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Metalheads Podcast Go.

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Hello and welcome to the Metalheads Podcast.

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My name is George.

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This is Jay. This is Will.

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This is John. This is Matt.

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This is Markisan. And we are joined today by...

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If you've listened to this podcast, you know him well.

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Our Lord and Savior, the godfather of craft beer and metal,

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the one and only decibel author of The Brutal Truth Guide to Extreme Beers, Adam Tepedelin.

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Hello, Adam.

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Hey, wow, that was quite an intro.

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Yeah, we're out of time.

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I'm glad I didn't walk over that intro,

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I appreciate that you talking me up like that. I feel a little like I need to do some miracles before we get going here or something. Yeah, we're hoping for it. Turn some beer into beer. Yeah, you've done some miracles because John and I have pretty much lost our livers and drained our bank accounts. Yeah, the miracle is we're still alive. Yes. The miracle is you get Will to read a book. You know, Jay, there's pictures in the book, too.

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It goes a long way here. Well, I appreciate that you read the book as well. And actually, I never would have imagined that when I wrote that, that you guys would do what you did and try to, well, and I don't know, did you successfully drink all of them? Or I think you were very close. We're three short. Three short. Yeah, so that was when I, when I, I made a concerted effort when I was sourcing the beers for it to ask the brewers,

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Are you going to brew this one again? Is this going to be available? Even if it was seasonally. But the one I should have known better was the 666 from, I think, Diamond Knot. Because that was basically their 666th batch. And so, yeah, they weren't going to do that one again. I think we did reach out to them. John and I reached out to them. They said they were opening up a new production brewery. And when they were opening up the new production brewery, they would start over again. Maybe they'll...

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Maybe they'll get another 666 sometime. But I think it wasn't Ride a Tiger, also another one from Three Floids. Yeah, I actually asked them when I was there, and they were like, eh, when we get around to it, I thought, well, that's not going to happen anytime soon. No. Yeah, and Thrash Metal. Thrash Metal. Those three. Huh. That one surprised me a little bit, because I could see them doing that one again, but whatever. I apologize. Anyway, congratulations.

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to you guys doing that, that was quite an accomplishment. Even just tracking down that many beers took me a long time to do it. And obviously I didn't have to pay for them. Well, I paid for some of them, but yeah, that, that must not have been easy. So for the uneducated, what we're talking about is the John and I, when we met, when I was a brewer at a different brewery here in Alexandria, Virginia, we, we got Adam's book and we decided that we were going to drink every single beer in the brutal truth guide to extreme beers.

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And if you've been sleeping under a rock

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Or have never listened to this podcast before

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Because we mention it nearly every podcast

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We either mention Decibel, Adam, or his book

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Or all three really

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We so often

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Especially at the mid-year and the year end

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We mention his book and the beers in it

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And we take our pants off

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Yeah, we take our pants off

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We lose brain cells, our livers

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Are slightly more cirrhosed after every episode

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And it's all Adam's fault.

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I should be noted that there are more than 120 beers in there.

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So just to give some scope to how many beers you guys track down or attempted to.

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Yeah, yeah, it was quite the undertaking.

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It's also interesting that we've continued tracking down some of those beers on a regular basis still.

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You know, there should be one of our top five lists should be the top 120 whatever beers and you have to rank all of them.

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So you got to start all over

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Some of those might have been after having a few of those beers

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Well, Untap could help with that if you did racking

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That's true

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So one of the reasons we're having Adam on yet again

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So we've had Adam on I think twice now

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at the Decibel Metal and Beer Festival in Philadelphia

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who he's graciously met us in a dank smelly hotel room in Philadelphia

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to record this podcast. Adam is coming out with a new book. And I want to say, or I hope to say, that our podcast is slightly responsible for browbeating him and encouraging him and donating to the cause to write another book about beer or metal. So Adam, take it away. What's the new book? Yeah. So yes, a lot of that is true.

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and encouraging me to do another book.

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The reality of it is, as I think I went into some detail last time,

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so I won't bore you going over why I'm not doing part two of the extreme,

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you know, the Brutal Truth Guide to Extreme Beers.

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One of the main things, though, that I've sort of discovered is that

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to do it would be a little bit, to do an extreme beer guide

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would be a little pointless in a way because craft beer has just sort of in six years or six or seven years a lot of the beers that i that i um wrote about in my first one just don't seem really as extreme anymore let's put it that way so would you say craft beer is some ways not jump to shark but they just they're all kind of extreme in a weird sort of way yeah and you know and even in my in the intro to my book at the time i think i i said um you know extreme is

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If you're defining what extreme is, it's sort of contextual. And I don't know that I knew that six years later that a lot of those beers wouldn't seem as extreme in comparison to everything else that's come out. But, you know, craft beer has always been about, you know, pushing the boundaries. And so inevitably, you know, you just keep going beyond even stuff that seemed extreme then. There are certain examples in there that I think are, I kind of think are quaint now.

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I look back on them and I go, oh man, that's not really extreme at all. That's just like a normal beer now, you know, 100 plus IBU, double IPA, whatever, you know, barrel aged and whatever barrel. You know, those beers aren't, they just don't have that same sort of wow factor or whatever. Unfortunately, there's just a lot of beers now that some brewers have gone in directions of quote unquote extremity or whatever boundary pushing that I just don't even care for anymore.

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That's another thing. It's like they're these like raspberry milkshake.

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Here here.

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You know, and then they tag IPA on the end of it. And I just don't really know what any of that means. And it doesn't taste good either. So I didn't want to do an extreme beer book. Part two. Now I could see doing something that was sort of like metal focused because that's the one thing that has changed dramatically.

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I had one section on sort of like, you know, quote unquote metal beers in the book.

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And I tried to sort of keep that as a general overarching theme in the book, you know, just to have a lot of metal-esque beers.

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But, you know, that's one thing that's changed dramatically is the number of just pure metal breweries that have popped up.

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There are so many of them.

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And from my column, you know, I was documenting a lot of them, but I didn't even really get to all of them, basically.

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And, you know, a lot of those have then appeared, a lot of those breweries have shown up at the Decibel Medal and Beer Fest, largely in part because I was aware of them and I hooked them up, I hooked Decibel up with them. But, so my thought was with this book, it's not necessarily new material, but it kind of made sense that after writing the column for almost 10 years,

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and amassing more than 100 columns that, you know, I basically had a book's worth of material. And unless you subscribe to Decibel for that period of time, which you guys probably all did, but other people, you know, would want to see all the Brutal Truth columns that I wrote. And I felt like because those columns were a little bit less metal focused, there was definitely a metal aspect to it.

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and I interviewed metal musicians but it could be a book that was a little bit more accessible to just people that are interested in craft beer and wanted to sort of read my take on you know craft beer from my column for for 10 years I thought that it would be good to collect them all the other thing I wanted to do is basically revise and update them so you know not really heavily but a little bit here and there and have like a little intro before each one sort of introducing it and I've been going over them

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you know kind of revisiting them in preparation for putting this all together and it's kind of funny some are very you know like prescient in a way and others are sort of like oh yeah well I really have to explain sort of why I did this because now it sort of seems like kind of corny or whatever I have to just put it in the context that it was written because you know craft beer in 2009 when I first started versus craft beer and even like

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2018 or whatever, dramatically different in so many different ways.

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So, yeah, I mean, that's the basis of this book is just it's going to be a collection of all my columns.

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And as I say, 100 plus, I'm not sure exactly.

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There are going to be a couple that are going to that won't make it.

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I found out that one of the subjects of my one of my columns turned out to be he got arrested for having child pornography.

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on his computer, so I just kind of feel compelled to include that guy in the book. So... That was not me, by the way. It's nobody in this group, so... I don't feel the need to clarify like Will. Well, I was actually in one of the columns. John was mentioning the same column, and it's not John. Clear. Other than that, I think, you know, I'll use however 100,

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I think there's maybe 108 or 9, something like that. And it's going to be, you know, full book length. You know, the word count is 60,000 words or something. And I think my first book was about 40-some thousand words. Obviously, a lot of pictures. This won't have as many pictures in it.

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What did you say? You want to put nude pictures of me in the book, Will? Is that what you just said?

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Yeah, look how handsome man. I might have a hard time getting his permission to do that. I'm just guessing. Well, just give me beer. Just show up at our year end and take pictures. Adam, I do want to backtrack about five minutes. Something that you said is that when you wrote the Brew of Truth Guide to Extreme Beers back in, was it a, I'm trying to do my math.

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70 years ago that there weren't as many like there was many extreme beers but there weren't as many metal beers and i have to say like the amount of metal breweries like the metal focused breweries that have opened up or just non sort of metal breweries in their complete aesthetic that are doing metal things has just exploded exponentially in the last few years

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And so, and I look at, so one, the amount of metal, like Holy Mountain, that has opened up, which I know is up in the Pacific Northwest near you, which obviously named after the Sleep, Holy Mountain album, just who make fantastic beers, a lot of sours. But I mean, I just, I almost feel like there has to be some sort of credit due to you for everything you do.

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I'm wearing right now.

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I don't know if there's any one particular individual

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in the entire overarching genre of metal and craft beer collision

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that you've had that impact.

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Yes, George, I see you doing this, me blowing.

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But I'm being very serious.

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I mean, and it had some impact on like, look, look at some of the stuff I've done at that I've done at Atlas, but I think that you are a very key component of that expansion and collision of metal and craft beer. And just to the point, use your own words, how much is expanded that you can't just like, when you're talking about your book, the, the, anyway, go ahead. Sorry.

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Well, I think, I mean, it's true, but I don't, I can only, I think I can only take so much credit for it. I think I was kind of right place, right time. And I think there was a certain bit of zeitgeist kind of going on. And, you know, there were, before I started doing my column and decibel, it's, there were breweries, breweries like Three Floyds that were, you know, kind of a step ahead, I would say. So I don't,

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I think what I did, my contribution was in a way is that I just sort of, I fostered it a little bit and I helped it from the perspective of my column and being able to interview some of these people that were doing this early on. And I think, I don't know that I, I doubt I inspired anyone to do this. I think it was a matter of, there was this generation

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for lack of a better word of breweries that were basically felt okay sort of expressing their metalness through their brewery and I don't know I can't really take credit for that myself or what I was doing I think it was just as I said it was like a bit of a zeitgeist thing and I think I just helped it along basically and you know yeah I think that's really it I think it

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I don't know if it was bound to happen, but I think I did my part in helping, certainly. I'll take credit for that.

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Yeah, I think you did. Weirdly enough, I think you're like, oh, this is cool. This is acceptable. This is a thing. Metal and craft beer together. This is a thing. And you have a whole bunch of mad, raving, lunatic metalheads working in all these breweries. And now it's like, yeah, oh, well, we can name this beer after this band and we can do this.

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And weirdly enough, we may be featured in Decibel Magazine if we do this. Like I was at one point back in whatever 2013 or whatever year that was. And I have to say, like my favorite of your columns in Decibel Magazine was interviewing the actual brewers or the breweries who were making these metal beers or metal inspired beers or the whole brewery itself like True or

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or Three Floyds or it's almost like their entire aesthetic or something like

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metal and I think that in my and I'm living in a bubble I'm living in a metal and beer bubble

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like almost all of us are in the podcast so we're living this bubble so like we focus on these certain

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things about it um like so I think like a lot a lot of what you were doing in decibel was very

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inspirational and like you said the zeitgeist for it all so take your credit you can be humble

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I will get on top of you and give you more credit than you want to accept.

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Well, I think that's fine. I don't want to heap too much credit on myself, but I was happy to sort of be the voice for those people and connect those people up with decibel readers and stuff.

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It was pretty amazing early on when the column first started. Honestly, I didn't think it was going to last as long as it did. I outlasted a lot of other columnists in that magazine. Immediately when I first started writing it, we got a lot of really positive feedback, which just astounded me. It's a weird thing. Kudos to Albert for greenlighting it. It was awesome that decibel readers, not all of them, but a lot of them connected with it.

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It was obviously beer drinking and listening to metal. That goes back a long ways. But beer and I should say good beer, craft beer and metal and sort of taking a different approach to it I think was novel. And I'm glad that people appreciated it and that Decibel allowed me to do it for as long as I could.

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And I got to interview all those interesting brewers. You know, I mean, that was a huge thing for me is I made a ton of friends who are brewers, who are musicians, who, you know, the thing that we share in common is that we all love great beer and we all love metal. And it was like, you know, like you guys, it's like instant best friends, basically, because we already have that, you know, our passions are there. And the thing about

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and craft beer drinkers is that they're super passionate about both those things and so when you combine the two you know you get people that are you know diehards and so I think that that helped keep the column going was just the fact that the people that were interested in it you know wanted to read it every month and you know wanted to see what was new and Decibel never said well hey why don't you try a column on this this month it was completely always my

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And, you know, I tried to have some fun with it, basically, and just, yeah, talk to brewers, talk to musicians, and then, you know, just write whatever. You know, I wrote some about baseball. I wrote some about all kinds of things over the course of the years. And so it's been really cool revisiting all these and putting together the book and just kind of seeing how varied it was. You know, there were definitely moments where it was metal. There was a lot of metal.

