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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, metal's my religion, and yeah, it's my dope. Standing in the thunder on stage in the pouring metal rain. What a feeling, baby, the lights are exploding.

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Hello and welcome to the Metalheads Podcast. My name is George.

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This is Buke. This is Jake. This is John. And we are joined today by Joel Violet of Thrasenblatt. Hello, Joel. Hey, how's it going? Pretty good. Thanks for coming on again. I think you're technically our first repeat guest. Jeez, what an honor. Well, thanks for having me. Yeah, I mean, technically we had Matt Barlow on twice, but the second time wasn't, it was just an interview at a show. So that's how much we think of you to have you back again. That's pretty good company to be in. Holy frick.

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in July. And so I thought I'd start off by saying what you've been up to since last July. Well, plenty trying to finish up, I guess, successfully finishing up the new Thrustmite album. Yeah. Yeah, because when we talked to you last, Joel, it was imminent. It was imminent, but it was also kind of up in the air as to when things would be finalized and really, you know, in people's hands. Talk to us about how, you know, middle to the end of last year to this year played out.

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in the world of Thrust and Blut and when things really were finalized. Sure, yeah. That album was definitely persistently imminent. And it was, man. Just the way it worked, it kind of ends up being a bit of a slow process having, I guess, the entire process be across North America. I think George can tell you exactly how long it took, by the way. Well, it was funny because you'd post a little teaser on Facebook. You'd be like, hey, news coming.

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And we're like, my friend Josh in Michigan is also a big fan. And he'd like text me and be like, I'm not crazy, right? He never followed that up, right? Just creating some mystery, I guess. Definitely. Also just, you know, having, oh, you know what? This is going to happen really soon. Better post about it. And then just something will just, the wheel will fall off of something and then it won't come. But so it just ended up being lots of, basically we were going to release that I think in March. But then we put together a little bit of a podcast.

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with Broken Limbs recordings to do vinyl of the album. And so the reason that also one of the things with that was that then we wanted to release the album on CD as close as we could to vinyl. So vinyl wouldn't have been happening until late summer, early fall. So we wanted to push the CD back till June to kind of make it more, I guess, a closer release date. And so we just kind of sat there for a few months, just kind of burning a hole in, you know, whatever, my pocket or whatever, everyone's collective anticipation.

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But yeah, that's why it went out in June. Go ahead, Jay. I'm sorry. I was only going to say that was so much less exciting than I hoped. I thought it would just be like I was lost in the wilderness and blah, blah, blah. It was just like, yeah, we were going to do it in March, but we didn't. Now that we hear that, you know, George's heart rate, we were just talking about that before he came on was plus what, 150 the whole time, George? Yeah, I'm down to 103 now. Coming down, coming down. Now that you're talking with Joel, you're like, okay, I can calm down now. It's good. We're all on. Everybody's

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We can see everybody. So, Joel, you know, I butcher words on this podcast. Mercilessly. All the conversations you and I have had, I've always just referred to the new album as the new album. For those people listening, give us the name again of the new album and tell us a little bit about that. The name is just the new Thrasenblatt album. That's what we'll go with. So it's Metathonia is one way to pronounce it. Or you can also just pronounce it Metathonia.

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The CH in there, it's kind of optional. I had to explain Throssenblatt to my parents yesterday. They asked me who we were interviewing, and I was like, you know, Joel from Throssenblatt, and they're like, what? Remember when Joel first came on, we're like, how do you say your last name? Is it Violetta? I thought about introducing him that way just because we did that last time, but I thought that'd be kind of a dick move. So it's pretty much man with unpronounceable last name from unpronounceable band and unpronounceable album.

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That guy Joel from Canada, right? Yeah. So the name, what's that mean? What's it come from? So it's an ancient Greek word, I guess. I don't think there's actually precedent for it in ancient Greek, but it's just one of those ones that you can build from two words, like all those fancy words we have nowadays. So you're the word chthonic, C-H-T-H-O-N-I-C. Yeah, they're a cool band from Taiwan. Sure. Cool, yeah. So that's a Greek word that means like from the earth or like of the earth.

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And the meta on the front just means after. So it's kind of this idea I had of this sort of age that we live in now, which is kind of after the age of the earth, because we're kind of all in these, I guess, bubbles that we kind of isolate ourselves from the outdoors and from nature. And we don't want to be wet. We don't want to be wet. We don't have to be. We don't want to be cold. We don't have to be. That sort of thing. And so

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is kind of what I ended up with. You coined a term. It's one thing to be in a band to write your own music and stuff like that, but tend on top of that to come up with your own words. Adding to the English language. Yeah, adding to the English language. You know, we did that with Buk-Aki. Yeah, Buk does that every day. Most people who do that are teeny boppers texting or me. Twerkers. Like, what was the term I said when I loved an album before? It was a word I used. Oh, man.

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I can't remember. There's been so many. There was one too about

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George. George was a big influence on you but you used the word wrong. I can't remember what it was. Joel, can you talk about the name of the band

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though too because I think there's kind of interesting story there and I don't know if you've told enough. We did it on the last one but go ahead and do it again.

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Go over the story again then? Sure, why not? See if I can remember

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the same thing I told last time. Oh, that's good.

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We've got more listeners than we did last time. Great stuff.

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So basically, we were looking for Dave Gold and I when we were looking for a band name for this project. So David asked if I wanted him to drama my demos. It just kind of blew my mind. So the next thing was to come up with a name for it. Yeah, and we threw a few things back and forth and nothing really stuck. And then all of a sudden I got this great big email and he's like, what if we call it Thrasenblatt? And I was like, what's that? And he's like, it's like this like huge Germanic dude, you know, just saying Thrasenblatt. He's like, oh, Thrasenblatt. That's so good.

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That's so perfect. I love that story. That's a good story. Okay, so let's get back to Metathonia. Metathonia, there we go. I know, see? I knew. I practiced all the time. So I wanted to know, when it came time to write the lyrics for this album, were you having some sort of personal crisis or a spiritual dilemma or perhaps awakening? It's a pretty intense and deep album. All three of those, for sure, 100%.

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Well, it's just one of those things. When you have an album that you want to put out or music that you want to put out, for me at least, I want to say something with it and solve some sort of problem. And it's not just, you know, putting out lyrics like, hey, we're in the forest and it's fucking awesome. Like, sweet. You know, like, what happens then? So you got to say something. And so it ends up being in this sort of, you know, kind of a headspace that I really enjoy. Kind of like the nature of the folk metal, black metal kind of thing.

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and trying to figure out a lot of different things in that sort of world. And so I just kind of went with all the issues that I was grappling with at that point in my life and trying to find solutions for them and trying to turn it into a cohesive thing that I could make as an album. I've always wondered this with the music you write and the themes and stuff. Do you spend a lot of time outside? Oh yeah. Are you a big camper?

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You like BMX? Sorry, like mountain biking, hiking. What's your outdoor activity you like doing being one with nature? What's your poison? So it ends up being, I haven't done too much camping recently, but it's mostly lots of hiking. I like trail running and also cross-country skiing in the winter. Pretty much anything being outdoors. In New Brunswick, it's not difficult to find outdoors to be in. Speaking about being in the outdoors, God, on a sad note, you know,

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Your fellow countrymen and women, that sad Fort McMurray fire. Wasn't that just horrific watching that? Oh, it was insane. Absolutely insane. I remember footage, and look, you know how we always watch these apocalypse movies, you know, like Day After Tomorrow, whatever it is, something like that, where, you know, they use all these special effects as they're driving down the road and there's flames all around you. I was seeing videos of that happening with families trying to escape this forest fire. Absolutely sad. And I,

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Imagine if the new Throssim plot wasn't done by then, maybe a song or two would have been about that. It's just tragic watching that. It was insane. I'm sure you guys saw the same footage that I saw, but also what kind of added to it for me was that, so you probably remember from the second album, what we did was we did that big fundraiser to fund it. A couple of our, actually three or four, so we had various levels of ambition, I guess, for our fundraiser. So we just, you know, CD, a t-shirt, and then we did CD t-shirt and something else.

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and a couple of them were pretty high up there. One of them was the guitar I used on tour with Woods. No one's going to buy it. Here, take my kidney. Yeah, exactly. You're talking very casually about something George would actually kill somebody to have. Nobody wants this. I should probably... Sorry, what were you going to say? I was going to say I should probably pull my Woods shrine into camera so you can see that at some point. I've got a little

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A little shadow box that has a signed copy of Second Woods album that David signed. A pink logo bumper sticker that, according to the back of it, he signed the back of it and said this was one of a kind. And then I've got the envelope that all this stuff was sent in with his address and everything on there and the two, and it's all in this. And it's sealed with a kiss. Yes, well. Anyway, I was just like, yeah, that's the coolest thing ever. Okay, so you were saying about?

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Yeah, you were saying. Backers. Yeah, and so now we have a little, even some, George will be even more invested in this now when I tell you this next bit. So I forget what the price was. It wasn't anything crazy, but it was something that I was thinking, well, this will basically, this will pay for about half the album, but no one's going to buy it, but I'll just put it there, just, you know, ambition, blah, blah, blah. And then I launched the Kickstarter, and then I woke up the next morning, and it was gone instantly. Wow. Yeah, fantastic guy who actually lives in Fort McMurray. Oh, man. And who has one of,

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I got the idea from David who had sold one of his Gibsons in one of these sort of things to raise money. People buy anything. Yeah. And so, well, in Fort McMurray, there's a lot of, it's famous in Canada, at least for being, there's being a lot, a lot of money there for, yeah, lots of jobs with lots of money in them just because of isolation and difficulty, that sort of thing. So some of these guys up there, there's a few of them that are Thrasymlet fans and so they didn't mind helping us out on the album. So they're up there. There's three of these guys in Fort McMurray.

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I was in Fort McMurray during the fires here. And so I kind of first thing when I saw the Fort McMurray news, I was just like found them on Facebook and asked them, you know, you guys like all right? Like, how are you doing? And they're super generous guys and great fellows. So I was glad to hear that they're all right. But one of them, actually, I haven't heard from him. I haven't actually heard back from him since because I never asked again. But he said that he was in Calgary at that point or on the way to Calgary just having accepted. Sorry to interrupt you real quick. If you guys

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I just hear crying in the background. That's my two-year-old. Sorry about that, Joel. Sorry, listeners. Okay, go ahead. She all right? She's fine. She's just being a toddler. His wife is there, too. Joel was offering. Yeah, but nevertheless, you were saying. Oh, anyway, and she said that he already accepted that his house might get burnt down. Jeez, that's something to accept. But that he was safe and his family was safe. How about the guitar? Yeah, and so anyway, so when I was mentioning this stuff,

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to this guy. I mentioned, sorry, one of the titles of the new album is called Fires That Light the Earth. I wrote this before this all happened, just so you know. Just so you know, I'm not trying to dig at you here. Cashing in on your... Have you seen any follow-up stuff there? I was in Yellowstone years back, and I hiked through Yellowstone. The areas that were when the forest fire hit in the 80s, you could still see. It's still a sports earth there.

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There's a little growth at the ground level, but all the trees are still burnt out. How is that area now? Still just unavoidable now? I haven't looked. I haven't checked. I got it, though. Thanks for reminding me. I'm going to message these guys as soon as this is done here and see what's up. You said it's real isolated. How far removed from you is it? Oh, for me, it's insane how far it is. I think England might be closer to me than Alberta is. It's isolated just in terms of it's up north in Alberta, so it's

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It's probably, I don't know, a couple hours away from the north, like Calgary, I think. And so it, yeah. And in the winter, it gets cold. So, you know, for what it's worth, we really do like to, and I'm not joking here, we like to get a little, you know, geography lesson when we talk to people who aren't in America. You know, we had some guys from South Africa a while back. So, trust me, we're all over here Googling, looking at your town to see what it looks like. That's great. We have a listener, Greg, who is from Fredericton. Really? In fact, we were trying to get him on today to be like, Greg, Joel, Joel, Greg.

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Greg is his name? Yeah. I think I've met Greg. Yeah. I thought he said he might have gone to like an Oak Ash and Thorne show or something. Yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah, he's been to a couple. Yeah. You had mentioned it there with that last question. Fires that light the earth. That starts off the album. And I have to ask you, how did you have a voice left for hours or days after you did that intro scream that you do with that? I love it.

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That's what hooked me right on the album. I like when guys, of course, scream in the middle. We all do. But you take it a step further with that one. That's letting your listeners have it. You know? Do you do anything to, you know, do you have a style so that you don't rip your vocal cords out? Well, I think my secret, actually. Someone that I work with asked me this question. Because I think he came to one of my, like the Oak Ash and Thorne you mentioned. It's just maritime acoustic stuff that I actually sing. He's like, how do you have a voice?

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after recording the heavy metal stuff. The secret is that the only time I ever do that is recording albums. Is that right? She couldn't throw something out for us now? No. You'll have to give me a little... I have to get warmed up for it. Hey George, that was a pretty good Time G Warrior. That was my Celtic Frost. There it is. If you were to take this show live and you were maybe to start the

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set playing fires. Would you have to tweak that? Maybe not make it as long as you do on the album? I would play the whole thing for sure. No, I'm saying like the screams or something that you would do. Would you be able to do that live? I'd probably practice it a couple times and see how far I could go. But I think the adrenaline would get me pretty far into it before I had to let off. Okay. Have you played any of the album live yet? No. Well, no, no. Played just there's a little acoustic bit that Brendan Hader and I did a little acoustic video of.

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That's about it though. Are you going to get out there and do some? I think we got to. We got to try to make it happen because we've got the people and we've got, I think, the bass. People will want to see it live. Last time you were on, my friend Josh reminded me that last time you were on, you said that if enough people bought the album and got into it and stuff, that maybe we would actually see you on tour. I think that's hopefully, that's sort of working out. We just got to get our schedules matched up and maybe 2017.

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of you kind of things kind of have a momentum of their own and things kind of line up. Sometimes they're not lining up. And I think things are sort of converging now for playing live. So it's looking good. I want to do it. So it's just a matter of getting everybody schedules free at the same time and that sort of stuff. You know, since you have such a big extended musical family at this point, I hope it's not insulting if I ask you this. When are we going to see another Immortal Bird record, man? Oh, geez. Actually, I don't even know that answer. You don't? Okay. More importantly.

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Ray was writing though. Not more importantly. Obviously Ray's equally as important as Brendan. But what I was going to say is what about an Obsidian Tongue record? He was in studio. He was talking about, I think he's got most of it written, and they're actually recording everything themselves now, which they're really excited about to kind of get the sound they want and be able to get the takes they want and that sort of thing. As in kind of like at home type recording? He knows, well, so he and his, let me try to remember this straight. The gist I got was that they,

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How do you say that? Basically just they've got some at-home stuff but with a good sort of setup that they... Sure. Making sure that they have a good sound of course but being able to kind of do it on their own time and that sort of thing. Is that what you do? Yeah, pretty much but I don't do drums though and the drums are the tough one. Like this guy right here, this is the vocal mic for Thrustling Lett 1, Thrustling Lett 2, Thrustling Lett 3. What is that? Is it a... It's a Rode NT2A. Okay, it looks kind of like my short that I've

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Is there a price tag on that? Yeah, how much do you want to sell that for? It's funny. This little guy, I got quite a spot for it in my heart because I rented it for the first Saw Awesome Blood album. And then two years later, when I wanted to get a mic, it was at the music store that I rented it from. And it was on sale from being, it was the exact same mic. So I bought it right there. And it's still working great. What setup do you use? Do you like programs and things like that?

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So to record, I've used Pro Tools for everything because that's what Siegfried Meyer uses. Sure. But for writing, that sort of thing, I like Logic because it's a little more flexible and there's a lot more. It just kind of gets the creative juices flowing more. That's what we're recording with now. Oh, Logic? Yeah. Nice. Joe, it seems like on this new album, you, and I'm always the worst at trying to describe music. Like having me on a podcast, I know my role. I just bring sometimes the funny, sometimes. Sometimes.

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But trying to describe shit, I'm the worst at it. You're our color man. Yeah. It seems like on this album we really... I don't know if you used that in Canada. I wasn't supposed to do some racist comment. Okay, color commentary then. Color commentary, there you go. I'm the Don Cherry of the Mono Hits podcast. Speaking of Don Cherry, have you guys seen Don Cherry Piano Hands? No. You know when he talks, he does this a lot on the table.

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Blues are really horrible right now. They gotta get... Start chasing the pucks in the corners and his hands are all on the desk. Someone synced that up with someone just slamming on a keyboard every time his hands hit the desk. Just gold. I love that stuff. That's awesome. I love that, Sherry. So it seems like you really, on this album, I think you took the complexity and the pace to a different level. Really showing your, I think, maturity.

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Last album was so immature. No. As an artist here. I know you're kidding. But his experience and growth really shined through with this. And that's why when we did our mid-year list, Joel kept asking, what do you think of the album? Because he and I text back and forth, full disclosure there. But this is not an album that I think on first listen really hits you. Oh, no. With all the little bits that it has. I'm hoping you didn't hear our mid-year episode.

