WEBVTT 00:00:00.020 --> 00:00:05.240 Metalhead Podcast, Metalhead Podcast, Go! 00:00:26.260 --> 00:00:27.940 You must listen. 00:00:29.020 --> 00:00:30.160 You must listen. 00:00:31.540 --> 00:00:32.560 You must listen. 00:00:36.440 --> 00:00:39.980 Now, here is the Podcast Metalheads Podcast. 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:42.700 Hello, and welcome to the Metalheads Podcast. 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:43.640 My name is George. 00:00:44.260 --> 00:00:44.760 This is Jay. 00:00:45.300 --> 00:00:45.760 This is Will. 00:00:46.040 --> 00:00:46.640 And this is John. 00:00:47.160 --> 00:00:51.140 And we are back with episode 67, I think it is. 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:54.940 We do not have a guest for you today, but we've got something even better. 00:00:55.540 --> 00:01:23.780 And I'm going to let John tell you about it. Yeah, so in place of a guest, I suggested maybe we do something like a roundtable discussion. We keep hearing about these roundtables on television with everything that's going on in the news media. But I thought this might be kind of a fun way and an interesting way to talk about maybe something that's important in metal, an issue, something that comes up. It could be anything that may kind of spark some good discourse. Heated debate. 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:53.120 Yeah, it could be that, or it could be just us. Fisticuffs. Yeah, waiting through the minutia to get to the end. I don't know. And best of all, it strokes our egos because it's more us. More us, less them. Well, if it comes to fisticuffs, John and I are in the same room, so we'll fight. You guys can troll each other online. No, no, no, no. Each of you will fight for, you'll choose somebody whose honor you will fight for. And George and I will cheer from the background. Yes. 00:01:54.120 --> 00:02:24.080 What was that game? The Rock'em Sock'em Robots. I choose John. Those robots are way more manly than we are. Is that the one with the red and blue? You're like, oh, my thumb. Oh, no, that's Hungry Hungry Hippo. Oh, yeah, that's sort of the same game. That's the one, Jay. But I do remember Rock'em Sock'ems. Okay, everybody on 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:27.020 the age of 40 just left. 00:02:27.200 --> 00:02:27.700 Turn it off. 00:02:28.200 --> 00:02:29.720 What the hell are they talking about? 00:02:31.740 --> 00:02:32.120 Anyway. 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:32.600 Cheesy. 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:33.080 What? 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:35.360 Do you remember the game Perfection? 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:37.260 No. 00:02:37.460 --> 00:02:38.680 My wife and I just saw this. 00:02:38.820 --> 00:02:41.160 Everybody under the age of 44 just left. 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:43.060 It's the game. 00:02:43.180 --> 00:02:45.500 We saw it in a movie or a TV show or something. 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:53.540 It's a game where the board presses down and you turn on the timer and you have to put all the correctly shaped pieces in before the timer runs out. 00:02:53.580 --> 00:03:23.220 Otherwise, it pops up and they all fly out. You know, that sounds vaguely familiar. I used to love that game. You know, like 42 years ago. Is this the nostalgia era? Does anyone remember Morris the Cat? Yeah. I remember Felix the Cat. Yes. Yes. All right. So we had some roundtable topics. And I'm going to let John continue with that since we got a little off track. 00:03:23.580 --> 00:03:53.540 No, we got a few. So, I mean, what do you want to do? You want me to pick one and we'll just start talking? Sure. Yeah, go for it, man. Just throw your finger on the page and see where it lands. All right. So this one will seem to be interested in. So why don't we do this? So I came up with this thing. Is there just too much music available in the digital age? And the reason why this came up is because I read a lot of review sites. I'm sure we all go like the Angry Metal Guy. And I'm always sending Georgia texts like Angry Metal Guy is dead to me now because they just trashed one of my albums or like then 20 minutes later, Angry Metal Guy is dead to me now. 00:03:53.560 --> 00:04:23.500 I read the comments from people and they're kind of nasty. I mean, they're trashing albums. Oh, this band sucks. You know, like, what are you talking about? They're great. And so I started wondering, is there just too much out there? Are we expecting too much now when we're searching for music or looking for something new? Because I go on, I use Rate Your Music a lot, not because I believe in what people are rating albums, but I'm just curious to see what rates high, what rates above anything. 00:04:23.580 --> 00:04:51.480 But also you see names, sometimes you'll see something you don't know, and you're like, okay, I'll take a stab at that, you know? Yeah, that's what I tend to use that site for, is because it'll be like 100 best albums of 2017, and I'm like, okay, well, I don't necessarily care what they rate it, I'm just going through there looking for albums I haven't heard of, and I can usually find four or five that I've never even heard of, which is, you know, for me, it's pretty fucking crazy, because... And the rest of us just saw 67 of them that we've never heard of. 00:04:53.300 --> 00:05:23.080 So I started wondering, are we so spoiled now that we have so much music? I mean, Bandcamp, there's a new album coming out every freaking day. Every five minutes. Yeah. So I don't know. I think we're definitely spoiled because, you know, you think back to when we were teenagers and the limited access and funds that you had to get new music. It was like maybe you get one or two albums a month if you're lucky. 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:52.660 and God help you if you just bought it on an album cover and it sucked. Well, also, go ahead, John. No, go ahead. It's fine. Well, I just read, and I was looking for a chance to say this today, but I just read Brian Slagle's book. For those of our listeners who don't know, he's the founder and continued CEO, I suppose, of Metal Blade Records, which, and he's kind of a heavy metal hero of sorts. But it was interesting to hear him talk about the early days about how he never received a demo tape he didn't listen to. 00:05:53.300 --> 00:06:22.780 But that wouldn't be the same now. Because, I mean, everything was like the internet back then was the post office, you know. And so it wasn't like he was getting the submissions that he might. Because you can submit your demo to Metal Blade's website and you know they get a hundred a day. A thousand a day. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I used to listen to every album that I received for review. Like, 14 years ago. You know? And now if I listened to everything that we received, 00:06:23.300 --> 00:06:53.260 That's all I'd be able to do. And I still probably couldn't keep up. Jay, you brought up a good point real quick, Jay. I just thought of this. I do this, and I'm sure you guys do this too. When I was a kid, yes, I would comb through these. For those of us who remember the Columbia House? No, before even that. No, like the newspapers. You'd go to the record shop, and you would just comb through these listings, and it would be like where they're from and how much. And the guy would say, I might be able to get it for you in a couple weeks. Okay, I'm in. But now, George will say, or you guys are like, 00:06:53.300 --> 00:06:56.700 I'll check this band out I'll go on to band camp or I'll go on the spot or whatever 00:06:57.140 --> 00:07:23.280 and I'll put it on and within one minute I'm like I'm out of here yeah I find myself doing that all the time and I'm like wait this band might be really good I just might not like this one song and I'm definitely guilty of that somebody I don't know who it was the other day and it may have been at work but the fact that a lot of times you can stream the music right now so you can literally he's like oh check this band out and you could 00:07:23.280 --> 00:07:51.640 Like on Bandcamp, you can stream entire albums if you want to without even paying for it and check it out. Sometimes it's just like a little snippet, especially on iTunes only gives you a minute and 30 seconds. But I'll tell you what, if you have your one premiere song on there on Bandcamp that says, here's our new album, new release, here's a featured song. And with so much music, I don't have time sometimes. Like if I'm going to check out 10 different bands that day or that afternoon, I don't have time to listen to the whole thing. 00:07:51.680 --> 00:08:21.220 If you don't catch me now, in the first 20 seconds, I'm done. Actually, I want to do you one better, Will. I've been meaning to bring this up on the pod anyway. I think Will and I come on iTunes a little bit more than you guys do. I do band camp and stuff, but I think you guys live a little bit more there. Will and I always check out the new stuff on iTunes. I go there too. Yeah, and I go other places as well, so I don't mean to say that. I go everywhere, Jay. Jay, when I'm looking for new music, I come over to your house in the middle of the night and I look through your collection. I look everywhere. 00:08:22.419 --> 00:08:51.640 Dude, that's my underwear. I'm like the reverse Santa Claus, okay? I go to everybody's house in the middle of the night. I have this sleigh drawn by demon reindeer, and I go to everybody's house every night, and I look through everybody's collection to see what they got. Jay, those aren't underwear pants gnomes. It's George. Okay, so to finish my point, so Will is saying, if you don't 00:08:53.699 --> 00:09:21.640 I think if you're in a band and you put some sort of prolonged intro with horses or god knows what and I and I'm out of there every time if I push it if I when I look and track one I never listen to track one anymore because if track one is a minute and 13 seconds long and I'm testing something I'm like I'm not going to listen to whatever weird violin bullshit thing they I mean it might be cool for the record but that's not how I'm going to get to know it and I oftentimes I fast forward through stuff like okay okay okay here's like the first minute there's no 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:51.140 Let me fast forward. Still nothing. Fast forward. Okay. Let me hear about it. I'm out. I'm done. Or sometimes it's like, I like it. And then it'll catch me and I'll buy it. This is why on Bandcamp, when I see an album that interests me and I go to listen to it, I always start with track two. Just because so many times the first track is useless. I mean, sometimes it's their best track, but I always start with track two. If it's less than two minutes, 00:09:51.680 --> 00:10:20.460 I know it's a waste of your time. Yeah. Yeah. If it's like a nine minute opening track, I might start with it, but it's just my rule of thumb. I start with track two. If that is good, then maybe I'll go back to track one. Hey, Jay, I have a suggestion for you in a situation where you find the under two minute opening track. Start with track two. Yeah. Yeah. No, I do. Or if I'm going to go deeper, I'll even go for four or six or something. I'm going to the last track of that. One minute. I'm going to the end. 00:10:22.419 --> 00:10:26.700 The first track is going to be two minutes and one second. 00:10:27.380 --> 00:10:29.820 Yes. With a ton of vocals very early. 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:39.700 But I mean, what happened to the days when you would push the button and you got the opening riff or four wheel burning, you know what I mean? Or something like that. And you were just like, dude, I am hanging around for this. 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:43.720 I wanted to back up a little bit. I said I didn't want to talk over you earlier. 00:10:43.980 --> 00:11:13.280 where you're talking about listening to the first 20-30 seconds of a song. And go back to the 80s. And I remember reading that A&R guys, if you didn't hook them in the first 20-30 seconds, you know, with a cassette, they would take it and they would throw it out the window of the car because it was no good. And I was like, God, how could you possibly, you know, because at the time I was, you know, trying to put together music and, you know, I wanted to, you know, submit music somewhere. 00:11:13.860 --> 00:11:41.300 And I was like, man, that just seems so wrong to sum up something in 30 seconds. And now I get it. Yep. I'll take it even further. Do the album cover art. If I see a Travis Smith album cover, I'm like, oh, I got to check this out. If it's metalcore, I'm like, really ready to tear my eyes out. I'm like, how could you waste this awesome cover on this stuff? And then I'm like, oh, wait, the guy's working. He's going to work for anybody. They're going to pay him. Yeah. 00:11:41.360 --> 00:12:11.340 You know, but to compare this to the old days again, though, well, two things. One, records used to have a much longer shelf life. I mean, anything that's new is old two weeks later or something. But second, like, because information was so slow moving back in the day when we were all kids and like I got Number of the Beast, which is the record I frequently would mention. It was probably my first real life changing metal record. And then I got Killers and I was like, what the fuck is this? Yeah. Like, who is this other guy? Yeah. And I and and because 00:12:11.380 --> 00:12:41.340 because there was no central information resource center for me to go read about that stuff it was hard to find iron maiden records and so it's also just changed the experience you know i mean everything's so completely they'll never be another led zeppelin because there'll never be any more mystery you know it's funny you say that is i was convinced for years i mean up until just a couple years ago that um peace of mind came before number of the beast because i because 00:12:41.380 --> 00:13:11.140 I heard Peace of Mind first on a cassette from a kid who brought it over to my house from Little League practice when I was like 12. And that's the first one I heard. Then like a little while later, I heard Number of the Beast. And up until like literally a couple years ago. Up until the Iron Maiden show just recently, if you listen to that episode. No, but I mean, isn't that funny? We used to have to piece things together more in there. So A, I regret that era of mystery. 00:13:11.380 --> 00:13:41.300 about it. I think it's why a band like Ghost did so well for a while there. And not that they're not doing well now. And I don't know. Yeah, John, honestly, I think there is a little too much. I think I access this a little too high. Well, let me ask you this. I know I'm probably dating a lot of people who might listen, but when I was a kid... You dated a lot of our listeners? You two-time and whore. I get around, man. John's a pimp. Yeah. Well... Will, you have no idea how many ear infections he has. 00:13:41.380 --> 00:13:42.340 was given to people out there. 00:13:45.500 --> 00:13:46.160 Including myself. 00:13:46.710 --> 00:13:46.820 Yeah. 00:13:47.520 --> 00:13:50.700 No, but I mean, we're all roughly in the same age. 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:54.520 I'm probably, what, three years older from the closest person. 00:13:54.610 --> 00:13:58.360 But do you guys remember when you were kids doing, like, listening parties? 00:13:58.450 --> 00:14:02.960 Like, one person would get an album that nobody else had, and you'd all go hang out at their house and listen to it. 00:14:03.300 --> 00:14:04.660 And dub it. 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:05.900 And we're listening. 00:14:06.160 --> 00:14:06.720 Yes, and dub it. 00:14:06.900 --> 00:14:36.880 Yeah, and we're talking about 40 minutes to 42 or 3 maybe max on an album, or a Van Halen album, which was at 30. But you know, I've been getting back into their early stuff a lot again. I'm like, man, these are really 30 good minutes. Yeah, fair warning especially. That's the one for me. Amen. But I mean, I don't know, and I'll throw this out to people who listen to the podcast that are a lot younger than us. I mean, did you do that when you were kids when you were in high school? Did you hang out with your buddies and just... 00:14:36.880 --> 00:15:06.860 I mean, I remember, got the new priest out, got the new maiden out. We'd all like, oh, let's hang out, let's do it. Because that's what we did, because we were outside. We weren't sitting there playing video games all day. We were looking to get in trouble, like physically get in trouble. You know, in my family, because of scarcity, and this was just because my brother and I were young, we would sit down with a list of releases that we knew were coming out, and we would pick them. I would say, I'm going to get the next Iron Maiden, you'll buy the next ACDC, because we couldn't afford to buy a 00:15:06.900 --> 00:15:36.860 of records. And that way we knew those records would both come into our house. But it was still a sort of like we both sort of mutually owned them, but we both knew, OK, that one's yours. And it was just so that we could hear these records. And we would breathlessly come home from the record store, throw it in and just sit there. It was a more in-depth experience when you actually had to sit there either with the vinyl or with the CD. You read the lyrics. You just sat in your room. You didn't have like the Sony Walkman and the CD player came along a little bit later, but you were 00:15:36.880 --> 00:15:38.460 You just walk in a room if you want to listen to that. 00:15:38.920 --> 00:15:41.240 You know, and you just listen to it. 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:50.600 I remember like I know albums from the 80s back and forth way better than I do almost anything. 00:15:51.300 --> 00:15:52.220 Song titles, lyrics. 00:15:52.500 --> 00:15:52.580 Yep. 00:15:52.680 --> 00:15:53.980 They'll play into the song. 00:15:54.060 --> 00:15:55.680 You know, producing lines. 00:15:56.220 --> 00:15:57.360 Yes, everything. 00:15:57.900 --> 00:15:58.460 I used to do that. 00:15:58.560 --> 00:16:00.040 I used to have contests with my friends. 00:16:00.160 --> 00:16:02.840 I'd be like, pick up any of my records, ask me what second song is on the third. 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:03.120 So whatever. 00:16:03.180 --> 00:16:03.600 You know what I mean? 00:16:03.700 --> 00:16:05.400 I was always right. 00:16:06.060 --> 00:16:10.860 But now it's like, and I see, and I think all four of us are guilty of this, 00:16:11.060 --> 00:16:16.320 and you see some of these people that are on Bandcamp who must buy 10 albums a day. 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:19.360 And sometimes, George, I have to admit, I have one of this about you, 00:16:19.460 --> 00:16:21.600 like how can you listen to that much music? 00:16:21.740 --> 00:16:25.380 Because I struggle, and I can listen to music all day at work, 00:16:26.939 --> 00:16:29.320 but I'm working, and it's all in the background. 00:16:29.660 --> 00:16:58.520 It's really hard for me to find time to really get in-depth and listen. And because it's so easy to buy music now, I mean, it's a download, click, done, and I got it. And it's like, okay, well, I just listened. And now we have the box. We get all the promos. So I listen to all these albums, but I don't get that in-depth unless it catches me. Unless it grabs you. Unless it really grabs me. So I listen to, you know, the year-end podcast. 00:16:59.020 --> 00:17:28.020 I listen to about 20 albums, 25 albums. Definitely not 40. Definitely not 40. But even still, I will be the first one to admit when I'm doing my year-end list or a mid-year list, I'm not as intimately involved with those albums as I was in 85. Because in 85, there was only six albums, maybe 10 albums that whole year. 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:58.760 So let me ask, okay, just a quick sidebar. Cause Willie, I'm like you, when I'm in the office, I listen, I got, if I can listen, I got my earbuds in. Yeah. Is anyone else like me, if you're at work and you're listening and then somebody comes up and asks you a question and you stop playing, you're like, Oh, Hey, what's going on? Do you get pissed that you're like, man, I was in my fucking group listening to this album. I was into this. I don't know where I left off. I got to go back and start the song over. Actually, I have that disease, but what it is, is I'll be walking around doing stuff. 