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in it or whatever but it wasn't always really when I started writing and I was just writing a beer column that was my intention and it wasn't sort of about trying to connect the dots now granted I did you know because I'm interested and passionate about metal I did include it obviously in different ways but I never really initially tried to consciously you know make a point of tying these two things together because I felt like that would be a little awkward and I didn't want to do that

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It kind of made sense later, but early on I didn't want to do that.

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Hey, Adam.

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We have a visitor.

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That's where the slime lives.

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Where the slime lives.

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Hey, I wanted to ask you, Adam.

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Is there any beer or brewery that you wanted to get for the column or for the book that you didn't,

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that just kind of slipped through your fingers off the top of your head. I'm sure there were so many, but because I'm sure each month or each time you're writing this, you have a list of things that you're looking to see what you can fit that works. But I'm wondering if there's ever one that kind of holy grailed away from you that you were searching for to get. You know, to be honest with you, I 100% know that there were.

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I did before I even started writing the book was just create a huge list of beers that I wanted.

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You just started checking them off then?

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Off the top of my head, I couldn't tell you right now. If I looked at my list, I'm sure if I revisited that list.

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But the problem was this. The domestically brewed beers, as long as they were still in production, when I say domestically, I mean basically North America.

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Canada and the US, as long as they're still in production, were pretty easy to get.

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But when it came to the European beers, those were the squirrely ones because shipping them over, if they didn't have an importer, then it was really tricky to get them over.

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And in fact, I think it was Streis that sent me some beers directly from their brewery. And they listed on the box that they were sending yeast samples rather than beer, which I thought was very clever. But I'll tell you one. By the way, Adam, I've used that excuse multiple times by shipping beer. Oh, yeast samples. Yeah, well, it's true.

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The one though that I had lined up that was actually sent to me but broke in the shipping was from this Italian brewery. I want to say maybe Del Dicato and it was brewed with tobacco. And I thought that would be perfect for the book because how fucking weird is that? I mean, I've never heard of any other beer ever brewed with tobacco. And I know that they couldn't sell it in the States because of that very reason.

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So it went through the importer that sold some of their other stuff. And so they're like, yeah, we'll get you a bottle. And of course, the box shows up and that was the only beer that was broken in there. So I'm sorry to kill your liver and your lungs. Yeah, exactly. That's interesting because Will and I both live in Virginia. You would think at some point someone in Virginia would have thought about doing that since we're on Tobacco Road, you know? Yeah, it may not be a good idea. I don't know. Maybe the beer was terrible. I don't I don't know. But I want.

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Yeah, it's like after dinner is just completely covered your smoke and your drink after you're finished.

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Yeah, there you go.

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So Adam, on the opposite spectrum, what's the worst beer you've ever had?

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Well, that's a loaded question. I'll tell you why. Because I currently live in Canada, and I live on the West Coast in British Columbia.

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And I would say that the craft beer scene here is maybe a decade or two behind the U.S. craft beer scene and in many different ways. It's not to say that craft beer hasn't been up here, but it took sort of a different trajectory. And so as part of a recent job that I had for a few years, I was tasting new releases from B.C. breweries.

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It started out like five or six years ago when the scene over here was a little younger. We were tasting like five or ten new beers a week. In the last couple of years, we were tasting like 20, 25 new beers a week. The problem is that... Was that at Cook's Liquor? Cook Street Liquor, yeah. Cook Street, yeah, okay.

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Not really good in this area. There's a still quite they're learning. And so I would have I'll tell you one thing that I really have a very, very low tolerance for is poorly made kettle sours. And in general, I try to just avoid kettle sours unless it's from a brewery that I really trust and know that knows what they're doing. But, you know, if that beer, that style of beer is not made properly, it's really bad. I mean, it can smell bad.

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It can taste bad. So I really, in general, that's something that I experienced a lot of. And I just really have some negative feelings about it. I can tell you as a brewer that making a kettle sour is absolutely the biggest pain in the ass ever. It is literally the hardest beer, the most time consuming beer. People are coming in all hours of the night to check the pH and the temperature to make a kettle sour. I just want to eliminate the whole

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a whole like genre category of beer that's how a lot of goes a lot of gozes are made like that

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and right atlas we make a goza we make our blood orange goza like that and it is

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an enormous pain in the ass however all this is actually super delicious and i don't even like

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sour beers i can't help but wonder if i'm the only one who when hearing uh quality quality control

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in canada for beer didn't think of uh yeah uh there's a mouse in my mouth

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And our dad drank it and he puked, eh? They said to bring this here and get free beer or else they'll be pressing charges. 12 to 8, 24. Let me tell you the worst beer I ever had. So when I worked in an office, there was a bar around the corner. And this bar had a club and you could join it and you get to try all the different beers that they had. And so I got through all of them. I was like, you guys don't have anything else that I can possibly drink here?

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It's like 15 years old and it's from China and it's called Marzan Smoke. I was like, I'll drink that. It was like licking a rancid piece of beef jerky. It was one of the best things I've ever sampled. Anything 15 year old in beer, even in like a super high alcohol barrel age beer, 15 years old, I don't know, man. I once had, I think it was a stone beer years ago.

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probably like a good 10 years ago. I think it was a stone special release and it was something

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some smoked beer and I don't even remember what it was but it was it was like an it was like drinking an

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ashtray. It was really like one of the most unpleasant and I love smoked beers don't get me wrong but they why thank you went wrong not only with the smoke but in the the black malts it was so burnt and just like ashtray. If you if you if you put in too much

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black malt in the smoked beer it will because the literally all that black especially if it's just black if it's just black barley if it's just roasted barley and it's not even malted and then it has that acritic flavor that you put in the stout and you just add that to the smoke yet exactly um it's going to take like a taste like an ashtray yeah have you ever done any brain adam uh i have not no and you know what i've never aspired to because um i i don't know like i'd rather just

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I'd rather drink beer by people that really are passionate about it and know about it. I've just never wanted to. I don't know. I only ask just because you're so familiar with the process and everything, which stands to reason. So it's interesting. I'm nerdy about reading. I mean, I'm fascinated by the process, obviously. My wife got me the Oxford Dictionary of Beer, whatever it's called. Oh, did Garrett Oliver make that?

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Yeah, and I'll just sit there and read through it just because I want to gain more brewing knowledge. I'm fascinated by it. I love just knowing about it. It's an incredible process, and there's just so much to learn and know. So yeah, I'm just fascinated. I'm the same way with metal, too. I can just read any metal history book I can pick up, and I just want to know more and more about it. So yeah.

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No, it says something about your level of obsession, though, because I think that's true for a lot of metal guys. That's true. Any number of people who are not musicians can really comment on the production of an album and what processes might have gone right or wrong in the production of an album and yet have no idea how to produce an album themselves. That's us every episode. That's us every episode, and it's just the sheer love for the thing. Yeah, totally. Yeah.

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I like talking to brewers and interviewing brewers and talking to musicians and interviewing musicians. You know, and most journalists are this way. They're curious, right? They want to know more. They want to learn more. And, you know, those are two things that I'm super passionate about and curious about and always want to learn more about. And I love talking to musicians and hearing about, you know, what they're doing in the studio or, you know, just things like that.

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Even though, as you said, I couldn't, I wouldn't know my way around the studio, at least not a modern studio, but I'm fascinated to sort of hear the process about how they go about making these records and stuff. And plus you get free beer. So that's always nice. Cheers to that. Yeah. So we've been lax. We usually pretty early on when we have a guest, we say, what are you drinking? So Adam, what are you drinking? I am drinking. So I'm sorry. I apologize.

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the Canadian Brewing Industry for taking a few shots there, but I am drinking a Canadian beer. Cobra Clutch, which is a double IPA, and it's by Parallel 49, who when they first started years ago, I was not a fan, but I think they brew really good IPAs now and some other beers as well. This beer is called Cobra Clutch, and it has a Cobra on it, and I think what they're talking

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about it seems like kind of metal because it's got like a cobra on it but the clutch part is basically a purse you can see the cobra is carrying a little clutch and i just realized that today i was like why is this called cobra clutch and then i looked at the cobra carrying a purse and i guess that's it but i don't know what any of this means so so wasn't that adam are you referencing the fact that the band clutch could be kind of metal wasn't that sergeant slaughters i don't think he is i think he was saying there's

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I think he mentioned clutch in a purse is what he mentioned.

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Yes.

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I think that knows what it is.

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Yeah.

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What was that?

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Isn't the Cobra clutch Sardis Lauders finishing move in wrestling?

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Pro wrestling?

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I have no idea.

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I could very well be.

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I was looking at either wrestling or the karate kid, but that may be Cobra Kai.

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Cobra Kai.

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Come on.

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One of those guys just died.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Put him in a body bag.

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So that's what I'm drinking. I don't know what the Cobra Clutch means, but I like Cobras and I like the band Clutch. And it's a fine double IPA. So yes, what are you going to drink? Adam, would you say Cobra Clutch is a metal band or not a metal band? Am I stepping into some... Yes, you are. Stepping in something. There's definitely a right answer. There's a right answer. It's not metal.

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I'm going to say that I don't think that Clutch is really a metal band, but they wade in those waters.

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They still rock.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I tour with other metal bands, but I don't know.

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I would say they're more sort of like a hard rock band.

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I don't know.

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You just clutched Will's heart like a cobra. This all goes back to the fact that Will put them as, was it even your number one? It was my number one. Number one metal album of the year. And we were like, no. Well, now I wouldn't go so far to do that. You know, Will, if you think it's metal, good for you. It's fine. You know, whatever. It's a gray area. I would be okay if someone did that. But if I was saying, you know.

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I don't know that I would necessarily say that they're a metal band.

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But, you know, I think I think we can use Adam's soundbite there.

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If we think it's metal, it's good enough for us.

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We are so metal that anything we say is metal is metal.

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And every time every time John says Opech is metal, like, well, you know, it's metal if you think it is metal.

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And then every time Will says Clutch is metal, they're not really metal.

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It used to be Clutch versus Cannibal Corpse for some fucking reason. I don't know what it was. Hey, Marcus, what are you drinking? I'm drinking beer. I'm drinking mead because I always start with the mead. Freya's Kiss. I had that recently. Brimminghorn. I think this is an exclusive. Adam, when you were at the

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I swear I had that there.

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Have Brimminghorn?

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I said it was an exclusive, George.

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You probably had it.

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Adam, when you were at the Duskwood Meadow and Beer Fest,

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actually, Brimminghorn was there this last year.

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Last year.

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You were there.

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Yeah.

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No, I wasn't there.

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But have you ever had a Brimminghorn Mead from Milton Deliver?

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Yeah, yeah.

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I had the one they did with Immolation.

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Was it Immolation?

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Oh, the Goat's Blood.

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Yeah, Goat's Blood, yeah.

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Oh, my God.

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That was good.

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Was that the best thing to ever touch your lips and go into your stomach ever in your life? It was really good. Yeah. Yeah. I totally love that. Yeah. Those guys are awesome. I wish I could get more of their mead. But yeah. I know some people. Yeah. We all know some people who know some people. We know them. We know them. Yeah. I hate

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And I wrote about it, you know, in one of my columns, obviously. So, but, you know, it's one of those things where you try it and you're like, oh, my God, that's so great. I want more, but I don't want to go, hey, guys, can you send me some more? But, you know. Ask us. All right. Hey, Will, what are you drinking? Oh, I have. Got to finish this. Yeah, sorry. I have the Drute Theory Black Celebration Imperial Porter 9.99%. Or if you flip it around this way, it's 66.6%.

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which I'm pretty sure it's just 9.99%. Yeah, that's what I got. Anybody else? Matt? I've got 3DH, which is a triple dry hop, triple IPA from Surly. It's lovely. Oh, nice. Also, Will, I think you and I should start a band, and I think we should call it Cannibal Clutch. I can kind of play the guitar. We call it Death Rock.

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You can carry little purses made out of people's flesh. Yes! Clutch purse. So am I the only person drinking a beer from the Bird of Truth Guide to Extreme Beers right now? Yeah. I tried to pull that off. You're so metal, John. So I'm drinking Zucaba. Oh, actually, I finished it already, but. Nice. Yeah. Oh, Firestone Walker. That stuff's like water. It's so good. George, what are you drinking?

