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Now, here is the podcast, Metal Heads Podcast Go.

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Hello, and welcome to the Metal Heads Podcast.

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My name is George.

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This is Jay.

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This is John.

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This is Matt.

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This is Markison.

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And Will will not be joining us today because he's got better things to do.

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We are joined today by Keith D. of Arctic Sleep.

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Keith welcome back last time you were here was for unearthed elf how y'all doing

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today pretty good all right I think you had you got a haircut since the last time we saw you

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making that up it's all gone man that is a whole different guy yeah yeah yeah so first things first

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uh Keith could you just say the word fuck for me five times really fast why is that because you were

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telling me how you were so worried about swearing when you were on the radio recently. I want you to just get it out of your system. All right, man. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. There you go. You feel better now? You relaxed? I do. All right. That really kind of unrolled like it was pretty dramatic, to be honest with you. It was like he was trying to fix something and goddamn this thing. Kind of like I love to curse like that. And I do.

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Sometimes I do this thing called profane meltdowns, where I'll take the recording app on my phone, and when I'm sitting in my car, I'll just have a full-blown freakout and then listen to the playback and have a few laughs on it. Is that true? It is. That ain't so weird. It's like method podcasting tonight. I can do one for you later if you want. Certainly. So last month you released your seventh album with Arctic

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Sleep Kindred Spirits. Congratulations on that. Yeah, thanks a bunch. So why don't you start off by telling everyone a little bit about the history of Arctic Sleep and what the music sounds like? So Arctic Sleep is a project that I started with my friend Mike way back in 2005. So it's, what is that, like 15 years ago or something? 14. Okay. Yeah, something like 14 years ago.

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and have just been cranking out albums at our own pace ever since then. You know, bands gone through almost a different lineup change on every single album. But, you know, the music's remained pretty consistent, I feel. Awesome. So there's a theme on this record now. Well, actually, why don't I back that up and just go back to the beginning of,

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the recording for this album. I know you wrote the music and then something happened and then you wrote the lyrics. Yeah, that's right, man. So my the the music was for this album was all written with my best friend at my side who was a cat named Yoda and Yoda was was my cat for yeah, about same amount of time about 14 years. Actually, I met him right when Arctic Sleep started out. He was my wife's cat originally.

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And me and Yoda became really, really closely bonded over the years. He was a very, very special cat. Really, really intelligent and smart. And we just had like a really close fucking bond, man. And so for this album, you know, I had the title Kindred Spirits to begin with. I kind of started the album with that title. That was the very first thing I had in mind before I ever wrote any music or lyrics.

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or anything. And so I wanted that to be kind of the theme of the record was, you know, like the bond of friendship between, you know, me and my boy. And also the bond, the connection that, you know, I have with the Arctic Sleep fans that are all out there. And, you know, just any kind of anybody who has like a connection like that with somebody else, like a loved one or whatever. And so I wrote the music.

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all with my boys sitting right on my desk. So I write my music at my desk and I made him a little spot to sit down and I wrote all the guitar riffs, us just kind of looking at each other. And later on, when, you know, after I spent about a year writing the music for that, he had become really sick right when I finished writing all the music for the album. Almost like the timing was weird, man.

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And so he became really sick and passed away. And that was right when I started writing the lyrics. So all the music for the album, I, you know, kind of wrote with, you know, him and me looking at each other and the lyrics I wrote, you know, without him by my side. And so that loss and that kinship and that bond is kind of the driving force behind all the lyrics on that album.

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There's a lot of cat guys on this podcast, so I think there's a lot of feels right about now.

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Yeah, yeah, man. I was a little hesitant about doing something like that at first because I was like, you know, people, maybe not everybody will get it, you know, like that, you know, somebody could be so close friends with a cat, you know.

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People might think it's weird to have like a heavy album that is about something like that, you know.

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I was like maybe not everybody likes cats whatever but eventually those people I was like I'm not joking this is like you can really brought me down I mean cats are your family yeah my cats right here with me right now we literally uh after having Ray from Immortal Bird on uh grabbed the uh the domain name MetalheadsPodCats and uh

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I've been sort of dragging my feet, but I'm going to connect a page to our site that you were all redirects to with pictures of everybody's cats.

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By the way, we'll do it with guests, too. So if you want to honor your cat, we'd be happy to have a photo of them there.

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Yep, I was going to say, you should send one.

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I was a little hesitant, you know, to be how far up front I wanted to be with that whole theme and everything.

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But then eventually I was like, you know what, fuck everybody.

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I don't give a shit what the fuck anybody thinks or anything. I'm gonna make this album a tribute to my boy. So when you open up the vinyl, there's a beautiful illustration of him that Jennifer Weiler, the artist that did the album cover did. And, you know, you can kind of put two and two together when you read the lyrics and see that in there. Now, I noticed on Facebook the other day that you commented on an old post.

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about another cat that you had. And I'm seeing a naming theme here. Yeah, yeah, that cat was a stray that we found outside that was starving. And she was only with us for a couple years, but same thing, we got really close. And yeah, when I met my wife, she had two cats named Yoda and Wicket, which of course is, you know, the Jedi Master and also the Ewok from Star Wars, man.

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And so when we found this other cat, we decided to just keep on with the Star Wars theme, name her Princess Leia. Nice. Nice. Cool. I noticed, I guess I'm jumping ahead a little bit, but at the end of the album, I think I heard purring on the end. Is that your cat purring? It is. Yeah. That was a recording that I did at home that was taken like just a couple weeks before he passed away.

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And so I recorded a few tracks of Yoda purring because he had a very hardy purr. And I recorded a few tracks of that and then layered them on top of each other and looped it. So for kind of a like a trippy effect. So yeah, that's exactly what it is. Great. Nice tribute. Yeah. Hey, I don't think you're alone on having an album with cats this year. I don't know if you've checked out Devin Townsend's latest, but he's got the whole space

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This cat's thing going theme for his album. But hey, just real quick, you said that the music was written beforehand. Did any of the music change as you started writing the lyrics? Because obviously your mindset was going to be a lot different since you had this theme going about your cat. Did you change anything to kind of fit where the direction the lyrics were going? Not really. My writing process is, I always, it's a little weird. I come up with song titles.

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first. And then I write the music for it. And then I write all the instrumental parts for the songs. And lyrics and vocal parts are something I come up with absolutely last. I know this is pretty much your baby now at this point. But who else contributed to the record? Yeah, it's always been my baby, to be quite honest with you. You know, I've kept it going through thick and thin.

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and throughout all these years, like no matter what. What was the question again? I know there are other people on the album other than you. I thought you might want to mention them. Yeah, yeah, that's right. So most importantly is, you know, I played all the instruments on the album except for the drums. And for this album, I got Nick Smolkowski to return to play drums on the album.

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So he was previously with us. He played on the albums Earth to Earth and Arbors. And then we split ways, you know, for a while. And then we did the album Passage of Gaia. And a lot of time went by. We didn't talk or nothing. And I forget what happened. But after a while, I was thinking, you know, we were such good buddies and such good friends. It's stupid, you know, to let a friendship, you know, go down.

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the toilet or anything. So I got in touch with them and we rekindled that friendship and got back together. And it was really, really important to me that that whole friendship got mended and that he came and played on another album. And we just had a great fucking time with the whole thing. That's great. That kind of plays into the theme of the album a little bit as well. Absolutely. Yeah, it totally does. It's so weird.

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Yeah.

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So where did you record the album and with who?

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So for this album, we all went on out to upstate New York in Montgomery is the name of the town.

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And it's just kind of a rural town, I guess, out in the middle of nowhere.

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And the studio is called Nada Recording Studio.

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And is that nada or not a?

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Well, I think it's supposed to be like a play on words or something. Which way is it spelled? N-A-D-A. Okay. Yeah. Like Nada. And I thought that meant like nothing recording studio or something. But I guess it's a play on words. Like it's like when he picks up the phone, he says it's not a recording studio or something. I just went, I just passed by a restaurant called Nada the other day. I was like, well, I guess I can't get anything to eat there. Right. Yeah. They ain't got nothing. They ain't got nada. Well, yeah. John Neclerio.

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I might be butchering the pronunciation of his last name. We do that all the time. And yeah, he's worked with, you know, some, like he did like a lot of the, like the alternative press bands, you know, where it's like a bunch of 19 year old kids with swooshy haircuts and singing about feelings and stuff. Emo and like did a lot of those My Chemical Romance records and shit like that. Nice. Yeah. Totally not stuff.

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I'm into, but when I'm going around listening to mix reels and figuring out who to work with, all that's important to me is how the recordings sound and everything.

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But did you kind of want to try that, though? Somebody who wasn't necessarily working with bands like yourself and to do something completely different to get that perspective?

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Yes, exactly. Yeah, I do like working with producers who are keen on more doing pop music, really.

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because I like my production to sound a certain way and people who are really good at working with vocalists to get good takes and everything is very important to me. The production's killer on that record. It's really clear. It's gorgeous. Yeah. So you did a Kickstarter for the album. What was that experience like? It was horrible.

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I'm a couple myself so I know. Have you really? Oh yeah. It's to go about such a

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daunting task like that pretty much completely on your own

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is quite a task. This is the third one that I've run

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and it's really humbling and inspiring

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like the amount of support that was received from it. So I was really

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grateful for like just the Arctic Sleep fan base

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that's out there and everybody that shared it on social media and spread the word and everything. My stuff, I rely almost completely on word of mouth from people. Arctic Sleep has a really good fan base that I consider to be kindred spirits. They were the ones that made that happen. I remember when the album was getting ready to be released and you were packaging things up to go out.

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And you posted a picture of like all the stuff. And it was just boxes and boxes of stuff. I'm like, well, it seems like you did pretty well with the Kickstarter then. Yeah, it was the most successful one that I've had so far. But that's how it works. You know, each each album you put out, you know, should be a little bit better than the last one. And, you know, people share the music and your fan base grows little by little by little. You know, you just have to.

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Just not give up.

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It's great.

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Well, one of the things you had on the Kickstarter was a coffee.

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And I just ordered the albums and the coffee.

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And I haven't tried it yet, but I'm going to brew it tomorrow.

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So it smells wonderful.

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So how did that come about?

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How did that collaboration with the coffee brewers come out?

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Eat a spoonful of the beans right now.

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Just eat them up.

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Just eat them.

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Yeah.

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You don't got to brew nothing.

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Just eat them.

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They're that good. Yeah. What was the question? I'm sorry. Well, how did the collaboration with the coffee brewers come about? Yes. So the coffee roaster is called Anodyne. Anodyne coffee roasters here in Milwaukee. And, you know, I was kind of thinking, you know, last time I did like a beer glass and everything, but this time I wanted to do a coffee mug. So that was the idea. And I was like, how cool would it be if I had, you know, something made that people could

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I would ask around to a couple of local coffee roasters and be like, hey, would you be willing to do like an Arctic Sleep branded coffee roast? And, you know, I promised them that I would buy a certain amount of bags like at a wholesale price and everything. And, you know, I hit up like a couple of smaller coffee roasters thinking that they'd be more willing to do it. But I never heard back from any of them. So just kind of on a whim, I decided to email.

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The guy from Anodyne's, I'd sold him some microphones one time, so I still had his email. And I was totally expecting them to just not return my email ever or be like, sorry, we don't have time for that or something, you know. But to my surprise, they were totally willing to do it, and they were excited about the idea, and they worked with me throughout the whole thing. Awesome. How many cups do you drink a day? Oh, just one or two.

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I might drink a few more than that myself. I would if I could handle it, but if I have more than two cups of coffee, man, I fucking tweak. I lose my shit. What kind of roast is it? I don't know. It's coffee. I wasn't really involved, actually. I was so busy with all this other shit going on, I was just like, I don't know, just make something. I'm sure it'll be good.

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I didn't like going there and do cupping or anything. Not Juan Valdez in there? No. Okay, that's not what I'm asking, George. No, it makes a difference, John. Well, no, the reason I ask is because I can't drink anything from Starbucks because they over roast and they practically charcoal it to death. So I'm a mild roast myself. They didn't used to, though. That wasn't true about Starbucks when they started. No, it's become absolute garbage. That was bullshit, yeah.

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I mean I'm a total coffee snob. I have specific regions that I like to get my stuff from. So that's why I was asking. So. Oh, yeah. What's it like a medium or a light roast? Yeah, I make it. What's your reason, man? I'm a big fan of Papua New Guinea. So I like stuff from there. My better half likes stuff from Ethiopia. So we know that's my favorite. Yeah, we tend to get a lot from from that region of the world, too. So, yeah, single source if you can. I know it sounds snobby as shit, but it does make a difference. No, I.

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I hear you. I'm with you. It doesn't say what kind of roast it is on the bag, but it doesn't smell dark to me, John. It's a blend. Is it a blend? Okay. It's a blend. Yeah. I told them to kind of just do something similar to their house blend that would be, you know, pretty kind of a crowd pleaser, you know, nothing too weird. Yeah. No, it's cool. Awesome. Now you're working on a beer as well, aren't you? Well, I'm not working. You know what? Yeah.

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But yeah, my friend Chris Thompson, who is a brewer at a brewery called Cognition Brewing Company, and that's way up in the UP. The UP, eh? Yeah, the UP, the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. And yeah, I sent him a bunch of the Arctic Sleep coffee, and he's going to make a coffee porter that's based on one of my homebrew restaurants.

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I can do this.

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Yeah. Nice. So while we're on the subject, what is everybody drinking? It's from Three Notch. It's called Firefly Nights. It's just kind of a summertime ale. It's only 5%. So just something light tonight. Mark's on. I got a beer called Grendel. It's blurry because of your. Oh, geez. Put it in front of your face. There you go. That's cool. It's.

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The Bourbon Barrel Age Stock Ale from Miskatonic. It is 10.5%. Miskatonic? I didn't know there was a Miskatonic brewery. That's awesome. Yeah, it's in Illinois. It's in Darien, Illinois, so it's local. Miskatonic being the H.P. Lovecraft thing. Well, Grendel is one of my favorite books of all time. I love the story of Grendel and Beowulf. Beowulf, yeah. So I picked it up. It's pretty good. I just want to note that, like,

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and a half hours ago that he was busting out the brooming horn so how you feeling buddy i feel great you know i'm a life champion drinker i fucking love your superpower because right now like if i drank what you drank i would be in the hospital and you're just you're just like having a normal conversation i would have already told you my life story slurring my speech like hey man it's all good this is yeah five percent yeah i had a nine percent beer before that but that just happened after that made my wife left for a hawaii so she's gone for two

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I guess I'll drink. As we do. What about you, Matt? I've got from McKellar Brewing, I've got an Imperial IPA called Wicked Six Spells. It is not 10%, but the way it will affect me, it probably seems like it is. And not to be rude in front of everybody, but you're all watching me eat a sandwich from Jersey Mike's because it's like right on supper time here. I don't know if you guys saw me jump when my wife came in.