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because I kind of geeked out a little bit on the album. It was my number one at the mid-year, by the way. Oh, shit. I got to listen to that. And I'm like grasping at straws trying to explain this album. They're just laughing at me. That's what I'm trying to do now. I think your album is my number four, but it's such a complex album. And where I was going with this question is now seeing how it turned out and looking back at the process, did you start to notice things that really maybe came about?

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Things Came About? God, this question got a little fucking mixed up. It's like a question within a question within a question. Basically, the complexity of the album, to me, seems different from the previous albums before it. Where did that come from? It's a step into the... Well, let's also say it's a step forward, maybe, if that's... In a band that was already rather complex. Sure. Yeah. No, that's... I think... Okay, so you've... I got the question, and I think there's another... Just unplug my fucking microphone. Inside it with all the other kind of words that you're trying to say. Yes. Just shut up, you know.

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Just keep taking them out of the bucket. Joel, throw the bucket away. How about this one? How about this one? Just go with the first question. Stay there. Yes, it's more complex than the second album. All right, next question. Jesus. You know what I noticed with this album? It seems like there was, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, it seemed like it was a little more of an aggressive approach. There's a lot more pace to the album. Maybe you should just drive. That was much better. Much more succinct.

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And I'm new to you guys, and I've been listening more and more because I agree with them. The new album, it takes a few more listens to kind of just grasp the whole concept of what's going on. It just seems to me between the last two albums that this one's a little more pace-driven. Is that just kind of the natural progression for you guys, or is that something you look to do this time? I think that's just sort of the... I think you're spot on, John. And I think part of the reason we wanted... There's no reason there. Basically,

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That's kind of how the album evolved, I think. So I guess I kept the bucket, John. The bucket's still here. Just to kind of touch on all this stuff, I think that what happened with this album, it just sort of, there's definitely more complexity there. And I think it's a product of the goal that I had when writing it. And the goal ended up being, so I did this little tangent here. I did this little post on the Facebook page saying, like,

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was Throssenblatt song, which sort of ends up being another way to say, I didn't realize this at the time, but I kind of know this now, what's your favorite Throssenblatt song? All the five, yeah, the first five songs were all of the same structure. I noticed, it just kind of struck me that, so there's, like Black Sky was one of them, Once Fire Veined, Bassland, Viva Million Trees. So they're all the same structure, which is that they start in one place, and then they kind of shift to another place for the second half of the song, and they don't return to the first one.

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So I guess, well, if those are the songs people like the most, then why don't I try to do an entire album like that rather than the type of songs which are kind of verse, chorus, verse, bridge, back to the chorus. So you didn't do that? No. That was market research in action. Whoa, jeez, I guess so. I hate words like market research. But you know what? You just did it. I still dropped it on your body. That's great. One of my questions. Oh, sorry, are you done?

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or no? Well, there's a big bucket here of other stuff I can use.

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Okay, keep going.

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Remember, this is a Butte question.

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Okay.

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Let me know and I'll just jump in when you're ready.

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And so, yeah.

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Okay, this is a finite bit though.

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Okay, so just to finish it, it's basically that's what I wanted to do.

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This is the third album and I kind of like numbers and making them fit with music.

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Is instead of doing just start in one place and end in a second, I said, why don't we start in one place, move to a second place,

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and then even move on to a third place.

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That was my question.

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Was that your question?

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Yeah, I was going to say I noticed that each of the songs in the lyrics are broken up into three different sections.

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Yeah, and so that's exactly that.

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And so the whole complexity bit comes into play there where there ends up being kind of 18 different musical ideas kind of explored in the whole thing.

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And whenever I've got a part of a song that I'm looking at and working on, for whatever reason, I just, if I'm not, if I don't think there's enough going on or if it's just not hitting me, then I'll change it to kind of give it more action or more something to kind of, you know, have an impact. And so when you have pretty much 18 songs going on and, you know, a whole bunch of different instruments, I think that there's just kind of an innate level of complexity that just exists there. So that's probably, yeah, that's probably the reason why it ends up being,

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so much complexity.

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Let me ask you this.

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You've got those 18 songs, as it were.

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I'm using ear quotes here, which you can't see in a podcast.

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And you find yourself in a position where you're like,

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okay, I've got, here we are.

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This is portion one of this song, and here's portion two.

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You go through these excruciating moments where like,

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how the hell, what path do I draw to get from this section to that section?

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Does your writing room look like a conspiracy theory guy

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with like red strings leading up to different lyrics and parts of the song. Like chorus A leads to C back to B. Well, I try to, well, there's this one thing I have, I'm just going to grab it for you. There's a great little adornment for the writing room. Let's get it for you. This is awesome. Look at this inside scoop we're getting. If it's a dartboard, I'm going to. Or like a twister.

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a pop it thing.

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There's a huge flea market here in New Brunswick called the Sussex Flea Market.

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And every year, it's like the size of two football fields.

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And just like a thousand vendors come.

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And you just walk through and grab stuff.

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So anyway, I bartered this one off a guy.

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Danger blasting.

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It's all fantastic stuff for a black metal record.

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I had another thing to answer there.

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Oh, the 18 songs.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So it ends up being a thing.

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So there are actually six songs.

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I kind of hesitate to call it 18 sections. Each one of the songs has to kind of follow or just exist in the same place on its own. So it's not just like, oh, here's a song, here's a song, here's a song. Those three are a song. So I kind of listened to it through and if the whole thing flows as one piece, then we're good to go. And you can kind of call it a song. Funny enough, one song just wasn't doing it for me, which was Hypothonic Remnants, the fourth track. And so I was like, you know what, I'm just going to rewrite the first part.

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So I rewrote the first part and then I tried to tack on the other two parts to that and it didn't work so like okay I'll rewrite the second part and then so I had I was like okay now I'll just tack the third part onto that and it didn't work so I was like well I'll rewrite the third part and then all of a sudden I had a brand new song which ended up being Dead of Winter and so out of five songs I had six and that's good so Joe is you know you you know given your description here about writing these songs does that kind of the reason why if you look at what's it say for Wanderer coming in at 12 tracks

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coming in at 6:00?

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That's a good question.

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Yeah.

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Well, so Wanderer is really nifty in that it's in a completely different

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framework than from what Metathonia is.

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Because it ended up being kind of haphazard writing over during a few woods tours,

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that sort of thing.

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They were just sort of different songs that all came from different places.

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And I wondered, how am I going to fit this into a framework?

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And I mentioned the Joseph Campbell's "Heroes Journey" last time, didn't I?

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Yes.

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I believe, yes.

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And so each one of those songs ends up being a point on the plot of the hero's journey. And so they're all different in their own way and they all sort of do a different thing on the album. But to me at least they have kind of the back. They all have the same. They all share a context on the map of the hero's journey. So it's all. You know, the backbone of that album then is also the same backbone of Star Wars. Yeah. Like it's known that he used that Joseph Campbell's not theories but.

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Yeah. His work. Let's call it his work. So there aren't any songs on the new album that are anything like Goose River or Maritime Shores, even though there are parts that sort of go in that direction, but there's not dedicated songs. Is there a reason for that? My wildly speculative and probably incorrect guess was maybe you're sort of exercising that muscle with Oak Ash and Thorn, and maybe talk a little bit about what that is for people. Wildly speculative and correct. Woohoo! Man! Nailed it! Jeez!

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Yeah, that's definitely where... You and your smart questions. Jesus. Hey, George, I think it's time for you to change your handle to Throssenblot fan. Disciple of Throssen. Speaking of which, I love the whole Throssen vocabulary. You can have a Throssen cup and a Throssen hat. I love how people do that. Oh, I love that. I think you... And we are vaguely picking on him here, but seriously, when George was trying to describe the album,

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When we were at our half and you were number one, he almost had a stroke, dude. You really need to know that. You need to go listen to it. It's such a... Just like I said, we all love the album. And especially, never ask me. You know how you put stickers on CDs and stuff like Metal Hammer, you know, a quick sentence is good. Don't even put mine on the fucking website. Use George's quotes. Yeah, well, I was having a... My quote would be like, Joel, guitar.

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That would be it. Yeah. I was having a difficult time because, like, my first couple listens through the album, I just listened. I was like, I didn't want to get bogged down in trying to go through the lyrics. I just wanted a very organic, like, put them on, close my eyes, and listen. And it was vastly different going through it with the lyrics because with a lot of extreme metal, we don't really pay attention to a lot of the lyrics because, frankly, a lot of them are dumb. And it's more about the aggression and the rhythmic patterns and things like that that make

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make those songs so cool. And I was trying to express that you can't do that. I mean, you can do that with this album, but you really shouldn't. You really got to, you know, whip out the lyric sheet and follow along. And like, I had my mind blown by it because like, this is so cool. You know, that's when it really hits you that night, George. You remember after Joel had sent me the promo and I was listening to it and you're like, hey, you know, thanks for the promo. And you're like, can you send me over the lyrics? And then you said, you know, you spent that one whole night or something just listening to the lyrics over and over again.

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I think that's when it really took it to a different level. Oh, it did. It did. I'm like, you know, it's one thing to just listen to it. It's fine on that level if that's what you want to do. But it's there's so much to get out of these lyrics. And, you know, it's something that really resonated with me. The whole, you know, we all spend too much time looking at phones and computers and not enough time outside and enjoying nature and forgetting our roots and where we came from and how this electric age has only been like the last hundred years.

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But millions of years before that, there was no such thing. And we got by just fine using the stars and whatever. And it was just, you know, I'm heading down that road again, aren't I? I'm going to. Yeah. That sentence that you just said there, starting with, you know, cell phones and all that sort of thing. That's exactly what I just wanted to say out loud. But you can't say that on an album. Like, you can't say cell phones. You can't say computers, you know? Diodes. Yeah. And so, yeah. And so, yeah, that's, well, I'm so glad that the lyrics resonated with you. Oh, yeah. My friend Josh as well.

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I'm a huge fan as well. And I think I just wanted to mention that because we were like geeking out on the phone, going back and forth, talking about it. And yeah, definitely very cool. I have to ask, Joe, did you have to take a step back and maybe wonder if you would possibly scare off or maybe turn off some listeners with how complex this is? Because, you know, me being the Opeth fan on Twitter, follow me.

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is complex, but they're easy complex. The chorus, it goes... Their song structure to me is very easy to get into. I think that's why they're so popular. The way I would phrase it is it's complex music and lyrics, but also accessible if that's not necessarily what you're looking for. You can just listen to it and be like, that's cool. Or you can go the other way. But where I was going with that with Thross and Blot is that there's complexity to the 10th degree, I think. Do you think that...

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Yeah, well, hey, all right, okay,

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That works

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And if

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You know

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I think that

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One nice thing

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We had going

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Was the

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Production's

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A little bit

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Better

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Than

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Wanderer

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I want to

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Kind of

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Just kind of

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Put yes

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Production is

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Really nice

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On the record

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Oh thanks

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Just to give you

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A compliment

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Yeah

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Siegfried

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Siegfried is a

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Genius that guy

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I don't know how

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He does it

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He works wonders

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I see it's a nice

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Production

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I interrupted

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I just wanted to

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No it's a nice

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Production but also

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Jay

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There's a

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A rawness

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To it

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Still

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It's still black

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The vocals, when he kicks in, some of the screams on the first track, almost like redline the EQ. It's still that raw sound to them there, too. It doesn't have that overproduced metalcore kind of sound. Not at all. Of course not, yeah. Yeah, that's good to hear. But yeah, and so I guess it didn't really, that whole question of whether it would turn people off, etc., didn't really occur to me. And I just wanted to make the, I guess, going with the kind of framework that we made,

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We're trying to make the best album that we can to make the people who helped us put the second album out and who supported us through there to make these people happy with the record too. Market research. We're back to market research. Less about getting them to buy it and more about them being satisfied with something they contribute to. Of course. Of course. Oh, just go for it. Go for it, George. I think this is the first album I've seen where the lyrics actually include a glossary to explain some of the words. Did it really? It hasn't?

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They're just sort of like at the bottom of the lyrics. They're for like me, for the bukes of the world. He went even further than I. I'm like, I don't know what that is. What is that? Well, I included a few Latin and Greek words, and that's the only ones that I talked to. Is the vinyl out, Joel? Nope, it's not out yet. Is there a date at all? Nope, not yet. Just like last time, here we go, asking him for stuff. Nope, not out yet. I'm honest. I'm like, oh, news about that coming soon. Yeah, that was just a nice no.

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It's not. Joel, do you have any guitars that you want to sell? We can really push that vinyl out here for you. You can get that vinyl out pretty quick. There's a guitar I want to sell. It's because I don't use it, but it's not worth very much money. So I don't think it'd be very moral for me to try to, hey, here's Joel V. Let's guitar. Do you want to buy it? It doesn't play very well. It sounded like somebody was handling the vinyl for you guys this time, didn't you say? Yeah, Broken Limbs Recordings. So are they going to take it and run with it? They put the money into it and all that, if you don't mind me asking. Pretty much.

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That sort of thing, yeah. Okay. I get the artwork done already. It's all off our plate. So it's just in their court, in their hands, whichever analogy you want. Have you already designed the liner notes and all that and inside pictures, whatever it is? And also, will it be a single vinyl or is it going to be a double vinyl? Gatefold. Nice. Yeah, double LP. Very cool. And so another thing, keep it hush-hush, podcast listeners. There might be... There might be...

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It's perfectly on three sides of a vinyl. And there's no vinyl that you can create. You're going to etch. There's no vinyl you can create with three sides on it. So we put a little extra something on the fourth side. Another song? Not new material. Okay. Like live? No, it's a cover. He just doesn't want to tell us what it is. That's fine. Yeah. It's not a cover either. Well, it's a cover of one of our own songs. Joel, if I say it's a cover, it's a cover. That's funny. You mentioned. So back to Oak Ash and Thorne.

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That brings me somehow

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We are still pulling from that same bucket

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We're just throwing him in the bucket

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and he's scrambling trying to pull him out

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There's this great festival here in New Brunswick

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It's just the Highland Games

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which I think they have plenty of places

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but we have the New Brunswick Highland Games

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which is just a great festival

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It's all sorts of Scottish stuff

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the heavy events and lots of folk music going on

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and all sorts of beer

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and that sort of stuff

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Anyway, Oak Ash and Thorne played there

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A couple weeks ago. So it's basically just a maritime acoustic folk kind of thing. But it's kind of where I really like Jethro Tull. Oh, let's talk about that. We've got to go back to that. Continue. Okay, so I think some of the Jethro Tull stuff kind of goes more into the acoustic rather than at least where Thorosembody is for the third album. Anyway, long story short, we do a cover of Turn the Page. And so this is where we all got to this point.

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I said it's a cover of a cover but I'm not sure if it sounds more like the cover or if it sounds more like the cover of the cover. Is it the Metallica cover you're talking about? Yeah exactly whether it sounds like Bob Seger or Metallica I don't know but so anyway that's how we got to there with the cover so that brought us back to Okash and Thorne. It's starting to look like your wall with the red. Yeah there we go and so it ends up being kind of yeah like George said it's just sort of an extension of the maritime shores and the goose river sort of thing except more kind of lively and less kind of mournful as

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is a bit.

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And it's kind of something that I can play live around town and different sorts of events and that sort of thing.

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And yeah, so it's really, really fun stuff.

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And we just put out an EP just last September.

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It's just okashthorne.bandcamp.com.

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Do you have those, George?

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I do.

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And would you like to give them your stamp of approval?

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Oh, yeah.

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It's great.

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Go ahead.

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My friend Josh is really into maritime shores, not maritime shores, maritime songs as well.

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And he wanted me to ask you, would you ever do a cover of Stan Rogers? Something like Fisherman's Wharf, Giant, or Barrett's Privateers? Are you familiar with those? Oh my goodness. If I could do them justice, when I'm at a point where I think I can do them justice, I would absolutely love to. Because Stan Rogers is just a legend. What he's done for, or what he did for Canadian music and for maritime music is just, it's just kind of, I don't even want to touch it. But I would love to do a cover of a Stan Rogers tune for sure. So if we're talking about other artists,

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You gotta go back a step and tell me your favorite and I and this is for people who like Jethro Tull like I do too this is the only fair way to ask this question so what are your favorite three Jethro Tull records oh um you're gonna say songs from the wood I feel sure oh yeah that's what I was about to say uh songs from the wood probably let me take a stab at it um minstrel in the gallery that's probably gonna be in the top three yeah okay you can take the third one since I'm writing your list for you yeah well so I think heavy horses will be in there wow okay I mean I don't mean it like that but

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Goodbye horses? Heavy horses. They're horses that are kind of metal. It's difficult for me because, oh, there's, well, geez, I can't even, no, obviously thick as a brick, but you can't really like, that's just such a given. It's like, what are your top three Jeff Littall albums except for thick as a brick? Yeah. Everyone's going to say that one. Yeah. But it's around there, the kind of the 70s, the more folky ones are the ones that really kind of resonated with me that got me into them. You know, a lot of people don't know this, but he's an amazing guitar player.

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Yeah.

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You know, like that, all that intricate acoustic stuff is him. You know what I mean? It's a problem for me too, dude. When I sit down and I start forgetting stuff, then I'm like, no, wait, oh shit, I can't believe I didn't say that, you know, and everything. But those are, I think you're, okay. Yeah, that's a good selection. Actually, I was kind of testing you there, Joel. You are a fan. I'm glad. There's not enough Toll fans out there.