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I am drinking something from Evil Twin Brewing, which I don't, that always makes me think of Anthrax. I don't know if it's related. Not at all. Not at all. Okay, good. And it's called Even More Jesus Bourbon Maple Syrup Barrel Aged Imperial Stout. Do you know Even More Jesus was in the Brewed Truth Guide to Extreme Beers? Oh, yeah. Now the version you have may not have been. No, but it's close enough. It's a descendant.

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Let's ask John. He would know. Well, it's whatever the book says. What does the good book say? But as Will and I have found out over time, you can make exceptions because some of these beers are hard to get. So I think it more than qualifies. There were two different ones. There was a tuxedo, even more Jesus tuxedo version, but I wanted the maple. Will, didn't we have, is that the one that we had that had the Spanish? We had Apun Mas Jesus.

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Yeah, I've had that. I'm surprised so much of that is I don't tend to find the stuff you guys do sometimes, but I've had most of the Jesus ones and I had that. No, it's got the Mexican chocolate, Mexican hot chocolate taste to it or whatever you call it. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good one. You know, I got my local beer store. Well, one of them, the one that I'm going to now, until recently, you walked in there and they were poorly stocked and they mostly just had like, you know, Budweiser.

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and Miller and Michelob and things like that. And any sort of craft beer was few and far between. Hey, George, don't you work near one of the best beer stores in Maryland? Yeah, but I wasn't there this week. I don't work there on the weekend. And I went today. Get your car and drive down there. So anyway, recently, they just had this like craft beer resurgence there. It's like they have so much that it's literally stacked in the aisles. And like there's I was.

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I was in there today and I'm looking at it and I'm like okay there's like so much here that it's like the cans are just stacked up and like each level is a different beer from a different brewer there's no way to possibly read and see all of the beers in here there's too much craft beer now be careful there could be some shelf turds in there and like yeah if I had a guest I got a new beer director and every other one is a droid theory like now that they're canning that shit is everywhere not that it's shit I like

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stuff. But I had to wonder today if the metal beer had perhaps possibly jumped the shark now because Elysian Brewing released a Def Leppard Pale Ale. Yeah, I've had it. Is it good? It's not a metal beer. Does it make you hysterical? I appreciate Def Leppard because it's a gateway. It's like a gateway band. Pyromania is an amazing album and so is the previous two. Strangely enough, when I drank it, I ended up pouring some sugar.

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I don't know why. Was it brown sugar? I thought that was an everyday. Yes. Yes to all of the above. But still. Hey, has everyone else said what they're drinking? I don't want to step on anyone's toes here. I think so. I have the even more Jesus bourbon maple syrup barrel aged imperial stout. So we said it's almost a brutal truth beer. Yes. Nice. Yeah.

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The one thing I want to make sure that I mention here before I'm probably another 10 minutes away from taking off or so is just a little more detail about my proposed new book. Yes, and we want you to tell all our listeners exactly how to preorder the book, how many books you need to order, the deal with Ink Share, and

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how close you are, because the whole point of this is to promote what we consider will be the revised version of the Bible. This is like the Old Testament and the New Testament. Yes, exactly. In a way, it's kind of like a prequel and also, I don't know, because the columns that are in this, there are a lot of them that predate my book, and then there are obviously

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some that a lot of them that came afterwards but um the situation is this is i'm i uh

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basically had this idea to do this book for years but the publishing industry is um really tricky

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right now as is like all print whether it be magazines or whatever it's um it's shifting let's put it that way

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And, you know, it's a very, my book and, you know, what I write about, it's very niche, which is good in a lot of ways. But it's also sort of like if someone's, if a publisher's thinking, well, we want the next New York Times bestseller, they're not going to be looking to me to write about craft beer and metal. So I'm forced to sort of like take different approach, look at a different approach.

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I didn't want to do a straight up self-publishing because I think a lot of times those books end up looking a little immature-ish and then you know the onus to distribute it lies solely with the the writer and all that so a friend who's in the publishing industry tipped me off to ink shares and what their situation is they're a publisher but they basically and they'll work with you but they sort of want they want to feel like that they're going to sell some books and

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So they sort of asked the authors to get pre-sales.

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And I have to get a pre-sale goal of 750 copies.

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I basically have to have 750 people committed to purchasing this book.

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So then if I reach that goal, that triggers them to then basically sign me on to publish my book.

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And then at that point, they're a proper publisher at that point.

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So Adam, let me ask you this. I know it's a collection of your previous columns. So is the book already written or are you waiting for the InkShares 750 goal to then start accumulating all the articles together, writing the previews? Or not the previews, but the forwards and all that stuff and updates to all the articles. So what is the process right now?

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It's pretty much written in the sense that I've collected all the various columns together. I'm in the process of doing the revising and updating, all that sort of stuff. So the ink shares thing really quickly just works. So you have basically 90 days. And so that's going to be the end of November, sort of like my 90 days.

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So my plan is to have it all, like basically have the manuscript ready to go, whether or not I meet my goal. Because at that point, I'm just going to like look for, you know, plan B, C, whatever.

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Yeah, so I was going to ask you, what is the plan B and C if you don't get the goal in InkShares? And how close are you to the 750? And how much can we browbeat our listeners to get that?

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Because we will knock on our doors and beat them up. Do it. Do it now. We're a ways away from it. I think I'm about a tenth of the way there. But the fact of the matter is that I can only really – I know I'm only going to really get so much from the sort of the metal side of things. What I really need is I need to reach beyond that. And that's been sort of the tricky thing right now because I'm super well connected.

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in the metal world. And I've had Decibel and Metal Sucks and other people sort of publicize it. And, you know, I've been publicizing it through my own channels, social media. But I really need to reach beyond that. And I need to just get, like, people who aren't familiar with my column necessarily to sort of, and who are, but are interested in craft beer to find out about this. And I'm not necessarily, obviously, more metal heads is great.

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I think the key is going to really be to reach sort of a broader audience, which is what I'm continuing to work on. I'm basically, you know, I'm just trying to get the word out through as many different outlets as possible. And just before I forget, the way that if people are listening to this and they're interested, the way that they can find out more about it and preorder is simply to go to a website that I've set up that is just,

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That's B-R-E-W-T-A-L-Truth.com.

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And there, there will be a link where you can click and pre-order. And as I said, there's a little bit, it's a very simple website. It'll give you a little bit of information about, you know, what the book is about, like what we've discussed here. And then it'll lead you to a link where you can,

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go ahead and order it if you're interested.

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So, yeah, I mean, that's basically the gist of it.

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And I'm just trying to get the word out and just let people know how this is all going to work.

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And the plan B part of it is I'm hoping, so I do know some, I do have some contacts in the publishing industry.

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So my point, my plan is to sort of once the, if I don't reach my goal, then I'm going to have basically a ready manuscript. And I'm going to go to some of the people that I know, they're sort of small publishers, niche publishers, and just say, look, you know, I've got this finished manuscript ready to go. Let's sign, you know, very friendly, you know, basically nothing that the publisher will,

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have to do not a whole lot. As long as they're willing to distribute it,

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they won't have to invest a lot. Let's put it that way.

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So that's what I'm going to look at. And hopefully the fact that I'm raising the profile of this project by doing the Inkshares thing,

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even if it doesn't work out, I will hopefully have caught some people's eyes along the way.

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And I'll find another publisher to hopefully take it on. So hopeful and confident that it'll get done. Well, I want you to know I did my part. And I chose the get your name in the book option. And I want you to know that if that happens, I want my name to be Jack Mihoff in it. It will all be thinking of names. I definitely have all of you who have helped me out with it. I really appreciate that. Every time someone orders, I

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I see.

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And so it's been really encouraging.

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And I've seen you guys help out with the social media stuff as well.

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So I appreciate that.

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And I'm working my butt off to get it taken care of, to get it done, to meet that goal.

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But as I said, if I don't, I'm still hopeful that it'll find its way out in 2020.

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It's in one way or another.

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That's my goal.

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So Adam, if you don't reach your goal, I'm a man of particular set of skills. Fellatio. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That is skill number five. That's number five. I want to know the first four. You know, Liam Neeson, Taken. I have a particular set of skills. Yeah, yeah, I got that. We know, Will. We know. I just wanted to know where you were going with that.

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Is this taken four? If anyone doesn't know what I used to do in a former life. Well, yeah. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Anything you can do, whatever your skills, you know, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm open to any, to receive any sort of forms of assistance that you can provide, you know, and, and yeah

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a place near them? Have you gotten like maybe somebody big in metal could do a Ford or something for it too? Have you thought about that stuff at all, Adam? So Adam, when you say you're going to update stuff, like I know I was in one of the columns with John. He's going to edit you out. John was in one of the columns. John the DJ. So are you going to reach back to like many of the breweries or the people in the columns to like? Of course. Yeah.

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So it's not completely written yet. Once you reach your goal, then you will go forth and you will update stuff for each column if need be. Yes. Yeah. And that's, as I say, that's sort of what I'm in the process of doing right now. I'm going through them and kind of assessing what needs to be revised and updated and stuff like that. Now, there will be some that I may not do anything to, but, you know, I'm definitely going to,

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look at each one and just see where I can add a little bit of content. Hopefully a little bit to every single one. But I don't really know at this point. But that's my intention. I don't want to monkey with every single one just for the sake of doing that. But in certain cases where it makes sense, I'll definitely do that.

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that one alone. But then secondarily, as to Markisan's suggestion, I'm just spitballing here. Maybe James Hetfield could write the phone. Yes, I should have gotten to him a week ago. A week ago. Nice check. Yeah. That'll be a news item later. And it will be a news item later, about which I'm shocked and I feel bad for the guy. Yeah. I don't feel bad for him. He's James Hetfield. Yeah, you're right. Good point. I mean, I respect him and I'm a big fan.

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And more so than anybody else on this podcast. But... Jay feels so bad for him that he takes a shot at him. I do. Takes a shot with him. As I said that, I felt bad. But I was like, fuck it. That looks like we're doing it. So, Adam, I know we're going up on your time limit. But... So, the website to pre-order the book on InkShares is... Go to BrutalTruth.com.

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So it's B-R-E-W, not B-R-U-T-A-L, B-R-E-W-T-A-L, truth.com, like brew, like brewbeer.com. Go to that website. If

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a bunch of guys who drink beer. Old guys drink beer. Listen to metal. If this is you should be preordering like multiple copies of this book at this point. If you're listening to this right now. I do. Yeah. Awesome. Multiple copies because I want my name on the back of the book. I don't care how small it is. I want my name. I've expended many brain cells and liver counts for that book. We're on it.

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Well, I appreciate it. It's been awesome talking with you guys. This is a lot of fun. Anytime you want to connect again via Skype or whatever, I'm down with it. It's always great to see you guys and chat with you guys and be part of this because this is my favorite podcast. It's pretty exciting for me to be part of it. You just came out to be a liar. We'll also look forward to seeing you face-to-face at one of the next decibels or something. Absolutely. Which I'm sure we will.

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I want to go to Dark Lord Day this year. That's sort of my plan. I think I'm going to go to Dark Lord Day in May this year as my sort of like craft beer getaway. So if any of you guys feel like venturing out to Indiana, it'd be great to see you there. I was going to say the one person who probably will definitely be there is Markisan, but he's moving to Hawaii. Yeah, I've been to many a Dark Lord. I live in Chicago. So yeah, that's basically a suburb. Yeah, Chicago. So but yeah, I won't be there because I'll be in.

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Hawaii. Indiana is the suburb of Chicago? Yes. Do they have a band play for that? They always have bands playing. Oh yeah. Good bands. Bands we like. Bands we know. Opetuary, Pig Destroyer. Yeah. Honestly, that's one of the drunkest events I think I've ever been to. It's crazy.

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I was when I went 2014 maybe. You were there as like a vendor to sell the book, right? Yeah, yes. And I was staying in Chicago and I took one of the shuttles, which is obviously a good way to go, from downtown Chicago down to the festival. And as soon as we hit the road, people pulled open their backpacks and were cracking like the whales. They had these incredible beers.

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And I was just like, it was 10 in the morning. And I was like, you guys got to pace yourselves here. Well, that's the fun part about it is that everybody brings rare beers and they just share with everybody in trade and stuff. You're waiting in line so long that you just get hammered. Oh my God. Yes. Everyone was hammered. And I, the other thing I loved was like, you're walking up to the, well, actually it was more when you're walking away from the festival on this one road, they've just, people just line the road with the,

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the dead soldiers, you know, of bottles. And it's amazing what people bring there, honestly. And everyone shares. Like, you can just, you wouldn't have to purchase a single beer while you're there. And you could just drink some of the best beers you've ever had in your life. It's crazy. Yeah, it's nuts. Not just beer mead, because I brought my homemade mead. I got a lot of people pretty hammered. Oh, yeah. Over the years with that. Yeah, totally. Well, that's too bad you won't be there this year. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I

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I was looking forward to it. The Three Floyds guys are some of my favorites. I'm excited to be back there again. I think they've started doing it in May now because the weather in the past has been a little bit sketchy in April. I don't know if that's the main reason, but I think it's going to be mid-May in 2020. When we were at the Decimal Middle and Beer Fest in Philly, we were staying in the same hotel room with the Three Floyds guy. In the same room? Yes. Literally. I was a big spoon.