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I had no idea she was home, man. She was just like, what the fuck? She came with a sandwich. I saw your surprise, Jay. Did you? I really do. We all did, Jay. I see Keith is pouring something new there, so what do you got? Oh, tonight I'm drinking Belhaven Scottish Ale. That's right. You mentioned that. I'm jealous. I'm jealous. Especially out of that big mug. Yeah. Right now,

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I've got my last of the nightmare man cuerda. So, Will will be happy that I didn't let it sit around for another six months. All right. Back to music. So, rather, let's talk about art instead. I think you already mentioned it, but just in case, who was it that did the artwork? So, the cover art and, well, all the art on the,

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album jacket was done by jennifer weiler and um she also did the cover art for a

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previous album passage of gaia and was just really really great to work with um the the art speaks for

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itself i mean her talent's just off the charts i'm sitting here looking at the the original uh illustration which i have framed right above my desk here right now and it like it looks real it's

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It's crazy that somebody did that like with colored pencils and stuff, you know, the colors both for this one and Gaia are intense. Yeah, that's that's very striking. Yeah, I actually put up a time lapse video on YouTube. I've heard illustrating it. It's pretty fascinating. I was mesmerized by that. I watched it like three times in a row. Yeah, yeah. It was just really cool. I'm shocked that that's colored pencils. That's amazing, man. I mean, I thought it was paint or something. She's just colored pencils and

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something else, too. That's really something. Jay, check out her Instagram page. She's got a ton of stuff up there. It's cool. I will. That's awesome. Yeah, and she's going to be soon doing some prints of that artwork. Yeah, a limited run of them. So when she gets those up, you know, I'll be cross-promoting them on my page, too. So be sure to pick one up and support her stuff and, you know, go like her on

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Instagram and Facebook and all that. Jennifer Weiler. Definitely. Yeah. I mean, you know, we do top five metal album covers of the year. It's definitely a contender for that for me. I would say it's going to be on a couple of lists probably. Yeah. But there's always somebody that I'm not going to say who. There's always somebody that's going to shit the bed on that. You, George, probably. I wasn't thinking that, but yeah, anyway.

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So I read a couple of reviews for the album. One of them was from Toilet of Hell. And they said that this was a less aggressive album than Gaia. Do you agree with that assessment? Fucking Toilet of Hell. First, they made fun of my Unearthed Elf album cover, and then they go and say something like that. But no, I totally agree with them. It's true. It is a less aggressive passage of Gaia. We were... There's some...

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some anger on Passage of Gaia. A lot of double bass drum blasting. A lot of angrier sounding riffs on there. Here and there anyway. I feel like Kindred Spirits has different lyrical themes and different musical themes. I wasn't quite so pissed off on Kindred Spirits. I was more just bittersweet.

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and wanted to emote more feelings of compassion and being connected with people.

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We could use a lot of that these days, that's for sure.

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It sounds weird to say something like that about a heavy album, but I think heavy metal music can be everything emotionally from anger to love to everything in between.

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It's such a versatile music genre that you can do anything with it. Well, and the thing is, the content's heavy. You know, some of the music's really heavy, but the content, the meaning behind it's heavy. And that translates really well. Absolutely. Have you gone back and listened to the album now, after it's been a while, you've had a chance to digest it, to kind of go back and hear the music with, like Marcus and I was saying, with the actual lyrics, you know, and the content of the album?

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I'm curious to see if it's the same kind of emotional response still resonates or if it's different or if it's heavier or it's lesser. Yeah, no, it's the same. It brings everything to the surface. I couldn't listen to it for a while because I was just I was sick of it. You know, just like during the recording process, you're constantly like listening, like with a critical ear and thinking about the mix and blah, blah, this and that.

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I always listen to the album like 10 million times. I listen to my demos 10 million times and constantly picking everything apart and analyzing everything. So some time has to pass before I can finally just sit back and listen to it just as a listener and just kind of enjoy the album as a music listener. I think I'm just now getting to that stage where if it pops up on my iPod shuffle or whatever, I actually don't skip it.

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I feel like the Arctic Sleep sound is a fairly unique one. What influences combined to inspire this sound? You know, I've always enjoyed heavy metal music quite a bit, but I don't always want to make, you know, music that is like, you know, really, really

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I wanted to create heavy metal music that had the elements of heavy metal, the big drums and the chugging guitars and everything, but also was beautiful at the same time. And that's what I'm going for a lot of the time when I write. I want the music to sound beautiful, but still kick you in the balls at the same time.

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Cool. That is definitely accomplished on the new album. So John and I are really big fans of ambient music, and you have quite a bit of that, especially on the last track. And I was wondering, you know, what inspired you to put that on the album? And are you a big fan of ambient music? Yeah, I like Drone quite a bit. And yeah, I like ambient music. I've been listening to ambient music ever since I was a really small kid, actually.

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When I used to have a lot of trouble sleeping, and one of the things my mom would do is get these new age tapes. This was in the mid-80s, these cassette tapes of this kind of new age. I guess back then it was synthesizer. Enya? Yeah, not Enya, but you know. Kataro and David Erkenstone. I fucking hate Enya. But yeah, it was basically drone music that was

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that's supposed to help you relax. And I really liked those tapes and I've been listening to stuff like that ever since. What was the question again? You know, what inspired you to put the ambient parts on the album and, you know, are you a big fan of ambient music? Yeah, yeah, there was that. And, you know, I've always had like an element of ambient or drone on almost every Arctic Sleep album.

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But I try to keep it subdued because I know that's not for everybody and will cause a lot of people to tune out. You know, like on the album Abysmal Lullabies, I opened like the first eight minutes or so of that.

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of the episode for the evening. Markassan happened to be recording

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on his end when my power went out. And so he sent me his copy of the recording that he made.

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And it's kind of amusing, but they didn't notice I was gone for like five minutes or so.

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So here's a little bit of what happened after I was knocked out of the call.

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Eight minutes or so of the album is just, it's just drone.

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And that is probably enough to clear the room. And anybody who's still around is going to be able to hear the rest of the album. So on Passage of Gaia, I did not do any drone stuff specifically because I wanted it to just be a straightforward rock album. But on the new one, I went with my who cares what anybody thinks attitude and decided to make that last track a drone track. If I'm to be totally honest, it was filler.

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I had some time left and I knew that I was sticking to the vinyl format. And I was like, shit, I'm going to have about 10 minutes left. What am I going to do? So that whole song was made in the studio. Basically, I was standing outside of the studio, which is is located just deep in the woods. It's just surrounded by forest. And I was standing outside just listening to all these crickets. And they're crazy, man, just just crazy fucking loud crickets and Katie dids and everything.

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So I ran inside of the studio and I said to John, I was like, dude, let's take two condenser mics, point them in either direction outside, run them outside and just record this shit for like 15 minutes and I'll do some stuff over it. That's awesome. You put some field recordings on the album. Yeah, I've always wanted to do that too. If you listen to abysmal lullabies, it starts out with crickets, but that was a sample, like a royalty-free sample.

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And this time I was able to do it the way I'd always wanted to, with actually recording the real insects that were there. I've just always been fascinated by how they sound. I do like some field recordings from some of the ambient artists I like, and I kind of enjoy how they can kind of manipulate it and turn it into something completely different than what it originally started out as. But it's the actual recording itself and not something, like you said, that you picked up off of some service or some free site or whatever.

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For sure. And it works really well in the album because, you know, I read about it a little bit about the cat and everything, and it's very reflective, contemplative, you know, and then it merges into those purrs at the end. Yeah. It worked really well. So, love it. Appreciate that. Did we lose someone?

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Yeah, we need to lose George. Yeah. Weird. And also, pardon my rudeness, guys. I literally just had to get rid of dishes and stuff. Don't mean to be rude to our guest. Oh, I think we actually did lose George. Yeah. This part will probably be edited out. I'm thinking so. Also. Hold on one sec. Hold on. Yeah, hello? Yeah, we lost you. No, we need to keep this part. The power. Well, we can't. George is the one who's recording.

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I actually record every cast just as backup. Awesome. You have to be the best at everything. God damn it, I love you. You fucking hammered it in your recording. I always have a contingency plan. That's the way I work. So George is probably worried that he won't get that. But yeah, I should have it unless something happens. So now it's three days later.

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the rest of this episode. So, without further ado, here you go. Hello, we're back. Everybody want to reintroduce themselves? I'm George. This is Jack. I'm John. This is Matt. This is Mark San. And we have Keith from Arctic Sleep, who was kind enough to join us again, what, three days later, four days later, after the power outage,

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that so abruptly ended.

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I've been here the whole time.

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Been patiently waiting on the line.

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I was wondering what happened.

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Where'd everybody go?

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And yeah, the guys were speculating that I think it was Jay that said, George is probably spitting venom and you better fucking believe it.

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I was pissed.

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Yeah, I'm out in the boonies here, and when it storms badly, the power goes out, and it usually takes a couple hours to come back, and it was out for a good two hours, and it's been like thunderstorming every day since. Luckily, it happened earlier in the day today, so hopefully we're good for the next couple of hours. So, let's get back into that interview. I still had a few questions left. I don't know about the rest of you guys.

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Go, Kenko.

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All right, Keith.

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I don't remember what we were talking about.

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No, no, no, no. I think you guys kind of wrapped up that line of questioning that you were on.

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You were talking about the drone stuff and the ambient stuff.

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Right, right.

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I also like that you said, all right, Keith, and he thought you meant pick it up where you left.

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All right, Keith. Perform for me, monkey. Perform.

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As I was saying.

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Yes.

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Yeah, so, no, I have a question. So, seven albums in with Arctic Sleep, what keeps you inspired to keep writing? Boy, I don't know. I think there's a lot of times when, you know, I feel like not doing it anymore, but probably the main drive that keeps me going is, you know, not sound cliche, but it's mostly the fans.

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You know, I do get a lot, you know, in the four years or so where I wasn't really doing anything there for a little bit, you know, did receive a lot of nice messages from people, you know, hoping for new music and everything. So that's what that's the main thing that inspired me to, to, you know, keep making more albums after every single one. Right on. Where to go here? Does anybody else have any specific album related questions?

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I ask what are your what's your favorite track on the album Keith oh man my personal

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favorite is the closing track as palms give way to pines well it's the second to closing track

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yeah that song's definitely my favorite on there how come man I don't know I because boy I don't

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I think there's something about the melodies in that song and just the contemplative lyrics and everything and I really like just the big simple chord progressions and I really enjoyed like the organ parts that I threw in there and everything. I like throwing my organ parts in there. I just think it's a cool sounding track and you know that's the one that I usually get stuck in my head the most.

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Sorry to be totally childish in the middle of your answer, by the way. Hmm. All right. Anybody else? Anybody else? No. All right. Well, I can answer stuff that's not related to the music, too. Well, there's some music stuff, but I wanted to talk about perhaps some other projects like Chopping Mall. I know you guys talked about it a little bit, but I wasn't there for that. So.

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I don't recall what exactly was said so we may have some overlap of content here but tell us a little bit about Chopping Mall what made you decide to do these tracks I don't know what that is what Chopping Mall I'm just kidding I was like what did I write that down wrong boy the look on everyone's faces when you said that Keith they're like whoa

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Well, you know, the first time he was on, when he was on for Unearthed Elf, instead of saying Arctic Sleep, I got mixed up with the Tiamat album Astral Sleep. And I said Astral Sleep and totally got corrected on that one. So I was having flashbacks. I was like, ah, what did I do? Yeah, the Chopping Mall stuff is just me goofing around, basically. You know, I spend a lot of time, the Arctic Sleep music is very slow.

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and personal and everything. And once in a while, I just need to blow off some steam and make something that's just ridiculous and stupid and awful. And so that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Like songs like that. And so I make that stuff just in my basement. You know, I record it all myself and I put like literally almost no thought whatsoever into it. It's just an opportunity to turn off my brain and, you know, have a few.

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Yeah. Now, I know, I do recall that you guys were talking about the Starship one that we built this city. And I just wanted to throw in my two cents that I was I really like the the men at work. Who can it be now? I freaking love that song. Oh, cool. Yeah, I've been on this kick lately where I've been just making like kind of like kind of punky grindcore versions of 80s power ballads and, you know, new wave hits and hair metal songs and stuff.

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So, you know, it's just me having fun. I'm not going to release it or anything because I don't want to get sued by Gene Simmons. But of course, you know, I put it on SoundCloud because let's face it, nobody sees anything that's on SoundCloud. So that's that's where it is. And check out the Metalheads podcast on SoundCloud. SoundCloud.com. All right. Can I get back just to shitting in Joel Steen's mouth?

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Have you thought about selling that to whoever makes cards against humanity? Because I feel like that is a card right there. I'm not familiar with what that is. You don't know cards against humanity? No, what is that? It is a game that is like super inappropriate, super hilarious. Okay. It's basically that you draw cards that have phrases on them and whoever's turn it is flips over a card of a different color. Like they're white cards, whereas in your hand you have black.

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And the white cards have like a statement that says, you know, this happened to me at the store the other day. And then you everybody lays down the card secretly that they think is the funniest response to the white card. And then the person who's turn it was they shuffle the cards and read them all and pick which one is the funniest. And there's things like, you know, dick fingers and and, you know, all sorts of.

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Bukaki. Sex with a corpse. Yeah, really inappropriate things that it's just a freaking hilarious game to play. And in fact, I was talking to John and Will the other day at one of the shows, probably Kiss. I want to do a Metal Heads Against Humanity episode where me and John and Will and maybe TR, possibly Z, sit together in a room, drink beer and play Cards Against Humanity.

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for three hours.

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Anyway, that was the longest fucking answer ever.

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I'm sorry.

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Yeah.

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I just want to clarify, too, that I didn't mean to offend anyone with my SoundCloud comment.

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No, no, it was funny.

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To you guys and all the owners.

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Unless it's the owners of SoundCloud, I wouldn't worry about it either.

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Yeah.

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We are very used to being ignored.

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To all the bedroom producers and mumble rappers out there.

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Sorry about that.

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You're all stars in our eyes

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My favorite Cards Against Humanity card is

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a motherfucking sorcerer

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It always wins

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I actually

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I put on my brother-in-law's address

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sorcerer because I played that card

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in the game

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It was so fitting

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Nice

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I would like to do one with all

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Maybe we could do one at

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Decibel next year with all of us

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In the meantime

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do one with the people that I can get in a room. Unless y'all want to fly out here for a game of Cards Against Humanity. It actually started here in Chicago, and I had a friend who knew the people who developed the game. So I actually got a test run of the game before it even came out. Really? And got to play it. That was really fun. And then, of course, it exploded everywhere, and it's like one of the biggest games ever. But yeah. Except in Keith's world. Except in Keith's world. Well, he doesn't leave the basement much, so. There's a lot of things that I'm not familiar with, man. Well, yeah.

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You should get that game and then make some friends to play it with. Okay. I'm still rocking like Monopoly over here. Classic. This game has left me unable to breathe because I've been laughing so hard. And then the next day my stomach hurt because I pulled all the stomach muscles laughing so much. So I got to check that out. It was good times. It makes sense that Keith doesn't know about it because he is half-elf. He's really old school.

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Speaking of which, I feel like at some point in recent time, I heard you say that you might be starting to work on some new unearthed elf music. Is that true? Yeah, it is. I've been kind of just in a state of limbo lately. You know, after all the effort I put into releasing Kindred Spirits, I just really, for lack of a better term, I just really blew my load with that whole thing.

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And I'm just in a state of where I just feel kind of drained and not sure which way to go right now. Hence me just making Chopping Mall songs right now. But yeah, I am slowly beginning to write new Unearthed Elf music. Cannot wait. Yeah, it's not going to come out anytime soon, but you know, I'm getting there. All right.