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:28.000 And I'll be like singing a chorus to a song or one very specific start to a song in my head. And I'll get back and I'll push play on my iPod again. And it was the next part. It was because my brain is like really trying to close that gap. It's trying to like go. It wants to satisfy what I didn't finish. It's really weird, but it happens all the time. Yeah, it's a lot like your wife. They say that if you've got a song stuck in your head, it's because you didn't finish. It didn't resolve. 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:58.000 And so you need to go back and listen to the whole song again to get it out of your head. Yeah. There's a lot of songs that I hear that I don't want to resolve that are stuck in my head. Yeah. I've been having Sweet Caroline in my head all week because of those stupid commercials where the two people in the crowd just pull up and they're singing it. No, I'm blaming Jay for that because he mentioned it on the last podcast. And I can't, or when, last one we did when we were here and I can't get that damn song out of my head now. Hey, my TV has a mute button. Do you guys not have a mute button? 00:18:58.380 --> 00:19:27.900 You know what does not have a mute button? My children and so many Disney songs. Oh, man. So actually, to share one other interesting fact with you, though, just about the way we consume music, and this is a little bit of an offshoot. Again, I read the Brian Slagle book, and he says, and Brian Slagle would know, because Brian Slagle's been involved in a lot of different big major label deals and all kinds of stuff. He said 10 to 15 years from now, it's going to be all streaming, and the way the money will be made. And he said that Metal Blade right now, 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:57.720 has almost replaced their lost yearly income on physical product just through streaming. Nice. Isn't that crazy? Wait, wait, say this again. Streaming. So like not downloadable music, but like, what's the big one? Like Spotify and stuff? Spotify, yeah. I mean that and whatever else, whoever else does it. I heard Spotify doesn't pay crap. They don't. Well, they may pay it to the labels, I'm wondering, you know, 00:19:57.760 --> 00:20:02.960 because what he says is there it's he says it's close he said in the next two three years 00:20:03.660 --> 00:20:08.100 they'll be matching with streaming what they've lost with physical products yeah but just 00:20:08.270 --> 00:20:13.020 because people don't that's the label talking they're not the artist no you're right well the labels 00:20:13.600 --> 00:20:18.420 and artists uh but labels are going to have more success at it they can negotiate 00:20:20.120 --> 00:20:26.039 well because like taylor swift was like i i don't know if it was taylor swift i think it was 00:20:26.040 --> 00:20:55.840 She pulled out of Spotify. Yeah. But, um, or maybe it was Madonna. Somebody was like, you know, you can only have my music, but I'm getting X amount. And, but obviously not everybody has that kind of pull, but I believe just to clarify though, just, I really want to make a point here real quick, which is this is true. You're right. The labels are getting the money, but just because I've just read this man's book and I trust him implicitly with my soul now, not metal blades case. He's definitely paying his guys. Oh no, of course. 00:20:56.040 --> 00:21:25.140 But Jay, you made me think of something. I got an email. You guys have heard me recently say I'm a big Dark Ambien fan. Huge. I have been for years. And I got an email from an artist that I bought from before. And I've got everything. It's a guy called Northen. He's from Sweden. Or Norway. I can't remember. And I'm probably making myself like a fool saying it. I don't know. But he sent an email to everyone who's bought from him and said, hey, I have a new album coming out. If you guys want it, it'll be on Bandcamp. You can download it digital. 00:21:25.180 --> 00:21:54.280 But if you want the physical copy, I only have 150 right now, email me and let me know. I'm trying to gauge if I need to keep making CDs for people. And I'm thinking, I don't think physical copy will go away, but it's going to go to that form where the artist controls more what they have out there on the lower end, not the bigger end like the Metallica's and all those bands. That's a different world. But for the low end artist, it sounds kind of liberating that you can control how much you're going to sell. 00:21:54.920 --> 00:22:24.660 Brian Slagle talks about exactly that in his book. He said, now we have these target things where, and which by the way, the resurgence of vinyl has been good for him. He said they, in 1982 or no, in 82, whenever the CDs really kicked in was 86, 87 or something. Maybe what? 87. Well, he was 86. Maybe he was a diehard vinyl guy. And he was like, vinyl's never going to die. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And metal blade almost went out of business when it ruined, when CDs really took over because he received the biggest, 00:22:25.420 --> 00:22:54.880 send back of metal blade vinyl that he'd ever received and for two years they didn't have any money coming in because he didn't because he didn't get on top of cds when he should have and now now his his vinyl revenue income is probably doubling his cd all every bit of that that was sent back is gone the warehouse is empty yeah so let me let me ask you this real quick just to clarify something when you say that everything's going to be streaming they're not talking about digital downloads they're talking about literally like streaming services like sound 00:22:54.980 --> 00:22:56.540 and Spotify, right? 00:22:56.640 --> 00:22:59.200 Now you don't even own a file. 00:23:00.740 --> 00:23:00.980 Wow. 00:23:00.980 --> 00:23:02.360 And he seemed confident in that. 00:23:02.370 --> 00:23:04.240 He said 10 to 15 years, that's where it's at. 00:23:04.620 --> 00:23:09.400 I mean, he also, bear in mind, this is a guy who says, like, we're always going to do vinyl, for instance. 00:23:09.780 --> 00:23:15.040 Now that you feel good about reading his book and how you trust him, read Damn the Machine. 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:16.840 You're going to go the other way. 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:18.480 It's sitting right in front. 00:23:18.840 --> 00:23:19.900 Is it really that bad, George? 00:23:20.120 --> 00:23:20.220 Really? 00:23:20.600 --> 00:23:22.320 Well, I mean, just ask Tom. 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:24.020 Thomas Gabriel Fisher, that is. 00:23:24.220 --> 00:23:53.680 Just ask him how bad it is. Oh, man. You know, he removed him. I'm pretty sure it's that grudge match that got that why he backed out of the remasters. Yeah, exactly. That whole thing. I was so bummed. I was like, oh, man, I really wanted to have him involved in those remasters. And he was just like, I'm out of this. Actually, he wasn't to the last minute. I think he only backed out because they didn't accept his liner notes. Which I'm surprised because at that point it was what BMG, I think, owned the rights. 00:23:54.820 --> 00:24:23.920 Not Noise, because I've already forgotten his name. The dude that started Noise, he sold everything to BMG and walked away. So BMG should not give two shits what he has to say about this dude or Noise Records, even though they own Noise Records. Hey, George, three letters. B-M-G. That's all you need to know about them. They're a royal pain in the ass. Apparently. Yeah. 00:24:25.520 --> 00:24:53.440 I just saw something from Tom today that he said, I will never trust a record label again or something to that effect. I didn't read the article, but he's pretty bitter. I deal with that a lot in the upcoming Why I Love Celtic Frost thing that I'm going to have on the website in the next five days or something. I'm finishing it. But a lot of it is that Tom's bitterness drives that machine. I mean, I sort of weirdly admire him for it. 00:24:54.100 --> 00:25:23.880 Well, I'll tell you what, I wish him all the best, him and the band, but I'm kind of actually happy that he's a little bitter right now because I'm hoping the next Tripticon album is just nasty, wicked, you know? Oh, yeah. And that he's channeling that into the music. He claims that Cold Lake, as bad as it is, is because it was the happiest he ever was in his life because he was married at the time and stuff. And it just apparently sucked all of the artistic life out of him. He goes into that in the book. Yeah. Well, there's another company. He's like, I don't know. 00:25:24.040 --> 00:25:52.520 those guys were doing. I was busy doing something else. I was like, yeah, whatever. Well, basically, they were trying. They're like, here, do this, make money. And he was just happy and like going with the flow and going, ah, maybe I shouldn't, you know, be such a dick. I'll just, I'll try what they say. And the producer didn't give two shits. And it was just. You know, it was the tell tell sign on that one. Cherry Orchards. Nope. 00:25:54.060 --> 00:26:23.940 the game logo changed. It went from some cool, evil thing to like, oh, that's very symmetrical. It's very kind of artsy. It's like, oh, shit. Junior high girls are going to love this. Yeah. Marketing genius. George, you need to save that right there. Junior high girls are going to love this. I don't know if you guys want to segue into the new roundtable thing, but one thing, if you got any saved rounds, what we say in the Marine Corps, like, you got anything else to say? But I do want to find out what Lemongret, 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:53.880 What the giant stein that George has been pounding over and over again. Yeah. I have literally, I have nothing before me. I just, I just ate dinner and sat down. Well, you know where I got this? So then you know what's in it. Get to the chopper. Really? You only put bikes in that thing? Today I did. I mean, I thought maybe that was like you were going to try to hold yourself to that. No, 00:26:53.920 --> 00:27:22.620 No, no, just today. Hey, Jay, next year you're going to see that glass and it's going to be filled with quarters. I'm assuming you got a Sierra Nevada pale ale? No. No, Bex. Oh, it's Bex. Oh, you really have Bex in there? Yeah. I'm sorry, like seriously? Seriously. He's a loser, baby. Yeah, well, keg's empty. That's what the corner store had. Did you guys say what you had? I don't know if you guys said what you had or not. 00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:29.980 with DC Brow, local DC Brewery, and their Oktoberfest. 00:27:30.580 --> 00:27:33.180 They will be at Decibelfest 2018, by the way. 00:27:33.280 --> 00:27:34.540 Yep, Decibel Metal Beer Fest. 00:27:35.040 --> 00:27:35.440 I'll be there. 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:39.440 And I didn't get a chance to say how excited I was to find that Monster Magnet was coming. 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:40.240 Yeah. 00:27:40.800 --> 00:27:41.440 Yeah, you're the only one. 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:43.740 Just my little personal, that's my clutch, John. 00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:45.700 I mean, Will, excuse me. 00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:48.560 John and Will, I want you to know that's my clutch. 00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:52.140 I'm going to go ahead and say they're a little more metal, Monster Magnet. 00:27:52.780 --> 00:27:53.400 Thank you, John. 00:27:53.480 --> 00:28:23.440 Oh, man. Shut the fuck up. It's all for fun. I had that recently. The clutch, a sour porter, is it kind of? Yeah, it's a sour porter made by New Belgium. Yeah, I enjoyed it. And now we are drinking the Atlas Brew Works Tomb Essence, which is an Imperial Stout. Oh, I checked in the wrong beer. Oops. What'd you check in? Silent Neighbor? No, I checked in. I thought we were drinking Night of the Living Stout. No, no, no, no. 00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:53.460 I don't know. This is... Wow, I gotta delete that check-in. Well, we're gonna drink it later. Did you give it like five stars because you thought it was so good? Well, it wouldn't make any difference. It's a different beer I checked in. Well, you're gonna drink it in like five minutes. I can go back and edit. Anyway, yeah, it's Imperial Stout made by... My brewery atlas. My peeps. To bring us back full circle. So, I'm actually curious if anyone who's listening can... 00:28:53.500 --> 00:29:20.440 any comments about what we were talking about, about this over amount or excessiveness in music. I think there's way too much for me to keep up. But I'm just curious what people who are maybe younger than us that kind of grew up in this digital age, what they think about it. I have to say, we're coming, all four of us are coming from a certain point of view that has transitioned into this. Well, there's two relevancies here. One is, yes, Jay's transitioning. 00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:51.940 Hey, dude, it's just pills so far back off. But yes, I mean, we were all in our 40s and we we started off on like basically eight track CDs, vinyls cassettes and got into digital age and yeah, cassettes. But also, I think there's a little bit added pressure because we do have the podcast. We do have to keep up on the music. We do have to come up with the mid year list, year end list reviews. 00:29:53.100 --> 00:29:54.560 all the new releases. 00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:56.280 So there's a little bit. 00:29:56.860 --> 00:30:03.280 I personally feel a little bit added pressure to all this to keep up with things. 00:30:03.340 --> 00:30:12.920 And I have to give a shout out to listeners Rick and Greg who via Twitter always send out recommendations because it wasn't for you guys send me recommendations. 00:30:14.040 --> 00:30:18.240 You know the occasional moment that I get to troll on iTunes and Bandcamp or whatever. 00:30:19.800 --> 00:30:21.520 And then we know what the listeners send via Twitter. 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:50.680 I'd be kind of lost. It's valuable. So if you're listening, keep doing it. Not only do I appreciate those guys sending that stuff, but then they'll actually engage us when we post stuff that we're listening to what they sent, which is good because I'm always curious to hear what they have to say about. You know, I thought Greg had posted this, but I don't remember if it was Greg, but it was on Colt Nation, which is this website I really like to go to. I always find some cool metal, mostly black metal from there. But have you guys noticed a trend lately? 00:30:51.840 --> 00:31:21.100 It lasted longer than I know. But where to buy a digital download on Bandcamp, bands are starting to attach it to the purchase of a physical item. I just bought this Ziggy Rot is the name of this black metal band I'm listening to right now on the record. It's just a great record, by the way. And you couldn't have it unless you ordered the cassette. That's a dick, man. I have not seen that. I have seen where they forget decimal points and some things are 666 euros. Yeah. 00:31:24.220 --> 00:31:50.400 It stopped me from buying records before, and I bought this one because I really liked how it sounded, but it was, they got me a cassette, which I don't fucking need a cassette, you know what I mean? Do you have a cassette player? Fuck no. But I wanted the download. I had to do it to get the download. Hey, Jay, do you have a pencil? I will say this is pretty cool looking, but I mean, whatever. What, your pencil? I should have waited until it's sold out. 00:31:51.860 --> 00:32:21.220 Not the size of your pencil, it's how you write your name, buddy. It's the number of your pencil, number one, number two, number three. Absolutely, dude. Let me see if anything Calistoga is burning yet. I wanted to circle back around to one thing that Will had mentioned, and he asked about all the music that I get on Bandcamp and how the hell I listen to it all. First of all, I don't listen to all of it thoroughly. I do my best, but some things I pick up and it's just, eh. 00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:51.520 It's not as cool as I thought it was when I picked it up. But I've always been guilty of that. Because you can push the button so fast, you know? Sure. But I mean, even back in less so in the cassette era, but more so in the CD era, I would pick up things and listen to it once and then never listen to it again. And do you remember we've talked about before? Do you remember just picking stuff up based on the cover art? Sure. Yeah. And I'd be like, oh, there's no way to preview it. Yeah. And I'd be like, oh, well, that sucks. 00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:20.780 I call it like bandcamp goggles. Because I'll go and I'll check out something. I'll listen to a few clips and be like, that's awesome. I'll put it in my wish list for later. I'll come back later and listen to it and either be like, what the hell was I thinking? I don't understand why I did this because this sucks. But sometimes I don't realize that until after I pick it up. And then I'm like, oh, that kind of sucks. 00:33:21.560 --> 00:33:49.380 What I've noticed is my Bandcamp wishlist is almost as long as my actual collection, numerically. Mine's like, well, no. But I have too many in my collection. But I do have like over 100 in my wishlist, I think. Because what happens is like, oh, I want to check that out later. And then I just never go back and check it out. My wishlist is two right now. Because I actually go through, I have a purge session like once a month. 00:33:49.500 --> 00:34:19.460 I don't want to see them there because I feel like I even need to buy them or get rid of them. So I want them to change the wish list to. I'll check this out later. Well, you know, I wrote to them recently. Yeah, a bookmark. Yeah, I went to their like feedback or whatever. It was like to bitch about like something that didn't work. But I I wrote them something nice. And so they actually wrote me back like within a day. And I was. Yeah, Bandcamp. I was like, you know. Dear Bandcamp. 00:34:19.500 --> 00:34:48.580 Bandcamp. One time at Bandcamp? Because one time at Bandcamp, I bought some music and I dug it in my... Actually, it would be better if it was Dear Mr. Bandcamp. Yeah. Since I am sure that is how your company got its name. Well, you know, I put things in my wish list, particularly if it's a pre-order and it's not out yet. So I want to put it in there to remember to come back to it. And every Friday, you know, there's new releases and I go to my wish list and I have to go, 00:34:49.120 --> 00:35:19.000 Which ones were pre-orders now? Like, is this one out yet? And I open, I have to, I go through and open up like 20 of them going, is this out yet? Oh, no, that's not till November. You don't get a notification or something? Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. And so I wrote them. I was like, hey, you know, it'd be really nice if like in my wishlist there, I could see that something hasn't been released yet so that I don't have to open it up to know whether it's been released or not. And they wrote me back and very friendly, kindly told me what a dumbass. 00:35:19.140 --> 00:35:48.740 I am because if you use the iPhone app, it tells you that. It says pre-order. Yeah. I was like, oh, yeah. It's on the app on your phone or tablet. It's not on the website. Yeah. And they're like, so they were very kindly like, yes, we don't have everything right now on the webpage, but if you use the app, it does show that. And I'm like, well, why can't you put it on both? And then you kindly respond to it with, then you need to fix the website because you're pissing me off because I want to buy another 50, 00:35:49.280 --> 00:36:18.440 albums today. Exactly. They should look at my collection and jump, you know, this guy's a player here. We need to do whatever Mr. Washburn says. We're going to comp him a few albums. All right, well, why don't we go ahead and move on to the news? So this first item isn't exactly metal news. 00:36:19.120 --> 00:36:49.020 It's not remotely metal news. But as a big fan of Tom Petty, I just wanted to obviously announce that he had died. And how much that sucks. I've been a huge Tom Petty fan for, well, since I was in high school. So in the 80s, it was shocking to me. I mean, you know, three-fifths of the Traveling Wilburys are gone. And all we got is Dylan and Jeff Lynne. Yeah, that's it. Which, you know, Dylan's nothing to sneeze at. But, uh, but dang. 00:36:49.120 --> 00:37:19.080 I just saw today that they're investigating it. Which doesn't mean anything, but apparently they're investigating it. Well, you know, also like how do you investigate cardiac arrest? Well, here's the thing. You know what they said? They said they investigated if the person who dies. Hadn't been to the doctor in six months or something like that. Seven. No, seven years. Oh, so apparently Tom Petty hadn't been to the doctor in seven years. Well, damn. Which means very little to me. But I mean, he just 00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:48.400 I think it was seven years, so maybe don't quote me on that, but it's too late because there it is. So that was something that prompted the investigation apparently. So I had probably just plugged his heart up some while. I ate too much red meat or something. Or it might have been just his time, unfortunately. Yeah, absolutely. A gazillion cigarettes. At least he timed it until right after they finished their 40th anniversary tour. Now known as the farewell tour, but go ahead. I was going to say, it's interesting you say that because I just saw Bob Seger. 