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But just sitting outside the hotel and just talking to three floor guys. Some of the most nicest down-the-earth guys who just love metal. Totally. It was my yin and yang, I guess, from what I do at Atlas. Which I have to say, we have more metal shows than any brewery in the United States. I know. I see that on Twitter all the time. That's pretty amazing.

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Yeah, we are. And this coming week, we have Mismore and Hell. Nice. Yeah. Can we just say world or like universe? Metal shows in the fucking universe? You will never know it from our outside aesthetics, but by God, we have the craziest metal shows. That's what makes it better, Will. I know. Yeah, it really does. It's like you leave the wonderful confines of the cemetery across the street.

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And walk into an awesome metal venue. Well, Matt made a good point, though, because I bet you put on more metal shows than any other place. Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do. DC Metal Chris wrote an article about that. Yeah, I mean, I'm being a dickhead, but I'm actually serious. You're being bitchy. That's being bitchy. I am actually not bitchy on this topic, but yeah, I'm bitchy. Adam, I know you need to go. Yeah, I got to run, guys, but it's been awesome. Thank you. Thank you so much. So much. Good luck with the book. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thanks, brother. Peace. Bye-bye. So, um... And then they were thoughtful for a moment. Okay. Is this goodbye? What do you do after the company leaves? Take off your pants. Go on for the show. I can tell you, that was an hour interview. That's shocking. Shocking. That just felt really fast. Yeah. It's weird because that was a full hour and it felt super short, right? Yeah. But I also like how quiet we were when we left.

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because we all realized we don't really like each other we need a guest to keep

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here we are alone does anybody have a topic i'm not editing this out by the way

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good oh this is perfect stuff yeah yeah this is the kind of stuff i would tune in for exactly

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can i can i i know we we ran out of time with adam but can i share my one bad beer story from like 15

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years ago so i was at a brewery called fickers in duluth and i was probably 23 so i was you

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A few years into my drinking, legal drinking age.

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So it was more like 17 years ago.

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Legal drinking age.

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Well, we won't get into details, but I was there and I ordered this beer called Wildfire.

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And the person brought it to the table and I took a sip and I was like, oh my Christ, what is this?

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This is fucking terrible.

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It tastes like my ass.

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Yeah.

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She came back and just like, oh yeah, no, that's, I said something, is something wrong with the beer?

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She's like, no, that's what it's supposed to taste like.

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It was a habanero infused.

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I don't remember what kind of ale it was but years later once I actually got my head out of my ass I've had it it's fucking phenomenal I would recommend it if you're ever in Duluth but I was I was that guy like oh there's got to be something a long time ago I can't tell you how many beers that I have shit on in the past and bands for that matter that then years later I was like oh yeah that's good I mean I'll tell I'll tell mine too Will sent me one one time and I think something went wrong with it to be honest with you like it was in the

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Bottle Too Long or something, but it was that blood and guts sour, the free will thing. You know what I'm talking about? Which might be why you sent it to me, Will. It was a sour and it had a chainsaw on the front cover. It was so pungent and stuff that I just, I would take a drink and I'd be like, what am I not getting here? And finally it's just like, no, I can't do it. But I mean, it was a very kind gift. You sent it with a bunch of other stuff, but it was funny because this is the last one, I think, out of the bunch too.

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I was just like for some reason that felt like you know the grand hurrah it seemed like a practical joke it was so bad that's like drinking one of my beers so yeah free will is a brewery right in my hometown I mean like literally I used to ride my BMX bike and my skateboard right where the brewery is a block away from my house no they make excellent beer it just may be that early on their their sours were not as excellent it put me off sours for a long time in fact it was believe it or not

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That was the first one I ever had. And I was just like, this is what sour is about. But it might have also just been too old or something was on a shelf. I'm over sour. I'm not a sour fan. Every sour, I taste like something's wrong with it. I mean, my favorite sour tastes like sweaty gym socks to me. Well, you guys understand, like, if you make a, so technically speaking, when you make a sour beer, it's either infected with wild yeast or it's infected with,

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Bacteria that can actually tolerate alcohol, low pH, and breathe carbon dioxide. So you're drinking yeast in effect. Pediococcus and lactobacillus are the two bacterias that when they reproduce, they will produce acid, which makes it sour. So some breweries actually inoculate their beer on purpose with either lactobacillus or Pediococcus bacteria.

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But it will not kill you. No matter how bad the beer is, it will not kill you. Or make you sick. Well, that's a relief. No, I just think that's a good place to start with any brew pub or brewery. First, let's get a beer that doesn't kill anybody. And we'll go from there. That's your foundation. We're shooting low. My first sour was Pentagram by Surly. So it was Todd's creation.

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This is quite a while ago. I mean, I was very spoiled to have that be my first. You're spoiled to be nearly, period. Well, that too. But yeah, I definitely do not gravitate towards them. And for me, it's usually a one and done when I do. Pentagram is, I think that's, I want to say that's purely a, it's the yeast that makes it sour. So I think it's a bread and myc's yeast, which makes it just a hint of sour. And when you use bread and myc's yeast as a souring agent, I can withstand it.

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When they use the breadomyces on top of the P.D.

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Coccus electobacillus bacteria, which makes it super extra sour, then I'm like, I'm done.

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I can't do this.

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Mm-hmm.

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Wow.

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Mm-hmm.

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I want that whole sound.

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I just want what Will just said right now.

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I just want that entire sound bite just for my cell phone ring.

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Yeah.

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And just personally.

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Yeah, because he's crazy sexy when he talks beer.

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I'm a total tard on this podcast.

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I don't know what it is well it's like

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what do you call it it's like

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idiot savant you know what I mean

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you can't do anything at all

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but you drop up a box of matches

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and it's like that's 105 matches

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and four about the light right now

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should we I don't know get into the rest of the podcast

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yeah let's go

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let's do the news then

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So the first news item is not a happy one. Richard Brunel of Morbid Angel died a couple days ago at the age of 55. Do we know how he died? I have not seen anything about that. But he was on the first two.

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Morbid Angel albums? The two best ones? Yes. Yep. Yeah, and he's battled drug addiction for a long time. He's even jailed for it, so he's only 55. Yeah, he's only 55, but he's had a lot of interviews where he's talked about how hard it was for him to come out of that hole. So they haven't said a cause of death, and I guess I should not assume, but that might be a leading candidate for it. Well, if nothing else, it was hard on his body for years and years and years, and so even if it wasn't, you know,

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on drugs. He probably had a, you know, his system was not in great shape. And yet Bobby Liebling continues to live. Indeed. Right? Just kind of like Ozzie. And Keith Richards. And Keith Richards, yeah. There's not always a rhyme or reason to it, you know? Of course not. They're all amateurs compared to David Crosby. You know what I always find interesting when we put the ages next to these people is like, okay, well, he's only nine years older than me. And when you think about,

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back in your teenage years, like, okay, you're 15. Like, the people who are doing these things are like, okay, you're 26 years old making this incredible music and I'm 15. Like, they're not that much older than you. And I guess it gets, the age gap gets less as you get older. But it's like, wow, he's only 55. I worship him. When I was a teenager, I worshiped this guy. There's a couple things about it too, though. I think one is like when you mentioned Keith Richards,

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and Aussie, they've also got millions and millions of dollars and people looking out for them. And, you know, good health care and all that kind of shit. This guy probably was working construction or something. But also secondarily, like we're reaching a tipping point now. We're going to start to lose. And we've said this before, but we're there now. People, we're going to start losing guys every year. Guys we care about. Guys we like and bands we like. Hopefully we're not going to lose Biff Byford soon. Which is why I said what I said. Go ahead.

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Yeah, he just apparently had triple bypass. So who is Biff Byford? Oh, come on, dude. You're going to get kicked off of this podcast. I have to say, I've never heard of this person, but there may be people like me who've never heard of this person. Oh, you know who he is. Yeah, you know who he is. If you don't know who Saxon is, or Saxon, as Jay would say. Big singer Saxon. Yeah, I've heard Saxon, and I've never listened to a single song they've ever wrote. No, you have. You just don't know you have. But I'll say this.

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68 and a triple bypass as George points out. I'm telling you that I think to recover from that, he's going to be pushing 70 pretty hard if and when he comes back. That's my whole point. We're going to start to lose a bunch of these guys. Like Rick Ocasek. Rick Ocasek, we just lost from the cars. It was like right after he had surgery. Oh, I didn't know he had just had surgery. He was home recovering and boom, dead. He was in his 70s too, I think. He was 75, yeah. The thing about Biff that's crazy is George and

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I just saw him what a year and a half ago and he was moving around on stage like nothing oh yeah like it was I saw him this summer yeah he's he's been so I just it happens unfortunately yeah but I'll say this too the other thing though is like a lot of these guys in sex and is would be honestly one of them they're not they're not in an Iron Maiden level or anything and so these guys are eating in diners and you know on tour and Hot Pockets and all the shit that's just bad for you and it's just over the years

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They're on the road all the time. To make money. They have to, yeah, to support themselves. And so they're eating shit food all the time. And, you know, it's just, and he's stuck on that bus, not getting any exercise for hours at a time and stuff. It's a bad lifestyle. It really is. And, and, you know, he's fucking 70. All right. Well, not quite as bad, but not good. Metallica had to cancel some shows because James Hetfield has gone.

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back into rehab. We don't know what for, but alcohol is probably a good guess because that's what put him back in there. Back in what was it? 2003 when some kind of monster came out? Something like that. But he actually, if you read some of the interviews since then, it was actually pills and booze. He was apparently doing pills because he, you know, back pain and stuff as happens or whatever it is. I personally, and I'm the one who took a shot at him a few minutes ago. I'm sure. I was shocked by

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Yeah.

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Because you watch him interviewed anywhere, man. And he, that's his sobriety almost always comes up. And it's, there's like this confidence underneath it and how hard he's working. And he doesn't, he never sounds like he's on edge. It's just sort of like, yeah, I'm glad I left that shit behind. So this was a big surprise.

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Yeah. I mean, he literally had straight edge tattoos done because he was so committed to this. So it's unfortunate. I mean, surprise, but you know, it happens. So, you know, I mean, James Hetfield has, it has been,

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and remains one of my all-time biggest heroes. And so, obviously, I hope he's going to get better soon. I was actually surprised when they started releasing the blackened whiskey and the enter the night beer and all that. That's a good point. I wondered, maybe that was a mistake. I don't know, because they're around it all the time, right? I don't know if that maybe contributed to it. He's like, you know, I was doing well and then product testing. Yep.

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Well, interesting. We'll see what happens. But that puts him on a commission for a while. Because if he went back to the place he was at before, he was shut down for six months or something. And again, not to make light of it, because I respect what he's doing. But did you see the, it's like an Onion, Hard Times kind of article that said that Adam Lambert is going to be taking over as the singer.

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I was just thinking we get some kind of monster part two

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it was like you know Lars tried a bunch of people like Snoop Dogg and all these people and

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nobody worked out and he's like but we got Adam Lambert he like sucked so hard in Queen that we just had to have him in

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which is completely false because I just saw them recently and he was amazing but it's still pretty damn funny

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Yeah, no, I hadn't seen that. That's good. It wasn't really in the Onion, or you just meant Onion-esque? It was one of those type sites. It wasn't Onion, and it wasn't Hard Times. I think that's the other one, but it was something else. But it was an obvious, you know, tongue-in-cheap kind of way. Are you guys talking about James Hetfield? Indeed, sir. Where have you been? I'm sorry. I went upstairs to grab myself a beer. I need to do that. I don't really have much of a comment, except that Metallica sucks right now. Well, we all just sort of registered.

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I sort of thought he was on top of it. But no. Apparently not. Maybe the next album would be great. No, it won't. I give up on that bit. I have not. I like the last album. I'm going on record. Screw you guys. And I love you for it, George. As long as it's not Saint Anger or

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Or Reload. I'm good. That's probably the next thing, actually. Even my children. I want to interview my children on here, and they will tell you that the only good albums that Mataka put out is the first four albums. That's only because you told them that. Well, because they're smart, and they listen. It's like they learn these things at home. Yeah, indeed.