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Yeah, no, what are your three favorites, do you think?

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Probably Minstrel in the Gallery. I actually probably wouldn't say Thick is a Break right away, but I love it. Definitely songs from, probably Songs from the Woods is probably my number one.

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What's the one that beat Metallica? Crest of a Knave. No, it was... Stormwatch, was it? No. It's not Crest of a Knave, George. Yeah, it was. Are you sure? I'm positive because I was watching the Grammys when they lost and I was like, damn you tall! I thought it was Broadsword. George made a death list that day and it was number one on his hit list. Look it up. I am 100% positive. And then believe it or not, Joel, I would probably include something like Benefit because I kind of like to cover all the eras, you know, but anyway.

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I could talk about these guys for hours. And I won't make you do that. Well, just one little last thing on Tull is that... Jethro's Toll, crest of an... I told you. And Justice For All lost a crest. I was going to get an obscure Jethro Toll fact or story here. I want to hear it. Well, basically, it's a quick little one. Is that I knew that I was going to like Thick as a Brick. And I knew I was going to love it. And I hadn't heard it yet. And so I saved it for like three or four years. I didn't touch it. And then last summer, I finally listened to it. And it was just... Wow.

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Bits and Pieces kind of thing, but I never dove into it. It was just unreal how good that is. It's genius, yeah. I save stuff like that, too. I saw him in England do Aqualung, all of it. This was just a few years ago. In a very small town, I was catching the train the next day, my wife and I. We were in the train station, and there he was. First of all, he's like four feet tall. He's not a big man. I did have the courage to just say, hey, that was great, but he was late for his train and stuff.

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The Metalheads Podcast. Yeah. I'm jumping around through my questions here just because either things come up. You know, my flow is not exactly the same as our flow. And also this was... Are you looking at me? No, no, no. There is no flow here. No. I had another Josh question that I was going to try and tack on to the last one, but Jay snuck in between. He wanted to know, was the mention of Hag, Hunter, Stag, and Thunder, was that from the Edinburgh Review or Critical Journal? Like, is that

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Where you like took that from or did you? No, that's nifty. I want to know more about that. Google it. The Edinburgh Review or Critical Journal. Let's just hold on. Just let me Google it. What kind of give me some context there, George, because I don't understand. So you're saying. It's it was like a newspaper or magazine or something that came out in like the 1800s and early 1900s. And apparently there is a mention of Hag, Hunter, Stag and Thunder. That's crazy. And he was. Wow, that's crazy. He was curious if whether that was, you know,

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something you'd read about there or maybe that's something a little more universal i don't know

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jeez that's obscure it is you know what you just this is like the beginning of a horror or

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a science fiction movie because now he's going to go research this and be like that'd be this like guy

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to be like that guy looks just like me you know what i mean some 1800s joel here yeah exactly and the word

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metectonia will be in that too it's first use um so uh i think maybe one of the reasons that they both

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exist is that hag rhymes with stag and hunter kind of runs with thunder and so that's i wanted a line that rhymed um and i wanted kind of four things in that kind of realm it's basically just hag hunter stag and thunder are um those are just ways of um well if you look at all the constellations like all of those things exist in the constellations um yeah back of a t-shirt by the way on the next throes of black t-shirt needs to say those those words on the back of it writing that down yeah that would work joe writing an album like this uh and you know getting to read a complex

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album like this. Have you even started to think about a next album or going forward? Was there anything that maybe you cut or you didn't get to really explore on this album that you want to do for the next? Or with a bar set pretty high now, do you just keep trying to maintain that? Yeah, that's a good question. I definitely, this one, I was able, I was just at a point in my life where I was able just to pour ideas and just like dump all sorts of time and effort into a

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I think I've managed to set up pretty well. And so it has a lot of stuff in it. And part of it, it took like a year and a half to figure out what the album was going to even be about. And that's only it's only then that the album started coming together. And so I'm right now I'm in the same point for Throssenbutt 4. I don't quite know what it's going to be about. I have a lot of ideas that are, of course, different because, yeah, they're different, of course, because the ones for Throssenbutt 3 exists as its own kind of thing.

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and anything near it kind of got done there. And so I want to move on to another thing, of course, because Thrasenblatt 2 and 3 are quite different. So, of course, it just kind of starts with whatever things I'm kind of interested in and thinking about. And so I'm starting to, you know, I got another bucket over there in the other corner of the room. The Thrasenblatt 4 bucket. The Thrasenbucket. The Thrasenbucket. Yes. Yes. Hey, Joe, I've got to see this. You know how in us being Metalhead, we like to put things in genre.

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If you were to say,

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Thrasenblatt is a what?

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Oh, I would have so much fun,

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because the hilarious thing about genres is you can just tag.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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Because you know what the thing is?

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I would not say atmospheric black metal,

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like some people have associated you guys with,

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because atmospheric black metal bands are too simple for me.

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Which means too much reverb.

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Yeah, too much reverb, too much tracks of squawking birds,

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and rain, and wind-blowing trees, and stuff.

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Yeah, I prefer to let other people categorize it. I just didn't know if you ever even thought or how would you would, you know. Oh, I've thought about it and I just give up every time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, go ahead, George. But one thing about genres, though, is that I was part of the Oak Ash and Thorn story. We got to play a little Canada Day festival here in town. And a guy I work with, actually, he came up to me. He's like, hey, you're the guy from Woods. I was like, hey, I work here too. Nice to meet you. Like, yeah, I am. And he's like, how do you play in another band?

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now, like a rock band or anything like that? I was like, kind of. He's like, you guys want to play Canada Day? I was like, okay, all right, great, done. And so I was like, why don't I, I'll send you a link to the, I sent him the EP. When he came back 10 minutes later, he's like, so you guys are like nerd folk metal? And I was like, dude, go with that. That's actually pretty good. Okay, so let's be real though. It's nerd maritime acoustic folk metal. And so we went up for the Highland Games. We had to give a genre. So I went with nerd maritime folk. And so it's, it's perfect.

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because it throws in all sorts of different, just enough differentiation from maritime. Everything is just like maritime Celtic, maritime Celtic at that place. And so it's a good little genre. So like you say, Jay, I think I might run with that for that one. Well, let me tell you this. If I was at Canada Day and I was looking at the descriptions of the bands, I'd be like, we better check these guys out. If it said nerd Canadian, whatever it was you said, I would definitely be like, okay, here's some guys who kind of know their thing. Yeah, we definitely have a stranglehold on the Fredericton market for sure.

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Speaking of Woods, I was noticing part of the theme for Metathonia is the whole electric age and diodes and stuff. And that got me thinking about Woods 5, gray skies and electric light and some of the stuff that was on there that was kind of similar themed, but perhaps not exactly the same theme. Well, it's sort of, I guess, almost a similar description of kind of the modern times, right? Yeah.

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It was a recurring theme on the album that kept coming back.

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Yeah, and so that was David's way. Woods 5 was David's way of attacking modern times and what issues he found, etc. And I guess Metathonia in a way is sort of my way of attacking the same kind of thing.

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Now I have a question for you about something I pulled from the lyrics from Metathonia.

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What are the changes to the world in the seven winters past?

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What's going on in the last seven years? What is he talking about? Well, Canada's won a gold medal in hockey. Yeah. And Sidney Crosby. Exactly. And what else has happened? No. So it goes back to that sentence of yours, George, where you mentioned cell phones and all sorts of stuff. And you said it in the very most... I was like, the iPhone came out like seven years ago. I have a text message from Joel. Hold on. Hold on. And my picture messages are going off. I'm just trying to see how we're at in seven years.

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I wanted to hear it. It goes back to that stuff. Again, it's something when you're writing a heavy metal song where you're kind of looking at nature and kind of trying to be a little odd by it and that sort of thing. You can't say a word like cell phone. You can't say a word like internet. I guess that one specifically kind of refers to a little bit like in the last seven years. What do you use then, Joel? Are you like black voice box or something like that? One way to do it.

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just to skirt the whole term and just talk about everything surrounding it.

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And you kind of end up with a picture of it because of what...

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It's like negative space.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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And so, I mean, just in the last seven years, you can look at just the change in how everybody communicates,

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or even just the change in sort of all the kind of security issues that exist with all of our,

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like the internet and all our devices and that sort of stuff.

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Like, that's things you didn't have to worry about seven years ago.

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And it's only getting kind of, you can only imagine how in seven years from now,

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these same sorts of issues are going to be even more, I don't know, that's just one example. They just kind of have technology and are sort of agreement to be a part of the new way that social media is happening, etc. It's kind of getting more and more, kind of, who knows what it's going to be like in seven years. So just kind of, just watch it, you know. The lyrics to Thross and Blot 6 will blow your fucking mind. So, yeah, it's mostly just kind of, you know, it's things, it's just, I think that's a good thing.

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That little section is mostly just to kind of listen, you know, listener or whatever, whoever I'm addressing, kind of look at it, take a step back from what technology was seven years ago and just kind of watch kind of how it's progressing and just, you know, don't let it take you away too much and just let it, you know, stay safe and have fun. Nicely stated, sir. You could also just say go out and take a walk. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. You know, after listening to the album, I mean, it really does make you

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want to go and take a walk.

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Yes.

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I'll buy that.

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I'll buy that.

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In the woods.

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Yeah.

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And I wanted to, I'm sure you've probably done this, but I got to thinking

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about how, say, I was on a walk and I see this really big tree and I'll be like,

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wow, that's a really big tree.

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And I'll just sit there and get lost in that tree for a while going kind of like, you

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know, how old is that tree?

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How many people have seen this tree?

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You know, did George Washington see this tree?

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Because like, the area we're in, we have a lot of like, you know, American history here.

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There's a sign down the road that says, you know, George Washington stayed here during blah, blah, blah. And it kind of makes me look at things and go, what did that look? What did this area look like when George Washington was here? George, did you ever read War and Peace? God, no. Because that tree scene is in there. Is it really? One of the characters stops and ponders the tree in that fashion. Oh, wow. I used to read it. It's a great book. It's just so long. Not to class this. I didn't mean to class the place up for a minute there. Yeah. I mean, believe me, I'm sure I would probably like it, but it's a long book.

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Well, you just wrote part of it, so nicely done. Take that, Tolstoy. All right, well, does anybody else have any other questions? I have one more question before we roll into the show. Joel, it's a Summer Olympics taking place right now. You know what your nation does in the Winter Olympics. Do you take the time to watch Canada in the Summer Games? Oh, yeah, definitely. Especially the ones that are outdoors. You guys will dominate log rolling this year. I'm really looking forward to that.

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Did you see there was a story this morning that some kayaker hit a couch that was submerged in the water. That's true. It's a true story. We'll do well at rowing I think in a lot of the water sports we do pretty decent at. Is this the same as the winter games when everybody's sitting around watching the hockey games and the curling? No, it's a little bit different. My favorite is obviously you'll watch hockey as a Canadian but cross country skiing is a really fun one to watch.

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That's a pretty metal. I like the biathlon. Yeah, you go for a long way and then stop and shoot something. Yeah, there you go. So, yeah, no, it's that. Is it that one? That's the one you're talking about where they stop and shoot targets? That's the biathlon. Biathlon. Excuse me. I'm just looking forward to rugby sevens. That's what I'm looking forward to. What is rugby sevens? Explain that. Okay, normal rugby, I don't know how many exact guys are on field. I think maybe 12 or 14. Okay. Just 15. But rugby sevens is just seven guys on the side. Oh. So it really opens.

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the field up. Really easy to understand. Really easy just to jump in. I saw your post about that. It's freaking amazing. Okay. All right. So everybody again please before we roll into the podcast go out. Obviously we don't need to tell people this because the you know the support on Bandcamp is has been amazing. Look at all the people who've purchased it. But go out buy the new Thross and Blot album. If you haven't heard us raving about it enough. We love it. You know there's some you're right. They're getting support and all that kind of thing. But there are people probably listening to the show that don't know. This is a

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with a history. And this is one of those bands that you can go, and when you get that first record, or whichever one you get first, then you can be like, holy shit, there's three more of these to get. Hey, Joe, I just woke up to an alert the other day that the new album was available on Spotify. Was that a purposeful delay on your part, or that's just kind of how it played out? A little bit of both. I mean, we kind of wanted to... To force people's hands. I like that. Oh, yeah. We're real strewed business folk over here. No streaming for you. No, it's mostly one of those

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those things that just kind of got so busy. And then Ray was like, hey, you gonna put that on Spotify and iTunes? I was like, yeah, yeah, I'll do it today. And it's like a week later. It's like, hey, did you put it up on Spotify? And I was like, oh, yeah, I'll just do that right now. And I went to a coffee shop. And, you know, I just happened to be doing that that day. Anybody watch Trailer Park Boys? A little bit. Oh, God. Yes. Big fan. Mark Leahy was sitting at a table beside me while I was uploading. Oh, wow. Cool. Yeah. iTunes. Is that filmed up there by you? It's, yeah, it's probably about three, four hours away in Nova Scotia in Halifax. You know, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was

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I was going to ask you that question, but I didn't want to be the dumbass American. Hey, do you watch Trailer Park Boys? So good. I got my dad addicted to it. A 75-year-old man just sitting there laughing all the time. I went to school in the States for a couple of years, and that's when I was there. It was actually when I started watching the Trailer Park Boys. It was great. It was a taste of home. I listened to all sorts of people with New York accents talking about sausages and baseball and that sort of thing. It was nothing better than a Canadian guy doing an American accent.

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I love it terrible and that was really bad and then you're listening to like Ricky like holy shit boys you fucking assholes what are you doing you know and so it's just a taste of home I've never been more excited to see somebody get shot on that show and within two seconds later they're shooting somebody else it's like nothing ever happened you know a gunfight breaks out in Nova Scotia like every three minutes hey George do you want to roll into the pod yeah so Joel is kind enough to stick around for the rest of the show so we can just keep right

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So the bucket's not empty yet, listeners.

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All right.

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So I was at the gym the other day, and they have...

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Wait, what?

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Yeah, I know.

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You wouldn't think so, but I was.

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I was just there to watch the TV, honestly.

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Because they have like 10 TVs up on the wall there, right?

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So I'm on the treadmill watching the TV.

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And, you know, I go in at about the same time every day.

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And so you see sort of the same shows up there.

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And one of the ones they play every day is Married with Children.

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And I glance over at it because, you know, it's interesting.

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And they played this episode where Anthrax was on. And I was like, what? Anthrax is on Married with Children? And yeah, they won some contest where Anthrax would come over to their house and play a show. And it was just a show for the two kids. And Anthrax was bored and breaking things. And it was kind of cool. I had no idea that back in 1992 or something like that, they were on this show. And I thought that was kind of cool. I didn't know that. Hey, and also, Joe, it goes without saying, anytime you want to jump in, say anything, please just jump in. Just be like, that's bullshit. Or whatever.

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It could only improve the show. Believe me, you. Another thing I wanted to mention before getting into the news, I was at Baltimore Coffee and Tea the other day getting some coffees on a Sunday morning for me and my wife. And I'm standing there in line and I'm wearing my Amon Amarth We Will Meet Where the Beer Never Ends shirt. And this guy comes up to me and he goes, hey, what's Amon Amarth? I was like, it's a band. He's like, yeah, I got in a fight with this guy last night and he was wearing an Amon Amarth shirt.

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I was wondering what it was. And I was like, okay then. I was like, yeah, it's like a Viking metal band kind of thing. And he's like, oh, cool. I'm going to have to check that out. I'm like, all right, have a nice day. I wish I hadn't beat that guy up. Yeah, it might have been pretty cool. That's a great, how did you get into that band story? Beat up a guy wearing the shirt. And as I'm looking down and I'm pummeling him in his face, I'm reading his shirt and thinking I should check that out. So I saw this other thing on the news the other day.

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about the most heavy metal words. Somebody did a study. I'm going to skip over who did the study. But they did the 10 most metal words and the 10 least metal words. So I thought I'd just read those off and let you all know what you should be using. Well, the most metal words are pretty simple words. You could probably handle those. So the top 10 most metal words. Throw some blood. Yeah.

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That's the most metal. But the 10th most metal word is soul. Nine, ashes. Eight, demons. Seven, gonna. Gonna. As in, going to. Gonna. You just seriously, Joe's reaction was like, that was like a painful, like, oh, bands actually use that? That's the curiover from the 80s, trust me. It hasn't gone away yet. Number six, beast. Number five, breathe. Number four, eternity.

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Number three, veins. Number two, cries. And the number one most metal word, burn. Okay, all right. I'm hearing all these songs in my head, all these choruses. I did a little bit of research into Thrasenbott lyrics after reading that article. That's right. I remember saying something about that. I'm guilty of burn, for sure. Eight times in the first album. Five times in the second album. And a whopping 16 times in the third album. Man, the fire was burning. Yeah.