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I had a question that said, have you been keeping up with any recent music? But in talking with you, I know that you have not. You say you really only listen to stuff that's like years old. Yeah. You know, I, I, I'm more likely to like dig back in time when it comes to discovering new music. I'm mostly a lot of the time I'm discovering new old music that I have never heard before. So that's, that's what I spend a lot of my time.

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When I'm searching for new things to listen to, I'm discovering things that were released 30 years ago or something. I still buy, check out new albums once in a while. But, you know. Well, I'll save what you've been listening to for what you've been listening to later on. Yeah, I do have some stuff I've been listening to that is new, though. I'm not a total curmudgeon. That's John. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.

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All right.

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I have my one final stock question that I ask everybody.

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This is the deep one, or maybe not.

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What song or artist had a major impact on your life and why?

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Oh, man, that's that's that would probably just off the top of my head.

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It would probably be the Melvins.

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The Melvins were the first band that I ever saw live in concert. That was back in 1993 at the Aragon Ballroom in Chicago when they opened for Primus. And when they came on stage, I had never heard anything like that before. That was just really slow and sludgy, and it was totally different than everything I was listening to at that time.

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And it just kind of opened up a whole new world for me. Back then I was, what, maybe like 15 years old or something. So, yeah, I think that band in particular, when I discovered them, just, you know, really opened doors to some other places for me musically. Cool. Good answer. Keith, I do have one question. Have you ever been approached to do any voiceover work for cartoons? Because, I mean, your voice is sweeter than Honeysuckle on the vine.

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You know, I've never been approached about it, but it's something that I've been pondering for a long time. I have always actually wanted to get into some kind of voiceover work, and I even went as far as to making some little demos and stuff, but I never really knew where to go with it. So if anybody out there listening needs some voiceover work for your corporate videos or cartoons or, you know,

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Emergency Notification Recordings or anything like that. I'm available. Nice. That's awesome. I love that you've thought about it. That's great. You know, I actually thought about it myself when going back and listening to the footage from Sunday that, you know, was abbreviated. And I'm listening to his voice going, we need to get him to say something. Like, you know, you're listening to the Metalheads podcast. Yeah, I can do that for you anytime, man. I have done a few.

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tags for radio stations that have asked me to out there. So I'm always happy to provide things like that. You could do that right now. You know, I got a microphone and stuff. So I mean, seriously, just say it right now. What should I say? Say you're listening to the Metalheads podcast. You're listening to the Metalheads podcast. I got a chub, man. That was awesome. That is beautiful. I don't know how you got deeper. I know. Yeah, I could. How about?

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like you're listening to the metalhead broadcast.

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It's a little too.

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If you don't like it, then go to hell.

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I was going to say, I was on a video shoot for where I work today, which we do fairly often.

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And I feel like we are always talking about voiceover work.

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So Keith, I'm going to file that away in my brain.

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You may get a note.

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Yeah, do it, man.

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I'll work cheap.

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Right on.

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I'm going to have to change all my base selections in the top five to Keith.

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I don't need a bassist. I'll just use Keith.

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Any other questions before we move on to the rest of the episode?

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I had one, Keith.

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Just looking at the work you produce, kind of the range, the contrast between it all.

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Is there, I mean, is there a spot musically or with metal kind of like a genre-wise where your heart lies?

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Or do you find yourself in multiple genres or just floating around?

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Yeah, you know, there is.

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It's funny.

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I don't really listen to any bands that sound like Arctic Sleep. When people compare Arctic Sleep to other bands like in reviews or whatever, I've never heard of any of them. And I go and check them out and I'm like, it's boring. Who have you been compared to? Or do you not want to say? Now whoever I say, they're going to think that I think that's boring. Can I say one that reminded me of when I listened to Arctic Sleep?

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So, and I hope this doesn't offend you, because I fucking love this band, but the most recent album sounds like a heavier version of the band Failure. Oh, no, no. Why would I be offended by that? Failure's great. I was thinking you were going to say something really embarrassing. I love Failure, but I feel like Arctic Sleep's a little bit heavier, but I could feel some of that spaciness, some of the melody involved in it. For sure. Yeah, but I don't really listen to, like,

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a whole time like a of you know a sludge and

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I really only listen to a little bit of doom metal and things like that but

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my favorite sub genres of heavy metal are probably grind core and power metal nice two genres that go very well together yeah yeah

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I uh I read on No Clean Singing that they said you sound like Devin Townsend

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Wow. That's, you know, there's been multiple reviews that have cited the name Devin Townsend. And I, I'm just floored by that. I actually never really listened to Devin Townsend until I read that in one of those reviews. And, you know, I'll get to it later, but I'm, I'm now a humongous fan.

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And after listening to that, you know, being compared to, you know, someone that's that I consider to be on that high of a level, it's just like, I'm not worthy, you know? You might be. You might be. Do you think, by the way, though, do you think they meant, and I'm just being facetious here, but do you think they meant the band Anathema or the concept, which we are really insulting? He's very Anathema. Wouldn't that be a terrible thing to say? He's a man. He's not.

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of all time. That's right. Didn't you go to Europe to see them? Yeah. I went and saw Anathema in Dublin, Ireland, and also in Belfast in Northern Ireland. When did you go see them? I've traveled to see them in Seattle and Oregon, and I've seen them in Chicago. I'm a huge Anathema fan. Love them. I think they're one of the best bands in the world. When did you go see them in Europe, Keith? That was right after

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Distant Distance Satellites came out. So, yeah, I think like four years ago or something. Is it really that long? Wow. I don't know. It's a definitely memory pull for me then. I don't have a good concept of time, so it might not be accurate. I saw them in London and in Bristol. Oh, wow. Back in 2004. 2004 or 5. They opened for a porcupine tree. Cool. Yeah.

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All right. Shall we move on? Yeah. Do it, George. All right. Let's get into the news. Now, this first one is one that I have added since we started this episode on Sunday. Because since then, King Diamond has announced a tour of

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And some of us on the show have already acquired tickets to said show. VIP tickets. VIP motherfucking tickets. Yes. And Jay, tell them what they've won. Okay. Actually, I'll read it to you. I'll tell you exactly what you want. Give me two seconds here. So I've got the list because I've looked at it multiple times.

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I assume we all got the medium grade lobotomy package is that correct correct sir okay so here's what you get one general admission ticket fun VIP early entry into the venue of course exclusive pre-show meet and greet with the king himself personal photograph with the king himself specifically designed institutionalized scarf limited print institution institutionalized tour poster autographed by king diamond himself I'm adding the himself since that's an obvious custom king diamond guitar pick set with custom case official institutionalized

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institutionalized medical bracelet, official King Diamond meat and great laminate, exclusive King Diamond VIP merchandise item. That's it. Right on. But isn't that plenty? Yeah, yeah. And I wanted to note, you mentioned it was a general admission ticket, but apparently the show in Baltimore, which is at the Lyric Theater, does not have a general admission section. It is seats right up to the stage. And according to Ticketmaster, I have a ticket front row center, which I have never had for a show before. Wow.

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And for King Diamond, nipples are hard. Diamond hard? Cutting diamonds, yes. So, damn. Yeah, looking forward to that. And of course, actually, we hadn't mentioned this yet either, but Jay and I also bought tickets for Valken 2020. Merciful Fate Reunion, so there's King Diamond theme there as well. So we'll see King in November and Fate in July.

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And even though this is obvious by the institution kind of theme of the thing, this King Diamond Tour is supposed to have like a whole new stage set, new props. Obviously, he'll be doing some of the new songs. So, you know, this is going to be a barn burner for sure. And he was great last time I saw him. How many of us went to the Abigail Tour? I did. It was great, right? Yes, it was. That was at the Fillmore. So this is going to be a definite step up. Cool. I mean, he can, I saw him at the Warfield where I'm seeing him.

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And again, he's sold the place out. I mean, he's been away for a while, you know, so. Yeah. He's coming back a legend. We all thought he was a legend. Now everybody else is catching on. Exactly. So that's good stuff. So another thing that has been a big anticipatory deal is that the Tool album is actually finally dropping next week. And they have released a song, the title track, Fear Inoculum, to

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Contestically mixed reviews. Well, amongst the podcast, but I'm kind of siding more now with Markisan, to be honest with you. The first time I listened to it, I might even had a chip on my shoulder. I don't know. I'm willing to admit that, you know, I think a record more than once every 15 years or whatever the hell it is. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like too old, but it's different. It grows on you. I keep listening to it and I feel like I find more stuff in the song and I want to keep listening to it, which is weird because it's

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So I mean, that says something to me. I guess I need to listen to it more. I had a hard time getting through it once. I just thought it was kind of boring. But... Well, even though I just saw what I said about Markastown, I agree with you too. Because I just felt it was sort of meandering. And I know that there are people that do like it. And I'm a tool fan that likes opiate.

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Undertow, Ananima. And that's pretty much it. Everybody's like, but you gotta love Lateralist. I'm like, nah, it's kind of boring. So that's where my head is. I love up one further than you. I'll go all the way to Lateralist, but the truth is I don't like 10,000 Days. I didn't think that was particularly good. So that was also why I was sort of doubtful about this one. And I'm still on the fan. I mean, I'm skeptical. We'll see. Still on the fan? I'm on the fan. As Mel Brooks would say, can't you see this? Yeah. I'm talking about Blazing Saddles.

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He doesn't finish his sentences. I'm still on the Fed. But sir, you're still on the Fed. I don't want to say it because it's actually a bad word, like a racist word. Right, right. I mean, it could be one of those things, too, where you have to listen to the whole album, and then that song works. It's possible. I'll give it a shot. It's the first song on the album, mind you, too, though. But I hear what you're saying. That is true, yeah. Yeah, so they're not going to come charging in with something else first. That's the way it starts. And that also doesn't bode too well for it. They're like, yeah, we'll just slowly grind.

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this thing to a start for 10 minutes, you know, far be it for me. Keith, do you have an opinion? On, uh, I've never been a huge Tool fan, really. I think their drummer is absolutely amazing. But, wow, I'm having a fun time just watching everybody's reactions to it, because I have, like, you know, no horse in this race, really. But, man, Tool fans, I would say, are, like, so intense. They're, like, so opinionated.

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They're kind of like dream theater fans in that way where they're like always like fighting on the internet with each other and everything so yeah that's a good summation to be honest it's true man yeah you know the only difference though is at least dream theater fans have something to fight about you know you mean new music yeah yeah all right let's move on uh this next item is another one that i added that i meant to add before sunday but i forgot

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I thought it was an interesting little story about

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Nurgle from Behemoth getting kicked out of a YMCA

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for wearing a Dark Throne shirt.

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Can I just say, fuck the YMCA?

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Well, let me ask you this.

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I mean, you don't think of it this way because,

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and I don't agree with it,

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but because it's just become this kind of

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institution of sorts.

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But do you know what YMCA stands for?

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Yeah, the Young Men's Christian

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something or other.

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Yeah, I mean, I get why they did.

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I'm not defending them.

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No, but just fucking get with the times, people. Come on. Well, that's the closest I've heard of anybody associating them with Christianity anymore because you don't see it anywhere in there. You know, I swim at the water and there's a Christian. Don't wear your Dark Throne shirt. Well, and I know he's worked at other, he's worked at it otherwise because I follow him on Instagram and he's working out somewhere every morning when he's on tour and he's even been like, you know, thank, you know, tolerating the Christians for a place to work out. So I feel like this is the first time where it's actually coming.

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And maybe he wasn't wearing a dark throne shirt. Well, and not to be a dick, but wasn't this in the Midwest or something to that? It was either Michigan. I couldn't tell on the article. It seemed to indicate he was in Michigan, but then I thought it was Pennsylvania. Okay. Either one, you know. So anyway, just thought that was interesting and kind of annoying. Moving on. Migwa is releasing a new album called Age of Excuse soon. I don't know. Has anybody seen a relationship?

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I didn't see one.

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No, just I just heard the new song.

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That's it.

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Yeah.

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So, you know, looking forward to that.

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Well, didn't you like some supposed Nazi ties to that band?

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That has been a thing, but I like them enough to not judge on that yet.

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Not until there's indisputable proof.

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I doubt in Nazis sometimes.

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You know, I mean, I'll say it now, but we edited our mid-year episode because Will and I both had a band on there that turned out to be very homophobic. So we had to go back and record some new choices. And Will pointed out to me later that I fucked up because the album that he put in as his replacement, he also mentioned in his honorable mentions. And I didn't edit it out. He liked it that much. So it's an Easter egg.

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And just to clarify,

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Migla was like accused of it,

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but I don't think it was actually proven.

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I haven't seen anything new about that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There are,

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you know,

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just because somebody's accused doesn't mean they did it.

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Right.

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And I wouldn't defend them in a million years without the case,

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but it just seems like it's popping up for a lot of black metal bands,

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no matter who they are.

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I don't know if any of them are true or not,

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to be honest.

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So,

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right.

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Yeah.

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I mean,

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some very obviously are,

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but I mean,

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we know who those are.

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Yeah.

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Certainly.

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Yeah.

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As John said,

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certainly not defending anybody.

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If that's the case, then fuck them. Yeah, but it does make you want to not investigate too deeply along Georgia's line of thinking, which is just like, I heard a rumor. I don't want to read any articles. Because, I mean, I felt the same way about Destroyer 666. Yeah, and I wrote them off. I did too. But, yeah, it's just, it comes up so every other frickin' day there's somebody. And I'm like, all right, well, I am not just going to stop listening to everybody until you give me some, you know, with the band that we removed from our list, there was,

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a lyrical proof of extremely homophobic lyrics. I was like, nope, you're out of there. I gave them the benefit of doubt when I put them on the list because like it's death metal, you know, but after seeing some of the lyrics from their earlier material, I was like, nope. So anyway, moving on, there are four albums that will be coming out on October 4th that are of interest. The first one is the new Toxic

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Holocaust album Primal Future 2019. It's Joel Grind. I don't know if anybody's a fan of Toxic Holocaust, but... I like that the press release called them a whirlwind of booze, denim jackets, and rifts. I listened to the first track. It's Chemical War Likes, and it's pretty fun. Yeah, it's like that... It's sort of like Motorhead meets Municipal Waste kind of stuff. Yeah. It made me want to drink a hams and dress head-to-toe denim, for sure. Yeah.

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Yeah, and it's a nod to the 80s, and it's a pretty good nod to the 80s. I don't know how fun they are to listen to necessarily. I mean, that guy's got like the quintessential 80s kind of like early thrash voice, or maybe like roughly DRI voice type thing. But I've seen them live a couple times by accident because they've opened for other people. They're a lot of fun to watch.

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The next album coming out is from Exhumed, and they're going to release a new album called Horror.

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And their last album, Death... What the hell was that? Ah, Death. It's a weird... It's that one with the 80s... Yeah, it's like the movie theater poster. Death something. Honestly, I can't remember the name, but I fucking loved it. It was on my list. It's called Death Revenge. Death Revenge, yeah. Oh, there you go. Well, I keep looking at the album cover, the new album cover, and I keep trying to figure out what's going on in that. I can't decide if it's a chainsaw that's clogged with guts, or if it's a chainsaw

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that's actually powered by guts. And I also, how is the surgeon tearing through a cloud with a chainsaw? I don't know. I don't know. Listen to the album and find out. It's cool because Relapse is offering a creative pre-order for it where they have this horror deluxe VCR slaughter video pack. So you get an LP and a playable VHS and a slip case. You get a sticker sheet and like a laminated membership card and a shirt.