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Right? Exactly. Yeah. And I teach them the right things. I love that commercial, Matt. I know. I love it. It's awesome. Where did you get this? Where did you learn how to use this? I learned about it. Are you okay, Dad? So speaking to kids in metal, last week was my birthday. Happy birthday. Thank you. My wife took the kids to our local record store. I don't know why, because it's definitely not a place for children. But the three of them together, my wife picked out the new chemist album. My son.

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Picked Out a Megadeth album. And my daughter picked out something else. And honestly, I was like... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, no. What was the something else? It was good. It was legit. I can't remember what it was off the top of my head. It wasn't that good. I was starting to cry. I was so happy. Because then I was like, I want to get an Iron Maiden patch for my karate gi. And I'm like, you guys need to stop because I'm getting all homework on you. Anyways, they ended up getting me a gift card because they couldn't decide and they were stressed out. And I was like, I have the best family in the world.

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I feel like last year. So they got you all those albums and then they got you a gift card? So they each picked out an album and they couldn't decide which one to go with, you know? And so my wife was like, so what, my wife asked, which one would you have gone with? I was like, probably the chemist in this case. It's like, all right, cool. But I'm totally cool with a gift card because that means I can go and buy whatever I want. But like, it's not like they just picked out junk. So I was very impressed. Awesome. The third album was a vinyl edition of Baby Shark. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

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That's totally a Nats thing. Did you see that recently? It's weird. The Nats and the Baby Shark thing? Yes. Washington Nationals, by the way, for anybody not in the D.C. area. But everybody does the Tomahawk, too. I was just in Atlanta and I saw the Tomahawk. Thank you very much. Yeah, but you saw it in Atlanta.

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I see other teams doing it now. Somebody did a metal version of that too. I would say that you were in extremely good company because my daughter, above her bed, is a giant tapestry hung above her bed that was probably five feet wide, which is the new Chemist Absolution album cover in tapestry above my body. I got that when Chemist came to DC. I got that.

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And I got the last album. This is a tough question, but they were selling them, you mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were selling them. In fact, both my kids sleep in chemists' women's extra small shirts. Yeah, they sleep in that. And I have a great picture of my son in it. And then my son has the hunter.

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A.

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I mean, if they don't have that, it's a good marketing opportunity. Somebody get on the horn with Dan or somebody. Yeah, don't just hear me out before you say anything. You got a cat, right? It was funny because I was just finally, I'm so behind on our own episodes. I'm listening to the one with Ray from Immortal Bird and the Metalhead podcast. Which is now a thing. Yeah.

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I haven't put anything on there, but it's a thing. Because of that interview, Immortal Bird is going to play at Atlas in December. I thought it was November. No, just December. Something else is in November then. Anyway, awesome. Well, I hang out with Nate, so he's very excited about it too. Yeah. Although Ray is allergic to alcohol, so she's not going to really benefit from all the... She drinks. She's been drinking. Well...

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All right. Well, hopefully she's not allergic to alcohol and beer. She's been drinking beer and other things, so I don't know. All right. Might have changed again, but. All right. I hope so, because that's what we have to offer. You have water. All right. So the recent announcement of the Merciful Fate reunion was not including Michael Denner.

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He was not asked to be part of that. There's been a lot of talk about that. Has there been? He has been interviewed several times. But all he says is they didn't call him. I don't know what it's all about. It seems so strange. I thought they were on good terms, especially since he did those records with Hank Sherman. That's what he said. He's like, I just did some stuff with him. I'm kind of not sure why they didn't call me.

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And he said he found out about it two days before the reunion was announced publicly. Yeah. That's kind of crazy. It's kind of a dick move. Kind of a dick move. I have to ask him about that when I see him next month. Or next month after next month. Yeah. Right. Wait, when you see who? Oh, King Diamond. When I meet him in November. I was like, why are you going to see Michael Denner? Because hell yeah. The King. I'm meeting him. Yeah. Which, by the way, I saw, well, I think everybody saw, but there's that King Diamond beer, and it's going to be at

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certain venues, not all of the venues on tour. Hopefully. But when you, if you have VIP, get to drink a beer with King Diamond. I believe it's in Minneapolis where Matt. I'm going to cry right now. Yes, I'm pretty sure. I will, I will buy like six cases of this shit and just send it out to you guys. No matter how bad the beer is, the can, it might be great. The can. Yeah. I mean, it has to be where you are, Matt, because it's fair. Yeah. And I know Chicago, I won't be here. I'm missing King Diamond.

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because I'll be in Hawaii.

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They're going to have it.

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Yeah.

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I mean, if it's not here, it's going to be like bitchy Matt dot like state.

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We'll burn this place down.

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Yes.

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But I am excited about that.

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That's cool.

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And I was glad.

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Which one of you found out they were serving it at the VIP thing?

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It was in the press release.

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Oh, it was in the press release.

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I guess I did not read that very thoroughly, but cool.

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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Well, they'll probably bring them along.

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So they're probably just about everywhere. Yeah. That's common now, by the way. They do that with the Maiden thing and even Tool. They would do wine tastings. I mean, that's like a thing now. People are bringing their stuff along. Yeah. Well, I mean, King Diamond's going to be meeting a bunch of people. He's got to get liquored up. I don't know, man. That whole heart thing, you know? Yeah, I doubt he drinks much anymore. Did you see Maiden does that thing? Literally, they have partners in the area when they come to

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and they have bars that are serving trooper just because the show is

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tonight you know kind of thing wow yeah they had a list of them i'm sure there was some

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out by you they had a list of them out here in oakland when when it when the show was there was

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like three or four bars that did it they called it a trooper alliance or something like that nice

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serving it on town night to know that before the show but you know

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anyway i hope that they reach out to dinner and and make amends for it because i would hate for them to be

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in bad terms going forward.

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That's really strange.

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That's such a strange move.

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I wonder what it's all about.

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Yeah.

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We'll see.

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All right.

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So Slayer released the song Repentless from their motion picture.

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The Relentless Killology.

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Killogy.

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I wanted to say Killology, but it's Killogy.

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Killology.

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It's Killogy.

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There's only two L's.

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Killogy.

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Shoot.

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I couldn't afford another L's.

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So this is basically their... What was the name of the Metallica thing? Through the Never. This is kind of their Through the Never, I guess. Or Through the Sucky Abyss of No One Gets Shit. Is that the name of it? I'm sorry. You know what we could do? We could set a set. We could have a running... Where I work, we have something called a running agenda item, and it just means it's on every meeting. If you want, like, two minutes at the beginning to just take shots at Metallica, well, we could do that. And I get two minutes of rebuttal.

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And then it's Defenders of the Faith versus Stain Clay. You're right. I got an order of input here. You know what's sad is my kids. So I've talked about this. I think I've talked about this on the podcast. So I just have in my Sirius XM radio in my car, I just have all my favorite artists, my favorite songs. And in Metallica, I can't say favorite artists because it will give me all kinds of garbage songs. So I have favorite songs. Speaking of which, here's my daughter.

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Who can tell you? Evelyn.

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Anyway, Evelyn.

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You're on record.

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How many good records?

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You have to speak into the microphone.

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How many good records did Metallica make?

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How many?

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Four.

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No, unconvinced well.

01:23:38.520 --> 01:23:39.840
I don't feel like that she's answering.

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I feel like what was the last one that you'd like?

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She doesn't know.

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She doesn't shrug.

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What?

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I don't know.

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Perfect answer.

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Well, was it the Black Album? Leading the witness. Yes, I am leading the witness. She's eight, okay? You know what? She said four, okay? That's all you need to know. Brainwashed. Great to witness Will's brainwashing techniques. Yeah, that was good. That was fun to see. She's going to get to college and find out that the Black Album is okay, and she's going to be like, Dad, why didn't you tell me?

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the Black Album. No. Do you know why? Why? Because it was terrible. Okay. Have you ever heard the Metallica album called Ride the Lightning? Yeah. Have you ever heard the Metallica album Injustice for All? Yeah. Have you ever heard the Metallica album Master of Puppets? Yeah. Have you ever heard the Metallica album

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Well, not really, because if you listen to them, maybe she'd like them. Yeah. Let her live her own life. Have you ever heard the song Baby Shark? Evelyn, have you ever heard the song Baby Shark? Yeah. Do you like it? Oh. Ask her in that tone, you're not getting it. Do you like it? All right, Evelyn, how much do you like the song Baby Shark? Is this the greatest song you've ever heard? It's too late. It's too late. I mean, it's super awesome. Do you love it?

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She doesn't like it. I'd like to add to George's leading the witness and just say this whole court is out of order. Yeah. Evelyn, the other day when I asked you a Metallica song to guess what it is on the radio, do you remember what it was?

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Nope.

01:25:56.360 --> 01:25:57.160
Injustice for All.

01:25:57.210 --> 01:25:58.160
It was actually true.

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It was Injustice for All.

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I don't know if you heard that.

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No, but that's cool.

01:26:02.740 --> 01:26:09.140
We do a thing in my car where we just listen to whatever Sirius XM is playing.

01:26:10.300 --> 01:26:11.440
It's called Driving Bill.

01:26:12.580 --> 01:26:13.960
Whatever pops up on my favorite.

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Name that tune.

01:26:15.480 --> 01:26:16.700
I ask my kids.

01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:18.320
Exactly.

01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:19.360
It's Name That Tune.

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And they're getting pretty good at it. Okay. I'll give you that. Who's the singer from Iron Man? Bruce Dickens. Did you hear that? Yeah, we heard it. Who is the band? That's kind of hard. It's funny, the things that the family pick up. Tell me the different bands that Dio's been in. Dio and...

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Oh man, you know, just go get your brother in here. He knows all these. He's not an Iron Maiden. Thank you for saying Iron Maiden, but he's not an Iron Maiden. There was something recently that, uh, I think it was a movie. It was a movie we were watching and there was a song in the background and, uh, and Barb was like, that sounds like Motorhead. And she figured it out before I did. Can I say that? It was the other next words. I have never loved you more than I do at this moment. Exactly.

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I was like, you're right, that is Motorhead. By the way, the movie was Sing Street. Just saying. I'm better with the singers. I know. And I'm better with the bass. Sorry, this is super embarrassing. My daughter doesn't need to know the lead singer in my head. It's Sunday night. She's had a long weekend. She's probably tired. Your dad's a dork. That's got to be hard. All right.

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Apparently, Jimmy Page will be writing an autobiography at some point. And I believe Jay said that he would be reading that. I believe it was actually New Jersey. There you go, William. He said it. You know, he did say he's been saying he's going to record new music every year for the past five years. So I'm not going to hold my breath on this, but we'll see. I mean, he did just release that thing that was largely a photo essay book, which I did buy. I knew it was one of those ones when you go to Barnes & Noble and I'm like, this is going to be about

01:28:19.380 --> 01:28:49.280
40 feet over there in about two months here. And what I mean is it's going to be in that place where everything's 10 bucks. Indeed it was. And so I bought it for them. It's actually a cool book. And I want to get that one Led Zeppelin on Led Zeppelin that came out, but I'm waiting for it to show up over there. Did you ever read Hammer of the Gods? Oh yeah. Yeah. He mentioned that he plans to write it first and then go to a publisher so that he doesn't have a deadline looming over him. So, I mean, that's not good.

01:28:49.360 --> 01:29:19.340
Probably not a good sign. That means it's not coming out anytime soon. But I would read the hell out of that book for sure. Oh, yeah, for sure. No, totally excited about that. I mean, well, so that's a band about who much has been written, to say the least. You guys all saw that movie it was in, right? With Jack White or whatever the fuck it was called. It might get loud. Well, yeah, there's this one great scene in it that I just love and which Jimmy Page is in what appears to be his room where he keeps his records. And he's playing this

01:29:19.380 --> 01:29:48.800
Link Wray song on his, probably the original vinyl that he purchased back in like the 50s or 60s. And he's playing it and just like telling the camera, the guys in the camera, like check this out, check this out. And the sheer joy watching him do this, like you just, he was, he's you guys at that moment. You know what I mean? Like he's very like, dude, listen to this part right here. You know, it's just so fucking awesome. I love it. And I, and he is, he is one of those guys that's like that. A nerd. A nerd, yeah, but I mean. I want to tell you guys something. All right.

01:29:49.380 --> 01:30:17.540
William, who's the two best singers in Black Sabbath? Ozzie and Dio. Who's the third best singer? Who's the lead singer for Iron Maiden? He's not the third singer. It's Ian Gillen. I just said, who's the best singer in Iron Maiden? Who's better, Ozzie or Dio? Oh, that's a good question.

01:30:19.420 --> 01:30:20.780
"Lemme or God?"

