take so long? Or do you think it will be another ordeal? It will be an ordeal for sure because there are obviously new challenges to face with everything that comes along. But of course we learned a lot of things and this whole thing was a trial and error process from day one. We had to redo a lot of things. For example, me and Anders, we spent like 14 or 16 hours a day in the studio.

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6 days in a row just recording drums and basically burnt ourselves out.

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Wow.

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And then for the guitar recordings, you know, I think we spent one and a half year on the electric guitars, you know, sitting, not all the time, but sometimes we sat for like 30 or 40 days straight with one single song.

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Quite exhausting in it.

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And we lost some guitar parts that we were supposed to, that we were forced to re-record. We lost bass parts we re-recorded, me and Harry, the vocalists, we started fighting.

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the studio are not fighting like that, but fighting vocally. I have to ask you this. Is that just something about your guys speaks for the personality of the band? You spending like 30 to 40 days on one song. To the average listener like myself, I probably wouldn't even hear the problems that you guys are bringing up, right? But is it just that you guys want to put out the best album possible that you guys couldn't accept? Yeah, I mean, we invested

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a lot of energy, time and even money into this album which is basically, at least for me, it's kind of a life project if you will, or what you call it in English. So naturally we wanted each and every song to be as perfect as possible. So we put a lot of effort into making everything perfect. Well I think the attention to detail paid off because it sounds great. Thank you. The drum part was really really painful. I remember

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I was at the tour with another band at the same time. So I came, like, this was my week at that time when I recorded drums. It was like a Friday and Saturday I was at a tour and then on Sunday I came back to Stockholm to record and then on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday I recorded drums and then on Friday and Saturday I was back on tour and then on Sunday I was literally dead and I was dying on my sofa. I can't tell you, I don't remember anything from that Sunday when everything was finished.

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because I did literally nothing. That's why I don't remember nothing.

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I remember when I was in the studio and we recorded the drums. I didn't record anything. I was just behind the buttons, clicking OK, next and stuff like that. But I got panic issues. I got panic attacks and stuff.

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Yeah.

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A claustrophobia somehow, yeah.

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Yeah, we slept over at the studio at one point because we were like, we were under such time pressure because we had more days actually but because I was on tour at the same time I couldn't really be there for so long so because of that we had to shorten it a couple of days and that's why we really had to sleep over at the studio and we recorded from like 8 in the morning till 2 in the night and slept over and then began in the morning again and I remember

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It's like torturing your guy's self, man. Yeah, it was literally torture.

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I think you have to kind of go with it. Every band that produces something worthwhile has to go through a certain experience of trial and error in order to make good music, I think. So it was a good thing in the end, I suppose. Like George said when we first got you guys on, it definitely, the quality speaks for itself on first listen. It just shines through. Oh yeah, I knew right away I was going to like this. Yeah. This album, when you listen to it, it surprised

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you around every corner and i again was listening to it last night and i got to track six primal cosmic ascendancy and and that track again just blew me away because you find these little things you didn't hear before in each song this is one of those albums that uh with each listen you enjoy it more than the last because you're hearing little parts that you didn't hear the first 10 times listening to it thank you a lot that is a actually a great compliment because

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That is the way, at least, I suppose everybody in the band view how music should be listened to. I mean, I usually tend to like music more that I have to, how should I say, work more to appreciate, you know, listen to it a couple of times and discover new details. That's the kind of music for me that lasts the longest because there's so much to absorb in it. So I'm glad that you got that impression.

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And definitely,

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and definitely,

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Eric and Andrews,

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this is definitely not an album for,

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you know,

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the guests listening,

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right?

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Sorry,

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for our listeners listening right now.

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Okay.

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I don't recommend this album.

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Sorry.

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It says bad to say it's the first,

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but I don't recommend this listen to listen to a track here and then listen to another band.

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This is like the best way to listen to this album is sit down,

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roll through it,

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start to finish.

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It's the,

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it is the best.

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I say the only way to listen to this album,

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because you let the album take you on that journey. It is a journey, actually. Do you guys have like a... I'm sorry, Jay, go ahead. No, go with what you're going with there. I was going to talk a little bit more about production and recording and stuff. Do you guys speak on like the... Do you have an overarching theme for the album? Yes, we have an overall theme for the album. I could... Or we could basically sit here for...

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for three hours each, when it comes to lyrics, because our lyrics are veiled and ciphered within layer upon layer upon layer of metaphors. But the overall theme of the album, Seraphical Euphony, is basically about ascending to a higher state. That's basically, and whether, you know, it's, it's, it's, that subject is dealt with in each and every song through different perspectives. That's the overall theme of it. That's basically the whole message.

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of the album, I would say, is to never give up on what it is that you want. And that everything needs to evolve. You know, not to pick on it, but George and I have both been struggling this week with a record that we want terribly to like that has the exact same theme. And I want to say you were much more successful and made it interesting. And I'm talking about the new Shamash record, which people are starting to talk about as a kind of masterpiece, which it's not, no offense, but at least not for me. But I mean, it lacks the interesting paths that you guys have taken.

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It's a little one-dimensional. It's one-dimensional, but yet it tells a very similar story to what you're talking about. I know you're not in a contest with anybody, but I'll just tell you we're much more successful. Guys, an album that has so many layers, musically, lyrically, lyrically, is that even a word? Let's just make it up today. Are you guys,

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Do you guys have any conversations about maybe this going over people's heads? How do you mean going over people's heads? Not really. Well, people get it. You put a lot of work into it. People can understand it. I can only speak for myself, but the thing that I want to get out of when writing lyrics, and me and Anders write lyrics together sometimes, is that we want to express something we feel inside of ourselves. That's priority number one.

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people understand that, that's fantastic, but that's not the first priority. Not to say that we neglect our listeners and lyric readers or whatever in any way, but first priority is that we have something that we feel that we want to say, and then we say it. So that's... Oddly, because it is your project, you know? I'm sure a lot of bands have songs that people just don't take the way they were intended when they were written, and that's why, you know, a lot of times people ask musicians, well, what's the song about?

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and go, "Well, what do you think it's about?" Yeah, I think so. You'll go crazy thinking about that. That's a good way of putting it. So, "Africa Leophanes" is a song that is giving a lot of hits. The title track is like a journey through Hades, like the underworld in Greek mythology. So, we studied a lot about Greek mythology and especially about Hades, the underworld.

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We tried to do as much as possible, but we write about everything that comes to mind and what we find interesting. As Eric said, it's like priority number one is what we have to say. And if anybody else gets it or not, it's not anything we really thought about. Because we didn't really know that this album would blow up like it did. It's like Napoli now. I didn't expect that. I expect like...

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When it's finished we release it and our friends and family buys it and then it's dead.

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That's what we kind of expected. We didn't expect any kind of large-scale exposure whatsoever.

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As Anders said, I was also expecting we would gain like 50 more Facebook likes, we would gain some more following at least.

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Some people would like it, our family and friends would buy it to support us, that's what we expected.

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It went way out of our hands, and the rollercoaster ride has just begun, as we view it right now. Yeah. When I first heard it, I heard it on Bandcamp, and I spent a great deal of time going through new music on Bandcamp, looking for the next band that I'm going to like and that I want to feature on here. And I listened to a lot of bands for like 30 seconds and move on, and as soon as I heard Seraphical Euphony, I was just like, wait, what?

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I mean, for a band that I hadn't heard of before, to come out of the gate with something like this, it just blew my mind. So again, I have to say congrats. Thank you. So did you work with any kind of producer? I mean, you spent so much time on it individually, so can you talk about that a little bit? And then also just ultimately mastering it, which I'm assuming maybe one of you did. I will tell you a bit about that initially. The whole problem when we had recorded everything was,

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to choose which kind of producer we would have for this album. We had a lot of, I suppose, candidates that we were looking at. I would say a list of like 10 or 15 people that we had contacted and asked what they would do and so on. But essentially we decided to go with a guy called Sverker Vidgren. He's the former co-founder of Necromorbus Studios. Are you familiar with that studio? You have to maybe give us a release that they made.

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every Vatein album, every album from a Swedish band called Offremood, Funeral Mists, Malign, really high quality Swedish black metal stuff.

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Marduk in there too.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So basically we contacted him and we had a discussion with him and then he started adding his stuff.

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And then I remember me and Harry, the vocalist, we went to his studio and then we gave him all the files, which I don't know how many gigabytes of material it was, but it was a lot of files that we had to transfer.

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And then initially he said, "Okay, I will mix, master and edit this album in six days." But then when he saw the files and how much work it would be, he was like, "Okay, I'll go with nine working days." But I can tell you, it did not take nine working days. It took more like nine working months for him to do this. But basically, he made a fantastic job with the mastering process because I was really worried for some parts of the album to not sound the way we wanted it to sound.

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He's a really talented guy and a sure kickass producer.

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Sverker Wiggen.

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Guys, I have to ask this. You're just mentioning more bands. I have it in my head, and I know it's true. In my profession, I run into a lot of tourists, and a lot of tourists come over from Sweden. And I always ask them, like, hey, do you know Opeth? Thinking that over there in Sweden, everybody's a metalhead. And they look at you like, what? Yeah, and they look at me like I have a third arm.

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In our world, Swedish metal to me at least is everything. From a young age, were you guys, you know, how did you get into metal? Anders, you can start if you want. Yeah, I started listening to metal when I was six years old, actually. I got into, I think Maiden. Maiden was the first band I actually got to listen to. And that's the first album I received.

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from a real artist or band or something was their first album from Iron Maiden. From 1980 I guess? Yeah. And that is still, because of it, this was my first album I ever received. It's still one of my favorite albums when it comes to metal. Because of it was the first album I ever received. But yeah, then I got into the earlier Metallica albums when I was like seven or eight years old. You know, Riding Lightning and Marshall

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and I continued to listen to the early albums from Metallica and then when I was like 11 or 12 years old more bands came in and then I became a real big fan of Slayer and King Diamond and the Merciful Fate and when I was like 30 years old I started to discover Emperor and Mayhem and all these kind of bands but Slayer became one of my head favorite bands ever because I love

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I think I saw them live first when I was maybe 13 or 14. I mean like a natural law to always be in the mosh pit or headbanging myself. But yeah. But otherwise I saw, I loved King Diamond a lot. And when these years passed by I actually got to learn one of the guitarists from King Diamond as well. So that's pretty cool. But otherwise, Mike Whitt. His second guitarist I guess.