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Yeah, I see it's even in the titles. I don't think I ever said gonna, though. No. You know what? You're all gonna burn. Yeah, all the mystical things that people say about Thrasenblatt and all the lofty. You know, they'll be shot down if you ever use gonna. Gonna. On your next album. I'm gonna sex you up. George, are you gonna read out the five least metal words? The ten least, yeah. Oh, the ten least. It's kind of funny because they're words you really wouldn't hear in a metal

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So number 10, employees. Can I guess one first, George? I just want to guess one in case it's on the list. All right. Nope. Sorry. Number 10, employees. Number 9, chairman. Number 8, approximately. There you go. Number 7, noted. Number 6, relatively. These are all like college words. Speaking of which, number 5 is university. I like how we have two guys here who both write music on a daily basis. And you're like, yeah, we're not using anything. He's going to be like, I'm going to make you start using these.

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words because they're rare words. This is 100% challenge accepted. Number four, committee. Number three, secretary. Number two, indicated. And number one, particularly. I can do particularly easily. Well, one was particularly and the other one was something else that was sort of vague. And I think that was sort of implied like something was almost something. And I think it's because in the metal world, everything is pretty much an absolute. There was another word like particular.

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There. You're not particularly evil. You're evil. Yeah, particularly evil. Exactly. All right. Why don't we move on to the news? First up, and I'm sure Buke is happy to hear this, Opeth released the title track to Sorcerer. Let's get Buke's opinion, Opeth fan's opinion.

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Okay, the OPEFs fan opinion. Since After Watershed, their albums, the first single they released didn't hit me. I didn't like it first listen. From Heritage? From Heritage, from Pale Communion. It didn't hook me. This one, first listen, first play, hooked me. I loved it right away. I was hearing a lot of people didn't like that intro, the little keyboard diddly stuff.

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I fucking loved it. Now, I brought up the point. Who knows? And I think I've seen a track listing. I don't remember where this track is. It's about two-thirds of the way through, I think. Even better. No. Swarstress, I think, is the second song on the album. That's what I meant. Even better. Because we don't know how the first track ends. Right. If the first track ends and this is how it's a great lead-in, even better. Yeah, that's why I reserve judgment until I hear the rest of the album. But this is just such a heavy, proggy song.

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It's definitely heavier than the last two albums. I would give it that. I love it. I love it. And I like this sort of raspy vocal he's using kind of at the chorus. To me, it sounds like the song, just sort of stylistically, when it's in the sort of major verse-chorus part, it reminds me of an old Dio song or Dio-era Sabbath. And I love it. If this is the direction they're going in, I'm all for it, especially since I didn't care for the last two records. I thought the vocals were a little too...

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On this one? Yeah. They were very reverby. Like I said, I was telling John, I expected him to break out into White Room by Cream. Yeah, that's kind of that like vaguely, not buried, but like back from the front sound to it that, I mean, like I said, I'm not hating on it. I think it was definitely an improvement over the last couple albums. I could take it. Yeah, no, I'm just like, hmm, I hope he doesn't do that on every song. It's the first time I've been excited about one of their records in a long time.

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I really liked it too. I thought it was, well yeah, the first thing that hit me was just like, so I like a lot of that 70s prog stuff that he likes a lot, Michael does, and so I could feel that kind of fit in it, but then it's just so heavy. It's heavy. It's heavy in a different way too. Yeah, yeah. It's like heavy in the 70s prog way, which is neat, but also the intro, like you guys mentioned it, I was trying to figure out why, what it was doing there, you know, like, I liked it of course, but usually Opeth, anyway, they have, so I figured it out, I think, or at least I figured some part of it out, is in the

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It introduces this kind of like 70s distorted organ instrument, which they then use in this like sublime outro. So maybe part of it is introducing that instrument, which is kind of neat. Is that the same instrument that you used on Watershed, John? I don't know. It starts with an M. Mellotron. Mellotron. I don't think so. I think he's using something else there. So my favorite part about that intro, though, is I think what it does really well is it's this kind of great riff against which that chug riff.

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is introduced. It just kind of starts chugging. It works. What's going on? And then the drums bash in and it all resolves into this really nifty. Couldn't have said it better myself. That's super fuzzy. Not super fuzzy, but they kind of maxed out that keyboard sound or whatever to make it. Kind of give it a slightly distorted feel. And then, yeah, when everything else comes in and the bass kind of takes the place of it, it's good. It's good. I'm real excited for this record. We'll see. Tell you what I noticed, and I guess this sort of probably leads into the next note here, is that Frederick is definitely up front.

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on this song, which I think he's been for as good as a guitar player that he is. And I've seen him a number of times live. I don't know how many, but he does a lot more live than he does on the album. He's got way more freedom on stage to do what he wants, especially in songs where it doesn't require a huge solo. He can do a lot more. So I think he's way more upfront. So I'm kind of excited to hear him kind of go off a little bit on the album. This isn't a complaint, but the other notable thing about the song to me is the lyrics are dumbed down a shade from the

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Opeth lyrics. They're very 70s, kind of like Ronnie James Dio lyrics, you know what I mean? And no offense to Dio's lyrics. But that was interesting to me. It's a little more straightforward and it's cool, though I dig it. So not a complaint. Opeth guitarist Frederick, as you were just mentioning, says the new album is more intense, darker and heavier than the previous two albums. So I expect there's a lot of people glad to hear that. But, you know, we'll have to wait a little longer to find out just exactly what that means. Does somebody know the release date on this thing? Somebody must. September 30.

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September 30th? Yeah. Jesus Christ. And this is on their own imprint. But who's the parent company? Is that Nuclear Blast? Nuclear Blast. Yeah, we'll get a promo then. We'll probably get it in the next couple of weeks. Cool. Opeth also announced a limited edition pink vinyl to benefit Gilda's Club in New York City, which is, of course, Gilda Radner. I was wondering if it was. Benefits Cancer. Yep. Well, it doesn't benefit Cancer. It doesn't benefit Cancer. It's not like, hey, I'm on your side,

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Cancer. Exactly. Benefits Cancer Research and everything. And that's a home where people affected by cancer. Children and adults can stay and their families can stay with them. Like a Ronald McDonald house type of thing. So I did my part in order to copy. Yeah, so did I. That one too? I will. Is it a limited? It is limited. Better get on it now. Yeah, I'll get on. So the cool thing that I found interesting about all of this is the OPF fan that I am,

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It was cool to see social media with so much Opeth talk. Still with a band that's changed their sound so much. My feed when they released this was all Opeth. So it's cool to see a band that's really not metal anymore, at least in the studio sense, still garnering so much talk from metalheads. Yeah. I think they really kind of got to hit one out of the park with this album. Otherwise, people are really going to kind of write them off. I don't think so. They'll wander away. Their live shows are still predominantly metal. Their live shows are still predominantly metal.

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Yeah, but I don't know. We'll see. Hopefully it's not an issue. But again, it was just like the point I brought up in the past real quick is that Opeth now has himself in a weird spot because you have fans like John and I, you know, who know the old Opeth like, you know, you and Jay do. But could you imagine finding Opeth for the first time liking the sound that they have and then you go back to like Orchid or My Arms and you're like, you wouldn't even think this is the same band. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's actually one of the things that I really like about Opeth and really kind of

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I think it's

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I actually heard this brought up kind of in a roundabout way in a Nine Circles podcast the other day. To satisfy the fans, I personally don't want Opeth saying, okay, the outcry is so loud, we're going to give you another still life, another Blackwater Park again. And they couldn't do it anyway. It would be, I think, maybe half-assed. Probably. I want them playing what they want to play right now. Mike has already said, I can't do the death growls live. I don't want to, we're bored by that.

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I want them to play what they want to as a band. That's very kind of you. Yeah, well, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you there, George. We interrupted you plenty. At least I did. So go right ahead. Well, it's like this thing where musically, I trust Michael Ackerfeld. And so it's like he's like the curator or something like that. And so when there's new Opeth, I just put it on and I just like, where is he going to take me? And I trust that it's going to be somewhere interesting. You know, it might not be what I expect and it might take me 10 or 15 listens to even get where we are here.

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But I trust him to do something interesting musically. And I think he's got such a good taste in music and riffs and stuff like that that it always ends up some sort of quality whether it's what you want or something different. But it's neat. He's a guy who has worn Jeff Rowe toe shirts at live shows before too. Has he? I was going to make a point about something vaguely like that, which is not only is that's a good point, Joel, but also he's one of these musicians that has gotten a lot of his fans into the bands he's into. You know what I mean? There are not a lot of bands that that happens with.

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He's like a blue cheer fan. Well, let me put this way. Believe me, I love the Misfits, but if Metallica hadn't been wearing Misfits t-shirts in the 80s, they would not be what they are now. I'm telling you. And it's a little more intellectual with Michael, but there are bands I've checked out because of him. Definitely. Linda Perhax, and I don't like Camel, but I checked Camel out because of him because I knew he was a crazy Camel fan. They're why I love Camel. First four albums. After that, though.

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The Camel Lights. I think the first cover is The Cigarette Package, I think, or something like it, isn't it? Probably. One of the albums, for sure. Anywho, and that is because he's so passionate about music and he has such good taste that people check out what he's listening to. I've checked out a lot of bands because of him. Another obvious one would be Porcupine Tree. A lot of Opeth fans wouldn't know anything about that band if it wasn't for him. Opeth still, to me, I still mark it on my calendar.

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It's a holy day for me. What's that? The Opeth album comes out. Gotcha. Well, if you're one of those people that miss the old Opeth sound, you can check out the new Ancients album, Voice of the Void, which is going to be out October 14th. It's their second album. You can currently stream the opening track, Following the Voice. These guys are really cool. If you have not heard these guys, it's Ancients with two eyes, as I was explaining to Jay the other day. They were at Death Fest, Pete? No, I've got their shirt.

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two years ago. And yeah, it's really cool, kind of proggy. It still has that sort of death feel to it. But yeah, it's good stuff. So I've been waiting for them to come out with something new for the last couple years and finally are. So check that out. A new piece of news that is not on the rest of you guys' scripts that we just added a few minutes ago. We just heard recently that Maryland Death Fest next year is not going to include the Edison lot, which is basically the point of Go.

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When we go to Death Fest, we only go to the Edison Lot because it's the big outdoor day where all the big bands play. Also, the parking lot party will not be as easy to do in the other places. No. It's pretty much non-existent. There is no parking lot party. It's now a parking garage party or a hotel party. You're not going to be able to just stand around and drink beer outside. You're going to be rubbing asses with everybody in a small venue. When I talked to Dan last year,

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Dragged in the sunlight played. Just fucking people on top of people. That's just the way it's going to be all day now. It's not going to be the casual affair that it has been the last few years. My excitement for going is way down. We may have to switch our allegiance and find another fest. I may change my mind between now and then, but as of now, I don't intend to go. I'm with you. Sadly. Not unless somebody gets announced. That's going to make it worth it for at least one day sitting there just sweating your balls.

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Yeah.

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Because Ram said it's big, but it's configured funny.

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So it can be small.

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No, one of them is getting redesigned before Death Fest.

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I think Soundstage.

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It's getting a makeover.

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They're not going to have the valley, the alley.

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They are.

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They're going to be on an off-site between both.

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There's going to be like a market.

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Outside somewhere?

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Outdoor market vendors and stuff.

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Are they going to – did you hear if they're going to rent that power plant area?

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They haven't.

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Because –

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They haven't announced what they're going to do, but they have said the vendors are going to be back. For those who didn't read the press release from them, they said that this is an attempt to get back to their roots to stop losing money. Because I will admit, last year, the parking lot was not how it was the first year we went, George. I thought there were more people there. You think so? In the parking lot? I didn't think so. Two years ago, it was like you and me in the parking lot and occasionally the Nine Circles guys. No, I'm talking about in the actual,

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Edison Lott. Oh, no, it was about the same, I thought. But they probably lost money last year, too. So, yep. So they were up front about that. One of the announcements said this makes more financial sense for us or something like that. And they were quick to say, too, that this does not have anything to do with the California or the Netherlands Death Fest. They're their own separate budgets and all that stuff. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can guarantee you one thing right now. You will not be getting in the venue like you got into the parking lot in two seconds. No. Yeah.

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You're not smuggling beers in your parking lot and everything like that. Yeah, no more smuggling beer. Anyway. We hardly knew ye. Yeah. So Coroner is actually working on a new album for release in 2017, and I'm pretty excited about this. I'm a big Coroner fan, and obviously it's been quite a while since we've seen anything from them. If you're impatient, they're getting ready to release an album called Autopsy on September 23rd, which is sort of a box set kind of thing. It has a documentary about the band, some live recordings, interviews, and like a best of.

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I don't know that that's going to interest me all that much but I am definitely looking forward to the new album I'd like to see the documentary at least hopefully that'll get up on YouTube or something yeah yeah that would be interesting I don't know any of any other corner fans not really okay then there's a new charred walls of the damned coming on September 23rd called creatures watching over the dead I know we've been wondering what can I think of his name Ripper Ripper what Ripper's been up to lately Christie yeah so I guess at least there's that

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because we haven't seen anything else from him, any solo stuff or anything like that, but I don't know. So we'll check that out when that happens. Asphix is also getting ready to release a new album, Incoming Death, on September 30th. I guess since, what's his name's not in, my brain is not working today. What's the death best band that he wasn't, the singer quit, the German military. Jay, help me out here, you wanted to see them. Oh, it starts with a V, doesn't it? No. It's gone from my head too. Power metal band from Germany? No, no.

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I love that band.

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The name of the band, the singer left before Death Fest.

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I'm so embarrassed.

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World War II metal stuff.

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Hail of Bullets.

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Hail of Bullets.

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Hail of Bullets, yeah.

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Yeah, I guess since he's not in Hail of Bullets anymore, he had to go back to his main band and put out a new album there, which is cool.

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Danzig is also going to be releasing an album next year.

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But between now and then, he's also releasing something, another covers album.

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And this one is called Danzig Sings Elvis.

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Can Danzig just stop already? You know, Danzig kind of looks like Elvis now. Yeah, well, it's funny because... The 1970s Elvis. Yeah, when the first Danzig album came out, I played it for a friend of mine, and she was like, he sounds like Elvis. And so it's kind of funny that he's actually doing an album of Elvis songs now. I actually like a little bit of Elvis, but based on his last covers album, I'm expecting him not going to think too much of that. What was his last covers album?

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Creatures? Was it mixed songs? No, no, no. It was all covers. No, but this one's all Elvis songs, right? Right. No, no, no. But was Creatures all... No, it wasn't all one band. That's what I was asking. No, but just based on his track record of doing covers. Well, plus it sounds like he's recording his records like in his garage now or something. People stopped caring about Danzig after he got knocked out years back in that fight. That was before that. I still watch that to this day. I just love watching that thing. I like him. I like Glenn. But yeah, I'm not... I mean, I don't...

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I'm not, you know what, I'm more excited about the Misfits Reunion live stuff, which I guess I won't get to see, but. I would really, hopefully it'll go over well enough that they'll decide to tour that, because I would like to see that. Yeah, me too. I'd pay a hundred bucks to see that, you know. Yeah. Dee Snider of Twisted Sister is also getting ready to release a new solo album called We Are The Ones. That'll be coming out in October. I'm a big Dee Snider Twisted Sister fan myself, so I'm going to be checking that out. Yeah, me too. This was news to me. I had no idea this happened, but John Oliva of Sabotage fame is apparently recovered.

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He only just announced it, George. That's why you didn't know. Yeah. And apparently he's doing well enough that he's working on a new double album to be released sometime soon. Also says that it changed some of his lifestyle choices. So maybe we'll see a slightly lighter John Oliver. Svelte. I don't know if John can get to Svelte from where he's at. You know what I mean? Like those two points don't quite connect. But I mean, you've seen him, right? I mean, he's heavy. He's big. Yeah. He also says he's lived the rock and roll life.

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So I guess he must have been a drinker and whatever else he was doing, which I didn't really know about him. But it sounds like it woke him up. Yeah. He's still making good records, by the way. Oh, yeah. All of the John Oliva's Pain albums are brilliant. They're good. Maniacal renderings was great. But there's been one or two since then. I think Festival was the last one. I've seen him a few times at Prog Power and his various incarnations of different bands. And even today, his voice is still pretty amazing live. I wish he was going to be there this year. You like him, John, don't you? Yeah.

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I like all the stuff he's done. And I've talked to him a couple times. Not much. Just see him passing. You see somebody at the fest and you just say, hey, great show or whatever. Always a really nice guy, but he was getting pretty big. So I'm hoping that this is all for the best for him. You know, he's really well off because of the Trans-Siberian thing. That is hugely successful, and I think he's the primary owner or one of them. Yeah. And that's the reason why Sabotage doesn't exist anymore because these guys are just raking. Good for them because you know what? Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Whatever works.

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Hey, has Sabotage played Prog Power?

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A loosely based version of some of the guys from different periods in there.

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You know how this guy's going nuts for Fate's Warning playing there this couple months?

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Yeah.

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If they were there playing gutter ballet, I would lose my shit.

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Well, John Oliva just did Streets last year with his band.

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So they've had different versions of that band with different members all playing, you know, at some point somewhere there.

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Because Glenn is a huge Mountain King fan. Are you a Sabotage fan, Joel? I haven't listened to enough of them, I don't think, to comment. Fair enough. I'll have to, though. You guys got an album for me? Well, I say Cougar Ballet. That's mine. But people would say Hall of the Mountain King. Hall of the Mountain King is probably the most metal of the high vocal stuff. Power of the Night is one of my favorites. Hey, John, let me ask you this. We know what your vocal stylings are. Do you indulge in power metal or higher pitch stuff?

