WEBVTT 00:00:00.020 --> 00:00:05.220 Metalhead Podcast, Metalhead Podcast, Go! 00:00:26.240 --> 00:00:27.980 You must listen. 00:00:28.900 --> 00:00:30.180 You must listen. 00:00:31.560 --> 00:00:32.580 You must listen. 00:00:36.360 --> 00:00:40.000 Now, here is the Podcast Metalheads Podcast. 00:00:40.900 --> 00:00:42.380 Hello and welcome to the Metalheads Podcast. 00:00:42.570 --> 00:00:43.280 My name is George. 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:44.580 This is Jay. 00:00:46.460 --> 00:00:47.080 This is John. 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:48.880 This is Matt. 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:50.800 This is Mark San. 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:54.680 We are joined today by Joel Violette of Thrasenblatt. 00:00:54.960 --> 00:01:23.200 He's here once again. Welcome back, Joel. Thanks, George. How's everybody doing today? Pretty good. Unfortunately, Will couldn't join us today because he has things to do at Atlas, but he sends his best. Very good. I think this puts Joel in the lead for most times guesting because I want to say Canvas is up there somewhere. Yeah. But Joel's out in the lead with this one for sure. Yeah, this has got to be like, I mean, if you count last year, four. 00:01:24.980 --> 00:01:53.540 Yeah. Right. With the year end, right? Yeah, that too. Yeah. Well, you are most welcome, sir. We're glad to have you, sir. I appreciate it. Yeah, no, it's always a blast. Why do you think I keep coming back? It is my first time on with Joel, so that's cool. Oh, there you go. Yeah, sit here. I'm Joel, by the way. Nice to virtually meet you. Yeah. Hi, Joel. I'm Markisan. Good to meet you, too. George won't shut up about you, so it's good to actually put a face to the, you know, flowery words. 00:01:55.460 --> 00:02:22.680 So a little over a year ago, I traveled up to Fredericton, New Brunswick, to talk with Joel about the last Thrust and Blot album, Great Brunswick Forest. Now, a couple of weeks ago, you released a live acoustic album called Live Off the Forest Floor. Yes. Why don't you tell us a little bit about this new slice of wonderful? Well, so basically, we played our first live show ever in May. 00:02:22.760 --> 00:02:52.500 And just basically due to the nature of the show, it was an acoustic show. So it was basically the instrumentation was drums, bass guitar, a tune down to B parlor acoustic guitar, and a fiddle. And so the show itself was completely acoustic. And then we'd rehearse for like, you know, plenty of hours for this one show. And usually when you rehearse for that many hours, you're rehearsing for, you know, 10 shows, 20 shows, a big tour. 00:02:52.780 --> 00:03:21.460 So we're like, what the hell do we do with the set that we've just prepared? So I got a buddy of mine in town helped me basically mic up my basement and we recorded the entire set live the next day. Can I ask, what's the parlor guitar? I honestly don't know that term. So it's just the size, right? So there's the, it has to do with the size of the body of the guitar. Okay. So it's basically Jethro Tull. Oh yeah, that's all you had to say. Say no more. 00:03:22.820 --> 00:03:52.720 So yeah, it's basically a tiny guitar, but it was tuned down to a B and it was so heavy. So yeah, so we did basically the two takes of each song. And then I handed it off to Colin, Colin straight, our mixing mastering guy extraordinaire. And he, yeah, he just took it for a couple of months. And then what you guys heard was what basically I heard when he gave it back. So. Awesome. So I know Ray's not on there. So who is playing? 00:03:52.780 --> 00:04:22.740 with you on this album that's alex story so he's uh he's a local guy and so he um yeah he actually plays the drums on the the uh live show in you know two days before and then he played what's called a cajon as the percussion on the live album cajoners yeah only if you have two of them george yeah so basically a cajon is just a it's just a wooden box that you sit on and hit 00:04:22.740 --> 00:04:49.880 And it's got snares along the front and that sort of thing. So it has a... Actually, you can sound like a kick and a snare at the same time, depending how you hit it. So it's this really, really cool percussion instrument. And... In the sentence, a cojones is just something, a box you sit down and hit. How many times can you say, that's what she said in there? Please don't pound on my cojones. 00:04:52.760 --> 00:05:22.660 My box. I think that means something else. Yeah. I was curious how far I could get into the cajon before this onslaught started. Yeah. And Will's not even here. I know. I feel like the cajons got off pretty light so far. So I'm sure there'll be lots coming back later. Circle around. Yeah, no, it's great. So basically, yeah, it's this fantastic percussion instrument. 00:05:22.760 --> 00:05:49.520 which worked really nicely because we were able to basically mic up my basement on all of us kind of um that's so great john watching your screen it's just your hands just kind of like i gotta see what this cajon looks like yeah yeah joel my uh on this my new laptop my uh cam is on the very bottom it's really annoying so whenever i'm typing it's like these massive fingers sticking up so 00:05:51.580 --> 00:05:52.400 That's great though. 00:05:53.640 --> 00:05:54.060 Yeah, so anyway. 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:55.120 I can't do it. 00:05:58.220 --> 00:05:59.800 It's like you're hugging us, John. 00:06:00.340 --> 00:06:00.900 It's really nice. 00:06:01.280 --> 00:06:01.460 Yeah. 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:03.680 Sorry, John. 00:06:03.840 --> 00:06:04.960 I guess you see what it looks like. 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:07.520 No, diversions are welcome at all times. 00:06:08.760 --> 00:06:19.260 So, yeah, so basically it's this fantastic percussion instrument that worked really nicely for the setting of our recording because we were doing it like in a room that's probably, I don't know, 15 by, 00:06:19.420 --> 00:06:49.200 by 20 or something like that. And so we had as much kind of dampening stuff as we could all over the floor and on the walls and that sort of thing. And to keep us all kind of acoustically separate from the cajon, since we were using some condenser mics and that sort of thing, we ended up putting Alex basically behind a queen-size mattress. And so he's beyond the mattress wall. And the rest of us could see each other, but Alex was just kind of, 00:06:49.420 --> 00:07:18.840 About three inches away from a mattress for about a six-hour day. Nice. Yeah, so it all turned out nice. Yep, absolutely, yep. You get the scraps when we were done with whatever we were eating. Who else was on there? Brendan? Was he on there? Yeah, so Brendan drove up from Maine, and he played bass and some acoustic, and then Keegan MC, who did the fiddle for Thrasenblatt 4, who's just an incredible musician as well. 00:07:19.420 --> 00:07:49.360 It was really, that was my favorite part of the whole thing, was playing with those three guys who were just fantastic. So, yeah, Keegan plays bass and fiddle, and then so the songs that Brendan played acoustic guitar for, he swapped off and Keegan played some bass. Awesome. So what do we got total? Four people? How many people was it? Okay. Four people. Joel, you mentioned it was your first ever live set. For Throssenbutt. Yeah, for Throssenbutt. So what prompted you to start doing live shows? 00:07:49.420 --> 00:08:19.400 this year as opposed to previous years. So the number one thing is availability. And also kind of the ramp up it would take to put together a Thrasymaut live set kind of could only warrant playing a couple weeks worth of shows or that sort of thing. So the thing that actually worked nicely was the fact that it would be acoustic. The fact that the Great Brunswick Forex came out last year gave us enough acoustic material to be able to do a show which 00:08:19.420 --> 00:08:48.900 the ramp up was a little bit easier. Oh, right. Yeah. And so the venue was pretty cool, too. It was actually the Living Roots Folk Festival here in Fredericton. So it was one of those shows where half the people came out were expecting folk, and half the people who came out were expecting metal, and everybody left happy. So you're saying that there has never been an electric Thrasenblatt show? That's correct. How do we not know that? I thought you had done the odd, 00:08:52.180 --> 00:09:19.020 I thought about it a lot. This is something we have to make happen now. Well, I guess so. Yeah. Now that now that we put together that set and now that fires can be done live, we've proven it. Yeah. So I was just thinking, I don't know, Joel, if you're an Opeth fan, but in 2003, they did a joint tour at Porcupine Tree on the Damnation Tour. And they did just an acoustic set. Well, a semi-acoustic kind of their. 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:49.380 clean stuff. But when they played in London, they did that set. And then they did a heavy set after that. So I'm thinking, and George, I'm sure would be pretty down with this, do an acoustic set, take a 15 minute break, come back and do an electric set. You know, then to the best of both worlds and everyone goes home happy. And you've got plenty of acoustic stuff to do now. Yes, that's, that would be a fantastic, that'd be a great format. We were actually, so a couple, a couple of folks, 00:09:49.440 --> 00:10:17.340 actually came all the way from Ontario to see the show. There are some people who've been fans of the band for a while and they were just fantastic folks. They invited me to like, you know what, we should make an evening with Ross and Blonde happen. And they said the same thing, an acoustic set first and then a heavy set after. So, I don't know, it's one of those things that's like so tempting and so such a good idea. Have I talked to you about Letterkenny? Have you seen Letterkenny? Hell yeah! Yeah! 00:10:20.640 --> 00:10:26.580 I freaking love that show and I when you said they came from Ontario I was like well did they did they sound like letter 00:10:26.760 --> 00:10:35.200 Kenny people oh that's such a good show you could get me going for hours on that because they capture 00:10:35.900 --> 00:10:41.200 two Canadian accents like amazingly like there's kind of like the hickish one and then they've got the 00:10:41.310 --> 00:10:48.740 hockey player one too which they just nail has anybody else seen that what's that I've seen a few clips yeah 00:10:48.740 --> 00:11:15.899 I don't have us there's a couple guys that have been selling it to me like dude you got to watch this and I've probably watched an hour's worth of clips like on YouTube it is the greatest show ever well how are you watching it George is it on Hulu yeah I don't do Hulu for whatever reason not for bad reason but but I'm saying it's funny everything I've seen was funny I saw the big arguing about the DGens and how they're gonna handle the DGens and then just various things around the farm and whatnot it's funny and then there's the 00:11:19.620 --> 00:11:45.780 Where are they from? The French Canadians. Yeah. Somewhere in Canada. Yeah. And they fight and then they make up. That's awesome. Yeah. I mean, the one longer clip I've seen, the dialogue is just burned into my head based on what it was. And of course, I saw it at work. So it's even more ingrained in my mind. It's like they're so fast. Like the beginning of the show, it's just like back and forth. It's brilliant. Yeah. 00:11:45.920 --> 00:11:50.240 I loved the first season and then what really made me realize I was in the presence of 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:55.980 something fantastic was the first scene of the second season I think it is it's when they he 00:11:56.060 --> 00:12:01.480 basically goes on a two and a half minute monologue where he'll say a sentence with only the letter A 00:12:01.980 --> 00:12:09.220 and then the sentence with only the letter B and then only letter C I think it's called cold open if you want to YouTube it it's just it's just a thing of genius 00:12:09.300 --> 00:12:13.280 it goes all the way through the alphabet yeah yeah that was great yeah 00:12:14.560 --> 00:12:42.940 Anyway, I totally derailed us there. You were talking about how the people from Ontario. An evening with Thrasenblatt. An evening with Thrasenblatt. This needs to happen. Anything we can do, anything I can do to help make this happen, you let me know. Thrasenblatt open air. Yeah, it's one of those things that it's like, can we make a live Thrasenblatt show work? 00:12:43.280 --> 00:13:12.300 And it went off so well. And it sounded so good. And the preparation was doable. So it's one of those things where it would be tough to justify without having done a show like this first. It'd be tough to justify like, yeah, we'll do a big festival. Yeah, we'll play heavy MTL or whatever. Even if the demand were there, it'd be like, well, what the fuck am I doing? Can we actually do this? 00:13:13.280 --> 00:13:43.260 I was going to ask you, surely you've had some festivals reach out to you. I mean, have you? Oh, really? No, that's interesting. I mean, especially when I saw, especially with your feature in Kerrang! which I know they've been nice to you on a couple occasions and when they reviewed Medicthonia, I think it was. I just remember thinking, well, you're really on some people's radar and I mean, maybe it is they know that you're not necessarily touring or anything, but that's exactly the guy you do reach out to. So yeah. Yeah. I mean, everybody 00:13:43.300 --> 00:14:12.320 that I talk to and say, hey, blah, blah, throw some blood. And they're like, oh, yeah. I mean, they could be yanking my chain, but they seem to know what I'm talking about. And yeah, I don't get it. But even if it's in Fredericton, I will come up there and do this. So you make it happen. I'll be there. Okay. Well, yeah, well, I'll let you know. I'll let you guys know all of you. That's pretty exciting. 00:14:14.800 --> 00:14:42.380 What was that? Somebody's right. Who's got the sirens? That's me. You mentioned how you were able to do Fires That Light the Earth. I wanted to say that was the biggest surprise for me on this release. Hearing that song, an acoustic version of that song, in fact, was incredible. How did you decide to do that one? Well, thanks. Yeah, no, I'm glad you enjoyed it because that, 00:14:42.420 --> 00:15:12.340 But yeah, that one was one of the ones where I was like, this is going to be a lot of fucking work. I hope it turns out. And that's been basically everybody's just said been like, that's the jewel on the album. Oh, yeah. Well, it's one of those things. It's like playing a long song. It's just so satisfying because there's that depth and that immersion that you get from that that you don't get in a three and a half minute song as much or at least you get to kind of live there a little bit longer. So it was a no brainer because it's, you know, 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:42.280 So on Spotify, we've got a whack of listens on Fires That Light the Earth. I was just doing some chores or something like that in the kitchen, and I put on this Folk Metal Warriors playlist, and I was listening to some Moon Soro and then a Modern Marath, and then this cello part came on that I was pretty... I was like, I recognize that. And I asked my Nikki, I was like, hey, Nick, did you change my Spotify? She's like, what? Did you change my Spotify? 00:15:42.420 --> 00:16:07.860 No! And Fires of Light the Earth was on Folk Metal Warriors. Awesome. That was one of the most surreal Spotify moments I've had. So everyone seems to like it. So that was a no-brainer to do from T3. And you had to do something from every album. Hey, Joel, how did you spend that one-tenth of a penny? Speaking of Nicky. I bought this guitar pick here. 00:16:12.420 --> 00:16:42.380 I announced the new Taylor Swift album though so you gotta yeah speaking of Nikki since last we talked you are now married that is correct congratulations yeah congratulations thank you thank you yeah I seen you waving that ring around while you were talking yeah yep awesome one ring to rule them all indeed yeah so there's one ring that rules them all and one ring to rule someone else wears another ring that gets ruled so how difficult was it to put down an 11 00:16:42.400 --> 00:17:11.819 a minute song and not fuck up. So basically, in the live version, when we played it live in the show, we did fuck up, but you couldn't tell because we just kind of cut out four or eight bars. I forget which one it was, but the drum part that goes into the next one is so clear and unique that we just moved into the right section. We just kind of lost about eight bars or 16 bars or something like that. 00:17:13.260 --> 00:17:42.360 And so in the live recording, we played the first two, full disclosure, we played the first two thirds and then I was like, then we let everything like kind of fade out. And then we started again for the last third. Yeah. But so, yeah, it was basically it was an eight minute take and then a five minute take. So in case you screwed up in the end, you didn't have to start all over. Yeah. 13 minutes every time. Yeah. Yeah. Because we did one full take all the way through and flubbed up something at the end. And we're like, well, let's probably, you know, give it a little bit. 00:17:42.400 --> 00:18:12.360 the time let's just let's do two-thirds of it that was fantastic and then let's do the last third and so it was just one take but we kind of had like we'd like press save you know what i mean so we could kind of go back if we needed to but uh yeah it's kind of like uh throstenblot unleashed in the north yeah well do you write that way is that i mean when you for the three albums that are heavy do you do you write acoustic first or electric first you do both or do you write with the idea that you may transform it into 00:18:12.420 --> 00:18:42.360 or rearrange into acoustic because when you listen to the I think what there's three songs on the live album that are traditionally you know metal songs but you couldn't tell the difference I mean they transcribe fine I think they don't sound like they're forced or they're rearranged too much oh very good thanks so do you think that when you write do you think that way I think that the way I think about music is similar for heavy as it is to acoustic 00:18:42.900 --> 00:19:12.360 or maybe the way I think about acoustic is the same way I think about heavy. So basically that there's at all times in the song there's one chord to rule them all and then as each chord changes there's so much that can you know X and Y can happen when that chord's happening. And I think that I was able to just I think the way I play acoustic guitar is kind of heavy anyway. And so I think it naturally goes that way. But I think that a lot of the time 00:19:12.420 --> 00:19:41.840 when I do write, it's something that could, I'll either go heavier or acoustic based on the feel of the lyrics or the feel of just kind of how the drums could go or that sort of thing. So it can diverge at any point. Yeah, because I thought that when I heard Black Sky, I was like, man, this sounds just like it. It's just acoustic. It didn't sound any different at all, which I thought was kind of cool. That's cool. Some songs didn't translate that well, I don't think, to acoustic, which is why I was like, no, this is going to be tough. Let's pick a different one. 00:19:43.100 --> 00:19:43.980 So yeah, 00:19:44.090 --> 00:19:45.420 some are just impossible to do. 00:19:45.470 --> 00:19:45.720 I mean, 00:19:45.750 --> 00:19:46.760 no matter how much you try, 00:19:47.280 --> 00:19:49.440 I'd love to do view of a million trees acoustic, 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:54.700 but it's just way too intricate to try to sing it and play it at the same 00:19:54.780 --> 00:19:54.920 time. 00:19:55.940 --> 00:19:56.060 So, 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:56.620 yeah. 00:19:58.620 --> 00:19:58.780 I, 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:03.060 I was glad to see that you included once fire veined as well. 00:20:03.820 --> 00:20:05.560 It's a bad-ass heavy song on its own, 00:20:05.700 --> 00:20:07.080 but given the acoustic treatment, 00:20:08.380 --> 00:20:09.460 it's got a whole new life. 00:20:09.490 --> 00:20:09.840 I think. 00:20:15.580 --> 00:20:31.320 I'm not terribly familiar with early American folk music, but it kind of gives me that feel of like, not preachy, but I can't even express it. 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:34.340 I believe in you, George. 00:20:34.740 --> 00:20:35.380 Just like... 00:20:35.380 --> 00:20:37.240 Yeah, we're all pouring for you, little buddy. 00:20:39.020 --> 00:20:41.260 You're like the cleft or something right now. 00:20:44.060 --> 00:20:45.960 You're talking about like that church folk type? 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:52.500 Like an old Woody Guthrie kind of feel of like singing about the land and the people. 00:20:52.790 --> 00:20:58.540 And it's, you know, it's like it was made to be a folk song, but it started life as a black metal song. 00:21:00.420 --> 00:21:00.700 Anyway. 00:21:01.460 --> 00:21:04.500 You know, you're reminding me that there is an ineffable thing. 00:21:04.530 --> 00:21:06.160 I mean, it's hard to pin down what you're talking about. 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:07.300 And I totally appreciate that. 00:21:09.679 --> 00:21:35.560 Well, but with the mild exception of the fact that, and I really want to sell this, and Bette and Joel might have watched it. Didn't you guys watch the Ken Burns country music thing? Nope. Awesome, dude. And trust me, no matter how much you don't like modern country, you can live through the whole first five episodes. It's amazing that it talks about Woody Guthrie and stuff and where the line diverged from that into country music and another direction. I can't recommend it enough, no matter what you think of country music. 00:21:37.460 --> 00:22:07.140 But yeah, the point was, once fire-veined, good stuff. I'm so glad that one turned out well, too. Because that one, well, to go back to the songwriting process, that one, the music itself started as, I think in 2008 or 2009, as like, just kind of a very monomarthy, super heavy, kind of like, double-kicky groove kind of song that had no lyrics to it at all. 00:22:07.460 --> 00:22:36.560 And then like 2012-ish, 2011-ish, I was just on this big lyric kick and wrote all the lyrics separately, not knowing that they would go to that song. And then the two of them just kind of magically kind of gravitated towards each other and fit really nicely. So the lyrics themselves could have, yeah, they could have turned out in any song, I guess. But it's really neat how they work with this one. I think it's a nice pairing. 00:22:37.460 --> 00:23:07.280 You did once fire veined when we did the campfire thing. Had you already arranged it prior to that? Or did you arrange that because I said, hey, you should play this? Especially for you, George. Well, that's cool. I did something good in my life, I guess. Oh, yeah, there you go. There's the one thing, George. Nothing to do with the other how many dozens of episodes. Yeah, the neat thing was that there's always a chord happening at all times. 00:23:07.460 --> 00:23:37.420 and then he throws them that song and so I can you know you know someone says you should do that acoustic I can I can give it a pretty decent go and I think I think that it just like you asked there John I think it I think it just kind of because of that it lends itself nicely to being able to be you know turned into acoustic or turn into a piano piece or anything like that yeah you you mentioned songwriting and lyrics Joel and I'm pretty new to your band but some of the songs that I listen to they paint some interesting 00:23:37.460 --> 00:23:42.500 of Canada kind of reminds me a lot of the Canadian rock band The Tragically Hip. 00:23:43.020 --> 00:23:43.760 Oh, very cool. 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:48.420 Yeah, Gord Downey would write lyrics that depicted landscapes and people of Canada, 00:23:48.760 --> 00:23:50.900 like distinctly Canadian songs. 00:23:51.500 --> 00:23:55.180 They seem to become more of a staple in their work as the years went by. 00:23:55.280 --> 00:24:02.780 So I was just wondering if you plan on exploring like history, places, folklore of Canada more in your own songwriting. 00:24:03.460 --> 00:24:04.280 Ah, so cool. 00:24:04.860 --> 00:24:06.440 Man, let me just process this for a second. 00:24:07.020 --> 00:24:36.980 Because the hip are beloved here in Canada. Yes, they are. And obviously for good reason. The music's incredible. Gord was such a poet and he did such great work. The music itself is one of those ones that everybody can like it. It's kind of unifying in a way. But anyway, I think that history is a huge interest of mine. I think that it has to be the right 00:24:37.000 --> 00:25:06.060 the right topic on the right album. So I think Thrasenblatt in general tends to start with a soundscape or like a place whether, well, not whether, but actually I was going to say whether fictional or real, but it tends to be fictional, whatever the continent of Saplings is, wherever that is, or Metathonia, but it's usually like some sort of parable for something else. And so whatever fits in that, I try to kind of be more universal. 00:25:06.840 --> 00:25:36.700 in what I write so that it doesn't peg any one kind of thing that it can kind of speak to more than just one situation. But I think that's nice for that approach. But I think it'd be really cool to explore more, to find a really neat part of history or something that is able to take to paint that picture, to paint that kind of soundscape. 