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I started really really early. I was probably the only kid in my class from first grade until ninth grade who actually was listening to metal. I was like the outsider every single time.

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Okay, do you remember when At The Gates released Slaughter of the Soul in like 95?

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And that's our whole scene?

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We were barely...

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You guys weren't at that time.

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I was five years old in kindergarten. Nonetheless, do you remember it? No, I don't remember the release. It's a fucking great album, of course, for the soulists and influence on us. It's just crazy that groundbreaking albums came out and they just, in a sense, only passed them by just because of their age. They know about it now, but had they

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If they'd been maybe your age or your age, Jay, they would've been living it when it would happen.

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Actually, that makes it all the more interesting that the first one you got your hands on was that first Iron Maiden record to me.

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Yeah.

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Because A, it must have sounded old to you.

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I mean, because that is kind of a, you know, it sounds like a 1980 record.

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How was it that that fell into your hands?

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Well, I had a kind of lonely childhood overall.

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I hadn't, well, I had no friends at all when I was a kid.

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Don't be crying, George.

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So...

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When I was... Okay, it's literally my second kind of because I had the Alpha Wheel Forever Young from like 84 before that, but the first metal band album was the first record from Maiden. And I don't know, I said to my parents that I liked Maiden and I liked their stuff and then they bought a random album and I suppose it was like they just took whatever they got and it was the first album.

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And then I listened to it a lot. I had it on for weeks, months in a row when I was at our country house outside of Stockholm back then. So when I had no one to actually play with or be with, I used to listen to that album and pretend that I was the bassist by Steve Harris. So actually my biggest influence back then was Steve Harris more than anybody. But then when I started listening to Metallica,

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He became more influenced by Lars Ulrich because of the early records of Metallica.

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I don't think that's a popular thing. Maybe you shouldn't tell people that.

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No, he said it just right. Because of the early records.

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Okay. Because of the early records.

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But, you know, I was like seven years old.

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I didn't know about what a good drummer was or what a drummer was either way.

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I didn't know anything back then.

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No offense, Lars.

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He's pretty good on those early ones.

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You know, let me just say this.

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How many heavy metal stories, George, start like this? Well, when I was a kid, I didn't have any friends. That's how you end up listening to heavy metal in the first place. Yeah, basically. My score was quite similar, actually. Not in the term of not having any friends. No offense, Anders. I began with Aramaden as well, but at a much later age.

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with Iron Maiden at about 13 years old, I got the record Best of the Beast, which was a compilation album of Iron Maiden from my brother. And then I bought Fear of the Dark, which was my first album with Iron Maiden. And then I just basically just listened to Iron Maiden for half a year or something like that. The only band I listened to. Then I got into more, I guess you could say power metal stuff, like the early Nightwish records, the early Hammerfall records. Yeah, buddy, now we're talking. Yes. Yeah, but, and, you know, later on I became,

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I've always had a fascination for guitar harmonies and melodies and metal. That's kind of my weak spot, if you will. So later on, I began, of course, acquainting myself with the early Metallica records, Master Puppets, you know, with the thrashy stuff. And later on, Slayer. And eventually I came into the whole melodic death metal scene of Gothenburg, with, of course, At The Gates, Old In Flame, Star Trek Quillity, even All Large Enemy stuff and stuff like that. And then it just escalated to more and more extreme stuff as I got older and started playing guitar.

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I was very influenced by Dissection and Emperor are two major inspirations for I appear on, of course. And then it just, you know, it has expanded ever since. And then I listened to a lot of different music, atmospheric music, soundtracks, all kinds of stuff, really. I gotta ask you guys, I'm curious about this. Is there ever a question for the band to not do the album in English? I've always wondered if that created a problem. No, actually not.

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At least for me, or for a short period, I at least try to write lyrics in Swedish and I have no problem with the Swedish language whatsoever. I just, me personally, I find the English language much richer when it comes to literature and of course, when I grew up, I played a lot of computer games in English.

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So library.

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Books. And I watched English movies. So I was always fed with English words and the English language in general.

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And then all of the bands that we listened to wrote lyrics in English. So it just felt natural to express those types of emotions in a global language, which we all understood. I find that really interesting, actually. Me too, because it's almost like making a choice, George and Anders and Eric. It's almost like making a choice of what kind of guitar tone you're going to use. It's almost an instrument choice, really. And that's so interesting to me that a lot of people see that.

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I think you're probably not alone in what you just said. I guess that's what I'm saying. And I'm talking about European people. And I don't think it's to appeal to a bigger audience. There's just something about the way the language works that it's working for your music. And that's really interesting. I've never really thought about that before. Yeah. Moreover, what I was going to mention, Buick, was just how interesting it is to me that you guys are younger guys and yet you kind of got into the metal through the same gateway drugs everybody else does, that people that are our age that grew up with it, and you went in the same order that we did.

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You win Iron Maid and Metallica and it got more extreme. That's so interesting, especially since, unfortunately you won't be here, but later in the podcast we're talking about, we have a little subject where we're going to talk about introducing people to the metal who haven't heard it. Wow, that's just so interesting to me that you guys both went that way. That's a great point. Their introductions to metal could have been those mid-90 bands. Somebody could have handed them, hey, start with this, like here, just erase. Start with this.

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But no, they landed on the maiden. They came in chronologically, and it's why I was really surprised to hear you both were so young, because I would have thought you were older. That's kind of the thing I find appealing about metal in general. I don't know, it's this underlying feeling of that metal is based on some kind of tradition. We value older bands as much as we value new bands that are respectable. And that's kind of one of the things that are unique about the metal subculture in general, is that's

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You know, the old bands that really made a mark in the early days, so to speak, they still are very valid. And that is the thing I appreciate a lot in the metal scene. And that is the thing goes for both young and older people in the metal scene. You know, the foundation is important, I think, just to put that another way. And I think if you have been listening as long as some of us have, all of us have, you can hear that. For what it's worth, you can hear it even in your music, which is so far removed now.

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from the beginning of the genre. That foundation is still there. And it's why it works. In better records like yours, which is a modern record, that foundation is somewhere there even if it takes a math genius to find it. It's there. And that's why it works. It's still those elemental things that work. So it's cool. It's not surprising to hear you guys have an appreciation for that, I guess is what I'm saying. You're all massive Iron Maiden fans and you can obviously hear a lot of twin guitar harmony work on the album. So I guess that shines through as well.

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I'm not saying youth can't be, you know, youth is a bad thing. Because, you know, we look at, like, hockey players. You know, they can come in and make an impact at 18, 19. It's cool that, you know, young metalheads here can put together an album like this on their first try. Yeah. You know, that shows that the metal world is alive and healthy. Yep. Well, Boop, do you remember what your deep track was last week? I do. Say it out loud. Judas Priest. I can't remember the track right now. You don't have to be old to be wise.

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Exactly. Yes. Do you guys, a quick side note, as Jay, George, and I are deep in the hockey playoffs right now, and Jay, George, and I are big Washington Capitals fan, we have Nick Backstrom and Marcus Johansson, both Swedish national players. Do you guys watch any hockey? No. No? It's okay. I don't. It's okay. Do you know Opath? I've heard of them.

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I watch hockey when it comes to the championship, like the world championship once a year. When it comes to the world championship, then I watch. Otherwise, I don't follow NHL or any other team or anything. But when it comes to the world championship, then I'm going for Sweden.

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We follow. And it's funny too, as Buk points out, just a lot of Swedish guys play over here. Yeah. A lot of Swedish guys play over here. Yeah. I suppose hockey is a northern sport. There are a lot of good hockey players from what I heard in Sweden and in Finland in general. Norway as well. Eric, you mentioned it. You grew up playing video games. What did you grow up playing? Oh, that's a very interesting thing for me to speak of because, you know, I was a huge fan of the early and still is.

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I also played Heroes of Might

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to Magic 3 and stuff like that. You're right up my alley, buddy. Yes. I was going to say, what about some more recent video game music like the Skyrim music? I love that. The Skyrim music is amazing. I have never played the game in my entire life, but I love the soundtrack. Just to throw one more out, I think the Diablo soundtrack is amazing. That's one of my favorites. That's one of the more metal. The World of Warcraft soundtrack is amazing. Video game music, a lot of people just get into it.

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for the graphics and the gameplay and stuff like that. But we just mentioned some games. Blizzard does an amazing job. But the soundtracks for these games, amazing. Yeah, they are majestic. Listen to the soundtracks from the Warcraft 2 games. That could easily have been a mighty, mighty orchestra composed in the 16th or 17th century by Bach or something. I don't know. That's the classical student. Maybe not.

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The classical guy is getting a bit angry at me. No, I'm kidding.

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What I want to come across is that the music has a lot of power, a lot of melody, and a lot of depth and thought into it, which I really appreciate in any kind of music, whether it be metal or gay music.

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Anders, you had mentioned you were going to a composer school in the south, and I was wondering if that was in Malmer.

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No, I have only applied. I haven't had it yet.

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I was really just curious as to what town it was. No, it's in Visby in Gotland. It's like, you know, the island in the middle of the Baltic Sea. It's like an old island called Gotland. And there's an old city called Visby. And there's a composer's code. There's an old island. There's an old man who sits on the house. It's funny you mentioned that. You have to answer three questions to get out of the island. I've been binge-watching Vikings on Blu-ray this past couple of days.

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and that was one of the islands on the map. So I was like, oh, I love that. It's a real island. Yeah, well, yes, I understand that. Otherwise, I applied to Malmo, the high school of Malmo and the Royal Academy of Music in Stockholm, I think was last year. But I didn't enter. I guess I chose the wrong repertoire to play. But then I was applying for like,

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What do you call it? I was playing piano back then. You play like hot cross buns and stuff like that and somebody's playing Mozart. I'm not going to lie to you, Anders. I was just showing off my geography skills. I've been to your country just one time, but I was there and I stopped in Gothenburg, as we all call it in Metal World, in the train station.