00:37:49.100 --> 00:38:18.860 We went to Pittsburgh to see him. She's a huge fan. And she's like, you know, we should see him because he's in his 70s now. We don't know how long he's going to play. So we went up and saw him in Pittsburgh. I knew every song because everything he has has been a hit. It's crazy. And that was, what, 17 and 18 of the 20 songs he played. I was like, holy smokes, this guy is prolific. But what we didn't know is he canceled the tour right after our show because he saw a doctor. He has a vertebrae issue. 00:38:19.120 --> 00:38:48.420 And he had to cancel like another 15 dates or 12 dates. And I'm thinking, these guys are all at this point in their careers. This can end at any given day. And it made me think of Tom Petty. I put the two together because he just finished that tour and was talking about this might be the last big tour I ever do. It's crazy how this is happening so fast. It is. It's going to start happening to all the 80th trash guys soon. It is, yeah. It is. It is happening. 00:38:48.720 --> 00:38:50.860 You listened to Tom Petty in high school. I remember 00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:52.640 listening on FM radio 00:38:53.220 --> 00:38:54.480 when I was, you know. In preschool? 00:38:55.080 --> 00:38:56.240 No, I was actually in grade school. 00:38:57.380 --> 00:38:58.980 But I remember when his stuff came out, you know, 00:38:58.980 --> 00:39:00.480 in the late 70s. I remember listening on the radio. 00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:01.760 Oh, yeah. I mean, I listened to 00:39:02.620 --> 00:39:05.340 stuff on the radio, but it wasn't until 00:39:05.720 --> 00:39:07.760 Full Moon Fever that I actually went out and bought something. 00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:09.740 Oh, see, I'm going all the way back to 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:12.140 She's a Woman and The Waiting. Those songs always stuck with me. 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:14.320 Oh, yeah. I cut my teeth on that 00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:15.040 stuff when I was a kid. 00:39:15.640 --> 00:39:17.640 Yeah. I loved his stuff. 00:39:18.420 --> 00:39:47.120 And I just spent like two, three days just like listening through from beginning to end his discography. You know, it's so strange too because he died on the day of the terrible Vegas tragedy. And that's so, had he died at any other time, there would have been even more focus on that than there was. But it wasn't. He sort of missed that spotlight moment a little bit. He got backpaged. A little bit, he did. I mean, I was at the gym the next morning. 00:39:47.340 --> 00:40:17.320 Well, like the morning that he was, you know, there was the whole snafu of is he dead or is he not dead the night before. And then the next day, a lot of it. Yeah. Then the next day when he was officially dead, I was at the gym and, you know, they got the whole row of TVs and shut the fuck up. Well, and all the TVs have the Vegas thing, which of course is to be expected. But I went almost an hour watching this news and like nobody covered Tom Petty at all. Like it had never even happened until like the very end, like two of 00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:47.120 them dead. So anyway, you know, Tom will be missed. He's an icon, so it sucks. It does. Oh, one, just one quick more, Boise. 69? 66. 66. Yeah, that's not old these days. Not at all. Someone else will be missing, but for a completely less fatal reason. The vocalist, guitarist, Tommaso Riccardi of Flesh God Apocalypse has left the band. And apparently their drummer, 00:40:47.360 --> 00:41:17.220 is going to be moving into the vocal position and somebody else is going to be taking over drums. That is almost Rolo Tomasi. Do you guys know Rolo Tomasi? Nope. Okay, sorry. It's from a movie, L.A. Story. Do you guys see L.A. Story? Nope. Do you have a crickets button over there, Georgie? Thank you. So actually my example was better. It's just like Genesis when Peter Gabriel left and Phil Collins stopped. 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:47.160 playing drums and came to sing. Fair enough. Well, hopefully, I know you're not going to think that that had a good result, but I kind of liked it. So maybe, maybe it'll work out. It took a couple albums and then it went to shit. Yes. I love me, Phil. Anyway, we already covered that. So Witchery released a video for a second song off of their forthcoming album. And this song was called Of Blackened Wing. And I don't know if anybody else listened to it, but. 00:41:47.720 --> 00:42:17.300 I liked this one too. Yeah, it's badass. Yeah, I watched the video. Starts off a little mid-tempo and then kind of takes off more like this stuff on the last record. I actually like this song a little better than the other song, though they're both good. Yeah. I have high hopes. This would probably be a lister. If they're hitting on all cylinders like they were in the last one, we'll expect good things from this. Sotharian is going to release a triple album metal opera called Beloved Antichrist. 00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:46.920 Christ on January 26th. There's supposedly 29 different characters, presumably 29 different vocalists, and it's three and a half hours of music. Is this an Arian release? Is Arne up to this again? This is, what's his name, Christopher? Did they do that? He's given a big old middle finger to, what the hell's his name, the Ed Guy guy, the Aventasia guy, Tobias? 00:42:47.340 --> 00:43:17.300 Tobias. Tobias. Yeah, whatever. He's like, screw you, I'm going to make something even longer. And it's going to be evil. I don't know. I like Therian. I'm a fan of them. But I haven't been a fan of the last few albums. I just kind of got tired of it. But I'll check it out and see what it's like. Hopefully it's interesting. You almost have to. I mean, it's just like The Bell of Witch. It's sort of faded to not really probably. It's just that demands a lot. 00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:44.920 of a person, you know, so we'll see. I guess, I guess Therian's back catalog, if you know anything about them, like Thelia and it was a Volvin or whatever, those albums were just so good. I thought that I guess he gets a pass. We'll see what it's like, but yeah. Yeah. I don't know how you pronounce it. I always called it Theli, T-H-E-L-I, but I'm sure that's not right. Right. But yeah, pretty much from there to earlier is good stuff. And pretty much anything after that has been questionable to me. 00:43:46.920 --> 00:44:16.560 I go up to the double album that came out in 2004, which was Cirrus B and Lemuria. I thought that was right. That was it for me right there. Unfortunately for us, we're going to have to listen to three and a half hours of this because that's kind of what we do here. So you're welcome. We're going to do it so you don't have to. Hold on. There's 29 singers. I will take singers one through seven. Exactly. Well, it's 3.4 hours. Here's what I suggest. 00:44:16.740 --> 00:44:46.040 We each take an hour and Will can take 30 minutes. Will will put it on for a minute. He's like, I don't like this crap. I'm out of here. And then Jane and I will be like, I'll take the 30 or the 28th singer. You take 27. Yeah, I'm down. All right. All right. Sater of Satyricon says he would like to finish a long overdue cover album next year that would feature songs from Venom, Black Sabbath and others. 00:44:46.760 --> 00:45:14.860 I was curious what a black metal guy like that would cover. Would he be covering Celtic Frost and Bathory and stuff like that? But Venom and Sabbath make sense. He's old like us, dude. So it's going to be the stuff that really pushed him in the direction. I love that all those old black metal guys admit that they had Kiss posters on their walls. You know what I mean? Because they were so like posers. Where do you think the face paint came from? I have this little metal toy shelf. 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:45.540 diamond thing. Are you getting that statue? Rock icons thing. Yeah, I have to. And it occurred to me that all the toys that I have on my little metal toy shelf are all bands with makeup. Every last one of them. I've got some Kiss thing up there, but it's from a Live One era. Then I've got Nurgles up there. I've got, well, I have to go look at it, but it's all people with makeup. And I thought, people would think that I'm only into show bands. You know what I mean? 00:45:46.760 --> 00:46:16.720 I've got the King Diamond coming and an Alice Cooper one coming too. You need a Lemmy. You do need a Lemmy. There's a new one coming out, but I don't like how it looks. It doesn't look that good. Yeah. I'll be honest with you guys. You know I'm not super big on covers, but I was interested in reading that, whatever, where I saw this. He was like, you know, we kind of just started doing it, and it turned out way cooler than we thought it ever would. I was like, okay, it might actually be interesting to listen if they actually didn't think it was going to be that great to start with, and it turned out much better than they thought it would be. Maybe I'll give 00:46:16.740 --> 00:46:45.380 Well, I agree, John, on that count. But I also find that a lot of the black metal bands have been real successful with covers. They've made what I consider successful covers. And it's because almost without exception, they have obviously a very different take on it. They tend to black metalize them a little bit. You know, like the Ice to Earth covers album killed me. I hated that. Just to do these weird carbon copy versions. 00:46:45.600 --> 00:46:49.540 with guitars that just sounded wrong was just not cool. 00:46:50.600 --> 00:46:54.980 Well, that goes back to your John's a tool comment from years ago. 00:46:55.210 --> 00:47:02.140 Not years ago, but my feeling on covers, just real quick, is that it has to be something completely different, but you know it's still the same song. 00:47:02.340 --> 00:47:07.700 Or it just has to be so perfectly done that it can't be anything in between, in my opinion. 00:47:07.940 --> 00:47:09.660 That's just me. Who the fuck am I? 00:47:12.380 --> 00:47:13.480 Hi, I'm John. 00:47:14.580 --> 00:47:15.020 Exactly. 00:47:17.019 --> 00:47:44.820 John, did you ever hear, maybe we talked about this once, but did you ever hear, and I want to say it was with Dream Theater, but I guess I forget now, but Bruce did a bunch of, Bruce Dickinson did a bunch of covers with somebody. I've heard them, and I'm trying to remember if it was Dream Theater or not. They did stuff like Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath, and a bunch of other stuff like that. I do believe he did sing with them once before, and I'm trying to remember the song. They did a, if I remember correctly, Dream Theater had a night off, and they were in London, 00:47:44.900 --> 00:48:14.800 And they decided rather than just do a regular show, they were going to do like a cover show. Just have fun. It was no big deal. If you can stop by, stop by the show. And I thought he showed up. I thought Barney was there too from Napalm Death. I think they did Damage Incorporated with Barney singing. I'll have to look it up. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it was Ronnie Sumpton's theater or whatever. It's part of their Change of Seasons album. The first part of that is the song, A Change of Seasons, which is like, 00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:44.380 Where was it? In London? It was in London. Ronnie Scott's? Ronnie Scott, yeah, that's what it is. I only know that because of the Jeff Beck thing. Yeah, well, that's the other album, yeah. But I'm almost positive Bruce sang a song with them. I could have sworn. And I want to say, did he sing Perfect Strangers with them in the studio once, I think? Okay, that's probably the cover. That's with, yes, that is. And I think that I do think Sabbath Place was with somebody else. And then, because he's a studio version of it. But absolutely, he does a Perfect Strangers one. 00:48:44.900 --> 00:49:14.840 It's interesting, just real quick, I don't know how many people are dream theater fans, but way back when they did Perfect Strangers, they did none. Yeah, well, you can just go back to listening to Cannibal Corpse in your basement. They, uh, you're listening to Cannibal Corpse in my basement. No, I'm listening to you right now in your basement. Um, they did the cover with Bruce, but apparently when they play that song live eons ago, everybody changed instruments on the song. So, Portnoy was like playing bass and somebody who was playing keys was playing guitar. 00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:18.340 I mean, they all switched instruments and played it. It didn't sound very good. 00:49:20.060 --> 00:49:21.320 It's a great end to that story. 00:49:21.410 --> 00:49:23.100 But I commend them for trying. 00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:26.900 And I think they used a band name. They were Nightmare Cinema for that one song. 00:49:26.900 --> 00:49:28.380 I was like, it's a nightmare, all right. 00:49:29.020 --> 00:49:29.960 Like Bent Brother. 00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:32.240 Or Spastic Children. 00:49:32.740 --> 00:49:33.620 Spastic Children. 00:49:34.020 --> 00:49:35.300 Does anybody know who that is? 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:36.840 I know Jay does. 00:49:37.250 --> 00:49:38.640 Or like the Clutch Fans Podcast. 00:49:39.020 --> 00:49:39.880 I dodging the question. 00:49:40.560 --> 00:49:41.940 Shut the fuck up! 00:49:44.740 --> 00:50:12.000 George put on here that there and this is our next news item that there's been a lot of talk about the in-progress new Judas Priest album Andy Sneap is producing this one which I noticed myself that could be interesting yeah there's a lot of rumors swirling around this album that there's not much talk of what's his name who's the guy who's replaced K.K. Downing it's a fault there Richie yeah there's that they're not mentioning him and K.K. Downing's 00:50:12.040 --> 00:50:42.000 This whole golf resort thing kind of fell through. Did you see that? Oh, that was so terrible. Wait, wait, wait. What's this? He, when he retired, he has a, I guess, a golf course he owns. He wanted to build golf. He wanted to build this huge. I thought you said goth. I was like, what? Sorry, sorry, go ahead. As in stick and balls. In Missouri, they say goth. Yeah, but apparently that went under. So you read that, Jay. It was kind of a sad story to hear. He really wanted this to work out. It kind of went under, but now there's rumors. Is he back in Judas Priest? And I'm like, oh God, here we go. I don't think, I don't think he 00:50:42.020 --> 00:50:47.260 is first and foremost but i but that would be awesome i hope he didn't you know and i really mean this a 00:50:47.420 --> 00:50:51.420 because he he does a pretty cool thing called metal shop i think it's called and kk actually 00:50:51.700 --> 00:50:55.600 supports a lot of underground bands and black metal bands and stuff i mean he's not afraid of that 00:50:55.610 --> 00:51:01.620 stuff and he makes clothes and he you can't get a balloon oh my gosh but i'm a little concerned i hope his 00:51:01.700 --> 00:51:06.180 whole personal fortune didn't go down the tubes of this thing agreed well george you you said it would 00:51:06.180 --> 00:51:10.740 be cool if he came back in the band uh the wherever i was reading it the comments somebody said 00:51:10.740 --> 00:51:13.980 Don't get rid of Richie, just add KK back to the band like Maiden. 00:51:14.240 --> 00:51:14.360 Yeah. 00:51:14.560 --> 00:51:15.420 And just have three guitars. 00:51:15.510 --> 00:51:17.660 I was like, you know, that actually would be kind of cool if they did that. 00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:18.320 Could be, yeah. 00:51:19.940 --> 00:51:21.060 But I don't think so. 00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:22.620 I think he's done. 00:51:23.180 --> 00:51:25.920 I just hope Andy Sneap makes a record that sounds good. 00:51:26.010 --> 00:51:29.400 I mean, you know, look what happened when he did the Megadeth album. 00:51:30.600 --> 00:51:30.780 Oops. 00:51:30.990 --> 00:51:32.160 You know, United Abominations. 00:51:32.490 --> 00:51:33.140 That was awesome. 00:51:34.220 --> 00:51:35.120 Yeah, but they haven't been. 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:36.420 We'll see. 00:51:36.700 --> 00:51:39.540 They just haven't been writing off the charts, you know, like these last. 00:51:39.940 --> 00:52:09.120 Well, I was hoping maybe he might help with that, you know? Question that. Okay, fair enough. So Sneap did, what was the first time he did? The last one was Ram It Down. Basically the classic era of Priest. What? No. Andy Sneap did those? No. Yeah. No, Andy Sneap's the modern dude. Andy Sneap is the guy from Sabbath or whatever it is. Yeah. He wasn't producing back then. No, he would have been like a kid during Ram It Down. Like he would have been all right. 00:52:11.279 --> 00:52:12.400 I think of someone else. 00:52:12.640 --> 00:52:12.980 You are. 00:52:13.140 --> 00:52:16.840 His name's Chris Sangarides or some fucked up thing like that. 00:52:17.080 --> 00:52:17.920 I know who you're talking about. 00:52:17.990 --> 00:52:18.960 And he was like their merch. 00:52:19.640 --> 00:52:19.980 Got it. 00:52:20.090 --> 00:52:20.180 Okay. 00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:26.600 And Andy Sneap, for my money, first of all, I'm an Andy Sneap believer. 00:52:27.619 --> 00:52:34.020 And he is the guy who, for instance, made the Nevermore albums that sound so good, sound so good. 00:52:34.680 --> 00:52:39.000 And then I honestly think those were the ones where people were really like, we got to get a hold of this guy. 00:52:39.080 --> 00:52:39.340 Yeah. 00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:46.240 This is his first like really super classic high visibility band, isn't it? 00:52:46.240 --> 00:52:47.580 Well, I mean, Megadeth was pretty bad. 00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:48.740 Oh, excuse me. 00:52:49.560 --> 00:52:50.740 Maybe I'm thinking of the producer. 00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:58.640 There's some guy that they have on this record who did from like British Steel all the way up to Ram It Down. 00:52:59.060 --> 00:53:01.220 Oh, you know, I think they're recording it at his. 00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:01.760 Yeah, you got it. 00:53:01.900 --> 00:53:04.060 I think they're recording it at that guy's studio. 00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:06.260 Let me look it up real quick. 00:53:06.640 --> 00:53:06.880 You're right. 00:53:06.980 --> 00:53:08.880 The producer, the engineer, whatever. 00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:38.800 Yeah, no, you got it. Yeah, he brought that guy. Keep talking. I'll look it up. Anyway, what is interesting to me is that everything I read about the new Priest album coming out. Fake news. They're like, oh, yeah. They keep saying, like, oh, this is going to be really back to the classic Priest sound. Like, what is the classic Priest sound? Because they've been around for, like, 40 years. I don't know. There's, like, four different versions of the band. I apologize. It's Tom Allum. And Tom Allum is the guy who mixed. 