00:25:37.060 --> 00:26:06.800 and then just dive into that and make that the texture of the album and then just use those stories in that context. It raises an interesting notion too because Panopticon comes to mind which is black metal and death metal and whatever we're talking about these days and folk metal can be, maybe that's one of the reasons your stuff really resonates because I think it really matters if you can put your local emotion and or notion on top of 00:26:06.840 --> 00:26:36.780 this sort of universal art form. And a lot of guys don't do that. A lot of guys don't get that. They're just like, they try to emulate the Norway thing or whatever it is. And if you, if you fill your local passion into it, that's interesting. I've never, I never really considered that about it, but you are quintessentially Canadian folk metal. If that's the, the word you. Jay, it's interesting. You should say that because when I saw sore at Atlas, you know, they, they reminded me of Panopticon a little bit because they, they kind of take that. 00:26:36.840 --> 00:27:06.800 that Celtic vibe and I made the joke I said they're the Panopticon of Scotland they really do incorporate Scottish rhythms into atmospheric black metal and it's Panopticon obviously does the Americana the Appalachian type sound which is very which is where they're from right I mean I'm not making that up I assume that guy's from Kentucky or something yeah I think so but he's not anymore now I was in my neck of the woods and because I'm an asshole I saw both fans on the same night in the same venue that's so awesome 00:27:06.820 --> 00:27:36.400 The coolest thing for me, the coolest thing about it is that it blends together so well. To your point, it adds that local flavor, but it just fits perfectly. And I mean it as a compliment. Especially since, for instance, I think of Primordial as a very Irish band. You're a very Canadian band, and that's cool. Long story short, I think what it means is that you're able to communicate meaningful things to you, and they come through. Let's put it that way. 00:27:36.840 --> 00:27:38.920 Jay, I think what you're trying to say is that true love is blind. 00:27:40.360 --> 00:27:45.340 No, true love means never having to say you're sorry. Did you ever see Ice Castles, man, or whatever that was, or love story? 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:50.260 I was quoting old school, but same thing. 00:27:51.500 --> 00:27:52.300 That's a love story. 00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:53.380 It is. 00:27:56.500 --> 00:27:57.340 Love is blindness. 00:27:57.840 --> 00:27:58.820 True love is blind. 00:28:01.780 --> 00:28:04.960 Wow, can you believe it? We just got to the end of all of our, that's amazing. 00:28:05.040 --> 00:28:34.960 We were like, that's the most intelligent thing we've ever said. Let's just stop. Well, I was considering an impromptu question. And I'll cut this out if you can't talk about it. But can you talk about the maritime metal thing? Oh, maritime metal thing. Okay, never mind. Oh, yeah, no, no. Yeah, no, that was great. All right. Let's start that over then. I thought I'd leave that in. No, no, no, no, no. 00:28:35.040 --> 00:29:03.980 I was like, well, that was the way it was when I first asked you about it. And then. Oh, right. I was like, hey, did this guy talk to you? And you're like, no. And then I'm like, and then it's like, you know, two days later, he's interviewing you. Yeah. All right. Let me start this over. I really want you to leave it in, George, because that is so hilarious that his non-memory of it was you like going, I hear you, dude. Wink, wink. 00:29:05.040 --> 00:29:33.740 Fine, fine. It's all staying in. Yeah, so I know that you recently did some interview with Bill from the Maritime Metal documentary. I just thought of that with all this talk about the regional types of music. And he seems like a pretty cool guy. I talked to him for a little bit. Definitely. 00:29:33.820 --> 00:30:03.580 He thought we were from Fredericton too and was going to have us on as well. And I was like, dude, no, we're from not there. What was the circumstance? Um, that's a good question. I don't remember. I must've said, I think I wrote to him cause I saw he was doing the documentary and I was like, Hey, are you including Joel in this? Cause if you're not, you're a fucking dick. You mentioned this now that I think about it. I didn't say, I didn't say that. And in fact, I see, I asked, 00:30:03.820 --> 00:30:32.080 It starts off, I asked Joel, I was like, hey, are you going to be part of this thing? Because it's criminal if you're not. And you're like, no, I haven't heard anything. And I was like, well, I'm going to say something to him. And Joel's like, no, no, don't say anything. Don't say anything. You know, he's like, no, don't bother him. I'm Canadian. It's not right. Why does he sound British in your mouth? I know I can't do it. Was that your Canadian accent? Take off, eh, you hoser. 00:30:33.840 --> 00:31:02.900 I can only speak like a McKenzie brother. You get your letter Kenny accents to work with now, right? Yeah, but it's too good. I can't do it. Anyway, so I amped him through Facebook. I messaged him and I said, hey, are you going to talk to Joel? And he's like, oh, yeah, Joel's awesome. Yeah, yeah, I'll get a hold of him. And I was like, all right, cool. And we just started talking. And, you know, I guess he thought because I knew you, I was from there. And, you know, we were talking about the podcast. 00:31:05.120 --> 00:31:32.700 And he was like, yeah, I'll come on the podcast. And he's like, you know, you want to do an interview for the documentary? And I was like, well, yeah, but we're not Canadian. He's like, oh, never mind. Yeah, I got it. You should have just lied. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he was going to be, he's like, yeah, I'm going to be in town. And I'm like, yeah, I won't be. But anyway, anyway, so what happened with that for you? He never reached out to me. 00:31:32.780 --> 00:32:00.940 What are you talking about? I'm just kidding. That was fantastic. Billy came up. He was here in town for a weekend. He and his buddy, they brought some cameras and microphones and all those things. We went to Odell Park there, George, where you and I saw the photo for Thoros and Blood 4. We went there and did an interview. It was a lot of fun. 00:32:02.800 --> 00:32:32.440 The neatest bit was that at the end of it, he's like, so while we're here, like, would you sing a song? Yeah. I was like, well, I don't have my guitar or anything like that. He's like, I don't know, just like, is there anyone you can do acapella? I was like, okay. So I did Maritime Shores, just like standing by myself in the middle of the forest. Why didn't I think of this? And so what's neat, though, is that I didn't realize the sonic properties of forests, like trees, 00:32:32.800 --> 00:33:02.760 have this great way of echoing stuff back. So I'd end off with some big note and have a little break, a couple of beats, and then I'd hear the whole thing echoing in the forest. It was so, so cool. Nice. Awesome. But yeah, no, Billy was great. We had a lot of great chats and a lot of good questions. And it was neat reliving the mid-2000s Fredericton heavy metal scene in which Behemoth played 00:33:02.780 --> 00:33:32.580 something called the Bugaboo Creek Pub, which was about the size of a bungalow maybe. And they were incredibly good and so terrifying and so loud. And I was 10 feet away from them. And then they're selling out stadiums two years later. And yeah, that was a highlight of Fredericton metal for sure. Wow. That's awesome. Well, you mentioned the force. 00:33:32.800 --> 00:34:02.760 That kind of segues into another question I had, Joel, which is your music seems very much inspired by the outdoors, specifically the forest. Now, I don't know if Campfire Metal is an actual sub-genre, but it seems like you could make a case for that. But my question is, do you recall your first experience in a forest and what it was like? Oh, I think it tends to be with 00:34:02.780 --> 00:34:31.700 I think a lot so as a kid I you know went around the province a bunch playing sports and that sort of thing and so I'd kind of you know just be driving around listening to music looking at the window in all sorts of weather and that sort of thing and I remember I remember I think maybe grade 10 or something like that driving somewhere listening to anthems to the welcome at dusk and just being like the two of them kind of just like meshed in my brain and like it was incredible. 00:34:32.800 --> 00:35:01.800 And then after that, I think associating any place with it or kind of in a forest would be like, I used to go to Odell Park a bunch and run. And I'd listen to Amorphous's, the one that has, crap. So not Skyforger, but two Elves. End of a Thousand Lakes. After that one, it's the one before. Eclipse? Silent Waters? 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:32.180 The one right before Silent Waters. Eclipse. Yes, that one. Yeah. I would listen to that just on repeat running around Odell. And I think that cemented something for me, I'm guessing. I would like to hear other people chime in on that because I can share two. And one is that I was listening to Gorgoroth, the Idols one, whatever that one that is, Death of the Idols or whatever, that's not the name of it, on the train from Oslo to Bergen. And it was right. 00:35:32.220 --> 00:35:32.880 It was perfect 00:35:33.560 --> 00:35:36.260 And also I had the good fortune to listen to 00:35:36.620 --> 00:35:37.760 a lot of Jethro Tull in England 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.060 and headphones on a bus going up to the Moors 00:35:40.540 --> 00:35:42.060 while it was raining and it was just perfect man 00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:44.000 So I mean and you get it 00:35:44.080 --> 00:35:45.800 You're like this person is expressing this place 00:35:46.580 --> 00:35:46.940 What? 00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:48.700 Anybody else catch that? 00:35:49.220 --> 00:35:49.900 Yeah totally dude 00:35:50.040 --> 00:35:51.920 Oh yeah we went and took this long hike 00:35:51.980 --> 00:35:53.220 in a place called Goatland 00:35:53.500 --> 00:35:54.460 which is out in the Moors 00:35:54.460 --> 00:35:56.700 and it was this totally perfect rainy English day 00:35:57.540 --> 00:35:58.960 November, October, something like that 00:35:59.500 --> 00:36:00.599 And I had my headphones with me 00:36:00.620 --> 00:36:30.580 I just listened to Death Row 12 all the way up in this bus and it was like this is the best thing that's ever happened man it was amazing anybody else got the any geographically specific metal listens I uh I don't know if it counts I guess it must um I listened to Bathory while flying over Scandinavia particularly Odin's right over the Nordland I think it works for me nice um and I was just like I don't 00:36:30.600 --> 00:36:32.600 I was like this this uh 00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.540 I'm totally blanking on his name Bathory. 00:36:39.020 --> 00:36:43.760 Korthon. I was I was in this like Korthon zone of like I don't know it was cool. 00:36:44.220 --> 00:36:45.460 Literally you were in Korthon zone. 00:36:45.570 --> 00:36:45.680 Yeah. 00:36:48.500 --> 00:36:51.160 So I got another one which is kind of kind of interesting. 00:36:51.580 --> 00:36:56.200 Um it's which is like it's when something really made sense for me musically. 00:36:56.620 --> 00:37:25.960 So obviously Nile's amazing. I love their music. And listening to it on a cold winter's day in Canada doesn't really... It's like, this is sweet, but there's no connection. There's no meshing. So I was in Florida once, and it was just sweltering. And I was super hot, sweating, sun just beating down on you. Then I put on the Nile, and it just made sense. Yeah, for sure, dude. 00:37:26.040 --> 00:37:55.520 Oh, to listen to that in Egypt. That's just overwhelming. Yeah, it was amazing. Have you heard the new one, dude? It's pretty fucking great. There's a new Nile. Just came out Friday. And honestly, dude, it's their best record since like... Annihilation of the Wicked. Yeah, it probably is. I would say that's... It is so good. I kind of like was angry when Dallas left as the singer. I was like, come on. What is this? 00:37:55.660 --> 00:38:25.620 like singer 12 but damn it is good well uh carl sings too so there's still a bit of him but this new dude's kind of got more of a opethian kind of death vocal i think like at least that's the thing that comes to mind and it just works dude it's uh and and they they've they've spread their wings a little bit they're doing some slightly different kinds of it's i i love it dude i've listened to this record a bunch of times uh i can't wait for this niles one of those bands that has was there kind of when i started listening to metal yeah and who 00:38:25.620 --> 00:38:27.300 whose releases I still anticipate. 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:29.780 He didn't anticipate this one! 00:38:30.420 --> 00:38:31.240 No, I didn't. 00:38:33.200 --> 00:38:37.860 Well, my feeling, just one last comment, is they've had the new guy since one previous album, 00:38:37.890 --> 00:38:41.200 and I think they're completely on their feet with this new lineup on this record. 00:38:41.200 --> 00:38:42.380 No, this is his first album. 00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:43.940 Oh, is it? Okay. 00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:46.920 He did some tours with them. 00:38:48.040 --> 00:38:51.180 We saw him with Amorphous and Swallow the Sun. 00:38:52.120 --> 00:38:52.900 And Overkill. 00:38:53.070 --> 00:38:53.660 And Overkill, yeah. 00:38:54.280 --> 00:39:24.240 So that does mean though that as you say there was an exit since the last record then. Yeah. Yeah. I because I was like wait didn't he already do one and I looked and no Dallas was on the last album. No. I thought they had one. No. Go ahead. Totally. I'll look it up. Look it up. Okay. And just just go ahead and break in to tell me I'm right. Because I checked that shit. All right. So I know that on Great Brunswick Forest there were a few songs that you were less 00:39:24.260 --> 00:39:54.160 I'm less happy with than some of the other songs. But with this album, of course. You were right, George. Thank you. All the tracks are handpicked from different releases. Are you more satisfied with this one as being solid from front to back? Well, even Great Brunswick Forest, I'm satisfied with it as well. I don't want to imply that. I know where it came from because I told you, are there any songs you don't quite like as much on this one, George? 00:39:54.280 --> 00:40:23.760 because there's a couple that I'm just kind of like, oh. Yeah, yeah. It's like, and I probably said the same thing. I'm like, it's Thrasenblatt, hello. It's good. It was one of those things where one of them started as a heavy song, and then I transcribed it to acoustic, and a couple of the bits that are supposed to just hammer didn't quite hammer. And so, you know, it still worked great as a song, but it didn't have all of the hits that I was kind of expecting. 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:54.240 And that the heavy version, which we're working on, actually, I don't know if it's awesome, but four and two thirds would be this album is heavy, heavy Brunswick Forest. When I was there, you played me some heavy versions of some of these songs that you were like, you know, I got to go into the inner sanctum there and you were playing me stuff and you were like, this is the song heavy. And I'm like, you need to put that out. Yeah. So that's coming up next. But yeah, those, those bits work in the 00:40:57.060 --> 00:41:24.000 I think that the only thing I'm not happy with on Live Off the Forest Floor is the second chorus of Here I Am a Fortress, where I'm listening to, while I performed the, you know, Fortress, I was listening to Brendan do his, like, ahhh, and then I kind of went flat without noticing, and then I was like, oh, I better go back, and then I got back up to the note, 00:41:24.020 --> 00:41:54.000 And then it's like so clear on the album, but it's a live album. And so I have to listen to that. Well, if you haven't noticed yet, then I'm a happy camper. I have not. Yeah, but I like warts and all too, dude. I mean, like seriously. And I think that's why you did it, I assume. Absolutely. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. And I was listening to some old bootleg Metallica thing a while back because it came in one of these insane box sets of like Ride the Lightning. And they fucked up so bad in this one show. And I was like, it just made me feel so 00:41:54.020 --> 00:42:22.820 They were all playing different parts of the song. And they left it on there. They were like, screw it. It's this famous show from like the Japanese theater here on the Ride the Lightning Tour. So I'm all for warts and all. And it's easy for you to sort of feel vulnerable about that. But nobody's judging that, dude. Trust me, the fans and the listeners are like, that's almost some of the stuff that makes it special. It's like, ooh, that's, yeah, it's good. Is that kind of like going to see Iron Maiden? 00:42:24.020 --> 00:42:54.000 a fan for like 40 years and you finally get to see them play a song that's one of your favorite and Bruce decides not to come out and sing the fucking song and so they repeat it over and over and over I still don't understand you poor man it's a where you go stare he couldn't get back on he had like literally two two lyrics to sing in a whole song and he fucked the thing up when he came back it was really it was 00:42:54.040 --> 00:43:23.200 Where Eagles Dare Joel is what it was. But it makes it memorable. Oh, God, yeah, it was awesome. Exactly. I got a couple of friends who love Iron Maiden and went to see them just as they put up their... I forget which album it was. It was maybe... It wasn't Dance to Death. It was like the next one or something like that. Benjamin Buttons? Matter of Life and Death. Yeah, that one. That was a good one. I'm trying to remember which one. It was the one right after they did the greatest hits. 00:43:24.020 --> 00:43:26.940 But anyway, so they basically played the entirety of the new album. 00:43:27.060 --> 00:43:28.380 That was Matter of Life and Death. 00:43:28.940 --> 00:43:30.900 And they played no hits. 00:43:31.520 --> 00:43:38.600 And so my friends who never got a chance to see them again, they saw all of the album that they had never heard before. 00:43:39.520 --> 00:43:43.120 You know, I have to tell you, I've wondered at that because I remember that tour. 00:43:43.230 --> 00:43:46.020 And they didn't do very many shows over here in the States. 00:43:46.070 --> 00:43:47.900 And I wanted to go because I actually liked the record. 00:43:48.240 --> 00:44:18.200 But I remember thinking if I was just some dumbass kid in Los Angeles or whatever and I didn't you know and I just wanted to hear Run to the Hills how would I feel about this yeah yeah but I didn't get to go to the tour what really left a bad taste in their mouth was the fact that I'd seen them at Heavy MTL when they were doing the greatest hits album and they literally played all the greatest hits and Bruce was climbing up this like 50 foot scaffolding and like holding on with one arm and singing like the trooper with the other and just like oh hey watching Bruce Dickinson 00:44:18.240 --> 00:44:24.940 almost you could die bruce don't do that yeah but yeah then nailing it and then climbing back down 00:44:25.260 --> 00:44:33.340 man so anyway he's a pilot he's used to being up high so he's oh yeah i'm reading the elton john book me 00:44:33.710 --> 00:44:42.240 that just came out and uh he he talks about how he fucked up and he had a new album that 00:44:42.260 --> 00:45:11.940 was either about to come out or had just come out. And he decided they were going to play the thing front to back as this show. Like it was like a big deal. It was like the Dodger Stadium or, you know, something like that. It was it was a big deal. And nobody knew the songs because it just come out. And he's like three songs in. I'm like, oh, shit. Nobody knows this. Nobody likes it. 00:45:12.240 --> 00:45:40.740 And like people were like leaving and by the end of the set, they were like gone because they wasn't playing that. And a stark contrast to that. And I think it matters the iconic level of the song, but there's a live recording of Simon and Garfunkel. And it's a record that you could buy. It's a live album from upstate New York. And it's and they play Bridge Over Trouble Water for the first time. Nobody's ever heard it. And the crowd goes fucking nuts, dude, which of course you would. It'd be like if, you know, if they were like, hey, we got this new song. Hey, Jude, you haven't heard it yet, but we're going to play it for you. 00:45:41.560 --> 00:45:45.600 I mean, honestly, you can hear the standing ovation on this song. 00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:59.660 That's funny that you say, hey, Jude, because that's another Elton John story where he's in the studio and Paul McCartney comes in and they're in the studio for something else. 00:45:59.690 --> 00:46:04.060 And he just wanders into their studio and sits down at Elton's piano and starts playing this song. 00:46:04.160 --> 00:46:06.160 He's like, it's this new song we're working on. 00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:07.020 And it was, hey, Jude. 00:46:08.060 --> 00:46:08.140 Yeah. 00:46:08.300 --> 00:46:09.100 And he was like, what? 00:46:10.720 --> 00:46:39.700 So real quick, just it's a it relates to Canada here. Jay, you mentioned that. I don't know if anyone's a Neil Young fan. I love Neil Young. And he released a live show from Massey Hall from like what 1970, I think. And he plays hard of gold for the first time in front of a Canadian audience, I believe. No one had any idea what he was playing. So it's like that one guy going, all right. Yeah. Hard of gold. Yeah, that guy was John. 00:46:45.600 --> 00:47:10.340 So, uh, I'm guessing the answer, I probably know, but do you have any plans for any other shows at this point? Uh, no. No. Okay. Um, so, this kind of throws a wrench in what I was, I was going to ask, but, uh, not, not that, but what you said previously about, uh, 00:47:10.700 --> 00:47:39.900 and two thirds or whatever. So will you be going back to a new album soon? In fact, and will that be a heavy album? Yes and yes. Yes. So yeah, we're doing Heavy Brunswick Forest as so Ray's super busy right now with with Immortal Bird. Yes. And so it's she we're doing going to do going to do Heavy Brunswick Forest is kind of like four or five song thing that's easier. 00:47:40.700 --> 00:48:09.460 in terms of learning new material, because there's not much new. And so Ray's, we have her in the studio for February to record drums. And so hopefully we'll get that EP out. Hopefully we'll get that EP out. Yeah, 2020, hopefully, maybe early 2021. We'll see. And then after that, we'll be thrusting by five. So we're looking at 2021 before you even think about T5. No, I've already, I've got most of the songs written. 00:48:09.680 --> 00:48:38.680 Before you even record T5. Yep. No, it's kind of like there's enough material that there were like bottlenecking on the recording process. So it's kind of it's a little bit frustrating to, you know, have that much material that you just want out now. But you know, you have to wait. You have to wait. Well, Joel, clearly George has proven himself to be your biggest fan. 00:48:39.560 --> 00:49:08.900 How important is you to please him on these? Not at all. Not at all. Oh, yeah. You can totally take him for granted at this point. He doesn't have to try. He knows I'm going to be there. He's like, yeah, we're going to do an album of like Baby Shark. Yeah. Right now, Baby Shark is a big thing around here. Well, because it's tied to the bats, right? Yeah. People don't know that. Yeah. I saw a lot of Baby Sharks today. They were cute. 00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:39.520 So George actually, I don't know if this is a known fact or not, but George named one of the songs off of Thoros and Blatt 4. He provided the title. I did. I don't remember that. Which one is it? Would you like to say, would you like to reveal it, George? I prefer you say it. I want to hear it coming from you. Maybe sure. No. Dark Sky Sanctuary. We're chatting about 00:49:39.540 --> 00:50:09.520 and George was like, you know, there's like, there's this dark sky sanctuary over here. And I was like, what three words did you just say? And so he explained the concept. And I was like, George, I'm going to make a song out of that. Awesome, dude. Presumably the concept being a place where there's low light so you can use star viewing and stuff. Yeah, it's like required by law or whatever. They have to keep the law. It's been a while since I looked at it. But yeah, I think it's like a federal thing where 00:50:09.580 --> 00:50:11.320 There's certain parts of the country where 00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:13.820 I don't know if it's federal, George, to be honest. 00:50:13.970 --> 00:50:14.340 I don't know. 00:50:14.940 --> 00:50:15.520 That's local stuff. 00:50:15.640 --> 00:50:18.880 I have to say, I have to say, I was going to ask a question about that. 00:50:19.100 --> 00:50:24.120 And I'm totally pissing my question off now because I thought this was something from Joel. 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.740 Had I known it came from George, I never would have asked this question. 00:50:28.310 --> 00:50:31.240 But I was going to ask Joel if you'd ever been to a dark sky sanctuary because 00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:31.520 Really? 00:50:32.180 --> 00:50:33.180 Yes, because. 00:50:34.180 --> 00:50:35.660 And George, you'll like this. 00:50:35.750 --> 00:50:37.400 We just got a new one in Virginia. 00:50:37.460 --> 00:51:07.420 We have three in Virginia, but there's a new one that just got designated back in March, and it's out by the little inn of Washington, George. So it's close to us. It's only like an hour away. Oh, I gotta go to that. Maybe Joel will come down and visit it. If you make it dark, he will come. Are they all near like established telescopes, or is it like... No, it's just... I think if you go to the International Dark Sky Sanctuary site, you can see where they all are all around the world. That's not even all of them. That's just that I... 00:51:07.460 --> 00:51:19.300 He's got lots of spots where you don't have to do it. 00:51:19.410 --> 00:51:20.920 They don't need it. They're just Canada. 