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What town are you guys in? One more time, what did you say? What city are you in or town? You're in Stockholm. You're both in Stockholm. Yes, we are all in Stockholm. I'm in downtown Stockholm area in the city and Eric lives in the ghetto side somewhere. I'm living in the southern suburbs of Stockholm. Guys, again, for our listeners, we're talking to Eric and Anders from Hyperion and their album Spherical Euphony.

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is out right now. You can go online and buy it. How is Stockholm as a metal city, guys? Are there a lot of cool venues? Yes, there are a lot of venues here, actually, and there are a lot of shows all the time. There is Globen, which is a huge arena, and then we have an arena called Friends Arena, which houses like 60,000 or 70,000 people or something like that. I actually saw Iron Maiden there two years ago, which is very, very mighty. And we have at least 10 or 15

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Large and smaller places to play, which houses all kinds of gigs. We have a lot of gigs here. Here stateside, Jay lives in the San Francisco Bay Area, home of Metallica. They're famous for doing these one-off little bar shows where they may play under a different name or they may just come in unannounced and make exclusive fan club members know about the show.

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They play for like 30 people. Are there any events and bands around Stockholm where, you know, let's say like Dark Tranquility plays under a band like the band named Happy, like Happy Times, and they play at a bar for like 10 people? Not that I know of. Okay. Do you know any of those? No, not that I know of either, actually, but if you're lucky, you might see Meshuggah guys walking down the street, so. Yeah, who are the... Going around, but, otherwise than that, no, we don't have anything like that.

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Who are the metal celebrities in Stockholm? Who is it if you see him on the street you go, "Oh my gosh, that's... Michael Ackerfeldt or something." Actually him I haven't seen. I know he lives in the same city as us, but he's quite reclusive I suppose. I haven't seen him. But I do see people from time to time. Usually I don't see the people that I listen to the most, but the guy I see all the time, I think he lives like a couple of hundred meters from me, is Elge Petrov from the

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The former vocalist of Entombed. I see him all the time on every gig. He's always getting shit-faced drunk. We always have those guys at shows. That guy again. I just saw Entombed last week. No, two weeks ago. There's some bands from you guys maybe on the festival scene. For George, it's Running Wild. George would give almost anything to see Running Wild.

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Are there any bands maybe from the states here or around the world that you guys have wanted to see live but for some reason haven't come through Stockholm?

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I've never seen D-side, or Kappa Corpse, those two I wanna see.

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Otherwise there are a lot more European underground death metal bands and cult bands that I haven't seen and that are never around, like Necrophagas that literally never are around anymore.

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So that is probably the first band I would pick, like Necrophagas, I wanna see Necrophagas, but yeah.

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They have released an album for like, what is it, like 12 years and they're never on the road and they never come by Sweden and you know those guys.

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For my part I would have loved to see Dissection, but unfortunately I got into Jül Nöthveit's music one year after he committed suicide, so I never got a chance to see them live unfortunately. But other than that I would love to see Deathspell Omega, which would never happen because they never play live.

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I would love to see an American band called Caladan Brood. They're great. Kind of a summoning-ish act. And then of course summoning I would love to see, but they don't play live either.

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Gautas Gallo Smalik, yeah.

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Wasp! I would love to see. I love Wasp.

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Oh, Wasp! We all like them too.

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I wouldn't want to see them now though.

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to drink and get drunk to their music.

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But would you guys want to, just like George mentioned, would you want to see Wasp now?

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I want like Chris Holmes Wasp.

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He still has his voice intact from what I've heard.

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He's a bit large, but that doesn't, that hasn't.

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But he's gone, he's gone born again Christian, so he won't play some of the songs.

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Being completely intact.

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I have to, I have to say this.

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I have tremendous amount of respect for Blackie, but I saw one really, really funny picture on the internet once, which was like a picture of him with his recent body, if you will. And then he was screaming, and then it was like a text on top of his body was like, I wanna eat somebody's food. I laughed for weeks after that. Are you guys fans of their later releases, or is it really about those early releases with them?

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It's like the early release, like Insider Electric Circus and what's that? "Fremes and Idol." "Fremes and Idol." "Fremes and Idol." "Yeah, that one." "I like the first four." "Yeah, the first four." "Also, some of their later songs are actually very good as well. I mean, some songs from Dominator, not Dominator, what's it called. I have more, you know, I like the older stuff more, but there are a couple of new songs which I like."

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I'm a fan, I know George is a fan, I think you are too beautiful. I love him. Yeah, I mean, that's sort of a sad history there, they really could have been somebody. Nobody was listening to that first song. I was hoping you guys would talk a little bit about where the artwork for the record came from. Well, the artwork for the album was drawn by a very talented Russian artist called Alex Tartus. We basically came in contact with him through a guy called

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One Femte, which is the vocalist of a Swedish band called Netherbird. He recommended them to us and we had done some of his work and I had worked with him previously with another band and he had done a tremendous work on that. So that's, he drew the album. Or did you want to know anything specifically about the theme or? Is there a theme to it too? I think the theme actually captures exactly what you described the theme of the album being, to be honest with you. But no, I was more interested in where it came from. Yeah, well, it was a process in the beginning as well.

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well when we actually talked about the front page or like the cover of the album. Me and Eric settled his place and like discussed it for a couple of hours I guess and got drunk on wine as usual. But otherwise in that we... it had to have a meaning with Seraphical Euphony. And Seraphical Euphony as I mentioned earlier was about like Hades and the underworld. So we tried to incorporate different elements from different

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I can't explain, because the whole theme of the artwork is, of course, as we've said before, a journey through Hades and eventually coming to place in Greek mythology called the Isle of the Blessed, which is the one who is the one who is the one who is the one who is the one who is the one who is the one who is the one who

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The ultimate paradise beyond the Elysian fields. But what Anders was referring to is the man on the horse with a bow. That is actually referring to two of the songs on the album. The first song is called "Flagolim Dei" which deals with Attila the Hun and the second song deals with Genghis Khan. And they are... "Pierre and Yearning" the eighth song on the album. Exactly. And that statue is kind of a reference to those two songs on the album.

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It's a little bit William Blake-ish, if you know William Blake. It's got just a little bit of that quality to it. If you don't know who he is, you may look it up. In the metal world, he has the cover of... I mean, he lived in the 1800s or whatever, but one of his paintings is the cover of The Chemical Wedding, Bruce Dickinson's record. I'm sure a lot of people have used his work. A lot of people have used his work, yeah. You also have a rather well-known artist that did your logo as well. Yeah.

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Christoph Speidel, the one and only. The guy who made the Emperor logo, the guy who made the logo for Old Man's Child. He's an amazing logo. Yeah, actually, when I saw that he did that, it reminded me that I actually wanted to try and get a hold of him to see about doing one for us. How did this come about? Did you guys just contact him? He was like, sure. Yeah, how'd you get a hold of him? Yeah, it was a very kind of bizarre incident, if you will, or not that, if you will, but it was also through Johan Nefente.

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which is again the lead singer of our buddies netherbird we needed a logo and i talked to him and he was like contact this guy christoph speitle he did the emperor logo we're like what yeah by the way and then i and then i talked and he was like sure i will i will do a logo for your for for for 35 euros like sure what really okay i definitely need to get a hold of him now now i think he charges like 45 euros or something it's still very reasonable it's starting to get out of control

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I paid twice as much for something that looked like crap. Yeah. Yeah, but sure, contact him if you want a logo because he's really talented and he works fast. At least if you give him thorough directions, he does what you want. Maybe off air here you could give me his contact info. Sure, sure, sure. I just looked up here, you guys mentioned your friends in Netherbird, it looks like they have split up, they released a couple albums here, full length albums, the Ferocious Tides of Fate. We have a bit of inside information on

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them personally. All I can say is that they have not really split up yet.

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Okay.

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No, not yet.

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But I will not tell you anything more.

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They should be the ones releasing them.

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Yes, of course.

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We are very, very close friends to Netherbird, and they are still brewing on something.

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Okay.

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They have supported us like crazy these couple of years since we started recording.

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Before that, they have...

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Johan Fente especially has been like really supporting when it comes to the band.

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He's a major supporter and also...

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All those guys Pontus and the other guy Johan, there are two Johans in the band.

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That's great to hear when...

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Actually, we recorded all of the drums in their studio actually.

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Yeah, and some of the drum parts were actually...

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The drums that I used were a part of Niels Dominator, the guy from Dark Funeral. It was his drums because at the moment he was actually in and playing with Netherbird. So I got permission to use some of his drums to record Zerafical Euphony to get a better sound, a little bit of drum sound from the toms and all that. So we asked them before and they said, you can use some of our drums if you want to.

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It's kind of cool, man. It's kind of nice. That is cool. I wonder if there is somewhere out there there's the most educated metal kid in the world going, I love that record, but the Tom Toms sounds so much like the Dark Funeral record. Someone's picking up on that Tom. Maybe they're just sitting there like, I know I've heard that somewhere. I can't put my finger on it. I think George was going to say it. It's cool to hear bands

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form such a cool bond with other bands like that. Jay can't exactly say that the San Francisco

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Queen scene is quite so cuddly. Yeah, it isn't. That's not what it used to be. I don't know how much you guys know about the San Francisco

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scene, but I mean, your Metallica fans, for instance, and the thrash thing came out of here, but it's just not like that here anymore. I mean, all of our band friends are bands that are just in our rehearsal complex.

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I only know classical musicians from the Bay Area. I'm sorry about it. Otherwise, there are constant bands. It's like Metallica. That's the only thing. I love Calais with the early Slayer. Real quick, and then I have no more for you, if George does. When you guys aren't listening to metal, or not making metal, I should ask, you mentioned

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And, you know, liking video game soundtracks or, you know, you with your classical music, are you guys, what music are you guys listening to? For me, personally, I would say, of course, metal and movie and game soundtracks are huge influences to me, but also atmospheric music in general, like kind of ambient music and a lot of some classical music as well. Those are my real passions. And some 80s, you know, classical rock and 70s classic rock and also that kind of stuff. But generally, I tend to prefer

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and melodic music, whether it be metal or epic soundtracks, those are my soft spots.