00:53:38.900 --> 00:54:08.520 Screaming for Vengeance and so on and so forth. So yeah, you got it. And they did it, I think, in his facility or something like that. Right. So it's an attempt to capture the past after a fashion. We'll see. I mean, if it's anything, I mean, my favorite is Defenders of the Faith. Yep. I followed by Painkiller. But Screaming for Vengeance, whoever did Turbo should be killed. And I like Turbo. If you know their history, anyone out there, they kind of had these every two albums, 00:54:08.660 --> 00:54:38.620 they kind of changed their sound just they tweaked it enough and you can you can really go back this is before painkiller start with ram it down because ram it down and turbo the same album basically just divided up by the label but you can go back every two albums they have a similar sound screaming for vengeance and defender's faith are kind of similar yes they are point of entry and bird of steel are kind of similar uh hellbent for our killing machine i should say yeah hellbent for leather hair and stain class similar sound right sin after sin and sad we into destiny similar sound they have 00:54:38.660 --> 00:55:06.800 Absolutely. And so I never thought about that, but you're totally right. And I have a hard time. You are a genius. Don't record that, George. Yes. Take that out. Take that out. My IQ is 69. Oh, yeah. Yeah. For what it's worth, Sean, that is a known trajectory to me. I agree with you 100%. What's the compliment to Painkiller? There is none because Painkiller is the anomaly. Okay, I was going to say. 00:55:10.560 --> 00:55:38.620 I would agree with that because I think Turbo with all the keyboards and that was in the hair metal era but I think but Ram It Down is to me a better way better album and I think it's closer to but Ram It Down and Turbo were recorded together though I thought they were but they took the heavier songs and put them on Ram It Down and the more commercials ones on Turbo but that's why I call it the slightly the sister of that one because I mean the thing that was startling about Painkiller was how fucking heavy it was 00:55:38.620 --> 00:56:08.020 I hate it. I mean, it wasn't just... Yeah, I did too. You still hate it? I don't still hate it, but when it came out, I hated it because it was... His vocals are annoyingly screechy, not like usual, and it was obvious that they were trying to keep up with the thrash bands, and it was just a complete and total poser kind of effort as far as I'm concerned. Yes, it's their heaviest album. You are out of your mind. It's their heaviest album, but I did not like it, and I still don't particularly like it. 00:56:08.040 --> 00:56:37.960 In the same room, John and I would beat the living crap out of you. I was on the exact same page. I swear to God, I was just like, oh, priest is just trying to be slated. High five, brother, high five. Now that stated, I like it now. Let's put this in perspective. This is after Turbo and Ram It Down. They got rid of their drummer who has a checkered past now that we found out. And they brought in Scott Travis who completely rejuvenates the band. They're like, eh, he's trying to pose. This goes back to my eyes are too. 00:56:38.020 --> 00:57:08.000 much music and people whining god damn it now i'm mad no no but look in george and i's defense we were also what how real we were yeah you have a bullshit opinion yeah no and we were like it was like testosterone for with me i was just like i was like i need heavier stuff every stuff and i was like who and i loved priest but i was just like oh they're trying to be like all these other bands i like now and i so yeah it's like like well and i were like painkiller and george and jay were so like turbo lover yeah i was like show no mercy or whatever 00:57:08.040 --> 00:57:09.000 or whatever it was. 00:57:09.190 --> 00:57:10.820 Yeah, they were like, oh, Johnny B. Goode. 00:57:10.900 --> 00:57:14.580 This just proves that you can't ever make a metal fan happy. 00:57:15.490 --> 00:57:22.760 You know, Metallica's next album could be their painkiller, where they come back and they're just roaring out with death and black metal. 00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:25.820 And it could be the heaviest thing they've ever done. 00:57:26.250 --> 00:57:31.640 And they would still catch hell, because then everybody would be like, oh, they're just trying to be like the bands today now. 00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:32.960 It's not relevant anymore. 00:57:33.640 --> 00:57:36.280 And I would be on that bandwagon, probably. 00:57:36.740 --> 00:58:05.580 So you're criticizing yourself there is what you're doing. Yeah, I am. But hey, yeah. I'm saying we can't take ourselves. If Alica made that album, I would be the first one to rejoice because I've said it many times. They owe us. They owe the old dudes like us who saved our allowance money to buy their albums, to make them who they are today. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And make things like load and reload so George could catch it right on his chest. 00:58:05.660 --> 00:58:35.580 So let me have but I want to prove a point about priest. When George heard Painkiller for the first time. I bet we I bet with maybe the exception of George and well I'm guessing I bet we all have a different favorite Judas Priest record that that is a band that. No Jay you and I are on the same page Jay. All right so let's go around Jay what is it? Stained class. Stained class all the way. Defenders of the Faith. Defenders of the Faith. Okay. 00:58:35.660 --> 00:59:04.780 50-50 split. If it was less smart people. In an average group of four, you're going to get a Screaming for Vengeance. You're going to get definitely some Defenders of the Faith. That's my favorite 80s record, but my favorite overall is... I actually prefer 70s to 80s, believe it or not. Will and I had this conversation about Screaming for Vengeance and Defenders of the Faith. I don't even remember that. You're old place. It was only because of our age. 00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:34.600 because I was a little bit older and I had heard Scream for Vengeance first. No, I heard it first too. No, but I mean, that's the one I got into, but you said, I thought you said Defenders of the Face is the first one you really got into. Well, it is. It's not the first one I heard, but the first one that I still absolutely love every song on, that is to me their best record ever. It's awesome. Best song on that record. It might be their... The Sentinel? Singular most metal record, you know? Yeah, Job Breaker. 00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:35.700 Come on. 00:59:35.700 --> 00:59:35.720 Come on. 00:59:36.250 --> 00:59:36.860 Oh, wait, wait, wait. 00:59:36.860 --> 00:59:37.280 Jawbreaker. 00:59:38.120 --> 00:59:38.560 Jawbreaker. 00:59:40.060 --> 00:59:40.160 Yeah. 00:59:41.180 --> 00:59:42.480 Actually, I have to be honest with you. 00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:43.860 I just put Jawbreaker together. 00:59:45.640 --> 00:59:46.740 Oh, the first time. 00:59:47.460 --> 00:59:53.240 AJ, I was there when Will had his revelation about that song. 00:59:53.240 --> 00:59:55.000 He went, oh, yeah. 00:59:55.330 --> 00:59:56.520 And I went, hello. 00:59:58.120 --> 00:59:59.480 You know, when I lived in Arizona. 01:00:00.740 --> 01:00:01.940 He's like, no. 01:00:02.050 --> 01:00:03.360 I might go read those lyrics. 01:00:03.600 --> 01:00:33.520 I bet you know what a jawbreaker is. When I lived in Arizona, he lives in Phoenix or did live in Phoenix. And this was well before he came out. But everybody knew he was gay. And because he had a boyfriend, he lived in Phoenix, and people just knew that. So a friend of mine was saying. Everybody in Phoenix has a boyfriend. Well, that's just it. That's no joke. A friend of mine goes. So the joke, there's this friend of mine, and he was talking about Rob Halford once. And I said, you know, he's gay. He lives in Phoenix. And my friend was like. So every time, if homosexuality, 01:00:33.580 --> 01:01:03.560 ever came into a conversation. And somebody would say, so-and-so's gay. Does he live in Phoenix? This guy just hounded me to death with this thing. He's gay. He lives in Phoenix. Did he follow with, does he know Rob Halford? I saw him live in Tucson one time when Fight's first record came out. Might have been the loudest thing I've ever seen in my life. I walked into this club and the doors were going, just wanting to blow open. And it was insane. They were so good. All right. All right. So, Beck, I think we're 01:01:03.620 --> 01:01:33.560 We're still doing new somewhere. Yeah. Somehow we got onto our second round table, but in a different way. Yeah. Yeah, we did. So I saw an article that said that Trypticon is looking for a new drummer because the last one decided he wanted to do something else, which is insane to want to play for a new band other than Trypticon. But so they're looking for a new drummer to continue working on their third album, which leads me to 01:01:33.620 --> 01:02:03.080 that 2018 may finally see another trypticon record. I hope that is the case. It's come up a few times, you know. I'm down. What was the last one? 13 or 14? 14. Oh, I thought you were asking the name. I was going to like, I can't say it out loud, bro. Yeah, you're kicked off the podcast. No, it was 14, I think. I think so. Because George, it was your number one in 2014. It was George's number one, but it was 15, 16. Yeah, it was 14, you're right. And it's good. 01:02:03.240 --> 01:02:33.200 It's great. It's the best Trypticon record. So hopefully they have an upward trajectory like that. We'll see. And I don't think I have to repeat that I love him and what he does. I do think he's a little bit better. I think Martin Ayn is an important foil or counterpoint to him. So I think he does his best stuff with Martin Ayn. But that stated, Trypticon is awesome. Meaning I think he and Martin Ayn, that the best Celtic Frost stuff is that. 01:02:33.760 --> 01:03:03.100 Do you like Celtic Frost or Trypticon more? Celtic Frost, hands down. But the new, that last Trypticon record is just as every bit as good as George is willing to say it is over and over and over. It's great. It's fucking awesome. You know, I think it, I'm sorry, John. I think it was when I was reading the Damn the Machine, Machines? One of the, I don't know, the book. I think it was there that I read that Celtic Frost actually fell apart, not, 01:03:03.240 --> 01:03:04.300 because of Martin, 01:03:05.010 --> 01:03:07.600 but because of whoever their drummer was on, 01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:08.180 on, 01:03:08.180 --> 01:03:13.920 on monotheist that apparently this drummer guy was like, 01:03:13.930 --> 01:03:15.320 just not committed or whatever. 01:03:16.020 --> 01:03:19.780 Like Tom cut him in like, 01:03:20.300 --> 01:03:25.160 like as Metallica would with say Rob cut him in as like a full member, 01:03:25.940 --> 01:03:27.900 like equal benefits for everything, 01:03:28.130 --> 01:03:28.500 you know, 01:03:29.230 --> 01:03:31.260 all for one and one for all you're part of the team. 01:03:31.380 --> 01:04:01.340 and the dude just was like not bringing it after monotheist and that tom just got like it kind of crushed him that this guy was not dedicated to the band and that that's why he shut down celtic frost i thought it was something between him and martin no he um actually you've seen that little documentary haven't you that um dying god coming into living flesh it's called it's um of that tour it's a it's a like just it's not that long it might be 30 minutes long but you watch it on youtube and they have actually they actually is a 01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:31.340 a picture of them or a video of them fighting on the bus with the drummer saying dude what the fuck this is a great huge show we could take in New Mexico or in Mexico City I mean I want to make I want to make I want to make my living making music and you you don't want to go fucking do this thing I mean they get they get a big fight about it yeah and um and then I if if I'm not mistaken that tour in general was supposed to be longer than it was but the guy crapped out on him yeah I think they do talk about that in the book and so I'm just kind of like well why isn't he working with Martin now still I mean I guess 01:04:31.340 --> 01:05:00.640 Maybe he just wanted a clean fucking slate, but... I would say, Martin owns a business. Yeah. He, like, owns some bars or something. Yeah, some bars and stuff, so he might be... But when I saw them live on that tour, the reunion tour, Martin looked committed to death, you know? Dressed as a priest, thrashing his head around, screaming his head off when his vocal parts... It was amazing. No, but he was... He was the bass player, right? Yeah. 01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:30.180 Yeah, but he does some vocal parts too. Yeah, well, my point being, I kind of like the new bass player boner. Did you ever read Only Death is Real? Parts of it. I haven't gotten through it because it's like a physical book. Understood. But that really shows you how they built that thing up from the ground together. Yeah. You know what? I talk about all this in that silly thing I'm about to post. I just said that because the bass player's hot. 01:05:31.340 --> 01:06:01.300 I know. Just real quick. I mean, Martin's hot. It's a girl. Yeah, I got to meet her. She's hot. You guys are, I mean, I love Celtic Frost, but you guys are bigger fans. Obviously, Monotheus is basically the first Trypticon album, if you think about it, sound-wise. Yeah. Or as the precursor. Would they be any better had he continued as Celtic Frost with those albums that are Trypticon? I mean, would Celtic Frost's aura be even bigger, more massive? 01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:31.320 had continued because monotheist is an unbelievably good album but it sounds nothing like the previous stuff yeah not even close i think it's i think it's again i talk about all this all those stuff because it's meaningful to me but that's i talk about this in an article that i'm going to post on our page let me ask you don't say anything let me ask you would you rather be celtic frost or are you happy the way it is i would rather it was um tom warrior and 01:06:31.360 --> 01:07:01.320 Martin Ane and I wouldn't give a shit what the band was but if it was I would prefer it was called Celtic Frost and as much as I like the Trypticon Records trust me they'd be there'd be an extra edge to them if Martin Ane was there because those guys something about putting those two brains and hands together man there was an extra there was an x-factor thing now that stated it's not a hard you know I also and just to kind of about the point about Monotheos sounding different than anything else I think had technology and budgets and all kinds of things caught up with them in the 80s 01:07:01.340 --> 01:07:30.400 I think Monotheist is exactly where they were headed. Oh yeah, I think they were going that route. Yeah, at some point. Yeah, we waited a lot of years to get it, but there it was. It's the greatest reunion record ever, man. What do you think about Hellhammer? I like him. Yeah, because one of the things in the book was how universally reviled Hellhammer was before anybody knew who they were, before they became Celtic Frost and people got a clue that Hellhammer was cool. 01:07:31.180 --> 01:08:00.540 that they were such a joke to everybody that they couldn't get any work as Hellhammer. And so they changed the name to improve. And, you know. But what it's worth, though, Malcolm Dome or whoever it was still savaged them when Morbid Tales came out. It was just like it's those jackasses from Hellhammer, you know. So it took them a while. I don't think it was really they started to get the kind of reputation they had until. 01:08:02.359 --> 01:08:30.920 Truly until, um, into Megatherion. And then I think, and then I think they have this backwards thing where people look back and say, all these guys actually kind of know what they're doing and they were building to this or whatever. Yeah. Sure. Cool. All right. So one last news item. Wendy Dio is, uh, hinting that there may be, uh, at least three unreleased Dio songs that, uh, could someday see the light of day. Cool. I guess. No hint whatsoever as to Aira. Did she, is there any, 01:08:31.240 --> 01:08:32.839 of what years they were recorded. 01:08:33.109 --> 01:08:34.080 I didn't see anything. 01:08:34.529 --> 01:08:36.180 One would guess that they're more recent. 01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:44.720 But yeah, it'd be awesome if it was like, yeah, there's like, there was like one leftover track from Holy Diver, you know, and, and. 01:08:45.480 --> 01:08:46.759 Last in line or something. 01:08:46.940 --> 01:08:47.100 Yeah. 01:08:47.170 --> 01:08:48.680 Let me ask you guys, let me ask you guys this. 01:08:49.120 --> 01:08:49.940 That's cool and all. 01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:52.440 So what's taken so long to release them? 01:08:52.509 --> 01:08:53.000 I mean, seriously. 01:08:53.700 --> 01:08:54.580 Yeah, well, I even talk about it. 01:08:54.980 --> 01:08:55.140 What? 01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:55.339 Yeah. 01:08:55.490 --> 01:08:57.720 If they're great songs, I'm not saying they're not. 01:08:57.890 --> 01:08:58.500 I haven't heard them yet. 01:08:59.100 --> 01:09:28.759 But if they seem like they're a super song, seem like you want to get this out there. Capitalize. Terrible songs. We got like 97 songs sitting in a vault. They're all demos. And we're just trying to figure out a package. All right, whatever. Yeah, well, that's what they're going to do is they're going to make it like a huge, like full catalog reissue box set. And you have to buy the whole thing to get three songs. Hold on. If they're if they're holy diver songs, then next year would make perfect sense because that's 35 years, isn't it? 01:09:29.100 --> 01:09:59.040 Yes, but I bet they're not. But no, I'm sure they're probably like, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Master of the Mooms. They've already done the whole, well, they didn't do the whole box set, but there's that vinyl box set that came out that's. Mine's a CD version of it, but yes, I know what you're talking about. It's the what years, the whatever record label. The first six albums, yeah. What record label was he in? I've forgotten that. Is it RCA or EMI? Anyway, whatever. Sorry. 01:09:59.100 --> 01:10:29.080 I guess I just wonder when I keep hearing this well we've got three songs we've got three songs and then like next year we've got three songs we'll just release the effing songs already jesus yeah yeah because there's because at some point and well I'm guessing none of them are game changers then it's gonna be a real problem if they wait that much time and then you're gonna be like I waited three years for this bullshit yeah that's my point you're gonna realize it's like when Ozzy released all those extra tracks from Randy Rhodes and it was like an outtake of D which like there's like 47 01:10:29.160 --> 01:10:59.080 versions of that and it's like well we added an extra 13 seconds okay awesome yep yeah all right moving on to new releases first we have the new album from dreadnought awake in sacred waves which okay i actually don't know i'm to be honest with you what kind of thing i'm assuming it's like a stone or doom thing or something not even close okay 01:10:59.080 --> 01:11:28.880 I would email singer. I don't know. I kind of thought it was doomy-ish. It's doomy, but it's got, she has some black vocals here and there. It's a little proggy. It's a little avant-garde. It's kind of all over the place, I think. Okay. So, George, what do you, yeah, no, I mean, I, I bought it. Oh yeah, I like it. I bought it. I like it. I bought the last one too. Uh, maybe the last two or the two. There's three albums with this one. Yeah. I have all three. I, I said to you, George, they're kind of, 01:11:29.100 --> 01:11:59.040 a more avant-garde-ish version of Sabrosa, which is kind of a doomy avant-garde type band. And they're a little more proggy, I think, in Dreadnought, a little more black metal-ish at times. That's helpful. Some long-ass songs on this album. Yes, there are. There's only four songs, and the shortest one is 10 and a half minutes. The longest one is 17 minutes. Isn't the first one 17? 17, yeah. But it's good, though. I mean, it's not like it's 83 minutes. I'm not naming the band that put that out. 01:12:26.060 --> 01:12:28.640 I don't mind Bellwitch. I just don't listen to it. 01:12:29.080 --> 01:12:59.040 Is there any way you can listen to that 80-whatever minutes and find defined breaks where they're actually changing up? Or is it just the same bass riff? No, it changes, and it's actually better than they used to do because as much as I like Four Phantoms, the changes are kind of abrupt in Four Phantoms. It does something for 10 minutes, and then all of a sudden it just changes key, and it's kind of awkward. Whereas with this one, it's more of a gradual change, and it does change into different things, but it does not do enough to rationalize. 