00:51:22.220 --> 00:51:28.220 This is funny because George and I had this conversation, I think, when we were driving back from Prague Power, didn't we? I think we talked about this. 00:51:28.900 --> 00:51:29.000 Yeah. 00:51:29.530 --> 00:51:32.740 You probably don't remember, but that's where I remember first hearing was from you. 00:51:34.460 --> 00:52:03.380 Well, so to answer your question, the reason that it works so nicely in the Thrasenblatt song was because, okay, long, long tangent here. So Thrasenblatt 2, Wanderer on the Continent of Saplings has a photo for the album art. And it's taken from the top of a mountain in New Runswick called Mount Carlton. And it's this fantastic vista. And so Mount Carlton is kind of, it's New Runswick's tallest mountain, but it's only like, it's like a foothill compared to most mountains. 00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:29.860 But it's still a pretty nice view. And yeah, it turns out that Mount Carleton is a dark sky sanctuary. Oh, cool. Interesting. I know when I crossed over from Maine into Canada, it was like almost immediately. I looked over at Barbara and I said, this is a Thrasenblatt cover. I was like, this looks like Wanderer. They're everywhere. They're all over New Brunswick. 00:52:34.380 --> 00:53:04.320 Would this cover just be a picture of George in a forest? Sure. I think I have one of those for when George was here. Didn't you get a photo in front of the album? I think I did. Yeah, there was one of both of us. I think we were like throwing horns and stuff. Yeah. You just wear a leaf? That will be the heavy Brunjic forest. That'll be the cover there. We're like... Oh, my. So I want to ask about Vogt. 00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:34.240 And I'm sorry if I've asked you this before, but I'm going to ask it again. So you do clean vocals, which are beautiful, but you also crank out some pretty wicked black metal harsh vocals. And do you do anything to prepare your voice for those harsher vocals, those magic vocal cords of yours? For the harsher or for the clean? For the harsher. I mean, obviously the clean, they're good. So what's funny is, 00:53:34.360 --> 00:54:04.240 One of my friends asked me, he was like, so you sing and you do the harsh, screamy things. And I was like, yeah. He's like, well, how do you still sing after doing all those harsh vocals? And so the answer was this. The only time I ever do the harsh vocals is in the studio. Right, because you haven't done an electric set. Right. And so, yeah, no, you know, I guess the Johann Hegg tactic, which is like, or maybe it's not him, but I think he uses, 00:54:04.380 --> 00:54:34.340 like tea and honey and that sort of thing and beer. But I think, you know, like lots of honey and tea usually what I do. Just, you know, keep everything nice. But do you have a technique that, you know, because I mean, I've tried to not in any like official capacity, but just and, you know, like a like a sentence in I'm like coughing and hacking and dying. And so you must there must be something you do that prevents destroying 00:54:34.380 --> 00:55:03.360 of your vocal cords. I usually do. I'll usually do, you know, a few lines and then, you know, have a sip of water and kind of get rehydrated and then keep going. But I usually get super fired up when I'm doing it, though. Like, I'm usually, like, really pumped up and, like, I'm, yeah, I'm, like, on another plane. Right. When I'm doing those. So it's like, yeah, I could, you know, you know, lift. I could throw my desk across the room if I wanted to while I'm recording these things. 00:55:03.500 --> 00:55:06.000 So I think that's my secret is I get on this like 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:06.740 You turn into the Hulk. 00:55:06.820 --> 00:55:07.400 I get on this like 00:55:07.730 --> 00:55:08.700 Yeah, I turn into the Hulk basically 00:55:08.910 --> 00:55:10.040 and then I just hammer them out. 00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:13.600 So that's kind of funny because 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:17.880 we talked about kind of transfusing from acoustic to 00:55:18.620 --> 00:55:19.980 to electric and that sort of thing. 00:55:20.260 --> 00:55:22.840 So Here I Am, a Fortress started out as a heavy song 00:55:23.780 --> 00:55:25.340 and so that bit where it's just 00:55:25.340 --> 00:55:26.020 Fortress 00:55:26.540 --> 00:55:28.780 that whole thing was obviously just 00:55:30.100 --> 00:55:31.360 in the heavy version 00:55:31.560 --> 00:55:32.000 just like a 00:55:32.000 --> 00:56:01.160 A big screen that just kind of like starts the whole song off. And I was like, well, how do I do that clean? And so I was like, well, I guess I could do like a, well, no, I don't think I can do it like Bruce Dickinson. So what would like, what would Thrasenblatt be? Like if I, if I was expecting Thrasenblatt to do a song that was like this, what would it be? And I was like, well, maybe it would be like, it's big, like long, like super deep, like yell for like, you know, a minute. 00:56:02.579 --> 00:56:31.060 And then so how would I like what word would I say? And then so shimmering or just kind of went from there. What's that? Shimmering or? Yep that one and then yeah fortress and and or. I really I really wish I'd been there for this Joel because I could have said you know I got your answer right here whistling. I don't know why I just feel like that's gonna work. Get up to your best whistle. So yeah so I got super fired up and just yelled the word fortress for as long as I could. 00:56:47.980 --> 00:57:01.880 So what if you did an evening with Thrasenblatt and had to go from one to the other? You'd probably want to do the clean stuff first, huh? I would just do the cleans. I don't think I'd bother doing the harsh in live. 00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:31.960 Even with an electric? Well, I would get someone. I think Brendan has offered to do it. He loves. His harsh voice is incredible. He loves doing it. Obsidian Tongue. Yeah, Obsidian Tongue. Check that band out. Ray's a pretty good vocalist too. That's true. Yes, absolutely. So, yeah, no, I think that it's, so, you know, every once in a while I'll listen back to some like Metathonia or Wander or whatever in the car and I'll like kind of try to sing along or like growl. 00:57:32.040 --> 00:58:01.980 and then go to a clean vocal and it's just it's two different like vocal you know acrobat is too acrobatic to go from harsh to like making proper clean singing voice uh clean singing like forms so i don't think i could even do it if i wanted to live unless i did the thing where it's like super intense whispering but i don't think that would work um as a technique live but that's a that's a skill man 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:31.980 for sure and it is like i think i don't know that you got to be born with it you can probably develop it but i even think like ronnie james dio i mean even because sometimes ronnie will like over harsh up his voice in that ronnie james dio way and then he'll go back and sing this something like a beautiful pipe organ and i'm just like i don't know this guy's just got a gift you know yeah had a gift for sure yeah excuse me had a gift indeed yeah so brendan's brendan's harsh voice is just nuts it is so for fun when we were recording the the 00:58:47.240 --> 00:58:49.900 Erste, wie ich hab das, so laut. 00:59:02.020 --> 00:59:31.400 Can you send it to me? Yeah, I'll get it. Oh, I have it on this computer. Yeah. I want to hear it. Okay, yeah, I can send it. I got to hear this. Yeah. Cool. I was just going to say, you know, we're near in the end of the year. Do you have any albums from this year that you're digging a lot? Niall's new album. I know. I know you're not always as up to date as we are. So for whatever reason, 00:59:32.000 --> 01:00:00.380 I tend to live in the musical past. It's weird to me. I like listening to a finite set of 2018 albums. They're all done now. The best ones already exist. There's a little more certainty to it. I tend to listen whenever whatever whim hits me. 01:00:02.020 --> 01:00:31.780 I don't tend to listen to new stuff for whatever reason. Until I'm like, until someone tells me that Niall has a new album, for example. Exactly. Yeah, we'll get into it when we get to the... I was going to say, hey, don't say too much, I guess. That was kind of a dumb question, actually, since you're going to talk about it later. It's kind of like how I watch sports sometimes. I don't want to watch commercials, so I'll just DVR the game. I watch whole seasons like that, John. I shit you not. 01:00:33.380 --> 01:01:01.980 Jay, are you the same way? As soon as your team goes down, you're like, well, I'm not going to sit here and watch this shit anymore. I'm going to fast forward. Fast forward and see what happens. I mean, I watch a lot of them in real time through DVR, but the truth is, yeah, man, I always do it so I can fast forward through the commercials. And all you have to really do is just listen to the Metalheads Top 25 at the end of the year. That's all you really need. That's the rough equivalent of DVRing a year. Well, this is actually what I do. Actually, sometimes I see George has 01:01:02.020 --> 01:01:31.660 George Washburn has bought this on Bandcamp and then I'll check that out here. And you're like, what the hell is he listening to? Yeah, you can't trust that. He's having a bad year, I can tell. If you just listen to the top 25, you pretty much listen to the equivalent of one year's worth of episodes. So, I mean, yeah, it works out both ways. It's Cliff Notes version of the year for the podcast. Yeah, hopefully this isn't too awkward. But, hey, Joel, 01:01:32.020 --> 01:02:00.500 At any time when George was up there, did you actually say to yourself, what the fuck was I thinking? When you guys were out in the woods and you're sitting there alone in the dark? I'm thinking not because you're here today. That's a perfect gentleman. I always kept a decent-sized branch with me. A large hunting knife? 01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:31.980 Good call. At all circumstances in life, good call. I appreciate it. If I could still do a circle around myself with the stick, then George was far enough away. George was probably wondering why there was this string that was attached to every tree you walked by just in case the lights went out. I mean, I would have used a claymore instead of a branch. Hey, tomato, tomato, man. You know, I brought some... You remember those giant-ass spiders that were by the campfire? Yeah, the wolf spiders. 01:02:36.120 --> 01:03:01.980 I cleaned out the bag recently and they did they were done yeah yeah that seems like a violation of customs I was thinking the same thing yeah you must be familiar with it when I was in Canada and you know you spend your we spend our days hiking and stuff and then inevitably end up in the hotel and you're like well I'll watch a little TV 01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:31.800 before we go to bed. And there was this show up there in Canada and it's about customs in Canada. Is there? Yeah, it's like cops, but it's just the customs of at the airports and stuff. And it's just Canadian customs officers officers in real time having adventures, you know, or whatever. No, I don't know about that. All right. Well, I was gonna say you might want to look it up, but you might not want to, but it's hilarious. Everything from drunk guys trying to talk their way to people with spiders in their bag, apparently. Yeah. Well, I mean, it was the, 01:03:32.020 --> 01:04:01.780 It was like the mic stand bag. So I didn't like need it anytime soon. And so I didn't open it for a while. And I was like, yeah, I should probably look for spiders in here. And there were. Yeah. Anyway. Stay tuned for the collapse of the American ecosystem. Yeah. They were dead. They were dead. Yeah. And George, in Canada, they call those souvenirs. Right. Yeah. All right. So I have two more questions. One is one that is my new staple that I've come up with since you were on last. So. 01:04:02.200 --> 01:04:31.460 What song or artist had a major impact on your life and why? Seriously? Seriously. That's a full understanding that there may be many, but there might be something that stands out. This is supposed to be like, you know, what made you? What was like your wow moment with music, you know? Yeah, for sure. Probably the Macarena. See, I told you guys he was going to say that. 01:04:34.420 --> 01:04:36.560 I can hear it in everything you do. 01:04:38.470 --> 01:04:39.860 Let me just think for a second about that. 01:04:39.970 --> 01:04:41.780 So will you ask the question again there, George? 01:04:42.980 --> 01:04:48.200 What song or artist had a major impact on your life and why? 01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:50.820 Okay, okay. 01:04:51.210 --> 01:04:51.880 Major impact. 01:04:52.370 --> 01:04:52.880 Major impact. 01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:59.340 You know, what song or artist made you go, dang, music is awesome. 01:05:00.340 --> 01:05:01.200 Maybe shark. 01:05:01.300 --> 01:05:30.320 That might be something I want to do. I mean, I've been trying to get some hand motions into Throssimut songs, but I can't quite get anything that is as catchy as Baby Shark. So I think, let me just, it could be, it could be that moment when people ask another stereotypical question. Wait, did you just say that was stereotypical? 01:05:35.480 --> 01:06:01.260 I thought it was actually interesting because I'm curious how what people you know no it's a good question I'm just giving you a hard time I'm never asking that question again now you have killed my question we can we can re-spin it we can we can rework it and to make it a six million dollar question okay I can rework it for you what artist had no influence on you 01:06:02.980 --> 01:06:31.120 So there's the other question. When did you get into heavy metal? And how? And why? And that sort of thing. And so for me, it was listening to... I downloaded Guitar Pro when I was like 14. And I think I wanted to learn a Metallica song or something. Then I downloaded this new tab that had just arrived on my songbook or whatever. And it was Lake Bodom by Children of Bodom. And then I pressed play. 01:06:31.300 --> 01:07:00.700 And that was the most melodious, dark, amazing, complex thing I'd ever heard in my life. And I was like, what is this? And so then that was when music just went woof for me. Yeah, it went woof. Like a dog. Yeah, I think that whole, I think Children of Bodom's, yeah, the first two albums were pretty, pretty, they're super rich and complex and really catchy at the same time. 01:07:01.300 --> 01:07:31.260 So I think that could that I mean that's a that's as good an answer as any it is that's a good answer to a bad question apparently you just gotta rework it like if I did a song that was just you know a minor c g and f over and over and over again you'd be like that's a stereo song you gotta rework it so we're just iterating over this for you there George anyway sorry but yeah no yeah I think there's sorry I think I'm still answering I think I'm still answering the question there are many 01:07:31.280 --> 01:08:00.600 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, Death or Tall, another one that's like the... It's when I listen to songs from the wood for the first time. Songs from my wood. Really, dude. No joke. Want to share your favorite track off that record? Man, I think that... Well, they're also fantastic, but I think the first side of that record is just nuts. Like, the opening track, 01:08:01.260 --> 01:08:31.140 Jack in the Green. I think Jack in the Green is probably my favorite. But I'll tell you, the Sils of the Spells, you could think it was a goofy song. Sils of the Spells is awesome, dude. I love that song. I love it. I thought you would. I figured you would too. I love that. I think the fact that Hunting Girl might be the earliest instance of double kick drums, like a double kick groove. Right, right, right, right. I love that fact about Songs from the Wood. I'm sure you've seen it. 01:08:31.279 --> 01:09:00.420 There's some pretty good live footage out there of that tour. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a that's a pretty outstanding record. It. Yeah. Yeah. It takes folkiness and adds it to progginess and all wrapped up in a medium that is super palatable and and yeah, listenable and the lyrics complement it perfectly. OK. So, Joel, you like baseball, right? 01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:01.640 Absolutely. 01:09:02.710 --> 01:09:03.680 Did you watch the World Series? 01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:06.540 Aren't you excited that the Expos won the World Series? 01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:09.920 Oh, man. 01:09:10.839 --> 01:09:11.560 Poutine, man. 01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:15.020 No. 01:09:15.460 --> 01:09:16.040 No poutine. 01:09:16.339 --> 01:09:16.580 No. 01:09:16.589 --> 01:09:17.740 Well, you can't make it here. 01:09:17.839 --> 01:09:19.140 We were talking this morning. 01:09:19.940 --> 01:09:22.540 Because that destroyed my pillow for four days. 01:09:26.160 --> 01:09:26.940 Yeah, so. 01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:28.580 Oh, that's right. 01:09:28.630 --> 01:09:29.319 That was poutine. 01:09:29.799 --> 01:09:30.560 I forgot. 01:09:30.779 --> 01:10:00.700 Wasn't that vegetarian poutine? I was like, it was. I went to the Washington Nationals won the World Series this year, which is our local team, which is my local team. And I went to the victory parade today down in Washington, D.C. And I mentioned it to Joel this morning. And I was like, yeah, it's going to be crazy busy. And you were like, it's just a bunch of Expos fans eating poutine or something like that. And I was like, man, 01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:29.720 You can't even make a good poutine around here because you can't get cheese curds in the store. It's illegal to sell that shit in the U.S. It is. Well, there's certain places you can, but you can't around here. Oh, your Canadian curds. Yeah, well, because I was reading about it and it's something like you can have the cheese curds if they've aged for like long enough that all the stuff has died in that. 01:10:30.800 --> 01:11:00.460 Because the American cheese laws are messed up. And you can't get good cheese in this country. Because they definitely died in Jay's ass. Yes. That's for sure. There's a whole story there, Jill. There's some context missing there. I've looked and you can't get cheese curds around here. I grew up on cheese curds because I grew up in Wisconsin. Well, Wisconsin's probably, you know, they're like, fuck you, we're Wisconsin. Cheese curds. I was going to say, 01:11:01.340 --> 01:11:29.700 What's that map? I benefited from being on the border, too. Yeah. They must be in every store. They smuggled cheese over the border. Absolutely. Well, I don't live in Chicago now, but I mean, I can get them anytime. Yeah. Right. I didn't have to put them in my butt to get them across the border. Yeah. Anyway, so, yeah, Washington Nationals won the World Series. 01:11:30.800 --> 01:12:00.380 Did you watch any of that, Joel? Yeah, I watched most of it, yeah. I was amazed that the home team lost every home game. That's nuts. Such a stat. That's such a neat stat. And nobody, at least in my brief reading of the media, nobody really talked about it until the last game. I talked about it during the series a lot, on the broadcast. And I was like, leading into the game seven, I was like, man, everybody's talking about it. 01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:06.500 team's gonna win now just to fuck it up yeah yeah but like a no-hitter you don't talk about it 01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:14.240 yeah yeah i love what announcer on the if there's a hit on the first pitch in the first inning i love it that the announcer is like well there goes the no-hitter but 01:12:15.580 --> 01:12:21.340 yes i do want to say quickly for your nationals i have one comment i have to make and it's just that that anthony rendome 01:12:21.340 --> 01:12:28.119 game six and game seven both turned on that guy's at bat and that guy has got his veins dude i saw he looks like he 01:12:28.140 --> 01:12:58.100 He doesn't give a fuck about how big he is. I saw him today and I was like, he's dreamy. He's a dreamy free agent. Yeah, I know. He's not coming back, but he's dreamy. What were you saying, John? Hey, George, who told you not to be a quitter after game five? You? You know, I actually predicted it in my heart after the wildcard win. I am the reason they won this World 01:12:58.140 --> 01:13:02.940 series. I'd like you to back that up with some facts. 01:13:03.080 --> 01:13:05.520 There are no, there literally is no concrete facts. 01:13:05.900 --> 01:13:08.320 This is Superstition 101. 01:13:10.060 --> 01:13:20.860 Every single game from wild card to the end of the world series where they did badly, I went to, I turned it off and went to bed. 01:13:20.900 --> 01:13:23.980 And as soon as I turned it off and went to bed, they turned it around and won. 01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:26.400 Did you watch game seven? 01:13:26.740 --> 01:13:56.160 I watched game seven to the sixth and a half inning. I said, they're going to lose. I went to bed. Seventh inning, they turned it around and won. And they did that every single time. Now, they turned it around before six. And when was it? No, no, it was it was two. I think it was two. It might have been two to one when I went to bed. But OK, and it was in six. Yeah. And then like seventh inning was like Rendon's home run. And. 01:13:56.740 --> 01:14:26.640 Yeah, no, but every, you know, I'm not really a superstitious person and I don't believe any of this. This is just funny bullshit that I'm making up, but. So what happened to be DVR the game then? John, I was going to just bring that up. Well, I DVR game seven so that I could then come back and watch it. John, I am literally, I have superstitions that tell me I can change the result of the game on my DVR somehow. I, oh, or the worst. Every World Series that the Giants won, the three, 01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:56.540 they won. I literally DVR'd every game. I was so nervous, you know, because it was so long since they won, that I couldn't sit there and wait during the commercials because I was like, what the fuck's going to happen next inning? That just drove me nuts. And now here you are giving me shit. Now here you are giving me shit. You're just walking away. You're like, fuck this, I'm out of here. Yeah, I'm giving you shit because you quit on me after game five and I had to remind you that when the Giants won it was in 2012, they had to come back in every series, minus the World Series. 01:14:56.600 --> 01:15:26.500 to get back in. Well, and you're like, I know, I know. Well, by the end of game five, I was like, gee, the, I was onto the whole home team doesn't win. And I was like, secretly thinking, well, you know, six and seven are away. We could win those. Oh, I see. I thought you guys had a much better chance because you can't hit at home, but you get into that freaking, I don't even know. It's like the old place where the Atlanta Braves used to play. It's like a launching pad in there. You pop the ball up and it goes over the fence and left field. So apparently that's what happens. 01:15:26.600 --> 01:15:56.580 several times for the Nats in game six and seven. One of the other interesting data points is Verlander has never pitched a winning game in this World Series. I saw that. I was like, what? Really? Fuck him. He's got every accolade you can have, including a World Series ring. And to be fair, though, they were winning when he went out in game six or whatever it was that he pitched. Yeah, it was game six. I think they were ahead when he went out. But it was great. I'm glad to know you love 01:15:56.600 --> 01:15:58.420 I'm not sure that I knew that about you and 01:15:58.840 --> 01:16:03.000 this was a fun playoffs for sure yeah yeah absolutely at the parade today there were a lot of 01:16:03.110 --> 01:16:18.040 people chanting let's go Nats and I'm like let's go Nats let's go Nats you know it's funny I'm not at all being sarcastic Joel if it's a negative answer but what are the Expos like right now because to be honest with you we don't play them ever really so 01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:26.580 the Expos are you serious Jay what are you an Expos fan you know you know Expos I'm sorry I'm sorry not 01:16:26.620 --> 01:16:56.560 That's not what I meant to say. Who was your favorite team? I know the Expos are dead. What's that? You're saying, were you thinking Blue Jays? Yeah, yeah. I apologize. That is literally just a brain fart. Yeah, no, that's great. No, it just, you know, opens the wound again that the Expos aren't there. I'm sorry. I apologize. Yeah, so my dad's a huge Red Sox fan because getting all the radio that you get 01:16:56.580 --> 01:17:25.740 He listened to the game. It was all the Red Sox when he was younger. So he's a big Red Sox fan and I'm a big Red Sox fan. That's right. Blue Jays are my kind of like, it's like, you know, sometimes it's you like major in something in college and you also have a minor. So like the Red Sox are my major and Blue Jays are kind of my minor. Sure. I knew there was a reason I liked you. I'm a big Red Sox are my main team. Oh, yeah. Very good. Yeah. Yeah. We were chatting a little bit when the Red Sox won the last time. Yes. Yes. We were like, 01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:55.220 and they're like oh they're screwed no all right cool so before we get going into the news let's talk about what we are drinking joel are you drinking anything yeah what do you got i've got uh i've got some maybe brewery i've had that yes did you remember which one you have uh i had a couple of them i got a couple i got like a pale ale and 01:17:58.400 --> 01:18:24.100 I think I got a stout maybe. There are 11 Z's, espresso stout. Yeah. Well, what do you have? I've got the Roseway Red, just the classic red from Maybes. Doesn't have that one. Didn't have that one? I didn't buy that one. I think you might have actually had some of that. Yeah, it's one of, it's probably, yeah, it's probably my favorite brewery in Burderton. I have like the 12 that have exploded in the last, you know, five years. 