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Maybe I can get you in a power metal band. Do you want to start something?

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Let's go.

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I love power metal.

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I love power metal too.

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We love power metal too.

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Ben Garne, Galway, all those guys.

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Do you have a favorite soundtrack composer?

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For me, I would say Glenn Stafford, the guy who wrote the Warcraft 2 soundtrack and the Starcraft soundtrack. He's a genius.

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Another soundtrack I gotta bring up. The Conan the Barbarian soundtrack. That's classic. Who wrote that? Basil. It's a really long name I can't pronounce. Pooldaris or something like that. And Anders, do you just surround yourself with classical music when you're not playing? Well, when it comes to music in general, I don't listen that much to

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It's more or less only classical music and then I'm like a music geek, I'm telling you. I listen to music from Azerbaijan to Japan to China to Spain, I listen to flamenco, I listen to everything, literally everything. But what I listen right now is mostly I'm trying to discover new composers and new stuff within classical music and lately it has been a little more

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when it comes to Asia and China and Japan in particular, and especially Japan. Otherwise than that, I've been listening to a lot of flamenco from Spain these couple of years. Like, Faggot Lillusia, the great one. And I listen to a lot of French chanson music, like Charles Sassnavour, what her name... Oh God, I love that woman, but I just forgot her name. Edith Piaf. I have to ask, as a self-proclaimed music geek,

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We're going to talk about it when we get into the pod. How's your way to listen to music? Do you have a nice pair of headphones? Do you have a real nice pair of speakers? And there's a follow-up question here, just so we don't forget to ask, guys, is the record coming out in vinyl? That was my next question. Take Bukes' part first, for sure. We got that question for like 100 times now. Well, there you go. You've already sold 100 copies, then. For each question, we make one copy.

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There you go. But Buke's question was, "What is your preferred mode of listening?" and I am curious to hear that. Oh yeah, yeah. Well, I got some studio speakers of some kind. Quite expensive stuff. So I listen to those usually. Otherwise, I have studio headphones as well for my late piano sessions when I practice in the morning or something. Or I actually use them with the computer as well sometimes. So I use both headphones and

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and speakers both like studio adaptable stuff. I got it quite cheap because I know some. I know a guy. I know a guy who knows a guy who robbed a guy. Yeah. For my part. I got everything through him for a very cheap price. So that's it. For my part I usually enjoy listening

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I'm not really a technical person in any way so I just take it to headphones that don't sound like crap to me.

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But I prefer my, you know, snekkor, you call them in Swedish, I don't know what they're called in English, but you know, small headphones.

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Yeah, in-ear, of course.

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And then you have, and then of course I like big headphones like I have right now, a headset, but also I really enjoy listening to, you know, having a lot of friends over and listening to my speakers at home, you know.

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Pounding some real good music. That's good. And to answer your second question regarding the vinyl, we have had many, many, many, many people writing to us asking if we were going to do vinyl. And for a long time, that was not really the case because it is so expensive. But now we are actually in contact with a company that have pledged themselves to offer financial support to print vinyl. So it's in the...

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It's a working process, but it will take some time. Knowing what we learned from you guys today, don't expect it a week from now or a month from now. It'll be a slow burn, but when it comes out... Focus on quality, not quantity. And you don't have to comment on this, but is it a label, do you mean, that you're talking to? Yeah, we have a record label, but the label that is contacting us for the vinyl stuff is a third-party label, if you will.

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It might come out in the summer sometime. Somewhere in the summer will be hopefully a release of vinyl. We hope so too. It sounds like it's one of those things that's going to fly off the shelf, especially if you do a limited run because people are so taking to this record. Are there many people in the States enjoying this album? I don't know. Everybody we know. There you go.

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in mind, this is something we do as a hobby, the podcast and things like that. And the metal scene is just kind of, you know, it's a little bit lower than it used to be everywhere. But you guys are getting, you know, a lot of exposure online, as you obviously know. And like George said, people we know are listening to it, and I think that speaks highly of it. For everybody to be listening to it that we know says a lot. Okay, great. Different sub-interests and things. In closing here, we'll give you guys the final say.

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Go ahead, plug your guys' stuff, say anything else you want our listeners to know. Let people know where they can buy our album. I would like to thank you tremendously for letting us be on our show, and we really appreciate that you guys are passionate about our music and metal in general. So, yeah, that's all for me. Yeah, I say the same thing to everybody who listens to this. We didn't even know that this would happen at all.

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For like a couple of months ago or like a year ago, we just did what we did. Right. So it's really we really appreciate everything that has happened right now. Yeah. And we are extremely grateful. Yeah. We're extremely grateful. So thank you guys for letting us be on the show. That's we're grateful to it. So yeah, we love to talk to passionate artists who produce good music. And so we're just as grateful on our side. We really are. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Thanks for coming on. All right.

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That was our interview with Hyperion from Sweden. Like I said earlier, make sure to check them out. You can find them on Bandcamp. And I think you're really going to like this album. Re-listening to this album again for this interview had me moving my list around. This easily could be album of the year for me so far. Yeah. Seriously, it's funny because I've been talking to Jay about tremolo picking and how I've been picking up the guitar again recently. And basically, I suck is the bottom line.

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And I haven't played for a very long time. And I was like, I was never one to be able to do tremolo picking. And so Jay's like, you know, practice. And so I practice, you know, picking back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. And it's improving. But then I go and I listen to this album and it's like, just right out of the gate. It's like, I'm like, oh, fuck. I'm not even close to being good yet. Time to put my guitars on Craigslist. Yep. Or order another amp.

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I think that's the case. Time to upgrade. So, you know, definitely check these guys out. So I got a message from Buke the other day, and I'm going to let him talk about this a little bit, but basically he got some free shit. So why don't you tell us about that? Yeah, we here in the podcast, you know, we're all avid headphone users, and, you know, we've sung the praises of having a good pair of cans on your head for listening to

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to music. Headphones, too. And I had a pair of Grotto headphones before, but they were an entry-level model. But they did me well. They were amazing. Not that anything's wrong with them, but I wanted to reach out to Grotto as one expressed my appreciation with how amazing of a product.

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that they do, but also ask if they ever have a list for testing out some of their product. I'm not one to try and get free stuff from anybody because that's just not my character or what we do here on the podcast. I thought, hey, maybe they'd send me a discount code or 20% off or something like that. I reached out to Jonathan Grotto,

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The Sun of the company's founder. And in my inbox this week was a new pair of Grotto 225 Prestige Series headphones. Nice. They sound amazing. Right out of the box. Sound amazing. The fullness that these headphones add to my music already. I'm not just saying this as an advertisement or a plug for them, but

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I've tried a lot of headphones on, and these ones blew away the pair that I already had before. So I will report back in a couple episodes as my listening continues with these. But I just wanted to give a sincere thank you to Jonathan and everybody at Grotto for their amazing headphones. More than generous. It was not even my wildest dreams felt like something like that would happen, because you know we're not like a CNET or a company that's

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those, you know, reviews,

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reviews, whatever like that.

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We, we, we do,

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but we're just a couple of guys here on the podcast, you know?

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Yeah.

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So, so thank you.

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Well, it's funny.

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Cause I, I tell people, I'm like, you know,

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Buke could talk anybody into anything.

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If, if the Grim Reaper is coming right for me,

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I'd be like, take this guy over here.

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And he'd be like, okay.

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Sit down, let's have a talk.

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This is the guy that goes into the bar and asks the bartender,

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Hey, can I have that beer tap handle on your, the thing that you know?

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Yeah, the one you're using? Yeah, okay, thanks. And he gives it to him. Or the lady at Death Fest last year. Yeah, let us go in and out without going through security. Like, hey, can we come in? We might have bombs or guns, but can we come in without going through security? Sure, no problem. If I asked any of these things, I would get a sternly worded, fuck no. George would reach out to Grotto and they'd say, hey, here's Sony's website. And we're sending somebody to pick up your car.

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Yeah.

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So I don't know how he does it, but he does it.

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Just a gift of gab.

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I guess. I'm a nice guy, but whatever.

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It's not as talkative and social as you, I guess.

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All right, let's get into the news.

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So, uh, was it about a week or so ago, a little over a week ago, uh, Prince died and the world lost its mind. It, you know, it's been, they're calling this the year the music died as opposed to the day the music died. You know, we lost Bowie, we lost Glenn Fry, obviously right before the beginning of the year we lost, uh, Lemmy and, uh, well, they haven't released, uh, official cause of death yet, but it sounds to me like he had a bit of a pill problem, a little bit of opiate, uh, sort of a Michael Jackson-esque.

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death of too many prescriptions. Maybe so. But God, it hasn't died down yet. It's been over a week and people are still doing tributes. People are still posting things about it and playing the music. XM's still playing the shit out of his music. Obviously, Prince not being a metal guy, but he was one hell of a guitar player. And if, like Jay and myself, you grew up in the 80s, there was no avoiding Prince. I don't know, Jay, what your thoughts are on him.

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But I was a big fan of Purple Rain when it came out back in 84. I was kind of not because I was such a metalhead and I was against it. But I full-on admit that I had one of those moments where I saw the Let's Go Crazy video. And at the end, I was like, holy shit, that guy can fucking play guitar. And I probably didn't want to tell people I thought that was cool. Yeah, that was pretty much the way I felt too. Because 84, that was pretty much right when I was getting into metal at the same time. But like I said, Let's Go Crazy was such a rockin'

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song. So much of what came after Purple Rain was not rocking.

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It was much more funky. Well, there's this Jimi Hendrix guitar solo at the end.

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He could really play. He was a talented guy.

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And so I was just like, when this came out, I was like, man, that's some cool shit right there.

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And let's go crazy. I wore that song out.

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In our community, I can't speak on Prince because I never listened to the guy.

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I didn't like what he did. I'm not going to lie.