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And it comes in a VCR-inspired box. So I thought that was pretty creative, actually. Nice. You know, that's super cool, dude. And if you'll, if that's, this must be a love of theirs, obviously. Because if you look at the Death Revenge, that cover has creases where, as if it were a poster, as if it were an 80s movie poster. And then, and then coolly, I bought the vinyl on it, and it actually came with the poster, which was super cool. So, well, that's cool that they're kind of keeping with that theme. Yeah. Yeah. And the third album coming out on October 4th,

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is very much anticipated by pretty much everybody on this podcast.

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And that is gate creeper.

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And the album is called deserted.

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And based on the first track that is available for streaming,

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holy shit.

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There's a second track out there.

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Oh,

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is there second track?

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This is good.

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I need to hear that.

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It's,

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it's actually,

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I think it came out before the album was announced,

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but it's a bonus track and anxiety.

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Oh,

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right.

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You mentioned that.

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I haven't heard that yet.

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Yeah, it's on YouTube. Can I point out a little play on words here, too? Because what was the first one called? Sonoran what? Deprivation, I believe. And Sonoran is an area in Mexico, but it's also the Sonoran Desert, which is where they're from down there. And so I like to play on the word desert here. Deserted, you know what I mean? That's the desert theme. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that one was on my most anticipated albums for the second half of 2019 on the cast we did recently.

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Yes, yes. And yeah, I expect this to be a contender for best death metal album, but we have a lot of strong contenders this year with two mold crips, cerebral rot, which we'll talk about, I'm sure. There's a lot of really good death metal bands this year. Indeed. All right, moving on. I just heard that Mayhem is also going to be releasing a new album called Damon on October 25th. I'm a little more death than black these days, but I'm always going to be paying attention to

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a new Mayhem album. So we'll see what happens with that. Yeah. Did you guys like the last album? I thought it was a pretty good. Yeah. It was that esoteric something or esoteric warfare or something I got. Yeah. Yeah. That was a good, that's a great album. Yeah. I would agree. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We're all excited. Yay. Real good. Real good. So, uh, Oh yeah. Real good. All around. Real good. So Keith, he's asleep over there. I know. Wake up Keith. Come on.

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He's saving up his energy for the top five, I think. Hey, Keith, if you've been in that room for the past four days, do you need to go to the bathroom or anything? I have been. What do you think coffee can't pour? May I go to the bathroom? Thank you. She has a colostomy bag in the shape of a raven. Yeah, you can't see what it's actually like in here. That's why the lights are off. And thank God we can't smell it.

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So John Zazula of Megaforce and Metallica Anthrax fame is releasing a memoir called Heavy Tales on October 29th. I think I'll probably have it to check that one out. Yeah, I'm going to read it. We both read Brian Slaggles. You were there, didn't you? Yep. And, you know, I mean, we should play a game, by the way, sometime in which we name old bands or albums and we all,

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and the other people have to guess Megaforce Combat or Metal Blade. Nice. I love those labels, particularly Combat, man. They used to buy stuff just based on it being on Combat. This should be pretty cool. He did a call out on his Facebook page, like anybody who's got old photos of the bands back in the days and of me with the bands and stuff. And I'm sure he's got a bunch of archival stuff himself. And that was back when he started putting this together. So if nothing else, it's a lot of fun stuff to look at in there.

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Yeah. Well, he has an interesting story. It's pretty crazy because he worked on Wall Street, I think, and then he suddenly transitions to the metal music business. So that's really cool. I'm curious to know what he thinks about music all these years and about his life. Well, and I think it'll be interesting, too, to hear. I mean, you know, him and Brian Slagle, like one of the reasons they ended up making the amounts of money they did was because they had partial ownership in those very, very successful Metallica records.

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the early ones, let alone some of the other stuff that they did that was successful. Anthrax, too, he made a lot of money off of. But it'll be interesting to hear a story. I had the good fortune to meet him, you guys may remember, a year or two ago. It was at a show here in the Bay Area. I can't remember who it was. I think it was an Exodus show. And he came to the show with his wife. They're both in terrible fucking shape. They can hardly walk. Well, that's sad, Jay. And that's the end of the story. That was not a high point to end on. It was like dead silence. And that's it. They'll probably be dead soon. Anyway.

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All right, moving on then. They were lovely and they both took a photo with me and were very kind to me. Okay. They went well with their kids. So this last news item is mostly for Will, who is still not here. Will, come home. Come back. Are you in the upside down? Yeah. Also known as the 69.

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Anyway, Immolation is working on a new album for release next year. More death metal for Will. Yay! I can speak for him. I love Immolation, actually. Atonement, this is before I met you guys, was my 2017 album of the year, so I have high expectations. All right. Well, we'll be looking for that on your list next year. Yeah. All right, let's move on to new releases.

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First new release is the band Cerebral Rot, who was just mentioned, Odious Descent Into Decay. This is their first album, and they are a Seattle death metal band. Markisan, go. Well, I was floored by this. I didn't know what to expect from it, and I really like this album a lot. So, yeah, it's their first album. I don't know much about them. I agree.

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I agree that it's it's in that same like tomb moldy kind of vein of death metal when we talk about death metal I always like yeah I always like bands that put a little extra into it to try to afford that particular genre and I feel like cerebral rots in that category and yeah they're a strong contender for me for you know best death metal but also maybe for the list at the end of the year really good all right absolute confession I'm downloading it now that's a pretty good sales pitch

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I haven't listened to it so we'll see if I agree and I'm sure I'll be close to agreeing okay next up is the new destruction album born to perish this is their 16th album they're of course German thrash part of the uh Teutonic terrors of the 80s and uh to be perfectly honest though I've never been a huge destruction fan I did give it a listen I thought it was you know it was all right yeah I agree yeah I was a fan but I was a fan back when they were fucking good

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No, that would be like their first three records. They had Sentence of Death, which was their first EP. It's just clangy, thrashy mess of a great EP. And then they had one called Eternal Devastation, which is a more focused thrash. And then one or two after that. And then this, I don't even know what this is. This is more like, it's more like somebody explained Heavy Metal to them and they'd never heard it. And they said, okay, we'll try to do that. And then they just, it's just not. Well, I would not be surprised if we saw them at Vakan next year.

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Yeah, as in, they are already on the thing, aren't they? Oh, are they? I think so, yeah. Well, that's why I wouldn't be surprised. Already on it. I didn't, I didn't, I thought it was fine. I didn't hate it or anything like that, but I'm not a huge thrash fan to begin with, and I already got the best thrash album this year in Critical Defiance, so it's going to be hard to compare anything of that for me. Yeah, well, I'll definitely see them at Valken if I can, because I've never seen them in, you know, bucket list kind of thing, you know, so.

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Absolutely. All right. And they don't ever come here. So it's going to have to be over there. I mean, that's my knowledge. They don't come here. I'm still crossing my fingers for running wild, but I think I pulled the trigger a year too early. I think that'll be next year for running wild. My fingers are still cross, George. But if I'm not mistaken, Sodom is playing. Yeah. Yeah. Agent Orange. Agent Orange. That's pretty crazy, dude, actually, because they don't ever come here. Literally. Yeah. I want to see that. All right. Next up, we have Devourment. Obscene Magical.

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Majesty, his sixth album of Dallas, brutal death metal. I've been hearing some things around the podcast about this one. I think it's lovely. It's lovely. Oh, yeah. Holy fuck. This album's heavier than Thor's hammer. It's great. I really like it. All right. Well, next up is one that I like a lot, and that is the new Lord Gore album, Scalpels for Blind Surgeons. This is their third album. It's their first album in 15 years.

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years. They're a Portland, Oregon, death grind band. Keith, Keith, grind. I said, I said the magic word there, right? You can check that out. Yeah. That's a, I like it. It's pretty cool. Magic word is please, George. Hello. Did you grow up in a barn? I thought it was abracadabra. Yeah. Did you grow up in an abattoir? I thought it was beer. Oh, okay. That's the new magic word. This sounds good. I thought it had the music's pretty varied. I feel like the vocal

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sound like somebody continually choking on a mouthful of blood in a good way. In a good way. Yeah, in a good way, of course. It's really solid album. I'm definitely going to revisit it because I feel like there's a lot going on in it. And I think they just reissued the first two albums as like a combined like mega album on Bandcamp, which I'm toying with purchasing. Which because I was waiting for this to officially come out. We had the promo and I was like, I want the flock. And so while I was waiting, I checked.

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out the earlier stuff and I said it's pretty good too for being 15 years old. So you sounded like that Affleck duck. All right next up is a band called Sacrilege they're an old UK new wave of British heavy metal band releasing their seventh album the Court of the Insane. I know that band by name but I'd never listened to them before this. Me either but you gotta you gotta love those new wave of British heavy metal.

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Titles, the court of the insane. I mean, you could have guessed that was the Wabum or whatever it is. Yeah. Yeah. Before you even told us that it's called the court of the insane. And I gave it a listen. I thought it was pretty good, actually. Okay. So, I mean, you know, it's not like album of the year and it's, it's perhaps not that contemporary, but it was pretty good. I liked it. Yeah. I wasn't sure when I first started spinning this thing, but the album grew on me. The lyrics are terrible, but the music is really fun. And there's some blistering solos.

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on that thing. So I don't know. It's fun. So I like nice fun albums sometimes, especially in the summer. Yes. And our last new release, the new album from Sorcery Necessary Excess of Violence. This is the fourth album from a Swedish death metal band. I was cranking this one a lot today. Me likey. It's good stuff. It's catchy. Yeah. Catchy death. It reminded me a little bit of.

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Entombed, which is not surprising given it's Swedish. Like some of the vocals were just sort of like LG Petrovish. So. Anywho. All right.

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We made a list and we all made a list and we're gonna tell you all

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about it right now

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Let's have some fun

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This is gonna be brutal

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Let's wake up Keith

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So I asked Keith what he wanted to do for a top five list

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and when then he told me and then I fucking butchered it

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and made it into something

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an abomination

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So

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what he wanted was a made up super group lineup

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of living musicians

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And I said, okay, we'll do five of those. And pretty much. You're responsible for this then. Yeah. He came up with the idea. I'm the one that misconstrued it and said, well, we need to do five of them then. So everybody has to do five super group made up bands instead of just one. And then we're going to do an honorable mention zombie band made up entirely of people who are no longer with us. Which actually could have just been our number one because that's my best band.

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Yeah, well, of course. Yeah, because not all the good guys are dead, but a lot of good guys are dead. Was the zombie band supposed to be an addition to five? So for six total? Yes. Oh, crap. I thought it was a total of five, so I'm going to come up with one right now. I still can't get it right. I did not explain it very well. No, no, no. Well, in any case, you got a lot of time, Keith, because it's going to take a while to get through these. But you're up first.

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No, he is, but then he's got, what, 20 minutes? Yeah, yeah. So, and we're also, not a requirement, but an option was to name said band. So, who named all of it? Did everybody? I named all of mine. I did. I did. Of course, you have to. That was the best part? Yeah. My names are really stupid, though. Mine are, too. Pretty, very stupid, in fact. Mine are all called Chopping Mall.

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So as well, do we want to start with Keith or do we want to give him, do we want to make him last like we did last time so that he can work on something? I feel like he should start because it was his idea. Fair enough. Screw him. He's going to start. Okay. I was going to suggest I go last, but all right. Well, no, you can go last then. Okay. All right. So here's my first fantasy super group that I made up. So I've got Barney Greenway from Napalm Death on vocals.

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Ryan Waste from Municipal Waste on guitar. Jeff Walker from Carcass on bass. Nice. And Igor Cavalera from Sepultura on drums. The genre, I guess, would be like a really thrashy grind sort of thing. And the band is called Magical Canyon of Wolf Blood Reservoir. Wow. That's like a Marcasson kind of name. Sounds like a great beer. Sounds very sustainable.

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All right, man. Wow. That's cool. I'm trying to picture that now. That's the thing with these bands. You want to kind of picture what would it sound like? The gauntlet has been thrown down, Marcus. Okay, so I did for my, I guess, number five, a heavy progressive death metal band on drums. Keith mentioned him already. Danny Carey from Tool. On bass, I have Flea from the Red

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Hot Chili Peppers. On guitar, Trey Azikthoth from Morbid Angel. Also on guitar, Bill Steer from Carcass. And on vocals and guitar, Mikhail Ackerfeldt from Opeth. Dude, well done. Nice. Truly, because Trey is such a weird and creative guitar player. And so it's, I mean, like, really, like, I would say those, you name two of the standout guys who don't really fit in kind of a weird thrashy mold. They're more,

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I don't know what those guys are doing. They both do weird shit, you know? Yeah, I'm really happy. And Danny Carey is really creative on tools. It's going to be a really interesting, progressive, but heavy band. It should be very heavy, too. Good call. I look forward to their album. Oh, and their name? Collapsing Spine. Nice. All right, Matt. My number five. George, this is for you. It is the members of the band,

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Pelican. But with a singer. And because I'm so high on body count right now, that singer is iced tea. And this band is called Pelican. That's Pelican with a T. And that T is ice. And that would be called post-hip-hop is the genre. All right. John.

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This is really weird, Matt, because my number five band is self-discipline. You're never going to believe that this happened. Yeah. Wow. This one time. Ice-T, too. Wow. None of my bands make any sense whatsoever. If there was one that would, it'd be this one. I told George, he said we had to come up with like 8,000 band members for this. I was like, well, I'm just going to make them all three pieces to make it easy for myself. And I didn't do that, but I have one.

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It's my insane instrumental progressive fusion metal band. On drums, Virgil Donati. Guys have heard me talk about it, but you probably don't know who he is. He's played with a ton of my bands that I listen to. On bass, Sean Malone from Cynic. And on guitar, John Paggiucci from Dream Theater. They are called Technical Absurdity. Beautiful. Nice, John. And Jay. So I went a little more classic with mine, mostly just because there are musicians like, wow.

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I admire a lot of musicians but it was hard for me to put together a death or a thrash band or something but now that I hear Markisan especially I feel like I might have dropped the ball on that because that was well done but my number five is Richie Blackmore on guitar obviously Steve Harris on bass Ian Pace from Deep Purple on drums embrace yourself Eric Adams of Manowar on lead vocals yeah I did not consider that one of the great great metal singers of all time and you know granted he got caught in a sea of cheese

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or whatever, but the name of this band is Men of War. Especially since Rich is such a dick and fights with everybody. That he is. All right. My number five is a proggish metal band. And on drums, Hannes Grossman. On bass, Steve DiGiorgio. Good choice. On guitars, Devin Townsend.

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And on vocals, John Arch. Wow. Boy, it was hard for me not to get John Arch in one of mine. What's the name of this band, George? Prog nipples. Prog nipples? It's a Devin joke. We've all got them. George is all about the nipples tonight. He's got diamond nipples, he's got prog nipples, nipple blades. I'm a nipples fan. That's just tonight, Marcus. Put away your glassware.