01:18:25.220 --> 01:18:28.260 that one of your beer stores there while we were in town right before we left so that 01:18:28.260 --> 01:18:33.200 could bring some stuff back and it was like christmas man it was like look at all this stuff 01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:41.780 i was like a little bit of this little bit of that it was good all right uh matt what are you 01:18:41.900 --> 01:18:48.480 drinking i've got a uh i've got a double ipa called all caps and it is from a brewery called black stack 01:18:48.480 --> 01:19:18.420 over in St. Paul. All caps. That's a thing here in D.C. Because that was like the last year during the Stanley Cup run. That was our hashtag all caps. I like it. Honestly, I thought that was a Twitter reference, but okay. You said that's a thing here in D.C. Yeah, well, it was, you know. I mean, I thought you were talking about Trump. Sorry, I think I skipped. 01:19:18.500 --> 01:19:48.200 What are you drinking? I have a beer called Okole Maluna. And it's from Lanakai Brewing. It is a chocolate helpia imperial style with cocoa nibs from Oahu. It's like a very limited edition imperial style. 10.4%. Nice. You know, low for me. You usually warm up with some mead, right? Yeah, you know, I got my first shipment from Brimminghorn. 01:19:49.180 --> 01:20:17.720 So yeah, no problems. It came right away. I just haven't cracked open any of the meats yet. Good. You don't have to feel like you're out in the middle of the ocean now. Not that it's not a lovely place to be, but good. Yeah. Yeah. All right. John, what are you drinking? So my first beer was from Bell's Black Note Stout from 2017, which I didn't realize I had in the back of my fridge. So I drank that. 01:20:18.300 --> 01:20:47.180 That's one of my favorite all-time beers, John, and they didn't make it last year. For some reason, they just didn't do it. So that is a rare one. And now I'm drinking something called Purple Black Eye, which is an imperial stout with coffee in it. It's actually counterculture coffee from Asheville, North Carolina, and this beer is made by Ocelot, which is a local brewery that you hear us mention a lot on the podcast. Yep. 01:20:48.300 --> 01:21:18.200 Well, not that this means I wouldn't be able to have beer, but I'm getting ready to eat supper. It's a separate time here, so mine will be later. My wife is grabbing the sandwiches as we speak, so you guys are going to have to watch me eat, and I apologize. That's never happened before. I know. I know. I know. I know. It's going to be weird. It'll be Jersey Mike's. We're having Jersey Mike's. Nice. Yeah, so on the way back from the Nats parade, I stopped at the store and picked up a sweet wine. 01:21:18.320 --> 01:21:48.260 which is out of Atlanta and I was actually just there like a month ago. This is a 20th anniversary Imperial IPA and it's been good. I'm just about done with it. Hey Joel have you ever had the beer called Peche Mortel? It's my favorite Canadian beer. It's from Brasserie. I'm going to butcher this because it's French. It's like Brasserie do 01:21:48.300 --> 01:21:50.520 CL or something like that is the name of the brewery. 01:21:52.540 --> 01:21:55.420 Yeah, I know the one you're talking about, but I haven't had that beer. 01:21:56.560 --> 01:22:11.780 Oh, it's my favorite. It's a double American Imperial double stout. Get that. It's one of my favorite stouts of all time. And I used to get it in Chicago. I don't think I'm going to get it here, but if you get it, I can live vicariously through you. 01:22:12.820 --> 01:22:17.540 Well, I'll have to look out for it. Yeah. No, I like a good stout. So yeah, I have my, 01:22:18.240 --> 01:22:34.900 I've been sticking to the kind of New Brunswick breweries because there's so many. They're just popping up and there's so many new beers to try every basically month. That's my favorite Canadian beer by far. Very good. All right, let's move on to the news. 01:22:48.180 --> 01:23:14.940 First news item. Carcass are releasing a new song called Under the Scalpel Blade via Decibel. I'm presuming this is going to be a flexi? It is, but unclear as to whether it's just an outtake from the studio sessions or is it something on the forthcoming album? I don't think they've announced that, but either way, it's a new carcass, a new song. Totally on a typical title for them. 01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:47.600 I know this was the new Carcass album was listed as one of our anticipated albums for this year. Obviously, that's not happening. Two years. Obviously, that's not happening this year. Maybe next year. I stopped getting flexes with my decibel subscription because I just didn't play them that much. But I know they release them on SoundCloud. So it's going to be nice to get a preview. Even if it's not on the album, it's going to be newer. So that's kind of cool to get some new music Carcass. I fully intend to go under this new blade and let it go. 01:23:47.660 --> 01:24:17.480 cut me deep, as Matt would say. Let it cut you deep. No show. No show. And I was not aware of this until Marcuson mentioned it, but apparently chemists are working on a new album for next year as well. Yes. And the first thing that needs to be said is fuck Jay. Fuck Jay. I'm really excited to not put this on my list. You never know. You could be like, whoa. 01:24:17.640 --> 01:24:43.860 Hey, I get it this time. I mean, I'm super excited for it. I mean, Hunted and Desolation were my number one albums in 2016 and 2018. And Absolution was in my top 10 in 2015. So Chemists, I guess they're my favorite band. I guess I have to say they're my favorite band right now. So I'm really excited for number four. I definitely have more Chemists shirts than anybody else. I think probably Thrasenblatt comes in second there. 01:24:46.320 --> 01:25:14.500 We got to put up more shirts. Yeah, if you had more shirts, I would have them and you would be in the lead. You just don't have more shirts. You could literally just put up one shirt up on Bandcamp and George would nail them all and you could get them all out and you recoup the cost with no problems. Yeah, every time you're like, gosh, I really need to put a new addition on the house. You could be like, you know what? Put some shirts up, George. I'll fucking take care of this. It's not that bad. All right. 01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:46.300 So Decibel Metal and Beer Fest 2020 has announced some of the first bands and breweries. I only wrote down the bands though. So if you were to go next year, and I encourage you to go, particularly you, Joel, you would see Napalm Death doing Harmony Corruption and Utopia Banished, because Napalm Death albums are like 10 minutes long. 20 minutes. Anyway, also Pig Destroyer doing 01:25:46.400 --> 01:26:16.300 Prowler in the yard. A very grind-centric set so far. Converge doing Jane Doe. I'm not a fan, but I know people are. Mayhem will also be there. They just announced Abbott, which I have not seen Abbott before, so I would like to see that. That'll be cool, actually. Satan, the British band, the British heavy metal band, Satan, will be there. We saw them a couple years ago at MDF. Did we see them standing underneath 01:26:16.320 --> 01:26:46.060 the bridge, like just getting rained on for like an hour. No, no, no. We did an interview with them. We went back to their trailer. Yeah, yeah. With Satan? You guys did, but I stood underneath the bridge. Oh, while they were playing. While they were playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. I thought you meant they were all huddling, looking for a shelter. But yeah, yeah, they were playing while it rained, yeah. Also, there will be Night Demon, Idle Hands, who I'll be seeing next week with King Diamond, Un, or is it pronounced Un? 01:26:47.160 --> 01:27:16.160 Yeah. Magic circle and haunt. So. Can I ask you a question, George, real quick? You may. Did you, and I don't want to induce any panic because I'm sure they'll get ahold of you, but have you gotten any, um, thing, any information about the King Diamond meetup yet? I have not. I, I have been in a bit of a panic because I have the VIP tickets, which means I get to do the meet and greet, get a picture with King. Uh, all of that. 01:27:16.340 --> 01:27:46.240 stuff, but don't worry about it. So Jamie, are you saying you have your stuff? No, no, no, no. I only asked because I was wondering what happens, but yeah, I looked at it today. I was like, I'm up first. I was like, did, are any of you guys before me? I'm like, no, it's me. I'm God damn it. So yeah, they, but I mean, it's, it's usually within a couple of days. Yeah. A couple of days. So it's a week from Monday is when today's Saturday. So we, you know, in a week and two days is, is the King Diamond show. 01:27:46.320 --> 01:28:16.280 I would expect in the next three or four days to hear something. If not, there's an email address I'm supposed to be able to use, like info at whatever the people are. They're not thinking about it until they get close because they don't know that building. They may know it, but they don't really know it. And, you know, so I wouldn't. Yeah, they'll take care of you. What worries me is it's like it could be a couple hours before showtime. That's why. And I'm like, well, I need to know when I need to be there then. Because, you know, if doors are at six and show is 01:28:16.320 --> 01:28:46.240 is at 7 and the meet and greets at 2. I need to know this. I don't think it'll be that early to be honest. Anytime I've done a meet and greet, it's usually only about maybe a minute maximum, an hour before a door. Yeah, 6 or 7 o'clock, something like that. That's my guess too, yeah. So we'll see, but... Wow. Moreover too, I mean, I don't blame anybody who doesn't like spoilers in their life, but he's playing his first show on his tour tonight, so I intend to look up the set list. Yes, I was going to do that too. And the beer, 01:28:46.320 --> 01:28:53.720 got released today yeah that's right man i really yes were you there are you do you have it come on i do i have it i 01:28:53.900 --> 01:29:00.460 thought he might be like that's what he's drinking tonight no i had some last night um it was good i didn't i 01:29:00.660 --> 01:29:05.740 honestly like i walked into my liquor store yesterday uh just to stock up for the weekend and there was like 01:29:06.180 --> 01:29:11.460 the new darkness got released and then there was like jesus you suck you're good here goes my 01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:41.440 I mean you don't suck but hey Matt what's the monster this year I'm sorry did you notice what the label was for this year for darkness uh yeah it was like some sort of creature on top of the brewery oh it's awesome yeah it was pretty sweet drawing because every year it's it's different which is yeah well they actually they ask artists to uh yeah yeah the drawings and then they pick an artist to do it so that's kind of cool and well I would say this like getting it is um I'm not at like 01:29:41.440 --> 01:30:11.040 I'm not going to wait in line for hours to get it, but I do try and get myself at least one bottle every year. And this was the easiest year. Like I walk in and it was just on a table and it said, certainly dark 2019, no limit. And I, and then, and then they had darkness from like 13 and 17 on a separate table. And I asked, I got the liquor store. I'm like, this is the darkness from this year. He goes, yeah, I go, cause there's like so much of it and there's no limit. So it was kind of odd, but yeah. Well, it's kind of like that last year. Like I could still get, you know, 2018. 01:30:11.460 --> 01:30:41.260 in all the stores in Chicago. Okay. Cool. Before I left. So I think because there's just so many craft brews out there, there's so many selections that people don't feel they have to have that specific one anymore. You can get something similar at another brewery. Yeah, but Mark, I think they're actually producing more of it, though, too. Are they? Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Well, they expanded that festival, too, John. Yeah. It's moving to a new place. It's much bigger now. Yeah, because we actually can get darkness down here. 01:30:41.460 --> 01:31:11.400 But we were getting like the 2016 and 2018. So I'm thinking that they've expanded their production a little bit. Thank you. But George, as pertains to the Black Horseman, though, they reiterated that when King Diamond announced it on his Facebook page again, and he was like, they are serving it at some of the stops. Some, I know. And then he refers you to the website, which just seems to be a locator of where they sell the beer in general. So I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if it'll be this far away. 01:31:13.420 --> 01:31:19.240 I'll see I'll look I'll ask him personally hopefully like dude we're gonna get your beer 01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:26.200 and getting back to the decibel metal and beer festival I'm excited about going to the fest because I get to 01:31:26.320 --> 01:31:33.420 hang out with you guys but yes the the lineup announces I think is is decent but I'm not as jazzed overall 01:31:33.620 --> 01:31:38.440 about the bands as I was last year I know they're gonna do another wave of it but I'm pumped to see 01:31:38.440 --> 01:32:04.040 Napal Death, due to classic albums, especially Harmony Corruption, which is definitely death metal and not as much grind. And I love Night Demon and Un. Yeah, Un is really cool. And I have not seen either of them live, so I'm looking forward to that. And I'm really, really hoping we see Abbott sprint in slow motion, pick up a conveniently placed torch and set something on fire like he did in that Harvest Fire video. 01:32:06.680 --> 01:32:36.060 Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing Abbott. And while Pig Destroyer was at Decibel like two years ago, seeing them do this album would be cool. So I'm looking forward to that. Actually, Marcus, I just want to see Abbott every time I walk somewhere in Philadelphia with you guys. I want to see him just pop up around the corner, just pose and then run down the street. And they're like, there he is again. He's everywhere. That would be great. 01:32:37.300 --> 01:33:06.580 He could just be randomly at the bar like throughout the festival. That'd be awesome. Yeah. Have you seen that? He sells they had a t-shirt. I saw him when he actually did the decibel tour when you and I saw that. Yep. And one of the t-shirts you could probably still get the shirt. One of the shirts is him and the other guys at that time who were in the band crossing the Abbey Road. And it says the bath road on it. I've been to Abbey Road. I love that he's in on the joke. 01:33:06.680 --> 01:33:36.320 You know what I mean? Like, and I love him, but I mean, he's tongue in cheek. Mm hmm. So Joel, you're going to go to decibel next year. When is it? April. April. Third and fourth, I believe. Where is it? Philadelphia. Philadelphia. It's not that far. Yeah, it's only a 16 to 20 hour drive. Hey, I drove 14 hours to get to you. That's like a 14 or 15 hour flight. 01:33:39.860 --> 01:33:45.480 I don't expect it but I thought I'd put it out there because it would be awesome I appreciate the 01:33:45.600 --> 01:34:05.760 invite yes it would be awesome we had Trevor with us last year from Ashen Horde that was awesome that's awesome how far did he have to go LA pretty good yeah he walked yeah you know what strangely though he couldn't make it to the LA one 01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:33.340 So, yeah, just putting it out there, you know, would love to have you with us. Much appreciated. Much appreciated. All right. He probably doesn't want to go because there's no forest. That's one problem. Yeah. He loses his superpowers if he's not near a forest. Yeah. I go from six foot five to, you know, five foot ten. Hey, down to my level. 01:34:35.760 --> 01:34:37.780 thing, though, we stayed on a boat while we were there. 01:34:38.580 --> 01:34:39.180 Yeah, that's true. 01:34:40.060 --> 01:34:45.600 Hey, Jill, if you need a force, we can just go to Pensatucky, which is a joke if you're from out here. 01:34:46.160 --> 01:34:48.620 And trust me, you'll want to go back to Philadelphia. 01:34:52.940 --> 01:34:53.500 All right. 01:34:53.720 --> 01:34:59.380 So Judas Priest are going to release a Judas Priest spiced rum. 01:35:01.280 --> 01:35:02.460 I'm not sure where that came from. 01:35:02.640 --> 01:35:04.560 It's like not really a British thing. 01:35:06.240 --> 01:35:33.980 It's all tied into the 50th anniversary. All this stuff is gonna be. Yeah, right. But regardless, I'm gonna try and get some. Well, I mean, we were talking about rubber earlier. It's one of my all time favorite spirits and I would be excited about this except right now it's only gonna be available in Sweden for some fucking reason. God damn it. That's what I read and it I love the description of it. It's supposed to metal punch you with spicy notes of Arak, vanilla, burnt sugar and raisins. 01:35:36.140 --> 01:36:04.660 The Rum is Rum with a Touch of Evil, which is, of course, from the song. Yes. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. So I don't know if it's going to come here or if we can get it, because right now it's just going to be in Sweden. Why? Whenever I think of a Touch of Evil or metal or anything like that, raisins do come to mind. So this sounds like it could be a real deal. Yeah. Speaking of Priest, Judas Priest and Motorhead are among the nominees for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 01:36:04.740 --> 01:36:07.540 this year. Before we talk about that, 01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:09.420 as any further, I just want to mention, 01:36:09.900 --> 01:36:11.880 fuck the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 01:36:12.760 --> 01:36:13.160 Agreed. 01:36:13.740 --> 01:36:15.340 But it'd be really cool if they got in. 01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:18.180 Well, you can vote right now. 01:36:18.240 --> 01:36:20.740 I voted every day since it went live on the fan vote. 01:36:21.300 --> 01:36:23.000 You can vote every single day. 01:36:23.360 --> 01:36:25.980 And Judas Priest is currently fifth on the fan vote. 01:36:26.200 --> 01:36:28.940 And why the hell is Thin Lizzy not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? 01:36:30.080 --> 01:36:30.840 Well, I'm sorry. 01:36:31.040 --> 01:36:32.680 Judas Priest deserves to get him before them. 01:36:32.760 --> 01:36:33.320 No, I know. 01:36:33.560 --> 01:36:34.100 But seriously. 01:37:00.320 --> 01:37:00.620 Segui, sim, é o que é? 01:37:04.220 --> 01:37:34.180 all the guys will get it now because there's no one to induct them for there's no one in the band that would be in that classic period because they've all passed away yeah you know um speaking of motorhead just as a quick off shoot uh there's a was a recently released a uh documentary on the rainbow in los angeles yeah i watched it i totally recommend it it's totally worth watching it's got let me in and he was still alive at the time but that's that place has some fucking history dude like like more than i 01:37:34.540 --> 01:38:04.120 That was the highlight was standing right next to the game in the corner when I was there. I was like, wow. Yeah, I want to sit down, but I really don't want to sit down. I'm afraid. Did you look at the high scores? Were all the high scores still learning? I was afraid to just walk over there. You didn't want to go there. Yeah. I was like, I don't want to bust the karma up on this thing. Yeah. Dude, I just found a quote from Bruce Dickinson about the Hall of Fame. It's pretty awesome. And he said, the Hall of Fame is run by a bunch of sanctimonious, bloody Americans. 01:38:04.200 --> 01:38:33.740 who wouldn't know rock and roll if it hit him in the face. They need to stop taking Prozac and start drinking fucking beer. Well, see, the thing is that it has nothing to do with being Americans. It just has to do with the fact that they're all Rolling Stone editors that choose who goes in. That's what happens. It's just bullshit. Yeah. Is that true, Jeff? Really? Yeah, I believe Rolling Stone has a significant influence on it because when Rush got inducted, which was just so – this is why I want Made to Go because, 01:38:34.200 --> 01:39:03.040 When Rush got inducted, I think 75% of the people that got the tickets were Rush fans. They weren't celebrities. And when Jan Verner came out, they booed him so loud. He had to step away from the mic, and they just kept booing him. It's like, all right, come on. And they just would not stop booing him. That's why Maiden has to go in, because if Maiden goes in, all the fans will boo Jan Verner, who's the biggest prick on the planet. He's a deuce, dude. I hate that guy. I think Dickinson said that he wouldn't go, though, if they ever got in. 01:39:03.140 --> 01:39:31.140 They should go and they should just play the three or four most nonpopular maiden songs just to piss them off. What would you pick, John, for those songs? Because that'd be interesting. I would do everything off of Book of Souls. Hey, fuck you. I like that album. I do too. I like it as well. You know what I do? I play all of A Matter of Life and Death straight for all those fans who've never seen it before. 01:39:33.140 --> 01:40:03.100 It's been done before, but... None of the hits. All right. So Devin Townsend has announced a winter 2020 North American tour, and I expect John has a ticket. Yes. Did you hear what he's doing with these tours? No. He's got, like, all these different versions of this tour for Empath. This is, like, version two, which is cool and all, but version three is the one I want to see where he's going to go full 01:40:03.140 --> 01:40:33.100 and metal and he's bringing back all the strapping songs. But that's like a summer thing, right? Yeah. And so it's a really long tour cycle. But version two is going to be, I think, it's going to be a little heavier, but it's going to be a lot of Ampeth stuff. Cool. He's apparently going to play the whole thing all the way straight through somewhere, probably London again or something like that. He'll do that. Right on. Yeah. So there was a news item about four new 01:40:33.140 --> 01:40:40.700 species being named after members of iron maiden the scorpions deaf leopard and angra i think uh 01:40:42.020 --> 01:40:47.860 somebody one of you guys sent me this yeah i did and it was only because well not only because but 01:40:48.350 --> 01:40:52.520 i had just heard it on national public radio and they had an interview with the lady 01:40:53.280 --> 01:40:58.580 it's a woman uh biologist who did this and uh angry are they from brazil they're from brazil yeah 01:40:58.580 --> 01:41:28.080 Yeah, and that's where she's from. Yeah, and she actually was – it was a really thoughtful interview, and she was like, it's hard to come up with names, and you find spiders all the time. So she chooses her favorite sports figures and stuff. Long story short, she's a big metal head, and it was pretty cool to hear her talk about how it was fun to honor her favorite musicians that way. I love the scientific name. So for like Bruce Dickinson version, the Iron Man. Extraordinarius. 01:41:28.600 --> 01:41:29.900 Bruce Ickinson. Yeah. 01:41:32.080 --> 01:41:34.620 This lady should be one of the judges for the rock and roll. 01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:35.040 Yeah. 01:41:35.780 --> 01:41:35.960 Yeah. 01:41:37.360 --> 01:41:37.720 Incidentally, 01:41:38.720 --> 01:41:41.780 Klaus Mina reached out to her and said, 01:41:41.830 --> 01:41:47.680 could he have some sort of certification or certification that they did to do this thing or something, 01:41:47.800 --> 01:41:49.220 which I thought was really cool that he did that, 01:41:49.300 --> 01:41:49.500 you know? 01:41:49.790 --> 01:41:50.640 And so a, 01:41:50.760 --> 01:41:52.960 she kind of got to talk to some of her heroes because of this too. 01:41:53.100 --> 01:41:53.620 So good for her. 01:41:53.720 --> 01:41:54.080 She said, 01:41:54.250 --> 01:41:56.140 she said that he has her autograph now. 01:41:57.200 --> 01:41:57.480 That's right. 01:41:57.580 --> 01:42:26.340 That's really cool. Did they mention who they picked from Angra? Because Angra is massive in Brazil. It's the guitar player. It's a singer that just passed away then? Andre Mateos? Excuse me. And she had also had, because of being in Brazil, I don't know that she was friends with the guy, but she had a kind of connection to him and would see him at shows and stuff. All right, last news item. 01:42:27.580 --> 01:42:55.620 Napal Death singer Barney Greenway has said that they are almost ready to release a new album. So I would expect that in early, hopefully early 2020, we will have a new Napalm Death album. I am very much looking forward to that. Their last two albums have been fucking killer. And I'm, yeah, anyway, big Napalm Death album. It's good news. I know that they're going to play their classic albums at the Decimal Metal and Beer Festival. 01:42:57.620 --> 01:43:18.580 They got time, don't they? They're like, well, it's been 10 minutes. We've played the first two albums there. All right. Well, let's move on to new releases. 