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Only thing I liked was Dave Chappelle's skit on Prince. But in our community, overwhelmingly, I saw the response on Twitter that a lot of people would have wished that he had done just a pure rock album. Yeah, he should have. He should have. And he was capable. He could do anything he wanted to. And he was, I think it's well established that he was a bit of a musical genius. Yeah. And he influenced people across so many walks of life. I mean...

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I mean, Corey Taylor did a couple of songs. He did Purple Rain and Little Red Corvette acoustically. At least those two. I saw videos for those. And they're kind of cool. He can sing. He can actually kind of sing. Yeah, of course. But still, while I haven't hardly listened to Prince in decades, it's still a part of my childhood, a part of my growing up. And for him to just be like, here one minute, gone the next, it was jarring.

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a little bit disturbing. He's only 57. I mean, it was weird. Yeah. Even more so than Bowie, because Bowie was 60s and 70s, whereas Prince was 80s, and that was my generation there. So it sucks. So rest in peace, Prince, I guess. Moving on to something a little more metal, Gojira released a video for Stranded, their new song from their forthcoming Magma album. Who, raise your hand if you listen to this,

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and hated it. You can't see this, but nobody hated it. Kind of old school look to the video, too. Yeah. Yeah, it was. Yeah. I didn't even have to ask. I know everybody likes this song. The hype for this could be too big. I don't know. I don't know. I thought it was really fucking good. I honestly think this might be their Led Zeppelin 4 getting ready to come out. Yeah. Maybe we have consensus on the podcast for once of album of the year. Maybe. I don't know about that. But I will not rule it out. I will not rule it out. We'll see. We'll see. Yeah.

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Yes, it is. No. I thought it was in June, but if there is, I didn't write it down. So I know I've already talked to Jay about this one. Candlemas released a lyric video for the title track for their forthcoming EP, Death Thy Lover. Go ahead and hit me with it, Jay. Hated it. Hated it. I didn't actually hate it. Hated it. Do you remember that? Men on film. Hated it.

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I understand where you're coming from, and I certainly cannot dispute what you might want to explain a little more. But I turned it on and then promptly started doing something else, and so I forgot what I was doing. And so then I was like, oh, there's music playing. What is that? It's not so bad. And then I was like, oh, wait, it's Candlemas. And then I hated it again. Because my point being that if I didn't know it was Candlemas,

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It's not so bad. It's not terrible in that regard. But then when you realize that it's Candlemass, you're like, okay. It's not up to snuff. It's another fucking singer. It certainly doesn't hold a candle to previous Candlemass efforts in any way, shape, or form. It's just not up to snuff, dude. Yeah. And they also made the somewhat weird decision, I think, even though I loved Robert Lowe, and you know that. I love that period. They got a Robert Lowe kind of sound alike. And that's so weird.

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That's so weird to me that of their whole vaunted history. But of their so vaunted history, they chose to get somebody who kind of duplicated him. I don't know. I mean, I love him, but it's just such a weird. I don't know. I just thought it was kind of a weak track, you know. It's kind of weak. And I didn't. If I'm going to hear Robert Lowe, I'd rather hear. You'd rather hear what? Robert Lowe. It might be time to wrap it up for them. Speaking of weak sauce. Hey, going back to Gojira, I'm saying June 17th, June 26th. It's around sometime in June. Yeah. Okay. Speaking of weak sauce, Alice Cooper was

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is featured in an Apple Watch commercial dressed up in his golf gear. What do you think of that? I didn't watch this one, but I love the Cookie Monster one. Oh, the Cookie Monster one is the tit. Tell me about it. You haven't seen the Cookie Monster commercial? It's almost fun enough for a way we should stop the recording. You should go watch it. It's him just waiting for cookies. Yeah, it's like he's baking cookies and he puts them in and he's like, Siri, set timer for 14 minutes.

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And then she's like, you see the timer going, and it's like 13.59, 13.58.

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And then they start playing a Jim Croce song, Time on a Bottle.

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And he's like, they keep cutting, fading to all these different, he's tapping his fingers on the counter, he's playing with the spatula, he's looking in, turning the oven light on and off.

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And then you see him outside the kitchen window looking in.

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It seems like he's doing all these things.

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And then he comes back and he's like, Siri, how much time is left? And it's like 13 minutes and 15 seconds. So it's only been like 30 seconds since he started. It's pretty funny. But no, I have not watched this yet. So do not have an Apple Watch. No. I swear by this, people, do not buy first generation products. Especially for $700. Good grief. Yeah. Yeah, I think you and no one else has an Apple Watch either, dude. I see a lot of work.

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all the time but uh i've never seen one either so faith's warning is getting ready to release a new album called theories of flight on july 1st um is uh is john arch singing on there no do i care not really i'll stick i'll wait it out for uh prog power in september when i can see him with john arch there you go yeah well speaking about prog power though has as john mentioned yesterday with some unrelated news that unless he made it on here to the

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Maryland Death Fest has shit the bed as John says. Don't worry, that happens at Prague Power all the time. We recently learned within the past couple days, here we are right now recording. It's May 1st. Death Fest is 20 days? No. Three weeks away or so? Three or four weeks. Destroyer 666 and Serpent Throne and Thulcandra. That one hurts, man. Apparently Thulcandra was a month ago, but we all missed it.

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that. But three bands, two of them I was really looking forward to. And they replaced... Dochandra with... Or Incantation replaced Destroyer. Yeah, Incantation replaced Destroyer 666, which is basically like saying, here's a nice tasty pastry. I'm going to replace this with a piece of shit! But in the running voice... Not voice, in the running messages that we

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amongst the pod here. George may have called me. He says, like, bands like Mayhem, who have documented, you know, crimes and atrocities. Get work visas. Well, you know, knocking on wood there, because it would not surprise me if Mayhem couldn't get into the country. Oh, yeah. Me either. But these guys can't. I am disappointed, especially because Serpent Throne, Destroyer 666 in particular, away at the top of my list.

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Did Serpent Throne just play? No, that was Serpent Cult. Oh, at the DC. No, they were at the Brow Fest. It was Serpent. Yeah, that's right. They were just here. That's what I'm saying. I thought you were talking about Death Fest from last year, the Serpentine Path. No, Serpentine Path. Boy, those guys were fucking heavy. Serpent Throne's from Pennsylvania, so it's not like they had to get a fucking visa. Oh, they had work issues. That's what it was. Is that what it was? Yeah. See what you think? You knew about this for a year. It's not like, oh, Death Fest is coming.

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I've known about this since last year's.

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Yeah.

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It's hard to say.

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I mean, you know, some people's...

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Obviously, particularly if you're a metal band from Pennsylvania, your job is definitely more important than the band.

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And if the job says, sorry, but you have to work, then that's what you've got to do.

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I'm looking forward to Death Fest, but if work tells me, hey, Puke, we need you to hear it.

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That's what you've got to do.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So...

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I spoke to Corey the other day.

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He says, to quote him, fuck that craft beer shit in the parking lot. We're pounding Natty Bows all day long. So that's straight from the Nine Turcles, guys. I think I'm going to go like Stella. Slightly weak and drinkable, but slightly classy. It's all day drinking. Yeah, well, I can drink Stella all day. At the art show down the street. Hey, it's got a little more flavor than fucking Budweiser. Or Natty Bows. Natty Bows tastes like

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I'm not from around here I can insult it

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yes I didn't know

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but to be honest it wasn't even on my

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fucking radar until I started dating

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my wife that's how much I hate Baltimore

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yeah it's up there with like

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old mildew I mean old Milwaukee

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so I was looking on

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I was looking on

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Instagram the other day and

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I saw this

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from one of our favorite bands

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Black Crown Initiate

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released the album artwork

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and confirmed that their next album, Selves We Cannot Forgive, will be out July 22nd. Can't wait. Or is it Wreckage? Wreckage of Stars? Wreckage of Stars or something like that? Yeah. That debut album we loved. It was high on our list. Oh yeah, it's good. Top three for I think you and I that year. I don't think it made my top ten, but it was definitely on my list. It was all mine. But we loved it. Oh yeah, it's a great album. I can't wait to hear this. I hope they've improved how they are on stage. But if you have not,

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If you've heard Black Crown Initiates debut album, please do yourself a favor and check that out. And also, another band I thought was dead and gone. I put this one on for you. Another band I really thought was dead and gone, Montreal's own Despised Icon is going to be releasing Beast on July 22nd. Despised Icon is a deaf core meets kind of grind. See, they're like a deaf core sound, but also they have some fucking

01:26:50.400 --> 01:26:57.800
brutal grindcore there uh they're not poppy but they were kind of riding that wave when like

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suicide silence and job for cowboys blowing up i didn't think they would release anything again

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so uh yeah i hadn't heard about them in a while so i was like and then uh over again this next one i

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could care less about oh you like them you like their newer stuff like i do i do overkill is getting

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ready to work on a new album i think they said they were going to be recording drums this month

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Nothing like a release date or an album title yet, but they are working on it. They're so diehard. This could be a news story every week. These guys just keep pumping out albums. Yeah. Got a whole bunch of new releases coming out, actually. Bloody Hammers just announced that they're going to release their new album on August 5th. It's called Lovely Sword of Death. I'm kind of looking forward to that. Sabaton is getting ready to release a new album on August 19th called The Last Stand.

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I hadn't heard about that one. Volbeat

01:27:55.740 --> 01:27:58.060
released a lyric video for their new song, The Bliss.

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You can't see it, but Buke just sneered.

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I listened to it and I liked it.

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Is it super uber commercial?

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Yeah, it is. It really is.

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But I dig the dude's voice.

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As I've said before, he kind of reminds me

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of the woman from Life of Agony.

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Ouch.

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And even though it's a little more poppy sounding, I dig them. I like the new song. I'm looking forward to the album. Oh, also what came out this week too, Power Wolf, a podcast favorite, announced that on July 29th they will release their first live Blu-ray and CD LP. Sweet. Called the Metal Mass Live. Nice. Awesome, dude. You and I love Power Wolf. Yeah, I dig those guys. That's probably one of my favorite power metal bands right now.