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All right, we are back to Keith. Are you ready? All right, yeah. Here's my next fantasy supergroup. Okay, so this one is going to have on lead vocals, Messiah Marklin from Candlemas. Keep talking. On guitar, I'm going to have one of my personal guitar heroes, King Buzzo from the Melvins. On drums, Donald Tardy from Obituary. Yes. On bass, then, will be...

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myself, Keith D from Arctic Fleet.

01:27:36.320 --> 01:27:36.720
Yeah, dude.

01:27:37.300 --> 01:27:38.020
Just your voice.

01:27:38.420 --> 01:27:38.700
That's fair.

01:27:38.900 --> 01:27:40.620
I want to play in that band.

01:27:40.900 --> 01:27:46.040
I guess the genre would be kind of like a really heavy traditional doom metal,

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and the band would be called Cerebral Vortex of Poisonous Mold.

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Wow.

01:27:52.700 --> 01:27:53.020
Nice.

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All right.

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I'm trying to picture the name of the band.

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Okay.

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All right.

01:28:02.220 --> 01:28:05.060
I'm sure actually what this band would be but

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on the rhythm section

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I've got Dave Grohl from Nirvana

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Geddy Lee

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from Rush

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on guitar Tom Morello

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from Rage Against the Machine

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on lead guitar

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John Petrucci from Dream Theater

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and then my vocalist

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is Nick Van Geersbergen

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from The Gathering

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and I call this band Blood Moan

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I'd say damn good money to see that. I want to see Petrucci

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and Morello to get. I just think that'd be cool because Morello, he always does guitars by himself. But what if somebody else came in

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and did leads? It's so interesting to me. I don't know what it would sound like, but I want to know it.

01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:52.660
I went that route on one of mine, too. I put some people with people who've never been with

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another guitar player. I like that call.

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Yeah. Blood Moan.

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All right. Full Blood Moan.

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All right, my number four, I have two vocalists. The first is Mike Batten. The second is Devin Townsend. He is also playing guitar on some songs. We haven't figured out which. Next on guitar would be Steve Vai. And yes, this is from my childhood, right? Reuniting, the sex and religion lineup. Also on guitar, Bill Steer of Carcass. Yes. On bass, Les Claypool. And on drums, Dave Lombardo.

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The name of this band is Mike Patton's Strapping and Lad AD. I think that would sound really cool. It'd be all over the place, like insane. Nice. All right, so my number four band, I'm going to kind of do it reverse and give the name sort of early on, and you'll see why. This is a retirement rock band. The only criteria for this band is everybody has to be at least 60,

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I hope the name is geriatric.

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Well, it is now.

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Jay will appreciate the way I start this. On vocals, but in his prime, Ian Anderson from Jethro Tull.

01:30:17.760 --> 01:30:22.340
Can I just say that we are all choosing people in their prime? Can we agree on that?

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Well, in his case, yes.

01:30:24.390 --> 01:30:24.520
Yes.

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On bass guitar, formerly of Van Halen, Michael Anthony. Oh, shit. He needs a nod. I like that. On guitar from the 80s era of Yes, Trevor Rabin. And on drums from Rush, Neil Peart. The band's name is Anderson, Anthony, Rabin, and Peart. Or short for A-A-R-P. Well done. And I happen to know also a nice play on the many Yes projects, one of which was Anderson.

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and Burford, Wakeman, and Howe. So they were into the last names. So well done, John. Yes. P-A-R-P. None of mine are that creative. Jay? Mine is, I want to do at least one power trio, if you will. And this band consists of Neil Pert on drums. Probably going to hear his name a lot, I guess. Glenn Hughes on bass and vocals. Glenn Hughes has an amazing voice, and he's actually a great bass player.

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And then throwing the weirdness in the mix, Brent Hines on guitar. And I call this band One Hit Wonder because they'd last about a week before they killed each other, I'm sure of it. With a mild exception of Neil Perg. I mean, Neil's, I think, pretty low key, but those other two got egos a mile wide, so it would not last. But they'd put out one great record, and that'd be the end of it. Awesome. Again, I'm just trying to reflect on these bands, what they would sound like. Well, Brent does a lot of weird soupy shit, you know what I mean? Like, he's a really weird guitar player,

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I think it'd be fun to see him out there by himself. So to speak, it's not another guitar player. Right. Georgie Boyd. My number four probably should have been my number five. Now that I'm looking at it, I actually like probably my number five band better than my number four band. But be that as it may, this is my pseudo Viking folk band. And we've got on guitars, Johnny Hedlund from Unleashed, Stefan Viner Hall from Falconer.

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On bass, ICS Vortex from every band ever. But particularly Demu and Borknagar. On drums, a guy named Misha from Adorned Brood, a German Viking metal band that I fucking love. And they really need to put out a new album. So if you're listening, which you better be, put out a new damn album. And on vocals, the mighty, roaring Viking himself, Johann Hegg of Amanomarth.

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Who was the Falconer guy? Stefan? Viner? Z broke up. They're just gone, gone, gone. Yeah. Didn't they do a farewell tour thing at Prog Power or something, John? Yes, they did. I watched three songs and then I went and did something else. God damn it. All right. So I wasn't sure what to call this band. So I asked my friend Z because she's a big Monomarth fan, or at least she was.

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She gave me the wonderful

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The Vagina Valkyries.

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All right.

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Back to Keith for number three.

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All right.

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My number three fantasy super group.

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I'm going to combine my love of 80s hair metal

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and my love of Prague.

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So on this one, on vocals,

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I'm going to have Sebastian Bach from Skid Row.

01:33:53.620 --> 01:33:54.180
Nice.

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A fine singer, by the way.

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A very good singer.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I think he's one of the best of that whole genre. And on guitar, I'm going to have Nuno Betancourt from Xtreme. Yes. Finally, somebody recognizes he can play. Oh, I know. He's one of my favorite guitar players. Oh, yeah. And on bass, here's another mention for Geddy Lee from Rush. And then I'm going to round things out on drums with Mike Portnoy from the original Dream Theater lineup. So yeah, progressive,

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I feel like he's on something because there's a huge nostalgia run and everything these days so why not bring back hair metal but make it a little bit more than it was yeah all right I guess my turn

01:34:58.600 --> 01:35:27.500
So this is a death metal band that I created with my friend Nate Madden of Immortal Bird. So I met him a few weeks ago and we've been drinking like every week. And so I'm like, listen, I have this cast. We're doing these fantasy bands. Do you want to create one with me? And he's like, absolutely. I want to do that. So we were hammered and we created this little death metal band. So on drums, we've got Derek One Take Roddy from Malevolent Creation, Hate Eternal, and

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On bass, Les Claypool from Primus. On rhythm guitar, Carl Sanders from Nile. On lead guitar, Yngwie Malmsteen. Frank Molle, formerly of Suffocation. And we call this Body Slicer. You guys were definitely drunk.

01:35:58.560 --> 01:36:04.500
Yeah, anyone who knows anything about that band knows that it's Gangway Malmsteen's Body Slicer.

01:36:10.360 --> 01:36:11.600
All right, Matt.

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Right on, my number three, vocals and guitar, Tom G. Warrior.

01:36:18.300 --> 01:36:18.700
Oh, yeah.

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Backup vocals and guitar, Nurgle.

01:36:22.060 --> 01:36:24.220
More guitar, Tony Iommi.

01:36:25.240 --> 01:36:55.200
on bass is jeff walker and on drums is nick barker and this band is called hell hammered nice well cool i just i was just realizing that i don't have tony iomi anywhere on this list i don't fail fail you warrior he showed up yeah i thought i might he's not on mine either george but i did i reached into black sabbath in a couple places but

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So when I say this, I mean this in all honesty and sincerity. You're going to have a hard time believing this, but I matched somebody on a band. Not you. So on drums, Hannes Grossman. On bass, Steve DiGiorgio. On second guitar, Paul Mastavall from Cynic, also played on the album Human.

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for death.

01:37:27.640 --> 01:37:28.900
And on guitar and vocals,

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Devin Townsend.

01:37:31.160 --> 01:37:33.020
We have just Devin Townsend,

01:37:33.260 --> 01:37:34.180
Devin Townsend band,

01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:35.460
Devin Townsend project.

01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:37.340
This is going to be Devin Townsend and friends.

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All right.

01:37:43.100 --> 01:37:44.540
Human is my favorite album,

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by the way.

01:37:45.780 --> 01:37:46.400
So is mine.

01:37:46.820 --> 01:37:46.920
Well,

01:37:47.080 --> 01:37:47.180
you know,

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that's good.

01:37:48.880 --> 01:37:49.080
You know,

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we mentioned this everyone's,

01:37:50.120 --> 01:37:51.140
what's everybody's favorite death album?

01:37:51.140 --> 01:37:52.040
And I always answer different.

01:37:52.220 --> 01:37:53.240
I've decided mine is symbolic.

01:37:53.860 --> 01:37:55.020
That's been mine for a while,

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But I've been thinking about changing that up. It goes back and forth. Yeah. All right. I'm sticking with. Go ahead. No. I was going to say my last time was I was really going between spiritual healing and infinite thought patterns. Actually, last time, I think George and I both chose Scream Bloody Gore, but that's how all over the map we get. Yeah. I like how we just have different choices. Although John and I are correct. Just to be clear.

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I mean, if that wasn't their best album, it would be. Great answers all around. I'm sticking with the old guys because it's something I do, and these are musicians I all love dearly, but I'm going to build it up from the bottom. I think John will appreciate this. Martin Lopez on drums is really one of my favorite drummers, and I would just like to see him doing something different and more than what he's doing now. But let's put Geddy Lee on top of him playing bass. How many bands is that guy in?

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All of them, I think. And then we're going to get weird, because now we're looking at two guys who are used to playing alone, but both used to play the same band years ago, Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck. And they both played in the Yardbirds at different times. And finally, I have fronting this band, maybe playing a little guitar, but singing a personal love of mine. Everybody should appreciate this person as much as I do. Magnus Palander from Witchcraft is an amazing singer. He would fit right in with these guys, and they're

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approach to things.

01:39:26.680 --> 01:39:28.140
And the name of the band is the dead birds.

01:39:29.620 --> 01:39:30.220
Very nice.

01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:31.740
Yard birds slash.

01:39:31.960 --> 01:39:32.800
Like that one.

01:39:34.640 --> 01:39:34.880
Nice.

01:39:35.200 --> 01:39:35.480
All right.

01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:36.440
I'm not sure who plays lead,

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but I guess it'd be Jeff Beck.

01:39:38.360 --> 01:39:38.620
Probably.

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All right.

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My number three is my death metal band on guitars.

01:39:46.240 --> 01:39:49.600
We have James Murphy and Trey as a,

01:39:49.860 --> 01:39:52.560
as a golf who I can never,

01:39:52.840 --> 01:39:53.640
I've never said his name,

01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:53.780
right.

01:39:53.880 --> 01:40:23.300
I'm not going to start now. I don't think I did either. It's Azikoth. I think that's it. I think you got it actually. Azikoth. I don't know. Azikoth? I think it's Azikoth. Really? Did I leave a T out of there? There's a T in there, but that's what makes it weird, George. Okay. Well, anyway, on bass, Shane Embry of Napalm Death, among other things. Many other things. On drums, Nick Barker, the man, the legend. And on vocals,

01:40:26.220 --> 01:40:53.700
It's nice that, uh, that, uh, can you go over the list again real quick, George? Oh, no, the NAPAM, a couple people have represented NAPAM Death here. And the band name is Death Becomes Us. Nice. Lovely. Nice. Nice. All right, back to Keith for number two. Number two, fantasy supergroup. I'm going to get weird on this one. So, uh, on drums,

01:40:53.900 --> 01:41:23.840
I'm going to have Vijesh, who is the newest drummer for Wormrot. Nice! On guitar, I'm going to have Kuzuha from Self Deconstruction. She's a really good guitar player, and also check that band out, because they are amazing. And on bass, I'm going to have Kanako, who is the bass player from Flagidious Idiosyncrasy in the Dilemma.

01:41:25.020 --> 01:41:53.240
So you got two Japanese grindcore bands represented there. And then on vocals, the curator from Portal. Oh, nice. Yeah. So I've got, you know, Eastern grindcore represented and then the curator from Portal on vocals. And he's going to have the clock head. I want the curator from when he had that cuckoo clock on his head.

01:41:53.300 --> 01:42:23.100
Wow. Cause I really like that. I can't wait to hear the name of this band. So, uh, the, the genre is obviously going to be like really noisy grind core and the band is going to be called bucket full of smashed crabs. Well, I would like to hear that. And I'm definitely going to check out those grind core bands you mentioned. Cause I don't know them. Oh, they're good. I'll check it out. All right. Mark is on. All right. My number two. So,

01:42:23.300 --> 01:42:23.860
So on drums,

01:42:24.650 --> 01:42:25.400
it's been mentioned.

01:42:26.020 --> 01:42:26.640
He's going to be busy.

01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:28.340
He's going to have severe arthritis.

01:42:28.880 --> 01:42:30.380
Neil Peart from Rush.

01:42:31.280 --> 01:42:31.760
On bass,

01:42:32.540 --> 01:42:33.880
Steve Harris of Iron Maiden.

01:42:35.080 --> 01:42:36.520
On guitar and vocals,

01:42:36.860 --> 01:42:39.160
this is where I'm putting in Tom G.

01:42:39.460 --> 01:42:39.560
Warrior,

01:42:40.220 --> 01:42:40.720
Celtic Frost,

01:42:40.840 --> 01:42:41.500
and Tripicon.

01:42:42.400 --> 01:42:43.360
On lead guitar,

01:42:44.500 --> 01:42:46.460
Jim Theos from Fates Morning.

01:42:46.600 --> 01:42:46.900
Nice.

01:42:47.860 --> 01:42:49.700
And vocalist is going to be

01:42:50.580 --> 01:42:51.640
Maynard James Keenan.

01:42:52.340 --> 01:42:52.600
Wow.

01:42:53.580 --> 01:42:56.960
And I call this band unspecified damage.

01:42:58.320 --> 01:42:59.080
All right.

01:43:00.410 --> 01:43:02.640
Some of these could actually be real good names.

01:43:03.380 --> 01:43:05.060
I correct myself.

01:43:05.280 --> 01:43:06.420
They're all really good names.

01:43:07.880 --> 01:43:09.520
I'm going to save some of these comics.

01:43:09.810 --> 01:43:11.440
I might use them for comic names.

01:43:11.620 --> 01:43:11.800
Yeah.

01:43:12.140 --> 01:43:13.460
In the next comic book I write.

01:43:13.570 --> 01:43:15.740
So that heavy metal comic book you're working on.

01:43:17.320 --> 01:43:17.700
Yeah.

01:43:17.700 --> 01:43:22.240
I have a comic we're doing now called By the Horns, which is also a really good name.