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It's you, Joel, not John. Oh, I know, John and I. That's why he's White Cluster and I'm the Opeth fan. You called him John. I mean, I'll take a compliment. That's great. So to answer your question for that, quick answer is no, but to take a few things out of the bucket, I did a little vocal cameo, I guess, on a band called Katu Volkus from Quebec. I don't know if you've heard of

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them. They're a black metal band who just broke up last year. And they asked me to do vocals on one of their tracks, which is pretty fun. And so the vocals he sent me in his demo were kind of higher. And I was just trying to reproduce them a little bit to kind of get the feel for them. I sent it back to him. He's like, we were hoping you'd do your kind of Thrasenblatt thing. That thing you do. We want you. And so I was like, oh, I do have a thing, don't I? So then I did it. The plan was to do it there anyway. So since then, it's been neat.

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Well, that was actually kind of neat to realize that I did have a thing. So I kind of stick around there. And actually in Fires, The Light the Earth, there are a few notes there that kind of get up into almost power metal range. But I think I managed to keep the same kind of vocal timbre, so you don't really notice. Do you like or have you ever listened to power metal? Oh, for sure. Yeah. Okay. I'm saying like a blind guardian. Do you like that? Okay. Love them. Yeah, yeah, for sure. They do a lot of nifty things. I've really never had a chance to ask somebody who, you know, does the style you do.

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if they like something on the other far extreme? So I think there's, I mean, I like all sorts of music. And there's obviously some power metal that's pretty cheesy. Like Dream Evil, which I love. Oh, skip. No, can't listen to this. But obviously the bands that do things well, it's just a band like Blind Guardian. So I don't know how they do it. Because every riff, they do these things where you can have a song structure like verse, chorus, verse, pre-chorus, chorus even. And they're kind of three ideas that kind of lead into one another.

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And then you can repeat. So they've got in some of these songs, it's like riff one, riff two, riff three, riff four, riff five, riff six. And they all kind of lead into one another. And then they repeat them. It's like these like, I don't know how they do it. Just melody after melody that all kind of flow seamlessly and just create and then just build up into this crazy kind of monumental thing. Yep. I swim and when I swim, I listen to music and I put just, I have like a waterproof iPod. And I put random, I put a Blind Guardian thing on there the other day. And I was like blown away by the structure of, I almost had a tear in my head.

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my eye from this song called carry the blessed home you know that song it's a twist in the myth and it does exactly what you're talking about it just it goes it's somehow it builds and builds and builds and has like like you say like a bridge and then the chorus i mean it's just really something and they're really talented songwriters man i think it's because they just really take their time too obviously yeah i mean the records and records don't come out very often and yeah they're great great writers have any of you guys seen them live i have i have yeah so yeah he doesn't um i was we were talking about this on a recent episode he doesn't

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He doesn't really hit the high high notes. At least he didn't when I saw him. Yeah, the singer. But they were great live. I saw them on the Twist of the Myth tour. It was really good. Yeah, I saw them when they did the album after that. Night at the Opera. No, the one after that. The Blood something. The Mirror? Mirror something, yeah. Oh, the Opera record. It's not that great. That record wasn't that big a deal. How many guys would it take to fucking... The point of what I was saying was that I saw them in Montreal.

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3,000 people just like on their feet, just like all singing at once. Singing everywhere. Hey, Joel, have you ever made a heavy Montreal? Yeah, I was there the very first one. How is it? I know it's grown pretty big. Because we're a little homeless on festivals right now. We need a new festival. So I didn't get there. I wasn't there. I haven't been there recently, but the very first one was a pretty incredible experience. Just in terms of the amount of people there, just in terms of the bands that played, like typo negative. It's not fucking typo negative.

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Now Montreal's own despised icon is like fucking kings of that place now. Headlining, are there? Yeah. I never got to see them and I never will now. That's one of my best shows ever. What year was that, Joel? This was in 2000 and I think it was 11. I don't know. So it was when Dead Again was probably the newest record then. I think, yeah. Yeah, I love that record. It was like the two stages were side by side. And so it was this thing where like Death Clock,

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played on one stage and then like typo was on the stage again and then it was just band after band after band yeah the first year was 08 okay uh that's probably the one i was at and um is that the one that iron maiden yeah iron maiden mastodon hate breed three inches of blood uh overkill symphony x hammer fall typo mastodon death clock and so and ended with iron maiden playing their kind of they just i think they did a best of kind of thing yeah and like bruce dickinson was climbing up like the 60 foot raft

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singing like the trooper on top of those. No harness, nothing. Just like a sea of people all the way around. So if it's anything like that, still, then that's a real home. But do you need to go there? Do you need to go to... I know this is, of course, not true, but how French is Montreal? Can you go there not speaking French and do pretty well? Oh, yeah. 100%. Quebec City, not so much, but Montreal is very... Yeah, it's just a very metropolitan city and lots of cultures.

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And, you know, people, yeah, there's lots of people who speak both languages and lots of people who speak only one of two. But it's a really, really nice city. Kind people there, too. To let you know whether or not how far they've fallen. This year's headliners are Five Finger Death Punch Nightwish, Volbeaten, Disturbed. Yay. Oh, God. I barely made it through that. You just, you saying it out loud. Can you imagine? Yeah. Okay. All right. So, Valken, I believe, is wrapping up today. It is. No, wrapped up yesterday, I think. Was it? Really?

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It was only Sunday

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And due to security concerns

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They banned people from having backpacks

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Which, given the nature of Valken

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Seems like it would make things kind of rough

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Because the field that they do this in

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You have to take a train

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All the way across Germany to get to it

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And it's just out in the middle of nowhere

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And so you pretty much have to camp

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And to not have a backpack

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That seems like that would be a real pain in the ass

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The interesting thing about Valkan this year, too, when I shared with you yesterday, Ministry was playing. Yeah. And you said you didn't think I was with them. Yeah, well, after Mike Scotia died, he said that he wasn't going to continue doing Ministry because his relationship with him and Mike, that was Ministry. And so that's why he started doing Surgical Meth Machine, and I didn't realize he was going to do any. I mean, maybe he's just not going to record anymore. Maybe playing live is different. Well, maybe they gave him a pretty good paycheck, too, though. I would expect.

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I sent this video to George Alive. Still Valken, even though it's probably a nightmare headache to go to, it looks so fucking badass. Ministry on stage, a couple hundred thousand people out there. They were playing So What. It was awesome. God, it looks amazing. Yeah, and they streamed Trypticon, they streamed Maiden. Yeah, Steel Panther. It looked amazing. Did you hear that, John? Steel Panther played Valken again. Looks like I'm not going.

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Resident Steel Panther hater. Fuck that, man. Hey, Joe, have you had a chance to hear Steel Panther? I was just about to Google them. Okay. It's just a spoof 80s glam metal band that some people like and some people don't. I love them, but their lyrics are very funny. Misogynistic. Misogynistic, exactly. But it's, you know, I mean, it's a joke, but just because it's a joke doesn't mean it's right. Right. Yeah.

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It's a joke, but they're good. Yeah. And they're not even real. Yeah. So Joey Jordison has a new band, and I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right, but I'm going to go with Sin Sanum. And they just released their first album, Echoes of the Tortured. Now, I'm not that big of a Slipknot fan, so I was like, whatever. I probably wouldn't have even listened to it if it were not for the fact that I saw that Attila of Mayhem is part of the band. I was like, wait a minute, what?

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Can you give me credit? I came on this podcast like two months ago when the first video dropped and I saw it and I said, there's something to this. You sure it wasn't the other band? Yeah, the other one, dude. Yeah, the one that isn't good. I listened to the other band and didn't like that one. This one I was like, ah. Is this a lead singer with long blonde hair? No. Oh. Yeah, that's the one you're saying. That's the other one. This one is, it's, the vocals are split between Attila from Mayhem. Fuck Joey Vance. And this dude that was in, he wasn't

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the singer for Chimera, but he was in Chimera. He's like the keyboard player for Chimera. And it appears that he does most of the vocals, at least on the songs that I've heard, where Attila just sort of brings the backing evil. He'll just scream in the background once in a while. But it was still kind of cool. Despite that, I thought the lyrics, or not the lyrics, but the vocals were pretty cool. I haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but I've sort of cherry-picked some tunes off there, and it's kind of, it's all right, you know, compared to what he normally does anyway. Anybody else listen to it? I haven't, no. I mean, it's, I,

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I looked at the script, but that was the first time I heard of it. Yep, the band I was thinking of was Vimmick. Vimmick, yeah. Yeah, I don't like that. They sound it. Get me off this pod. Go on. Anyway, so I was surprised to hear that Ville from Poison Black and Sentenced has yet another band, and I'm going to guess that it goes by S-Tool. S-Tool. As opposed to Stool. Stool. Stool. And they've got a GoFundMe to fund their

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their new album. They did release a song called Shovel Man. It wasn't bad. It's in the vein of Poison Black. Yeah, it's a little heavier. It's heavier than Poison Black and even a little heavier than the stuff he did with Sentenced. The pre-V-Lay Sentenced was perhaps heavier than this, but it wasn't bad. I was curious that they had a GoFundMe which doesn't have any incentives. It's just a, hey, give me money. And the thing is, you know how GoFundMes work? If you don't make it, there's no goal at Kickstarter.

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You know what a Kickstarter? You only get the money if you reach your goal. With GoFundMe, wherever you get, you get. Like an Indiegogo. I was like, you can give the money and you don't even get a copy of the album. I'm like, what kind of shit is that, dude? Yeah, that's a crock. You wouldn't do that, would you, Joel? Sorry, I was distracted by a text from Buke. He sent me a picture saying what today's theme was. The Mr. Bucket. Mr. Bucket. That's so good.

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I've reached out to Villy and I've been talking to him about getting him on the pod. Shut up. Yep. You kidding? I'm 100%. That's why I was asking for my email yesterday. Sorry, Joel, if Villy joins. You know I'd have to tell him the story. The story. Yeah. Can I say, George's greatest concert moment, In Flames is playing, Sentenced is opening for them. Joel, have you ever heard Sentenced? Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah, we love Sentenced here, George and I. Sentenced is playing their first and only U.S. tour.

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It's a packed house. But nobody knows who they are. But nobody knows who Sentenced is. Even Buke had only just heard them. The second song or so, I'm like, man, George has probably loved this. I look over and a young eight-year-old looking up at Hulk Hogan for the first time or something, George has tears in his eyes streaming down his face. It was like George was seeing the second coming. And you know the Sistine Chapel with the guy

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and Adam and the reaching out. I did that because I wasn't upright on the stage. I was probably four or five people back from the stage. And Ville's singing and he's doing the middle fist thing. And I'm like, yeah, I'm singing along. And everybody else is standing there with their arms at their sides. And so he sees me and he's reaching out to me and I'm reaching out to him and he's singing to me. And I was just like, I'd be so gay for you. That's our greatest concert moments. Yeah, that was probably one of the best.

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So if you're a fan of Sentenced or Poison Black, go give him some money. Help him out. He's not going to give you anything in return, but... Hey, Joe, what do you think about these bands doing crowdfunding for albums? Well, we did crowdfunding for the second album. Yep, you certainly did. Well, it's an interesting framework because it's not a model that ever existed before the internet. It's something that I think if it's done right, it can really help bands. But I guess you have to just decide how each band handles it. If it's a band, it's just like, all right,

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20 grand, and then you can come chat with us for a day. That's a little much, maybe. Joe, the one issue I have is you're already, I know still, no disrespect in this comment, you guys are still a small band. I mean no disrespect. Even though you've seen success, I think it would be wrong for you to do one for Thrasenblatt 4. Why? Or 5. No, in the sense that they've already done it. So?

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If it's between doing a Kickstarter and not having an album, or not using a label, I don't see any reason not to. If you're giving people something for their money, why not? I see that side, but I also feel that in the true meaning of these things, they're for that first-time upstart thing. I don't think it's... Okay, that's right. I don't necessarily agree with that, but whatever. I just think it's the model that you decide to use with it.

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sort of another way to do a preorder. That's a good way. Yeah, that's the way I look at it. But if it's like, here, 10,000 bucks and we'll come and do a half hour Skype chat with you. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Are we paying? Yeah, we can't afford that, dude. You guys got to talk to Buke, but no. No, I think it's just a neat different sort of platform that you can use to get the exchange between here's music and here's money to support the music kind of thing. So if it's

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I think it's definitely a positive thing, but if it's done wrong, then that's where it's shitty. He just told you you were wrong. Yeah, he just told you. And that's why I asked the question. I love, you know me, I'm a straight shooter. Give it to me straight. So our last news item is Nick Menza's book Mega Life is coming out in November. That's sort of a poignant, kind of like, what? Oh, you know, he had that. Obviously, this was in the works before he died. I think I remember hearing that. So definitely going to want to check that out. What year did he leave? What was his last record?

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Continental Extinction maybe? No. No, no, no. Like well past that? Maybe the one before that? Was he on Risk? Maybe it might have been Cryptic Writings? Somewhere around there I think. Yeah. I know Marty left after Risk. No, Risk was after all those other ones. Yeah, because Risk was the last one with Marty. I don't know. I think Nick left before Marty did. Anywho. I don't remember. Moving on to new releases.

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This first one is one that would have slipped by me, if not for our listener Greg, who pointed this out to us. This is the band An Abstract Illusion, and their album Illuminate the Path. And I listened to this on Bandcamp, and this is one of those cool little surprises where I listen to so much stuff on Bandcamp, and it's not good, you know. And so it's like you pull up a band, you go, it looks neat, let's listen to that. 30 seconds later, you've moved on to something else.

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And this is one of those bands where you just put on the brake and you go, well, hold on. And you got to go back and you listen to another one and another one. And you're like, wow, this is actually a lot better than I was expecting. What manner of thing is it? It's sort of like a progressive black metal. What do you think, John? What would you call it? Yeah, I kind of, yeah, a little bit of death, but not traditional death, a progressive death more. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe just call them, I don't want to call them extreme metal, but you know, if you can't come up with a definition for it. Yeah. I liked it.

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Yeah, I did too. So definitely of the releases this week, that's probably the one that I would recommend the most. But moving on, we've also got the new record from Baptism, The Devil's Fire. This was another one that was sort of a surprise to me. I mean, this is their fifth album, I believe, but this is the first time I'd heard of them. And this is definitely more along the black metal lines. Old school, though. They're kind of more in that sort of goat horror tradition, I think, a little bit, which is to say they're really honoring the past type

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So this is definitely for people who are kind of into that. But it's good. It's worth looking into.

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I checked out a few of these albums on the list and I liked that one for sure. It reminded me of a bit of Niflheim. Yeah. Like Jay saying, kind of old school. I think it's one of the best things that's in the box right now. We have a box where we share our demos and it was one of the things I pulled down that I really liked the most. I want to hear you talk about the next one a little bit. Yeah, next one is Black Crown Initiate and their second album, Selves We Cannot Forgive.

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This was very different. It was. Wreckage, the first one, I think was a very... For me, it was a cross between black metal and death metal. It had sort of a cleanish tech death kind of production. Very much so. But then they'd throw in some black screaming kind of stuff. See, but I think it was more like a proggy sound that they had too. I went back and listened to it a little bit to compare. Because I was like, I don't remember them being this proggy. And then I was like, oh,

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It actually isn't that different. It's not. There's a lot more clean vocals this time. I think that's my problem with it. Is that the clean vocals that they do, they kind of put like this digital effect on it. And they also are singing in a higher pitch. Yeah, a higher register for a lot of it. It's out of place, actually. It sounds, and I... It's a great way to put it, Jay. It's a great way to put it. Well, it sounds like they got a guy from a metalcore band or something to come over and do those clean

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and it doesn't fit. And they are not that kind of band. And I don't think it's on purpose. I think it's just how this dude sounds. But they had it on the first album, but it was very small doses. Yes. And while on one hand, I think it's a good album. I do. I'm not knocking it. But I was a little disappointed because what I liked about their last album was that it was really heavy and kind of extreme, but it had this nice, tight, punchy production about it. So it was like, we could have gone the metal core

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We're up, but we're kind of going in this other direction. Exactly. And it was just kind of cool. And they're a little more generic now. They're almost now so generic. They're kind of like in the same vein, periphery. Oh, God, don't say that. No, but I'm serious. This comes kind of what they're getting to now. And this is by no means a bad album at all. No, but you hit the nail on the head. It's a little more generic. And the first one, when I heard the first one, I was seriously blown away by it.

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I wore this shirt yesterday and I FaceTimed Jay and he was like, what do you think? I'm like, it's not bad. A little bit meh. But it definitely was a disappointment from how excited I was coming off of the first one. There you go. Can't say it better than that. Speaking of disappointments, the new Bloody Hammers is out. Lovely Sword of Death. I really liked their last two albums a lot. And they've sort of been... I don't want to give the impression that if you become more commercial

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I'm going to by default dismiss you. But this album is not even really a metal album. It's like a goth rock album. And it just was not doing it for me. On the last album, he had this style of vocal that was, to me, sort of a Marilyn Manson meets, I can't remember who else it was, but it was kind of a cool thing. There's a song called The Town That Dreaded Sundown. And he used that on that song and a couple other ones. I really liked it. And now he's done a whole

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of that.