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DVD, two CD, limited edition set. Sweet. So this next one, which is actually the last news item, was sent to us, and it surprised the shit out of me, by listener Greg. And apparently Acker Cocker has returned, and they're going to be doing a new album called Renaissance in Extremis, which will be due this fall. Now, I thought these guys broke up. I think their last album was like 2007? It's been a while, dude. Aren't these the guys who get the hot fucking girls in their videos?

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Yeah, they're like, we play death metal with naked blondes. You know, the guy, the lead singer, whatever, whatever, head man, he's like a duke or something like that. He's part of a royalty and he owns like an old manor. I saw this article on it in Metal Hammer one time. It was so interesting to see that he had this big old gentry house somewhere and it was like totally evil too because it was old and dilapidated. It was awesome. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty neat. I'll try to look that article up and send it to you because,

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He's of royalty after a fashion. Sweet. Yeah, and like a devout, one of those real Satanist guys, too. He's an actual Satanist, yeah. Did you listen to the song? No, I haven't heard it. Did you like it? I did like it. It's not exactly what I expected. There's a lot, it's like pretty clean vocals, and it's very melodic. All right. I mean, it's certainly not the Antichrist Imperium, that's for sure. Yeah. I'll go after, I'll check it out this afternoon. I didn't even take a stab at it yet. But I'm not gonna,

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I'm not going to comment on that aspect of it until I've heard it in the context of the rest of the album. But it was still pretty cool. All right, let's do some new releases. First one, I don't know if Bukes got it yet, but I'm sure he will be, and that's the new aborted Retro Gore. I don't have it, but they've quickly, like I mentioned two or three episodes ago, they've kind of quickly become one of my favorite death metal bands out there now. I think the promo's in the box.

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It is. I haven't downloaded it, but it is. And then, of course, just finally released, our pals in All Father have released Bless the Earth with Fire. So if you listened a couple episodes ago when Tom was on and you were like, he's a pretty good son of a bloke, well, now's your chance to pick up the album. Go up to Bandcamp and pick up Bless the Earth with Fire. Spotify Mark, who was on last episode in our chat, I think he said it like three times.

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to how much he loves the album. And then he sent me a message like, not to keep blowing up and bothering everybody, but I really like that album. Will loves it. He likes it. It's a really cool album. Way to go, Tom. Cool thing about them, again, they kind of blend hardcore with a little more metal. I like my hardcore more hardcore. This is very doomy hardcore. I really dug it. Side note, do you think maybe it's time to graduate Spotify Mark to just be in Mark? Yes.

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Now that he's been on a couple of times and he's part of the gang, maybe we could just call him Mark. Yeah, you've hazed him enough with last week's episode of what you're listening to. Hey, I sent him an email with the whole list so he didn't have to write it all down. Oh, he just had to search it out. Okay. But he did send out a tweet saying that this was the largest playlist yet. So, sorry. It's much shorter this week. This next one I listened to actually this morning before I came over.

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Beast Wars, the death of all things. Kind of like a modern pentagram. That's a good way of putting it. I remember I got their last album when it came out, but I listened to it a couple times and then kind of forgot about it. But I recognize the artwork and the logo are sort of striking. And so I was like, oh, I know these guys. And so I snagged that. But I haven't given it too much of a listen yet. I just know that the brief listen I gave it, I was like, yeah, this is worth getting. You know, a metal movie that George and I kind of like,

01:32:47.780 --> 01:33:17.000
It's called Deathgasm. They have a couple songs in the soundtrack. I was watching it for the second time the other day and he's wearing a Beast Wars shirt in it. I didn't notice that. It's like later in the film. Awesome. That was cool. I'll take this next one too. If you're fans like me and you like what I recommend Fallujah has released Dreamless. More technical death metal perfection. Indeed. As George says, check it out. And a fucking cool cover on that record too. Oh, the album art. It's pretty cool.

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This next one I haven't heard yet, but it's on my list to check out when I can find it. Actually, I think I have it on my Bandcamp wish list. This is The Foreshadowing and Seven Heads, Ten Horns. They're kind of a gothic metal band. I've heard their last couple albums. And while it was interesting, it wasn't anything that knocked my socks off. It wasn't super. So we'll see if this one's any better. Cool.

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Next up is October Tide and their new album Winged Waltz. This is a dude that used to be in, I think it was Catatonia, and it's kind of a Death Doom album. Their last album, I believe, was called Tunnel of No Light, and I really dug that a lot. So I pre-ordered this one when it came out, and I've only gotten about halfway through it so far, but so far, so good. Death Doom.

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So before Jay was on the pod, there was a major snafu, fumble, fuck-up. What did I do now? Omission. This next band. Oh, well, this was actually the... Because it came in after we did our lists. Right. This was our first episode of 2015 featured this next band. This is Painted Wives, and they just signed with Century Media and reissued.

01:34:40.820 --> 01:35:10.680
their album Obsessed with the End. But this is a really good album, so I'm glad that they got picked up and it's being reissued for more people to hear. It's heavy, but it's got kind of this Alice in Chains kind of thing going on. Can't recommend this album. I agree. I was so glad you put this on here because I'm listening to music this morning playing some PlayStation. God, this album's awesome. It's not really super, super heavy, but it's pretty heavy. When I'm listening at 9 o'clock in the morning,

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on the Sunday, you're reminded how awesome of an album this is.

01:35:14.200 --> 01:35:14.300
Certainly.

01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:17.760
And literally, George is like, damn it, I just found this album.

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If I would have found it, it would have made my list.

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Yeah.

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Oh, and it's also being reissued on vinyl, which I have pre-ordered.

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Next up is the band Person, P-U-R-S-O-N, and Magic Theater.

01:35:29.280 --> 01:35:32.120
Now, I remember when their last album came out, Buke was all about this.

01:35:32.300 --> 01:35:36.040
So I haven't heard this yet, but I want to check it out.

01:35:36.300 --> 01:35:37.760
Kind of female-fronted doom.

01:35:38.100 --> 01:36:08.060
They just opened up on this most recent ghost tour through the states. They're the opening act. Excellent. Now this next one you guys were mentioning about earlier. Yeah, let me just take this can of worms and open it up. What's in there? Oh, I haven't heard this. Bunch of worms. This is the new Shamash album, triple album, Triangle. And Jay's ready. Not so much that Jay hates it. So I will just say this. Shamash album, to me, is the picture of disappointment. And the worst part about it is people are going to be

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I wish I could be a little more

01:36:12.200 --> 01:36:14.040
diplomatic here but the

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first like five songs

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and they're not short songs are basically

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just variations on this

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half step up

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and sometimes it's

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and sometimes it's like you know

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appraise you and it's always the same two fucking notes

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I couldn't fucking get through it and I tried

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like five times ask George

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and people are going to be calling this album a masterpiece

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I feel like Nine Circles really liked it. I saw that this morning. And I'll tell you this, and I feel like I'm pretty in on it. It's either so far over my head it's not ridiculous, or they ran out of ideas. I actually actively dislike this fucking record. There, I got it out. Yeah, I tried getting through it again this morning because I'm frequently guilty of writing something off because I haven't given it enough of a listen yet, and it turns out that it's a grower, and I just haven't given it enough of a listen.

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I haven't given enough attention yet to understand the album the way it was intended or what have you. But like Jay, the first couple times that I've gone through this, and I've been through the whole album, it just, okay, if you're going to make a hundred minute or so album, you got to make it interesting. And it's one thing if you're going to do like droning and, you know, avant-garde simplistic stuff, but don't do it for a hundred minutes. How does Son have a fucking following then? Well,

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I can't. People are calling this record a journey, and I'll tell you this. It's a journey that goes no fucking where. It's just one. Walking in a triangle. In the desert. And it just, and George, let it be sad. We should have started with this. George and I both loved Contradiction. Yeah. Loved it. I put it on right before I listened to this because I was like, yeah, I want to remember how great that was. And here we go, the new Shamash. Fucking hate it, dude. It's just not a good record. Like I mentioned in the interview, it's kind of one-dimensional.

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because it doesn't go anywhere. I dig the clean, sort of choir-y type vocals. That's about it. Because like I said, it's a drone, but not in a good way. It just doesn't go anywhere. I literally counted the fucking notes for the first five songs. I had to do something to stay awake. And this was like my fourth listen. I was like, fucking fuck this. I just got out. I have the three. I got the limited edition album. Wasn't excited. As I told George, it came here. I was like, yay.

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It's a shame. And the problem is, this is going to be an annoying year for me, because a lot of people are going to be putting this on the year-end lists. I already know that. But I think they're full of shit. I don't think anybody's sitting there listening to this record. I just don't buy it. You did buy it, actually. So did I. Triple fucking vinyl. Alright, so the next thing, I haven't heard it yet, but I can't wait to. And that's the new Vector album, Terminal Redux. I don't know them. You don't know them? Well, you should definitely check out the last two.

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Albums. Black, Future, and... Black and Thrash. Okay. Just Thrash. Black and Thrash. They're just very spacey themed. Like Voivod meets Creator. Oh, cool. All right, I'm in. And then Outer Isolation. Outer Isolation, yeah. Very Voivod looking kind of logo. And even the album titles are kind of Voivodian. But yeah, definitely check that out. I pre-ordered it. I haven't gotten it yet.

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An interesting side note, the drummer is dating Ray from Immortal Bird. Oh, right. Oh, all right. They're from Chicago then? Nope. No, these guys are in Pennsylvania right now in Philly. Okay. Last new release is The Wretched End and In These Woods, From These Mountains, Samoth of Emperor's second album, I believe, of this band. And, you know, so far, I'm kind of... It was on. It's cool. It's not of, like, the East.

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It's okay, though. Yeah, I mean, if you like Emperor, I think you'll like this. So, check it out. Let's get into our top three. You came up with this one. Why don't you tell us about it? So, I was sitting around and I was thinking, for somebody new getting into heavy metal,

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What three albums would you hand them to say here? Start your journey with this. Now, a really interesting thing about this is bands have had a lot of growth. Bands have had ups. Bands have had downs. Do you go in with a metal virgin? If you go too hard, you scare them away maybe. Possibly. Or you run the risk of maybe getting them just hooked on.