01:43:22.260 --> 01:43:52.220
Awesome. Sweet. Are we going to be characters? I didn't think about that, but I haven't gotten that far because we're doing like the pitch for it, but we did a map of the world and all of the places on the map are named after metal bands. You know, it's funny because, sorry to completely derail you and go on a tangent here, but when I was a young lad, I was very much into Dungeons and Dragons, go figure. And I really liked

01:43:52.280 --> 01:44:22.220
making maps drawing dungeon maps and i drew this my dad got this like giant roll of like graph paper and i laid it out on a table and i made this giant world map and all the i was old enough that i was into metal by this point as well and everything is like ozzy town and you know it's all it's all either metal or lord of the rings or uh

01:44:22.760 --> 01:44:52.220
Yeah, there was literally something called Aussie Town. But what's funny is that I remember doing this, you know, a million years ago and no idea what became of it. And my brother's fiance recently uncovered this thing and framed it. Oh, shit. Because she thought it was so cool. I was like, oh, that's so terrible. I love Dungeons & Dragons when I was little. I would do those puzzles that they would have and I would laminate them and put them up as posters. But this book is going to be

01:44:52.860 --> 01:45:21.920
It's like a cross between Final Fantasy and The Last Unicorn. So if you can imagine that. Well, Keith, I write comics, so you probably realize that. I checked them out, actually. Oh, wow. Jeez. Thank you. Cool. All right. Are we on the mat now? Sweet. My number two, kind of a death thrash hybrid tribute on vocals, Corpse Grindr. On bass.

01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:52.020
Okay, yeah. So bass and vocals, Tom Araya. Guitar, Alex Skolnick. Other guitar, Scott Ian. An additional bass, Dos Basses, Steve DiGiorgio. And on drums, Gene Hoagland. This band is called Murder in the Last Row. Awesome. Kudos for having a two bass band, too. But why not the front row?

01:45:55.880 --> 01:46:20.980
As you're banging your head against the stage. Has anybody seen that yet? No. No, but it is getting ready to play in Oakland again at a place, and I intended to buy tickets, so I hope to see it soon. Sweet. Yeah, I mean, and it's actually listed as a playing time of three hours, so I'm hoping a bunch of the musicians are going to be there, because it's like at a bar. Sweet. That's cool. That's a good one, Matt. Thank you.

01:46:22.240 --> 01:46:51.840
My number two is a super jam session hard rock and metal band. And this is literally just a potluck of musicians. You could throw darts and come up with this band. So on drums, Bobby Jarzombek from Fates Morning and Sebastian Bach. I originally had slated Geddy Lee in, but apparently I had to kick him out of the band already because too many people have him playing. Which is not true, actually. He wasn't selected.

01:46:51.880 --> 01:47:20.480
But my bass is Steve Harris from Iron Maiden. I have two guitarists. Jerry Cantrell from Alice in Chains to be completely contrasted by Joe Satriani. And on vocals, Rob Halford. This band is called Irrational Coalition. Nice. Nice. Wow. I really like that Jerry Cantrell because he's the lead songwriter for Alice in Chains. That's interesting. Nice pull. I'm a big 90s rock guy.

01:47:20.540 --> 01:47:50.420
So, very cool. Yeah. All right. Jay. My number two, and I'm most excited about my number one and my dead guys, but this one I'm into too. Just the last before the best. Playing drums, Nico McBrain. Wonderful drummer. Playing bass on top of him, John Paul Jones. Singing, Ian Gillen. And playing guitar, Michael Schenker. The name of this band is Black Knight.

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After the Deep Purple song. Cool. That works. Indeed. No more comments on that. I can't wait for the other ones. And Jay, that's probably the closest band that could actually happen. That sounds like that band already existed, actually. I know. I know. And a lot of mine are like that, to be honest with you. I should have felt like, well, wait, he was in Deep Purple and then he was in Rainbow. Okay, fine. So it is what it is. Some of them only passed on the night, though. Yes. All right. My number two is my black metal band.

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We have Samoth from Emperor, Ivar from Enslaved. On bass, we have Necrobutcher from Mayhem. On drums, Frost from Satyricon. And on vocals, the legendary man himself from the North, Joel Violetta. And the name of this band is, Woohoo, I'm in a Burning Black Forest.

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Oh, that's awesome. All right. And you have to say it like that. Yes. Yeah. Well, see, the joke is... There'll be exclamation points in there. Joel is a friend from Thrasenblatt, is a friend of the podcast. And in one of his previous appearances here, somebody, I don't even know who came up with the phrase, woohoo, I'm in the forest. It reminds me of Godspeed, you black emperor. Yeah.

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Yeah, I'll buy that. Yeah. He did, George. Actually, George came up with that. All right. Yeah. Remember, he's like, yeah, I'm walking to the forest. Fuck yeah, it's awesome. Yeah. And so that's sort of been a recurring thing to say on the podcast. And I just sort of tweaked that a little. So. All right, Keith, back to you for number one. Okay, so here we go. So this is the one that I made up just now. And I apologize in advance that it's a little bit crazy.

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So on drums, I've got Stephen Adler from the original Guns and O'Cristers lineup. And you know how you were saying it's everybody at their prime? I want this to be everybody at their not prime. Stephen Adler now. Like at their worst. Okay. And then on bass, I've also got Michael Anthony from Van Halen, but he has to be really drunk.

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And then on guitar and vocals, to round out this power trio, I'm going to have Lil Wayne. I was waiting for him. I assume he doesn't know how to play the guitar, which makes it even better. Exactly. I don't know, just use your imagination to think of what that would sound like, I guess, and the band would be called Trainwreck.

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Kingfake could have probably squeezed in there too. Oh. All right. Mark us on. All right. This is my number one. I think this is probably my favorite one. I thought my zombie group was going to be my favorite, but this one, I think it's my favorite. So this is an epic doom metal band. And on drums, he's made an appearance before. One of John's favorites, Hannes Grossman. Yes. Made Eternal currently. On bass.

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Leaf Idling from Candlemas.

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Nice.

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I can serve as the main songwriter in that band.

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On guitar and keyboards.

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I don't even know how to pronounce this.

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Jarno Saloma from Shape of Despair.

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Cool.

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On lead guitar, Gregor McIntosh from Paradise Lost.

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Nice.

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Nice.

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And I have three more in this thing.

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On vocals.

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This is one of my favorite things.

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PJ Harvey. Wow. On violin, Hillary Hahn, who is a world-renowned violinist, and she also wrote the score for M. Night Shyamalan's The Village, which was for an Oscar. And then I'm going to have a guest vocalist on the first album, Patrick Walker from Warning. Oh, wow. I don't think he's just a guest vocalist. That's awesome. Get me out of this one, man.

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All right. I love Peach. She would be amazing in a doom metal band. This band has a name. Oh, the name of the band is Narrow is the Night. Nice. Cool. Cool. Yeah, very cool. Top that, Matt. I think that would actually be good. Awesome. That's my favorite. I think it would just be kick-ass. Yeah, my number one was fucked, but that was really good. All right.

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One on vocals King Diamond backing vocals and guitar Eson also on guitar Trey from Morbid Angel what was that last name again last name Trey Trey is a goth on bass Kittle from enslaved and probably doing some backing vocals on drums Frost and on keyboard Alexi Munter formerly

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of Swallowed the Sun. Nice. It's only been one episode since we heard him, Matt. That's true. Oh, the name is Deaf Hell. Deaf Hell? Yep. Matt, you got great names. Thank you. You got great names. Johnny Boy. You guys know the movie Boogie Nights, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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an emphasis in that when movies and remember when they come up with brock landers and the other guy and chess rockwell yeah just right guys got names yeah it's uh his name's brock landers and his partner is chess rockwell and um burt reynolds just looks at him he goes those are great names i just love how he says it all right so for my number one i just basically decided to go with my favorite musicians you know people i like the most so i do have a repeat on here on

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Drums, Neil Peart, on bass John Meung from Dream Theater, keyboards Derek Sherinian, formerly of Dream Theater, Planet X, Kiss, Alice Cooper, a million bands on guitar, and some vocals, because he's good, but he's not as good as my vocalist, Michael Akerfeld, and on vocals the angelic voice of Annika Van Giersbergen.

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And that would sound amazing. Yeah. Anything she sings on sounds amazing. That's why she's in one of my bands, too. That's awesome. I'm glad somebody else chose her. And yes, and the band's name is Oral Ecstasy. That's A-U-R-A-L for all you who thought it was. Not for mine. Or deep. You know. Hey, John, what do you think of the band Ver that she's in now? It's good.

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I like to see what they do at their next album. I agree. They're cool. Yeah. We saw them, didn't we, George? Yes, we did. Yeah, we saw them at Brock Power. They were cool. Oh, cool. Okay. It's me, and I did a Doom band as well. Feel kind of proud of this one. Nobody else started here, so they should have considered it Bill Ward on drums. Now dig this. Dylan Desmond,

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from Blair Witch on bass. Guy does some weird shit on fucking bass, man. Nice. Or Bell Witch. I was going to say Blair Witch. I don't know that bad. Sorry about that. Excuse me. Dylan Desmond from Bell Witch on bass. On guitar, Mike Scheidt from Yob. Now dig this. Let's cap the whole thing off on top with vocals by King Diamond. What? In a doom band. Fuck yeah. Wouldn't that shit be fucking brilliant? And think Mike's big, broad, those big chords he uses.

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and King doing something operatic on top of that. But wait for the kicker. The name of the band is King Doomin'. I was just going to say this band is called what? King Doom? Fuck yeah. Well done. Nice. All right. My number one, it's kind of a thrashy, I guess. It's mostly thrash. And this is the one that I, based on a recent article, decided that this band wasn't going to get along very well.

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On guitars, we have both Dave Mustaine and James Hetfield, but that is not why they don't get along. On bass, we have Tom Araya. On drums, we have Gene Hoagland. And on vocals, who do we have, John? Tom G. Warrior. Tom G. Warrior, a.k.a. Thomas Gabriel Fisher, who just this past week

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was saying how much he hated metallica's playing his song and how much he hated james hetfield because he hunts bear um so i didn't read the headfield thing but i also agree with him about the song thing they do that every show because you don't see those in blabbermouth i hate those little things they do yeah and they cover somebody's low and the name for this band is slay talic death frost nice and your nickname now is the instigator

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All right, let's move back to Keith for the zombie band. This is people that are dead. It's time for the zombie band. Yeah, we are going to resurrect the dead here. So my zombie super group, I'm really stoked about this one. I think this would actually sound really good. So on drums, of course, John Bonham from Led Zeppelin. Ding, ding, ding.

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would be my zombie drummer. On bass and vocals, bass and like half of the vocals, I guess, would be Peter Steele from Typo Negative. On lead vocals, so they're doing kind of like a male-female vocal trade-off, I would have Aaliyah Starbridge from Trees of Eternity. It's funny, I was just thinking about her. Awesome. Can you imagine her and Peter Steele singing together?

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That's such a great album. That would be really cool. It would blow my mind. They would complement each other perfectly. Yeah, yeah. And for a guitar player, I had kind of a hard time thinking of any. So I decided that to be in this band, I would commit suicide and then resurrect myself to play guitar in it. That's dedication.

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I have Keith Day on guitar. You'd shit right in with that band for sure. I think it would sound really good. Don't be concerned anybody I'm okay. It's just a joke. Unless you're a necromancer. I guess it would be kind of like a goth doom sort of deal and the name of the band would be called Haunted Volcano. Sweet. That's cool.

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All right. So my zombie band. So I figured everybody would pick John Bonham. I picked Keith Moon from The Who. I picked Cliff Burton from Metallica. On rhythm guitar, keyboards and vocals. Prince. Sexy motherfucker. That's right. On lead guitar. Chuck.

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from death. And on lead vocals, Jeff Buckley. Wow. Nice. Nice. And I call this band Corvette Death. You know, dude, I'll say this. There's a lot of good dead people. Yeah, there are. I don't think anybody's named anybody in my band yet. Not one of my band members have been named, and those are all good members. One of mine. Yeah. No, I'm just really interested to see what they would

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Create, because I think they all kind of had a progressive streak in them, and just all at the top of their game. I didn't realize this was going to depress me as much as it is. Indeed. Matt. All right, my zombie. Mark is on. Start counting. On drums, John Bonham. I knew it. I knew it. Ace, Cliff Burton. Oh, yeah. Guitar and backing vocals.

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My hometown boy, fucking Prince. Really? On guitar, Chuck Schuldein. Other guitar, Jeff Hanneman. And on vocals, Ronnie James Steele. Nice. Awesome. This band is called Purple Rainbow in the Dark. Awesome. Fantastic. I love that we're almost lined up. That's really cool. Was it three or four?

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Prince is so good. Can you imagine him doing an heavy band though? You may be into it too. Yeah. And it took me years to realize that Prince is a great musician, but he can just tear and shred on guitar. He can. And Chuck was obviously very progressive too, so I think he would revel on that, trying to do something different. For my band, Jeff Buckley really was that guy too. My band practices in this place, in a no place here called Stanley Andrews.

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And it's just out in the middle of nowhere. And I pulled up, and it's just an old warehouse thing with maybe 20 or 30 places in it for bands to play. And I pulled up once a few years ago, and there was all these semi-trucks and shit and stuff. And the guy owns the place with this thing. And I was like, dude, what the fuck's going on? And Prince was playing Oakland the following night and decided he wanted to practice. And he was like, you can't tell anybody, dude. And we hung out and listened to Prince. I didn't get to go in and meet him or anything, but we sat outside and listened to him.

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He played from midnight to five in the morning. Wow. And then played Oakland that night. Wow. I didn't think anybody would have Prince. I'm really stoked, actually, that Matt named Prince. But I forgot, too, that, of course, he's going to need Prince. He lives right there. I had to. I think the term is lived right there, but okay. John, I think I'm stepping on your toes, but this leads less to you.

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Not at all. So I wanted the most outrageous. I wanted it to be bombastic, in your face, bad attitude. I just wanted everyone in this band to be like a big, huge personality. So on drums, Markisan. Really? I didn't. Oh, I thought Markisan was on drums. Yeah. Jump on drums. My basis originally was going to be Jaco Pastoria.

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If he's not considered the best, he's number two then, at worst, of all base players. But I decided he was a little too unknown, so I went with someone with some serious attitude. I went with Lemmy on base. He was in one of my groups, and I pulled him out. That's a great choice. That's because he chose my group, but that's cool. Jay will appreciate this.

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an outrageous keyboard player, somebody who would push his keyboards back and forth and be a big, huge, imposing presence on stage. So I went with John Lord on keyboards. And his mustache. Yes. So I went to one of the smallest guitarists ever, and not Angus, because he's alive, but I went with Randy Rhodes on guitar. And then I needed somebody on vocals who would jump off stage and punch you in the face and then go drink all your

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and steal your women. G.G. Allen? I was just going to say that. No. I was considering him, too. Sebastian Bach? No. He's alive. And I'm surprised. I was not, I guess I'm not surprised. But on vocals, Bon Scott. Sure. God, this was hard. Nobody said John Antlissol, for instance. Jesus, this is hard. So originally, I was figuring that,

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Somebody was going to use just the name Zombies. So I went with Zombies AD. Then I was like, that's really stupid. So I decided to call them Unholy Dead. Speaking of AD, I was in Starbucks yesterday and I was wearing my Bathory shirt and there was a dude in line next to me who's wearing a Misfits Earth AD shirt. I wanted to be like, nice shirt, but then he would have been, as a Misfits fan, he would have been like, lame-ass shirt, fucking loser. So I didn't say anything, but it was a really cool thing.