01:43:28.540 --> 01:43:57.560 The First New Release 1349 released The Infernal Pathway, which is their seventh album. I know Jay's a big fan of this one, so I'm going to let him talk about that. Well, Matt should chime in. We both chose it as our album of the month. These guys have been moving towards, I wouldn't call it a more produced, I don't know how to explain it, but they've kind of approached a slightly witchery-esque goat whore-ish 01:43:57.620 --> 01:44:27.560 kind of place now where they have a little bit better production which you know i had some of the older productions were choices i don't mean to say it's better and honestly it's catchy as hell and matt made a point of pointing out the riffs it's got massive killer riffs all the way through it i can't recommend it enough it's great yeah and they're not i mean they're black metal riffs but they're at times they're not black metal riffs i hear all sorts of other genres just melding in the riffs and i don't know to me i just can't help but be caught by them when they play them 01:44:27.580 --> 01:44:28.340 So, awesome. 01:44:28.630 --> 01:44:32.980 Now, that's stated, I think, that meant that all that other genre stuff. 01:44:33.370 --> 01:44:35.920 It's because these guys really are truly old-school black metal. 01:44:36.300 --> 01:44:38.580 And you've got to remember that when old-school black metal was coming out, 01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:40.540 the last band that was huge was the Scorpions. 01:44:40.590 --> 01:44:40.980 You know what I mean? 01:44:42.080 --> 01:44:44.200 So a lot of those guys were pulling from that stuff. 01:44:44.340 --> 01:44:46.120 So it's truly old-school black metal. 01:44:46.790 --> 01:44:47.180 Great stuff. 01:44:47.700 --> 01:44:47.900 Yeah. 01:44:48.680 --> 01:44:50.280 Scorpions, also not in the Hall of Fame. 01:44:50.860 --> 01:44:51.220 Fuck. 01:44:52.020 --> 01:44:52.580 Son of a bitch. 01:44:54.940 --> 01:45:15.860 Yeah, no, I love the guitar tone on that album, The Infernal Pathway. Just really super aggressive, speedy black metal bangers, you know? Yeah. There's always, like, the two versions of black metal, you know, the one that has, like, the big riffs and the one that's kind of, like, that's discordant shrieking. And this is definitely the one that really just rips. It's a great album. 01:45:17.240 --> 01:45:45.680 Next up we have Hour of Penance Misotheism. It's the eighth album from an Italian death metal band. And I have to admit, I haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but I've listened to a couple songs and it's pretty good. Has anybody else listened to this? I haven't listened yet. I listened to it, George. I mean, it's pretty well produced death metal. It's pretty good. I thought it was a little bit one note. I probably need a little bit more time with it, but it was pretty good. Yeah, I liked it. 01:45:47.000 --> 01:46:16.100 Next up we have Mayhem. The true Mayhem. And their sixth album, Damon. This is another one that I have not spent enough time with. I've listened to a couple of tracks and I like it. I mean, you know, Mayhem. You go. It's Mayhem. Well, it's like. The whole the historical aspect of Mayhem. 01:46:16.620 --> 01:46:44.180 And, you know, half the members aren't even members from back then. But Attila's there, and Necrobutcher's there, and Hellhammer's there. But whatever. I like what I hear so far. Yeah, I thought, I've only listened to like three or four songs. I thought it was kind of hearkening back to their earlier period. It was cool. I think Attila has a very distinct sound to his voice, which makes them stand out. 01:46:45.600 --> 01:47:13.820 You cannot, there's a rule, by the way, apparently, because people are following it, which is you cannot review a Mayhem record without mentioning said historical. Yeah. You just can't. At the first paragraph, you've got to start there. That's where you start. Half of its members are good. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. They get a bit of reverence for what they've accomplished. But this album, it's really good. I think I like this one better than the last couple, for sure. I would think, yeah, the same way. 01:47:13.860 --> 01:47:43.660 I mean, esoteric warfare made my list that year, but that was like the first year of the podcast, I think. But yeah, it's like you almost want to sneer at it because it's like you're kind of riding the coattails of the first album. But at the same time, it's good music. So, yeah. Did you all see like that? Did I just read that Necrobutcher claimed that he was on his way to kill? 01:47:43.860 --> 01:48:13.820 What the fuck was that? Instead of VARC too? No, he didn't make that claim. He said he wanted to kill him and then somebody else on his behalf said they were. Just in time for the new album to come out and the big new tour coming out. Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, it's funny you say that because this is the first album since the movie too. Yeah, true. Which I assume brought them some visibility. Did you see that movie, Joel? I was just chatting with somebody today about the fact that 01:48:13.860 --> 01:48:43.820 Oh, did that actually already come out? Oh, shit, I missed it so far. It was a 2018 thing. He's still working on that. Yeah, you're good. Yeah, I mean, from what I understand, it's based on the book, which is based on, I mean... Hearsay. Yeah, yeah. From what I understand. So what's the verdict there, guys? Oh, it's good. I think it could have been about some obscure technopop thing that I don't give a shit about, and I would have thought it was a great movie. It's just a well-done movie, and it's... 01:48:45.340 --> 01:49:03.840 Yeah, I liked it, but I actually watched an interview with a necro butcher, which I don't know if you guys have ever seen any interviews with him, but the guy hardly makes any sense when he does interviews. But he actually talked about that movie, and it wasn't clear if he thought he was okay with it or if he hated it. He hates it. 01:49:03.980 --> 01:49:04.940 He hates it. I've heard it. 01:49:04.940 --> 01:49:13.520 But in this interview, I think he kind of pulled back a little bit on it. So, yeah, I don't really know, but that guy, 01:49:13.540 --> 01:49:43.320 I don't think I can watch any more interviews with him because he just doesn't. I honestly think he does that on purpose. I'm sorry. I went and waited in line one time to meet him and get a book sign for George and I both. He did a book sign here and I had a chance to talk to him a little bit and he was super completely rational and nice. And I mentioned they had played Death Fest. They played Satanus Mysterio. From start to finish. And he remembered. 01:49:43.540 --> 01:50:13.520 He remembered it really well and it was like that fucking light on the top of that post was the worst thing ever blah blah blah but it was a very nice man and totally coherent and I honestly think he just thinks the press is he's a punk rock guy really when you think about it well he also said what you were mentioning about how maybe that brought him a little bit more attention he said it didn't really do anything for them that the movie just came out and that was it you know and it's gone now was he involved in any way no no I don't think so 01:50:13.540 --> 01:50:15.300 about it till a little bit later, I think. 01:50:15.740 --> 01:50:18.500 But he hates the book for sure that it's based on. 01:50:18.740 --> 01:50:20.320 He definitely said that in the interview. 01:50:20.520 --> 01:50:24.020 And the movie seems pretty well close to the book from what I remember. 01:50:25.560 --> 01:50:26.080 Well, you know what? 01:50:26.320 --> 01:50:28.680 He has a book, since I mentioned the book signing. 01:50:29.580 --> 01:50:31.960 And if you really want to hear his version of events, get that book. 01:50:32.040 --> 01:50:36.820 I mean, he doesn't go into some of the details because there's certain stuff he just won't talk about. 01:50:37.820 --> 01:50:40.860 And not for legal reasons, but just he's like, I'm not going to fucking talk about dead. 01:50:40.960 --> 01:50:41.480 That's fucked up. 01:50:41.550 --> 01:50:42.020 Leave that alone. 01:50:42.090 --> 01:50:42.540 You know what I mean? 01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:43.020 Kind of thing. 01:50:43.580 --> 01:51:12.460 And he was really pissed off about some of the things the other guys. Well, he hated. You're wrong. He was talking about, too, in the interview about how Metallica did a video with clips from the movie, I think. And they thought maybe that was going to bring them a little bit more notoriety and get them more fans and didn't really do much for them either. So I mean, I haven't paid attention to Metallica in many years. So I don't know what video he's talking about. Strangely enough, I think I know. 01:51:12.500 --> 01:51:38.340 Because they did like a video for every song on their new album. And one of them looks like it could have come from the movie. But I think it was actually before the movie. I have no idea how I know this. I actually just blacked out and this is what's coming out of my mouth right now. I think that is it. That's good. That's good. That's so close to sort of like, I know there's this place in the park where you can go if you're gay and you don't want to tell anybody. I mean, I have no idea why I know this. 01:51:42.020 --> 01:52:10.500 Just don't get stabbed. Right. Yeah. That's speaking of. Yeah. All right. Next up is the. I was going to say new, but it's not. It's the first album from Mortiferum, Disgourged from Psychotic Depths. This is the first album from an Olympia, Washington band, Death Metal. And unfortunately, Will is not here. I know he is a big fan of this. And I am a big fan of it as well. 01:52:11.560 --> 01:52:39.360 Does anybody else like this album? Oh, I loved it. It crushes, man. Really slow-churning death metal riffs and subterranean low vocals, which I always love. We just did our albums for October, and while this didn't make it, there was a lot of discussion about it. Yes. In the running. It was definitely in the running. 01:52:40.240 --> 01:53:09.600 And as we have previously mentioned to Joel, the new Nile album, Vile Nilotic Rites, their eighth album, was just released two days ago. And if you have not heard this and you like death metal, you need to fucking get it. Man, I'm so excited for this. I'm actually pretty kind of, I'm staring at the title right now and it's, there's a lot of their band name in that title. It's Vile Nilotic Rites. Yeah. Yep. 01:53:10.220 --> 01:53:37.040 It's great. I mean, we already talked about it, but I think it just really reinvigorates the band. Yeah. I've seen a bunch of reviews and I don't the reviews don't capture what I think the album does for me as a listener, as a longtime fan of Niall. You know, I've liked pretty much all their albums. Of course, I love some of the earlier albums, but this one gave me the feeling, you know, like some of the older stuff. I was skeptical, but I'm sold. 01:53:39.920 --> 01:54:09.400 All right. The new November's Doom album, Nephilim Grove. It's their 11th album. And I maybe I just haven't listened to enough of them lately. But when we got the promo for this and I listened to it, I was like, damn. You know, this was really good. I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm a big fan. I've for going back to the knowing I've been a big fan and they're consistent. I think almost every album. 01:54:09.940 --> 01:54:37.420 There's no real standout album with them, in my opinion. But I just... They're like Overkill. If you're an Overkill fan, you just love everything by them. Yeah. I completely agree with John. I think they're just always good. They always have good catchy harmonies, good riffs, but just never really a standout album. I feel like there's not even really any standout tracks on this album, but it feels good to listen to it. Yes, it does. I mean, probably Pale Hunt Departure is probably their best album. 01:54:39.940 --> 01:54:44.920 2005, I think. But yeah, it's solid. I like it better than the last couple albums. 01:54:46.060 --> 01:54:48.020 Yeah. And they've been around a long time now. 01:54:48.040 --> 01:54:48.180 Yeah. 01:54:48.580 --> 01:55:01.860 Yeah. And I don't know if you guys noticed, but the singer Paul sounds a little different on this album. He has lost so much. He looks great. He's lost so much weight. And I wonder if that's changed his growling a little bit. 01:55:01.860 --> 01:55:04.100 I feel like he had lost it before the last album. 01:55:04.860 --> 01:55:09.000 He has, but he's gotten even in better shape than he was before. 01:55:09.160 --> 01:55:39.060 Yeah, he looks great. So good for him. Yeah. I looked at pictures, John. He said he lost 195 pounds. Wow. I mean, I first I saw them on the novella Reservoir tour and he was huge. And now when I see him like, wow, that's good. That's awesome. We interviewed them at Death Fest. Yeah. They were cool. Larry was a great guy. He was a lot of fun to talk with. So. Next up is the new Rune Magic album. 01:55:39.180 --> 01:56:09.140 Into Desolate Realms. This is their 13th album of Swedish Death Doom. And I gotta say, I like their last album, but I think this one might be a little better. I don't know. Did anybody else listen to this? I haven't listened to it, no. I thought it was fine, George. I thought it was, all the songs are really slow. They almost feel like they're missing something to me in the songs. I'm not sure if it's more variation that I want or different 01:56:10.380 --> 01:56:37.220 But I didn't feel like full or satisfied after listening to the whole album. So it was like the Chinese food of metal. I mean, it's fine, you know. I was listening to it this morning. It's so long ago. And I don't know. I mean, yeah, it might not necessarily be a lister. 01:56:38.080 --> 01:57:08.020 But it was good. It was cool. So. All right. Next up is the new Vastam album, Orofficial Purge. Yes. This is the fourth album from this Frisco. And I say that just to piss John off. Death metal band. That's just such bullshit. It really is. San Francisco. Yeah. This was the. Jay can testify how that just grew. 01:57:08.080 --> 01:57:37.720 at people who are from there. You literally don't say it here. Even San Fran is not acceptable. I almost went with that, but I was like, nah, Frisco's worse. That's in Texas. What everybody does say here is the city. Everybody says the city. We built this city on rock and roll. I used to live like a half a block away from their famous place when they were Jefferson Airplane on Standing Street. But damn. 01:57:38.060 --> 01:58:07.920 Yeah, I mean, I would say for Joel, since he seems like he's looking for new music, Joel, you need to plunge your throst and blot into this sexy orifice. This orificial purge. Because, I mean, seriously, it's like, I mean, it is contending for the best death metal album of the year, for sure. Yeah, both Will and I listened. Both Will and I had this as our album of the month for October. And it's a fine choice, by the way. 01:58:10.260 --> 01:58:12.120 And I know there were a couple of 01:58:12.400 --> 01:58:13.320 almosts on that album. 01:58:14.760 --> 01:58:15.980 So yeah, definitely 01:58:16.300 --> 01:58:17.740 check that out. Now, holy shit. 01:58:20.320 --> 01:58:22.100 November just started, but 01:58:23.400 --> 01:58:24.220 it's done. 01:58:25.120 --> 01:58:26.580 Yeah, it is. 01:58:26.780 --> 01:58:27.740 I think it is. 01:58:28.080 --> 01:58:29.960 It's done. The new Wilderun album. 01:58:30.200 --> 01:58:31.880 I was wondering if John would think about 01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:33.780 this next one and if I already know now. 01:58:34.090 --> 01:58:35.640 Yeah, Veil of Imagination, 01:58:35.820 --> 01:58:37.480 the third album from Wilderun. 01:58:37.940 --> 01:59:07.900 Holy shit. Joel, do you know these guys? Absolutely. Yeah. Have you heard? I'm guessing you haven't heard this. It only came out two days ago. I haven't heard the new one, but now I've got both of their albums. The first. Oh, it is so good. So good. It's I don't even know how to describe it. It's absolutely massive. What they they did on this album. And it doesn't have the Americana feel that much on it. It's still folky in parts, but they they've kind of reduced it down. 01:59:08.020 --> 01:59:37.920 and they got heavier there's deathier parts I mean I think the smartest thing they did on this album and they're independent is they got Dan Suano to mix the album which right there that made it great and then Jens Borgen is on the mastering I mean you couldn't get any better than that and it just sounds huge yeah it is good and the arrangements of the songs are perfect like they the way that they move from different types of music 01:59:37.940 --> 02:00:06.960 Nothing ever lingers too long and it flows perfectly into it. It really feels to me and I don't like I like progressive metal but not as much as John but this to me feels like a like an evolutionary step in progressive metal. I can't say that. I don't say that often but it's really good. I listen to it with my wife and even she who hates metal was like what is this? You know because she appreciated you know the music or what was happening in it you know. 02:00:12.560 --> 02:00:34.860 The main Angry Metal Guy, the originator, is a big fan of their album, Sleep at the Edge of the Earth, which I love that album. But he's been going on for a while now about how labels are going to feel stupid and they're going to shame on them for not signing these guys, which they're going to get signed after this album, I think. I've never seen this rating on Angry Metal Guy. He gave the album Iconic. Wow. 02:00:37.700 --> 02:00:43.460 does that ever so i was and i know he's a big he's a fan boy but that is some of the i think it's 02:00:43.580 --> 02:01:07.660 some of the folk stuff actually and this is probably what turned me uh not that i wasn't already a huge fan but i mean uh the the promo did not sound as good as this i don't know um or not the promo we didn't get the promo but the the the tracks that they released i was like eh i don't know i think that's a common practice that some people 02:01:07.680 --> 02:01:37.640 are releasing advanced tracks that are not mastered and stuff like that. And I think one of the reasons, but also might be a strategic choice. You know what I mean? Like, it was not that good. And then when I heard it, I was like, whoa. But anyway, some of the like, quiet, folky stuff reminded me of Leonard Cohen. Yeah. And I was like, whoa, because I'm a huge Leonard Cohen fan. So I don't know if you, Jay or George remember, this is the first interview I ever did with you guys. We interviewed 02:01:39.320 --> 02:02:05.500 I made a comment that when I listened to Sleep at the Edge of the Earth that I just wanted to pick up my sword and just charge. And on this album, I can't tell you how many times it sounds like it could be the soundtrack for Game of Thrones or Lord of the Rings, and then it just rips right into a death metal portion. It just flows. Seamlessly, too. Yeah. And when you hear symphonic metal, I'm like, oh, boy. I don't know. It doesn't sound anything like that at all. 02:02:05.780 --> 02:02:35.240 Well, I'll chime in just to say I haven't listened to it yet, and you guys have thoroughly convinced me I need to listen to it tonight. And I do know and like them previously. I like them too. I just haven't gotten around to it yet, but I'm literally putting it on my machine right now. This is a step up. This is like nothing else. Because I've liked Wilderun, but this album is by far the best thing they've ever done. And I would say I've liked them too. Hey, Jay, put it this way. I would think that even if you don't like them, 02:02:35.800 --> 02:03:04.400 There's no way you couldn't walk away and say, wow, they really brought it this time. Awesome. Yeah. Wow. So this is fantastic because I'm already a huge fan of theirs from Sleepy the Edge of the Earth. It just completely blows that out of the water. It does. Yeah. Because the stuff, progressive metal and some symphonic stuff and some folky stuff, all those things put together, you're like, well, what's this going to be? Just looking at when you hear those words together. 02:03:04.440 --> 02:03:33.140 But the musical choices and the changes, the changeovers that you guys talked about a little bit before. And yeah, just the such tastefulness and all these wild twists and turns that they make. It's one of those things where when you say, for example, listen to the new Opeth or some new Opeth album, you're like, okay, well, I don't quite know what's going to happen here, but I trust Michael to be my guide here. 02:03:33.240 --> 02:04:02.120 And that's kind of what Wilderun do as well. I'll say this too. Evan's vocals are both his clean and harsh. I can't imagine or think of him sounding any better than he has. And he's been on a number of different projects too. But yeah. And I know there's a lot of hype for one album. I get it. You know, for especially a band that a lot of people haven't heard of. But I think that because it's so different from the last album, it kind of makes Sleep at the Edge of the Earth even better now. 02:04:02.220 --> 02:04:32.100 because it's so unique compared to this album. And the first album's completely unique because the first album's more sing-songy. You feel like you're kind of sitting on the campfire and you're drinking me and singing all these folkies. Fire metal. Parkour. It's actually kind of funny. With Sleep of the Edge of the Earth, I bought it from the band and when the CD came, Evan was like, hey, Joel, I didn't really realize this at the time, but the art kind of looks a little bit like Thrasenblatt. 02:04:32.220 --> 02:05:02.180 So like sorry about that but just because it's a mountain I was like yeah that's like it looks like a million different covers to be fair and that's not it's fair game and uh I love I love the art on sleep at the edge of the earth and I do want to give a plug to you Joel too because I know you're usually a little behind the times on releases and the new opeth is the best thing they've done in a while for my money I love it yeah I agree with that it's called the Encounter Beninum yeah okay it's a 02:05:02.220 --> 02:05:31.620 Did you look it up? I don't even know. Okay, you can find it somewhere. In any case, the record, it's my favorite post-Death Vocal Opeth album by a fucking thousand miles. I love it. I would agree with that. Yeah. And Joel, if you're really interested, you can listen in both Swedish and English. Yeah, of that. Yeah. That's pretty ballsy. Let's do it this way. Looks like that show Vikings. 02:05:32.200 --> 02:06:01.940 No, Norseman. Oh, yeah. The funny one, yeah. It's on Netflix or something. What's that? It's on Netflix or Amazon. So they film it in English and in Norwegian. All the scenes. Every scene. Wow. It's really, really funny. Can you imagine that? Do it again this time in Norwegian. Come on. It's a comedy, though? Yes. Really? It's a fire song on Vikings. So it's great. 02:06:03.360 --> 02:06:31.300 The comedy is really well done. They do this great thing of mixing barbaric Viking culture with modern art culture and that sort of thing. So there's this guy who's captured from Rome who's an actor who gets brought to the Viking village. I'm sold. I know you got me already. It's fantastic. There's a scene where I was like, yep, I'm sold. 02:06:32.240 --> 02:07:02.120 these two Vikings talking to each other. They're about to go on a, maybe on a raid or something like that. One of them is wearing the helmet with like the horns on it. And the other one's like, what are you doing, man? Like, you know, that's not even functional. He's like, well, it's style. Do you know anything about fashion? Fashion is about expressing the self. And like, it goes on this big tirade about fashion and style. I did not know that. I, I've heard of this, but I did not know this was the way it was. It's funny. I like it too. Very good. I would also, well, recommend to you guys too, then. 02:07:02.200 --> 02:07:32.140 If you've seen the movie, it's amazing. But there's a series that's actually pretty good for that movie, What We Do in the Shadows. I want to see that. The vampire one. It holds up. The show is fine. I was a little worried to try it out, but it's actually produced by Jermaine and Watiti, the other dude. Taika Watiti. He writes the scripts and stuff. It's fucking funny, dude. Yeah, I love everything he does. I want to see that. He's great. He's got a new movie. 02:07:32.200 --> 02:08:02.020 coming out that's like about Nazis. Yeah, it's called Jojo Monkey, I think it's called or something like that. He plays Hitler and he is an imaginary friend of this kid who's being sort of, you know, who's a Hitler youth kid, but he's not. He's just a kid, you know what I mean? And his imaginary friend is Hitler, played by Taika Waititi. And just watch the trailer alone is hilarious, dude. It looks fucking great. It is pretty good, yeah. Jay, I looked up that Opeth album, Inkada Venenum, 02:08:02.220 --> 02:08:32.140 It means poison in the tail. Poison in your tail. Gives us all something to think about. Is that a cheese curds reference, John? We literally cannot go like two bullets without just deviating off the highway. Why don't we move on? Poutine also means Canadian potpourri. I'll take that gun. 02:08:34.140 --> 02:08:53.200 All right, let's move on to our... Joel, you really don't want to know. You know what? Everything just cut out for about 15 to 20 seconds. Perfect. I've lost... Two words, Canadian potpourri. Okay. Yep. All right, let's move on to our top five. 02:09:16.600 --> 02:09:18.000 Which, 02:09:18.460 --> 02:09:47.040 It's a couple of days late, but we're going to do our top five Halloween-esque songs. Metal-ish, anyway, songs. Joel, did you come up with a list? I did come up with a list. Can you give us your number five? Are we going in like five to one? Yes, so just give us your five. Your number five. Okay, so my number five. Okay, let me see here. 02:09:49.780 --> 02:10:17.120 So Halloween, okay, let's just talk about the topic here for a second. So Halloween-esque, so is it, what kind of Halloween are we talking about? Like, what it, is it kind of the commercial, like candy and like, you know, cartoon bats and shit or like? I think that's up to you, Joel. Like how you interpret it. Yeah, good, because I interpreted it in a way which, well, doesn't require, but lends itself to, you know, a good bit of philosophical discussion. 