01:30:21.380 --> 01:30:50.820
That's right. It's just mad. I knew it. I knew it was mad, but I knew it was not Bruce Stink and Stink. That's right. Because you would have more, you would have more hair. That's what the Stink was just now, boys. That's, yeah. How many albums did Metallica have that were good? That's right, four. What's your favorite one?

01:30:51.960 --> 01:31:21.000
Do you have a favorite one? I'm Motorhead. No. No, I'm not Motorhead. Who's the lead singer in Motorhead? Lemmy. Lemmy, that's right. All right, go brush your teeth. Go. And on that note, we move on to the next one. Close the door. Close the door. Brush your teeth. So. All right, we come back. There's a news item that says Aman Amarth released a historically accurate video for the song Shield Wall.

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Now, I watched this video today, and I didn't feel it was all that historically accurate. I mean, fucking Braveheart was more historically accurate, I think. I didn't watch it, but also I assume it doesn't have a real big budget either, I'm assuming. No, I mean, everything was shot so close in and tight, you couldn't even tell what was going on. Oh. You know? Yeah, I will 100% agree with George. I don't know what was historically accurate.

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I don't know what the actual scene or the battle was but there was nothing in that that was irremotely like historical. Hold on. Stop the presses. Will just created a word. Irremotely. I mean it's probably my favorite song on the new album. I'll give it that. It's a decent song but I don't know. I felt like saying that it was historically accurate was kind of a bullshit thing to do.

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Well, it's complete bullshit. There's no meat in it. Fair enough. It's also not much of a sales pitch. How many metal fans are like, oh, well, I don't know. Their stuff's not that historically accurate. I really don't know if I want to see them. You know what I mean? Like, okay, sure. It's a thing to do. And who's going to go and research it? Like, oh, look at this screen now. I'm on a market. Anyway, so there's a video out there.

01:32:51.380 --> 01:32:51.940
right now,

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if you've been to see Iron Maiden,

01:32:53.940 --> 01:32:55.360
particularly on this recent tour,

01:32:55.400 --> 01:32:56.280
you know that Yannick,

01:32:57.300 --> 01:32:59.460
he's a little flamboyant with the guitar.

01:33:02.360 --> 01:33:05.180
And he's always like swinging it around and stuff.

01:33:07.920 --> 01:33:11.440
And apparently on a recent show,

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I don't remember where it was.

01:33:14.060 --> 01:33:14.740
If anybody knows.

01:33:15.200 --> 01:33:15.260
Anybody?

01:33:15.460 --> 01:33:15.580
No.

01:33:16.040 --> 01:33:16.780
I think it's over,

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but you guys somewhere on the East coast,

01:33:18.080 --> 01:33:18.620
but could be making it.

01:33:18.640 --> 01:33:20.920
But he was swinging it around

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like by the headstock, I think.

01:33:23.840 --> 01:33:25.180
And he lost his grip

01:33:25.270 --> 01:33:27.580
and it went off and bonked one of the security guards.

01:33:30.280 --> 01:33:31.960
The best part of the video, though,

01:33:32.060 --> 01:33:33.720
is that as soon as he gets his guitar back,

01:33:33.770 --> 01:33:35.180
he starts swinging it again.

01:33:36.040 --> 01:33:37.080
So, fucking metal.

01:33:39.360 --> 01:33:41.900
You know, how many times have you guys seen him do that?

01:33:42.030 --> 01:33:43.800
And you've seen him do it in person and on videos

01:33:44.120 --> 01:33:45.180
where you're like, he's going to kill somebody.

01:33:45.380 --> 01:33:46.380
You're going to be like, I swear to God.

01:33:46.440 --> 01:34:15.880
He does the thing like they did in the early 90s. There was a thing where they had the guitar straps that were like apparently like stretchy or whatever and they would swing it like over their shoulder and around again. And that's what I've seen him do. And I haven't seen him. I don't know if I've seen him do this. Oh, yeah, I was closest to show this way. This is like patent. His patented move at the end is to swing that bastard around and scare the shit out of everybody. I guess it wasn't paying attention. But I've always wondered like what if Adrian wanders over there?

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They're like, don't go over there right now. So anyway, whoops. Yeah. The video's not entertaining. I watched it. Yeah, it's from far away. Yeah. No, and the guitar, it wasn't like it just like beamed somebody. It kind of floated into the audience there. Yeah, it wasn't so bad. Yeah. So if you've been paying attention to the news at all in the last week or so, you know that there's this Swedish girl. She's like 16 years old.

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Her name is Greta Thunberg.

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And she spoke at the UN recently and just trashed all the world leaders about global warming and various things of that nature.

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And shortly after, somebody took the video of her speech and they turned it into a death metal song, which is fucking hilarious.

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And it's actually put death metal on the world stage because people have been talking about it so much. And she even responded today or yesterday saying that from now on, she's only doing death metal. Well, when she even sort of, she says, well, I'm done with this whole climate thing, which I love how she refers to. But that was such an endearing move on her part, especially since she's got like Asperger's. So she's, you know, I don't know how sense of humor.

01:35:40.880 --> 01:36:10.840
works with Asperger's. Yeah. Is that literally true? Like she actually responded. Yeah. That was her response. Her actual response was, I have moved on from this climate thing. From now on, I will be doing death metal only. So I want to ask you, do you get the sense it was tongue in cheek or is it like serious? No, she was obviously joking. Yeah. Yeah. She was just being funny. No, but she could have been like, oh, a bunch of haters or whatever it was, because, you know, it's essentially a satire on the fact that she's kind of an angry

01:36:10.860 --> 01:36:11.000
Yeah.

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But I do think it was kind of done with a touch of love.

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And for her to have it, that's how you win to me in the public sphere is to just go like, yeah, that's awesome, man.

01:36:21.180 --> 01:36:21.580
You know what I mean?

01:36:21.740 --> 01:36:25.340
Like she could have done any, she could say a number of things, but instead she was like, this is fucking great.

01:36:26.320 --> 01:36:32.120
Well, she's been pretty good because Trump tweeted out something about sarcastic about how she's like, I fuck him.

01:36:32.180 --> 01:36:32.940
And then she took that.

01:36:33.460 --> 01:36:35.660
Take a fight with a 16 year old girl with ass fingers.

01:36:36.120 --> 01:36:39.740
But she took that and made it her like tagline on Twitter, which was pretty funny.

01:36:41.480 --> 01:37:10.420
I found out that the guy who did this video, his name is John Mollusk, and he's actually in a... He's in a sludge. I know. Wouldn't he be perfect for sludge? I wasn't going to say that. Or sluggage. Wow. That's awesome. Yeah, it is. It's a good video, though. It's worth it. If you haven't seen it, it's worth your time, whoever you may be. It's on our Facebook. Because it really works. It works somehow, especially right when it goes to negative...

01:37:10.460 --> 01:37:40.420
negative change in the colors yeah it's like a creator video real well i tried to show my friends and my wife and they could watch like a few seconds of it and like we prefer the original version i will say barb listen to the whole thing yeah my wife liked it yeah and uh i i loved how it would like the music would like come to a stop and she'd be like how dare you yeah it was awesome all right that's good well that's

01:37:40.440 --> 01:38:10.340
That's it for the news. Let's move on to the new releases. First up, the new Bluthaus Nord album. It's their 13th album, and it's called Hallucinogen. I barely even knew that this was coming out, and then boom, there it was. In fact, didn't somebody suggest that it was released early?

01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:39.740
It was. I think it leaked. And I think he decided to release it, the digital version, just to cut that out. Because it was live. I have to say, George, one of my earliest memories of doing this podcast, I don't know, maybe five years ago, five or six years ago. Five. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You loved this band, Blute Out Nord. Blood of the North. Endlessly. Blood of the North, yep.

01:38:40.720 --> 01:39:09.600
Yeah, no. In fact, the only white shirt in my repertoire is the Blue Dows Nord shirt that I wore to Maryland Death Fest and immediately stained yellow with sweat. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh, this album's completely different from there. Yeah, this is a lot more. It's just urine is creating from different parts of your body. It was sweat. Yellow sweat. It is what it is. I've never worn it again. That's why it's yellow. You're dehydrated and you're sweating. So you're like,

01:39:10.200 --> 01:39:12.120
You're excruciating pee

01:39:13.030 --> 01:39:14.040
out of your armpits

01:39:14.190 --> 01:39:14.320
Lovely

01:39:14.960 --> 01:39:15.080
Alright

01:39:16.020 --> 01:39:17.800
Yes, this is a different album

01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:21.780
Blue Dice Nord is all over the place

01:39:21.960 --> 01:39:23.940
It's a very avant-garde project

01:39:25.860 --> 01:39:27.500
And from album album

01:39:27.780 --> 01:39:29.500
You're never quite sure where you're going to get

01:39:29.540 --> 01:39:30.800
It's kind of a box of chocolates

01:39:32.220 --> 01:39:33.940
And also coming off of that

01:39:34.540 --> 01:39:36.400
Kind of related Jerusalem project as well

01:39:36.420 --> 01:39:36.820
Yeah, yeah

01:39:37.440 --> 01:39:39.220
But apparently he's decided

01:39:39.240 --> 01:39:41.320
that he's going to go a little more melodic.

01:39:42.300 --> 01:39:46.660
And this is a much more accessible album than like the last one.

01:39:47.720 --> 01:39:49.080
It's pretty straightforward for him.

01:39:49.180 --> 01:39:49.300
Yeah.

01:39:49.380 --> 01:39:54.780
I mean, the, the Memoria Vatusta albums are, are a little more in this line, I think.

01:39:55.440 --> 01:39:56.380
A little more melodic.

01:39:58.420 --> 01:39:59.320
But this is great.

01:39:59.500 --> 01:39:59.880
I love it.

01:40:03.180 --> 01:40:03.320
Yeah.

01:40:03.320 --> 01:40:05.960
I think it sounds definitely a little psychedelic.

01:40:06.370 --> 01:40:06.520
Yep.

01:40:06.960 --> 01:40:08.440
Even with the mushrooms on the cover too.

01:40:09.300 --> 01:40:38.300
I was just like a slug job. I hate to drop the name again in like 30 seconds later, but it kind of looked the artwork looked like it should be for that. I kind of came into this band with the 777 trilogy. This is definitely which I love, but definitely a lot darker than this hallucinogen. And well, the last album was very, very avant-garde industrial weird. I didn't really care for it. This I like a lot more.

01:40:38.620 --> 01:40:40.040
E.

01:41:08.500 --> 01:41:38.360
I used to think he was so funny when I was a kid. I love the Swedish chef. Me too. When they would come on, I'd just be like, holy shit. That's me. That was the height of comedy. But these guys are Norwegian. And if you're saying holy shit as a kid, you'd need to check your parents. I'm pretty tolerant. Okay, you got me there. But yeah, I'm sure I said like, holy cow. Holy shnikes. Whoa. But yeah, not exactly.

01:41:38.520 --> 01:42:08.480
I dig it you know it's it's like a prog black album so there's a lot of melodic stuff but there's a little bit of black stuff that's been like every album since like 1996 I know I know I know and uh I I liked it I thought it was upbeat it's powerful it's definitely good a grand scope it makes me feel like I'm soaring over an army of frost giants and Jotunheim as the sun rises yeah let's be honest don't you always pretty much feel like that I do

01:42:08.500 --> 01:42:38.420
I feel that way. Whether you're listening to music or not. I thought it was pretty cool to hear ICS Vortex's screeches on the album. He sounds pretty good. Yeah. Now that he's back to fully singing with them. So. Yeah. What Markathon said. Yeah. I think the vocals sound great on it. The production was really good on it. It got a little. The last time was really good too. Not to offend John, but it got a little proggy in the middle for me. Oh God. Not the prog. Not that I. Not that I.

01:42:38.500 --> 01:43:07.420
I mind the prog, but there just wasn't enough heavy in the middle for me. Yeah. Well, I'll give him a call and tell him George needs a little grind core thrown in there. Stop using that prog pedal. Yeah. George should start a prog band called Peeing Through My Pores. Nice. Oh, see, I was going to say he should start a grind core band called Pit Piss. Nice.

01:43:08.480 --> 01:43:36.740
He could do both, Matt. I should probably not start a band here. Absolutely. I think we should all agree on that. Did he say Piss Piss? Pit Piss. Although I like Piss Piss, too. It's like Duran Duran. Piss Piss. Next up, the new Coffins album, Beyond the Circular Demise. What is a Circular Demise, actually? Just keep going in the circle and die. I think it's a little bit like the Amon Amar Shield Wall. Yeah, yeah, a little bit.