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So you just threw your coffee on him and left? Fuck you, man. What the hell? I heard what you said in your head. All right. I've got a couple here that are fair. Jayana mentioned, but it doesn't surprise me. I kind of built an already existing band up from the ground and then just did some slightly different things with him. So first and foremost, I have Cozy Paul on

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who is the reason that Rainbow is really one of the foundational what became metal in the 80s and he's an amazing drummer and he's dead. He fits the profile. Yeah indeed. And so that kind of led me then to Jimmy Bane on bass because of the relationship. He's dead? Because he's dead. Is he? And he shares a relationship with my son. When did he die? Probably two or three years ago. Didn't know that. Yeah he just shriveled up and died. I think it was alcoholism or something but

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So we need a keyboardist. John Lord is making an appearance in my band as well, John. I also need a guitarist and this guitarist resurrected one singer's career and I'm going to see if he can resurrect another's literally from the dead. So we've got Randy Rhodes. And of course, and I'm joking because you all chose wonderful things, but if you chose anybody, but Ronnie James Dio is your vocalist, you're wrong.

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I kid you guys you guys all have great choices but what I'm really proud of so basically what you've got there is Rainbow with Randy Rose and John Lord covering the the keyboards but that's great they've all worked together they got chemistry Randy worked with Ozzy see what you can do with Dio and I'm really proud of the name of this band you've all heard of the Day of the Dead Dio de los Muertos well how about the band Dio de los Muertos Dio Dio of the Dead bravo yeah that's fantastic that's what I created was Dio of the Dead

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And you wouldn't have to worry about Richie Blackmore co-opting the name as Richie Blackmore. I also have to show off to you my high resolution color. I love that. Oh, yeah. So good. This is a killer reproduction that they're doing on this and selling on Deal's website. It doesn't have the pre-summer. Holy Diver. Otherwise, it's a very complete and beautiful representation of Holy Diver. I've been trying to find like a flag or a poster of that that I could hang up in my office. Well, I'm

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I'm worried too, because, and this is going to change now tonight, finally, but I've been working very, very hard on a Dio article that I just sent to Markisan and George for their approval. And I've been listening to a shit ton of Dio because what I'm, well, there you go. So in any case, Dio of the dead. Right. George. So I didn't go with Dio because I knew everybody else was going to go with Dio. Um, and this band's kind of a mix. And I honestly, I'm surprised one of the people on here was not on Jay's list. Uh, but anyway, my guitar players have already

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It's already been said. Chuck Schuldiner and Jeff Hanneman. Barring them from Matt's band. On bass, Martin Ayn. Jay? Martin Ayn? Okay, I didn't think that through, did I? I don't have a keyboard player, but I think John Lord would fit in perfectly here, so I'm going to go with that. And by perfectly, I mean anybody can use John Lord. That's true. On drums, David Gold from Woodsville.

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On lead vocals,

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Quarthon of Bathory.

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This is hard.

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And on backup vocals,

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Odorous Yurongus.

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Don't know where that fits,

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but couldn't hurt.

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Got a name?

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Oh, yes.

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Blood Fire Dead.

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I say this again.

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That was harder than I realized.

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And I did think of Peter Steele. I tried to put him in my doom, man, but I was like, oh, he's dead. Oh, God. Yeah, that was a blast. That was really fun. It was a lot of work, but holy shit, it was a lot of fun. Yeah. And I suggested well done. And to George for making it more complex. All right. If anybody's still listening, let's move on to what we are listening to.

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Keith what are you listening to?

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So, yeah, again, I'm a little late to the party on this one, but I've been listening to the new Devin Townsend album, Empath, ever since I discovered it. I haven't been that moved by a piece of music on such a deep level in I can't even tell you how long. So I've been listening to that album almost nonstop. And as soon as he announced the European tour dates, I was like, which

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I got tickets to go see him live in Stockholm, Sweden in November. So I'm really looking forward to that. Would you call the new album metal? Yeah, sure. I mean, not every second of it is metal, but overall, you know, yeah, I would call that progressive metal. You know, that's a genre that you can do almost anything with. So suck it, Markazan. I don't think it's Will.

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I don't know what else you would classify that as. I'm just teasing. I love you. Anything else you've been listening to? Yeah. Also, my friends in Utkiaru just put out a new record not too long ago called Madness and Creation. They're good. Yeah. And they're another band that they're one of those bands that just keeps getting a little bit better and better with each release. So I was looking forward to seeing them improve and put out

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you know better quality stuff each time and such nice guys totally they made a few of our lists for a mid-year yes jay were they on yours nope i'm always the standout can't please everybody man no i think you can't please jay is the same i have to tell you uh chemist just announced a show here in oakland of course and i am of course gonna go you know what i mean but

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God knows how that's going to go down. Don't be surprised if your face is on the wall. I wouldn't assume that was an of course. I'm glad you're going. Oh, no. Well, it's an of course for two reasons. I do like them. But secondly, I like them. I mean, I like those guys. It's a good example of me really liking a group of guys and not necessarily. They're such nice guys. Oh, they're super fucking nice. Yeah. Yeah. If I had a super group and they were all in it, it'd be called super fucking nice.

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I almost had Phil as a vocalist in one of my bands. He was for a while and then I switched it up. I was like, we got time. We could do this down the road. Anything else, Keith? Other than that, I just, you know, I just listen to Louder Than Hell by Manowar all the time. That's pretty much it. Awesome. At least once a week. Love that record. Me too. All right, Markisan.

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What am I listening to? Other than the new releases we mentioned, I have also been spinning a band called Towering, Obscuring Manifestation. I missed this album when it came out in May, but holy fuck, I'm glad I found it because it's one of the elite death metal records of 2019. You guys need to hear this one. It's really good. The riffs are epic in it. Towering riffs. So their name is apt. Also a band called Super Terrestrial, The Void That Exists.

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on Green Flaw Productions. This is a really inventive black metal band that blends space-themed black metal and dark ambient synth. I really dig the way they transition sounds on this album from classic black metal guitars to these interstellar atmospheres to choppy guitars and then back again. My favorite track on this one is called Moriton Wave. It's the last track on the album, and it perfectly mixes all those sounds I mentioned in a 10-minute

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And I actually asked these guys to do a 10 horns interview and they are excited to do it. So that probably be the next one that I put up on the, or George will put up on the site. Um, uh, Atlantean codex. And this was one of my number one, most anticipated albums for the second half of the year. Um, Keith might be interested in this cause you mentioned like power metal and stuff like that. Um, they released their first single from their forthcoming album, the course of empire. And the track's called the people,

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of the moon. And it's glorious. If you'd like the idea of maiden mixed with manowar, then give this band a spin. Yeah, their singer is really good, too. I dig the vocals in that band. Yeah, it's so good. Everything's good about that band. Have you heard the new single, Keith? Not yet. So great. You gotta spin it. Russian Circles, Blood Year. I love Russian Circles. I was not as taken by the Alamette first as I

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I was with past records, but repeat plays definitely got me on board. So if you like heavy instrumental bands, Russian Circles is one of the best out there. Also, Glare of the Sun, Thea. I really liked this album when it came out before mid-year. I know John had it on his list. It didn't make my list because I just didn't have enough time with it because it literally came out in a day or two before we did our cast. So I'm revisiting it, and it's just excellent. Atmospheric, doom,

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Sludgy Post Metal. Also listening to Darkened Into the Blackness is an EP. It's streaming on Decibel right now. It's old school melodic death. It's kind of a super group. Dudes from Excruciate, Funa Braram, and Bolt Thrower. Bolt Thrower! Yeah, pretty good debut. Just a few songs, but I'm looking forward to hearing more from them. So those are the things I've just been listening to this week, actually.

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Awesome. Matt.

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Markerson, nice shirt, BTW.

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Yeah, Crowhurst.

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More on that later.

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All right.

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I've been listening to the new Tome Mold, Shock Shock, Planetary Clairvoyance.

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I'm trying to think of what website had an article.

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I want to say it was Invisible Oranges, but it was kind of about the Kralis catalog.

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And so that kind of pushed me to revisit quite a few of their releases. Also really digging the new witch vomit buried deep in a bottomless grave. From the last episode, Gates to the Morning, Return to Earth, really digging that album. Obviously been listening to a lot of Arctic Sleep, Kindred Spirits. And one from last year that I did not find that makes me sad, only in terms of making a year-end list, but that is Oxygen Destroyer, Bestial Manifestations of Malevolent.

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And death.

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That's a hell of a title.

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Yeah, it is.

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Hell of a band.

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It sounds like one of his band titles, actually.

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Kindred Spirits album is pretty good.

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I'm digging it.

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Without a shovel.

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It's fucking awesome.

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It's so good.

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I've been spitting on that a lot, too.

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But I didn't want to say it because the guy's on the cast.

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Suck ass.

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Ah, shucks.

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Shit, I just did it.

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God damn it.

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John.

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So work has been just brutal recently. So I haven't listened to as much stuff as I normally would like to, but I have given a few things, a few spins. So I've been listening to the new EP from the contortionist called our bones. I've been really spinning that new track from gate creeper a lot. We've mentioned that already. I was spinning two tracks from this third album from a band called night fell, which is a death doom band from Portland, but we ended up

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getting the promo so I spun that today and I like that so much I ended up picking it up on pre-order. A bunch of bands that are being played at Prog Power in a couple weeks that I want to see. I've been listening to those. I won't go on all those. I mean you'll hear about it later. And then some new vinyls. I got a ton of vinyl recently but it's all vinyl that I hadn't picked up yet. So one of them that I actually finally got a chance to listen to is The Gathering If Then Else which is their 2000.

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It came out in 2000. Finally on vinyl that I got that. And then, yeah, he's on the show, but I have been spinning the last two Arctic Sleep albums a lot on vinyl because there was this amazing deal on Bandcamp for the last two albums vinyl for $25. I couldn't pass that up. Yeah, man. I paid full press for both of those, bitch. Give me a refund or something. I also did the deal job. I got them for the deal. It's all about timing.

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George. Don't support the band when it initially comes out. Wait for the sale. Oh, also, I've been drinking the coffee and it's really good. Oh, have you really? All this week I've been drinking. I enjoy it. Actually, I did support the band. I just happened to buy the vinyl at the time when it came out. I'm just kidding. No, you're not. I am. I'm always going to buy Keith's stuff. Doesn't matter what it is or when it is. John, I love that Nightshale band. I haven't listened to the one that was

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in the dropbox but the last album was on was definitely pretty high on my albums of the year before i met you guys so i'm looking forward to spending it's cool you'll like it mark us on i think i will all right jay so uh just like everybody else i'd like to mention i've certainly been listening to a lot of stuff but the absolute truth is i've been listening more or less over the last two weeks to nothing but running james do and his various

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that's having to do because of this thing that I've written that we're going to put on the website before too long. I'll let that thing speak for itself and I'd maybe pimp it here a little bit and I hope people read it because I put a lot of work into it. It's really good so far. I haven't read all of it yet. What it is, and I'll say, and I might have said earlier in the cast, but I'm not sure if it was when we were just talking and I don't think I did mention it in the cast, but in any case, it's an interpretation of Dale's lyrics and how they are attached to his life in various points and how he looks at certain myths and things in very different lights, depending

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on how well his career is going and what he's doing and stuff. So it's a really well, I hope, thought through thing. And it all led up to me walking around in D.O. t-shirts and listening to D.O. constantly. So that's what I've been listening to. Yeah, that and the buzzing bees in my own brain trying to write this damn thing. All right. So what's your favorite D.O. album of all time? And what's your favorite song, Jay? Any of his stuff. It doesn't matter. Anything. I guess.

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That's super hard, because honestly, I think his stuff is good from start to finish, from the first Rainbow record to Heaven and Hell, the last Heaven and Hell record. Probably, if I had to choose on the spot, Holy Diver is probably my favorite record. Song, probably The Sign of the Southern Cross, South Mob Rules. That's a good one. Both of which are referenced in my article. Yeah. All right.

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Can't wait to read it. Yeah, well, you'll get your chance tonight if you're up late. Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah. And that moves it on to Georgie. First up is a band called Applaud the Impaler. The album is called Of Apocalypse Incarnate, and that of is O.V. It's the first album from a Virginia Beach brutal death metal band. Next, we have Deatharus.

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D-E-T-H-E-R-O-U-S. And their first album, Hacked to Death. It's an Alberta, Canada death metal band. There's a theme here. Next up, we have Dismembered Carnage and their second album, Blasphemed Betrayal, California death metal band. Disowning Human Cattle. This is the first album from an international death metal band. Next up, we have

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It's a little late to the party on this one, but Imprecation. Damnatio and Bestias. Yeah, it's a good one. You think they'd be from like Italy or something, but they're from Texas. And this is Death Metal Band's second album. Moving to the Midwest, we have Inoculation, Pure Cosmic Dread. First album of Cleveland, Death Metal. Then we have Paganizer, the new album from them.

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The Tower of the Morbid. This is their 11th album. This is Raga Johansson from Sweden. One of his many bands. Another first album, Sons of Famine as Razors Gnaw Like Wolves, Chicago Black and Death Band. Only two more. This one's called VHS and the album is called We're Gonna Need Some Bigger Riffs.

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They're a Canadian Death Thrash grind band, and most of, if not all of the songs, are shark-related in a Jaws-y kind of way. And then the last one, because they're German, I'm going to pronounce this Wandaar, W-A-N-D-A-R. The album's called Zeitlas, and it's the second album, they're a German black metal band.

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you said death of wrists and I immediately thought

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because he's playing on all of our bands

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our fantasy bands yeah I don't know if that's

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death of wrists or

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I don't know I don't know but

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death of wrists

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probably not how it's pronounced

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alright well

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that's it

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we're done almost

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we still have to thank Keith for coming on

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twice

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because of the technical difficulties

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Yeah, man. No, for real. Thank you so much for hanging out, letting me hang out. And I really appreciate everything you guys do and appreciate you having me on the podcast as your guest very much. So thank you. You are most welcome. Thank you. You were generous with your time, sir. We appreciate it. So go out and pick up the new Arctic Sleep album, Kindred Spirits. Go get the Unearthed Elf. Somebody else say it. Unearthed Elf.

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And you know there's six other Arctic Sleep albums as well, so you can pick up those too. Yep. Go spend some money. All right. I guess until next time, we remain the Metalheads Podcast.

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The eyes of the world

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And twang me

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It's so wild to get to Hawaii. Yeah, she's going to find... I'm moving to Hawaii, Keith. That's why my wife's going out there. She works out there. Are you for real? Yeah, yeah. Where are you now? You're in Evanston, right? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Cool. I used to work in Evanston. Oh, you did? Oh. I did, yeah. In the Rotary building. Yeah, you're not far from me because you're... Where are you? Like Milwaukee area, right? Yup, yup. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was like, how do you know that? Then I was like, oh, you just sent me the album and coffee.

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That's right, yeah. There's not a lot of Marky-sons out there. Yeah. No, I'm actually the only one. I was like, this is probably the same guy. Yeah. Did you guys see George's message? His power went out. Oh, shit. Well, just, I'll text him. No, he just called me. Oh, he did? So, yeah, he said the power's out, and I said... I mean, I'm recording. Should we keep going, or what should we do? He's not recording. But I'm recording, though.