01:13:01.380 --> 01:13:29.060 It just does not go enough places I've listened to it a couple times at work and you just kind of drone out and it's I have to say it's just kind of boring I will say this though it's gotta be hands down the best album cover of the year It's amazing I swear to God I'm gonna buy it just for that reason I've got the other ones and I would love to hold that in my hands and look at it but I doubt it'll ever get spun Yeah But then we've got the next album 01:13:29.480 --> 01:13:57.700 The New Enslaved album E, which is finally releasing in two days. And wow, is that a beast. And by that, I mean a good beast. I almost don't want to say too much about it, just because I don't want to say too much about it, except that I love it. It's great. Put it this way, if you're an Enslaved fan and you like everything from them, you will be more than happy with this album. More than pleased. 01:13:57.760 --> 01:14:27.740 It's super interesting throughout. There's just real no dead space on it at all. And I dare to say, I think the clean vocals, as much as I liked them before, I think they're just as good, if not better. Well, you know, there's a member who was not previously singing, who's singing now, and that's him. And it's a keyboard player or somebody, and don't get me wrong on that because I don't remember who he is, but he's not sung on any of their albums before. And he is on... 01:14:27.780 --> 01:14:57.720 a keyboard player. The song River's Mouth, which is the second song. Oh, okay, so it's probably that guy. And he sounds to me like, and I mean this in a good way, I'm talking about maybe Crack the Sky era. He sounds to me like Bran from Mastodon a little bit. His vocals are a little more distinguishable. I think also, and I don't want to butcher their names, so I'll say their bass player is doing more clean vocals too for the first time in a long time. It's great. It's super soft. 01:14:57.780 --> 01:15:27.740 So my two cents on this album is that this perfectly goes back to what we were saying is it just skip the first song because it takes way way too long to get interesting and just go to the second song. No, because the first song is still awesome. But it takes so long. There's such a long. Okay, go to three minutes. Go to that point in the song. But that's my point. But you can do that now digitally. It's not a problem. You're a hypocrite. No, I'm not. I listened to the whole song. I'm not 01:15:28.340 --> 01:15:29.320 It is definitely 01:15:30.620 --> 01:15:31.620 There have been some real 01:15:32.420 --> 01:15:32.960 Words of praise 01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:34.780 Offline by this crew here 01:15:34.990 --> 01:15:35.100 Yes 01:15:35.540 --> 01:15:37.700 And I'm purposely not saying too much about it 01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:39.280 Because I think it's going to be hitting some lists 01:15:39.540 --> 01:15:40.000 And you know 01:15:40.060 --> 01:15:40.800 And not only that 01:15:41.140 --> 01:15:41.660 It's not that 01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:42.620 It's not the 01:15:43.060 --> 01:15:43.840 In album of the year 01:15:43.860 --> 01:15:45.100 I mean I think everyone who's 01:15:45.240 --> 01:15:46.600 Every review that I've read from 01:15:46.780 --> 01:15:47.540 Credible sites 01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:49.120 I think everyone does actually like it 01:15:49.140 --> 01:15:50.100 They're not just saying it because 01:15:50.340 --> 01:15:51.220 It's a cool new album 01:15:51.860 --> 01:15:52.760 And because it's enslaved 01:15:52.960 --> 01:15:53.640 You know because they are 01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:54.520 Kind of like the Darlings 01:15:54.770 --> 01:15:55.240 In some ways 01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:56.719 I like it better than In Times 01:15:56.720 --> 01:16:26.580 I liked End Times a lot. See, I did too. I read people were saying, well, End Times was a step back. I'm like, I thought End Times. I didn't think so. I didn't think it was a step back. I thought it was a step forward for them personally. My take on them is they make great records and every once in a while they make one that just blows you out of the water. Then all of a sudden they have an excellent, like, oh my god, Dark Side of the Moon record or something like that. To me, this is one that fits in that. This is going to be, at least in my mind, it's in their top three. Let's put it that way. For the Progressive era, I think. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not even. 01:16:28.360 --> 01:16:53.260 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Okay. Next, we have the new Exhumed album, Death Revenge. This is their eighth album, and I kind of dig it. I have to admit. Would you like to make a guttural noise here? This is usually where you would go, Exhumed! Or something, I don't know. You're not all over this, Will? Are you talking to me? Yes. 01:16:59.420 --> 01:17:26.660 I think my microphone came unhooked again or something. No, I just expected you to jump in on it. Yeah, it was death metal. That was your cue. Oh, sorry. Yes, I like it. You had one job, Will. One job. Sorry. All right. Well, moving on then. We worked with you. I like it. It's death metal. 01:17:29.660 --> 01:17:55.780 Yeah, it's death metal. What do you want me to say? It's good. Next, we have the new Monolorde album, Rust. This is their third album. And I know a couple people have been anxiously awaiting this album. I actually like it. I mean, you know what you get when you deal with Monolorde? A lot of bass. I can hear the vocals this time, actually. So I like that. 01:17:55.840 --> 01:18:25.820 What was the name of the first album that we all universally loved? Before Veneer. That's Vanyer, by the way. That's the Viking word. Empress Rising. Empress Rising. Empress Rising is, in my opinion, still their best. This one, I think the mono in Monolord really comes out. I've been listening to it a lot. I'm withholding Final Judgment 01:18:25.860 --> 01:18:32.880 on it. I really, really, really want to love it. But I think this is better for you than the 01:18:33.200 --> 01:18:55.480 Paul Bearer. Because at first, you didn't like the first track you heard. Remember when it first came out? I said, I kind of like it. Paul Bearer? No. Oh, yeah. Monolore. And you said, I don't know. This is reminding me of the Paul Bearer album. But you haven't said anything since then. So I figured you liked this one more than the Paul Bearer album that came out. The new one. The new one. Yeah. Heartless. 01:18:55.520 --> 01:19:25.500 Because the Mono Lorde album, I think this new one has a cleaned up sound, but I think they stick closer to what they are in the previous albums than Paul Bearer has from their previous albums. It's more about production on this one being a little bit smoother versus the Paul Bearer, which is both production and it's almost that they backed off on the gain on their amplifiers or something. Yeah, guitar tone and stuff. But I've said it before is that when I did see Paul Bearer live. Yeah, the killer live. The new songs live sound 01:19:25.540 --> 01:19:27.700 a hell of a lot better than they do on the album. 01:19:27.940 --> 01:19:29.700 That's why I sound a lot harder. 01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:32.100 That's why I'm excited to see them at Decibel Fest. 01:19:32.280 --> 01:19:34.640 I imagine that they're going to go over really well there. 01:19:34.730 --> 01:19:35.560 You know, this isn't a... 01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:36.720 That's actually a... 01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:38.360 Did you guys talk about the last podcast? 01:19:38.430 --> 01:19:38.860 I wasn't here. 01:19:39.180 --> 01:19:41.680 Did you guys talk about Decibel Metal and Beer Fest? 01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:42.280 We did not. 01:19:42.660 --> 01:19:43.260 Honestly, no. 01:19:43.480 --> 01:19:43.620 Oh. 01:19:44.120 --> 01:19:45.780 Well, no, because it just got announced. 01:19:47.080 --> 01:19:47.920 After we recorded. 01:19:48.980 --> 01:19:50.000 Yeah, after recording. 01:19:50.380 --> 01:19:50.580 All right. 01:19:50.590 --> 01:19:51.800 Well, we can go back to it. 01:19:52.010 --> 01:19:52.700 Talk about that later. 01:19:53.140 --> 01:19:53.260 Yeah. 01:19:53.740 --> 01:19:54.980 Round table number two. 01:19:55.920 --> 01:20:24.960 The interesting thing too about that Paul Bearer is that I was thinking about that the other day. First off, that came out this year, which seems weird to me. And none of us touched it on it. January, February, yeah. And nobody put it on their mid-year. Not one of us. Am I wrong about that? I don't. We did not. I think it's all right, but I don't find myself going back to it. I think I will go back more to the monolord than I will to Paul Bearer. Yeah. Actually, I'm in the, I'm in the, I find myself in the, 01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:54.980 I don't always compare albums on their own merits. A lot of times I compare the band and the catalog and compare everything. And when you compare the new Paul Bearer Heartless to say Foundations of Burden, which was like number two on my list a couple years ago. Or even well to the EP that just came out. That was good. Yeah. Yeah. Or yeah, exactly. So it's like Sorrow Extendency. 01:20:56.100 --> 01:20:56.900 I just 01:20:58.680 --> 01:21:00.780 on its own it may be a great doom record 01:21:01.040 --> 01:21:02.680 but when you compare it to the previous stuff 01:21:02.740 --> 01:21:04.860 it doesn't hold up in my opinion 01:21:05.080 --> 01:21:06.600 that's the fine line you have to 01:21:07.120 --> 01:21:08.380 see if you can get past that 01:21:09.220 --> 01:21:11.140 right and that's why I'm totally guilty of that 01:21:11.380 --> 01:21:12.000 I'm totally guilty 01:21:13.260 --> 01:21:14.880 well hey you'll be pleased to know 01:21:15.020 --> 01:21:16.000 the sword is in the studio 01:21:18.760 --> 01:21:20.340 there's another one not to get excited about 01:21:20.760 --> 01:21:22.180 well I will say this 01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:24.320 we're looking for the new ZZ Top album 01:21:24.320 --> 01:21:53.840 Yeah, exactly. If we could get Monolord to the East Coast, then I would be very excited because then maybe we can have some Monolord beer. Yeah, so our buddy Steve Jones of Oliver Ailes in Baltimore made a Monolord Rust double IPA. I think it's a double IPA. Yeah, double IPA beer. With the album cover as the can in the album cover. So he's going to... I text him. He's going to save his case, hopefully. Speaking of East Coast, West Coast, 01:21:54.340 --> 01:22:24.060 I forgot to tell you George that Arch Spire, and I'm looking to see where they're from, oh they're from British Columbia, they're getting ready to play here and they had put on, there's a Facebook page here for East Bay Metal Bands and they posted on East Bay and said we need a band to open for us. Nice. Yeah, I sent them a text but I haven't heard from. What band did you recommend to open Jay? Catatonic Society. That's good, well that's good. I should have been like there's some great local bands here, you should know about some of them. Yeah, we're gonna laugh and then Jay's gonna like nail like Warner Brothers, 01:22:24.320 --> 01:22:28.000 record label or something like that and then we're gonna be the dumbass around the corner 01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:37.140 yeah next album next album the second album from dallas toler wade's narcotic wasteland 01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:42.180 is releasing in a couple of days called delirium tremont 01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:50.800 listen all the alcoholics know the answer do you not drink beer come on come on it's the pink it's the pink 01:22:54.120 --> 01:22:56.520 It's the name of a beer, but it's also the name of the 01:22:57.460 --> 01:23:00.060 thing you get from withdrawal from alcohol when you're 01:23:00.420 --> 01:23:01.440 drinking the pink elephant. 01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:05.880 Have you heard it, George? 01:23:06.220 --> 01:23:10.160 It's like Night Tremors. The album? I've only heard the new song Faces of Meth, 01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:13.660 and it was awesome. They're doing a pretty extensive tour, which 01:23:14.320 --> 01:23:18.880 cancels my theory, which I've probably never spoken out loud that he left now because he didn't want to do a lot of touring. 01:23:18.940 --> 01:23:19.660 So I don't know. 01:23:20.720 --> 01:23:21.820 They can't really just do this. 01:23:22.360 --> 01:23:25.620 Yeah, I thought that was it, but they're doing a pretty long States tour. 01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:28.840 I feel like I'm going to have to go buy some now and listen to the album. 01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:30.220 Just because. 01:23:31.120 --> 01:23:31.640 Oh, yeah. 01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:32.520 I tried to look it up. 01:23:32.660 --> 01:23:33.880 It's not on Bandcamp or anything. 01:23:34.180 --> 01:23:36.680 No, I'm not sure where that's going to be available. 01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:39.560 You know, it's weird. 01:23:40.320 --> 01:23:43.820 They sold their first one, I think, from their own page. 01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:47.440 So they might do that again, unless he's got a label now. 01:23:48.340 --> 01:23:48.760 Yeah, I don't know. 01:23:48.860 --> 01:24:18.820 We'll see. Where did you see the announcement? Do you remember? It might have been a review in the magazine. Decibel. Decibel talked about it. Yeah. Probably Decibel because Decibel's the best magazine out there, really. Plug, plug. All right. So next up, just on our last episode, Perihelion Ship have now released To Paint a Bird of Fire, their second album. So get thee to 01:24:23.420 --> 01:24:47.680 I was wondering. They were about 120 euros shy last I looked. There's still a couple days left. I thought it was pretty positive. Good for them. Congratulations. I know they listen to every podcast. I will say for the record, I really like this album. I thought this was their best one yet. I bet this album is on a few lists too. 01:24:49.460 --> 01:24:53.140 I would say on this podcast I think it's one we all agree on as being quite good 01:24:58.200 --> 01:25:00.520 and I'm expecting jerking the penis to fall 01:25:03.440 --> 01:25:04.980 Jay is my bitch 01:25:09.820 --> 01:25:13.540 to be fair doesn't every guest say that eventually 01:25:13.830 --> 01:25:15.659 you know I don't know why that happens 01:25:15.660 --> 01:25:43.820 You know, Jay, the way I'm looking at it is, so Perihelamship's your band, at some point we'll all have our own band that says that about one of us, right? Well, you know, Joel's up there right now going, George is my bitch. George is my bitch. All right. So then after that, an album that hasn't really been making a lot of noise, but is kind of a big deal to me, the new Sam I L album, Hegemony, their 11th album. 01:25:45.000 --> 01:26:11.820 How is that possible? You would think that they would be getting a little more... I mean, they've got a couple videos out, but I almost missed it. I'm not surprised. No one cares about Synthwave anymore? They're kind of like Paradise Lost, George, really, where they kind of fell off a bunch of people's radars for a while. Yeah, because they were doing weird electronic stuff. That's why Will made the Synthwave joke. They still are. No, not this. This is like black metal, man. This is good stuff. 01:26:13.940 --> 01:26:42.420 a lot of synthesizers. I don't remember. Did you listen to the new song? Yeah, I did. And there's a whole lot of synthesizers. I didn't pick up on that. It sounds like Marilyn Manson to me with more synthesizers. Shut the fuck up. Wow. You're so rude to me, John. I'm very sorry. I just wish you would stop. Progressive tonight. All right. So anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing the rest of that album in a couple of days. 01:26:43.940 --> 01:27:13.680 Another one that's coming out is the fifth album by a band called Sark. S-A-R-K-E. And I will be damned if I can pronounce this album. It's V-I-I-G-E. Oh, that's the last line. U-R-H. It's like V-U-R. And this is a project that is fronted by Nocturno Culto of Dark Throne. It's their fifth album. 01:27:13.940 --> 01:27:43.420 I've picked up pretty much, I think I have all of these albums, and I've even pre-ordered this one. I never pre-order, okay? But I pre-ordered this one. Granted, it was by mistake. I thought it came out last week. I bought it, and I was like all ready, and I'm like, what? Oh, fuck. So I have to wait until Friday to get it. But yeah, I mean, they had me at Nocturnal Culto, but it's awesome. It's good stuff. Even if you're not a Dark Funeral, Dark Throne fan, 01:27:43.920 --> 01:28:12.420 It's not like Dark Throne at all. I have a couple of their records. I'll buy this one. I like him just as a guy, too. He's kind of an interesting teacher. He's kind of self... What's the word I'm looking for when you make fun of yourself? Deprecating. Self-deprecating, yeah. He's pretty funny on Facebook sometimes. Next up, we have the album that everybody has inexplicably been losing their mind over, Spectral Voice, 01:28:13.220 --> 01:28:43.180 Eroded Corridors of Unbeing. It's their first album, and it features three members of Blood Incantation, which I can understand why that would be exciting, because Blood Incantation is pretty cool. I didn't lose my shit, because I don't know if I've listened to it yet. I don't remember. I know Will's got it. Yeah, I have it, and I am slowly going through it. Slowly. I like it, though. I like it. I want to like it. I really do. How did you get it, Will? How did you get it? I don't understand. It's for sale on 01:28:43.200 --> 01:29:12.620 Bandcamp. Bandcamp, okay. It's not like iTunes. I bought an album. Yeah. Well, no. No, on iTunes, it's like you can't buy it. Yeah, I think it is, too. It is, but it's like pre-order. You can't buy it yet. Oh. Well, I think they might have released it early because, yeah, I don't think it officially releases until Friday, but it has been released because I bought it on Bandcamp as well. Okay, so that was a non-opinion opinion. I didn't really, you just don't have an opinion at will, are you? No, no, I like it. It's just, the problem is between, 01:29:13.200 --> 01:29:43.180 Some stuff I bought on Bandcamp, some stuff I bought on iTunes, and The Box, which is where we get all the promos and stuff. Trying to listen to everything and give some equal time to different things. It's impossible. Yeah, so there's some things that I can easily just blow off, but Special Voice is something that I've been very much looking forward to. Because it's Death Doom, it's the guys from Blood Incantation, so I've been eagerly awaiting this. Does it have anything in common with... 01:29:43.220 --> 01:30:11.840 Not terribly. Blood incantation in the audio. I mean, it's definitely a different band. This is way, this is more funeral doom. Okay. You know, I think I have listened to that. It's very, very atmospheric. Yeah. I say that because to me, it sounds like somebody left the back door of the studio open on a windy day and they stuck a microphone in the doorway. Because the whole thing just sounds like there's just wind blowing. 01:30:12.360 --> 01:30:42.060 There's so much atmosphere that I'm like, I want to hear the music, but I can't hear the music. So that's my really only complaint. I'm not dissing the album. I mean, there's some cool stuff there, but I am a little perturbed by the production. It's probably all on purpose. Oh, I'm sure it is. And that just tweaks me even more. They're sitting here saying George is going to be pissed when he hears this. 01:30:43.860 --> 01:30:44.300 Fuckers. 01:30:45.470 --> 01:30:45.800 But yeah. 01:30:46.600 --> 01:30:47.080 So I don't know. 01:30:47.800 --> 01:30:49.580 I'm still on the fence about it. 01:30:49.580 --> 01:30:51.820 I don't know if I can get over the production or not. 01:30:53.240 --> 01:30:53.960 You'll live. 01:30:54.100 --> 01:30:54.560 I'll live. 01:30:57.020 --> 01:30:59.080 Spirit Adrift is the next new album. 01:30:59.500 --> 01:31:01.600 Their second album, Curse of Conception. 