02:10:18.440 --> 02:10:47.060 So I'll just I'll put the easiest one out there first which is I think it's one that least kind of the one that fits the most with with kind of just Halloween in general it would have to be I don't know what song because they all meld together because they're all fantastic but the crowns album possess 13. Oh nice. Right on. That's pretty Halloweeny to me but it's also just good for year round anyway but I love that album. Awesome. Yeah that's great. I haven't heard that in a while. 02:10:47.460 --> 02:11:17.300 I love the crowns last album. Yeah. Uh, Cobra speed. Yeah. Also great title. Oh, okay. Another one to put on the list. Cobra speed. Venom was on our list for last year. It was definitely on my list. Mine too. I think me, you, will, bunch of us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's super good. And the album cover is awesome. Have some cool art. All right. Well, Markisan what's your number five? My number five is the song title is by sword by pick. 02:11:17.460 --> 02:11:47.140 by Axe, by By. By Frightmare. I don't even know that. Yeah, it's because this band, they only did like two albums. It's from 2006, this album called Bringing Back the Bloodshed, and it's a thrashy death grind band, and they combined metal with B-movie slasher themes. So it's really good. The albums are really good. I love the cover art to them, but this song in particular just makes me think of Halloween, mostly because of the title. 02:11:47.440 --> 02:12:17.420 because it's hard to understand the lyrics in it but yeah by sword by pick by axe bye bye all right Matt all right my list is gonna be fairly literal so starting with number five I would say both the movie Halloween and John Carpenter are fucking metal and so the Halloween theme song is my number five yes easily to me one of the most iconic theme songs 02:12:17.440 --> 02:12:47.420 I love his stuff I buy his stuff on band camp but yeah I saw John John beats me because he has it on vinyl the only one that might be slightly more iconic would be two Bueller bells other than that like yeah you know what I'm talking about no I mean the possess the exorcist yeah absolutely all right uh John so my number five I think Jay will definitely appreciate this uh I 02:12:47.420 --> 02:13:16.920 I picked all different reasons for my Halloween songs. So some will be serious, some will be fun, some will be obvious. This is my fun one. It comes to us via Wayne's World, via the album Hey Stupid. It's from Alice Cooper, Feed My Frankenstein. I mean, it just, and it leads into that iconic scene of them going backstage and everything, you know, and learning how to really say Milwaukee. Milwaukee. Milwaukee. So interesting fact I learned recently. 02:13:17.420 --> 02:13:18.380 was almost 02:13:21.340 --> 02:13:21.880 Freddie Mercury 02:13:22.670 --> 02:13:23.120 instead of Alice Cooper. 02:13:23.120 --> 02:13:23.820 But he died. 02:13:25.240 --> 02:13:25.720 No, no, no. 02:13:25.920 --> 02:13:26.520 That's who they wanted. 02:13:28.300 --> 02:13:29.680 And Alice Cooper's manager 02:13:30.160 --> 02:13:30.840 stuck his nose in it 02:13:30.840 --> 02:13:31.220 and said, 02:13:31.260 --> 02:13:32.540 you do it with Alice Cooper. 02:13:32.840 --> 02:13:33.080 Come on. 02:13:33.340 --> 02:13:33.520 You know, 02:13:33.620 --> 02:13:34.040 and that's how they, 02:13:34.260 --> 02:13:35.020 because, you know, 02:13:35.120 --> 02:13:36.440 and it was related to the whole 02:13:37.740 --> 02:13:38.480 Bohemian Rhapsody thing 02:13:38.530 --> 02:13:38.880 at the beginning. 02:13:39.320 --> 02:13:39.580 That's right. 02:13:39.720 --> 02:13:41.380 Freddie saw a cut of the movie 02:13:41.740 --> 02:13:42.060 before he died. 02:13:42.760 --> 02:13:43.060 That's right. 02:13:45.480 --> 02:14:11.860 I kind of liked it with Alice Cooper. It makes more sense, dude. It makes more sense. So my number five, it's obvious to choose a Misfits song, but which one is the point? And the most obvious choice is Halloween. I did not go that way. One of the things I love about the Misfits is that kind of creature feature, Svengoolie, weird Frankenstein in a hot rod thing. You know what I mean? 02:14:13.100 --> 02:14:42.700 version of Halloween, if you ask me. And going along well with that, the sort of midnight movie feel, the song Vampyra. Nice. And I love that stuff about Halloween. I like truly scary Halloween Halloween, but I also like that kind of hyped up weird 1950s Monster Man shit. I love that stuff, Jay. Yeah, every bit of it, no matter what it is. And I still watch Creature Feature here on the... Is it really? Oh, I grew up with Creature Features. Yeah, me too. Here's this. 02:14:43.100 --> 02:15:12.160 It's the local channel that does it, so I don't know that they have it by you, George, but I watch it. Jay, is it still on Channel 2, KTVU? Yep. Oh, man. I love that. That's awesome, dude. So, anywho. When I saw Creature Future as a kid in Michigan, possibly a different one, but there was this dude in a very, like, 70s outfit, but leading into what they always played, 02:15:15.180 --> 02:15:42.720 It was always like, you know, the creepy part of whole lot of love. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, cool. Although. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And it terrified me. And years later, I was got into Led Zeppelin. I was like, oh, shit. It's great. You know, I'm sure Sven Gulli is on all by all of you guys. That guy is. Yeah, he's still on. I still see him. He's probably on by you guys, too. He's still in Chicago. 02:15:44.239 --> 02:15:47.040 I've seen some weird fucking movies on that show dude 02:15:48.300 --> 02:15:48.820 alright 02:15:50.960 --> 02:15:52.060 it's me yeah 02:15:53.139 --> 02:15:54.820 alright my number five 02:15:57.200 --> 02:15:58.840 probably the most 02:16:00.119 --> 02:16:01.060 expected one 02:16:01.060 --> 02:16:02.720 on this list Halloween 02:16:03.600 --> 02:16:04.200 by Halloween 02:16:05.140 --> 02:16:07.060 I figured somebody would come up with that 02:16:09.260 --> 02:16:09.940 yes 02:16:11.100 --> 02:16:13.080 alright back to Joel for number four 02:16:13.840 --> 02:16:42.760 All right, number four. So my number four, I think, and it probably has to do with the music video for this song, because I think, man, it's been a while since I watched it, but it could also have to do with the kind of main iconography of this band in the first couple of albums. So Children of Bodoms, Every Time I Die, that's got the Reaper in there, and it's, I don't know, for whatever reason, it's very, very, whatever, 02:16:42.860 --> 02:17:12.660 whatever Halloween kind of associate that with that isn't candy and cartoon bats. Yeah. That's kind of getting along those kind of starting down that path. Nice. Sweet. Good one. All right. My number four is Dead Skin Mask by Slayer from Seasons in the Abyss, 1990. Revisits the true story of serial murderer Ed Gein who kept keepsakes. 02:17:12.880 --> 02:17:42.660 of severed body parts. Listen to their hollowed screams. I love that part. Just look at pictures of that guy too, dude. Oh God, he's a weird looking dude. He's just got that thousand yard stare, man. You know what I mean? I don't think he knew until the day he died that he'd done anything wrong. He made lamps out of people. Stuff like that. Oh yeah, no, he strung up like an old lady, like a piece of cattle. 02:17:42.880 --> 02:18:11.260 I'm like Cutter. You know, like she's a piece of beef. It was just horrible. Made in mass. Was he a Wisconsin guy too? He was indeed. Yeah, he's from Wisconsin. A lot of movies are based on him. You know, Another Phase, Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Actually, believe it or not, I think Psycho is based on him, believe it or not. I think that's right, Jay. Matt. Matt. 02:18:12.960 --> 02:18:39.360 My number four, Halloween by Halloween. Nice. All right. Johnny. So I didn't realize we were doing the couples thing here with number four. So my number four is also based on a serial killer who's been mentioned, Ed Gein, Slayer's dead skin mask. All right. Let's hold hands, John. Virtually, of course. There you go. 02:18:43.939 --> 02:19:12.540 I actually have a Slayer song for my number four, but it's not that song. It is from Hella Waits. You've got to talk about vampires in Halloween, or Halloween. And for those of you who don't already know I'm going with this, there's a song on there called At Dawn They Sleep, which is a fucking great song. And it just builds up, builds up, builds up. It's a slower Slayer song, so it's not true that they didn't get slow until South of Heaven. But yeah, At Dawn They Sleep. 02:19:12.639 --> 02:19:42.599 I love that album and that's a great song too yeah I also could have gone with Crips of Eternity from that album but this one's more specifically about vampires so right on so uh my number four I also considered the Misfits but I decided to go a little different with my dancing uh and I did went with Sam Haines November's Fire 02:19:42.620 --> 02:20:10.100 Asa wayne as you might pronounce it. Is that really the pronunciation? I've heard it called that. I just say Samhan. That was a fine choice, though. Well, except for the fact that November is after Halloween. Yes, but shut up. But it's called November coming fire, which could be a reference to the future. Yes. Tomorrow is November. Today is Halloween. Right. Okay. I can go with that. All right. 02:20:13.680 --> 02:20:42.260 All right, so this is where I mentioned earlier that you can kind of get a little bit more philosophical about things. So this is where it starts for me here. So I think, you know, thinking about Halloween, the first thing that pops into my head is like, like I said, like, you know, candy and, you know, plastic pumpkin buckets and like all sorts of stuff like that. And I don't know if you noticed in any throst about lyrics or not, but I like to think about things and kind of get to the deeper, 02:20:42.640 --> 02:21:12.600 a meaning behind a lot of stuff not you no you know what you're right you caught me in my lie there sure i'm kidding no i that's very much you no i was also joking um sorry i fucked that up wow softball it was it really was sorry by the way i didn't say anything at all but i want you both to know i was also joking and so so so halloween i guess 02:21:12.640 --> 02:21:42.360 For me, when I think about it in a way that is like, hey, this is pretty fucking cool, it ends up being, has to do with the fact that New Brunswick, Halloween ends up being kind of right in the middle of fall. It's like right when it starts to get a little bit colder and all the leaves are kind of just fire orange. And so it's like, Halloween is also at night and it also has candles and it's like, that's kind of all the stuff that's kind of painted around that. 02:21:42.620 --> 02:22:07.940 Halloween for me. So I think my next three have to do with, you know, we talked earlier about kind of meshing landscapes and being in nature with music and that sort of thing. And so that whatever you want to call that, here's my, here's what Halloween, here's what meshes with Halloween for me. And so the first of the last three, so I guess the third one, would be Opeth's The Moor. 02:22:11.620 --> 02:22:12.100 Yeah. 02:22:12.380 --> 02:22:13.580 You just made John's night. 02:22:15.080 --> 02:22:15.220 Yeah. 02:22:15.360 --> 02:22:17.700 Why does George get to have his night made more than anybody else? 02:22:20.399 --> 02:22:21.660 It's a great song. 02:22:21.800 --> 02:22:22.900 It's one of my favorite by them. 02:22:23.900 --> 02:22:26.960 The opening notes just get me. 02:22:28.240 --> 02:22:29.500 You know what gets me in that song? 02:22:29.660 --> 02:22:30.820 Is that opening growl. 02:22:31.620 --> 02:22:31.980 Yes. 02:22:32.160 --> 02:22:32.840 Rips that out. 02:22:33.060 --> 02:22:33.360 Yeah. 02:22:34.620 --> 02:22:34.820 Yeah. 02:22:35.300 --> 02:22:35.680 It's funny. 02:22:35.800 --> 02:22:38.260 That whole walk up there, and I'm not making this up, I thought he's going to say 02:22:38.400 --> 02:22:41.040 Led Zeppelin, Ramble On, because it's like such an autumnal song. 02:22:41.060 --> 02:22:43.700 and you were basically describing autumn and i was like oh yeah here it comes 02:22:44.740 --> 02:22:53.420 not that that wasn't a flying it's not falling all around yeah yeah all right mark us on uh my number three 02:22:54.140 --> 02:23:03.480 is witch blood cult by acid witch nice from witch tannic hallucinations from 2008 pretty much any song by acid 02:23:03.480 --> 02:23:11.040 which could be on this list i think they actually call their music halloween metal yeah uh but witch blood 02:23:11.060 --> 02:23:40.980 is the first song from them that I think of. It has this really sick, sinister riff and these creepy keyboards that kind of remind me of the old iconic horror film scores like Matt was talking about. So yeah, Witchblood Cult by Acid Witch. Nice. Creepy. Right on. Creepy. Matt, how do you follow that? I follow that with a repeater. This is probably the first song that popped into my head when you mentioned this list, and that would be Feed My Frankenstein. 02:23:41.320 --> 02:24:10.080 by Alice Cooper. Nice. You know, I wanted to go with some Alice Cooper. I didn't, but I thought about it. It's fair. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I had trouble narrowing it down. I was like, I mean, I considered he's back, you know, from, you know, the Friday the 13th soundtrack off a constrictor that nobody listened to but me. No, I listened to it. Yeah. All right, John. 02:24:11.820 --> 02:24:40.880 So my number three is based on a, I think, I'm assuming it's based on a 1968 film. It's called Hopkins, Witch Finder General off the album Connerville Bazaar by Cathedral. Such a good song. I love it. If you listen to the long version, they have this great kind of like trailer sound to the original movie where it's talking about, oh, there's a pestilence on the landscape. 02:24:41.040 --> 02:25:10.720 It's just this total 60s type intro. And then it's, you know, Vincent Price coming in. My name is Hopkins. It's my general, like the album. And it kicks in. It's about 30 seconds longer. It's great. I mean, anything with Vincent Price, you know, I was in the car the other day going, can I put Michael Jackson's thriller on this list? Because anything with fucking Vincent Price is fucking metal. First of all, I love that which find your general movie to is fucking correct. I assume everybody's seen it, at least most everybody. That's so good. 02:25:11.060 --> 02:25:39.880 Actually, I'll just leave it at that. But there are other Witchfinder movies, too. And that was like a whole subgenre, kind of underground. Not underground, but B-70s horror film from Britain. That's probably the best of them, the most visible, but that's pretty great. And it's in price at his most kind of like unrelenting darkest, you know what I mean? Because it's visceral. There's other films. Once he started creeping into the 70s, he was a little bit sort of like a Disney character. But that's not what this movie is, you know? 02:25:42.760 --> 02:26:10.980 I'm going to leave it there and then he goes on. That's all I got to say about that. Straight Mark J. I'm not sure why I was just reminded of this, but something that you said reminded me of how an album opens and then words opening an album and then it clicked that when George was here, I popped the CD into the car and it was some sort of like grind death metal stuff. And I was like, oh, this is pretty good. George was like, what is this? And I was like, 02:26:11.520 --> 02:26:12.360 I have no idea. 02:26:13.460 --> 02:26:16.440 And it was a blank CD that I think I had. 02:26:16.740 --> 02:26:19.880 It was in the Woods of E-Pray Van on tour, and it just kind of ended up in my collection. 02:26:20.080 --> 02:26:20.160 Yeah. 02:26:20.819 --> 02:26:23.420 And I have no idea what the band or album is. 02:26:23.500 --> 02:26:25.060 And we have not been able to figure it out. 02:26:26.640 --> 02:26:30.180 And I was curious, did you share that with everyone there, George? 02:26:30.360 --> 02:26:33.180 For everybody, it's kind of like more minds make it easier. 02:26:33.240 --> 02:26:39.380 You know, I don't know if I did, but yeah, I spent so much time trying to figure that out. 02:26:40.380 --> 02:27:10.080 And it is impossible to determine what this album is. I literally cannot tell. Do you have a notion of timeline? I mean, not that we're going to help you with it, but like, is it older, newer? I'd say 2010-ish. Okay. Interesting. Give or take for years. Just a side note, but the new Wilderun album actually opens with words. Hey. Spoken words. What words? Spoken. Poetic. Nice. 02:27:12.959 --> 02:27:15.640 It also ends with words. 02:27:17.150 --> 02:27:20.780 Isn't that taken from T.S. Eliot, I think? That's what I'm reading online. 02:27:22.180 --> 02:27:29.280 I don't know. That makes sense. It's definitely a poem. It feels like a poem. I don't know it was from an actual source, though. 02:27:29.280 --> 02:27:33.420 I think so. Both parts, the beginning and ending, are taken from two different ones, I think. 02:27:33.800 --> 02:27:37.260 I like that. That makes sense. It probably makes sense in the context of the album, but I'm assuming it wasn't. 02:27:37.360 --> 02:28:07.320 That makes sense, because TS Willett did write down words. It could be any number of people, I'll be honest with you. Well, actually, I've been waiting for those specific TS Willett words to be used at some point. And here they are, finally. And I like the album. You know, I feel like I sent that to Will, Joel. Will being the other death medley kind of guy. And, you know, I pride myself on being able 02:28:07.360 --> 02:28:37.260 to identify things and know all things metal. And this is my one failing. George, you may have to just suck it up and just get on Reddit and just put it out there. No, I mean, I literally put this on websites that identify music. And everybody was like, meh. Hey, send that out. Let's crack it. We can do it. I agree. Yes. I could not figure out who this was. Just like in the Zodiac. Send out that code. We'll all try. All right. 02:28:37.340 --> 02:29:07.140 Detective Matt is on the case. I got this. Detective Bitchy. Get that guy a coffee. He's pissed. It's Bitchy P.I. And then kicking the Magnum P.I. music. You know, when I was a kid, I taped the Magnum P.I. music off the TV on a tape recorder so that I could listen to it. That was my introduction to music was taping theme songs off the TV shows as a kid. 02:29:07.200 --> 02:29:36.160 All did that off of the radio, everything. Always had a tape recorder around. If I had a copy of it, I would just drive around cranked with that. Yeah. You have to look over at the imaginary camera once in a while and go, right? Wasn't that his thing? I realized I probably just looked like Crouch of Marks when I did that, but you know what I'm saying. Translates well. So I have no idea whose turn it is. 02:29:37.200 --> 02:30:07.180 I think John just went did I just do the last one Hopkins yeah yeah all right okay all right also with an Alice Cooper trick for my number three um but first I want to kind of get a plug in there that there's a great thing on welcome to my nightmare which is Alice or excuse me Vincent Price during Black Widow which is like a great Vincent Price moment if you haven't heard that you should listen to it when he refers to man as a stumbling boy mad king or something like that and talks about the spiders are going to wipe us out 02:30:07.200 --> 02:30:37.140 In any case, I went much older than you guys, as I'm prone to do on Ellis Cooper. Very spooky track that it must have had a lot of impact in 1971 when it came out called I Love the Dead. Yeah. Nice. Great song. And still makes it to his live show today. Cool. That's a good one. Yeah. My number three, Bark at the Moon, Ozzy. Nice. That's probably like my favorite Ozzy. 02:30:38.680 --> 02:31:07.160 We talked about George, right? That was your first album for him, right? Yes, it was. It was, yeah. It also might be one of his most Halloween-y videos, too, for sure. Yeah, you know, he all dressed up like a werewolf and everything. Yeah. Such a killer song. And they're making, Super 7's making a toy out of that album. No. He's like a werewolf-looking creature, yeah. I think they previewed it. I don't think it's out yet, though, because they just did the 02:31:07.200 --> 02:31:34.940 Rattlehead that Will showed. Yeah, I saw that. But they're doing a Bark at the Moon one, yeah. There's another more detailed Bark at the Moon that came out a while back. I don't remember who did it, but it was actually pretty cool looking. Joel, that brings us back to you, sir. Yes. Number two. Now that we're chatting about all these songs, I'm starting to be reminded of a whole bunch of honorable mentions had I kind of gone with regular Halloween. I have a couple. 02:31:37.200 --> 02:32:07.160 And I'm just going to spit them out now. Sure. But there's so much Merciful Fate and King Diamond and Ice Earth Horror Show. Yeah. Hopefully I'm not stealing anybody's stuff here. Or all stealing from each other. My Misfits track would be Astro Zombies, I think. Oh, yeah. That's a good choice. Love that song. So to go back to my deep philosophical whatever I'm kind of going with here. The one that really is neat 02:32:07.220 --> 02:32:37.100 Neat, because it encompasses so much for me, is this song. Because I saw this band in October, and their show at night, and their show had candles. It must have been 300 candles in the entire venue, and incense going on and all this stuff. And it was just this incredible sensory experience. But Wolves in the Throne Room, so probably Queen of Borrowed Light off the first one would probably be. 02:32:37.799 --> 02:32:38.520 my track. 02:32:38.880 --> 02:32:42.900 Because that just is just so that atmosphere for me. 02:32:44.620 --> 02:32:45.600 Yeah, they're awesome live. 02:32:45.780 --> 02:32:46.780 They always do that. 02:32:47.040 --> 02:32:50.020 They have those weird tapestries and smoke and stuff. 02:32:50.160 --> 02:32:51.120 Yeah, it's always getting really. 02:32:51.400 --> 02:32:52.640 I didn't know they were still touring. 02:32:53.410 --> 02:32:53.900 I mean, like. 02:32:54.000 --> 02:32:54.320 Oh, yeah. 02:32:54.860 --> 02:32:57.060 They were sort of like decibels little baby for a while there. 02:32:57.090 --> 02:32:59.200 And every decibel tour, they were getting stuck on. 02:32:59.310 --> 02:33:01.560 I felt like I saw them three times in like two years. 02:33:02.360 --> 02:33:05.560 When I say that, I mean like currently still touring. 02:33:06.439 --> 02:33:07.000 Oh, yeah. 02:33:08.100 --> 02:33:36.820 I thought they were touring like last year so I didn't know they were still. Oh yeah. I don't think they're on the road right now. I don't think they are right now. Awesome. Mark is on. All right. My number two I had to put this band on the list and that is Type O Negative and the song I chose they have a lot of songs that reference Halloween but I think this is the best one. It's the most direct reference to Halloween and that's All Hallows E. 02:33:40.479 --> 02:34:06.520 My band did a copy of their live for Halloween shows. We would do Halloween in Heaven from the Dead Again album. It's just a great song, too. It's a great album. Awesome. Matt. My number two, I miss this band so much, and I think they are a great encapsulation of Halloween. Cheers to you, Marcus. My number two is All Hallows Eve by Ted Bo Negative. 02:34:07.140 --> 02:34:36.220 All right. Sweet. Skol, my friend. It's weird enough that we choose the same stuff, but it's even weirder to me that we all think that's exactly number three. You know what I mean? How does that happen? It never makes any sense to me. Or number two. For that matter. John. All right. My number two is my last two picks are obvious picks. At least I think they are. But I can't think of any song that starts out as eerie as this one. 02:34:37.120 --> 02:35:07.080 And it's just something as simple as just rain falling at the beginning. And I made it number two. But there's a reason why I made it number two. There could be no other song, you know, to be on this list. That's Black Sabbath by Black Sabbath. It just, it doesn't matter when I hear that song, I stop. I'm like, fuck, that intro is just so awesome. Yeah, I was going to go with that. And then I was like, ah, bark at the moon. I don't want to go too much. Yeah. Yeah. So, but it was hard. 02:35:07.120 --> 02:35:36.780 It was really hard. It's on my honorable mention, too, because it's super slow and doomy. I think it's like the creepiest song I've ever done. Oh, yeah. It's also the fucking beginning of metal. Well, yeah, the official beginning. Yes, definitely. Yeah, I agree. All right, Jay. This is not a coincidence because of what I just said, but the only thing you left out are the cover, which is Spooky John and the church bell. But I chose Black Sabbath from a number two. Nice. Well, I think, Jay, 02:35:37.120 --> 02:36:07.080 I figured we were going to be coupling, so I wanted to share this with you. I appreciate that for leaving out those hot points. Yeah, but it was one of the first ones that came to my mind, and to me, if you were going to do the generic online poll, that would be number one on everybody's list. That would be number one overall, but I mean, I didn't choose it as number one on purpose, too, but yeah, that screams Halloween. Sit there, look at that record cover, and turn on a red light over in the corner and listen to that album. You got yourself a Halloween right there. 