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Like a Bela Lugosi thing or whatever.

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And I'm like, it's too much of a good thing.

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I just lose interest by the third song.

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Yeah, I don't like it either.

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Yeah, I was not.

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I wasn't.

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You kind of had got me into these guys, and I think it was just because on one of

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the early pods I was on, we were talking about them, and so I got them.

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They definitely turned a corner here.

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They were way more doom, and now they're just, eh, I don't know.

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Maybe I just don't get it yet.

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I don't know.

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They were like this cool old 1960s, 1970s kind of horror thing, and it really worked,

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and now it's just kind of campy.

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or something. Yeah. Yeah. They jumped the shark. They jumped the shark. Yeah. Yeah. While we're talking about new albums, we're joined by Joe Violetta. There it is. There it is. Of Thrasenblatt and his new album, Metathonia. You look at that. Two for two, baby. Get it on Bandcamp now. Really quick. Get it on Bandcamp now. But I wanted to give a quick one sentence, sorry, two sentence review of the album as we're talking about new albums. Joe, guitars. Somebody says, everybody's

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Desperately looking for someone to step up and fill the void Agaloc left with their demise. Forget Oak Pantheon and Gallo Braid. Thrasenblatt are the true heirs to the throne. Word. Buy Metathonia right now on Bandcamp, people. George, move on. Do it! Do it now! Jeez, those are pretty heavy sentences. That was! Heirs to the throne. Don't fuck it up. Because you know what? The metal world is really like Game of Thrones. Your fucking head could be lopped off tomorrow.

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Well, like I said, the last time Joel was on, Thrasenblatt filled the void for me that was Woods Viprey. We know enough already. We know. Forget Agaloc. Go listen to Woods and Thrasenblatt now. All right, moving on. Castle released a new album, Welcome to the Graveyard, and I like it. I keep getting Castle confused with all these other retro- Chick-fronted doom bands. Chick-fronted doom bands that Ruby the Hatchet, Person. Yeah, but this is one of the good ones.

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in music right now. I agree. It's like a female ghost. That's what they all are. This one's different, though, because they've got a male singer, too. Yeah, I didn't notice that. I said I didn't listen to it enough. Well, it was an older thing. I was looking at a video of theirs. Hold on. Well, go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, I was going to change subject. Well, then, by all means. Oh, all right. It's not on the list, but have you guys heard the band Puppy? No. No? No? It's totally cashing in on the ghost thing.

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The Music Isn't Quite Like It But The Singer Sounds Like He Wants To Be The Dude From Ghost And It's Kind Of Like If Green Day Did A Ghost Album It's Weird I Only Heard One Song And I Did Not Particularly Care For It And I Was Outraged By How Much It Sounded Like Ghost So You Know I Still I Don't Think I've Ever Got Any Of You Guys To Commit To This And But It's Worth Your Time You Need To Check Out In Solitude's Sister A Record Called Sister And I Swear To God You Could Have Convinced Me That He Was Actually Who The Singer From Ghost Was If It Wasn't

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that other dude. And it's, you need to check that record out. What was the other band? The, the C word, uh, that sounded like ghost that you were really big on that. And I liked them too. Like, like, like, uh, Kretis. Kretis. Yeah. Kretis. Yeah. They're cool. I hope they continue. I hope they do more records. Yeah. I hope they do a full length. That would be cool. Uh, me too. I

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I'm going to look that up and see if they're still active on Facebook. There he goes. He's got a beer. Oh, look at that. Cheers. Finally joining us. He's done with his coffee. Yeah, done coffee, moved on to some beer. First off, how do you like your coffee and what are you drinking beer wise? Because I've been enjoying a nice dragon's milk. Bourbon barrel stout. I saw you show that in the camera though. It looked good. I'm a big beer guy. My coffee, I like it strong and... And black is your soul. That's the new Yngwie album, Milk and the Dragon. Yeah, so it's...

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Yeah. Anybody have an AeroPress? No, but I've wanted one. Yep, worth it. Is it really? It's a really fine grind. Okay. Yeah, it's unreal. Mike Hill from Toombs is a big coffee guy, and he's always posting pictures of coffee presses and different roasts and stuff. Coffee's becoming the new beer. Maybe, yeah. But, yeah, I'm a coffee guy, too, so maybe I also have to start posting some coffee photos. Could be material for the fourth album. Who knows? Hey, quickly, you said you start posting pictures.

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Are you on social media for anybody to follow you? Instagram or Facebook? Facebook.com slash Throssenblatt. I'm not all that active in social media except for the band stuff. Because you know there's creepers out there. That could be part of it. Mostly just because I don't like being tied to it. On Twitter I post once in a while Throssenblatt. Also at BewareTheJoel. I'm not all that active. Maybe it's because I just got out of it.

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Maybe you drank your own Kool-Aid. I know he's not into it because I tweet at them. And then a month later, he likes it. I'm like, tweet was a month ago. Yeah. No, just one second. Look at that hair. Yeah, I try to make posts that have high quality. And when I can't think of anything good, then I don't. So maybe that's it. Maybe coffee's the new... How about Thrasenblatt coffee, Joel? We'd have to come up with a Thrasenblatt pun for it first.

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Throssen K-A-F-F-E. Throssen Roast.

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Okay, George, what's next?

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All right, so this next one is a band I first heard on Gwarbecue last year. They're a band called Dead Earth Politics. And for whatever reason, they don't release albums. They've been releasing EPs. Last year, they released an EP. This year, they just released an EP called The Mobius Hammersmith.

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Mobius Hammersmith. That's the most vital name I've ever heard.

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Makes me think of like this vampire dude from Spider-Man and like a Motorhead album. But I don't know how to label the music. It's kind of like a thrash groove kind of thing, but good. I believe they're from Austin and it's a nice sort of breath of fresh air when I spend most of my time listening to black metal and death metal and things like that. It's a little different and it's definitely worth checking out. You can find it on Bandcamp. Next new release is a band that we just saw at Maryland Death Fest.

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And I think they converted just about all of us. There's a band called Denouncement Pyre from Australia. This album is amazing. And the album was called Black Sun Unbound. And they were like the band that opened like the Sunday, I think. They did. And, you know, there weren't that many people around. And we just sort of wandered up with a beer. And we were like, hey, what's this? And they just like ripped our faces off. You know, Horrendous did a similar thing on the first day. They're pretty smart about choosing those opening bands. Yeah. So I pre-ordered this on Bandcamp, you know, the vinyl.

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And it was definitely worth the wait. It was a great album. I'm going to let Buke take this next one. Montreal's own despised icon are freaking back with Beast. It's been a while. It has been a while. They're one of those bands, and I don't like it, but they're one of those bands that quits, does farewell tours, does a one-off show, does hype around all those, and then look, we're back again. We're doing an album. We're doing tours. But with all that aside,

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The Spy Zycon is back. Is it good? It's The Spy Zycon. Okay. Take that for what it is. It's nothing groundbreaking. It's nothing super special. It's nothing bad. It's like a grind core, grind elements, death core elements. Death core. It's The Spy Zycon. All right. You know what you're getting into with them. They wear a lot of Expos gear. Do they? Yeah. Yeah. Go Nats. That's great. Hey, Joe, the beer you were drinking. Oh, yeah. Okay. So Fredericton, New Brunswick,

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It's great for a lot of reasons, but it has a beer company called Pickeroons.

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Yeah, I think you told us about that.

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Yeah, and so there's actually a lot of microbreweries in Fredericton now that actually Pickeroons has kind of been this sort of incubator for a lot of other breweries.

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It's great.

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So it's one of the things that I love about the Maritimes because it's tough to get it.

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There's not a lot of preservatives in it, so you can't sell it kind of far and wide.

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So I'm drinking some Pickeroons Doryard Summer Ale right now.

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So if you're ever in Fredericton, get Pickeroons.

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I might be.

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I've been talking to my wife about it. I was explaining to her who we were talking to today. So you have some people take a vacation. You want a jolcation. Yeah. Well, we've been wanting to go up there. My parents took a trip up to Nova Scotia. It just seems like a metal thing to do to go up through there. So I think I sort of convinced her that at some point we need to go up through Maine and head over that direction. Well worth it. Well worth it. So Morgan Ryder from the band Vesperia. Is that the shirt you're wearing, by the way?

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I am, yeah. I like those guys. I love those guys. So Morgan and I were in Woods of Iprey together for about two weeks. He was going to do some of the shows. So we got to know each other a little bit then. But then he's kind of through a few times doing shows. And I went and saw Vesperia open for Calma in Moncton, New Brunswick, about a couple months ago. And we kind of reconnected there. And so he just came through for a vacation in Nova Scotia. And New Brunswick, the big joke is that it's the drive-thru province.

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I thought that was Calgary.

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You could, I could do a trivia, we could do like a contest, and it would not have to be on this show, but in say the sentence, I went and saw Vesperia open for Kelma in Moncton, and then say to a person, what is this person talking about? That was the weirdest sentence I've ever heard, dude. Vesperia open for Kelma in Moncton.

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That's great. Yeah, and so anyway, there's lots of cool spots, and so I mean, one thing you can do is just kind of hop along the Maritimes, and there's,

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There are a lot of really nifty spots to camp and a lot of neat natural places to see and a lot of good beer to drink. And then you can visit me in Fredericton. Open invite. Yeah. Buick will be there next week. So next one is the band called Psalm Zero and their new album Stranger to Violence. You don't know these guys. Yeah. I picked up their last album. I think it was The Drain. And so I immediately jumped on this when it came out. And it's kind of interesting because it's kind of metal, kind of Depeche.

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The vocals are very 80s dream pop over this metal music. It's kind of weird, but it's kind of cool. I like it. Next one is Revocation. And Great is Our Sin. Take it away, Buke. This may be my new album of the year. I am telling you this is absolutely amazing. It's technical death metal, and it's revocation catchy as hell. I am absolutely loving this album. Let me just put on the record that I agree with Buke. So when he tells you that I don't like

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I like the revocation. It's a fun album. I think Dave Davidson not you know blowing smoke up his ass or anything. I don't know if that's the right term for this. It is. He's the best guitar player in metal now in my opinion. The guy's a fucking genius. This album's amazing. Check it out if you like any metal. If you like tech death check this out. Right on. It's awesome stuff. And our last new release this week is the new Russian Circles Guidance. I think we should let

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John talking about this one. Yeah, it's typical Russian circles if you like them. I mean, I was sort of not expecting that, but that's all right. John, we're trying to get you in on this. I've listened to it. I can give you my two cents, which is... It's very much like the last two albums. It's not like the first three. It's a little more ambient in their sound. Really? I thought their last album was heavier than this. Yeah, this one's... Each progressive album for the last three has gone down a little bit in terms of the heaviness. But it's still really cool. Yeah, but I will say this.

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If you see them live, they're going to blow your ears off. They are big and heavy. Just for three guys. They're a cool band to see live. Yeah, I like these guys a lot. I like it. Are they out of your way or something? Where are they from? Are they out there? They're from Chicago. So they're not here to anybody. Unless you're in Chicago. I'm going to have to have more listens. I might listen to them as I'm driving up tonight to see another band similar to them up in Baltimore. I'll give another spin tonight. I wish I was going to that show too. It's going to be cool. I'm going to see if These Trees Can Talk, which is a band from...

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I think it's their first time ever in Baltimore so that'll be kind of cool. Yeah, I think that will be good. All right, let's move on to our top five. That's right, we're doing a top five this week because this topic could not be contained in three choices so we had to bump out the walls

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a little bit and make it a top five. This is going to be the top five metal albums that you would like to have with you stranded on a desert island. This wasn't hard. Not really. That was actually sarcasm. This was fucking impossible. But I mean, well, let's just let's get into the meat and see where we're at here. Because Joe, did you put together some lists? Did you? Did you? I did. Are you playing along? Okay, good. Man, it was difficult. It is. I'm really excited to see whatever else says because I feel like my list is very generic. And as our guest of honor, Joe. Yep. Yep. Go first. You're first.

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I like to go first. Jeez, well, between a five and a six, there's so many honorable mentions, man. Yeah, everything. When I was looking at this, I looked at it in terms of like, okay, I'm actually on a desert island. What am I going to want? I want to have a little bit of everything, right? So I'm not going to do a whole bunch of one genre. And so number five, I also wanted a little bit of, you know, have a little bit of fun if you're on a desert island. So I went with Devin Towns and Ziltoid the Omniscient. All right. Strange pick. Wow. Awesome. This is going to get weird. Awesome. That's awesome. I mean, it's a perfect pick.

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I just thought like mine like George

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I listened to that album the other day in fact

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yeah it's good George I'm generic

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like you so I'm not gonna

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yeah so okay my list half of it's

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gonna be the typical bands and I

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just went with my top five metal

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albums I just it was too hard I could

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have went the direction Joel went and

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I just ended up having a list of like

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a thousand records you know so I was

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like I'm just gonna pick my top five

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so so to go really typical and

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predictable number five Iron Maiden

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number the beast I kind of

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I did try to do what Joel did too, which is, though I don't know if people, when my list is complete here, people think that it's all varied, but my number five is Black Sabbath Volume 4. Cool. Black Sabbath Volume 4. Gotta have one of them, and that's probably my favorite one. Now for the real list, bitches. Bitches. Canadian Zone. Canadians. Canada Zone. Three Inches of Blood. Advance and Vanquish. Of course. Still one of my all-time favorites.

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I still smile every time I hear it. I think Cam Pipes has one of the best voices in metal. My number five is Canadians Own 2. Any guesses what band from Canada I might have on my list? Rush? Wood's a Vipre. Grey Skies and Electric Light. Can the fucking sucky? No, let's move on. I'm sorry, that is my, I listened to that album all the freaking time. All right, we're back to Joel with number four. All right.

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Number four, I went with Niles' Annihilation of the Wicked. Oh, yeah. Jay would really like that one, yeah. And that's my favorite record by that. Dallas joined us on the podcast, in fact. Very nice guy. Yeah, we need to get him on again. I think I play a lot of video games. He plays a lot of video games. Oh, you did friend up with him? Yeah, him and I are friends on Xbox and PlayStation. He plays a lot of Doom. Yep. Do you ever talk to him? All the time. Yeah, I gotta get friended up with him. Bukazar resident social butterfly.

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Yeah, but we did. We had him on, Joel, and he was a really nice guy to talk to. That's awesome. Which episode was that? It was right before the new record came out. The new Niall record. We were doing the Narcotic Wasteland album. What a strange choice from you, Joel. Talking about your stuff to a straight, hard, death metal album, Mike. It's so melodic, and there's so much happening. It is. It's really intelligent stuff. I really like Niall. It is. A lot of people don't get them, but a lot of people do. Episode 31.

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33 is the one with dallas isn't that the album that most people would say is the best nile album

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it's my favorite god in that outro is just killer the way it just there's always these i mean they don't mess

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around with those middle eastern influences i mean they he can really do that you know for lack of a

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way but john i already liked i'm sorry just one more nile thing it's just i already liked the album a lot

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like a ton then i was in florida for a bit um and for about a week and i listened to the album and

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just suffocating Florida heat.

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I got it.

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You can imagine building pyramids and all that.

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Did you get the new one and do you like it?

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I haven't got the new one yet.

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I didn't know it was around.

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It's worth your time.

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It came out a few months ago.

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It's worth your time.

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All right.

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It was better than the last one was.

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Cool.

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Thanks, Jay.

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John.

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All right.

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So you can't have Maiden and then not have Priest on your list.

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So I'm going to keep going down that road.

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But I'll be picking a Priest album that maybe only Jay agrees with me on.

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And that's Stain Class. It's by far my favorite by them. And the big song off the album is? There is no probably. Yeah, I mean, maybe Beyond the Realms of Death. Yes, you'll get my vote on that one, boys. But there are so many other good songs on that album. But it's an album where there aren't a lot of big name hits off of it, which makes it even better, I think. Probably my favorite Priest record at the end of the day. I mean, Exciter, Saints in Hell, Savage. I mean, all that stuff is great. So it's great. Yeah.

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I also kind of want to mention here that I factored, one of the things I factored into this was like Number of the Beast would have been an obvious one for me, but I honestly, I don't know if I can listen to that any more times because that's one of the records I've listened to so many times. And that would be almost true of anything on my list, but for whatever reason, these are ones that never get into that category with me. So it doesn't get more generic than this, Led Zeppelin 1. That's good. It's still a great album after all these years. It is, yeah. I love that record. Awesome. I forgot my honorable

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Mention. It probably will be my number one, but this is a heavy metal podcast, so I can't mention it. Alice in Chains, Unplugged, would be my number one on the Desert Island. Okay, so what's your number four? Just giving my honorable mention. I could listen to that album a million times over. Between the Bear and Me, The Parallax 2. Oh, yeah. It's an amazing album. Amazing. Blows my mind the stuff that they can do as a band. Yeah, that was a killer album. My number four is Judas Priest. I had a little trouble deciding, so I sort of went with an either or.