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the first one was and everything else after that isn't good. I would definitely recommend don't start people out with Pantera. Just a thought. Just kidding. So with that in mind, George originally had this top three bands. That's way too easy. And again, if somebody's just starting, they need more help than that. So Jay, you have a new metalhead talking to you right now. They just,

01:41:36.060 --> 01:41:38.020
Help me with metal, sir.

01:41:38.600 --> 01:41:38.680
Jay.

01:41:39.160 --> 01:41:39.640
Please, sir.

01:41:39.760 --> 01:41:40.540
I want some more.

01:41:41.500 --> 01:41:43.020
What do you start them with?

01:41:43.180 --> 01:41:44.420
Mine is totally fucking generic.

01:41:44.780 --> 01:41:45.820
My apologies in advance.

01:41:46.200 --> 01:41:46.820
Mine is too.

01:41:46.860 --> 01:41:49.740
Metallica Master of Puppets is my number three.

01:41:50.040 --> 01:41:50.340
Puke.

01:41:51.640 --> 01:41:52.280
That's a good one.

01:41:52.600 --> 01:41:54.140
That's also my number three also.

01:41:56.360 --> 01:42:00.120
I don't want to freak you guys out, but my number three is Metallica Master of Puppets.

01:42:00.440 --> 01:42:01.680
Oh, my goodness.

01:42:02.180 --> 01:42:03.540
Dude, what if we do this?

01:42:04.020 --> 01:42:04.760
The whole thing.

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It won't happen. It could happen. It won't happen. So let's go to my number two. Iron Maiden, Number of the Beast. Puke. Iron Maiden, Power Slave. Close enough. Iron Maiden, Peace of Mind. Oh, man. Though I considered Number of the Beast. I was going to do a slash. I actually got Number of the Beast first, and I was like, no, Peace of Mind is really my go-to Maiden album. No, but you've got to do a song, don't remember. Oh, we're doing We're Back to Registering Records? Yes. Okay, sorry. I missed that.

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Well, then, wow, that's so good that I chose the title track stuff about those hooks. All right, man, last one. I bet George and I have this in common. You know what? I bet we're all on the same side here. Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath. Buke? Not even close. Pantera. Okay, you have a metal edge who you want to mold, okay? You want accessible. You want something that the catalog is not going to change a lot.

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Because looking back on it, please do not crucify me for this statement. Okay? Hold on. Let me get my stakes. Is Black Sabbath really that good? Looking back on it, it only created heavy metal. I know it did. I'm not taking that away from it. But is it that good? Let me comment on that when I get to mine. Okay. My number one, vulgar display of power. It is panther. You have to. You can't start. That's fine.

01:43:34.620 --> 01:43:35.820
I said that earlier.

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He's looking at me like,

01:43:38.560 --> 01:43:40.420
why did you just shut up my number one?

01:43:42.020 --> 01:43:44.900
You think you want something that's as catchy?

01:43:45.640 --> 01:43:47.880
I only said that earlier to bust your balls.

01:43:48.020 --> 01:43:48.160
I know.

01:43:48.540 --> 01:43:48.740
I know.

01:43:49.540 --> 01:43:50.680
Because you knew I was probably going to say that.

01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:53.280
Well, I wasn't sure, but that's where you started.

01:43:54.060 --> 01:43:54.280
It is.

01:43:55.560 --> 01:43:57.740
Even though my gateway was reinventing the steel,

01:43:58.220 --> 01:44:00.720
but vulgar display of power is...

01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:01.400
Oh, it is.

01:44:01.440 --> 01:44:03.000
It is definitely a good place to start.

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And probably was for a lot of people. I'm sure. My number one is also Black Sabbath. Okay. However, I considered Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath. I mean, that's the obvious choice. And that's immediately where my mind went to. But then I was like, let me look at the song list. And I'm like, all right, well, yeah, there's a lot of good songs on there. But for a brand noob, I was like, I think I'm going to go Paranoid. Because it's got Paranoid, it's got Iron Man, you know, it's a little more accessible, I think.

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And that's the only reason. While I think Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath is certainly the beginning point and a great place to start, if I'm trying to snag somebody, I want to go Paranoid. Fair enough. And probably the reason I go with the first one, though, is that first fucking song. That is the foundation of the metal right there. But I agree with you. You could choose more holistically appealing records, for sure. And it would have been a Sabbath record either way for me. But that first song is enough to get you started.

01:45:02.440 --> 01:45:32.400
had the same band for all of them except for Bukes number one is pretty cool that's got to be the closest we've ever come as a group because you know we know in all time albums of you know we know in a list of all time albums Rain and Blood you know it's on every single list but do you start somebody with that that's it's something you got to work up to I think you know I do too it's like if you go too heavy people are gonna go hmm I even thought that maybe you know thinking about this list last night even doing um would

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Maybe, and this may be unpopular with some people, would maybe starting with Heaven and Hell be a better Sabbath album to start with? Yeah, that's it. Maybe trying to really ease them in? I considered it. Yeah. I considered going one death metal record, but in the end, I just had to go with... It's hard. You can't start somebody with death. No, I mean, people do. We've met a few younger people. That's where they started. But if you want a higher likelihood,

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of them actually getting on board. You've got to start them with something a little more foundational. That's why I went with Pantera, because you look at the fans. Yeah. To be sure. They're, you know... Idiots. I'm just joking. But it's like... No, it's called Extreme Metal for a reason, dude. You can't start somebody there. Yeah. All right. Well, what are we listening to?

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My list is pretty short. I'm just going to say two titles because I'm listening to everything I mention every week. The two new ones that I've added to my list right now are Winter Horde, The Maestro. I'm really into this record. It's a little bit of a lighter version of

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It's a flesh god apocalypse record

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and I don't mean lighter like less heavy

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it's just maybe not quite as deep

01:47:07.460 --> 01:47:08.440
but it's really good

01:47:08.620 --> 01:47:09.740
it's a really good story

01:47:10.520 --> 01:47:11.020
really dramatic

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so I would really recommend that

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I ordered the vinyl

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I think George did too

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limited to 50 pieces

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out of Israel

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it's banned from Israel by the way

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so I fucking love this record

01:47:20.180 --> 01:47:21.600
second I've gotten strangely

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into the new moon sorrow record

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it's called

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I give you credit

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for trying to pronounce that

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there's no way

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Finnish words are the worst

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They're cool.

01:47:34.240 --> 01:47:36.260
I'm not saying they're bad, but I just can't pronounce them.

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I got the song titles up there, Jay.

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Is it all not in English?

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No, they never do English.

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Yeah, but it's a real interesting record, dude.

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You might be able to spin, dude, just to see what you think of it.

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But it kind of got in my craw, and I'm digging it.

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I got Moonsurro confused with Moonspell.

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Moonspell.

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Yeah, that's why I said that.

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All right, puke.

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I have a couple.

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I want to give props to my friend across from me, my best man.

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I want to say, George, you were right.

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on some albums you recommended. Sweet. I texted you and told you this, but I want to get it on air. The Zenus Pathage, Passage, Solo. Solipsist. Yeah, Solipsist. Right up my alley. It's awesome. Destroyers of All Black Fragments. Awesome album. Bleak Fragments. That's right. Yes, Bleak Fragments. Now, ones I've been listening to that I found the new Abnormality album, Mechanisms of Omniscience.

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came out a technical death band really cool uh an album that came out last year but

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disincarnate and it's and so it came to pass i assume this is not the same disincarnate as uh the james

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murphy band from the 90s oh that's with a y okay yes with a y d y s not e i s um and i found it uh i don't know

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How This One Miss Me for a release. But Avantasia has a new album, Ghost Lights, that I've been listening to. Sweet. Little Tobias. Mm-hmm. Oh, one more thing. Counter World Experience from Pulsar. Yeah. It's a jazz-infused instrumental metal supergroup. Yeah. It's blowing me away. I listened to that after you posted that, and I wish it was on Bandcamp, because I really want to get the flack for it. It's cool, isn't it? Yeah, it's cool. Perfect headphone listen. That was the first one I listened to when I growled.

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arrived. Nice. So that's what I have been listening to. Right on. I've got a short list for you this week. Only looks like eight albums. First one I got from our buddy John. This one is the band Abyss with an E at the end. A-B-Y-S-S-E. And I Am The Wolf. This is an instrumental band. You know, instrumental metal. It's cool. Next up, of course, All Father just came out this week with Bless The Earth With Fire. I picked that up on Bandcamp. As well as their previous,

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No God, No Masters. The next one is a band I hadn't heard before, but I found them on Bandcamp. I guess they're called Do, D-O, but the O has umlauts, like the O on the motorhead, and their album Tuho. I believe they are a Finnish sort of doom with just like a hint of stoner. It's not like all retro sounding. It's more on the heavy end of doom. I just got that yesterday, but yeah, it's cool. I like it.

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Yeah, so this next one is a band that we got the promo for. I don't know exactly when it's coming out yet. It probably isn't out yet. They're a Greek band called Scar of the Sun, and this is their second album, In Flood. Their first album I reviewed, I mean, it had to be like five, six years ago. I'll remember that, yep. A Series of Unfortunate Concurrencies. Yeah. 2011. Yeah, okay, yeah, it was like five years ago. Yep.

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It was

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And so

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I always wondered

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What happened to these guys

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And finally

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They were releasing a new album

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And I listened to it

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And it's really pretty cool

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It reminds me of like

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Draconian Times era

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Paradise Lost

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It's maybe a little more accessible

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There you go

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But it's definitely

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A cool listen

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So you should definitely

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Check these guys out

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Because I'm sure

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They could use your support

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My next one

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I picked this up

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The other day on Bandcamp

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Thanks to the recommendation

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of our friend Will. This is Slaves BC and All Is Dust and I Am Nothing. This next one is one that I picked up after a recommendation from listener Rick. This is a sort of a compilation, not a compilation, but a split with like four different bands and each of them contribute a song. All of them, the pronunciation is who knows, but first band is Volon, second band is Shatan, third

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The fourth band is Kalathon. The EP is called Desert Dances and Serpent Sermons. All of these bands that are on this release are part of the Black Twilight Circle out in California, which is sort of this like, it's not really a gang, it's more of a cult. It's sort of like Black Circle from the Norwegian black metal scene.