02:36:07.619 --> 02:36:28.520 What gives that song more credence for me is just to the part when I get to him opening his first lyric. It just brings it even further down. It's just so like they're in a cavern almost when he's singing it. And you're just like, fuck, I'm getting the chills here. I know we're sick of probably hearing it at this point because I've heard it a million times, but I still love it every time I hear it. 02:36:28.740 --> 02:36:28.980 Yeah. 02:36:30.680 --> 02:36:59.240 My number two from the movie soundtrack, Trick or Treat, by Fastway. Yes, a Fastway reference. Awesome. Yeah, man. That movie. I saw that in the theater when it came out in 1980-whatever. Sure. I fucking love that movie. You know, fucking Skippy from Family Ties, I think it was. 02:36:59.340 --> 02:37:26.780 was the lead in that movie. Ozzy was in there. Gene Simmons was in there. Is Blackie Lawless in that? Maybe not. I think there might be a poster of him or something. It's such a metal movie. I still listen to the soundtrack to this album. It is so good. Nice. Back to Joel for number one. 02:37:29.360 --> 02:37:56.020 Number one. How philosophical will it be, Joel? Very. There you go. It's going to be very philosophical. No, actually. Well, it fits with the same theme, but it's actually, I'm super excited about this one because it's a Canadian song. And it's by Canadian folk, just Treasure. Joel? Thrasymla? Yeah. 02:37:59.340 --> 02:38:27.540 It's great because it's not quite metal, but it is actually metal in everything except instrumentation. But as we've kind of maybe seen with, I guess, Live Off the Forest Floor, that you don't have to have heavy guitars to be metal. Or Great Project Forest. There's a lot of arguing about that, by the way. So, yeah. So this song is one of my just favorite Canadian songs. And it's by Lorena McKennett. 02:38:27.560 --> 02:38:56.780 And it's a song called All Souls Night. Wow. Wow. Love it. That chord progression, I'm so jealous of. I'm just, you know, those songs that you wish that you were the one to have written, and that chord progression is just like, ah, love it. Wow. Good pull. Yeah. I like her. Yeah, I like her too. All right. I guess it's my turn. My number one. 02:38:57.560 --> 02:39:27.280 is the first one I thought of and it remained at number one and that is Zombie Ritual by Death from Scream Bloody Gore. Sick, disgusting lyrics about zombie whores set to killer death metal. So drink, gentlemen, drink from the goblet of gore because this song is Halloween as fuck. An album is Halloween as fuck. Yes. All right. 02:39:27.720 --> 02:39:28.300 Matt. 02:39:29.620 --> 02:39:34.880 My number one, I will admit, it has a lot to do with future events. 02:39:35.860 --> 02:39:36.520 But still fitting. 02:39:36.780 --> 02:39:38.340 And that would be Halloween by King Diamond. 02:39:38.740 --> 02:39:39.300 Yes. 02:39:40.819 --> 02:39:42.660 I'm in King Diamond mode. 02:39:43.760 --> 02:39:44.860 Oh, you have to be. 02:39:45.020 --> 02:39:45.380 That's right. 02:39:45.540 --> 02:39:46.220 Preparations. 02:39:46.260 --> 02:39:47.300 You're drinking the beer. 02:39:47.480 --> 02:39:49.940 I mean, you almost are King Diamond at this point. 02:39:50.800 --> 02:39:52.320 That's what I told myself this morning. 02:39:53.120 --> 02:39:55.560 What was with that video you sent? 02:39:56.240 --> 02:39:56.780 Was it Jay? 02:39:59.159 --> 02:40:00.200 He's like talking about 02:40:00.740 --> 02:40:00.880 I'm 02:40:01.880 --> 02:40:02.640 He's King Diamond 02:40:03.150 --> 02:40:05.000 And he's like I'm going to see King Diamond 02:40:05.939 --> 02:40:06.580 I love that 02:40:06.760 --> 02:40:08.020 I love so many things about 02:40:08.020 --> 02:40:08.520 I love that 02:40:08.700 --> 02:40:10.360 And also he's like check this out 02:40:10.420 --> 02:40:10.960 Look at this freak 02:40:11.070 --> 02:40:12.140 And he grabs that freak 02:40:12.270 --> 02:40:13.320 And then he pulls him up to the camera 02:40:13.440 --> 02:40:14.180 And then at the end he goes 02:40:14.200 --> 02:40:15.640 And I hope that you'll come to every show 02:40:16.500 --> 02:40:17.880 He has this little laugh at the end 02:40:18.399 --> 02:40:20.260 I love everything about that little video 02:40:20.460 --> 02:40:21.300 It's just beautiful 02:40:22.540 --> 02:40:24.480 That and he's kind of twitching through the whole thing 02:40:24.660 --> 02:40:25.819 Like Renfield or something 02:40:25.840 --> 02:40:55.740 Yeah, King gets it. Yeah, he does. Good choice. John, yeah. So my number one, I immediately thought of this because it reminded me of the video I saw in the early 80s that had these great classic takes from old 50s horror films. It's the only song I know where the fans all sing the spoken word at the beginning or say it. I've heard it. 02:40:55.820 --> 02:41:25.160 We've all heard this song a gazillion times. We're sick of it. And then as soon as you see it live, you just get pumped. And that's the Number of the Beast by Iron Maiden. Yes, a good choice. I mean, just the way it starts with the intro. It was so hard to narrow things down. I didn't even consider Iron Maiden, but there's probably a 50 great Iron Maiden choice. Fan of the opera. Yeah, I didn't even think about it. Prowler. I think Number of the Beast is the best one, though, John. That's perfect. I had considered it. 02:41:25.220 --> 02:41:27.740 It's not a matter of mentions, but it was considered. 02:41:28.260 --> 02:41:34.620 I just love that. I remember watching that video when it first came out, and it's the werewolf at the beginning. I'm like, what is this? 02:41:35.279 --> 02:41:48.700 You know, this is fucking... And the song hadn't started yet. It was still the spoken word, and then it rips into the opening riff, and then you see Bruce, and it's just the spotlight on him only. And it's from that... I don't know if it's from the London show that they took that from. 02:41:48.900 --> 02:41:50.680 It sure looks like that stage, dude. 02:41:51.380 --> 02:42:20.760 That's the live album that Jay and I just go on and on about, which I still think is our best live album. Me too. Beast over Hammersmith? Yeah, I absolutely love it. I mean, literally that, just to brag about that again for a second, we're talking about that again. That came out, that was recorded a week before Number of the Beast came out, and it's Bruce at the height of his powers singing all of those great songs. Most of Number of the Beast is on there, and then he does a bunch of Paul-era stuff. It's fucking great. I mean, it's a great live album. I absolutely love it. 02:42:20.940 --> 02:42:25.160 Almost perfect, you know, there's no heinous mistakes like Joel made on his live album. 02:42:30.220 --> 02:42:30.660 Heinous. 02:42:32.280 --> 02:42:36.700 I mean, where else can you get a live Maiden show where Run to the Hills is the third song in the show? 02:42:41.300 --> 02:42:49.860 My number one is I had to have some King Diamond and Merciful Faith thing, and it was hard for me not to put several on this list. 02:42:49.880 --> 02:43:19.860 But I thought, no, I'm going to spread out the love a little bit. Halloween would be the obvious choice. I did not choose that. It was on my list of some version of my list. But I ended up backing off because what I think is probably one of the scarier metal songs of all time. And I could have chosen almost anything from the second two albums. The first one was that, you know, unnamed corpse without a soul thing. Anyway, long story short, what I went with was Melissa. It's a song about his girlfriend, a witch being having been killed for that very reason. And he's basically sitting there in his little satanic 02:43:21.280 --> 02:43:48.640 Questioning the nature of his life and everything is just brilliant. But it's also orally or orally spooky. It's a perfect soundtrack for Halloween. Yeah, totally. And King is the king. True that. My number one is Black. Number one. I swear to God I thought you were coming. Typo negative. Black number one. 02:43:49.880 --> 02:44:19.640 You know, that song is Halloween to me. It is. It is so... It answers the question, what if Dracula had a band? You know what I mean? When I first heard that song and saw the video for that back in, what, like, 94, maybe? I was like, what? That video holds up, too. That's a pretty cool video. It is so good. And it has been said, I miss Pete. 02:44:19.900 --> 02:44:49.640 And that's my number one. Yep. That's a good one. I considered that one too. I picked out Hall's Eve, but yes, really good one. I don't know. People have mentioned honorable mentions. Do we want to, does anybody have any one to mention? I would just say a bunch of you guys mentioned most of mine. The only one that I really wanted to get on my list that I didn't was, that was hard for me to leave off was Halloween by King Diamond. I had, 02:44:50.560 --> 02:45:19.640 I didn't pick this one because it's almost like a soundtrack. I could have. I really struggle with this one, but it's Dance Macabre by Celtic Frost. Oh, fuck yeah, dude. That is the scariest fucking track. It's almost like a, just sounds. It's like if you bought a Halloween Sounds album. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's groans and weird triangle noises, you know, and then moaning souls. That's one that you could play at the haunted house. 02:45:19.740 --> 02:45:48.660 you were putting on in the basement of your church when you were a kid. You know what I mean? It'd be like spooky Halloween sounds. Yeah. And then the other one I had, I thought of it because they just put out a remastered edition of the album, Cruelty and the Beast from Cradle of Filth. And that's the song is 13 Autumns and a Widow. Yes. Like goth nasty. Like there's a growl shriek combo vocals. There's this haunting spoken word section in there. 02:45:50.220 --> 02:46:18.900 But yeah, so we got remastered. I'm like, oh yeah, this would be pretty good for Halloween. That's a great album. Yes. And that song in particular is very Halloween-esque, I think. Yeah. Of course. Yeah, and the other ones you guys already mentioned, Black Sabbath. Oh, that stuff, yeah. Halloween by Kingdun. Any others? Yeah, I want to play off of what Matt said. All my honorable mentions are every single John Carpenter soundtrack. Awesome. Absolutely. 02:46:20.380 --> 02:46:47.440 I also want to add the sounds of Jay's ass. That's what you got to be there for in person to really appreciate the horror though. I want to say Markisan that's not just Halloween but that's like a nuclear winter. The horror. The horror. Donald is 10 years to late because of that day. Hey Jay is that Marlon Brando or Jay Peterman when you say that? It was Marlon Brando but I get the reference. 02:46:49.760 --> 02:47:19.720 I just watched that again the redux one the oh I went to the theater to see that when they re-released it oh it was amazing this I don't know why they left out some of that stuff they left out that's so strange best best moment just real quick is uh Robert Duvall sitting there giving his speech and it says one day this war is gonna end I love that line dude because he means it like and he just stopped and everyone's just staring at him he just gets up and walks away well he sort of nods his head knowingly like yeah yeah yeah 02:47:19.740 --> 02:47:49.580 That's gonna happen. That's gonna happen. That's gonna happen. That's gonna happen. Yeah. And then we're all gonna have to go home and stuff, you know? Yeah. I have two honorable mentions. The first one is Blood Feast, the Misfits cover by Ashen Horde, our friend Trevor. Oh, nice. And it's Halloween Night, which is Jack O'Lantern by Acid Witch. Anything Acid Witch. Yeah. Qualifies. Yeah, I think they just released that. 02:47:49.740 --> 02:48:19.700 the other day and it's pretty cool. I'm a little shocked that nobody wants their mash. It's the most. I mean, that is the classic. It's not philosophical enough. You know, the only other band I was sorry I couldn't represent because they do such a good job and he loves the Witchfinder movies and stuff is Electric Wizard. He's so into that weird hammer horror stuff and darker. Yeah. So there's a few things I could have chosen of that. 02:48:21.381 --> 02:48:25.580 All right. Why don't we move on to what we're listening to? 02:48:49.760 --> 02:49:19.720 All right, Joel, what are you listening to? Is it new stuff? It's whatever you want to listen to. There you go, Markeson. Yeah, there you go. Give it to us. So when I listen to music, a lot of times, so here's a little bit of, so you wanted philosophical. Well, I don't know if you wanted it, but you mentioned it. You're getting it. You're getting it. So the past often has different kind of customs, different 02:49:19.760 --> 02:49:49.720 people, kind of different tastes, different kind of cultures, different styles, that sort of thing. So in a lot of ways, the past is kind of like a different place. It's like another country that you have never visited. And so I listen to a bunch of music that seems to, it takes you somewhere else, but then it's the past. So there's this album that I came across on Spotify, and it's some live performances from the early 60s of a 02:49:49.740 --> 02:50:19.500 of a French singer and piano player. And yeah, his name's Gilbert Beko. And the first like five or six songs of these live performances has this like incredible energy to it. It's like melodically delicious. And it's just this wild and crazy French piano playing and singing. Can you spell his name for those of us that would like to check it out? G-I-L-B-E-R-T. And then Beko is B-E-C-A-U-D. Thank you. 02:50:19.560 --> 02:50:48.780 So it's live at the Olympia and it's the first five or six songs. So that to me is like a new album because it's like 2019 because it's so different from anything I've ever heard. And it's like, yeah. So anyway, I never heard of it before and it didn't exist to me until it kind of was shown to me by Spotify. Yeah. Apart from that, I just finally got around to listening to Insomnium's Winter's Gate. 02:50:49.540 --> 02:51:13.880 Just now? I love that album. Just now. You know they have a new album. Really? Yeah, it just came out. I can't get this type of excitement when I'm just only listening to new albums, right? Enjoying one album and finding out there's another one. Joel, the beauty of this is you have something to listen to three years from now. 02:51:19.560 --> 02:51:45.680 Yeah, and there's, what else? I just found out about this fantastic folk band called La Botine Sourriante. So it's a French folk Celtic mix. And so that translates to The Smiling Small Boot. And so what's calling that is B-O-T-T-I-N-E space S-O-U-R-I-A-M-T-E. And they've got some fantastic stuff. The instrumentation is just gorgeous. 02:51:49.740 --> 02:52:19.480 which is kind of a kind of Celtic prog jazz supergroup. Yeah. I've heard of that. Yeah. Somehow. It's a it's a it's a phrase from something. I'll look it up. The gloaming. Yeah. Well, yeah. I've heard of that. But it's it's. Well, what are we looking up? Just the concept of the gloaming. I think. Oh, yeah. It's like it's a word. It's like a kind of like an archaic word. Do you know what it means? It means I'm going to fucking Google it. But it has to do with like the evening or like the dawn. 02:52:19.540 --> 02:52:19.880 or something. 02:52:20.420 --> 02:52:20.540 Okay. 02:52:20.660 --> 02:52:21.100 That's Twilight. 02:52:21.360 --> 02:52:21.780 It's a dust. 02:52:21.960 --> 02:52:22.060 Yeah. 02:52:22.520 --> 02:52:22.660 Gotcha. 02:52:22.960 --> 02:52:23.080 Okay. 02:52:25.079 --> 02:52:25.560 Cool. 02:52:26.040 --> 02:52:27.040 That sounds interesting. 02:52:27.360 --> 02:52:27.960 All those sound good. 02:52:29.060 --> 02:52:29.540 Cool. 02:52:32.020 --> 02:52:32.220 Okay. 02:52:32.360 --> 02:52:32.600 My turn. 02:52:33.260 --> 02:52:34.020 Let's see here. 02:52:35.420 --> 02:52:36.340 Dawn Raid. 02:52:37.199 --> 02:52:40.460 Behold Sedition Plain Song on Prosthetic Records. 02:52:40.760 --> 02:52:44.120 It's very poetic and interesting black metal. 02:52:44.360 --> 02:52:45.240 Big drum sound. 02:52:45.500 --> 02:52:47.020 Lots of great folk instrumentation. 02:52:47.180 --> 02:52:48.340 There's violin on that. 02:52:48.939 --> 02:52:55.560 I remember liking their first album, but this one's a lot better to me. So I'd like to spend a little bit more time with that one. 02:52:56.240 --> 02:52:58.780 Can you repeat what you used with the name and the title, please? 02:52:59.320 --> 02:53:05.640 Yeah, it's called Don Raid. So it's D-A-W-N-R-A-Y apostrophe D. 02:53:06.340 --> 02:53:07.500 A-Y apostrophe D. 02:53:07.600 --> 02:53:07.720 Okay. 02:53:08.200 --> 02:53:11.700 Yeah, it's called Behold Sedition Plain Song, and that's their second album. 02:53:11.940 --> 02:53:13.540 So yeah, I think actually you would dig that one. 02:53:14.500 --> 02:53:16.840 That's totally going to be on Joel's list next year. 02:53:19.160 --> 02:53:46.880 Yeah, that's really good. It was in contention for my album month for October, but I don't think I listened to it enough. Yeah, another one, very different, Harrowed, a chaotic non-entity on Feast of Tentacles records. This is what I wrote on Facebook for Metal Fridays. Do you enjoy riffsplosive metal that blows your face skin back and makes you punch the sky with 02:53:46.920 --> 02:54:16.880 And bloody knuckled glee? Yes. Yes, you fucking do. Ball up your mitts and give this a spin. Really good. I love this band. And this is why Markisan gets to write the text for the episodes. Yeah, I found this band at a shop in Chicago, the first album, and the shop had written a description of it, and it sounded great, and it picked it up, and I loved it. And this one is just as good as the first 02:54:16.920 --> 02:54:46.220 one, if not better, very short songs, you know, like two minutes. I think their longest song might be like three minutes and 30 seconds or something. But the riffs are great on it. Also listening to Galneryus into the Purgatory on Warner Music Japan. It's a Japanese power metal band. Oh, I did listen to that. I'm not a power metal guy, but the musicianship of this band is crazy high. 02:54:46.900 --> 02:55:15.940 And Into the Purgatory is power metal, but it's very experimental. And it's heavier than stuff I've heard before. And the guitarist, CU, I think his name is, he's just dazzling on the album. So it kind of made me revisit some power metal stuff, you know, what you could accomplish with power metal. And these guys have been around a long time. I found that on the angry metal guy. If I could jump in just real quick. I just saw them at Prog Power. Really? Yes. 02:55:16.120 --> 02:55:46.000 They were on day two, I think. And I mistakenly referred to their keyboard as a woman. It was actually a guy. I couldn't tell the difference because he had some flamboyant clothes on that made it hard to figure out. I can attest. I don't know if you guys heard that when I did the report from Prog Power. Their musicianship, while I was a fan overall because I'm not a big power metal fan, they are second. 02:55:46.120 --> 02:56:16.100 and none in their musicianship there was a point where the keyboards went out and he had to walk off stage and the band kept playing and there was all kinds of problems he was gone for about a minute or so he walked back up and as soon as his keyboard went on he hit the note perfectly during his solo that he was supposed to be playing that he wasn't playing wow hit it perfectly and just ripped it off and yeah they they i think for most people they took the whole fest huh so yeah i was surprised you said galnares i'm like wait a minute hold i just saw them 02:56:16.120 --> 02:56:45.380 That was their first ever U.S. appearance. Damn. Yeah. Yeah, and I had listened to the last album, I think, so they were kind of on my radar because I liked that last one, and I kind of went for the back catalog. But yeah, I really love this one. It's a lot better than the last album, actually. Those guys can play. They can really play, yeah. Cranial is another band I've been listening to called Alternate Endings. It's on Moment of Collapse Records. This is a very mammoth-sounding, aggressive, 02:56:46.120 --> 02:57:15.980 Sludge post-metal album. It occasionally dips its toes into this sci-fi synth stuff. I really like this Crane. I never heard of him until a couple months ago, where I previewed a song, but the full album's out now. Semeckin. I'm going to have trouble pronouncing this, but it's In Oatly Teotica in Mikitsli on M-Theory Audio. This is a very riff-heavy. 02:57:16.220 --> 02:57:46.100 death metal destructive album with Aztec inspired wind wood instruments and percussion and I happened upon this album at Reckless Records in Chicago right before I left and I love it it's really good you know it's you know in that kind of tradition of Nile you know where they take Egyptian instrumentation this one takes Aztec really good from start to finish I just found this band today death metal band called 02:57:46.120 --> 02:58:15.440 splattered carna vortex on amputated vein records um this album came out of nowhere for me but it's heavy unrelenting death metal with drums that kind of rain down on you like gatling gun fire i want to hear that bile choked barks for vocals uh really great breakdowns and the solos are are they're more thrash than death metal which is really interesting i think in this i love this so far 02:58:16.040 --> 02:58:44.480 It doesn't come out until November 8th, but the full album's up on Bandcamp right now. That's so bad. I think that more thrash than death metal thing, though, is there's this kind of new wave of old-school death metal bands coming in right now. I don't mean old-school like... I mean old-school like... What's the one I'm trying to think of? Like Possessed. Even though I know that's a big argument in the first place about whether they're death metal or not. Well, one thing that comes to mind, even though they've been around forever, is Exhumed. Exhumed is that thrashy death thing. 02:58:44.540 --> 02:58:45.320 Yeah, right. 02:58:46.170 --> 02:58:46.280 Yeah. 02:58:46.670 --> 02:58:47.740 I think you guys will all like it. 02:58:47.880 --> 02:58:50.460 Will will definitely like it, but I think everybody's going to like this. 02:58:50.620 --> 02:58:51.480 The Splattered really good. 02:58:51.540 --> 02:58:52.740 I think it's their first album. 02:58:53.420 --> 02:58:56.300 And the album cover art is freaking awesome. 02:58:57.100 --> 02:58:57.660 What's it called? 02:58:57.780 --> 02:58:58.200 What's it called? 02:58:59.600 --> 02:59:02.620 It's called a Splattered Carnivore-Tex. 02:59:03.060 --> 02:59:03.380 Okay. 02:59:05.159 --> 02:59:07.500 Yeah, Amputated Vein Records, who I have not heard of. 02:59:07.650 --> 02:59:09.640 So I'll have to see what else they have as well. 02:59:10.840 --> 02:59:13.700 And then the last one I have on my list was my album of the month, 02:59:13.740 --> 02:59:42.000 And that's the Great Old Ones, Cosmicism, on Season of Mist Records. I've been a big fan of the Great Old Ones for a while, but I feel like they've elevated their music on this one. It's very immersive, epic, Lovecraftian black metal. And I love it. There's just a lot of really good changes and riffs in it. And yeah, it's bigger, I think, than some of their other albums. Really like that one. Also a great album cover on that. 02:59:43.740 --> 03:00:11.760 Cool. Sweet. And then I have to go. All right, dude. But awesome talking to you. Great to meet you, Joel, and talk to you. It's great. Hope to talk to you again on the cast. Come out to the Decimal Fest. Yes, you should. Yeah, likewise. Yeah. All right. Thanks, Marcus. All right, man. And he's out. All right, Matt. 03:00:13.740 --> 03:00:43.500 All right. 1349. Infernal Pathway. I've been spending that a lot. I cannot put the new Vastum down or Special Purge. I just keep going back to it and back to it even when I'm trying to do something else. I've been spending the promo from Obsequiae, the Poems of Sorrowed Kings. To me, it's more of the same. I don't know. It's just a unique metal sound that just always sits right with me. 03:00:44.620 --> 03:01:12.880 The new Car Bomb had me spinning a lot of the Car Bomb catalog, which I really dig. Also liking the new release from Titan Blood, The Baneful Choir. And then Nile's new one, Vile Nylotic Writes. And then just been doing a ton of year-end cramming, second-guessing myself and listening to everything 40 times in my head. But I'm envious of John and would like to find a good soccer channel and just watch that. 03:01:13.720 --> 03:01:14.440 Chill out. 03:01:14.760 --> 03:01:17.880 But all you got to do is just give me a holler on Saturday morning. 03:01:18.020 --> 03:01:18.460 I'll hook you up. 03:01:20.840 --> 03:01:20.940 John, 03:01:21.760 --> 03:01:22.680 you'll be getting a call. 03:01:23.260 --> 03:01:23.340 Yeah. 03:01:23.900 --> 03:01:28.140 What do you think I'm going to be doing before the episode? 03:01:28.340 --> 03:01:29.500 I'll be just sitting there watching a game. 03:01:29.940 --> 03:01:30.600 Just watching soccer, 03:01:30.940 --> 03:01:31.080 you know, 03:01:31.150 --> 03:01:34.580 just having a beer while I'm like playing out the rest of my hair going. 03:01:34.780 --> 03:01:35.740 I don't know. 03:01:36.600 --> 03:01:39.120 Exactly where I'm looking for my shirt sleeves and my wallet. 03:01:39.360 --> 03:01:40.240 Who knows what else? 03:01:40.400 --> 03:01:40.500 Well, 03:01:40.580 --> 03:01:42.660 you guys are pissed that you're number four or five a pick. 03:01:42.800 --> 03:02:12.620 I'm pissed at the foul that was called that gave a free kick. All right, well, John. All right, so my list. Been Spinning the New Alsest, Spiritual Instinct, a lot. I like this one more than a lot of their recent albums because it's more post-medally than it is actually. Cue in the Will after Black Gaze. But I like this one a lot from them. Spinning the New Disprhythmia. I don't know if you guys ever listened to them. 03:02:12.800 --> 03:02:41.500 They're kind of a technical, progressive, instrumental band out of Brooklyn via Philadelphia. They're the Gorguts guitarist and bassist. The album's called Terminal Threshold. I like this new one a lot. It's a dude from Kralos as well, right? Yeah. And drummer, I think. Yes. And guitarist. It's cool. So I like it. Black and Death Doom band from France, which I'd never heard of, but I saw them on Rate Your Music. They were highly rated, so I checked it out. It's a band called Epitaph. 