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Screaming for Vengeance kind of edged out Defenders of the Faith a little bit. Defenders of the Faith is a little bit heavier, I think. Screaming for Vengeance is a little more commercial. I went mostly Screaming for Vengeance because the rest of my list is not particularly, I mean, you could call it commercial, but a little more melodic, let's say. I considered it, by the way. Screaming for Vengeance was up for consideration. Same here. Same here. I love that. All right. Back to Joel for number three. All right. Well, I suppose I should give my honorable mention then. So, like I said,

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It's so difficult choosing these, but I think it'd have to be either Oman or Earth's with Odin on our side. Yes! Yes, my favorite! Yes! Either that or one of the early Ice Earth albums. Burnt Offerings. So much good stuff there. Anyway, I figured that if I'm stuck in a desert island, it probably won't be just me. Somebody else will have a few albums. I imagine that one of those people will have. Go John Caraboo. That's good. You're thinking of other people. I'll have to go along, so I'm cool. I don't have to break that one.

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See, so Maiden wasn't a bad choice because I'll get some from you guys. That was funny, John. My number three, then, is going to be Emperor's Anthems. Oh, yeah. That would definitely be my Emperor choice. That's pre-Turtleneck, right? Yes, that's pre-Turtleneck. Joel, do you wear the Ishan Turtleneck? I've never had the opportunity to do so. Okay, please, never take promo pictures or anything wearing a turtleneck. Honestly,

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I think he looks really cool. My brother-in-law is from Norway. Wait, you say he looks cool in the turtleneck? Yeah, he does because he's Isan. But my brother-in-law is from Norwegian. Anytime I see anybody wearing a turtleneck, I'm just trying to take my own shirt off. I just get so hot. Joe, take a promo picture wearing a V-neck before you wear a turtleneck. So I was talking to my sister and my brother-in-law, and I was talking about the Isan album. And he's from Norway. And I showed him the turtleneck picture.

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They're kind of like hmm. Have you had a chance to hear a new Ishan album, Joel? Ishan. Ishan. I haven't. No, I listened to the last few though. Oh, it is good. Joel, it's amazing. It's amazing. It is definitely better than the last one. It's on all of our lists. It is. It's a podcast favorite. He's another one of those guys that just is so, like I trust musically. So like anything he does, I'll just, I'll give it a listen. Totally. Well, he's at the top of his game right now. Yeah, right now this album.

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That's amazing. All right, where are we? We're at John. John. John's number three. John number three. Can't have a list without Sabbath, but I'll go with probably an album that nobody will take by Sabbath. That's Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath. The opening riff alone on that album for me, I'm sold on everything. That would have been my second after Volume 4 if I hadn't chosen that. That's a great choice. All right, Jay. All right, well, if you know anything about me, you know I was going to choose one of these. Merciful Fate, Melissa.

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Of course. Melissa, one of my favorite records of all time, and I never get tired of that record, ever. Yeah, that really should have been on my list. I considered it. It just goes so many different places, and I never get bored of it, ever. I mean, I don't put it in every day or anything, but still. One of the greats. Buke. Number three for me, is Out of My Love. It brings a tear to my eye when I listen to it every time. Sentenced to Cold White Light. No one there. Fucking everything is nothing. I have a list and it's not on there? Okay, I feel bad now.

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That's a great album. Excuse me while I kill myself. Yeah. No one is telling you. This album. Okay, that would be my honorable mention. That would be your honorable mention? It's not on my list. I know. What am I talking about here? This is crazy. But I mean, I had to go with the great ones. Yeah. Come on. What's next for you? All right. What's next, George? Master of puppets. My number three is Iron Maiden, Peace of Mind. That's a good choice. I think so. All right. Crickets, moving on.

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My number two. Man, this is getting difficult. I keep thinking of so many albums to put in here. We do this every episode. It's just a battle. You just torture yourselves every... It's getting hard to come up with things. I pick for this one, pronounce it any way you want, Windier, Vindier, their 1184 album. That is a cool album. That is pre-freed. If I'm stuck on a desert island, I want to be able to at least some way escape to the frozen north in some way.

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That's a great album. Thanks. John? All right. My non-commercial album here, and I'm going to go past 1982 now with this pick, so The Gathering Mandoline. Yeah. I never get tired of listening to it. I can listen at any time. Wait, what read album did you just mention? It was Vindor, 1184. Okay. Nobody else has been brave enough to say it, so I'll do it. Fine. Metallica, Master of Puppets. I just joked about it. I knew someone else would bring that album. I'm packing it. Don't worry. My favorite Metallica song,

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Disposable Heroes is off that album. It really is a great record. For all of the obscure stuff that I love, it's probably the best metal record ever made. It's the only album I ever listened to for a whole summer. Exclusively. Me too. It was like crack. Alright, Buke number two. It's a definite album. It's a classic sound out of Sweden. Michael from Opeth, Resurrection Through Carnage by Bloodbath. Sweet. You gotta tell me your number one's on Opeth. What? What are you talking about?

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Who? Just because I think that this was one of those first albums that George introduced me to. Say that again? George introduced me to this album. That's right. And on first play, I was like, what is this? The vocals on that album are just... The vocals are amazing. Suano is amazing on this album. Suano. It's just an amazing album. Yeah. Another honorable mention, before I forget, Pantera, Reinventing the Steel. Of course. That's your... That's my introduction to the metal, so...

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My number two has already been stated by my brother Jay, Master of Puppets. There it is. Thanks for not leaving me alone out there. I feel like the dork at the party, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's cool. All right. Number one, or Joel. I had the Jay part right. Joel, Jay, or John. All these J's. There's a lot of J's. So just before I say this, oh, Buk's gone. I'm right here. I was just leaning back, stretching. That pronunciation of my last name was the best I've ever heard. Oh, dude, that's a... We did that.

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For months after you were on last time. It's just fun to say. Joe Violetta. Violetta. So this one, you might not expect this one out of me. So this is a band called Equilibrium. And their album Sagas is just such a good album. Start to finish. So much energy in it. And it's like 80 minutes long. So it's bang for your buck too. So that'd be my number one Desert Island pick, I think. Excellent. Good choice. All right. Where are they from, Joe?

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Sorry, John. I'm booking them up. Germany. I think that was 2008-ish, somewhere around there. I haven't listened to their new stuff. Yeah, they had Turis in 05 and then Sagas in 08. Yeah, that album. Do they sing in English? Some of it and some of it not. It's a prerequisite for Buke. If it's not in English, speak English or die, or at least I'm not going to listen to you. Sing in English or die. Yeah, sing in English or go away. I don't care. I think after this album, they changed vocalists.

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And the new guy is more of a kind of like a more deafy kind of guttural kind of vocals. And this guy is more kind of a raspy black metal type. This is Helg Stang. Yeah, it's so this this album really does it for me. Look how much look how much better lit Joel is than the rest of us. Like that's like a professional production over there. And we all look like a bunch of morons. Like you get this good. It's like a good background behind you. The mic's coming in. It's the glow of the nice mic. We are so not cool. You're not getting the microphone. I'm a gear gear nerd.

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Yeah, can I? Just send me an old set of strings or something I can, like, out of asphyxiate with. That's too much. Sorry, I was reading about David Carradine yesterday. Were you really? Yeah. I was watching a movie with his dad in it, and I was, like, Wikipedia-ing his dad and, like, him and all his multitude of siblings and their progeny. It was crazy. Anyway. Yeah, well, his death will always be a footnote in any information.

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I knew someone would bring that album to

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You know the first time I saw Opeth, they played Godhead off that, John, and I didn't see them play Godhead for like another 13 times after that first time. Blew me away. Yeah, it's an album from start to finish. Moonlapse, Vertigo, Face of Melinda. That whole thing. I mean, I may not be the number one Opeth fan, but I think I'm pretty coy with my hand up, so I'll just say it. You're a little less obvious. Yeah. Do you know every time I email bands, I'm like, man, I'm really fucking myself here. It's like, you want to

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You should just create another one. You know, a podcast-based one. Buke fan? At least it's not something like Dungeons & Dragons fan that gets your butt kicked on a regular basis. You know what I mean? Okay, Jay, your number one Desert Island album is? Mastodon Leviathan. Nice. Blood Thunder, baby. That's all the riffs in the world right there. Okay, Buke. Which Opeth album is your number one? You know me too well. Ghost Reverie.

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I think it was the height of Opeth hitting everything just hitting perfect. Yeah. Yep. Right on. So my number one, I cheated. I was looking through their discography going, all right, which one is going to be the Black Sabbath album that I choose? And I was like, oh, hey, the Symptoms of the Universe, the original Black Sabbath 70 through 78 has the first eight albums on it. I'm going with that one. So I can get all eight albums in there. But if I have to choose one, I'm going paranoid. All right. So Sabbath one with the most selections. Oh, did it?

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Our House Statistician just calculated that in his head right there. John, I was keeping tabs. Excellent. All right. Nobody had my Three Inches of Blood also on their list? Please. Oh, please. Vancouver Zone? Please. I like Vancouver, but there's a lot of good bands from Vancouver, actually. All right. Why don't we move on to what we're listening to?

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What a military zone

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What a military zone

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Joel as our guest we listening to now buddy how many albums do I have George normally

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hits us like with enough so you can go outside like you know get lunch and dinner I used to do like 20 to 30 albums that I was listening to between episodes but I've limited myself to five now but you can do as many as you like okay four or five okay please so right now I'm listening to obviously the new moonsault album oh yeah that's really good it's they're just incredible those guys

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A couple of your write-ups, I saw people associate them with you. Oh, jeez. I'll buy that, yeah. What a compliment. That's crazy. It's all, it's, you look at your band camp, a couple people say it. Well, I just, yeah, so, you know, obviously I know their older discography pretty well, and then listening to this is like, well, how are they going to, how are they going to do that again? I just, and then so I listened to it again, or just listened to this one to begin with, and it's just like the Blind Guardian thing, riff after, like riff after, and it just, and it's, and they cut, then they'll bring this other one back in another form, and it just, just, it's a

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I spent a lot of time listening to that when it came out this year.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's great stuff.

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And well, funny fact, when so, Kerrang did a little write up on Thrasenblatt after Thrasenblatt 2 came out because George Garner is a big Woods Thrasenblatt fan.

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He's the one of the guys at Kerrang.

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And he asked a little little five question quick quick facts thing.

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And he's like, who's your favorite?

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Who's your most famous fan?

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And I was like, oh, God, do we have any famous Thrasenblatt fans?

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I remember that Ville from Moonsoro emailed me once to tell me that he really liked Woods 5. And I just sat in shock and just didn't move for about an hour. That was cool, dude. Yeah. So I got the balls to email him and be like, hey, Ville, here's some Ross and Black, my other band, like Kerrang, blah, blah, blah. Is it okay if we call you our most famous fan? And he's like, yeah, okay, it's great stuff. And then so I guess Ville from Moonsoro was, at least at one point, I don't know if he still was a fan, our most famous fan.

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He's probably sitting there now going, I liked them back in the day, but now they have totally sold out. Yeah, back when they were cool, yeah. So listen to that one, and this band called Osric Tentacles. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I love that stuff. Yeah, Jurassic Shift. What are the, Arborescence, like those ones, but the new one, Technicians of the Sacred is what I'm listening to now. Band called, sort of a neofolk band called Rome. They have a new album out called Coriolan. They've got some really nifty stuff.

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It's kind of dark, kind of, it's almost like when you're listening to it, you're kind of like listening to like Europe. It's like this kind of dark kind of soundscape. They're kind of nifty if you're into that sort of thing. And the other one I'm listening to is a Scottish folk band from the 70s, 80s called Silly Wizard. Don't know that. Their live album called Live Again. And it's really, really folk. And there's actually some pretty, really good, obviously there's some good stuff in there, but there's some stuff that even metal fans would probably enjoy too. I'm going to check that out. Yeah. So that's me for recently. Cool.

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John, what do you got? Okay, sticking with George's five only, Abstract Illusion, Illuminate the Path, something I got from George via Greg. So it's trickled down that far. I don't know how I missed these guys until yesterday, but I listened to the last album, Ancients, Heart of Oak. I just got into them, like I said, literally as I was talking to you, George. And I listened to that first album and was like, fuck, where have I been? So it's that, get that a good spin. The new Russian Circles Guidance, band that I,

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I heard you guys talking about the other day, you and Buke, this Harakuri for the Sky Trauma, the third one, which I liked. And then a band I found, because I'm big on the whole kind of late 60s psychedelic kind of spacey desert rock sound, this band called It's Not Night, It's Space. And the album's called Our Birth Is But Sleep and a Forgetting. It's a fucking great desert-y psychic kind of trip. Yeah, I picked up their whole catalog on your recommendation. That's some good stuff. So did I. Same thing.

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So it's cool. Check it out if you like that sound. What's the album called? It's called Our Birth is But a Sleep and a Forgetting. Wow. All right. I'm going to check that one out. Yeah. It's on Bandcamp. It's not night, it's space is the name of the band. Awesome. Yeah. All right. Well, John, what do you got? Wait. Sorry, I meant Jay. You mean Will? Yeah, exactly. Too many Js. Some mix of everything that I've probably mentioned in the last several episodes, but of note, Aronsi Pesuzu,

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is really stuck in my everything. I think the new Hammers Misfortune record is brilliant. They're such good songwriters. They're a little middle of the road, so I don't think they appeal to a lot of people. There's nothing extreme about them, but I can write a song. That's going to be on my end of the year list. I do like that one too, Jay, the new one. It's so good. I'm going to review it for the website. That's how psyched about it I am. This came out in March, but I didn't check it out at the time, but the new Metal Church record is actually good. It's called

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11, I think. With Greg Howe, right? Yeah, it's good. I don't know if you've heard it, John, but there's a couple songs in there that could have come right off of the dark. I am also listening to... Oh, this is... Boy, this is the last one I'll mention. There's some split decisions on the pod about this, but it is quickly racing. This is racing up my list. I know what it is. It's so good. If it sounds with an eye, I'm not talking to you. Here it comes. Here it comes. Inter Arma. God. Dude, this record,

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is brilliant. It's racing up my best of list. I listened to this again after Buke so soundly thrashed it. And the music is really good. I'm not a big fan of the vocals. Thank you. The lyrics are, I think, pulled from old English poetry. They definitely have some quotes from specific poets. Screw those old English poets. It's not the lyrics that bother me. The lyrics are smart. It's Rossenblot lyrics. They are. They really are.

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does not require that kind of reverb. He uses about eight vocal styles on the record. And I mean, like literally, I can't say enough. This record. I will admit that my last listen through, it grew on me a little bit because the music is so good. Yeah. I don't think it'll be my number one, but it's, it's worth considering for number one record of the year. And I know Chris is out there. Excuse me. Neutrino is out there somewhere supporting me on this. Yeah. That's it. All right. Buke, what are you listening to? I am pulling up my list right now. I have been listening to,

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The Revocation album almost nonstop. Oh, that was on my list too, Buked, by the way. I haven't listened to that. You don't need to put it on there for me. I understand. I don't need your sympathy here. No, but I've listened to that album a lot. It's really awesome. A couple band camp listens. A doom band by the name of Hollow Leg in their album Crown. Another death metal band by the name of Denominate. Those Who Beheld the End. Sorry, again, if you hear children in the background, that's my daughter.

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She's sitting in on the podcast today. We're having a little take your daughter to work day. Another death metal album by the band Slave One. For your Star Wars fans, this is Disclosed, Sorry, Disclosed, The Tropic Principles. Another band, The Misery Hive of Mutation. And like George mentioned earlier, for new releases, An Abstract Illusion. The album's awesome. It is. And I wanted to give one more mention to...

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It's actually a first time. I thought we talked about it last episode, but it wasn't out yet. The new Blood Red Throne. It's pretty awesome. I haven't listened to that yet. Union of Flesh and Machine. Yeah, I have to check that out. Pretty awesome. We saw them last year at Death Fest. We did. They had a new singer, which was on one hand kind of a disappointment, but they did well, so no, not knocking the guy. So yeah, I want to check that out. And George, I will give you props. The new Footprints in the Cussard is really good, too. Sweet! It's a really fun album. Yeah, it's sort of like a thrashy Death Guar. Yep, exactly. It's very inappropriate, not for children. It's like Steel Panther. It's like a heavier Steel Panther.

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If Still Panther was writing Death Metal. Yeah. Sort of. And they're not quite that deviant, but the album is called Descent of Decency, so make that what you will. All right. And one more thing, the new Sentinex is pretty badass. Yes. Doomsday Rituals. Yeah. Frickin' amazing. We saw them at Death Fest this year. Yep. All right. So I've been listening to... I got one more. One more. I'm so sorry. I remember it before I was leaving for it to come here today. The new Reed Hammer came out earlier this year. We mentioned it before. Jay's mentioned it once or 20 times. Amazing.