01:43:38.500 --> 01:44:08.280
He's death band, maybe a little doom in there. It's their fifth album. And it's not bad. I think Mark is a fan. That's great. No, well, 2019 is a killer year for death metal. This is just another strong entry. I really like this band's music for years, but I think they really put it together on this album. It leans definitely more towards death than their previous albums, which were more like death doom. It's just more cohesive. It's more crushing. It's just really good album. I'm digging it.

01:44:08.320 --> 01:44:38.040
I got the vinyl for this one. Nice. Yeah, I have to say that just harking on what Markathon said in the general sense that there are so many good death metal albums this year. It's going to be a rough year for the year. I honestly have. It's going to be a rough. I consider just throwing out everything and making a top 25 death metal albums list because fuck it. I'm going to do a top 25 death metal albums. I already started it because there's enough. So I don't want to see.

01:44:38.340 --> 01:45:08.300
We'll see. If you guys thought I was bitchy at mid-year. Fucking bitchy, Matt. Ridiculous. All right. So next we have the new Cult of Luna album, A Dawn to Fear. It's a Swedish proggy post-metal band. It's their seventh album. John's just like, you're really close to being prog. I mean, that's just bullshit. Hold on, hold on. I'm going to stop. Every single one of you fucking guys

01:45:08.340 --> 01:45:37.699
here right now and the fact that i actually i listened to this and i was like wow this is really cool and i thought if you had the word luna in your band like oh this is like kuno coil like that's not luna that's been the last 15 years literally exactly i'm a fucking parker as long as those letters appear in your name when i heard this i was like well because we got the promo i was like wait do i like something john like

01:46:08.600 --> 01:46:37.660
By what? By John talking about stuff. Fuck it. Will said he loves this album. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. I do. I listen to... Listen. Where were you when we were talking about their last album when it was on everyone's lists? You're sitting in the room with us. I know, but this is what you have to... Listen. Listen. Welcome to the world of wisdom. No, actually it was an album that I liked.

01:46:37.700 --> 01:47:07.540
So you just automatically assumed it was shit. Well, yeah. If anything you say, like, oh, this is a great pickup. Terrible. I'm trying to agree with you, John. Well, John, do you want to say anything about the album? You picked it as your album of the month. Truth. You know what? Just say I heard Will likes it. Yeah. I'll be honest. I got into this band because of Will. He turned me on to them. It's a pretty good album. I probably told you about these guys.

01:47:07.720 --> 01:47:08.300
a long time ago.

01:47:09.300 --> 01:47:09.700
Yeah.

01:47:10.340 --> 01:47:10.440
Yeah.

01:47:11.780 --> 01:47:13.860
I'm sure you telepathically told me about that.

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Cause I didn't know about them 15 years ago.

01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:19.240
I love the last album too.

01:47:19.480 --> 01:47:19.940
The Mariner,

01:47:20.120 --> 01:47:20.740
but this is the,

01:47:20.800 --> 01:47:22.620
this is the heaviest record I think they've ever made.

01:47:23.500 --> 01:47:24.600
And I love it.

01:47:24.600 --> 01:47:25.200
It's dynamic.

01:47:25.460 --> 01:47:27.320
It's got killer arrangements on it.

01:47:28.340 --> 01:47:30.640
I think it's a little too long at 80 minutes.

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I would have trimmed it down a little bit,

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but it's still pretty fast.

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It does.

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Yeah, it's probably their best sense somewhere along the highway, I think.

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I agree with that.

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Yeah, it's awesome.

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Sounds like it's going to hit a bunch of lists.

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Lists.

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Lists.

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Yeah.

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Well, John said he might rank higher than his other Cult of Luna rankings, and he had Mariner pretty high, I think.

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Right, John?

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I think I looked over your lists from the past.

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I think it was in my top five or six.

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Was that 2016 when it came out?

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Yeah.

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I mean, that could be pretty high on John's list for sure.

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I don't know. I mean, does it make a difference? I just want to point out that I actually really like this. It's the first time I've ever liked anything as much as John liked anything. If that's the case, I'm just going to trash every... Tomb Wold, you're not making my list. Fuck that. You do an okay job of trashing this. You don't have to make a special exception.

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Oh, no, no. Let's just make sure this is the only album you like that I like on my list. No, no, no, no. Like, I like, I just said I like Opeth, but I blared it. Stop it. Stop. You don't. Stop. You don't like Opeth in my backyard because I like, and this is elevator music. I like that John went straight to, like, that's your mother, my mother you're talking about, mister. You sit back down. Welcome to Battle of Dicks podcast with Will and Jop.

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That story and that joke that won't fucking die. That's it. We'll just call it Opeth Easy Listening. I wouldn't call it easy, but whatever. Yes, I did. Let's move on to the next one, because the next two are wonderful. Anyway. So next new release is the new Monolorde, No Comfort. It's their fourth album. They are a Swedish stoner doom band.

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And yeah, go for it.

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So I'm not a good at this. Me neither.

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I can't listen to you guys. I don't like the vocals. The music's boring.

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I tried listening to it today and I was like, I listened to like part of one song and I was like, yeah, no.

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I like it when I like stuff you guys don't like that makes me happy somehow. I mean, I'm not saying it's gonna be on my list, but I dug it.

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It kind of,

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um,

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tonally,

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it reminded me strangely,

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John,

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of,

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uh,

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dope Lord or whoever that was,

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that band we liked.

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It reminded me of a band that plays the same chord progression over and over for 10 minutes.

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Yeah.

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They should change their name to monotone.

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Yeah.

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Are you talking about monolord or,

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or tool?

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Touche.

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I'm only now more sure that that tool record is not going to be on my list,

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With all due respect. Just what tool record. If I can give my two cents is that I agree with all of you. Is that the tool record? Super boring. And the My Lord. If you like the last two My Lord records that they put out. You'll be happy. But it's the only time I think I can ever say in my entire life that it was sort of like. Well, what have you done for me?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Seriously, like, what have you progressed since the last one? Like, it's the exact same. Good point. Yeah. Same four chords. It's not bad. It's great. It's just. All right. I hate it. All right. Well, speaking of something different. Once more into the breach. Opeth. In. Oh, that was a close reference. Once more.

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Into the Breach. Veninum.

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However you say it.

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Come on, man.

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Veninum.

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Veninum.

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Incata Veninum.

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Veninum.

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I'll take this one, with all due respect, only because we'll all say something.

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But it's my album of the month.

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And I have to say, this is a grand example of a band whom I was a fanatic of at one time

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and who wandered off into some directions I wasn't necessarily interested in going.

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I always support bands right to do that.

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It's not one of those things where I'm going to be like, fuck you, whatever.

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Metallica's a grand example. They should do whatever they want. I don't necessarily listen to it or like it, but it's fine. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong! Well, I mean, you know, they're not gonna... We're never gonna get... They probably should make whiskey when their lead singer is not... Okay, okay, fine. But this one, they injected a little... a new bit of darkness and they kind of mushed up in the best kind of way the production and then they... and he brought in a lot of his, like, weird Linda Perhack's old...

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Wicker Man kind of influences. I love this fucking record, dude. I love it. I think it's awesome. And it's super fucking heavy, no matter what anybody says. As I was telling John. It's on my list. It will be on my list. The only thing I really dislike about this album and the last few albums particularly is the fact that his vocals are buried in reverb and they sound like he is so far away from everybody else. I'm like, just put the vocals in.

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where they need to be. Take off the fucking reverb. And I'd be happy, honestly. But as the one thing that just bites my ass and I can't listen to it. Well, I would like to hear John's opinion on this statement of mine, which is we all know they took a bit of a new direction a few records ago. I feel like this is another new direction. I feel like they've wandered off in another new direction here and it agrees with me wholeheartedly. And it's not, you know, deeply dissimilar to the other last few, but I love it. Here he comes.

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I personally think they're more focused on this album and it's not deep. I told George a while back the last three they kind of deviate off the path every time they do something. Yeah. They kind of go off into areas that I'm not so big on but I think this one is a little more focused. The music's good. It's a much heavier album. Well I'll say I mean I really like the album and I think the reason you respond to it Jay is because it has better songwriting. I think it's some of the best songwriting they've done all the time and it has more energy.

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to it, I think, than the last few LPs.

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You know, the first listen, I was a few things, I'm sorry, I jumped in there, but there was a first listen, I was like, oh, okay, okay, you guys kind of get me back here. First off, the first track is inspired by Papal Vu, who I happen to fucking love. And then, and they kind of caught me in, and then it's, as is always true with them, it takes second and third listening, and I'm just like, oh, every one of these fucking songs are great. And I agree with you, the songwriting is top-notch on this one. This is going to be on my list way up my list. This is real stuff.

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But do you hear what I'm talking about? I don't, but it's... Pretty much from Heritage on, his vocals have been drenched in reverb. And they're far away. Yeah, that doesn't work. That's fine. I guess I don't see how that's just a killer when some of the stuff we listen to, the vocals literally are just absolute garbage on albums. That's true, too. Yeah, but they're clean vocals.

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Cleaned vocals should be heard. I would say this. This is my advice to people. I think any vocals should be heard. They shouldn't sound like they're in a cavern. I agree. I agree. And have the indefinite bands out there sound like they're in a fucking cavern and like Loray Caverns in Virginia or something. You like blood incantation. Yeah, and I think the vocals suck. Okay. Well, they were good there. But yeah, I wish they were well. My sales pitch on this record is listening to the song, which I mentioned on the Facebook page, Continuum, which is like my favorite song on the record.

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But the rest of them will float in behind it. And if that song does not move you, something wrong with you. That's the chorus in that song. And I'm not meaning like you guys. I mean people who are out there who haven't listened to this. He has good vocals. I have no problem with the fact that he's not doing death vocals. None whatsoever. I think he's got a great voice. My only problem is that he buries them under reverb and it's this psychedelic stupidness that I can't deal with.

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I checked out for a while you're talking about Opeth no indeed sir I do I like that they recorded the vocals in Swedish and English I like the both versions actually I think I might like the Swedish version a little bit better but it's got a different cadence a different feel to it I like that I get a little something different in each one actually it's lyrically different too but maybe they've been doing this more than I realized the last few years since I haven't been that much into the last records and it's that there's a you know Michael used to really

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just do this whole Bob Dylan it's all right mom only bleeding thing where it was just this sort of meaningful phrase after meaningful phrase that was in no way that connected to the last phrase I mean there's an actual narrative to most of the songs though how does Matt feel about it though or Matt or bitchy Matt whichever one so here's my deal I have zero issue with Opeth I like Opeth I have not actually had the chance to listen to this at all but I do look forward to hearing it and to be honest after listening to you guys talk about it I'm even more intrigued to listen to it

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And I will tell you what I think. I hear some deep purple in it. I even hear a weird little whisper of King Diamond in it in places. It's got this really spooky, dark texture to it. I like the album cover. He said something about the album cover, how King Diamond has all these album covers with houses on them and he needed to have one. It sounds like the album cover looks. Let's put it that way. All right. So we're going to move on now. We do not have a top five list this time.

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Sorry, John BT.

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But, uh, so we're going to move on to what we're listening to.

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We're going to start with Margazan.

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All right, I'm listening to Gate Creeper Deserted. I think when this cast comes out, it'll be out because it comes out like the fifth or fourth or something. On Relapse Records, I've been looking forward to this album, and it does not disappoint. I think the tracks rip pretty hard, and it gets stronger as it goes. In the No Decibel magazine, the band refers to their sound as stadium death metal, which I thought was an apt characterization. Yeah. Because they focus writing on big, catchy hooks that the audience will remember.

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And there's some really good ones on Deserted. So I'm really looking forward to hearing the songs live. Vastum, another one we got the promo for. That one will come out later in October on 20 Buckspin Records. I loved the last record, Hole Below. So this was another return I was looking forward to. A lot of cool creativity on here. They just crush your bones with these brutal, slow, chuggy riffs. I love that part of Vastum.

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I think the pit's going to go insane for those tracks. And I also have to mention the cover art. I really like the cover art for this album. It's by an artist named Lena Terpstra, and she does these abstract figurative oil paintings, and they kind of look like waves of sinew to me. So for the Vastum cover, she inverted cross-like images, and those kind of remind me of pitchforks too. So I've stared at this thing a lot. Like 10 minutes, I'm just looking at the album cover, which is cool.

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I don't always do that with art. John and I saw them at the Shadow Woods Festival a couple years ago. It's pretty cool. Awesome. I've never seen them live, so that's another one I'd like to see. Of course, I'm going to be in a hole in Hawaii. There's no metal there. The lack of metal zone. Oh my God. Ghosts of Glaciers, The Greatest Burden on Translation Loss Records. This is my favorite instrumental album of the year so far.