01:31:02.480 --> 01:31:03.480 It's a Doom record. 01:31:05.480 --> 01:31:09.440 I think that he sort of filled out the band for this album. 01:31:09.980 --> 01:31:39.740 Because before it was just sort of a one-man project. And of course, earlier this year, they did a split with our boys in Chemist. By the way, that split is awesome. I listen to it probably every day. It's awesome. It's two songs. One by Chemist. It's good. If you've ever seen Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? It's the same song. I realize these are both old blues standards. 01:31:39.980 --> 01:31:41.460 Full Kim kind of songs. 01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:46.680 But when I heard that, I was like, oh, man, I really hope they do something like this on the new Chemist album. 01:31:47.500 --> 01:31:51.320 I really hope they do something like this on the new Chemist album. 01:31:51.960 --> 01:31:52.320 Just saying. 01:31:52.540 --> 01:31:53.080 Hey, Dan. 01:31:53.220 --> 01:31:53.740 Hey, Dan. 01:31:54.300 --> 01:31:54.700 Exactly. 01:31:55.600 --> 01:31:56.000 Ben. 01:31:56.540 --> 01:31:58.120 George really hopes he'll do something. 01:31:58.440 --> 01:31:59.880 Yeah, no, it was just freaking awesome. 01:32:00.260 --> 01:32:06.640 And not that what you were doing before was not also awesome, but it really excited me. 01:32:06.900 --> 01:32:08.700 And as does the new Spirit Adrift. 01:32:09.040 --> 01:32:38.480 So yes, Spirit Adrift, check it out. It's on Bandcamp. And our final new release is the new Spotlights album, Seismic. I have not picked this up yet. I've heard some of the songs, but I know John has picked it up. Yeah, I have listened to it and I like it. The only way to describe the band is they are like doom plus shoegaze, I guess is the best way, but very doomy sound. With female vocals? I think it's husband and wife vocals. 01:32:38.560 --> 01:33:08.320 But yeah, it's hard to tell who's singing which. I think they sang together. But this album, I thought, had a little more pace than the last album. So I kind of like that about it. I believe they are on tour with the Melvins right now, if I'm not mistaken. And they're playing in front of some bigger crowds and getting a lot of notoriety, which is kind of cool. I like it. If you like Shoegaze, but you like it very doomy, then you might dig this. Yeah, I checked it out real quickly. And I... It's different. Yeah, no, I kind of dug it. 01:33:08.360 --> 01:33:12.060 I'll definitely check it out again. Yeah, I like what I've heard so far. I just 01:33:13.140 --> 01:33:13.840 have not 01:33:14.860 --> 01:33:16.300 pulled the trigger on the $10 01:33:16.520 --> 01:33:17.060 digital purchase. 01:33:18.260 --> 01:33:20.060 And it's not a super long album. It's like 01:33:20.160 --> 01:33:22.220 80 minutes, but with the first album being 01:33:22.340 --> 01:33:24.160 like, what, 38 or 39 minutes, I was like, 01:33:24.280 --> 01:33:25.660 oh, it's going to be close to 60. 01:33:26.440 --> 01:33:28.400 It's still good, but there's something about 01:33:28.580 --> 01:33:29.980 this type of music being 01:33:30.360 --> 01:33:32.340 a little shorter. I think the attention 01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:33.680 span is better for it. 01:33:34.420 --> 01:33:35.780 But with that said, I still like the album. 01:33:37.040 --> 01:33:37.780 Excellent. It's cool. 01:33:38.000 --> 01:34:07.820 So next up, we need a new segment piece for this one, Jay. We do. Yeah, yeah. This one's good. Wait, wait. So before we go to the next segment, which is the Skullcrushers, Will vs. Slayer, two things need to happen. One, John and I need to tell you about the beer, the delicious beer that we just drank that John brought back from the Pittsburgh area. John, would you like to talk about it? Yes, we always talk about Adam's book, The Birdal Truth. 01:34:08.020 --> 01:34:37.480 Guide to Extreme Beers. I was in Pittsburgh recently with Jen to see Bob Seger, and I made her go with me and my friend Lisa to full pint the brew pub, not the brew, but the brew pub, which is over in Lawrenceville. Will might know what I'm talking about when I say that, which is very cool, actually. And I picked up some Night of the Living Stout, which is on page 171 of the Bible. 01:34:39.020 --> 01:35:07.260 The Brutal Truth Guide to Extreme Beers. And we drank some tonight. And it was excellent. I mean, there's not much more I can say. It was beer. We drank it and enjoyed it. It was beer. Well, there's two excellent things to say about this beer. One, just, what, four days ago, it just won a medal at the Great American Beer Fest for Stout? Yes. Oh, right. So it's a pretty big fucking deal. Yeah, that's huge. 01:35:08.140 --> 01:35:36.080 thing is that in the book, the great Adam Tempadelin always has music recommendations to listen to while you're drinking it. And he chose Rigor Mortis Reanimator, which is one of my favorite bands, favorite albums, favorite songs. And the beauty of that is when we interviewed him at Decibel Fest last year, he's like, well, you know, it was sort of tongue in cheek when I put the music together. It was just, you know, I thought it would be kind of cool. 01:35:36.340 --> 01:36:05.960 But some of them he just nailed perfect, I thought. So the second thing we need to take care of is before you guys pummel me with questions about Slayer, I need another beer. So Skull Crusher, this time is Will versus Slayer. And yeah. Yes. So we're gonna start with John. I'm gonna totally softball you, Will. 01:36:06.140 --> 01:36:35.000 So you have to get these. Spell Slayer. S-A-T-E-L. Damn it. Okay, Will. So Slayer happened to be a part of the South Park episode series. Can you tell me? I hate hippies. Okay, let's start again. Can you tell me the name of the episode, the song they played, the reason why? They all kind of go together. 01:36:35.100 --> 01:37:04.300 I think the episode was Die, Hippie, Die. Bang. Song was Rated Blood. Double bang. So the reason why is in this episode, Cartman hates hippies. There's drum circles that infest South Park. They come to a big giant, like basically a giant fish Woodstock concert. And he takes this like mind drilling machine, 01:37:05.080 --> 01:37:35.060 through the crowd gets up on stage whips out a cd and starts playing rain and blood to get rid of the dirty infestate the infestation of the dirty hippies wow that was a little bar inflection there it was it was it was hippie jam fest 2005 in south park and fish was playing there and it was the same song they played the whole episode and he yes played rain and blood to chase all the dirty hippies out of south park yep all right you're 01:37:35.140 --> 01:38:04.200 You'll want to look up a video on YouTube called What Fish Sounds Like to People Who Don't Like Fish. It's hilarious, dude. You know what's great? At Atlas, they literally used to have Fish Fridays. Atlas went from a total hippie jam band dominated brewery because of the previous head brewer and is now a full-blown heavy metal brewery. Is Fish Fridays better going down to get the smoked salmon down the street? No. 01:38:05.100 --> 01:38:07.140 But I lost a little confidence 01:38:07.280 --> 01:38:08.580 because they played Leprous the other day 01:38:08.660 --> 01:38:09.500 and put it on the fermenter. 01:38:10.300 --> 01:38:10.620 Yeah. 01:38:10.840 --> 01:38:11.380 Tell you what, man. 01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:12.580 I sent it to John. 01:38:13.440 --> 01:38:15.180 That's better than fish. 01:38:15.480 --> 01:38:15.880 That's true. 01:38:16.540 --> 01:38:17.500 Was that all you had, John? 01:38:17.940 --> 01:38:18.960 Well, I have one more question. 01:38:19.260 --> 01:38:20.820 And this actually means something to me 01:38:20.880 --> 01:38:21.780 because I find this very funny. 01:38:22.040 --> 01:38:22.980 How tall is Kerry King? 01:38:24.340 --> 01:38:24.640 Oh. 01:38:25.080 --> 01:38:25.900 I'll tell you why I said it. 01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:55.520 Because all the smallest dudes in bands are the biggest egos in every band. I'd say 5'9". Oh, man. Is he in Kiss? Is he wearing platforms? Wow, he's shorter than that. His supposed playing height is 5'6", but I'm going to say he's shorter than that. Wow. I know he's short. Dude, that's like Dio short. Yeah. My kids are obsessed with Dio because I say, oh, he's short like a leprechaun. 01:38:56.000 --> 01:39:24.580 He's a leprechaun! And you're like, yes! I think you missed the point there, sweetheart, but sure, he's a leprechaun. He has lots of rainbows everywhere. Alright, well done, Bill. Well done. Okay, mine aren't too hard, but we'll see. So the first one, you may not have seen this interview, but you can probably piece together the answer, or maybe you'll know the answer. And it's funny, because you mentioned Turbo a little while ago. 01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:55.820 to one of Slayer's records as Slayer's Turbo. Do you know which one it is? And so if you don't know the interview, that's cool. You still should be able to. There's a standout record that's like, yeah, we might have got off track there a little bit. I mean, I'm going to have to say Diablos and Musica. There you go. You got it. All right. So you didn't. OK, cool. Nice job, sir. Now, this one, I think, is not going to seem that hard, but I think we'll see because there's a bonus portion to it. But we'll see. What was Dave's last album, not including? 01:39:56.060 --> 01:40:25.120 Live Albums. What was Dave Lombardo's last album the first time around? The first time around? Yeah. When he first left the band? Rain in Blood. Oh, gosh. I thought you'd get that one. No. He left the band after Rain in Blood, and then Tony Scaglione came in on drums for the tour, I think, and then Dave came back in 1987 because his wife convinced him to go back. 01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:55.060 No, no, no, no. Well, the question was, what was the last record? But okay, I guess that you got me into technicality there. Well, the last record, he was on Rain and Blood. I mean, he was still on, he was still on, like, South of Heaven. This is good. I feel like you're kind of besting me. Seasons of the Abyss. Well, he was still, well, yeah, but he was still on South of Heaven, Seasons of the Abyss, and then he left more permanently because he didn't want to tour because he wanted to be there for his kid. So he was not on. 01:40:55.340 --> 01:41:25.040 You sort of overanswered it in a good way, except that what I was looking for was Seasons and the Abyss. So it wasn't about when did he leave. It was what was the last record before. But you know what? I think you got that one on a technicality. Well, yeah, he left and then came back. And then left again. No, I get what you're saying now. Yeah, but I did say left the first time. So I guess you got me there. Now, that's what was the first record they recorded when he came back? That's the bonus. First record when he came back was... 01:41:25.060 --> 01:41:55.040 I thought this one might be hard because there's really there's two they did two don't it was I see Christ illusion well done sir so before we go any further with George I think that quote I sent you the other day about Slayer fans is playing out quite nicely right now yeah we forgot to mention that sorry we'll do it afterwards all right I think it's playing out quite nicely all right 01:41:55.080 --> 01:42:25.020 So is it my turn? Yes, sir. Let's fly. All right. I got a bunch of them for you, dude. Will is the only one who hasn't missed a question yet, by the way. Will is nailing it. Let's see if I can change that. No, I missed how tall Carrot King was. Yeah, by two inches. But who gives a shit? It was just a big fucking question. That would have been the right answer. All right. It doesn't matter what answer you gave. It was the right answer. When was God Hates Us All released? Oh, that's too easy. Oh, September 11, 2011. 01:42:25.100 --> 01:42:53.840 Yes. Why else would I ask that? Ironic. Yes. I thought that was pretty easy. Here's an even easier one. What kind of animal does Kerry King breed? He, for a while, he did breed show dogs. He trained show dogs and snakes. Snakes is the answer I was looking for. All right. Here's, I believe this is your own question back at you. What was Slayer's first gold album? Ooh. 01:42:55.620 --> 01:43:24.960 I like that question. That's actually kind of a hard one. Yes, it is. And I don't think the amateur is obvious. It's not Master of Puppets. Actually, while you're thinking there, Will, do you know where Kerry King lives? In Texas. No, no, no. Tom O'Reilly lives in Texas. He lives in California. He lives in Phoenix. He's gay. But he does live in Phoenix. 01:43:25.100 --> 01:43:25.420 the snake. 01:43:28.760 --> 01:43:29.400 Job Rika! 01:43:33.020 --> 01:43:34.200 All right, back to it. 01:43:36.460 --> 01:43:37.780 I know, okay, so let's... 01:43:38.260 --> 01:43:40.380 No, no, no, no, let me answer it. 01:43:41.480 --> 01:43:44.500 I won't, but it seems to me like here's just my guess, and I'm not going to say a title. 01:43:44.620 --> 01:43:48.000 I'm just saying this feels like there's one obvious one, and I feel like it's probably not that one. 01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:50.980 No, I think it's South of Heaven is the actual first one to go gold. 01:43:51.740 --> 01:43:52.180 Rain in Blood. 01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:54.560 Oh, it is Rain in Blood. 01:43:54.560 --> 01:44:24.540 I thought it is raining in blood. See, you did the exact same thing I did. You went with the album after the one that was actually it. Well, no, that's what I thought. I thought it's got to be a trick question. Well, when you said it was not obvious, I'm like, well, it must not be raining in blood. I didn't know what it was. Yeah, I didn't say it wasn't obvious. To me, it was obvious. I don't know the answer. We all just learned something. Yeah. All right. Did they have gold records after that? Yeah. A lot of them. Yeah. Okay. I have two more. What does 01:44:24.580 --> 01:44:53.680 Slayer supposedly stand for? The acronym for the name. I've never heard of this ever. I didn't either. Actually, I had. Where the hell did you find this? Is it Knights in Satan's Service? Yes, exactly. We are sexual people. There's actually two locations where this is written. Most recently, it was in the liner notes of Divine Intervention. 01:44:54.580 --> 01:45:24.540 But it was originally inscribed on the little outer rim of the, rather the inner rim of the vinyl of Show No Mercy. I've definitely never heard this ever. So what is it? It is Satan Laughs As You Eternally Rot. Oh, yeah, because that's a lyric of Satan laughs as you eternally rot. There you go. From... 01:45:24.560 --> 01:45:54.040 South of Heaven song. I'm pretty sure. Anyway. Whether that's official or not, it is on their shed. I mean, if you look up Show No Mercy vinyl picture, you can see it's scratched in the air. That's a lyric from something off South of Heaven, I think. I never heard this. I never heard this. I remember hearing it before, but it's been forever. Everyone got skull crushed on this one. Yeah. All right. 01:45:54.140 --> 01:46:21.920 Last one. And originally I made this too hard or too easy. So I'm making it a little harder for you. Slayer has written about a number of serial killers. Name three. And if you can, the related songs. Jeffrey Dahmer. So what was it? So. That's why you have to do three. Okay. Jeffrey Dahmer. And the song? 01:46:24.360 --> 01:46:25.760 is 312. 01:46:26.260 --> 01:46:27.100 213, close enough. 01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:32.320 Yeah, 213, which is his hotel room or apartment number. 01:46:32.820 --> 01:46:32.980 Yeah. 01:46:35.400 --> 01:46:36.620 Ed Gein, Deadskin Mask. 01:46:40.220 --> 01:46:41.100 There's five altogether. 01:46:42.660 --> 01:46:45.600 Does Joseph Mengele and Angel Death? 01:46:47.220 --> 01:46:49.820 It should, but it's not one of these answers. 01:46:52.580 --> 01:47:22.520 Let me think about this for a little bit. The last three are a little more obscure. In fact, one of them I've never even heard of. The song I know, but not the killer. I mean, I know there's one on World Painted Blood. The song Beauty or Beautiful. Yes, you're on the right track there. Yeah. I don't know the serial killer. 01:47:22.560 --> 01:47:50.260 I know that song's about a serial killer. I just don't. Beautiful dolls. Beautiful. Beauty through order is the song. Yeah. Beauty through order. And I'll give you a hint on the killer. There's another band that wrote a song about her. That's another hint. A classic song from an English band of the 70s and 80s. Oh, that's easy. 01:47:52.580 --> 01:48:22.540 Is it a countess? Lizzie Borden. Countess Bathory. Elizabeth Bathory, yeah. Okay, so there's two more. Do you give up on those? No, I'm not giving up yet. This is a big catalog to go through in your own mind. Is that the same beer, George? No, I've ever filled it. I think 01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:51.740 If it'll help you well, and I don't know the answer to these, but I think the first one is the one on... Like, I don't think it's... I'm just... What would be the first one, George? Just tell him. I think that's a fair thing so he doesn't have to go through the whole catalog, because I don't think there's anything on the middle of this stuff. If you give me one second, I'll give you the albums. Well, one of them is from Undisputed Attitude. It's the only... That's kind of hard. 01:48:51.760 --> 01:49:21.700 Come on, man. It's the only original song on that album. That's going to be a hard one. I don't know. Okay, that one would be... I don't know. That one would be the Zodiac Killer, and the song is called Gemini. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yep. Wait, you don't think he's a well-known serial killer? No, it's the next one. There's one more. Oh, I was going to say... And that one is from World Painted Blood as well. 01:49:23.660 --> 01:49:50.060 Whirlpainted Blood, Pretty Dolls, or Playing With Dolls. No. No? Hold on, hold on. Yeah, I'm giving up. All right, the song is called Psychopathy Red. Oh, the guy, the Russian cannibal guy. Oh, Chikatilo? Psychopathy Red. Chikatilo? Yeah, and Derry Chikatilo. 01:49:52.260 --> 01:50:21.300 Russian Cannibal, right? I have no idea who he is. I just wrote it down. Oh, you know, Chicatello is definitely one of the craziest serial killers worldwide. Yeah, that's... Oh, man. That's an obvious one. His numbers are massive. You had me at Russian Cannibal. Is When the Stillness Comes not about a serial killer? I feel like that must be. Because of the way the imagery in that song comes off, I'm just... I don't know. But maybe it's not a specific one. I don't know. Yeah, you're right. That may not be. 01:50:22.119 --> 01:50:48.060 So here's a question for you. Which member is obsessed with serial killers? Tom. Tom, yeah. Which one is obsessed with German Nazis? That would be Jeff. Why? Because his father was at Normandy Beach. But it also collected that stuff and it got Jeff into it. 01:50:51.360 --> 01:51:21.320 The Allies. Which band member wears a lot of Hot Topic chains all over his body? I got one that nobody will get. Is he 5'6"? They used to wear eye makeup. They had this eye Alice Cooper makeup. Do you know why they stopped wearing it? Because people wanted to beat them up? Eye infection. That's actually... 01:51:21.580 --> 01:51:50.760 Those were both pretty good answers. Now, when they came to San Francisco, where the thrash scene was taking off, they played with it once here, and all the bands and people told them, you can't do that here, and they stopped doing it. That was the last time they did it. It was an L.A. thing. Yeah, it was an L.A. thing, and San Francisco was like, we're about tennis shoes and jeans, bro. Don't get too crazy up here. Well, and no t-shirts. Yeah, yeah. Though they did go, they stuck with the studs and the stuff for a while, but... Yeah. Cool. I did okay. You did great. 