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It's so good right now. It's an amazing album. It is. It's really good. God, is it amazing. There are no uncoolers. There's not a bad moment on the whole album, Jay. And they even have the best Amon of Marth song of the year is on that record. There's like this Viking thing on it. I wanted to give you props in mentioning that. Sorry, I have a long list written down here. I'm sorry. Am I good? Yes, you're good to go, George. Wait, wait, wait. Go ahead, buddy. All right. So first one is a Doom album by a band called Hosts Eagled. And it's their second album called

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It's called For Mankind. That's like H-A-A-S-T-S. Eagled. I'm not sure. I don't know how you take eagle and turn it into, unless you're talking about golf, he eagled the fourth. Maybe it's like Blood Eagled. Yeah, maybe. Which I actually saw used in a sentence the other day. I tried to type it in on Spotify and David Hasselhoff came off. Interesting. Well, apparently Haast's eagle is like the largest, either the largest eagle or the largest bird that ever was. It's like a prehistoric or something.

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I sort of skimmed that part. But it's cool. Next one, I believe John already mentioned it. Harikiri for the Sky in their third album, Trauma, is also very good. I've listened to that one also. Another Doom album, Head of the Demon and Satanas Trismegistos. Not sure how the pronunciation goes there, but really cool. Not like a traditional Doom, more of a cleaner style.

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Sludge, like a very tight doom with like sparse vocals. It's very cool. You should definitely check that out. Find it on Bandcamp. Another one that I discovered called Necronautical and their album, The Endurance at Night, reminds me of like early-ish Demi Borgir. It's like a melodic black metal, but not like, you know, when they went. Like for all Ted type of era. Yeah, more of a like. Stormblast? No, like a. Morning Rise?

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Sorry, sorry. The one with Skoalbom by the devil on it. I mentioned that last episode. Yeah. Darkness, Triumph or something like that. Darkness and Thrones. Yeah. There's too many words in there. Anyway, great album. Surprised me a lot. And my last one, this one is dedicated to our friend Neutrino, who's a big non-fan of Merc... He's a big fan of noise.

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He's not a fan of Mercure. Mercure? Mercure. I'm looking at a word you can say, but you can't. I say it all the time. How does it feel now? Too much whiskey, I think. The tables are turned. And I'm like, Mercure. Come on, say it now, big boy. I can't. I can't. Welcome to my world. Mercure. Okay. Anyway, it's basically one female band, Norwegian band, called Sylvain, and her second album, Wistful.

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It's not really a metal album at all. I mean, there's a little bit. Most of the album is like ambient music with clean vocals over it. It's not metal. But then every once in a while, she mere cores out. There, I got it. And she'll just like throw in some harsh vocals and some heavy guitars. And it's kind of interesting. And I really dig it. So I recommend that a lot. Why don't we move on to our, okay, this is a new section. In the past, we used to do classic albums, but we felt like we were running out of ideas for that.

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So now we're calling it personal recommendations. So there's no time limit on it. No time limit. Before we used to do 20 years or older. Right. Now this is something from any time period that you just want to recommend. Joel, do you have an album? Sure. Joel, hit him hard. Sure. What's that? Hit him hard with something. All right. There's so many friggin' 70s folk prog albums that I'd like to recommend, but I think I'll go for something that people who like Thrasenblatt might also like. So this album is, I think it's,

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It's a black metal album that has a lot of melody, but it's also really fast. And it's Keep of Colessons Reptilian. That's a good album. That is a great album. Yeah, I like those guys. It was hard keeping that off of the Desert Island list. Stuck it in your way. Great album cover, too. All right, John. So I got this from Buke because he had never listened to these guys. We were talking about who we wanted to see at Maryland Death Fest. And I went back and listened to this album.

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a lot recently. I'm surprised more people don't talk about them.

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But if you like technical death metal, this is probably one of the first ones.

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And that's Atheist's Piece of Time.

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I'm surprised more people don't like Atheist.

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Maybe it's just because they haven't been around for a long time and they've been sporadic.

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But I would think if you like technical death, you would want to start there.

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Definitely.

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And I will give John credit here.

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He said right after Death Fest, Buke checked this out, freaking blew me away.

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Oh, yeah.

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And as a fan of tech death, I was not familiar with this album.

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Blew Me Away Start to Finish. And I don't think it's her best album. I think Unquestionable Presence is probably their best album, but I just like this one more. Yeah, but you know how some albums take like a track or two to ramp up? As soon as Peace of Time starts, you're hooked on this album. Yeah, so that's my personal recommendation. Excellent. Jay, what do you got? I already made reference to this once today. I don't even remember why, but In Solitude, Sister. If you haven't heard this record, you really need to check it out. It's like a better version of Ghost. Yeah, that's what we were talking about, Ghost, which I was talking about that band Puppy.

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Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and it's just, and I mean, they're in no way related. They're not that style of band, but it's that they are musically, they're somewhat stylistically the same in that they, it's sort of that spooky, maybe late 70s hard rocky sound, but it's better than that. I can't do it justice. You really need to check it out. Cover alone. Go look at the cover. If you've never seen the cover, that ought to make you listen to it as a metalhead. All right, puke. I'm going to take one, I mean, this is a total edit on the fly because Joel mentioned it earlier. I'm going to reiterate with Odin on our side by Amanomar. There you go.

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Please listen to that album. It is one of my favorite albums of all time and start to finish. It is perfect. Perfect album. Excellent. So that's my personal recommendation. I love that album. Incidentally, if you enjoy trail running, that will get you going through a trail pretty quick. It's an amazing album. My album is one that came out last year and it was the album that got the bump off my end of year list. It was like the first album after my list. It was like number 21. I think we did 20.

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And so I didn't get to talk about it. And I really wanted to recommend this album. It's a little bit of avant-garde metal. So it may not be for everybody. But the band is called Soulfall and their album World Metal. Oh, yes. Is that not an awesome album? Yes. Actually, yeah, I dabbled in writing some reviews there a few last year. I did a review of that one. Such a great album. Wait, where do you do reviews at? Oh, it's this little website called quirksandquiddities.ca. Okay.

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Yeah, you want to do reviews for We Are Metalheads? Well, maybe. Let's work it out. I did a review for that one. I did a review for this band called The Helix Nebula. You ever listen to them? No. I'm adding them to Spotify right now. The Helix Nebula. Instrumental band, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. From Australia. They're good. Yeah, they're up. John, can you get out of here with your knowledge and hitting it off with Joel, please? Bukka's jealous. As soon as he had me at 70s frog.

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A-Z-A-U-M. Anybody listen to them at all? Yeah, you recommended them on the last episode and I dug it. I picked it up on Bandcamp. So they're an oracle so I didn't really review for that. That's a great album. I didn't know Canadians use Z for Z. That's the news to me. I mean, that's an English thing. Oh, I just said Z? I was worried that I said Z. Sometimes I've been accused of doing the American version of things because I was in America for a little while. No, you said it. That was a close call. Hey, Joe, how is the Helix Nebula Meridian album? Is it the same?

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Same vibe. What's that? Meridian is the album. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. It came out to 2014. I thought it came out last year. That was me. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah. If you ever want to write anything, we'll post it. Okay. Yes. We will post it in a second. That's Bree. Bree's recommendation is YouTube colored bus. Wheels on the bus. Wheels on the bus. Go round and round. So that's what a two-year-old's listening to right now in 2016. She looked at me when I did that. She's like, that's my song. That's my jam. You say stop.

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Seriously? Seriously? Seriously? Seriously? Oh yeah, she does. She has got this S thing. Okay, anyway. Like Matt. Alright, let's move on to purchases, vinyl or otherwise. Do you buy vinyl, Joel? Yeah, I do actually. Alright. I've been trying to limit it to

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the Genjohn 70s Prague because they're a little more, well, a little better on the pocket right now. Yeah. I tried limiting myself too. I was like, I'm only going to get my favorite albums. And yeah, that quickly fell to the wayside. Yeah. So I kind of haven't bought any in the last month or two just because I think something went wrong with my record player and I just haven't had time to even look at it. Did the cartridge break or something? I think it was the belt or something wrong. Anyway, it's just not turning. Anyway.

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I'm a huge fan of theirs. I love that. Are you? Yeah. What's his name? I forgot his name all of a sudden. David. What's the singer's name? The first singer? Yeah. I forget his name now. Yeah. Sorry. So he's a memorable guy. Okay, I got it. Yeah, I'm embarrassed because he's actually, I love that singer. Yeah, he was an incredible singer. David somebody. Go ahead. Yeah, well, let's figure that out. I'm going to do it right now. Go ahead. Anyway, another one that blew me away on vinyl was Yes is Fragile.

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Oh, yeah. I have that. Yeah, it's a great record. Yeah. And then I found a new, well, I found My Arms Your Hearse on vinyl, which can't even talk about it. It's just so, so good. David Byron, by the way. David Byron. Yeah. I'm embarrassed that I couldn't remember that. And then I bought Wind Hands Soma. Yeah, we liked them. Cool. That's my recent purchases. Right on. John. I think we're going to have a few more after listening to chatting with you guys today. Excellent. I'll do these real quick. I got a few, but I won't go into any details. I got picked up both of the Wetherscapes on vinyl.

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Kenan from Wilderness King finally sent me the writing of the gods in the sand. Got that. Native daughters, Master Manipulator. I got the three Agaloc re-releases from the end. Hell Folklore, The Man Told, Ashes Against the Grain. And my buddy TR got a second copy of it and gave me Empire of the Clouds by Maiden. It's the record store version. So, cool. That's it. Jay? I picked up, even though I always have to say Merciful Fate 50 times, I didn't have these on vinyl for some reason.

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I got that first one, which I call a corpse without soul, but it's got different names on it. The very first record. I also pick up Live from the Depths of Hell, which is a bootleg that I had in the 80s, which is awesome, The Merciful Fate. And I've been meaning to get that, and I picked it up. I got a cheap copy of Bark at the Moon. I didn't have that on Blano, so I thought, what the hell? Not Ozzy's greatest record, but worth having. It's my favorite. No, it's not. It is, because it was my first Ozzy. Oh, wow. Yeah. We'll have to talk offline. And I just ordered Cult Burial's Hideous of

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which this is an old school black band I'm getting into right now. Black metal band. Sweet. Puke. Really quick. Despised Icon Beast. I got the new Black Crown Initiate. I got two Agaloc reissues, Ashes Against the Grain and The Mantle. Some people say there's some of the best atmospheric black metal you can have. And it was like six bucks a used copy of Nirvana Nevermind. Sweet. I think any music collection needs to have that. I don't even know if I have that, but if I don't, I should. Actually, no, I think I do.

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I got the Agalak reissues as well. Pale Folklore, The Mantle, Ashes Against the Grain, Yowl 3. I got the new reissue of Corrosion of Conformities in the Arms of God. Three got that too. Apparently. I got Godflesh, Street Cleaner, and Selfless. I got Opeth Lamentations. I got that too. Make that three, mine finally came in.

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Palace of Worms. I got The Ladder, which is their latest album and is really, really good if you like black metal. I also got the reissues, the sentenced reissues. I got Crimson finally completing my sentenced vinyl collection. Those haven't shipped yet. Now they have. I got mine. I got Crimson and Frozen. I'm still waiting for mine to ship from Amazon. I don't think I didn't order from Amazon. I ordered them from the label. The label. Yeah, Century Media, I think. And I also got Sylvain's Wistful because as soon as I heard that album, I was like, I gotta have this. And it's brilliant.

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I also received my Wilderness King album The Writing of Gods in the Sand. Thank you, Kenan. That came awfully fast from South Africa. And finally, the new Witherscape, The Northern Sanctuary. Are you a Svano fan, Joel? Oh yeah, I like Dan Svano a lot. Yeah? Do you like Witherscape? I haven't listened to Witherscape. Both albums. You should check those out. It's the perfect mix of prog and death. Are you on Spotify, Joel? I am not. Okay, well I'll send you a YouTube link. Please.

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It's brilliant. All right, let's move on to our deep tracks. Joel, did you think of one? Yeah, I did think of one. So this is, again, you just describe the deep track again. A song that's not popular, but it's on an album that it wouldn't get radio play, wouldn't get mentioned. Yeah, a song that maybe people need to know about that they wouldn't have heard because it doesn't get attention. Okay, sure. So the song is called The Lone Descent, and it's by another neofolk band called Of the Wand and the Moon.

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Oh yeah, I've heard of them. Yeah. So the, so their newest album, the lone descent, uh, the title track is pretty, pretty incredible. I have to check that out. I remember seeing probably their last album. I don't know what it was, but I have heard of them. It's yeah, it really, yeah. I'll just let you listen. It's it's yeah. The lone descent. Cool. Good, good track. Excellent. John. All right. I went super, super deep on this one. It's another one of my songs like that Aussie song I picked. It was only thought of in someone's head and they didn't actually write it out. But, but this song is, is deep because the guy,

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by Devin Townsend. Like Jay said, I think Jay said he burps out music and albums come out. This is pre-Ocean Machine, I think, but it wasn't released until it was on a revised version of Infinity. It's a song called Man. So if you're a fan of his early, kind of heavier sound, more industrial sound, check out Infinity. Mine is a Dirge. I think I mentioned it once. Dirge for November? No, a Dirge. It's High on Fire's Blessed Black Wings record.

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One of my favorite high-end fire songs of all time, but it's not like an obvious high-end fire song, and it's called Brother in the Wind. Okay. I'll have to give that a listen. Yeah, it's so great. I love deep tracks, because all of us were so like, um, yeah, what? Crickets? Yeah, because it's deep, yeah. It's so deep, but none of us really know it. But mine, probably everyone here will know it. It was deep, and I had to go back and check the plays for it, and it was actually the least on the album, so it justified my choice. It was deep even for you. Black Sabbath, Falling Off the Edge of the

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the earth oh yeah great right on amazing amazing song off of my rules yeah and almost the

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definition of a deep track because it's so good people should know that people should know that song

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that's funny because my deep track is also a black sabbath tune but it is from a master of reality and it is solitude

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nice dude yeah i forgot about that song yeah i love that song it's so it's pretty you know um you know that um

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Do you remember that? This Estonian band who did a bunch of Black Sabbath covers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the best tracks on there is Solitude. I love that song. I never hear anyone talk about that song ever. Planet Caravan is in that mode too. That's so good. Yeah, cool. All right, well, here we are at the end. We want to thank Joel for coming on and joining us. Thanking him is an understatement. Yeah. Joel, you're a badass dude, man. It was so much fun having you on. Yeah, greatly appreciate it, dude. It's been so much fun hanging out with you guys here. I really appreciate you.

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You're welcome anytime. You don't have to write a new album to get on here. Yeah, seriously, anytime we're doing a new episode or hey, if you're bored one weekend, say, hey, Puke, you guys are in a pod. We'd love to have you on anytime, buddy. Yeah. Well, thanks so much, guys. That's awesome. You can come and stay or you can just pop in to say hi. Either way, man, we're glad to have you. And again, Joel, please tell people where they can get the album. You can get the album off our Bandcamp, throstandblatt.bandcamp.com and it's also on iTunes, Spotify, all sorts, all over the place. Excellent. Hey, Joel,

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I didn't ask you a question earlier. If there is one song that you could say, listen to this to hook somebody or turn somebody on to Thrasenblatt, what would it be? What song represents you the best? Yes, what song represents you and the band the best? Oh, that's a very good question. It's either probably, I'm just going to say Once Fire Veined because that seems to be a pretty good one. I love that song. What do you guys think? Because I just write them. I don't know what everybody thinks of them. I think it should be Aqualung by Jothotol.

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You should do a cover of that. That would be cool. George, how about yours? I couldn't possibly answer that without giving it some thought. I told you, mine's She Who Names. I would say that the new album, the first three songs are probably my favorite. Yep, by far. But that is not to diminish the other three. Not at all. That's good. It means I picked them in the right order then. That's good. And I mean, how do you pick your favorite children? I don't know. They're not even my children.

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How do you pick your favorite of somebody else's children? Again, hey, John, Jay, Joel, you guys spent a couple hours with us on your Sunday here. Everybody's day off. At the Jay Club. Yep. Thank you, gentlemen. Truly. Thank you, guys. You have a Jay sound, George, so that's close enough. Thanks again. And Jay gets the added benefit of it being his name as well as the name of the club. So he feels like he's the chairman of the Jay Club. Do you remember when Homer Simpson finally found out his middle name? It was like, and he'd always wanted to be a

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and they found his name is Homer J. Simpson and they found it out and his middle name was actually J-A-Y. It didn't change anything. It was like, I finally know who I am. I'm Homer J. Simpson. All right. Well, before we go, make sure to check us out on SoundCloud or on Facebook. You can find us on Twitter. I am Disciple OV Metal. I'm the at OPEF fan. John is WhiteCluster69. And you are? At CatatonicJ.

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Joel, you're on social media, but you said not often, so it's a rarity. At Beware the Joel. Joel must check his Twitter. Try your luck. Yeah. Joel must check his Twitter and be like, shit, all these mentions? Check it every once in about a month or anytime someone says the word Twitter in a sentence. I'll check, but other than that, I kind of forget. So I'm there if you send me a message. Excellent. We're also on YouTube. You can find us at Stitcher and WeAreMetalHeads.com. And I ask, sorry,

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Please tell a friend. Spread the word. Any site that you can leave a review, just leave something for us, if you want, good or bad. Yeah, our iTunes reviews have stagnated, but I don't know if anybody listens on iTunes. I don't think so. Probably not anymore. Thanks, everybody. Yep. We will talk to you next time. We are out of here. All right. See ya. Thank you.