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And that's saying something, because we've already had Pelican, Russian Circles, Labyrintho, all those I love. They were all on my list mid-year. But the songs on this are just exceptionally well-crafted, I think. There's beautiful passages on there, really heavy parts, heavier than the other instrumental albums, I think, this year. And I picked up the vinyl for this one. I had not heard this band before this year, and I'd been spinning that a ton. So Ghost of Glaciers.

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Weeping Soars, False Confession on iVoidhanger Records. This is one of the most unique Death Doom albums I've heard. It's crushing. It's beautiful. It's daring. It has mournful violin passages on it. It has towering riffs that I love. It has these deep guttural vocals that are good guttural vocals, John, I think, on this one. And I think the musicianship on here is really great.

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and the balance of instrumentation is really incredible on this one. So I've been listening to this one a lot lately. Lunar Shadow, The Smokeless Fires. This came out a bit ago, but I just started listening to it now. It's on Cruz del Sur Records. It blends classic heavy metal and melodic death metal. So it has a lot of good dynamics and tempo variations, really good guitar work on it and spots. I wasn't sure about this album when I first put it on, but it's been growing on me.

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Car Bomb Mordial on Holy Roar Records. This is a really explosive death plus math metal artillery. It's got crazy rhythms. I keep hearing about this, but I haven't listened to this yet. What's it like? Oh, you should listen to it. The last one. Check it out. Definitely check it out. It has fucking space lasers on it, too. So it might be too progressive for you. I don't know. I like everything to a point. You know, I don't mind things that are progressive. I mean, I like a lot of the

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that are. Right. Well, it's very eccentric album, but it's heavy. So it's guaranteed to make you want to hip check. Will in a pit. Well, with a name like Car Bomb, it sounds like a hardcore band that. You know, yeah, it's not. Yeah, it's not really hardcore. It's like math metal and death metal, I would say. And it's like it's super like I want to say catchy, but not catchy in the world. Like when I think of catchy, it's not catchy. It's just like the feel of it just kind of grabs you.

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I learned them on that that documentary I think it was called why you do this and which also featured the dudes from Gojira and I think they kind of got a little bit of a little bit of yeah they they got a little bit of what's the word I'm looking for people knew of them because they went on tour with Gojira not definitely not comparison they're comparing their sound but like Gojira was an album kind of talking about it and they they were just talking about kind of their struggle and

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being a band and the rigor of it. So that's where I got tuned on to, turned on to them, which was, I think, on album number two. I think this is like number four. Yeah, definitely worth checking out. I will do that. Yeah, no, they've made a name for themselves by touring because they tour relentlessly. So yeah, I think the last, what's the last one called? Meta, maybe? The last album is really good to you. Yep, Meta. Have you seen them live? I have not seen them live. Yeah, same here. I would like to. I would like to. You know, they're just really unique.

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And then last one is Atlantean Codex, which is my album of the month, A Course of Empire on Van Records. I think, to me, this is one of the all-time great epic metal albums. It's like Maiden mixed with Manowar in a medieval cauldron, and then a dash of doom pepper was tossed into it for heat. I picked up the Lavish edition vinyl, which is really cool. It has this skull-embossed hardcover gatefold. Did you just say lavish?

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Yeah, it's called the lavish edition vinyl. So I really like it. It's badass. It's gorgeous, just like the records. And I haven't really stopped playing this record since I got it. So I had to put that on there, too. That's it. Tell me the name again. Atlantean Codex. That's the name of the band. The album's called The Course of Empire. Thank you. All right, Matt. All right, a lot of overlap.

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I will start with the Ember in the Ash, Consciousness Torn from the Void, coming out via Avant-Garde Music. Your album of the month. Yes, sir. It is an Ontario one-man metal project, also the same one man from, is it Unrequited? Yes. Yes, okay. It's an atmospheric black metal, but to me it was a little bit more lo-fi than what I normally hear, and I really dug the orchestration on it. I also did listen to Unrequited.

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this afternoon definitely enjoy that too um visceral discourse slithering evisceration uh come to us via agonia records this is a baltimore band their second full-length album i would call them brutal tech death reminded me a lot of wormed um we've been talking about a lot this week gate creeper deserted um really really good vastum or official purge also really really good crip sermon really really really good uh the runes of fading light and then

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And lastly, Carbomb, Immortal. The ruins of fading life. All right. That's all I got. Well, cool. John. We've already mentioned most of these, so I'll just go through them real quick. The Borknogger, Cult of Luna, Monolord, Opeth, Weeping Swords, I've been listening to all those. A band called Arctos, or Arctus, I'm not sure how they pronounce it. Yeah, I saw that. What's that? Beyond the Grass,

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of mortal hands. It's melodic black metal from, I think they're from Edmonton. It's not bad. And then I've been playing the one song release off the forthcoming Wilderun album called Far From Where Dreams Unfurl off the album Veil of Imagination that comes out on November 1st. Cool. All right. Will? So, the new Gatekeeper, the new Creeping Death,

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The Creeping Death. I thought you didn't like The Creeping Death. The Creeping Death is horrible production. The music is great, but the production is, holy shit, what were you fucking thinking? Am I alone in this world? No, no, I didn't like it. Emotionally, yes, but... The new Fear No Fuck, and I'm going to leave it at that. I'm done. You're done. All right. Jay. Creep Sermon.

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We're just repeating each other. Crypt Sermon, Gate Creeper, Cult of Luna, I agree with everybody else. That one's great. The Exhumed record I liked. That last one I think we all kind of liked. Death Revenge. The new Vastum. Yeah, Exhumed does what Exhumed does, but it's a good record. I'm digging it. I did like The Monal Lord more than everybody else. I can't say I listened to it a bunch of times. I am still stuck in this weird thing where I'm going back through the Cattle Decapitation catalog and realizing that might be one of my like-

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favorite bands ever. Which, well, no, not really. But I mean, just like you do when you get obsessed with somebody and they just don't really have a bad record. And then finally, again, with no shame or slight to anybody or anything, I fucking love the new Opeth record. I must listen to that 10 times since it came out. All right. I dig it. I take walks after work or after supper and that's been my walking record lately and other times as well. So good shit. Cool. I've got one of my,

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Yeah, old-timey long list. It's not super long, but it's a little longer than lately. Settle in, folks. It's not that long. We have Bumpy Red. So, first up, the new Blood Red Throne album, Fit to Kill. It's the ninth album from the Norwegian Death Metal Band. The new Cloud Rat album, Pollinator. It's their third album. This is a Michigan grindcore band, and I dig it. Evoked.

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Ravenous Compulsion is the first album from a German death metal band. The New Exhumed, which was mentioned, Horror is what it's called. It's their ninth album. Will mentioned Funeral Fuck, Colonel Confessions, kind of a fucked up name, but it's their first full length. It's a German epic doom band and surprisingly good. The Gatecreeper album. Just listen to the name of the songs and how that would,

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Like, portray to, like, the Catholic Church. Yeah, there's a lot of probable molestation songs on this album. Oh, yeah. Big time. So the new Great... And I'm not saying, oh, yeah, like, that's a good thing. Like, yeah, the Catholic Church is completely fucked up. Yeah. As mentioned previously by several people, the new Gate Creeper album, Deserted, pretty good. I like it. Okay, Mark us on the new Haunter album, Sacramento.

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Death Qualia. It's their second album, Texas Black Metal, I guess. It's good. We got the promo for the Mortiferum album, Disgorged from Psychotic Depths. Oh my god, that is a phenomenal album. And I feel super, super bad because they played at Atlas just like last week and I couldn't make it. Yeah, I would like to have seen that. It's in the,

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There's a group of bands that I relate to like tomb mold style music. And they're in there. Mortiferum, Colonel Tomb, Cerebral Rot, those guys, you know, it's good stuff. Yeah, no. Yes, Cerebral Rot just played as well. And I missed it because, well, I had to play. I had to coach baseball and soccer and all this crap. And brainwash.

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Next up, the first album from No One Knows What the Dead Think. It's a self-titled album. These are a couple of the guys from Discordance Axis. A lot of people have been anticipating this one. Myself among them. In fact, because of that, I picked up the Discordance Axis album, The Inalienable Dreamless as well.

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There's a band called Obture it or how do you say that? The Bleeding Mask of Dread is their first album. They're a French death metal band. I've been listening to that. This next one is one that you really should pay attention to. This is the second album from Senpai Eternal Dusk. Cenotaph of Defectious Creation. Portland, Oregon death metal band and this is some seriously cool shit. This is good.

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check that out. Two more. Serpents of Gnosis. As I drink from the infinite well of inebriation. This is the first album of like a death grind band featuring three members of Job for a Cowboy and one guy from Black Dahlia Murder. Do we just change the name of our podcast? To what? Sure. To what? Exactly what you just said. As I drink from the infinite well of inebriation.

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Yes. Yeah. Hey, um,

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let me go back a step and say that last one so I can spell it. Cause these all have names that are. Serpent of Gnosis.

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Serpent of Gnosis. It's. That was the one you were like, this is the shit. G N O S I S. Like the Gnostic. Uh, no, no, not this one. The one before that, the one you were like. Oh, Sempite. I think it's Sempite eternal. I think of like Semper Fi, you know? Uh, S E M P I T E R N A L. Dusk.

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Thank you, George, for saying always faithful. Yes. Cool. Anyway, back to you. I just. And the last album, Vastum, of course, Official Purge. Good stuff. Or Official Purge. That's what I said. And holy shit, that's a great album. No, you said Official Purge. Or Official Purge. There's a difference. There is. What's the difference? Official Purge or Official Purge? Official or official. Like, or official. Oh, like.

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Or, yeah, like, you have only your blood that you violent every single time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. Okay. All right, well. Dang it. Don't. Don't what? You forget about me. Don't you forget about me. Don't you forget about me. Don't, don't. Did you know that that song

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I can totally hear him singing. He has done a version of it since then. He was like, oops. You want more, more, more. Yeah. The official pair. I mean, it's right in his cadence. Oh, yeah. I could hear him. I don't think it would be any better than it is. It's actually a song I kind of like. Oh, yeah. How can you not? Yeah. Same. Well, it's a wet wedding. I just saw him and it was awesome. You saw him live?

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out there like hey this is your it's your orifice

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your orifice

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oh boy all right well here we are it's gonna be a short episode for a change

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yeah can i just take a moment here and say go ace oakland lb in the wild card yeah

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Washington Nationals playing two days from now against the Brewers. I'm full on board with the A's right now. Bless your heart, man. Because Bryce Harper and your Phillies fucked it. No, it actually has nothing to do with that. It's more of just... We're a gritty underdog team, dude, without a lot of money. And if you watch these guys every game like I do, they're fun to watch, man. Yes. So we'll see what happens.

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We'll get past the Rays. We're playing the Rays in the wild card. I find a hard time believing we won't get past that. We'll see where it goes from there. Yeah. And fuck Houston because they're going to beat everybody a thousand times over. Yeah. It will be Houston versus the... Shit. Houston's American League now, right? Yeah, they are. That fucks me up. They're in our division, too, which sucks. Houston Astros versus... Dodgers? Yeah, actually, yeah.

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You're right, the Dodgers. Red Sox really blew up this year. They did, man. If we didn't lose our listeners five hours ago, we'd definitely lose them. We'd lost them now. You lost me, actually. I actually wanted to talk to Adam about baseball. That's right. That's right. Well, I couldn't help bringing it up just because we are going to wild card. We're going to the playoffs. Thanks to who? Thanks to who? Thanks to Washington Nationals for being well.

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I mean we would have clinched anyway but they made they gave us our party because they beat the shit out of the Cleveland Indians was it yeah we stopped all right well with apologies for derailing us there no worries well I you know I'll I'll speak for myself and perhaps all of us and say we want to thank Adam again for coming he he is a friend of this podcast and and we hope his book is successful and we hope that you guys will help get it one way or another

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So I think we all went to three copy. Is that what we did? Pretty much. Yeah, I was going to ask him if you got the three copies. Does that go towards the number or does it just count as one? I couldn't tell. I bet it does. Yeah, I wonder. I would think it would be three. That's what I would think too. Because it's probably a $20 book, you know, give or take. But I mean, when I bought it, I didn't notice much of a change in the count. Oh, I didn't even see that the count was

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they're running. Yeah, there's a count running on it. All right, I'll take a look. One, one book sold. But good luck to him, and we hope, because he's our friend, we hope it gets published, but because we want to fucking read it, too. Yeah, definitely. The reason we like him. Word. All right. All right. This will do for today. And very soon, in the next couple weeks, you will be getting the John and TR episode

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of the Prague Power USA. Unfortunately, it's running a little late because of the scheduling, but definitely make sure to check that out. Awesome. Looking forward to it. All right. Until next time, we remain in the Metalheads Podcast.

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