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He has the backup tapes. That's true. Let me mention it to him. I know how it works, man. I've had many a time where it hasn't recorded and I wish that somebody else on the cast did that. So whenever I come on this one, I'm like, eh, I'll just turn the recorder on. I don't always need it, but I haven't needed it at all. But this is the one time I will. So it works.

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or is it just his power just went out there? I don't know. I mean, we don't have anything going on. I mean, he's 50 miles away from me, but we don't have anything going on on our end right now. Oh, so we didn't lose what we had. I don't know. Maybe it's something like from The Purge or something. I just watched that movie last night. Maybe he needs to go start boarding up windows. Didn't they do a show on The Purge, too? Is The Purge good? It's like the one horror franchise I have not delved into. I don't know. I mean, the first one was alright.

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I haven't seen it yet.

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John, I heard the show was really good, but I haven't watched any of the movies or the show.

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Yeah, I saw the first one. I saw the second one last night. It was like a bunch of people die.

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Which one is the first Purge? What number is that in the chronology?

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That's like the newest one, right?

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No, the newest one is the first. Yeah, I think so.

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Yeah.

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But the first movie, I think, is like third in the chronology or something like that, I guess.

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You mean episode four?

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Yeah, for the most part, yeah.

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But it'd be episode three.

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So it's kind of weird because that came out, yeah.

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All right.

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In 1977.

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All right.

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By the way, did you guys see what he said about that?

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He's like, what order should you watch them in?

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And he went, one, two, three, four, five, six.

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That's how you should watch them.

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And I guess that pissed some people off. I was like, well, what'd you think he was going to say? Six, five, four, three, two, one. Contact. I'm waiting to see what he says here. Okay, he's not happy. No. He's got to get back because doing the top five is very important.

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Oh, man. That's going to be a good one. Yeah. It was a great idea. It was a lot of work, but it was a great idea. I didn't go very deep, but yet I spent hours on it. I had a hard time with it. When I suggested it, I was thinking we would each do one. It was like, no, you're going to do five of them. I was like, fuck. I have to put so much thought into just one of them. It was hard. We do five of everything. Yeah. See, I originally thought it was just going to be one band, too.

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I was like, oh, fuck, I gotta do this five more times? The episode's gonna be three hours long. And then the zombie one, which is like... Actually, keep the top five's gonna be three hours long, not the episode. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh, shit. I kept going back on it over and over because I think the tendency is to pick some of the very best of all time, especially if they're still alive. I wanted to think about it in terms of, like, what would the band be? And should I pick some newer people?

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as well. So I started off picking, yeah, who are the best at these things? Well, maybe they won't merge. Maybe they won't work together. So it was really fun to do it. And especially coming up with band names, too. I'm not going to, this is not a spoiler or anything, but I was so thorough, Marcus, Markisan about that myself, like trying to do that. And I actually called one of mine one hit wonder because I'm positive they'd break up after that. So that's the kind of thing I did of mine, too, which was chemistry.

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Almost every one of mine has at least one guy who is famously hard to work with. I don't know why that is. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's true. Because I would have looked, it's like I know a lot of musicians, but I don't, I'm not always sure what their role is. Like, are they the men's songwriter? Right. You know, what's happened in their personal life? And quite a few people have been jailed on my list. We should have brought forth a good band name. We should have done that one.

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I'm doing the research and finding out a little bit more about these bands I love. Is this like a 90s Norwegian all-star band or something? Right. I tried to find groups because it's so fucking vast that I'm like, okay, I've got to find ways to be able to make this a little bit more granular. And so I thought, do I pick a genre and make a super group? And so what I ended up going with was just what I'm most passionate about. Or I flashback to when I was a little wee pup.

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and like, you know, what kind of hit me hard. I wonder if anybody else had this experience, because there's a couple of bands that are really super incestuous, like Black Sabbath and Deep Purple and some others. And there was a couple that I started to put them together, and I was like, oh, no, wait, that's just Deep Purple. I just created Deep Purple with one different guy, you know what I mean? You're like, oh, wow, that's Mark 8. I didn't realize that shit. And it was interesting, because I think George mentioned that Keith was going to put,

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a rapper on it or something. Lil Wayne. And I was like, oh man, because I love metal so much. Should I think outside the box and go to some of these other places, these other artists that I love? And I did. I did a little bit. I have a rapper in mind, and that's more of a personal experience I just had. And it felt good. It felt really good. Okay, good. Well, I may never hear it, but we'll see. No, never. See, I had a different...

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It may not be today

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I had a different problem you guys

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I started thinking about all these supergroups and I realized

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all the music I generally listen to

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everybody's in a supergroup

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so everyone goes off and does a project

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I'm like fuck I put all these guys together

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that's actually this band

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I had that problem too but then there were other

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okay so here was some other ones

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that I had problems with where people like

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where I was like you know what that guy doesn't really work

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anywhere but in Iron Maiden

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I don't see how there's not a different formula here

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He's right where he's supposed to be. There's not a super group for this guy, whoever he may be. So Yonix on your list? Speaking of the Deep Purple thing, because he used to play with Ian Glew. Yeah, I know. That's the incestuous part. I'm telling you, man, these family trees are pretty fucking slim. At least in the worlds I was dealing with. So apparently they are having an absolute apocalyptic storm up there right now. Wow. That was probably what was just in my neck of the woods.

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We need to make a decision. I mean, we don't. I think the thing is how bad we hurt George's feelings in the second part is could he at least Skype in on his phone for the top five? Because at the very least, I think he'd I don't know that he'd care that much if he missed the news and everything. Yeah, I'm not sure he's I mentioned about the recording and he wasn't sure about that because he'd have to merge two recordings together. Fair enough. I mean, that would be hard. The merger. The first merger.

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I can do that.

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Just tell me what he said.

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He's not happy right now, so I'm going to go ahead and think that that's why he's responding that way.

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Oh, yeah.

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I'm sure he's spitting venom right now, dude.

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I'm always up for a do-over.

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I think it might have to be that.

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I would never look at things this way, but I guess as the senior ranking member,

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I'm going to suggest that. That we do that. I will say that's probably not right that we go on with George. We'll go on without George. No, it's fine. I'm asking him right now what he wants to do. Yeah. He's going to want to be on cash. At the very least, he's in a very uncertain place as to when that power comes back. Especially after Keith's top five. I know that he spent a lot of time on that. The reason we're all having a hard time giving this up is because we all want to get to that. I want to show you guys how fucking clever I am.

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I'm so proud of my list.

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Text him that we just finished the top fives.

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You should totally do that.

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And it was awesome.

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And he fucking missed it.

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I want to say, well, this sucks, George.

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We actually just finished the episode.

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Probably one of our best episodes.

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I mean, it's amazing what happens when you go down one man.

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All right. He's thinking we're going to have to reschedule because apparently it's pretty bad there right now. Yikes. Yeah. I mean, I'm. I've been asking if he wants us to wait a few more minutes. And if he says no, then I guess we'll have to reschedule. No problem. To that end. And we'll certainly use George as our central communication thing here. But I'm free like every night this week. I'm going to go to the A's game on Tuesday night. But short of that, I'm free. Yeah.

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I am too. The wife is gone. She just landed, which is great. But yeah, I can do it anytime. Tuesday and Thursday nights might be tough because Jen has class and she also has to do what we're doing right now. And I don't want to fuck with her. Okay, well, we'll let George be the kingpin on it then. But for the most part, I'm pretty good. Well, to make him feel a little better because I bet he's fucking pissed. I know. As you say, let's maybe once we do, which I'm pretty sure he's going to say cut it,

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We'll all text in some availability. Yeah. So that he can feel a little better before the night ends if he can come up with an alternate. Yeah. How's your availability, Keith? I have no life. No friends. I just sit down here in the basement. What? Yeah. Sit in the basement all day. Dude, come to Chicago and hang out with me. I'm a really cool guy. I just play guitar all day. Also, I've met Marcus. He's not that cool.

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Yeah, come out here. I hang out. Now I'm like drinking buddies with Nate Madden from Immortal Bird. Oh, cool. You should come out and have some beers with us. Yeah, anytime. He actually helped me do one of the super bands. Oh, really? Yeah, I'll mention that when we do the cast. He's not in the band, is he? No, I didn't do anybody from his band, no. But I just asked him because we were drinking, like, what would you think? And so we created

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I'll spoil a little bit, we created a death metal band together. Nice. I would never think anyone on this podcast would do that. There's none in my list, actually. It's a lot of grindcore. Grindcore, wow. That stuff is hard for me, too, though, because I don't know how to explain it, except in that I tended to focus on, I started each one with somebody who is an exemplary musician with a lot of expressive blah, blah, blah, and that's not,

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anything picking on thrash or anything like that. But I couldn't come up with a thrash supergroup. I started one with Samaria and I got nowhere. Which is funny because I have an entire thrash supergroup. Oh man. Yeah, I definitely did a couple death metal and then some of them are just, I don't know what they would be. And then I did a doom metal band for sure. But the other two, yeah, I have no idea what they're going to be. I did a doom and my name for that band is fucking brilliant. And also my...

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My Zombies one is the greatest fucking name ever, dude. I so wish we were doing this list tonight. Well, the good news is that Keith can do it any time. He lives for this podcast. He can't wait to get back on this thing. What can I say? He said if we want to wait around, we can, but he said it usually takes at least an hour in his area when this stuff happens for the power to come up, so I'll stick around for a few minutes. So this happens that often that he has a

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I mean it never happened while we were potting but he has yeah fucking Connecticut that's actually Maryland but same difference yeah yeah fucking Maryland literally to be sarcastically insulting fucking New England region as well and I would say it's on the other side of the river so

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people don't like to come to Virginia. We always have to go over there. Maryland's nice. It is. I like it. Yeah, me too. I like all those colonial houses and buildings and things. Beautiful countryside. Georgia lives pretty far out in Booney. It's a lovely little drive to get out there. It's alright. And Frederick's a nice little town. Yeah. I'll just check in to see what it's like on my end. Keith, did you ever get out?

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Yeah, I mean, I used to live there. I only moved to Milwaukee like 10 years ago. Yeah. I never listened to this band, Arctic Sleep, until just recently when they mentioned, George mentioned we were going to do the interview. Yeah. But I'm a fan of Unearthed Elf. Really? Because I have the vinyl, I have the

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I have all the stuff. I don't know why I never went and said, oh, let's check out some of these other projects. But it's actually really cool because I had a chance to dive in and have something new. But have you checked out Chopping Mall? I have because George puts that up and that is fucking fantastic. I love it. I especially love all the posts that you make where you just don't give a shit about anybody. And nobody follows it at all. It's really wild.

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I'll go on there and be like, fuck all of you. Oh, yeah. And I know, I mean, I totally want to ask you questions about that, but I know George is going to ask questions about it, too. So I just do that in my basement just to blow up steam. That's fun. Yeah. You don't really hear about too many, you know, one man grind core bands in a basement. It's usually like a one man black metal band, you know, living out in the woods in a trailer somewhere. He's got a black, he's got like 14 albums the last two years. Right. No friends.

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Well, it's funny because the original tracks that he did, they definitely are grindcore. But then when you started doing the covers, that doesn't sound like grindcore to me. No, it's not. It's just having some fun. Yeah. Which song are you going to do next? Make a full grindcore album one of these days. It's on my list of things to do. I love that you did Starship because that was the first album I ever got. Was it really? Yeah. I remember.

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when I was like, I don't know, maybe 12 or something. I didn't really buy any albums. And I asked my dad, I was like, I want to get into rock. What's the album I should get into? And he was like, oh, he was probably like Starship. Fucking knee deep in the hoopla. And I know all the lyrics to all the songs. Like, it's just crazy. Yeah, I'm going to get fucking Starship. You mean like the Starship we built this city? Yeah. Yep. So Jay lives out in the Bay Area and I'm from San Francisco.

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And you know what? Jefferson Starship was fine. The moment they just went to Starship, everyone to bear is like, what the fuck, man? I mean, literally just flipped over in a second. Yeah. And you know, all those cover songs, those chopping mall cover songs, I actually love, I actually love those songs. I'm not like making fun of them or anything. I'm just having fun with, with those songs that I enjoy. So even we built the city on rock and roll, that song receives so much fucking hate. But I kind of like,

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Everybody remembers it. I still love it. Again, because it's the first thing. It's a guilty pleasure. I kind of assume that. I agree with Keith very much so that you were like, Dad, what's a definitive rock album? That's what he tells me. Right. He doesn't give me the Beatles. My dad loves the Beatles. He doesn't give me Zeppelin. That's not even a proper iteration of that particular band. That's how they're off.

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He was like, I don't want any girls. Not even the white rabbit ears, you know what I mean? It's like, it is really funny. Do this one, boy. I gotta tell you though, on the rare demos, as soon as I saw Sarah Jessica Parker looks like a horse, I literally pissed myself. I was like, wow, I'm not the only one who feels that way. I had a good cry. Good cry. And then you went and watched like six seasons,

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of Sex and the City.

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Back to Back.

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Keith, are you going to do a whole album's worth of Chopping Mall?

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Are you going to put it out on something?

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Or is it just going to be for fun forever?

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You know, I don't want to get sued by Gene Simmons and company, so I probably won't.

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Well, don't use any devil horns and drink orange juice.

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Yeah, I did do a Lick It Up cover.

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And, you know, I don't think they would take too kindly to that.

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They like to sue people, Kiss does.

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So what's the next one you're going to cover? The next one I'm going to do is Material Girl by Madonna. Nice. Yes. Fuck, I love Madonna. Yeah, it's already in the works. I was particularly fond of the Poison cover you did. Was it Talk Dirty to Me? Yeah, yeah. Yes. Huge fan. That's fantastic. Well, John, have you heard anything from George there? Let me check.

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I saw Will's Got Power, and George said it must be nice. Well, yeah. Because, I mean, Keith could be doing that Material Girl cover. I mean, Keith, if you want to do it right here for us, that would be great. I would have to plug in a lot of stuff. I'd have to unplug some things, too. Only working with a few outlets here. Nothing from him. I'm guessing that we can call it an evening, which blows. What can you do?

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Yeah. It was fun. Well, but we'll pick up where we left off. And I'm sure we can do this in the course of just a few days from now or something. Yeah. Quite easily. I'll let them know that we're going to shut down. Yeah. My availability is pretty good. Cool. I mean, I'm super busy with tons of shit. So I'll try my best between selling shit loads of albums and signing autographs. Yeah. I mean, Keith is needy.

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in the hoopla. So we're going to have to figure out a way to work around that. We're going to come back on. You're going to have like eight new chopping block songs done. How did you get 223 songs on that one album? That's a lie. Yeah. Oh, it is. Oh, well, that's only what a triple album then if it's grindcore. Yeah. Yeah. The whole thing's a joke. I know.

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I bet you there's people don't think that. I hope there is. Yeah. So you got to put then like really one legitimate song out there that doesn't throw people off and then just attach everything else to it. Right, right. Something with a normal song title. I mean, I don't, I think Material Girl is about as legit as you can get. It's going to be good. All right, well, let's see. All right.

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Sorry about that Keith. Cheers. We'll talk to you soon. Yeah. We'll see you guys. Hopefully soon. Yeah. Everybody have a good Monday. See you guys. Bye.

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Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck! Have yourselves a really good night now, okay?