01:51:51.340 --> 01:52:21.320 That was the best round so far. I think you only missed like two officially. Yeah. Well done, sir. And both of those were, yeah, well done, sir. Well done. Any more? Come on, I'm on a roll. Well, so now we have to pick the next time and by default, that's going to have to be John. And by default, it's going to be... Cannibal Corpse. Yeah. I'm thinking Opeth, but I don't know. It's John's choice. Well, I will do, I'll go on the record and see I'm not 01:52:21.360 --> 01:52:50.600 the biggest Opeth fan in the world. Opeth sucks. Pick everything you want. You guys can do Opeth, and I guarantee I'll probably get every single question wrong, but go for it. No, pick something you want to do. Pick something that you do feel confident about. Something you think you excel in. My choices are Opeth or Cannibal Corpse. I'll go with Opeth. Your choices, whatever is the whole world, whatever makes you happy. You can do Rush. 01:52:51.360 --> 01:53:21.320 Like Rush. I mean, you must know a lot about Rush. Huh? We'll do Opeth. Leprous is more metal than Clutch, trust me. That's cool. You know, I think I can come up with some hard Opeth questions that I know you can answer. So that I think you can answer. Because actually, I'm one of the old school fans like you, so I can ask you some weird stuff from the past. It's going to be awesome when I get every single one of them wrong, and I can say, well, I'm not the number one Opeth fan in the world. You're not. You're not. 01:53:21.360 --> 01:53:30.160 a bunch of them. All right, cool. Let's do it. All right, John versus Opeth. All right. That seems like it's been a long time coming, but we're getting ready to do our top five now. 01:53:54.360 --> 01:53:55.080 Oh, yeah. 01:53:55.480 --> 01:53:55.800 Oh, yeah. 01:53:55.890 --> 01:53:56.500 Do we have a top five? 01:53:56.520 --> 01:53:56.720 Yeah. 01:53:57.010 --> 01:53:59.700 It's like, whew, after all that, we've got to do a top five, too. 01:53:59.960 --> 01:54:00.220 All right. 01:54:00.310 --> 01:54:06.640 Well, to keep it simple this time, because we scheduled this episode in haste, I decided 01:54:06.730 --> 01:54:13.680 we were going to go back to the old time machine again and spin for a year and do our 01:54:13.710 --> 01:54:15.160 top five albums from that year. 01:54:15.700 --> 01:54:45.660 And I came up with 1996, which I thought was going to be kind of easy because it's the 90s and everything sucked in the 90s mostly. But I was wrong. It was just a lot of good stuff in 1996. I would say this was easy because it was like a pick between like five good ones and a couple honorable choices and a whole lot of crap. I've got 11 honorable mentions. So apparently Jay and Will were just listening to crap in 1996 because I had a lot of 01:54:47.900 --> 01:55:14.860 Well, a couple of mine are borderline. I got to be honest with you. You guys are going to be like, I don't know, dude. But they are what I would consider metal albums. Yeah, initially, I mean, I have a couple. I'll do some honorable mentions and there's borderline stuff. My honorable mentions could be on a lot of lists. Oh, yeah. I'm sure. I'm curious to hear what you guys have. I'm sure some of mine are. Yeah. All right. So, number five. John. Okay. 01:55:15.720 --> 01:55:45.520 Number 5 is really just 5 through. I think I have 10 total. I only have 5 honorable mentions. So it could have been any one of these 6 albums. This is the one that just stuck the most. That was Therian's Thelia. Thelak. Yes. The first full symphonic operatic singing metal album they put out. That is in fact one of my honorable mentions. And that pained me to put that there because in 1996 I freaking loved that album. Yeah. 01:55:45.680 --> 01:56:14.940 It was just, it was different. It was creative, but it was still very heavy, very good. Trust me, George, when you hear my honorable mentions, any one of those could have been my number five, easily. You know, before I forget again, I wanted to mention, you know, when I was doing my list, seeing all these albums, for some reason, it really transported me back to that year. Because I remember, I mean, I bought all of these albums, like this year that they came out. 01:56:14.980 --> 01:56:44.060 And I'm like, oh, I remember going into Tower Records and buying this one. And oh, yeah, that one, too. And it's just, I don't know. I mean, it was like the year before I moved here from Michigan. And so it's just I have a lot of memories wrapped up in all of these albums. It's you have did you all is everything on your list in physical form on a CD that you purchased? Let me see. For me, yes, definitely. Yes. Yes, definitely. 01:56:44.200 --> 01:57:12.140 And quite a few of them on vinyl as well. Same here. Yeah, same here. Okay. All right. My number five. And this is not a strong one. Not at all. But it was not a good year for the type of metal that I personally... Is this Clutch's first album? Sorry. My fault. My bad. My bad. 01:57:14.180 --> 01:57:43.360 Sacred Reich, Heal. Oh, okay. I didn't even know about that one. All right. Definitely not Sacred Reich's best album. I mean, pale to comparison to Surf Nicaragua, Ignorance. Basically, it's, in my opinion, their least good, best, whatever album. But in 1996, it was pretty good. Yeah, there you go. You had to take what you could take. All right. Yeah. Jay. 01:57:44.200 --> 01:58:14.120 Mine is, I'm not as big of a fan of these guys as maybe, well actually no, maybe we're kind of even here on the podcast these days, but in any case, I did think this was quite a good record and I enjoyed it very much that year and it was Iced Earth's Dark Saga. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's cool. Yeah. That should have been honorable too. Oh well. Oopsie. All right. No, I saw that and I was like, oh, I got to put that down. And in fact, I saw it twice. 01:58:14.180 --> 01:58:43.260 and said, I gotta put that down. And ultimately forgot to put it down. But it is a great album. My number five, which nobody else will have, My Dying Bride Like Gods of the Sun. There it is. Yep. With all due respect. That's my favorite My Dying Bride album. So, all right, back to John. I'm sorry, what'd you say? What are you talking about? 01:58:46.680 --> 01:59:14.160 Okay, John, number four. So this is an album. I don't know why I don't listen to it enough, and I really should, because I think it's a great album. And maybe it's one of the earliest, not first, but one of the earlier true progressive death metal albums. George is probably thinking he knows this, but it's Edge of Sanity Crimson. It's just 40 minutes of just... 01:59:15.400 --> 01:59:42.940 Crushing vocals and great musicianship. And the production's great. I love that album. But I don't listen to it enough. I think I really need to listen to it more. I feel the same way. And it's not because it's 40 minutes. I love it. Good stuff. Excellent. Will. My number four. Cryptopsy. None So Vile. Yes. I was just listening to that yesterday. Really? Yes, I was. 01:59:44.180 --> 01:59:45.400 working on his list. Oh. 01:59:46.660 --> 01:59:49.020 No, it had nothing to do with the list, but I'll get to that later. 01:59:51.340 --> 01:59:51.740 Oh. 01:59:52.820 --> 01:59:54.100 Well, Will might have a... 01:59:54.140 --> 01:59:55.620 All I want is your approval. 01:59:56.220 --> 01:59:56.320 Yeah. 01:59:56.500 --> 01:59:57.340 Maybe an honorable mention. 01:59:57.600 --> 01:59:58.440 And a retry. 01:59:58.480 --> 02:00:00.140 It is an honorable mention, yes. 02:00:01.180 --> 02:00:02.740 Cryptopsy, none so vital is an honorable mention. 02:00:03.500 --> 02:00:05.420 So now we already know all your honorable mentions. 02:00:05.520 --> 02:00:07.540 I got nine more, so don't worry about it. 02:00:07.620 --> 02:00:08.460 Yeah, you got nine more. 02:00:08.680 --> 02:00:09.560 Thanks for running. 02:00:09.720 --> 02:00:10.780 Okay, Jay. 02:00:12.280 --> 02:00:12.940 Okay, Jay. 02:00:13.300 --> 02:00:42.260 Type O-Negative, October Rust. Waiting for somebody to put that on there. Yeah, they've done so many things I've liked. And that's part of what's on my list. And that's another one of my honorable mentions. I'm just going to keep it on. Now there's only eight more. This is good because we won't have to do it. Exactly. That's why I'm doing it now. All right. My number four, Rotting Christ, Triarchy of the Lost Lovers. 02:00:43.280 --> 02:01:09.960 I knew that would be on your list. We've talked about that often. Yes. Killer album. One of probably their best as far as I'm concerned. All right. Number three, John. All right. This would probably be in the Will Clutch realm, although I think these guys are heavier than Clutch. But I don't think it's that far off, though, because it is a stoner metal band, and it is stoner metal, not stoner rock. And I think it's their best period. 02:01:11.920 --> 02:01:40.300 And I'm not saying that. Actually, I mean this. Spiritual beggars, another way to shine. If you know who spiritual beggars are, I think they do stoner metal the way it should be done. They do. In fact, I remember when I was still working at my first brewery that you gave me a mixed tape. Aww. And it had spiritual beggars on it. It was actually just a thumb drive with a shitload of music. Spiritual beggars are on it, and I really like it. Their early stuff, I think, is what stoner metal should be, personally. 02:01:41.920 --> 02:01:48.260 who don't know who spiritual beggars are, then you might know some of the guys from Opeth and, I don't know, Arch Enemy and Carcass. 02:01:49.080 --> 02:01:51.760 Yeah. Only nothing like that. 02:01:52.800 --> 02:01:54.440 And that's all I have to say about that. 02:01:54.720 --> 02:01:55.700 There we go. 02:01:56.220 --> 02:01:56.320 Yeah. 02:01:57.100 --> 02:01:57.400 Willem. 02:01:57.740 --> 02:01:58.360 Been a while, Jay. 02:02:00.400 --> 02:02:05.580 I guess I got myself off that drug somehow. I don't know. It was really my go-to phrase there for a while. 02:02:06.520 --> 02:02:07.600 At least it's not smoking. 02:02:09.380 --> 02:02:39.200 But you've withdrawn from too. I was embarrassed. Yeah. All right. Well. My number, what, three? Mm-hmm. Monstrosity. Millennium. Ah. Old Corpse Grinder. Good old Georgie. Yep. All right. Right. So I guess he had two albums that year. You up the crickets? You up the crickets? It's Corpse Grinder's old. Yeah. 02:02:40.960 --> 02:03:06.400 Okay, Jay, number three. John will be proud, but this is not a gift to John. Opeth Morning Rice. That's a very good choice. Number three! Just want to say that's yet another one of my honorable mentions. See, when I hear that, I'm just happy to hear that Jay put it on his list. I'm not freaking out where it is on my list. Of course, yeah. You're just pleased to have heard the words. All right. Good man. My number three. 02:03:14.000 --> 02:03:39.360 You're saying that's better than Morning Rise? I'm saying that that album was very instrumental in my heavy metal evolution. Your thingy. All right. Good for you. Good for you, says John. Yeah, no, that album was one of my first early 02:03:39.400 --> 02:04:08.360 Black Metal type. I know there's people who go, it's not Black Metal. Yeah, well, it got me in the direction of Black Metal. That early stuff, though, yeah. And it's such a cool album. It really is. So, number two. This was the band, they started to make their change with this album, but I still think this album is outstanding. That's Amorphous Elegy. Oh, good choice. That's yet another one of my honorable mentions. Jesus Christ! This is awesome. 02:04:09.380 --> 02:04:39.300 You just cut off like 30 minutes of the podcast. Hey, listeners, you're welcome. Yeah. All right, well. This one may shock you at its position. Yes. I can't believe you're going to do this. Cannibal Corpse. Vile. Number two. Thank you. Are you kidding me? What? It's one spot down? One spot down. 02:04:39.400 --> 02:05:08.820 There is something else that I thoroughly enjoy. You're going to do it. I know you're going to do it. All right, I'll do it again. Man, I'm tired. Yeah, yeah. All right, I guess we are to Jay for number two now, yeah? All right, I tend to stick, not traditional, but most of what I try to name and talk about fits really obviously in the metal category, and I don't think this is necessarily not metal, 02:05:08.920 --> 02:05:38.600 But my last two records, my first two records, rather, definitely not bands. It is 1996, so we're not going to judge you, okay? It is tough. And there was some different things happening in those two years. Around that time in the 90s. Blimp Bizkit, wow. There was some cool heavy music coming out that wasn't necessarily Judas Priest or whatever. So my number two, but I think a lot of people will enjoy this record, Tool Enema came out that year. And that was a great record. I spelled this on that record a million times that year. Yeah. I still love it. 02:05:38.940 --> 02:06:06.920 I love that record. It was one of my vinyl Holy Grails and I found it not long ago and couldn't be happier to have it. Though I honestly haven't listened to it yet. What's your favorite song on that album? Third Eye, the last one. But I think the whole thing's good from start to finish. I like the big hits too, like Stink Fist and Hooker with the Peanis. But it really was a pretty monumental record. It was and is. Yeah. George? My number two. 02:06:08.940 --> 02:06:38.680 I have to field number two, but it's not. It's Cannibal Corpse Vile. What? But that was my number two. I put it in two, but you didn't put it on your list. I'm just more shocked it's actually on your list. Dude, that album was crushing for me that year. Dude, it's so good. So good. All right. That opening growl on Devoured by Furman by Corpse Griner, he said he failed like three times. Had to go in the bathroom. 02:06:38.740 --> 02:07:08.660 Look in the Mirror, it's his first album, Look in the Mirror, tell Buck Up Buttercup, and went out there and nailed it. Nice. Cool. There's some cool, by the way, in the Brian Slagle book, there's some good Cannibal Corpse information and stuff out. Leave it to your own discretion if you want to discover that, but it was cool how he talked about them in the book and how they came. Well, they have their own book out, Bible of Butchery, which... Oh, that's right. Yeah, you told me that. I need to look that up. I have it. It's somewhere on this shelf, somewhere. There's probably no stories you haven't heard then. Is that Yelp? 02:07:10.540 --> 02:07:38.260 Yeah, I have a master's degree in all kinds of other weird stuff. Does it open up to little Yeltsons? No, it's Boris Yeltsin, and then it's Gorda Batroth and Stacking Dolls, and then it's Gru Jeff, and then Brezhnev, and then this guy, forget his name. He's the dude down the street. Yeah. All right. By the way, that reminds me, Sergei told me a good joke. 02:07:38.720 --> 02:07:39.580 the other day. 02:07:40.600 --> 02:07:41.940 Is he Russian or Ukrainian? 02:07:42.440 --> 02:07:43.000 He's Ukrainian. 02:07:43.200 --> 02:07:43.540 Okay. 02:07:43.840 --> 02:07:46.020 You brought it to mind just because of that. 02:07:46.050 --> 02:07:52.580 And it was, this was his joke, was I have a Polish friend who's a sound engineer and I have a Czech one too. 02:07:52.810 --> 02:07:53.500 A Czech one too. 02:07:57.260 --> 02:07:57.840 That's awesome. 02:07:59.120 --> 02:07:59.900 That's kind of funny. 02:08:00.980 --> 02:08:02.680 Hey, Will, I just bought the Bible of Butcher. 02:08:02.780 --> 02:08:03.120 You're welcome. 02:08:03.400 --> 02:08:04.200 I just bought it too. 02:08:04.230 --> 02:08:05.620 Like literally just now? 02:08:06.200 --> 02:08:06.740 Me too. 02:08:06.820 --> 02:08:35.920 I literally just ordered it because I don't have it and I enjoyed this Lego thing so much I want to read that. It's interesting because you can tell that there's parts of there's there's chapters of the book that they write themselves and you can kind of tell they write them themselves. Are they in crayon or? Finger painted blood. All right we are. It's funny too George because when I was buying mine it said there are only three left in stock so there's probably only two maybe one. 02:08:36.800 --> 02:09:06.700 I better get on that when I get home. Take care of it, dude. Here it is. Wow. I'm looking forward to this. Nice. All right. We are to the number ones. All right. All right. You guys don't know this. You don't know anything. It was on my list. By far outweighs everything on my list. And only for one song alone. Jay, do you know what that song is? Can I look at it? 02:09:06.820 --> 02:09:34.580 because I will know if I look at it. Is this Rage Against the Machine? Hold on. Let me pull it up. I have it on my iTunes, but I've got to see what it is. Just for this one song alone, this album would be number one. I'd really like to take a chance at this. Black Rose Immortal. Okay, thank you, Will. Come on, even Will knew that. Yeah. Actually, I was just looking to see if that was the one that was on. That's the truth. A lot of people like to tell jokes about that song. So what was it? 02:09:38.880 --> 02:10:05.820 The Black Rose Immortal Alone just to make it number one. That's the big epic one. That's the song you can go to still to this day and people are screaming for it and they'll never hear it. They're like the maiden people who are shouting Alexander the Great. It's like, just shut up. That's me, man. I'd love to hear that song. I don't blame you. It's just it ain't never going to happen. Anyway, here you go. My number one. Opeth Morning Rise. Not unexpected. 02:10:08.500 --> 02:10:36.780 I don't feel nearly as bad about my numero uno because it was Jay's numero dos. Tool. Digital bug. I still absolutely love that album. I can't believe that beats Cannibal Corpse. You know what? It's pretty foundational on the record, man. That's a special record. That is by far Tool's best record. I think so, too. I agree. When I was in college and I had 02:10:38.420 --> 02:11:06.420 I did all the tabs and learned a lot of the Tool songs, Eulogy, Stink Fist and all that stuff, 46 and 2. And what was awesome about it is it taught me actually how to play chords. They play chords on a lot of those songs. None of them are really complicated. They just does some neat textures that work really well. Yeah, they are very bass and drum driven bands, so no doubt. Awesome, dude. That's a great choice. 02:11:06.800 --> 02:11:36.040 I may be the only one who has this. There's a far out chance that this is on George's list, but I can't believe it'd be at number one. It's probably in my honorables. It probably is. Please let it be in his honorables. It's still five short, yeah. And I'm not... If there is a questionable one in here for other people, it's this one. But I still think this was a masterpiece. I think I know what it is. And I don't necessarily like anything at all, almost, that comes after it. 02:11:36.120 --> 02:12:05.900 I think is an absolutely masterpiece of a record. To me, it tells the story of people like us who grew up listening to metal and were kind of looked down upon for it. That really is what that record's kind of about, is what it's like to kind of be seen as one of the freaky kids at your school and stuff. You know what's really funny, Jay? When that came out, I absolutely loved that album. I still love that album. 02:12:06.120 --> 02:12:36.100 And I'm not ashamed to admit it. But I felt if I put Tool and Marilyn Manson on the same list, that John would beat me up. No, I questioned it because I thought, well, everybody's going to think I'm not a metal guy on the show because usually we're made. It was 1996. That's the thing. It was 1996. But it was also that is that good of a record, though. I have no qualms about putting it on there. That is definitely one honorable mentions. And I will say that another Marilyn Manson 02:12:36.140 --> 02:13:05.180 I thought was really really good was Golden Age Grotesque. Oh, it was good. Yeah, it's good. He started to go downhill. I thought on the... No, he went... I thought he went downhill in between. That was a peak, and then it's just been crap ever since. Yeah, there's a... He's got a cool new video, though, you might check out. It's got him and Johnny Depp in it. I don't know what it's called, but you can see it on Blabbermouth. It's Satan, yeah. Satan. He was on the Howard Stern show the other week, and he talked about, like, his BFF is Johnny Depp. 02:13:05.880 --> 02:13:35.840 I think he's also just become kind of a tool he was kind of like a razor blade of a guy and a wit back in the day but he's now I think I think manson's just like an absent alcoholic drug taker now and I think he's kind of obnoxious whereas I used to didn't think so so that record though I could go off for hours about the content of that record and what he's talking about it and stuff it's great it's a good record yeah no I like it a lot Antichrist Superstar is on my honorable mentions but you know why because 02:13:35.880 --> 02:14:04.580 I wanted it to be a co-number one. I was like, if this can't be my number one, it can't be on my list. Because it has to be number one. I thought it was high in your estimation anyway. I thought you liked it. But I didn't put it on there just because it couldn't be number one. That's because my number one is sentenced down. Oh, that's right. I did see that. When I looked up 1996, I was like, I know what George's is. That album. 