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All the people in the scene were part of this group called the Black Circle. And that's what these guys are. They're the Black Twilight Circle. So apparently they're fucking evil. I think that's what we're supposed to take away from that, is that they're a bunch of evil dudes. Real, you know, true cult with the Vs in there. So regardless, the music is pretty cool. And so I picked it up. And finally, I also have been listening to the shit out of the new Winter Horde album, Maestro. Oh, and also the new Wretched End, which we already talked about.

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I'm really excited to get that vinyl. I have a feeling it's going to be a cool package and it just feels like such an exclusive little club. Yeah. Anything under 100 is like, ooh. Yeah. Nice to have. It's a good record. And we want to give a shout out to our buddy Trevor in Ashen Horde who just about a week ago put up a Kickstarter to fund a vinyl version of his latest album, Nine Plagues. So if you're interested in picking up the vinyl version of this album

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And I know you are because we played him on here and you know he's fucking awesome. So head over to Kickstarter and back it, man. Yeah, here's your chance. Yep. All right, let's move on to our classic album. Okay, I prefer the Metal Blade era of this band. I've probably mentioned that before. Slayer, Shona Mercy. I love that record, dude.

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I like all the first three. Sweet. Haunting the Chapel. Shown the Mercy, Haunting the Chapel, Holloway. It's one of my favorites. But Shown the Mercy is great. It's got some great songs on it. I'm not going to elaborate. All right. That's all you're going to say on the matter? That's all I'm going to say on the matter. Well, I will say this. When Kill a Ball, that was everybody's favorite record, this was my favorite record. I was more of a Slayer guy than a Metallica guy. Oh, yeah. All right. Beautiful. Listening to death metal like I like to do and knowing we had a Swedish guest on today, I dove in

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to early Swedish death metal. And I listened to

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the album

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Forever Laid to Rest.

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Came out in 92 by the band

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Seance. Wow.

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Early death metal album.

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I've heard of them, but I can't say

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I've listened to them any time recently.

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So I thought it was pretty

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cool. Excellent.

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Well, my classic this week is actually

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also a death metal album, and it is

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Like the death metal album as far as I'm concerned. If you were to play off of our top three list, if you were to say, I want to get, I like metal, but I want to get into death metal. Where should I start? I would start them with this album. And that is Cannibal Corpse and Vile. Fucking killer album as far as I'm concerned. And the death metal gold standard by which I measure everything else. Cool. Amazing album. Fine choice. Devoured by Vermin, Mummified and Barbed Wire. Orgasm to torture. Yep. Oh man.

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Heaten from Inside. Relentless Beating. That's a pretty good album. Alright, let's move on to Vinyl Purchases. I didn't get a lot. I did get the reissue of Abigail. I didn't have that yet for some reason, so I got that. I got the Trypticon reissue of their first record.

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which I was thrilled to have because that's really hard to find anymore. So I got that. And I got a little food tray slash boat anchor called Shamash. Indeed. I got that in the mail. I'm just not thrilled about it. But that was it. That was all the vinyl I picked up this week. You need to find out what the return policy is. I do. At least I got a white t-shirt from Death Fest out of it. Puke. Anything else?

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It takes a ecstasy. Cool. That's it? Yep. All right. I had a plentiful week. I got the first Dodd-Heimsgaard album, which I don't know if I can pronounce it, but phonetically speaking, it's Cronet Till Congi. Sure. Why not? I also got the first post-David Wayne Metal Church album, Blessing in Disguise, which was pretty much the last Metal Church album that I cared about. Although I got to say the new album is not bad.

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They're coming in July. I think I'm going to go see them. Yeah, I saw them on actually The Blessing in Disguise. No, wait, maybe it was Human Factor. All I know is I saw them with Mike on vocals. They were on the Operation Rock and Roll tour with Alice Cooper, Motorhead, Dangerous Toys, and somebody else. But yeah, it was good. Next up, I had to get it. The latest Al Jorgensen, Surgical Meth Machine. Such a cool album. I have to

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I'd expect that Buke would be like, what the fuck is this? But I fucking love Al, so it's a good album. Thanks to Jay, I picked up the new Flesh God Apocalypse album, King Unvinyl. I'd been looking for it, and it just wasn't out on vinyl when the album actually released, so he let me know that that is now available, and I picked it up. I also got it from a weird... Where did you get yours from? I forgot. I believe it was Amazon. Oh, was it? Okay, because mine was like from Barnes & Noble or something. It's an obscure site. You may have to dig the dark web to find it, Jay.

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I also got the new

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bloodbath release the Vakken carnage

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it's not hard to get

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I have a daughter

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just you wait sir

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just you wait

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I also got the Shamash triangle triple

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vinyl

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but at least I also got

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the first Shamash album

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Sick Lucy at Lux

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so that kind of balances out a little bit

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I also got the first Falconer album, the self-titled Falconer.

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Nice.

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And finally I got Guar Scumdogs of the Universe as Bukes starts crying.

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That was a Record Store Day 2 thing, right?

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It was.

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And that's one of my fucking...

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But I ordered it online and it came like instantly from Germany.

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Is it too late for Bukes to get a copy?

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No, not at all.

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He just hasn't done it yet.

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So this is your wake-up call.

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Go order it.

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I know. Yeah. Yeah. Get on it. All right. Deep tracks. Um, I probably mentioned on the pod before I've got this underwater iPod that I use that I get to swim with now. And I've been just putting in single track. It's a shuffle. Do you listen to underwater love by faith? No more. Actually I do choose water themed music sometimes, but I almost always throw a couple of maiden tracks on there, old, new, whatever. And when this one came up the other day while I was swimming and I'd forgotten, no, I don't think I'd forgotten.

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I don't know how good the song was, but I remembered how good it was, and that is Infinite Dreams by Iron Maiden. Oh, yeah. Goddamn, that's a fucking good song. That is one of the best. It's sort of the revelations of Seventh Son, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, totally. It's a good song. I love that song. And not off-dimensioned. You know, it was kind of late in the Bruce early era, so I don't think people paid quite as much attention to that record and stuff, and that's a song and a record worth checking out, by the way. Seventh Son is just fucking killer. What do you got? And it's kind of mellow, and it builds. This album came on? It's super

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Yeah, go ahead,

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this album came on when I was playing games the other day,

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and I just let my collection play.

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Halloween,

01:59:59.060 --> 02:00:00.860
Keeper of the Seven Keys Part 2.

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So I'm really going obscure and obscure.

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Track 7, March of Time.

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It's going to be so deep,

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everyone's like,

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if it's not I want out,

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then it is obscure.

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Yeah, I stopped listening to Halloween

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after Keeper Part 1.

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Really?

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Yeah.

02:00:16.380 --> 02:00:16.840
Yeah, me too.

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You guys don't like Part 2 more?

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I never listened to it.

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I listened to a little bit, but it was just sort of, I don't know, I just lost interest to, like George. Yeah. Already. Already, Buke, thanks for showing up. Thanks for talking nonsense. That's why I love the deep track. Sometimes it's so deep that... It's too deep. It's too deep. That was the definition of you. Well done. Sometimes it's so deep, it's a death knell for the podcast. That's right. That's right. So, not long ago, I went to

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to go see Amon Amarth and Entombed, AD, and Ex Mortis with... Oh, really? Thanks for the invite. Yeah, we invited you. With Will and John, and if you listened to the last episode, then you heard probably our post-mortem on the show. So, Entombed is the band of which we are speaking this week, and I was kind of disappointed that they only played one song from Wolverine Blues, because my favorite song from Wolverine Blues,

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is one that I never hear about and that is the song full of hell that song that is like a song about me you know how that is they're about you but yeah I just fucking I love that song I'm full of hell so there you go all right here we are at the end of the episode we hope you enjoyed yourselves I hope you'll come back and listen to us again before we go please make sure to check us out on SoundCloud check us out on Facebook we're on Twitter I am Disciple OV Metal

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I'm at opethfan and jay's at catatonicj. Please do us a favor tell a friend that's how we get you know we spread this pod tell everyone you know about us please spread us like a venereal disease. You can also check us out on Instagram we're on YouTube we're on Stitcher and of course you can find us on wearemetalheads.com. Last time I mentioned that you should look us up on Bandcamp I am on there as

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Metalheads George. Last time Buke said that he's on there as Opeth, but that is not where you will find him. I'm not? That's my username? That's not what you search and find you on. What? Nope. You're actually on there as Buke. What are you talking about? Maybe it's your login and not your username. Probably. The podcast. Yep. Yep. You're on there as Buke. Okay. I get what you're saying. If you roll over it, it says bandcamp.com slash Opeth.

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But if you search on opeth you do not come up

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If you search on buke you come up

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So b-u-k-e buke

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If you're looking for buke on Bandcamp that's how you find them

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And this way you can see like our collections

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What's on our wish list

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What you know we may be looking for what we're listening to

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Yeah and it'll probably give you a little bit of a sneak peek

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At what might be coming up on what we're listening to

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Because that's usually where the stuff ends up

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On our collection or wish list

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Before it ends up on the podcast

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And you know, you can share stuff with us or whatever. Jay is antisocial. He refuses to come on under his name where you can find him. Actually, I'm just vowing to myself right now to change that because I always buy as a guest there. But it saved my history. So I'll get on. I'll get on. Do it. Next week, I'll have a call signed. Yeah. See, I secretly believe that Jay, his band camp is full of like Justin Bieber and shit. And that's why he won't let us see what's on there.

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That's right. Prince, Prince from start to finish. That's all right. I can get behind that. All right. So here we are at the end. And hopefully we're going to do one more episode before Maryland Death Fest. I've got somebody lined up, but I'm not going to tell you who it is yet. I have someone lined up too. Hopefully that will work out and we can get him in the studio in a couple of weeks. And then after that, it's Death Fest. So yeah.

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Well, we're trying to hit 50 on Death Fest. Yeah, when Jay's here, we want to do episode 50. Yeah, so it'd be cool. We're going to try for it. Yep. All right, we'll see you next time. Metal!