03:02:41.940 --> 03:03:11.080 And I guess the first album's just called One. They're like 20-minute Death Doom songs with blackened moments in it. And I was like, I don't know if I'm going to dig this. And it goes by fast, even though there's only five songs on the album. It's like 60 minutes. It's crazy. So I've been digging that. The new song from Fenn called Nebula of the Dark Light, which is coming out like December, what, 6th or something? I'm like, great. I like Fenn. Thanks to George. I got into them with their last album. 03:03:11.940 --> 03:03:15.000 And I'm kind of pissed that it's coming out so late because I kind of wanted to hear it. 03:03:15.420 --> 03:03:17.160 It may or may not be a lister? 03:03:18.200 --> 03:03:20.760 Yeah, I don't know. I just won't have a chance to know. 03:03:21.759 --> 03:03:26.100 Marcus mentioned the great old ones, Kodimakism. I like it a lot. 03:03:26.540 --> 03:03:33.580 I really wish it had a little better production, meaning to me it sounds like Emperor a little bit. 03:03:33.800 --> 03:03:37.520 I like Emperor, but the symphonic sounds kind of drowned it out a little bit. 03:03:37.680 --> 03:03:40.900 Then you hear Emperor live, you're like, this band is like the greatest band ever. 03:03:41.300 --> 03:04:10.760 They just sound so good live. So I kind of feel like that about these guys. Just my opinion. But we mentioned November's Doom. I've been spinning that a lot. I've been spinning the Voyager, Colors in the Sand. I don't know what it is about progressive metal and synth pop from Australia, but I like it. They're a fun band to see live. And it's the only band I've ever seen that during an instrumental piece played Beverly Hills Cop on the guitar. And it was totally fun. So I'm going to have it sooner or later, though. 03:04:17.380 --> 03:04:36.580 I like them. I like them. I think they're a fun band. I don't usually like to say fun bands, but they actually make you want to watch them if you like that kind of stuff. And I hate synth pop, but for whatever reasons, I like them doing it with their progressive metal. And then I said this on Facebook. I don't know if anyone caught it, but I mentioned this might be the one album to rule all. 03:04:39.340 --> 03:05:05.280 The New World to Run Veil of Imagination is just fucking brilliant as far as I'm concerned. So can I I think this is an opportune time to mention it and I'm sorry to interrupt Jay. But I have a new sound effect. Let's hear it. So do you need one of us to do something first like make a mistake? No, no. Well, you know, we have the we have. 03:05:09.340 --> 03:05:10.720 Well, this is the new that. 03:05:15.479 --> 03:05:18.500 Metal Hits Podcast. 03:05:23.480 --> 03:05:24.060 That's good. 03:05:24.440 --> 03:05:26.440 It's a little darker, a little more Vincent Pricey. 03:05:27.079 --> 03:05:30.060 There's like one joke voice in there going, what is that? 03:05:30.160 --> 03:05:37.460 That, my friends, is Keith from Arctic Sleep and Unearthed Elf. 03:05:38.340 --> 03:06:05.980 And he sent you just that bit? He put that together for me last weekend. We were talking about stuff that I can't talk about. And he was just like, oh, I'm going to send you this. And he sent me that. And it was obviously fucking brilliant. That's great. So that's our new chanty choir sound. Nice. Very cool. And Markisan missed it. 03:06:09.260 --> 03:06:10.220 All right, Jay. 03:06:12.040 --> 03:06:14.940 I always have kind of a generic list because I'm not necessarily chasing down. 03:06:15.580 --> 03:06:19.040 I let you guys these days chase it down, and then I'll listen to it if you tell me I have to. 03:06:20.520 --> 03:06:21.800 Meaning, like, Jay, you have to. 03:06:21.900 --> 03:06:22.240 You know what I mean? 03:06:22.380 --> 03:06:22.840 That kind of thing. 03:06:22.880 --> 03:06:23.760 That's not entirely true. 03:06:23.840 --> 03:06:25.840 But in any case, my list always ends up being generic. 03:06:26.020 --> 03:06:28.160 But in truth, these are the albums I listen to the most. 03:06:30.399 --> 03:06:31.800 Opeth, Exhumed, has come back around. 03:06:31.940 --> 03:06:34.100 I mean, that one, that's a little more grindy than the last one. 03:06:34.180 --> 03:06:35.220 Does anybody agree on that? 03:06:35.360 --> 03:06:36.940 Like, they've got a little more grind this week. 03:06:37.500 --> 03:07:05.500 Yes, time to lessen. But that was a record. I picked it up when we first got it. I listened to it once, too, and it's like, oh, it's cool. I'll listen to it together. And it's kind of a grower. So if you didn't get knocked over by it right away, you might try it out again. The Van den Plaas, always a grower. They're one of those bands like Opeth where you got to get a couple times through it. That record's really good. Thank you, Jay. I forgot that. I like that new one, too, a lot. It reminds me, John, of something akin to one they had called Christo, which I really liked a lot. 03:07:05.860 --> 03:07:10.120 And then they kind of did these longer form things that went over the course of 03:07:10.200 --> 03:07:14.460 which actually were brilliant, but it's great. It's a little bit more of their old school stuff. 03:07:14.810 --> 03:07:14.920 Yeah. 03:07:16.079 --> 03:07:18.160 And as is known, I love that band. 03:07:18.800 --> 03:07:22.500 I too have been listening to the Vastum because that was one of the ones everybody wouldn't shut the hell up about. 03:07:22.590 --> 03:07:23.260 It was really good. 03:07:24.680 --> 03:07:27.340 That just came up a lot, but it's a damn fine album. 03:07:27.360 --> 03:07:27.880 It's so good. 03:07:29.979 --> 03:07:35.760 Markson's not here to agree with me on this fact, but I had floated that the new Nile was pretty special after I listened to it. 03:07:35.820 --> 03:08:03.740 And his quote was, Niall is back. And that's exactly the right thing to say about this record. Yes. It's Niall 2.0, really. Somewhat simplified in some ways. It's like Niall 12.0. Fair enough. But they've kind of dumbed their method down just a little bit. It's not as almost proggy as Niall can be, as weird as that sounds. And there's also some new vocal approaches on here. There's even a little clean stuff, not clean singing. It's hard to explain when you hear it, Joel. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. 03:08:05.820 --> 03:08:31.300 That's so on my list. It's great. And I love that band. 1349 was not a surprise, but they came much farther along than I thought they would this time. So that's a great record, but listen to that. And as is known, Matt, myself, and George are all going to do the King Diamond meet and greet this year and this month in different towns. So we can all be like, hey, can you give this to my friend when you see him? 03:08:35.820 --> 03:09:05.720 I'm a King Diamond fan, huge Merciful Fate fan. So I've been going through the whole catalog, but lately I'm stuck on Fatal Portrait. And Fatal Portrait is this record that has a great place in my heart because it was his first one after Merciful Fate broke up. But if you were alive then, or my age at that time, you didn't know Merciful Fate had broken up. There was no major metal publications that were talking about underground bands at that level. And I remember I found this on the record shelf and I was like, hey, cool, the guy from Merciful Fate did a solo record. So I took it home, 03:09:05.800 --> 03:09:35.780 I listened to it and thought it was great and then only found out later no it was the end and that record just holds a weird place for me that's a great record too it's pretty spooky throughout so yeah yeah it was that he didn't got on his feet enough yet to do Abigail but it was very fine and it still had some holdovers from merciful fate in it so that pretty much covers my list for right now those are the ones that are most often getting spun right on brings us to George the cleanup batter and this is a very George list it's long 03:09:36.399 --> 03:10:05.760 But Will's not here to complain about it. So let's go ahead and do it. All right. First up, Arbe Mort, Insufferable Humanity. This is the second album from a Louisiana death metal band. I found it on Bandcamp. I liked it. I bought it. Next up, Bird Flesh, Extreme Graveyard Tornado. I mean, just the title of that album, Extreme Graveyard Tornado. This is the fifth album from a Swedish grind. 03:10:05.800 --> 03:10:35.780 which I have of course very much into grind lately which leads us to the next one blood duster their entire catalog Australian death grind band blood duster I listened to these guys you know years ago but I wasn't I didn't quite get it and I went back and revisited them and fuck yeah blood duster speaking of classic grind brutal truth the need to control album I finally went 03:10:35.860 --> 03:10:42.500 and got that album and i get it and it's awesome and that will come up again later 03:10:44.100 --> 03:10:50.600 next up cancerous womb born of a cancerous womb the only album from a uk death grind band 03:10:51.320 --> 03:10:57.120 i found that on band camp recently is a couple years old the band broke up but this is a good album 03:10:57.260 --> 03:11:04.480 check it out next up coffin rot a monument to the dead their first album they're a portland oregon 03:11:04.480 --> 03:11:34.440 death metal band. Very much in the vein of the two moldy bands that I've been digging lately. Corrupt Moral Altar, Mechanical Tides, and also their album You Know Ya. This is a UK grind band featuring John Cook, who is also the band called Venomous Concept, which will again come up. 03:11:34.480 --> 03:12:03.500 later. Exhumed Horror, the new album. Very good. Dig it. Also, the new Gate Creeper album, Deserted. In contention for album of the month for October, but didn't quite make it. But a very good album. Genghis Tron, Board Up the House, their second and final album. There's some chuckles there. Why is there some chuckles? It sounds like I've never heard about that band name before. 03:12:03.640 --> 03:12:32.860 And it's fantastic. Genghis Tron. Yes, this is a New York band. It's like Electrogrind. It's like Grindcore. Which makes it perfect. They have the perfect name, dude. Electrogrind. Yes. And it's even funnier. So I remember when this came out, I didn't get it at the time. I listened to it recently and I was like, oh yeah, this is good stuff. Man, yeah, that's up there with Tony Danza. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Next up, 03:12:33.760 --> 03:13:03.620 Zen and their album Hito Shizuku. If you didn't guess that, they're a Japanese band and it's their first album of Gore Grind. And wow, you know, the album cover art, I sent this to the guys. It's like, what's that? Like anime kind of stuff, but it's like completely fucked up and inappropriate. And it's good music too. Next up, Grid Link. I've been listening to pretty much their entire 03:13:03.660 --> 03:13:33.120 This is another grindcore band with members from Discordance, Axis, and No One Knows What the Dead Think, which is a band that has a new album out that you should listen to. Next up, IATT, or also known as I Am the Trireme. They've released their second album, Nomenclature. This is a Philly melodic black death band. It's different. It's not what you would expect. 03:13:33.180 --> 03:13:35.840 So you should check that out. Uh, 03:13:37.659 --> 03:13:38.960 frenolith desolate landscape. 03:13:39.820 --> 03:13:41.660 Will just talked about how he was like, 03:13:41.760 --> 03:13:43.440 how the hell do I not know about this band? 03:13:44.240 --> 03:13:45.180 And this is their first album. 03:13:45.240 --> 03:13:46.520 They're a Danish death metal band. 03:13:46.640 --> 03:13:47.620 And it is pretty intense. 03:13:47.800 --> 03:13:48.620 You should check it out. 03:13:50.860 --> 03:13:51.140 Bye John. 03:13:51.360 --> 03:13:51.640 Excuse me. 03:13:54.060 --> 03:13:54.240 Uh, 03:13:54.440 --> 03:13:58.060 next up Samoth across the Rhine is only death. 03:13:58.260 --> 03:13:59.140 This is a Netherlands, 03:14:00.360 --> 03:14:00.460 uh, 03:14:00.620 --> 03:14:01.280 black metal bands. 03:14:01.300 --> 03:14:02.140 Their sixth album. 03:14:02.480 --> 03:14:32.420 It's pretty screechy. Check it out. Squash Bowels. Grind Koholism. This is a Polish gore grind band. It's their sixth album. And I like it a lot. I bought that on Bandcamp. We're not too far off from the end. Next up is Takafumi Matsubara. This is one of the guys from Gridlink. And this is his brand new solo album called Strange, Beautiful, and Fabulous. 03:14:33.919 --> 03:14:59.720 It features a variety of guest vocalists from the grindcore genre, and it is a very good album. Next up, so I've been listening to like Brutal Truth and Napalm Death and stuff like that, and so I've been branching out with what some of the guys in these bands have done, like Corrupt Moral Alter. 03:14:59.800 --> 03:15:28.880 And this is another one of those bands. It's Total Fucking Destruction, which features two of the guys from Brutal Truth, Richard and Dan. And this is their most recent album, Hashtag USA for TFD. I picked that up on Bandcamp. It's pretty good. Two more. This is a band that I thought was German, but is actually Chilean. Un aus Sprechleichen Kulten. 03:15:31.239 --> 03:15:59.660 Sounds very German. But it's not. Apparently this is a Lovecraft via fucking Conan guy. Who wrote Conan? Fuck, I don't know. I'm sure I did know it once. I'm sure we can find out. Anyway. I was going to say Frank Frazetta. No, the dude that wrote Conan. The original Conan. 03:15:59.800 --> 03:16:29.760 I don't I'll look it I've had too much better sorry anyway I'll get it anyway it's uh it's based on it's based on Lovecraft or at least Conan guys version of Lovecraft first off let me just tell you if you google Conan writer you're just gonna get a list of writers from Conan's show so but you are talking about Robert E Howard thank you apparently Robert E Howard wrote something that included a made-up story by Lovecraft and it was 03:16:29.760 --> 03:16:59.720 and this is their fifth album called, fuck me, Tufelmusker. I can't pronounce it. It's not German, then it's probably Lovecraft speak. He's got a lot of... Yeah, I didn't even find out until today that they were Chilean. I really thought they were German. There's a lot of Germans down in Argentina. 03:16:59.760 --> 03:17:29.260 in Chile, I think so. No, I'm not joking. No, it's true. You're not joking. I mean, that's... But this is a really cool album, and you should check it out. Well, in Laffington, because they're all clearly there because they ran away after the war kind of thing. Yeah, but there's like actually towns that have developed that have a very German feel in the mountain regions. You know, it's kind of wild. Yeah, they have some strange beliefs, too, I think it's fair to say. And finally, Venomous Concept mentioned earlier. 03:17:29.300 --> 03:17:52.540 I've been listening to all three of their albums, but in particular, their middle album called Poisoned Apple. This is Shane and Danny from Napalm Death and Kevin and Dan from Brutal Truth, as well as John from Corrupt Moral Altar. Brilliant stuff. 03:17:53.860 --> 03:18:22.620 So I want to pause here really quick just because you had so much crying stuff and I meant to say this back when we were talking about Decibel and it's that I like Pig Destroyer and the art is probably my favorite so I'm so glad they're saying it but I'm saying this all to you or that they're doing it for the show I'm saying this all to you only because my own personal copy of that was given to me by J.R. Hayes the singer from Pig Destroyer just because I had said hey you guys sell it at the merch booth and he's like yeah yeah come on over to camera he said that's for you brother 03:18:22.620 --> 03:18:52.440 Nice. So I've got, maybe I can get that copy. Maybe I'll bring that copy and get it signed the day they play it all. Yeah. Those are some good guys. Super fucking nice guys. Yeah. I mean, obviously we know Blake and Scott. Talk to Scott. Yeah. But I mean, you guys like running to Blake all over the place. Yeah. I like to call Blake the East Coast ambassador of metal. Because everybody fucking knows Blake. Yeah. So anyway, there we are. We've reached the end. After. 03:18:52.620 --> 03:19:22.600 But damn. Only three and a half hours. Not bad. I know you're going to say it, but I'm going to at least slip my two points in and just say that it's always, and I mean this sincerely, it's always a pleasure to have you on, Joel. You're just such an obviously good dude and a fine and talented musician. So our door, our home is always open to you. Joel is the goodest of dudes. Thank you for saying that. The goodest of dudes. And it always makes for a good episode. We always have some good laughs when you come to. So that's cool. We all take bites out of each other. And so it's nice when you don't mind it when we take a bite out of it. 03:19:22.640 --> 03:19:52.560 to you too. And that's just how we do it. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Go dude. Cheers. Well, really appreciate you guys having me on. It's always a blast. I mean, cool. Yeah. That's what new record. I will get you down here again. Exactly. Exactly. Well, I expect you'll be here. What? You know, I guess it's really kind of up to you when you're here next because you have to release something. Here's a little question. Huh? Here's a little question for you guys then. All right. So, um, so since, since, 03:19:52.620 --> 03:20:21.520 We've got so many band members across the continent. And we've got lots of schedules that are very difficult to coordinate. So my schedule is very easy to coordinate with myself. So what would be something that you would expect Thrasenblatt to release that didn't involve drums, for example? What would be something that you're like, oh, that makes sense that Thrasenblatt would release that? 03:20:21.760 --> 03:20:23.120 You can do some songs from the wood? 03:20:23.980 --> 03:20:25.720 I guess you've already kind of done, but I mean, you know 03:20:26.160 --> 03:20:30.900 Well, that doesn't involve drums. It sounds like it's a key thing here 03:20:31.800 --> 03:20:35.540 Well, no not well drums are just the main thing that we coordinate with Ray and I 03:20:36.600 --> 03:20:40.400 And that's like it's big scheduling thing. So like when raised free then, you know 03:20:40.400 --> 03:20:42.780 I send her a bunch of music and she you know 03:20:42.880 --> 03:20:45.600 It consumes it and then spits out these amazing drum parts 03:20:46.180 --> 03:20:49.080 Once we've scheduled the drums and then all that sort of thing 03:20:49.500 --> 03:21:18.960 I'll be honest with you I can't figure out if you're looking for suggestions or if you're getting ready to surprise us with something. No suggestions just out of curiosity I've been trying to mull it over all day like like like an acoustic thingy like you know just little EPs and that sort of thing right like I kind of I do like nobody here ever complains about stuff like that I can tell you I think that's a fine test you know what that did consider doing an album an EP of only covers. You still need drums for that. 03:21:19.100 --> 03:21:48.500 I mean, no, not if he does it the way he wants to do it. I mean, I heard an amazing acoustic version of In League With Satan by Venom. It had no drums on it. It was the greatest thing I've ever heard. So you choose right. That's a very drummy song. Yeah, yeah. I'll send this to you, George. It's badass. Yeah, well, that's cool, because I've been kind of looking for little things to kind of, you know, pepper in in between the big releases. So like, yeah, Great Brunswick, or sorry, Heavy Brunswick Forest is coming up soon. And then Thrasymlet 5, 03:21:49.439 --> 03:22:19.060 pretty soon on its heels. So pretty excited to get all that stuff out. But there's like, it'd be nice to pepper a few things in there. I love to hear musicians that I like interpret songs by other people. Not as an exclusive thing, but I mean, you know what I mean? I mean, do you need drums if you have a cojone? By the way, Joel, when you said that, I looked it up. That's when my hands were basically 03:22:19.120 --> 03:22:49.020 you from Virginia on the screen. I have seen someone play one of those before and it's very cool. It sounded familiar and I had to look and yeah. It's spelled like it sounds. I didn't look it up. J-A-J-O-N-O. Okay. Well, I know that you have done some non-thross and blotty things. Yep. That were also instrumental. Is this perhaps what you are alluding to? 03:22:49.100 --> 03:23:16.620 I'm trying to harness those things in the most palatable, but the best medium for people who are fans of Thrasenblatt to ingest. You can go in a lot of directions. I've done a mini black metal project, but with e-drums, which there's no way I would do e-drums in Thrasenblatt. 03:23:19.100 --> 03:23:49.060 But it's like a fun outlet for that sort of thing. But then I've done kind of like a little dungeon synth thing, which is a lot of fun. And I did a kind of, I don't know what you even call that. It's kind of like, what would you call that Great Northern Mist thing, George? That's kind of Tom's and it had kind of like a dulcimer kind of thing. It was kind of upbeat, but it's kind of dark. It's not synth wave or 03:23:49.100 --> 03:24:19.060 or like you say dungeon synth but it's in that league kind of yeah it's it's electronic and is the word goth unattractive here say that again is the word goth unattractive here yeah no no it's not like that really no uh closer that'd be cool closer and yeah yeah well and then the other thing that have i i'll do a little shameless pitch for it here and one 03:24:19.080 --> 03:24:48.400 One thing I've been working on recently is two of my friends and I have put together basically a platform for streaming music for tabletop RPGs. So basically I've written 108 songs in the last year for this platform. Holy hell. B-A-R-D-L-Y.io. They're there now? Yeah. And B-A-R-D-L-Y.io. And basically, yeah, it's a bunch of, it's like 106 or 108 right now. 03:24:49.060 --> 03:25:17.980 It's kind of like custom, kind of like, oh, you're exploring a forest or you're... Dude, that's rad. That's awesome, yeah. So, yeah, so it's basically for, you know, D&D is kind of the target. A couple of my buddies are quite into that, but I love the idea of making music that fits an atmosphere, and so we've kind of made 100 and some of those in the last year. Do you like the Skyrim music? Oh, I love Skyrim. Yeah. 03:25:19.080 --> 03:25:48.920 things that I listen to. Yeah. Jeremy souls work on that. Yeah. My favorite. And this would go with RPGs. Well, it is an RPG, but a hack and slash RPG. And it comes from a video game, but it's the Diablo soundtrack is the greatest fucking soundtrack. The original one. Yeah. Love that. But also I have to tell you about this meme I saw and it was just like, you know, somebody talking like lines of script, like you see in memes where it's like, I say this and this person says that and it's something funny. 03:25:49.060 --> 03:26:18.880 It was like a player. It was a dungeon master. He says, you walk into the bar and you see a mage with the glowing wings and blah, blah, blah. Then he finishes the description and the guy says, is there anybody else in the bar? He says, there's an elf named Sam Smorkly. Or excuse me, a dwarf named Sam Smorkly. Then the player says, okay, I'd like to talk to Sam Smorkly. That just made me laugh so hard, dude. 03:26:21.520 --> 03:26:47.220 Ooh, that sounds good. Awesome. I'm checking it out right now, dude. Yeah. B-A-R-D-L-Y dot I-O. I will. And yeah, if you do a, Oh, it's on YouTube. It looks like too. Yeah. We got a little, um, two minute kind of, I don't know. What would you call it? Primer market? I don't know what you call it. Kind of an intro video. This is cool. Yeah. I want you to go. This is cool. 03:26:49.100 --> 03:27:18.600 Totally something that would not have occurred to you. But now that I hear about it, it's such a great idea. Oh, yeah. Thanks. Yeah. We're pretty excited about how it's turned out. We just kind of released it about a month ago. And I didn't even know about it. I didn't tell you about Bardley, George? Get your shit together, George. Actually, I mean, it sounds familiar like you talked about it, but maybe it wasn't out yet. It might have been in the middle of production. Yeah. All right. 03:27:19.080 --> 03:27:48.920 Let her Kenny Frazo. Figure it out. Nice. All right. Let's wrap this bitch up. All right. Well, thank you, Joel, for joining us this evening. And I'm sure you'll be back again. I hope to. Especially next year when there's some heavy Brunswick Forest action going on. And Joel, when you come back, let us know what you think of the new World to Run. Yes. That'll get into my playlist by next May or something. 03:27:49.060 --> 03:27:51.800 Yeah, he'll listen to it right before he comes on again. 03:27:53.380 --> 03:27:56.880 Now, the glowing review you guys have given that, I have to listen to that basically now. 03:27:56.940 --> 03:27:57.220 Oh, yeah. 03:27:57.360 --> 03:28:00.500 I have to listen to those, you know, diatribes. 03:28:00.560 --> 03:28:03.800 We all have to listen to each other on a regular basis, but they really got me with that one. 03:28:03.800 --> 03:28:05.400 You guys are really good to put that in. 03:28:05.680 --> 03:28:05.840 Definitely. 03:28:07.420 --> 03:28:07.920 All right, dudes. 03:28:08.220 --> 03:28:09.680 Yeah, great meeting you, Matt, as well. 03:28:10.120 --> 03:28:10.800 You as well, Joel. 03:28:11.400 --> 03:28:11.820 All right. 03:28:11.960 --> 03:28:12.180 Cheers. 03:28:12.680 --> 03:28:13.680 Well, thank you for coming on. 03:28:14.460 --> 03:28:15.440 Yeah, thank you so much. 03:28:16.180 --> 03:28:16.240 Yeah. 03:28:16.800 --> 03:28:17.780 Thanks again for having me, guys. 03:28:17.920 --> 03:28:18.900 It's always a pleasure. 03:28:18.980 --> 03:28:39.620 Sure. It was a lot of fun. You're a great group of dudes and you're fun to take bites out of. Hell yeah. All right. I expect our next episode will be the year-end episode. So if you hear from us before then, well, awesome. But probably not until then. So until next time, we remain the Metalheads Podcast. 03:29:28.540 --> 03:29:36.100 Hello, this is the callback that was requested. If anyone is available, please pick up and press any key on the telephone touchpad. 03:29:49.000 --> 03:29:49.620 For as long as I could.