02:14:05.880 --> 02:14:34.240 It's still one of my all-time favorite albums of all time. So. Well. Wait, can we do our honorable mentions now? Seeing as you had. Sorry, I still haven't done mine. I just. I gotta. Yeah. I gotta tell you, I'm a little, I'm a little shocked because you guys, some of you, Jay and I guess Will are saying 1996 kind of eh. And I'm like looking at my honorable mentions thinking, really? Are you serious? Yep, we are serious. No, crazy. 02:15:05.860 --> 02:15:33.060 My Dying Bride, like Gods of the Sun, that's an amazing album. So, I'm just surprised. I don't know, what do you guys have on the rest of yours, like Pearl Jam and shit? I have one that's close. Some of these pains me to admit it, but I say again, it was 1996. Screaming Trees or something? Hey, what's wrong with Screaming Trees? Nothing. Dave, Matt, no. 02:15:35.860 --> 02:16:05.700 Seppaltura roots, but this is where Seppaltura completely fell off the meat because they became new metal. They jumped a shark there. Turned into corn. Yep. Corn. But in 1996, hey, I will omit this freely. Rage Against the Machine, Evil Empire. It was a good album. But I can't listen to them anymore. No, I can't. It's like nails on a chalkboard a lot of times to me. Definitely Marilyn Manson, Antichrist Superstar, 02:16:05.860 --> 02:16:35.460 I have no qualms of saying I love the album. Forbidden came out with Green that year and Overkill came out with The Killing Kind and I just like Overkill a lot. That's my honorable mention. I'll do mine pretty quick but also I was going to point out this is why it was kind of a rough year though. Like listening to some records that did come out also like Metallica Load came out. I'm surprised you didn't say Manowar George. 02:16:35.860 --> 02:16:37.740 It's on my honorable mentions 02:16:39.210 --> 02:16:39.300 Okay 02:16:40.319 --> 02:16:41.219 Carcass Swan Song 02:16:41.450 --> 02:16:43.160 Like Swan Song is not my favorite Carcass record 02:16:43.300 --> 02:16:44.099 Kingtime and Graveyard 02:16:44.320 --> 02:16:45.800 It's just a lot of bands that I kind of like 02:16:45.809 --> 02:16:47.420 We're kind of putting out their mid-range records 02:16:48.000 --> 02:16:49.700 Motorhead put out Overnight Sensation 02:16:50.380 --> 02:16:52.160 And Overnight Sensation is not like a Motorhead record 02:16:52.230 --> 02:16:53.340 I really don't care about 02:16:54.319 --> 02:16:55.800 So I guess I'm kind of doing my 02:16:57.059 --> 02:16:58.040 Shameful list here 02:16:58.700 --> 02:16:58.780 But 02:17:01.239 --> 02:17:01.760 You know what? 02:17:01.889 --> 02:17:02.580 Actually I'll leave it at that 02:17:02.620 --> 02:17:03.360 I don't need to be a list 02:17:04.099 --> 02:17:05.840 I'm happy with what I put 02:17:05.840 --> 02:17:35.820 I'm so glad to hear that. I honestly thought I was like, Antichrist Superstar was going to be a bit of a confession on my part and you guys would be like, you're a dork, dude. So that's kind of interesting. It was a great album. It really was. I listened to it again recently, I don't know, in the last month or two, and listened to every song intently. When it came out, I just listened to my favorite songs, Beautiful People and 02:17:40.638 --> 02:18:05.760 And then like reflecting God and stuff like that. And I really listened to some of the more strange songs that are on there that are very more like electronic. And and I was like, this was fucking genius. I was like, I get it now when it came out back in 96. I skipped over songs because I don't get this song. And now I'm like, wow, so much going on. 02:18:05.840 --> 02:18:35.780 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So good. There's so much going on. But a lot of people say it's his best record because it's really a Trent Reznor record. Yeah. Which is, no, I don't think it's true, but I mean, that's what people say. But if you listen to it too, it's a huge headphones record. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. A few more honorable mentions. Acid Bath, Pagan Terrorist Tactics, Killer. God damn it. That would have been on my list. Yeah. I didn't know it was in 1996. Yeah. God damn it. Yeah. That was originally my number five. I just like, it was the very first thing I did was wrote down Acid Bath as my number five. 02:18:36.219 --> 02:18:42.280 And it got that song that song uh grave flower yeah oh god that's a good girl 02:18:44.041 --> 02:18:57.580 anyway uh also amorphous elegy uh bathory blood on ice in flames jester race man of war louder than hell moon spells irreligious 02:18:59.150 --> 02:19:05.820 uh nuts i forgot about i forgot about that yes that's a good uh and everything else has been said uh cryptopsy 02:19:05.840 --> 02:19:35.800 Manny Manson, Opeth, Therian, and Typo Negative. Cool. We're all sort of on the same page. I still agree with Will. It wasn't a crazy good year. There were some great records that came out, but it just wasn't hard to choose from year for me. It was the 90s, man. The 90s were rough. I don't know. George and I seem to have a problem picking our top five. Yeah. Well, so that's the way we'd have to resort to any kind of MTV. It's almost a good year. It was just about 02:19:35.840 --> 02:19:50.700 When those good Bruce Dickinson solo records came out, were going to come out. A couple of the good Nevermore records are getting ready to come out. I mean, it's just almost getting back to where everything was like back on track. Yeah. All right. So that's what we were listening to in 1996. What are we listening to now? 02:20:14.419 --> 02:20:35.780 All right, I'll do mine fast, but I do have actually more this week than I normally do. So, still listening to Wolves in the Throne Room, Thrice Woven. I've been spinning the New Enslaved a lot. E is the album. Monolord Rust, With the Dead, Love From With the Dead, which Will and I have discussed this one. 02:20:35.820 --> 02:21:05.800 I like it more than the first one but I like it I think it's pretty cool I think I like it better than the first one yeah it's to me it sounds like old cathedral a little bit more modern uh force of equilibrium a little bit more don't you think yeah yeah so uh sorcerer the crying of the fire king I'm loving this album it's cool um we mentioned spotlights says uh seismic ready dreadnought awaken sacred waves uh I don't know if these guys are a metal band but they have some heavy parts uh 02:21:05.840 --> 02:21:35.780 a band called Zaius, and I believe the album's called Of Adoration. Kind of cool instrumental stuff. Yeah, I listened to some of that after you posted that. It's pretty good. It's pretty good, yeah. I don't know if I'd call it metal, but it's got some metal moments. And then an album that I didn't realize was out there, George, you said you knew about it for a while, but I've been listening to it a lot, is a band called Lore, and the album's called In Forgotten Sleep, which is kind of like this year's Wilderun a little bit. Yeah. Although heavier, heavier than Wilderun, I think. 02:21:35.840 --> 02:21:41.060 I think so it's cool awesome will 02:21:45.180 --> 02:22:02.721 I'm gonna run through this quick primitive man caustic digging that the new spectral voice the new spirited drift curse of the conception a band I'm super excited about that I personally found out for the first time Brazilian band 02:22:05.681 --> 02:22:32.240 And their album, Urn, U-R-N, and band Radio Moscow. Their album, New Beginnings, sounds a lot like old-school Graveyard Trouble. Really? I saw that, but I didn't listen to it because it sounded like it was going to be like a rock band. Well, I mean, it is. But I meant like AOR rock. No, check it out. Bandcamp? 02:22:33.860 --> 02:23:02.260 I think I got it on iTunes. Definitely check it out. If you like Graveyard, Old School Trouble. More in the Graveyard vein. Old Graveyard. Not the new Graveyard album. Listen to a little bit of the new Guar, which we got in the box, which I know has not been released yet. The King Goat Conduit album. Which is a reissue, apparently. With bonus tracks from last year. 02:23:06.781 --> 02:23:12.420 I got an old demo of the temple of the void which is good got an old lord is badass 02:23:12.950 --> 02:23:21.960 which is lord local band model lord rust and spin that a lot lately and been spinning a lot of the 02:23:22.030 --> 02:23:31.480 the cannibal corpse read it before black the song code of the slashers because somehow we don't get that one in the box 02:23:32.819 --> 02:24:00.820 I'm on. Fucking killin' me. I haven't listened to Bellwitch, The Perihelian Ship, With the Dead, Love of the Dead, and I kind of like the first one better, because John and I were talking about this. I think the first one was more Electric Wizard-y, and I just kind of liked it a little bit more. And that might have something to do with that. The first album had two members from Electric Wizard. This album has two members from Cathedral. Right. The new Belphegor. 02:24:02.021 --> 02:24:31.140 Taten Ritual, which means death ritual in German. That's an awesome album. Yeah, and then I'm really liking that one. And then apparently Space Slug came out with two albums this year. So there was one earlier in the year, which was Time Traveler Dilemma, and now they have one called Mountains of Remittance and Reminiscence. And they're both really good. Sawdice, I haven't listened to it yet. 02:24:32.739 --> 02:24:59.460 And that is what I'm listening to. Excellent. Nailed it. Jay. I am really digging that Exhumed record. And can I just say I love the cover too? It's like this folded 1970s or 80s movie poster. I hate to say it, but it's almost like a Synthwave cover. I love it. And it's just good. It's really well produced. I've always kind of liked that, but not been crazy about it. But I can't seem to stop listening to this one. 02:25:01.399 --> 02:25:30.940 I think it was Colt Nation turned me on to this black metal. It's really essentially an EP called Zigurat. Z-I-G-G-U-R-A-T. I'm enjoying that very much and really trying to decide if it's long enough to put on my year of end list. I like it enough to say that. I got the Primitive Man record like Will did. I'm enjoying that. And then I got some new vinyl, which I won't go through the whole list, but one of those was the new Alice Cooper, which I think George 02:25:30.960 --> 02:25:59.480 and I mutually like. And since I got that on vinyl, I've been spinning that again. And it's a two-disc LP that runs in 45-speed, George. Nice. There's no real reason to tell you that, but there you go. And then I did buy some other vinyls this week, but they were just old things I'm filling holes with. And on to you, George. All righty. So I have a relatively long list, but Will, before you queue up the dope smoker, 02:26:00.100 --> 02:26:29.220 Understand that my list is broken into two parts. There's a smaller part. George, not to cut you off, we're not queuing dope smoker anymore, we're queuing bellwedge now. Sorry. There's two parts, a smaller part and a larger part, and I think you're going to want to stick around for the larger part. So the first part of the list is the new album, I want to say Acephalix, A-C-E-P-H-A-L-I-X. Decreation is the album, it's their third album. 02:26:30.100 --> 02:27:00.000 They're from J-town out there in San Fran. In the city. Goddamn. What was their name again? Acephalics is my guess approximation of how they... A-C-E-P-H-A-L-I-S. Acephalic? Exactly. I don't know. Next up is the band Seller Darling, which John will recognize from next year's Prog Power. The album is called This Is The Sound, and it's basically three people from Aluvierde. 02:27:00.100 --> 02:27:02.980 that are no longer in the band, and they started another band. 02:27:04.380 --> 02:27:04.880 Do you like it? 02:27:05.060 --> 02:27:05.660 Yeah, it's kind of cool. 02:27:05.800 --> 02:27:12.020 I mean, it's female-fronted, you know, is what it is, but for what it is, I like it. 02:27:12.020 --> 02:27:12.080 Yeah. 02:27:13.300 --> 02:27:13.760 Okay, cool. 02:27:14.500 --> 02:27:17.860 Next up is the band Droid and Terrestrial Mutations. 02:27:18.979 --> 02:27:20.460 This is not Droid Attacks. 02:27:20.600 --> 02:27:23.000 Don't want to get confused with the band that we've mentioned before. 02:27:23.200 --> 02:27:23.840 It's just Droid. 02:27:25.079 --> 02:27:29.080 Terrestrial Mutations, their first album, they're a Canadian prog thrash band. 02:27:30.379 --> 02:27:58.900 And if you guys have not checked this out yet, you should, because it's pretty cool. Next up, we have the band Order and their first album, Lex Amentier. It's like T-I-A-E. I don't know how the... T-I-E. I meant... T-I-E. T-I-E. Anyway, this band surprised me because it's two former members of the band Mayhem. 02:27:59.140 --> 02:28:29.040 And not just like recent members. These are like old school members of Mayhem. We're talking about Mannheim, who was on drums, and Messiah, who was on vocals. Both of these guys predated Hellhammer and Dead in the band. And it's a cool black metal-ish kind of album. I was really impressed by it. Two more on the short list. The first one surprised me that it was out and I hadn't heard about it. I've heard nothing about it. The band is called S-Tool. 02:28:29.140 --> 02:28:58.860 Which is a shitty name. Album is called Tolerance Zero. And this is the new project from Ville from Sentenced. And unlike Poison Black, it sounds a lot more like Sentenced. So I've been playing the crap out of this album. All right. And then one that I'm hoping that maybe Will has heard of is a band from the D.C. area called Shroud Ritual and their album Five Sons. Anything? I have not, no. 02:28:58.880 --> 02:29:28.780 They're an instrumental prog black death band that I literally went back through my emails to see. I'm sorry. Can you repeat that again? Prog black death. No, an instrumental prog death black band. Black death band. Yeah, it's basically just an instrumental metal band. It sounds kind of like a black metal album with no vocals. But I swear I had heard their name as somebody that had played. 02:29:28.900 --> 02:29:58.860 Atlas before so I like went and looked and I couldn't find anything so I was apparently wrong but no they maybe it's a premonition that they should be just saying what's the name of the band again shroud ritual look them up on band camp now where they where they from again um and could you say the name one more time please shut the fuck up okay I'll shut up all right so now the rest of this list 02:30:00.239 --> 02:30:28.040 is... Wait, why was that the short list? Because there's a story for the rest of the list. The rest of the list is entirely death metal. What? That's what I'm saying, because I'm the guy who doesn't listen to death metal, right? Well, usually I need a reason to listen to death metal. And I've been pretty pissed off for the last two weeks. And so I've been listening to a fuck ton of death metal. 02:30:28.900 --> 02:30:58.840 Is it because the Redskins suck? No. But they do. And so I've got a bunch of... It's a mix of old and new. Because I've been going back to the classics. But I've also discovered some really cool new ones. And I'm hoping maybe you've heard of... I know you've heard of one of them. Because it was on your mid-year list, Will. Okay. I'm going to go through this relatively quickly. Arch Spire Relentless Mutation is still kicking my ass. I freaking love that album. But then I went back to Autopne. 02:30:59.460 --> 02:31:28.680 Severed Survival and Mental Funeral. Good shit. A new album, well, new this year, called Azeroth. And the album's called In Extremis. Yeah, that was on my mid-year. It was, too? It sounds a lot like, yeah. Oh, well, there's another one that was on your list. They're a Polish black death band, and I'm loving this album. It's killer. I'm loving it. I love it. I've also been listening to Vile and Kill, 02:31:28.920 --> 02:31:29.660 from Cannibal Corpse. 02:31:31.479 --> 02:31:33.560 It kills my favorite Cannibal Corpse album. 02:31:33.930 --> 02:31:36.020 You turned me on to that album in a big, bad way. 02:31:36.290 --> 02:31:36.820 So thank you. 02:31:37.220 --> 02:31:37.480 Wait, wait. 02:31:37.640 --> 02:31:39.800 Can you just isolate that and say you turned me on? 02:31:39.860 --> 02:31:42.240 You turned me on in a big, bad way, big boy. 02:31:43.580 --> 02:31:45.640 That's the one with the slightly longer songs on it. 02:31:45.640 --> 02:31:46.340 Is that not correct? 02:31:47.060 --> 02:31:51.060 Are there the tunes on that one a little longer than the sort of average Cannibal Corpse tune? 02:31:51.959 --> 02:31:53.140 Not really, no. 02:31:53.300 --> 02:31:54.220 Okay, I don't know where I came up with it. 02:31:54.240 --> 02:31:56.620 There's something about that record that stands out to me, but go ahead, George. 02:31:56.660 --> 02:32:24.060 What stands out to me is that Corpse Grinder and Nuncy is a little bit more, and the songs are a little bit more distinguishable from earlier Cannibal Corpse stuff, which you can kind of get lost in the whole album, where it just sounds like a lot of times there's more hooky riffs and bridges and all that stuff on Kill that separate the songs a little bit more. That's all. In my opinion. 02:32:24.740 --> 02:32:54.540 Actually, it's funny because I don't own a lot of theirs, but I do own that one. And I think it's because you did recommend it once on an early episode you were on that you were on by when I wasn't here. You were on and we're talking about them or something. Yeah, it's great. Anyway, George. Yeah, it's okay. Next is Carcass and going back to what I think of as one of their best albums, Necroticism, Descanting the Insalubrious, if you can say that one. It is an awesome album. I love that album. Next up, we already mentioned it several times. 02:32:54.740 --> 02:33:24.700 Cryptopsy, None So Vile. It's just punishing, and I've been using that. Death All. Enough said. Another one that's kind of surprised me that's new that I was really enjoying is the new Decrepit Birth, Axis Mundi. Yep, I've been listening to that. That's good stuff. I've also been listening to the first three Deicide albums. Now, normally I only listen to the first two, but after Blake was on, I decided to give... 02:33:24.740 --> 02:33:54.700 Once Upon the Cross Another Go, and it was not bad. So there you go. Thanks, Blake. I've also been listening to... Blake Peterson from Lycee. Correct. Not Pig Destroyer, Blake. The New End Trails, World Inferno. Been checking that out. Expulsion, Nightmare Future. All 13 glorious minutes of it. Which I've... Related to that, I've also been listening to... 02:33:54.760 --> 02:34:22.820 to the new, not the new, the old Repulsion album, because Expulsion is exhumed plus Repulsion is Expulsion. Another one that I'm just loving, that I can't believe I haven't listened to, I know the band, but I have not listened to this album, is the band Hate and Tremendum. It's their 10th album, Polish death metal band. Another one from Will's List, Hideous Divinity. 02:34:24.720 --> 02:34:25.040 Oh, that's good. 02:34:26.000 --> 02:34:26.400 Advinians. 02:34:27.420 --> 02:34:29.060 Third album of Italian death metal. 02:34:29.420 --> 02:34:29.940 Good stuff. 02:34:30.160 --> 02:34:30.400 Really good. 02:34:32.100 --> 02:34:36.120 Sounds, uh, I remember Azeroth and Hideous Divinity. 02:34:36.400 --> 02:34:37.800 You remind me a little bit of Nile. 02:34:38.180 --> 02:34:38.380 Yeah. 02:34:38.800 --> 02:34:39.400 Yeah, definitely. 02:34:40.699 --> 02:34:43.440 Um, which I've also been listening to Annihilation of the Wicked. 02:34:43.800 --> 02:34:44.260 Fuck yeah. 02:34:45.660 --> 02:34:46.140 That's a good one. 02:34:46.440 --> 02:34:49.000 Um, another one I went out of order here. 02:34:49.120 --> 02:34:51.820 A band called, I'm guessing Mott, M-A-A-T. 02:34:53.000 --> 02:34:54.540 Monuments Will Enslave. 02:34:54.560 --> 02:35:23.980 Second Album of German Death Metal. Really digging it? If you haven't listened to that one, we'll check it out. That one is actually reminiscent of Niall as well, even in their imagery. First three Morbid Angels, duh. I skipped. I already said it. I was just listening. What the hell was I just listening to today? Motherfucker. Morbid Angel album. Sorry, go ahead. They're alphabetical. Altars of Madness. Blessed are the Sick. 02:35:25.020 --> 02:35:51.820 Domination. Alphabetical. Oh, yeah. Ultras of Madness. I mentioned Repulsion already, and so finally, we're ending with Suffocation Pierced from Within. Yeah, I just, you know, weirdly enough, somehow I didn't have it, and I just picked it up like a couple months ago. It's good stuff. It's the only one I didn't have, and I thought I had it. Now you do. 02:35:54.560 --> 02:36:24.260 All right, so that is my death metal orgy of death. I do like it. Yeah. Georgie. Yeah. Georgie of death. Yeah. So hopefully soon I'll be a little happier and back to just listening to black metal again. 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